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- lol im sure theres a more realistic one but ive watched so many series i range from Lost to dawsons creek to two and a half men. everwood is so realistic, i know theres a better example but the ephram madison scene when they first try to have sex, lol that was a very realistic moment, lol, but more than that nothing felt cheap, like the oc whichi love seemed a little fake, oth which i starting to hate is so unrealistic, i mean from the kids being a pop superstar, clothes designer, point shaver, label maker, all when there in highschool what ever. lol dawsons would come a close second in realism i thinkYou must be registered and logged in to post a message.
- I really loved Everwood and agree, it was definitely very realistic. I think it had its moments, where you went "yeah right, like that would happen". But those moments were few and far between. The only other show that is in the same caliber as Everwood when it comes to being realistic is October Road. Which may be why I love it so much. I like the realistic dramas based on characters and relationships.You must be registered and logged in to post a message.
- I think that this is particularly true of Everwood's earlier material, where the town itself and the importance or influence of that kind of culture was a more significant element in the writing. As time went on, there was a balance that was being lost in Everwood, of no longer a drama that was balanced out between the three generations of characters (or four, if we separate Delia), but was increasingly sliding toward the "sexy teens" emphasis of the WB network. Everwood hadn't fallen entirely into the trap of the only drama being "who is going to end up with whom?" as they all trade partners, but when I hear of plans to put Ephraim and Hannah together for the unproduced fifth season, I have to wonder about the writing losing that realism we loved and the show slipping into the WB formula.You must be registered and logged in to post a message.
I agree that the emphasis of the show started to shift to the teens as the season's progressed. I think Treat Williams alluded to that after the cancellation. Because the writing and acting were so good though, it never seemed too soapy. It was a series that was at its simplest, forced sentimentality, but it just never seemed forced. Even when a plot point could be seen coming a mile away (Kyle the gay piano student for example) it was so well written and acted that it never seemed cliche. Andy's affair with the stroke victim's wife was a great example, all his friends were telling him it was wrong and I'm sure many other fans (besides myself) were quietly pleading at the TV for him to stop---yet it was the realism of his flawed human nature that would not allow him to end the relationship. That arc was so well constructed that when it finally ended nothing about it seemed contrived at all. That to me is what separated it from all the other family dramas on TV. I agree that pairing up Ephraim and Hannah in season 5 would come close to crossing the line but I bet it would have been written so well we'd have hardly noticed. And I would have given a lot to see it--even if it wasn't written that well. Everwood was a long way from jumping the shark when the idiots cancelled it.
You must be registered and logged in to post a message.Nicely said! I think you qualify what I was saying above quite sensibly. I had fears when the character of Irv had died – not that that was unrealistic, given the character's health history – that we were seeing the "grandparent" generation being eased out of the focus, to increase the teen screen time, which I thought would have disrupted the balance that was one of the most remarkable things of the show: the notion that all the stages of life are fulfilling, interesting, and drama-worthy.
An example. Even just the loss of Irv's voice-overs made me wonder whether the show was losing the conceit that perhaps all the story we were seeing was, in a sense, being told to us through the eyes of a story-teller. (Which, of course, was perfectly true, even if it was through a team of story tellers.) I didn't think those voice-overs were a convention that was unimportant to the show as it was conceived. Similiarly, the (mostly) Meredith Grey voiceovers in Grey's Anatomy are an important part to the story of that very flawed character coming to have some insight and control over her life. But that in Everwood it was an older story-teller, one whose story, mixed in with all these others', was still ongoing and important was significant to me, even though I was younger than both the Irv and Andy generations. I think not seeing their ages and lives devalued was an important aspect as to why multi-generation families were enthusiastic about watching Everwood together. So I'll agree with you that even a slightly wayward Everwood would still be better than most any other television offered.
You must be registered and logged in to post a message.- From what I gathered from the audio comments that came with the season 1 DVD, Irv's voiceovers were a matter of great consternation to the writers. Some wanted them to continue in every episode, others thought they weren't necessary at all. I agree that the story telling aspect so well realized in the pilot was a great part of the narrative, but I think the writers felt that once Irv's book was published they had achieved closure with the whole issue as a plot device. I also agree that killing off Irv made it clear that the emphasis was to go to the younger cast members. Debra Moony's part was becoming more marginalized as well. I do remember posting after the series finale that I would liked to have heard Irv's voice one last time: over the mournful violin as the camera pulled away from the ferris wheel.Edited on 08/16/2008 8:44amYou must be registered and logged in to post a message.
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