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    havoc2

    1. 11/16/2008 3:19pm
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    There's been alot of talk about Mia lately with her playing a crucial role in every single episode so far with the exception of 806. So i thought i would make an official thread about her. So what does everyone think about all the screentime she's been getting lately? I'm actually not that annoyed by it. Yes, Mia is annoying, but i kind of like where they're taking her character and i think it could be interesting. I really hope they follow up with the whole tom thing and i'm looking forward to the episode where everyone finds out about her and Tom (This is all just speculation, not a spoiler)
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    black_mage_x

    2. 11/16/2008 3:21pm
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    It's hard to say as without Paige, there's no likeable females on the show anymore. But at least it's better then last season with Darcy, or the six seasons before that with Emma.
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    Ancax

    3. 11/16/2008 3:26pm
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    You saw what happened with Manny, she made her istakes, had her drama, and she cam out stonger from it. You saw this during season 6 and 7 mainly, with warnign Darcy not to take anymore sexy pictures, with her ditching Craig the minute he started to get pissy, sticking up for Mia when Darcy was being judgmental, supporting Darcy though her rape, kepping it a secret, forgiving Peter, chastising Liberty for doing the exact same thing she did in Season 3. Also suppoting Emma during her illness was a sign of her supportiveness and maturity.

    She is the person a Degrassi character should go to for advice since she has been though hell.

    The thing with Mia is that they are already trying to make her the advice queen of the school, even though she is still making terrible risky mistakes. If they stopped her from trying to be the knowlegeable one, her character could be great, but since they decide to make her character so uneven, it comes off as kinda difficult to watch sometimes, even though she does have entertaining storylines.

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    pocksuppet

    4. 11/16/2008 4:00pm
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    I'm not too crazy about it. Mia's rubbed me the wrong way ever since her Mary Sueish S6 character description came out. Plus, couldn't they have picked one of the better actresses to be the new it girl?
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    goldentrophy25

    5. 11/16/2008 5:16pm
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    Her acting is terrible. Her, Sav, Anya, and Claire's mom make me cringe whenever I see them on the screen.
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    degrassi_lover

    6. 11/16/2008 5:22pm
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    I'm with you Havoc, Mia's character is indeed annoying - however her storyline seems promising. I was very impressed with Uptown Girl. I'm glad they actually went there and didn't bullsh*t.
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    havoc2

    7. 11/16/2008 5:34pm
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    Ancax wrote:

    The thing with Mia is that they are already trying to make her the advice queen of the school, even though she is still making terrible risky mistakes. If they stopped her from trying to be the knowlegeable one, her character could be great, but since they decide to make her character so uneven, it comes off as kinda difficult to watch sometimes, even though she does have entertaining storylines.

    Mia has always been that way though. As evident in JG, Yes what she did in UG was slutty but just because she did that you can't expect her old character traits to just disappear..

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    iBadBoy

    8. 11/16/2008 10:27pm
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    I agree with Havoc. Mia & Holly J. are the only two new girls that I find the most entertaining. Mia is kind of like Manny in a way with her mistakes, but she's only trying to be a normal teenage girl, and with a child yes the kid comes first, but at the same time she's trying to juggle that and still be a high school student. The Tom Blake thing/going to that party with Lucas were the only two things I think she did that were bad ideas, but she's not half as dumb as some of the girls on the show. I mean it's not like she's trying to convert to being Muslim or something..On top of the Nina Dobrev is gorgeous and a talented actress. I'm not going to lie I didn't care too much for her character in season 6, but once season 7 started rolling, I began to like her. Watch Alli will be the next "it girl"
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    9. 11/17/2008 1:30am
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    I liked Mia in season 6 and 7 - I thought her story was well written. She was more of a plot device in season 6, but it was a good way to introduce her - and I thought season 7 handled the teen prenancy angle well (though I could've done without the HE B plot). Unfortunately, after ESW there's really not many more avenues you could take her character, unless she were to continue making the same mistakes. So the writers had to do something to make her character more fitting to other storylines. Enter season 8.

    Can I just reinforce what others have said: Mia has been unbearable this season! Her character makes no sense! The premise for UG was completely ridiculous - mother looks after the baby (how convenient) and she becomes a model... She has a kid!!! Holly J and Darcy, while mean, were right - Isabella should be her top priority!

    I think perhaps, a better direction to take Mia's character would be to give her Holly J's upcoming financial crisis plot. Maybe Mia's mother could lose her job, or get a salary reduction, so Mia has to take responsibility for day care fees or something. There, that could be Mia's A plot of the season! Then she could pop up as the struggling single teenage mum throughout the season. And maybe she starts to fail at school or something as a result of her (essentially) three jobs (baby, work, school).

    I actually suspect part of the reason for this ridiculous mum helping out angle is just a way of getting Isabella off set for a while, so that when we see her again she'll have grown and can be played by a different actress. The producers can't have failed to notice how terrible the current Isabella is. I know she's just a kid but still - I've seen decent actors of that age on other shows... Isabella isn't even trying! She's completely wooden! Like mother, like daughter, I suppose...

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    DepthofField25

    10. 11/17/2008 2:39am
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    Paulie_99 wrote:

    I liked Mia in season 6 and 7 - I thought her story was well written. She was more of a plot device in season 6, but it was a good way to introduce her - and I thought season 7 handled the teen prenancy angle well (though I could've done without the HE B plot). Unfortunately, after ESW there's really not many more avenues you could take her character, unless she were to continue making the same mistakes. So the writers had to do something to make her character more fitting to other storylines. Enter season 8.

    I 100% agree with this. Now that two classes have already graduated high school, they need the newer characters to fill their roles. So characters that were initially fairly unique have now been completely transformed in order to make for a more well-rounded cast. Mia, for example, went from teen mom to Holly J's archrival in the struggle for popularity sort of like how Manny began to threaten Paige's "crown" in season 4 based on the former's natural ability to draw others into her circle. I mean, ultimately Mia is still the same at her core (e.g. being a whore) but abandoning the teen mom angle to make Mia the face of season 8 is retarded. With all these new character additions, they could have added someone more suitable to play the Queen Bee threat and allow Mia to continue struggling as teen mom that isn't concerned with popularity, but is rather focused on constant male attention for some deeper, darker reason. This would completely distinguish her storyline from Manny's in that Manny was just boy crazy and most often only sought attention from guys she liked. In my alternate world, however, Mia would just be sleeping with different guys left and right, essentially earning the title of "school slut" this time. To me this would provide for far better development while illustrating that their new "lead" isn't some sort of Mary Sue.

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    11. 11/17/2008 10:14am
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    i feel like im one of the few people who actually like mia. and im enjoying where they're taking her character. mainly because she reminds me of just about every teen mom i knew in high school...and in my high school there were A LOT of them. promiscuous, boy crazy, irresponsible, abandoning parental duties...not saying all teenage moms are like this, but the majority still want to be young and aren't ready to fulfill their parental duties. making mia a whore also makes her more interesting. and from what i've seen, mia's never been a good mother. people keep commenting on how she use to be a good mother and then suddenly turned irresponsible. nothing she's ever done has made be believe she's a semi-decent parent. nothing in season 6 and certainly nothing in season 7, like when she took her toddler to a high school house party. sure, she cares about isabelle and im sure she loves her with all her heart. i've never questioned that. but she's never been painted as this responsible, hardworking parent. and i like that. i actually think they're doing a good job with mia. she's one of the few well written newbies on the show (yes, i still consider her a newbie even though she's been around for 2 seasons).
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    black_mage_x

    12. 11/17/2008 1:10pm
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    CiCi0788 wrote:
    i feel like im one of the few people who actually like mia. and im enjoying where they're taking her character. mainly because she reminds me of just about every teen mom i knew in high school...and in my high school there were A LOT of them. promiscuous, boy crazy, irresponsible, abandoning parental duties...not saying all teenage moms are like this, but the majority still want to be young and aren't ready to fulfill their parental duties. making mia a whore also makes her more interesting. and from what i've seen, mia's never been a good mother. people keep commenting on how she use to be a good mother and then suddenly turned irresponsible. nothing she's ever done has made be believe she's a semi-decent parent. nothing in season 6 and certainly nothing in season 7, like when she took her toddler to a high school house party. sure, she cares about isabelle and im sure she loves her with all her heart. i've never questioned that. but she's never been painted as this responsible, hardworking parent. and i like that. i actually think they're doing a good job with mia. she's one of the few well written newbies on the show (yes, i still consider her a newbie even though she's been around for 2 seasons).




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    13. 11/17/2008 1:34pm
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    Paulie_99 wrote:

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    Can I just reinforce what others have said: Mia has been unbearable this season! Her character makes no sense! The premise for UG was completely ridiculous - mother looks after the baby (how convenient) and she becomes a model... She has a kid!!! Holly J and Darcy, while mean, were right - Isabella should be her top priority!

    Yes, Her abandoning her parental duties and becoming a model and cheerleader etc, is ridiculous, but that's the point of the storyline, It's suppose to be ridiculous. Mia is so desperate to becoming a regular teenager that's she willing to do all these drastic things, Including abadoning her parental duties. Cici hit it right on the Nail, It was never evident that Isabella is Mia's top priority. So i think all the things that the writters have her doing has been completely in character and consistent. What i liked about UG was the fact that Mia wasn't portrayed in a positive light. She isn't meant to be seen as this wonderful person and mother. They portrayed her for what she really is (A dumb whore) While she has become unbearable as a person, her storyline has been written nicely and makes perfect sense.

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    14. 11/17/2008 2:21pm
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    havoc2 wrote:
    Paulie_99 wrote:

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    Can I just reinforce what others have said: Mia has been unbearable this season! Her character makes no sense! The premise for UG was completely ridiculous - mother looks after the baby (how convenient) and she becomes a model... She has a kid!!! Holly J and Darcy, while mean, were right - Isabella should be her top priority!

    Yes, Her abandoning her parental duties and becoming a model and cheerleader etc, is ridiculous, but that's the point of the storyline, It's suppose to be ridiculous. Mia is so desperate to becoming a regular teenager that's she willing to do all these drastic things, Including abadoning her parental duties. Cici hit it right on the Nail, It was never evident that Isabella is Mia's top priority. So i think all the things that the writters have her doing has been completely in character and consistent. What i liked about UG was the fact that Mia wasn't portrayed in a positive light. She isn't meant to be seen as this wonderful person and mother. They portrayed her for what she really is (A dumb whore) While she has become unbearable as a person, her storyline has been written nicely and makes perfect sense.

    Exactly. And while everyone keeps trying to compare Mia to Manny, (although I love Manny) Mia actually kept her baby, so this discussion about her not really caring about Isabella is not true. I mean all high schoolers want to be accepted, and when you hang around people like Holly J, and Chantay, you tend to get a little carried away with high school gossip and want so bad to be apart of the "in crowd." Most of you act like just because Mia has Isabella she can't TRY to have somewhat of a normal life. I mean I could see if no one was willing to take care of Isabella while she trying to do her own thing, but her mom is not complaining about it. Mia knows that Izzy is her top priority, she is just trying to juggle both a social life and motherhood at the same time and I don't see any shame or blame in that. Put yourself in her shoes, would you want to be stuck in the house 24/7 taking care of a child once it's old enough to walk and talk? Thats what babysitters are for..they get paid for it. I don't think the model plot was necessarily positive, but she should of gotten an after school job or something.

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    DepthofField25

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    ^^I'm sorry, but I have to lol at this. It's not wrong for Mia to want to have a social life, but look how much she's taking on. The modeling gig, cheerleading, student council (right?). Puhlease... And sure Mia's mom agreed to take care of the kid for the semester but that doesn't mean she should take advantage of the situation and pack in as much extracurricular sh*t as she can. Does she not realize her mom has bills to pay and mouths to feed? It's got to be really hard on her, especially since Mia's dad isn't around to pick up half of the weight.

    Oh, and saying that she has no simarilities to Manny just because she decided to keep the kid is erroneous. You can't just stop there; there are so many other factors that you have to consider.

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    16. 11/18/2008 5:03am
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    Yeah Badboy, I disagree with you too. I was defending Mia as a character, Not as a person.
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    black_mage_x

    17. 11/18/2008 7:03am
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    Being a normal teenager flies out the window when you have kids. There's plenty of adults that would like to be out partying or at least get a full nights sleep but they can't.

    And Mia isn't innocent anyway. No one told her to spread her legs for half the guys at Lakehurst.
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    18. 11/18/2008 12:58pm
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    black_mage_x wrote:
    No one told her to spread her legs for half the guys at Lakehurst.

    more like half the guys in Canada.
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    19. 11/18/2008 1:49pm
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    black_mage_x wrote:
    CiCi0788 wrote:
    i feel like im one of the few people who actually like mia. and im enjoying where they're taking her character. mainly because she reminds me of just about every teen mom i knew in high school...and in my high school there were A LOT of them. promiscuous, boy crazy, irresponsible, abandoning parental duties...not saying all teenage moms are like this, but the majority still want to be young and aren't ready to fulfill their parental duties. making mia a whore also makes her more interesting. and from what i've seen, mia's never been a good mother. people keep commenting on how she use to be a good mother and then suddenly turned irresponsible. nothing she's ever done has made be believe she's a semi-decent parent. nothing in season 6 and certainly nothing in season 7, like when she took her toddler to a high school house party. sure, she cares about isabelle and im sure she loves her with all her heart. i've never questioned that. but she's never been painted as this responsible, hardworking parent. and i like that. i actually think they're doing a good job with mia. she's one of the few well written newbies on the show (yes, i still consider her a newbie even though she's been around for 2 seasons).



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    who are you again?

    anyway, mia may not be a good person. no one is arguing that she is. but like havoc and others have said, she is a good CHARACTER. love her or hate her, she is well written, especially in comparison to the rest of the newbies. and her desperation to fit in may be pathetic and yeah her actions in UG could be considered ridiculous and over the top, but i wasn't surprised by them at all. her behavior in UG is exactly what i would expect from someone like her. to be honest, nothing she could do in relations to sex or bad parenting would EVER surprise me. they've kept her character in tact since she was first introduced in season 6 when we found out she had a baby at 13, which means she was pregnant at 12? she's never veered off into weird, OOC behavior. they've never painted her as this picture perfect mom who's hardworking and responsible. the writers have been consistent with her character and she's really entertaining to watch. the only problem i have with mia is nina as an actress, but again, that has nothing to do with the character. thats just bad casting on the show's part.

    to me, what would ruin her character and make her UNREALISTIC is if she became some saint who stopped obsessing over boys, popularity, and fitting in and spent all her time focused on her child. because i honestly don't know any teen mom like this. not saying they don't exist, but they're few and far between. and like i said before, mia being a whore is realllly entertaining and makes her character more fun to watch.
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    20. 11/18/2008 2:22pm
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    DepthofField25 wrote:

    ^^I'm sorry, but I have to lol at this. It's not wrong for Mia to want to have a social life, but look how much she's taking on. The modeling gig, cheerleading, student council (right?). Puhlease... And sure Mia's mom agreed to take care of the kid for the semester but that doesn't mean she should take advantage of the situation and pack in as much extracurricular sh*t as she can. Does she not realize her mom has bills to pay and mouths to feed? It's got to be really hard on her, especially since Mia's dad isn't around to pick up half of the weight.

    Oh, and saying that she has no simarilities to Manny just because she decided to keep the kid is erroneous. You can't just stop there; there are so many other factors that you have to consider.

    At the beginning of Uptown Girl what did her mom tell her. "I'm going to be working from home now, and Isabella is starting pre-kindergarten. I'm going to help you, only on one condition, you make this your year." That alone says so much w/o needing to even go any further. You guys act like Mia is leaving the country and won't see Isabella for like two months or something. All she's doing is trying to better herself and you get paid as a model, so she's actually helping her mom out. & if her mom didn't want her to do it, she would of just said "no" Ok, heres a question I have for you, what about what she is doing is so wrong to Isabella? I'm going to need an example here. Besides the fact that she's a teenage mom, and should be "putting her child first" which really has nothing to do w/ anything, because Isabella is being taken care of. & as for student council, Holly J is the president not Mia. So she's actually only modeling and on spirit squad.

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