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Little White Lies (2)

Episode Number: 177    Season Num: 8    First Aired: Monday May 17, 2004    Prod Code: 6200608177
In the eight season finale, The Camden chaos continues with Matt (guest star Barry Watson), who is trying to salvage his marriage, questioning whether he still has feelings for his ex-girlfriend Heather (guest star Andrea Ferrell). Meanwhile, Simon's (guest star David Gallagher) return to Glenoak creates conflicted feelings for his ex-girlfriend Cecilia, who is torn between her feelings for Simon and her current boyfriend Martin. Also, Ruthie's foreign exchange student friend Maria (guest star Samantha Sandoval), appears to be making the moves on Ruthie's boyfriend Peter; and grandparents-to-be Eric and Annie hop a plane for New York, despite Mary's (Jessica Biel, who does not appear in the episode) repeated pleas for her family to stay away during labor.

Cast and Crew

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Writer: Sue Tenney
Director: Joel J. Feigenbaum
Star: Tyler Hoechlin (Martin Brewer),  Nikolas Brino (David Camden),  Lorenzo Brino (Sam Camden),  Jeremy London (Dr. Chandler Hampton),  Ashlee Simpson-Wentz (Cecilia Smith),  George Stults (Kevin Kinkirk (recurring Season 6)),  Scotty Leavenworth (Peter Petrowski (recurring Season 7)),  Rachel Blanchard (Roxanne Richardson),  David Gallagher (Simon Camden),  Catherine Hicks (Annie Camden),  Mackenzie Rosman (Ruthie Camden),  Beverley Mitchell (Lucy Camden-Kinkirk),  Barry Watson (Dr. Matt Camden),  Stephen Collins (Reverend Eric Camden)
Recurring Role: Brad Maule (George Smith),  Bryan Callen (George "Vic" Vickery),  Shannon Kenny (Paris Petrowski),  Sarah Danielle Madison (Sarah Camden),  Andrea Ferrell (Heather Cain),  David Gallagher (Simon Camden),  Barry Watson (Matt Camden),  Kyle Searles (Mac),  Carlos Ponce (Carlos Rivera),  James Henrie (Jeffery Turner)
Guest Star: Alyssa, Madison and Rachel Miller (Babies in nursery (uncredited)),  Matthew Kaminsky (Sean),  Kelly Lynn Warren (Nurse),  Ashlee Gillespie (Pam),  Samantha Sandoval (Maria),  Leighton Meester (Kendall)

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Mary (Jessica Biel) is the first of the Camden kids to have a child. (edit)
By the end of this episode, Rachel Blanchard (Roxanne) and Jeremy London (Chandler) are written off of the show. This is also the last episode to feature Cecilia (Ashlee Simpson) and Peter (Scotty Leavenworth) as both of them are written off in the season 9 premiere. (edit)
On its original airing this episode scored 6.86 million viewers. (edit)
Eric and Annie's Grandson's name is Charles Miguel Rivera after Carlos' & Mary's Grandfathers who've passed away. Charles was the name of Annie's late father. (edit)
We learn in this episode that Lucy (Beverley Mitchell) is pregnant. (edit)

Quotes

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Eric to Carlos: "So, have you figured out a name for this little guy?"

Carlos to Eric: "Charles Miguel. After both our respective grandfathers who have passed away." (edit)
Vic to Camden kids: "So...is there any news? Did she have the baby? Did they name it after me?"

Ruthie to Vic: "Mom and Dad aren't there yet, so I hope she didn't have it yet. And besides, I don't think they'd name it Vic Jr." (edit)
Mac to Pam: "So what do you want first- begging or gravelling?

Pam to Mac: "Whats the difference?"

Mac to Pam: "Begging is pleading and gravelling requires a lot of kneeling."(Pam laughs) (edit)
Lucy to Kevin: "I want us to have a baby"

Kevin to Lucy: "Luce, we've talked about this before but we backed off but if this is real then no turning back."

Lucy to Kevin: "No turning back." (edit)
Lucy to Kevin: "I'm going to church with my family."

Kevin to Lucy: "Fine. I'll go by myself."

Lucy to Kevin: "And I think I am going to spend the afternoon with my family."

Kevin to Lucy: "Fine."

Lucy to Kevin: "You know...You're not aloud to use fine. Fine is my word not yours. I do the fine thing not you. Got it?"

Kevin to Lucy: "FINE!" (edit)

Trivia

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After Lucy told Kevin they were going to have a baby, and he fainted, the camera angle has it as though he is smiling, which is a little odd. (edit)
Nitpick: It does not seem logical that with Eric and Annie on the plane to New York, that everyone still meets up at their house to have dinner. Plus, nearly half of the people in the house were not even family members. (edit)
In the scene where Annie and Eric first see their grandchild through the hospital window, we see other babies in other baby beds. When Carlos brings out baby Charles Migeul, if you look through the window, all of the other babies are gone. (edit)
Reply to goof about Eric/Annie: Maybe Vic and Paris had no approval from Eric and Annie to take the twins, Ruthie to their house. Plus maybe Kevin/Lucy were going to join them, Martin or even Matt and Simon.. (edit)

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"Well written"
Amazing!
Continue » Posted Jun 25, 2007 4:25 pm PST
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"Exactly why I watch this series"
I was so happy that Lucy is expecting in this espidoe cause she will be a great and wonderful mother and she is already a wonderful and great wife.
Continue » Posted Jun 11, 2006 3:50 pm PST

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What boggled me a lot about this finale is the amount (or lack there of) of time these two episodes had on the Camden's, despite the return or Simon and Matt---who were seen very little in these episodes.
Continue » Posted Jun 4, 2005 1:51 pm PST
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