What's My Line?

EPISODE #846

Season 18, Ep 21, Aired 1/22/67
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  • Episode Description
  • Game 1: Vince Lombardi (6/11/1913 - 9/3/1970) (as Mystery Guest #1) - "Coach of World Champion Green Bay Packers" Game 2: Mrs. Helen Corwin - "Saddle Maker" (self-employed; she owns Corwin's Leather Shop, where she makes and repairs saddles which cost from $250 to $600 with no silverwork; from Blythe, CA, on the Colorado River; Mr. Daly said that she was a contestant 8 years ago; indeed, she was a guest on EPISODE #449 of January 25, 1959) Game 3: Herb Alpert (b. 3/31/1935) & The Tijuana Brass (as Mystery Guest Group) The TB band members who appear with Herb Alpert are: Nick Ceroli:(12/22/1939 - 8/11/1985) Drums Tonni Kalash:(6/15/1937 - 5/15/2001) Trumpet Bob Edmondson:(b. 3/5/1935) Trombone John Pisano:(b. 2/6/1931) Guitar Lou Pagani:(11/6/1927 - 10/19/1998) Piano Pat Senatore: (b. 8/19/1935) Bass Guitar . .moreless

  • Cast & Crew
  • John Daly

    Moderator (1950-1967)

  • Arlene Francis

    Regular Panelist (1950-1967)

  • Vince Lombardi

    Mystery Guest #1

  • Herb Alpert

    Mystery Guest Group

  • Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass

    Mystery Guest Group

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    • REVIEW: The panel bounced back rather nicely from the previous week's disaster by going a rather strong 2 for 3 on the evening. The first game was the first of two mystery guest rounds for the evening and Arlene and Bennett were given dual credit for correctly identifying Pro Football Hall of Fame coach Vince Lombardi. Though it wasn't really said, his appearance was in celebration of the fact that Lombardi's Green Bay Packers not only won the NFL World Championship by beating the Dallas Cowboys, but they also won the first ever Super Bowl by defeating the Kansas City Chiefs of the AFL. In the only regular game of the evening, the panel was absolutely stumped by the lady from Blythe, California who made and repaired saddles. Ironically, Mrs. Corwin was on the show eight years earlier, and just like this evening, she wound up stumping the panel. In the second mystery guest round, Sue correctly identified Herb Alpert and his band The Tijuana Brass. Herb had been on tour and was on the show to promote the Brass' television special that would be airing on CBS a few weeks later. He also talked about their near disastrous gig in Chicago when they nearly lost all their instruments due to fire. This definitely was a nice way to close out the evening. - Sargebri (2008) VINCE LOMBARDI: It was funny to see how Bennett was pleading with Vince Lombardi to return to the New York Giants. Vince was an assistant coach with the New York Football Giants from 1954 until 1959 when he was hired by the Packers to become head coach. Ironically, one of the other assistant coaches on the Giants with Lombardi was Tom Landry, who would go on to coach the Dallas Cowboys. Doubly ironic was the fact that Lombardi's Packers would beat the Cowboys in both the 1966 NFL championship game and the 1967 NFL title game. The 1967 game would go down in history as the "Ice Bowl" due to the fact that it was so cold that the field turned to ice. Also, after defeating the Oakland Raiders in Super Bowl II, Lombardi announced that he was retiring. However, the retirement didn't last long, as he returned to coach the Washington Redskins for the 1969 season. Sadly, Lombardi died from intestinal cancer in September 1970. Coincidentally, GSN aired a rebroadcast of this episode on February 1, 2007, two days before Super Bowl XXLII. In that game on Sunday, February 3, 2008, the New York Giants pulled off one of the biggest upsets in sports history when they defeated the previously unbeaten New England Patriots 17-14.- Sargebri (2008) HERB ALPERT: When Herb Alpert was asked if he was a vocalist, he replied "no." However, in 1968, a year after his appearance on WML, Herb would have the biggest hit of his career with #1 smash "This Guy's in Love With You," which marked one of the first times he sang on any of his records. Also, during the post game chat, Herb mentioned the record label he founded with Jerry Moss. That label, A&M, would go on to become one of the most successful independent labels in history. Among the artists that have recorded for A&M over the years were the Carpenters, Supertramp, Styx, Joe Cocker, Humble Pie, and Humble Pie's former guitarist, Peter Frampton. In fact, Frampton's 1976 live double album, "Frampton Comes Alive," is still the biggest selling live album in history. It was because of A&M's success that in 2006 Alpert and Moss were inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in the non-performers wing. - Sargebri (2008) HERB ALPERT'S FIRST VOCALS: While "This Guy's In Love With You" -- which was released in 1968, after CBS had canceled WML -- was probably Herb Alpert's most famous song with his vocals, it was not the first time he had vocalized on a Tijuana Brass song. Previously, Herb had vocalized on the song "Hello, Dolly!" from his 1964 album "South of the Border." In addition, he sang along with the other Tijuana Brass band mates in 1966 in a single of the song "Mame." - Uncatoon (2008)

    • (1) "LIVE" WATCH: This was the 37th surviving kinescope of a live telecast from within the post-Kilgallen era to leave uncut the opening "live" wording. (2) "WML?" PANEL WATCH: Following in the footsteps of Carol Channing, Jayne Meadows and Suzy Knickerbocker - not to mention Phyllis Newman - tonight it's Sue Oakland's turn to be introduced first among the post-Kilgallen era female guest panelists. And while this is Tony Randall's first "WML?" appearance of 1967, it is his fourteenth appearance on the program since Dolly Mae's passing. (3) HERB ALPERT & THE TIJUANA BRASS: The group appearing tonight as the second set of mystery guests was the touring outfit formed a few years after Alpert began recording as "Herb Alpert & The Tijuana Brass" on A&M when the label was first started in 1962. In the early years, on such tracks as the first big hit "The Lonely Bull" (A&M 703), the music was recorded in the studio by means of Alpert overdubbing himself on trumpet melodies and also employing the use of a few other session instrumentalists such as marimba player Julius Wechter (who also had his own group, "The Baja Marimba Band," that also recorded on A&M). The touring players - including Nick Ceroli, Tonni Kalash, Bob Edmondson, and John Pisano - were first organized for performing in concert in late 1964 after it became clear that Alpert's Tijuana Brass were going to be an ongoing concern rather than a mere fly-by-night, one-hit wonder. Ironically, none of the members were even remotely of Mexican descent; the instrumentalists were of varying other backgrounds, such as Italian and Jewish - in the latter case, including Alpert himself, who characterized his touring troupe as "three pastramis, two bagels, and an American cheese." Alpert's own trumpet style spawned quite a few imitators over the years. One of the more famous was Chuck Findley, who played on several Dionne Warwick hits of the 1960's that were written and produced by Burt Bacharach and Hal David. (Ironically, Findley was the trumpeter on the instrumental break of the Carpenters' breakout hit, "(They Long To Be) Close to You," which was released on A&M 1183 in 1970). Another famous music act featuring a trumpeting style on par with Alpert was Bert Kaempfert's orchestra, notably on such hits as "Red Roses for a Blue Lady." (Ironically, Kaempfert also recorded such tracks as "The Mexican Shuffle" that Alpert made famous; while Alpert recorded Kaempfert's "The Magic Trumpet.") Indeed, from the early, Mariachi-derived recordings of Alpert's Tijuana Brass, Herb's outfit, by the time of their appearance on tonight's "WML?" show, had long settled onto a musical style that had more in common with Mr. Kaempfert's jazzier, brass-based output. After the special they were promoting here and the following year's "The Beat of the Brass," they would do one more TV special in 1969 ("The Brass Are Comin'") before calling it a day. Alpert would revive the Tijuana Brass name a couple times into the 1980's, and have one more minor hit under that umbrella in 1973 as "Herb Alpert & The TJB" with the title track from the movie "Last Tango in Paris" (A&M 1420). Since 1973, Mr. Alpert has been married to Lani Hall, who was one of the lead vocalists for another top A&M group of this period, Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66, up to 1971. (4) While Singer sewing machines sponsored Herb Alpert & The Tijuana Brass' upcoming CBS special (which would be repeated on NBC on November 24, 1967) and the next year's "Beat of the Brass," perhaps the most famous TV special to be sponsored by the company was Elvis Presley's 1968 comeback special which signified his return to the charts after years of increasingly sub-par movies and equally sub-par music. What was originally called "Singer Presents Elvis" first aired on NBC on December 3, 1968 and topped the ratings in its time slot. The special, as well as its soundtrack album (called "'Elvis' - NBC-TV Special," RCA Victor LPM-4088), yielded two hits for "The King," "If I Can Dream" and "Memories." (5) "WML?" CREDITS CRUNCH WATCH: Loyal viewers seeing this "WML?" show on February 1, 2008 were once again forced to endure the callously crude compression of the aspect ratio of the end credit sequence, otherwise known as "crunching." (6) Following the February 1, 2008 airing of tonight's show, GSN ran an episode of "I've Got a Secret" which was first broadcast "live from New York" on November 12, 1962. The host was Garry Moore, the panel consisted of the "classic '60's" lineup of Bill Cullen, Betsy Palmer, Henry Morgan and Bess Myerson, and the celebrity guest was Carol Burnett. - W-B (2008)

    • REVIEW: This was a pretty good show for the panel this night, especially for the distaff members. It also was an extremely funny one, as Tony displayed his usual dry sense of humor. Arlene managed to guess that the first mystery guest was none other than Vince Lombardi, the coach of the world champion Green Bay Packers. Lombardi was just one week removed from "The Packs'" 35-10 victory over the AFL champion Kansas City Chiefs in what would retroactively be called Super Bowl I. The first two games were simply known as the NFL/AFL World Championship game, and wouldn't become known as the Super Bowl until the third game in 1969. The panel did have a rough time with the second contestant. Fortunately, the panel didn't recognize Mrs. Corwin from her previous appearance several years ago. Sue did manage to guess that the second mystery guests were Herb Alpert and The Tijuana Brass. Alpert and his band were on the show to promote their upcoming television special. All in all, the panel had a good night. - Sargebri (2004) VINCENT THOMAS LOMBARDI: This legendary coach once said, "Winning isn't everything, but wanting to win is." Coach Lombardi and his Packers had just come off of their impressive win over the Kansas City Chiefs a week earlier. In fact, Bennett mentioned the football game during the introductions on the previous week's show. This was in the middle of the incredible string in which the Packers won four NFL titles in six years. Also included in this string were the first two Super Bowls. In Super Bowl I, the Packers dominated the upstart AFL champion Kansas City Chiefs 35-10, and in Super Bowl II, they crushed the Oakland Raiders 33-14. Ironically, the Packers almost didn't make it to the second Super Bowl. A few weeks before that game, the Packers were forced to come from behind to beat the Dallas Cowboys 21-17 in the now legendary "Ice Bowl" game which was played in bitterly cold conditions. In fact, the field had frozen and players were slipping all over the field due to its icy condition. After Super Bowl II in 1968, Lombardi announced his retirement, but it was short-lived, as he went on to coach the Washington Redskins. Sadly, however, Lombardi contracted stomach cancer and passed away on September 3, 1970. He'll forever be remembered as one of the finest coaches in the sports world. - Sargebri (2004) HERB ALPERT: Bandleader Herb Alpert, along with Jerry Moss, founded A&M Records, which at the time was the biggest independent label in poplar music. His easy listening style was in sharp contrast to the rock and roll that was popular during the 1960s. His biggest band hits included "The Lonely Bull," "A Taste of Honey," and "The Mexican Shuffle," which was renamed "The Teaberry Shuffle" when it was later used in advertisements for Clark Chewing Gum Company's Teaberry Gum. Ironically, Alpert's biggest hit during this period was one in which his own vocals were used. The song "This Guy's in Love With You," written by Burt Bacharach and Hal David, was originally sung on Alpert's 1968 television special, "The Beat of the Brass." The song became so popular that it was immediately released as a single and reached the top spot on the charts. After that triumph, Alpert decided to devote more time to his role as president of A&M. During that time, he was able to sign several artists including Cat Stevens, Joe Cocker, Carole King, Sergio Mendes, and perhaps the label's biggest act, The Carpenters. However, in 1979, Alpert decided to come out of retirement and recorded the album "Rise." The album was a success and the song of the same name became his biggest hit, reaching number one that year. Alpert scored a further success with the Jimmy Jam/Terry Lewis produced song "Diamonds," featuring vocals by Janet Jackson. In 1989, Alpert and Moss sold A&M to PolyGram, which in turn was merged with Universal Music in 1999. Today, A&M is an imprint of Universal Music. After the 1989 sale, Alpert started another label, Almo Sounds, whose most famous acts included Gillian Welch, Imogen Heap, and Garbage featuring Shirley Manson. Ironically, Almo Sounds itself would become part of Universal Music after 2002. Alpert is also a painter, a Broadway producer as well as a philanthropist. He was, and still is, one of the most influential men in popular music. - Sargebri (2004) with additional info by W-B (2008)

    • Herb Alpert & The Tijuana Brass promoted their upcoming CBS television special on April 24, 1967, sponsored by the Singer Sewing Machine Company. They did not play any music during this appearance. - Suzanne (2004) While Herb Alpert performed and released several instrumental record albums with The Tijuana Brass, his biggest success would come seventeen months after this appearance. In June 1968, he would top the pop charts with a Hal David & Burt Bacharach song, "This Guy's In Love With You." This was Alpert's first solo hit, and one of his first releases on A&M Records that contained vocals. He had previously released vocal recordings for another label, Dot Records, under the assumed name of Dore Alpert. His other big hit was the instrumental "Rise," which reached #1 in 1979. - Walt (2004)

    • Tidbits: We see a new sponsor, The (Telephone Book) Yellow Pages. Their catchy mottos was: "Wear out the Yellow Pages instead of yourself. Let your fingers do the walking." - Suzanne (2004)

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