Will & Grace

Steams Like Old Times

Season 8, Ep 4, Aired 10/20/05
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  • Episode Description
  • Karen is forced to come to terms with her feelings for her presumed-dead husband when Jack gives his opinion on her men dilemma. Karen refuses to forgive Stan and wants nothing to do with him--until she learns how willingly Stan gave her up to Malcolm. Meanwhile, much to Grace's dismay, the new, altruistic Will begins doting on an elderly man whom he invites to their 10th Anniversary Game Night Spectacular.

  • Cast & Crew
  • Debra Messing

    Grace Adler

  • Eric McCormack

    Will Truman

  • Megan Mullally

    Karen Walker

  • Sean Hayes

    Jack McFarland

  • Leigh-Allyn Baker


  • Fan Reviews (3)
  • Is it just me or is Season 8 trying too hard?! Is it just me, or did the entire sitcom get steadily worse after Season 3/4?!

    By xxsitcomsxx, Aug 06, 2008

  • One way to describe it - Awful as

    By willandgracefan, Nov 01, 2005

  • This episode is a special one to mark Will & Grace's 10th game night spectacular, but it is not so enjoyable at whole!

    By bahabasaran, Oct 21, 2005

  • Trivia & Quotes
  • Quotes (4)

    • Karen: Thank God I have plans with Malcolm tonight Jack: Malcolm? I can't wait until your Malcolm is your Malcolm Ex.

    • Will: I saw this old photo of him on a beach. It could have been me... except for the Korean War going on in the background.

    • (Clyde admits he is not gay He was once married to a doctor who cheated on him.) Will: Wow, he's really not me. Larry: He's you, Grace. Ellen: (on the phone) Did you hear that, Rob? He's Grace. Grace: That's crazy. Will: Wait a minute. If you're not gay why are you getting meals from Project Angel Food? Clyde: Why not? It's food and it's free. Grace: Oh my God, he is me.

    • Karen: ...I want you to accept that and bless our union. Jack:I can't do that! Karen: Bless it! Jack :No! Karen: Bless It!! Jack: No!! (Karen fake sneezes) Jack: Bless you! Karen: Huuhaha!

    Trivia (5)

    • Will said that Clyde was born in 1934, which is the year Richard Chamberlain, the actor playing the part of Clyde, was born.

    • Song: The song that Jack sings when he is in the steam room with Stan is "Stormy Weather" by Ethel Waters.

    • The menu that Will & Grace give Clyde to keep score on is from Happy Noodle, the restaurant that Grace boycotted but then couldn't resist in the season 6 episode A Gay/December Romance.

    • This is Larry's first appearance since the season 7 episode "Key Party".

    • This is Ellen's first appearance since the season 7 episode "Sour Balls".

    Allusions (2)

    • Grace: (playing charades) Um, trashy pop singer. She pees in gas stations. Clyde: Oh, this is an easy one! Lola Falana. Grace: (giving a clue) Oops, I did it again. This is in reference to Britney Spears and her first successful single, "Oops! I Did It Again".

    • Episode Title: Steams Like Old Times This is a pun on the saying "Seems Like Old Times," when people are remarking on the present being like the past.

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