Orphan Black's Creators Discuss That Surprise Twist, Being a Progressive Series, and More

By Kaitlin Thomas

Jun 08, 2014

When John Fawcett and Graeme Manson first set out to make Orphan Black, all they had was an idea Fawcett has originally pitched in 2001: A woman bears witness as someone who looks exactly like her jumps in front of a train. They didn't know she would be a clone, they didn't have anything planned beyond that simple premise. But the idea would eventually become the exhilarating opening scene of a series that has transfixed fans all over the world since its premiere in March 2013. 

What they've created over the course of nearly two seasons has evolved into an addictive mystery thriller that's progressive in its exploration of subjects and topics that most other TV shows tend to shy away from. In any given episode, Orphan Black might tackle feminism, the question of what it means to be human, the consequences of scientific experimentation, and the ongoing battle between science and religion—and it does so with a near-perfect balance of humor and drama. In this week's episode, "Variable and Full of Perturbation," the show introduced yet another clone—the eighth we've met since the series premiered—but this one is different. This one's name is Tony, and he's a transgender male.

Orphan Black already features a lesbian relationship and a gay character, so it should come as no surprise that a character like Tony was a long time coming for the series, which devotes a lot of screen time to issues of identity and regularly looks at the clones' similarities and differences. During a panel and screening of the episode at the ATX Television Festival on Saturday, Manson said that the idea for Tony came up near the end of Season 1, and was something they'd been wanting to do for a long time. The creative team knew they wanted to introduce a new clone in Season 2—something that both they and series star Tatiana Maslany take very seriously, because they want to really know their characters—and both Fawcett and Manson, as well as Maslany, all came to the same idea separately. "It was a very long process of creating and discovering that character," said Manson. 

Bringing Tony to life involved a lot of research. "It was a fun process, because it was super top secret," Fawcett said, noting there were a lot of secret calls to the makeup trailer on his days off to see the transformation. "[Tatiana] kind of embraced that fearlessly."

Maslany, who has a lot of creative input when it comes to the characters she plays, was equally fearless when it came to the prospect of kissing her co-star, Jordan Gavaris, who plays Sarah Manning's foster brother Felix. Manson said the actors deserve all the credit for that scene, which played both awkward and squeamish. "It's definitely a little bit twisted," noted Manson, "but they were dying to do that." And although it might've played differently for viewers, Manson laughed about the scene because it was about more than just the kiss. "For us, it's so strange. It's not just that kiss with all its many layers going on. For us it's like, 'Jordan and Tat! They're kissing!'" Gavaris was "really excited, but terrified," Fawcett recalled. "We were all excited on that day when we knew it was all going to do down. And it turned out pretty good."

But underneath Orphan Black's humor—and you needn't look further than last week's "Knowledge of Causes, and Secret Motion of Things" to see an excellent example of how the show balances the comedy and the drama—there's a show that's unafraid to tackle subjects that no one else will. "We certainly didn't set out to make a feminist show," Manson said. "The themes of the show and the embodiment of Tatiana with all these characters made the theme." 

So why don't more more shows take those risks? And how does Orphan Black make everything look so effortless and natural? "We realized the power of the themes that we were playing with," said Manson, "but to land them is difficult and to commit to them takes really good writers. And it takes your full attention."

Fawcett also added that they wanted to make characters that were believable. "Amidst all the absurdity of the premise, I think what was important for us was to create characters and situations that people can identify with and believe in. ... To me, all these weird, absurd premises go down so much better when you can believe in the characters and when you can invest in the characters. And that was just a really important aspect. We didn't want to make a cartoon."


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  • ZoranJovanovi Jun 09, 2014

    I read somewhere, recently, that Orpan Black will some day collpse under its own weight. I didn't believe it at first but this episode is a proof for that.

    This show has to stop for a moment and resolve some storylines before starting new ones.

    That was the thing that made it good in season 1.

  • Aesandil Jun 09, 2014

    If only it's played out as more than just a surprise twist for the sake of having a surprise twist. A Sarah-esque character with a beard getting an excuse to kiss Felix is what I mostly took away from this "grand" revelation.

  • kou_shun_u Jun 18, 2014

    Exactly. It was like more of a fan fantasy thing. I do hope for the sake of plot, that Tony gets pulled back in, so he wasn't just a throwaway.

  • mrbofus Jun 08, 2014

    "Orphan Black's Creators Discuss That Surprise Twist"

    Maybe I missed it; what twist do you talk about in this article? The article discusses Tony at length. I assume the twist you're referencing is the thing that happens with the two guys in the car, but why not talk about that if that's what the first part of your article headline is?

  • tnetennba Jun 08, 2014

    The "twist" they had in mind is of course that the new clone is a transgender male. "Twist" may not be a good word for it, but it's was clearly the thing that set this episode apart from all the others.

  • kou_shun_u Jun 18, 2014

    The clone wasn't that suprising, i've been expecting it.
    If anything the suprise was that the introduced a clone and then just let him skidattle.

  • ElisaDiaz Jun 08, 2014

    I totally think that Felix was the focus on that kiss scene. We have seen Maslany doing a lot of stuff already in this show, but this was one serious piece for Felix! And Gavaris was brilliant.

  • Ian281099 Jun 08, 2014

    There's a major spoiler when you go to the community's page, you should really change the introductionary paragraph and not ruin it for anybody else.