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| 1. Why do technomages try to appear like wizards? | 02/26/2007 1:41pm | ||||||||||||
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My huge complaint and one i held against the technomage B5 episode ,is the whole idea of a technomage in the first place.
"They use technology to create the appearance of magic" okay,but why? why would a rational person ever do that unless he was on stage in vegas. If everyone knows they just use machines and are not really magical it seems even more pointless. It seemed like an attempt to build up the fanstasy/mythos elements of B5 and of course some more JRR Tolkien references but it was ill considered and utterly pointless please tell me the point of them i love the show but i never got the technomage thing at all |
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| 2. Re: Why do technomages try to appear like wizards? | 02/27/2007 12:58pm | ||||||||||||
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tell me im wrong tell me why they were great
I feel like im the only one who doesnt get it |
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| 3. Re: Why do technomages try to appear like wizards? | 02/27/2007 8:33pm | ||||||||||||
They like to remain mysterious. What you said above is just what Elric told Sheridan. He didn't tell Sheridan everything about the Technomages and their history. Part of the Technomage Code is SECRECY. He told Sheridan only enough to enlist his aid. Why the Technomages were there and why they were leaving and where they were going is not explained anywhere but in the Babylon 5 novels. We only got a tidbit in Babylon 5 and slightly more in Crusade. We would have gotten more in Crusade if it hadn't got cancelled after 13 episodes.
Everyone does not know that they just use machines. Also, they don't just use machines. Some people think they know things about the Technomages, but what they actually know is very little. There are hierarchies in the Technomage order, and a vast majority of the Technomages themselves don't even know the true source of their tech (their biotech implants they receive upon initiation as a full mage). In fact, very few outside the ruling council ("The Circle") knows the source of their tech or the purpose intended for them by the creators of their tech.
You don't have the big picture. All this is background is given in the novel trilogy "The Passing of the Techno-mages." Also, the novel "The Shadow Within" is a prequel for "The Passing of the Techno-mages." Here are the essential B5 Novels: Title: Book #7 The Shadow Within Title: Book #9 To Dream in the City of Sorrows THE PSI CORPS TRILOGY: Title: Dark Genesis - The Birth of the Psi Corps Title: Deadly Relations - Bester Ascendant Title: Final Reckoning - The Fate of Bester THE CENTAURI TRILOGY: Title: Legions of Fire - Book I - The Long Night of Centauri Prime Title: Legions of Fire - Book II - Armies of Light and Dark Title: Legions of Fire - Book III - Out of the Darkness THE TECHNOMAGE TRILOGY: Title: The Passing of the Techno-Mages - Book I - Casting Shadows Title: The Passing of the Techno-Mages - Book II - Summoning Light Title: The Passing of the Techno-Mages - Book III - Invoking Darkness You have a lot of good stuff ahead of you in the novels. Personally, I found the Technomage trilogy hard to put down. There are a couple of mistakes here and there in the novels. They're not 100% perfect, but the ones above are considered canon additions to the B5 universe. |
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| 4. Re: Why do technomages try to appear like wizards? | 02/28/2007 4:39am | ||||||||||||
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they dont know the power or origin of there own tech?
now that does intrigue me. How long has the order been around |
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| 5. Re: Why do technomages try to appear like wizards? | 02/28/2007 5:51pm | ||||||||||||
The five members of the ruling council, The Circle, know. They administer who gets initiated as a full mage (and therefore receives the full tech implants). Almost all members outside The Circle do not know. Those few outside The Circle who know, are sworn to secrecy on this matter, and the penalty for disobedience is flaying (surgical removal of their tech), which if it's done not immediately after initiation as a full mage, means certain death. It's a very grisly way to go. The tech permeates a mage's entire body, like a secondary nervous system, and then some. The tech is a living entity.
At least a thousand years. Read the books. There's a ton of good stuff in there. You have no idea how complex, interesting and powerful the Technomages are. Only two mages have known the true extent of their capabilities. Galen was the first, and the other is dead. I've read the Technomage trilogy twice, and all of the other books once. My next re-read is going to be the Centauri trilogy. Galen, Kane, Gwynne and Finian (all Technomages) are in that trilogy as well. BTW, Elric (Babylon 5 - The Geometry of Shadows) and Alwyn (Crusade - The Long Road) are in the Technomage trilogy, which is essentially the story of Galen. The Technomage trilogy weaves all through B5 episodes The Geometry of Shadows, Interludes and Examinations, and Z'ha'dum. It also intersects Gideon's and Galen's flashbacks in Crusade - The Path of Sorrows, and Gideon's flashbacks in a few of the other Crusade episodes. Also, in Crusade - Racing the Night, when Galen says he has no surviving enemies, at all, he's right. |
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| 6. Re: Why do technomages try to appear like wizards? | 03/13/2007 11:57am | ||||||||||||
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the mystery
surronding the technomages are many I realase i already asked this but why do they pretend to be wizards? Is it part of the mystery I think my major problem is that im supposed to think of them as a cool and intriging bunch when they just bug me my predjudice i think |
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| 8. Re: Why do technomages try to appear like wizards? | 03/19/2007 5:20pm | ||||||||||||
Who says they're pretending? That's part of what they are. Any technology that's sufficiently advanced, is indistinguishable from magic, and they like to be mysterious. They don't want to be completely understood. They are superior beings, and like being seen as such. Not all who join the technomages are seeking the same thing. Some are seeking power and wealth. Some seek to do good, to make things better in the galaxy. Some are healers. Some just like provoking awe and wonder in others, like magicians. "The Passing of the Techno-mages - Casting Shadows" page 11.... The Technomage Code (the seven principles of technomancy): Solidarity Secrecy Mystery Magic Science Knowledge Good "Do not try the patience of wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger." - Elric, "The Geometry of Shadows" "The Passing of the Techno-mages - Casting Shadows" page 5 ( November 2258 ).... "Long had Kosh watched them, the three hundred and thirty and three such assemblages (i.e. 1000 years). He had watched as the fabulists (i.e. what the Vorlons call the technomages) gradually transformed from anarchy to order." The Code is the way the Technomages imposed order upon themselves. To understand the Technomages, you need to read "The Passing of the Techno-mages" "Casting Shadows" "Summoning Light" "Invoking Darkness" |
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| 9. Re: Why do technomages try to appear like wizards? | 04/27/2008 10:43am | ||||||||||||
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The only ones (for me) that it took a little dedication to get through were Book #9 To Dream in the City of Sorrows and Dark Genesis - The Birth of the Psi Corps. However, all of these books are worth reading and add a lot to the B5 universe.
