Every spring, the fight to make network television schedules intensifies as fledgling series are whittled down to the final shortlist of pilots—which started as a mere thought in a lonely writer's mind—that are one step away from breaching Mother Television's womb. Network executives will have plenty to look at before making their decisions on who survives, but we won't be so lucky; all we have to go on are loglines, casting announcements, and hunches. But that's enough for us to have a little fun with the whole process, so here's the 2013 edition of our annual feature 20 Pilots We Hope Get Made Into Series based on what little info we have.
This year's crop of potential series is a huge step up from last season's, when I had to pretend there were 20 good-sounding shows in the works. This year I can almost tell the truth! To make compile the list, I divided my picks equally among comedy and drama, then instantly threw out any series about normal detectives or doctors, all comedies about 20-somethings navigating the dating world, and pretty much every show about parents moving back in with their kids (seriously, there are like 10 of those in development). Instead, I paid close attention to high-concept loglines that jumped off the page, talented cast members, and creators' previous work in picking out winners.
Again, I can't say this enough: these are all hunches. The finished product could be terrible. Heck, last year I had 666 Park Avenue on the list. Whoops! So with that said, here's what I think sounds good this season.

Network: Fox
Genre: Single-camera Keystone Kops comedy
Starring: Andy Samberg (the penis-in-a-box guy from SNL), Andre Braugher (Last Resort), Terry Crews (the really muscly Old Spice guy), Melissa Fumero (Gossip Girl), Chelsea Peretti (Parks and Recreation). From Parks and Recreation writers Dan Goor and Mike Schur.
What it's about in one sentence: A diverse bunch of New York cops get into comedy capers!
Why we want to see it: Because everyone loves Police Academy!
Samberg has been overdue for a TV series for a long time, and even though
Brauer is known for drama, the man can do funny very well. What's not to
like about a bunch of goofy cops?
Why it might not make it: This has to be a shoo-in to make the
schedule, doesn't it? The only way it won't is if a network exec suffers a brain fart. So I guess a 75-percent chance it doesn't
make it.
Network: ABC
Genre: Manipulative drama
Starring: Christian Slater (Breaking In), Steve Zahn (Treme), Megalyn Echikunwoke (Made in Jersey). From Awake creator Kyle Killen.
What it's about in one sentence: Two brothers, one a genius and
the other a con, start an agency to solve problems using the real
science of manipulation and motivation.
Why we want to see it: Though this sounds much more grounded than
Killen's other material, the man knows how to make good television.
Zahn is also a favorite, and we're rooting for Slater to break his
curse.
Why it might not make it: Are manipulation and motivation sexy
enough to draw in a big audience? Yes they are, especially in Killen's
hands, and I'll give you a dollar to believe me.
Network: ABC
Genre: Single-camera British adaptation of a pretty good show
Starring: Kristen Schaal (Flight of the Conchords, The Daily Show), June Diane Raphael (New Girl), Jenny Slate (House of Lies, Saturday Night Live), Matt Oberg (The Onion News Network, Ugly Americans)
What it's about in one sentence: Based on the British series of
the same name, three 30-something ladies live like they're college kids
and are clueless about settling down.
Why we want to see it: Look at that cast! Schaal and Slate are
particular favorites, and they're ideal for roles like this. Plus, when Schaal stepped in to replace Mandy Moore, one of the pilot's original casting choices (WTF?), it was a great sign that
the creators had refined their sense of direction. We're hoping this is the big
break for the very funny Oberg, too.
Why it might not make it: A wise man once said, "STOP IT WITH THE
BRITISH ADAPTATIONS ALREADY!" That wise man is dead now—he was killed when
NBC announced it was adapting Free Agents—but his wisdom still lives on.
Network: CBS
Genre: The old banana-in-the-tailpipe cop procedural
Starring: Brandon T. Jackson (Tropic Thunder), Eddie Murphy (Beverly Hills Cop), Christine Lahti (Chicago Hope), David Denman (The Office), Kevin Pollack (The Usual Suspects)
What it's about in one sentence: It's an update of the classic comedy, following Axel Foley's son as he tries to live outside his famous cop dad's shadow. From Last Resort and Terriers creator Shawn Ryan.
Why we want to see it: We'd watch a puppet show by Shawn Ryan, simply because of his superb track record. But have you seen Beverly Hills Cop
lately? That movie holds up VERY well even today, and if Ryan can
wrangle the spirit of the film, this could be the type of procedural
that's worth watching.
Why it might not make it: Beverly Hills Cop was one of those films where everything went right; the TV update will need that kind of luck, too.
Network: ABC
Genre: Boozy, single-camera comedy
Starring: Kate Simses (What's Your Number), Ginger Gonzaga (Ted, Legit), Blake Lee (Parks and Recreation)
What it's about in one sentence: Hot chicks and hunky dudes head to a chi-chi Manhattan bar looking for lust.
Why we want to see it: The logline makes it sound as plain as a vodka soda, but there's a catch: There are 10 lead characters (which explains the "Who?" casting) and the entire first season chronicles one night. So it's like The Nine but with less murder and more maraschino cherries. We're still trying to figure out whether having the writers of The Hangover behind it helps it or hurts it, though.
Why it might not make it: I'm waiting for more serialized comedy, you're waiting for more serialized comedy, but TV networks HATE serialized comedy. This sounds like a serialized comedy, and that means it'll have to be really funny to make it to air. Then it can be unceremoniously canceled.

Network: The CW
Genre: Post-apocalyptic deja vu teen drama
Starring: Michael Malarkey, Yael Groblas, Anthony Head (Buffy the Vampire Slayer), Lucien Laviscount (who cares, look at that name!)
What it's about in one sentence: Based on a book and set 300 years in the future, the
drama follows a young woman who wins a lottery to compete to be the
next queen of a war-ravaged country.
Why we want to see it: Because it didn't make it to air last year when
it was also on this list, and we want to see why The CW decided to give
it another try with a total overhaul. Plus, I look forward to typing the
name "Lucien Laviscount" over and over again when we cover it. But really,
the story here is sort of Hunger Games-ish but with less killing.
Why it might not make it: It didn't work the first time, why should it work the second time?
Network: CBS
Genre: Super-powered deep-fried single-camera comedy
Starring: Rupert Grint (Harry Potter's redhead), Tyler Labine (Reaper), Stephen Fry (Blackadder). From Greg Garcia, creator of My Name is Earl, Raising Hope.
What it's about in one sentence: A fast-food worker (Grint) receives a huge inheritance and decides to become a superhero.
Why we want to see it: We can talk about the great cast that includes Grint's first American TV role, the always hilarious Labine, and the legendary Frye, or we can talk about the fun and goofy premise, but really, we want to see a single-camera comedy on CBS.
Why it might not make it: It's a single-camera comedy on CBS. Unless CBS is really looking to get into single-cams, what does this pair with?
Network: NBC
Genre: Time-jumping adorkable single-camera comedy
Starring: Ellie Kemper (The Office), David Krumholtz (Partners, Numb3rs), Stephnie Weir (MADtv)
What it's about in one sentence: The story of a unique (we're guessing "adorkable") 31-year-old woman is told via flashbacks to her past as a 13-year old.
Why we want to see it: Another high-concept comedy, this time telling interweaving stories from Brenda's (Kemper) past and present. It's like The Adventures of Young New Girl mixed with New Girl, and Kemper has the chops to make this work.
Why it might not make it: Are we already over the quirky hot girl who can't get a date yet?

Network: Fox
Genre: Kill All Humans cop drama
Starring: Karl Urban (Star Trek the movie), Michael Ealy (Common Law), Lili Taylor (Hemlock Grove so I guess she doesn't survive the first season?), Minka Kelly (Friday Night Lights), Mackenzie Crook (The Office U.K., Game of Thrones). But the biggest name here is J.J. Abrams, who shepherded this project with J.H. Wyman (Fringe).
What it's about in one sentence: ROBOT COPS ROBOT COPS ROBOT COPS working with human cops in the fuuuuuuuuture!
Why we want to see it: Because ROBOT COPS! This series could go in lots of different directions. Also, Abrams'
participation attracted a great cast. And after Wyman's great run
with Fringe, we're confident he'll have some great prime directives for this series.
Why it might not make it: Lots of people are trying to weave
sci-fi elements into primetime television, and they're not having much
luck. The combination of police procedural and ROBOTS might help, but this is still sci-fi. Get ready for plenty of "small but loyal audience"
mentions in blurbs for this one.
Network: NBC
Genre: Typical girl-needs-to-kill-her-mom-and-is-sought-after-by-two-families-of-assassins drama.
Starring: KaDee Strickland (Private Practice), Tom Everett Scott (Southland), Jonathan Banks (Breaking Bad), Skyler Samuels (The Nine Lives of Chloe King), Chris Zylka (The Secret Circle)
What it's about in one sentence: An orphaned girl caught between
two families comprised of hitmen and assassins is mentored by a Chinese man and
must kill her mom to lead a normal life okay sure that sounds pretty
normal.
Why we want to see it: Ummm, did you read that logline? This has epic insane drama written all over it with murder and Karate Kid and Kill Bill.
Why it might not make it: It could all collapse under
its ambition and be toned down for network television, making it a huge
dud. This has to be a 10pm show, and that's an unkind slot.
Network: CBS
Genre: Single-camera bachelor fest
Starring: Chris Smith (Paranormal Activity 3), Kal Penn (Kumar!), Jerry O'Connell (Sliders), Tony Shalhoub (Monk)
What it's about in one sentence: A young man (Smith) becomes buddies with a bunch of older dudes he meets in a short-term living complex that's popular with divorced men.
Why we want to see it: That's a pretty solid cast, led by the return of Penn and Shalhoub to television. But really, the idea of a bunch of loser men as the underdogs after being thrown out by their wives has appeal in a CBS-comedy sort of way.
Why it might not make it: Just as easily as this could work, it could really not work. And honestly, this was the last comedy to make the cut because I couldn't find anything better.
Network: NBC
Genre: Magical firearms Western drama
Starring: Michael Huisman (Nashville, Treme), Elena Satine (Melrose Place), Laura Ramsey (Ummm... My Generation?), Aldis Hodge (Leverage)
What it's about in one sentence: Based on a graphic novel, this Western follows the stories behind six magical guns with special powers.
Why we want to see it: Western. Sci-fi. Magic guns. Based on an established graphic novel. Yes, yes, yes, yes!
Why it might not make it: This is exactly the kind of ambitious genre project that NBC will butcher beyond recognition to make it easier to swallow for the masses.

Network: ABC
Genre: Avengers for the small screen semi-superhero drama
Starring: Ming Na (Eureka), Clark Gregg (The New Adventures of Old Christine, The Avengers), Brett Dalton (Killing Lincoln), Elizabeth Henstridge (Hollyoaks),
Iain De Caestecker, and a bunch of other people whose names you don't
know but will be superstars. This is Joss Whedon's baby.
What it's about in one sentence: Action-drama from Whedon about Marvel Comics' famed secret intelligence agency that crosses over into superhero stories.
Why we want to see it: Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Whedon brings his success with The Avengers to your TV and you're asking why we want to see it? Puh-leeeeze.
Why it might not make it: It'll make it.
Network: ABC
Genre: Single-camera father-daughter pasttime
Starring: Maggie Lawson (Psych), James Caan (something called The Godfather), Ben Koldyke (Work It), Lenora Crichlow (U.K.'s Being Human)
What it's about in one sentence: A recently divorced woman moves back in with her dad and reluctantly coaches her son's Little League team.
Why we want to see it: Lawson plays a woman who tried to leave sports behind, but gets dragged back into it. This one has a chance to have a lot of heart in addition to laughs, and since I love laugh-crying and killing two birds with one stone, it stands out.
Why it might not make it: This one is going to be all about tone, and if it hits that sweet spot (pun intended) between the magic of sports and how it can help rebuild lives, it should be a home run. Anything else could be a strikeout. Although there's the slight possibility that it could be like the infield fly rule, or even a ground rule double. Sports cliches!
Network: ABC
Genre: Single-camera '80s nostalgia
Starring: Wendi McLendon-Covey (Bridesmaids), Jeff Garlin (Curb Your Enthusiasm), George Segal (Just Shoot Me!). From Adam F. Goldberg (Breaking In).
What it's about in one sentence: In the style of The Wonder Years, this look back at childhood in the '80s is based on Goldberg's life.
Why we want to see it: Television is ready for an '80s-set comedy. We're all finally over That '80s Show, right?
Why it might not make it: There's not a lot of starpower, and kids haven't been able to carry primetime since, well, The Wonder Years.
Network: ABC
Genre: Single-camera comedy gettin' smart
Starring: Rob Corddry (Childrens Hospital), Paget Brewster (Criminal Minds), Nat Faxon (Ben & Kate), Ken Jeong (Community, this awesome music video)
What it's about in one sentence: Looking to prove himself to his son, a man (Corddry) accidentally joins the Secret Service.
Why we want to see it: If you've seen Corddry in any sort of police/secret agent role, you know he kills it. This has modern-day Get Smart potential, which could be way better than it sounds. Plus, we need Jeong on our TVs at all times in something other than Hangover reruns on Spike TV, and if Community doesn't make it, this is his fallback.
Why it might not make it: ABC might see this for what it is: a comedy that pulls in a small but loyal following. No one wants one of those right now.
Network: CBS
Genre: The biggest doctor drama you'll ever see
Starring: Jason Isaacs (Awake), Kathryn Morris (Cold Case), Beth Riesgraf (Leverage), Sean Astin (a hobbit)
What it's about in one sentence: You'll never guess what this one's about! Oh, I guess you can tell by the title. It's a medical drama following the Surgeon General.
Why we want to see it: Normally, a medical drama is been-there-done-that super snooze alert. But with Isaacs as the doc of the United States, this one could be a lot bigger than another soap with surgeries.
Why it might not make it: Then again, it's surgeries that usually add a lot of the tension to medical dramas. Will we be that pumped up for medical bureaucracy?
Network: The CW
Genre: Rebuilding Earth with hot kids sci-fi drama
Starring: Eliza Taylor (Neighbours), Henry Ian Cusick (Lost), Kelly Hu (Arrow), Isaiah Washington (Grey's Anatomy), Paige Turco (Person of Interest)
What it's about in one sentence: After stupid Earthlings nuke the Earth to smithereens, a spaceship housing the last of mankind sends 100 juvenile delinquents down to the planet to see if we can move back in.
Why we want to see it: No one is sick of post-apocalyptic shows yet, and who better to test out the scorched Earth than sexy young teens? There's a lot of potential here, and the cast is pretty established given that this is The CW.
Why it might not make it: Will this be too bleak to find an audience on The CW? Better keep the shirts off the hunks!

Network: CBS
Genre: Multi-camera comedy, yes, a multi-camera comedy actually made the list
Starring: Will Arnett (Arrested Development), Margo Martindale (The Americans), Beau Bridges (My Name Is Earl), JB Smoove (Curb Your Enthusiasm), Mary Elizabeth Ellis (It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia). From Greg Garcia, creator of My Name is Earl, Raising Hope.
What it's about in one sentence: A recently divorced man has to
deal with new problems when his parents, who are having marital problems
of their own, move in with him... yikes!
Why we want to see it: The cast and Garcia's proven history!
Why it might not make it: Everything but the cast! Can Will Arnett work in a multi-camera setup?
*Unauthorized appears to be a jokey Garcia synonym for "untitled."
Network: ABC
Genre: Drama version of The Lottery Changed My Life
Starring: Stephen Louis Grush (The Mob Doctor), Isiah Witlock, Jr. (The Wire), Summer Bushil (90210)
What it's about in one sentence: The lives of gas station employees in Queens are forever changed when they pool together and win the lottery.
Why we want to see it: I've always wondered how this situation would play out in real life, so this is the next best thing. There are lots of crazy possible directions for this, and there's always compelling drama in the nouveau riche.
Why it might not make it: It's another adaptation of a British television series, and those seasons only last five episodes. How is this going to expand to 22?
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- The Selection. If it even gives me a hint of a Hunger Games feel, I'm in.
-Human had me at Karl Urban and Michael Ealy. I'd give it a shot, just for them.
-Bloodline. Yes to the hitmen/assassins storyline, dude from TSC, and chick from 9LOCK. Reluctantly overlooking Asian stereotype.
-The Sixth Gun. The only thing that will make me consider peeking at this is Aldis Hodge.
-Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. I believe, I was a go at Avengers and Whedon.
-How the Hell am I Normal.I love the 80's. I was a fan of The Wonder Years, and I've found CW's The Carrie Diaries to be surprisingly delightful. This could be pulled off if done right.
- Surgeon General. I like medical shows, and Parker from Leverage, obviously.
-The Hundred. Maybe. A big maybe.
Lucky 7 is making me think about a similar show that came out a few years back that lasted all of four episodes. Anyone else remember Windfall? Yeah... I'm gonna say no on Lucky 7.
I wish they'd just stop with the British adaptations. Just stop it. Enough already. It's annoying. It's like setting a show up for failure before it's even out of the gate because it's already at risk of being compared to the original.
1.Agents of SHIELD: Avengers, Marvel, Joss Whedon...
2.Beverly Hills Cop: Shawn Ryan is a genius and i love Eddie Murphy's trilogy
3.Influence: Kyle Killen is another genius (RIP Awake) and Christian Slater is a personal favorite
4. Anatomy of Violence: Homeland's creators, Skeet Ulrich, Amber Tamblyn
5: Gang Related: Fast Five's writer (Chris Morgan), very hip cast
6: Human: J.H Wyman (Fringe), JJ Abrams, Karl Urban, Michael Ealy.. promising!
7: Believe: The pitch is not that interesting but i really like JJ Abrams and Cuaron so..
8: Super Clyde: Greg Garcia, Rupert Grint, Tyler Labine.. looks hilarious
9: Rand Ravich project: By the creator of the underrated "Life"
10: Crazy Ones: By the creator of Ally Mcbeal and Harry Law and starring Robin Williams and Sarah Michelle Gellar
But I am with you about Marvel perhaps going a bit too far. Regardless of how much I adore Joss. Depends on what sort of budget they have and how they handle the beginning of it. If they go as far back as possible, connect it to movies in a believable manner, it MIGHT have a chance.
Another CBS exec: Yes, I too am fascinated with the Surgeon General as well. Ol' wassername? And clearly audiences can't get enough medical drama. There's Grey's and... Well, Grey's is still on. We really are in touch with what people want, aren't we? We're the best.
Fan of good tv: Jason Isaacs should still be doing Awake. Screw NBC.
*"Influence" sounds like a cross between Numb3rs and Prison Break, but still sounds interesting and I'm hoping ABC doesn't blow it.
*"Super Clyde" sounds interesting.
*"Spy" is a very intriguing idea, I want to know how someone accidentally joins the CIA and what hijinks ensue afterward. This might end up being a campy comedy since it's on ABC and they have quite a few comedy shows about families.
*"Surgeon General" I am willing to give this a shot because the cast is so awesome. As for the storyline, we'll see.
*"The Hundred" I'm trying to reconcile the amazing cast with a mediocre story idea on a less than mediocre network. But this could be a good show if the CW aims to please more than just teenagers.
DISLIKES
*"The Selection" seems too much like the Hunger Games for me, even though I am sure fans of the book will disagree.
*"Brenda Forever" seems too much like the movie 13 Going on 30.
*"Bloodline" seems to share a lot of storyline elements with Revenge.
*"Lucky 7" reminds me of a show called Windfall that aired on NBC a few years ago and didn't even last one season. Side note, Windfall was also the first time I saw Lana Parilla on TV.
Everything else not specifically mentioned is firmly in the "meh" category. Like it might be an ok show, but not something I would watch personally.
I fear the Untitled Dan Goor/Mike Schur comedy, the cast is a mess and I just don't think Samberg can carry this kind of show. That said, I hope it'll get made and I'll be wrong for the very reasons you mentioned, plus Samberg's last appearance on SNL (a cameo) was actually quite good acting, understated and funny, so there may be hope for him.
Influence sounds good, cast says it'll be expensive and struggle if it gets made, but again I agree that I want to see this.
Pulling is a no, as much as I like Schaal, this isn't the show for her.
Really, you want to see Beverly Hills Cop? I think Shawn Ryan's hands are going to be tied by Paramount/CBS wanting to control and protect their property. Still, I'll be there for Ryan and the premise, even if only to watch the train crash.
Mixology is a huuuuge no thanks for me, the premise sounds repetitive and drinky and gimmicky and repetitive. Did I mention "repetitive" yet?
The CW is really jonesing for that Hunger Games show, huh? I don't think they'll pull it off, and I wouldn't watch if they did, but I think they could make a meal out of it without viewers like me.
Super Clyde interesting idea, but I cannot stand Tyler Labine most of the time (he was bearable on Animal Practice by not playing the crazy out of control loud guy, but not a standout) and the premise seems somewhat thin. Even with Stephen Fry though, seems too gimmicky to work, especially as you said for CBS.
Brenda Forever, I like the star but this seems a stretch and I feel like Kemper needs to get a little more experience under her belt before she can carry a project like this on her shoulders all by herself, NBC is a tough mistress.
Human is not going to survive, Fox is a dream-killer (except for Fringe fans) and the premise has been done in almost every decade since the invention of sponsored programming television.
Bloodline sounds more like it'll turn out a cross between Red Widow and Undercovers than anything good.
Ex-Men has a great cast and a likable premise, but is also awfully close to TV Land's "The Exes" which apparently evaporated. Going single-camera is an odd format for the premise, seems perfect for an Odd Couple-type 3-cam format.
The Sixth Gun is DOA, that's NBC plus Western plus Fantasy, that is like throwing knives in the air and hoping you can learn to juggle them before they land in your foot.
Agents of SHIELD will disappoint some expectations who are hoping for superheroes all the time, but I think this premise had all the right moves before Whedon committed to it. I fear it won't get 2 seasons though as ABC is fickle.
Back in the Game reminds me of something CBS would have tried a decade ago, ABC doesn't do shows like this very well but the cast is good, even if the sports undertone isn't something ABC is good out. I predict this gets made and not aired.
How the Hell Am I Normal is a home run in terms of talent, but the premise seems like too much for a sitcom, and I know Goldberg's not going to keep it light all the time, ABC doesn't handle tone shifts well. Predict this gets a pilot and not aired as well.
Spy, I fear this has all the ingredients to fall on its face.
Surgeon General, this is going to way too dry and/or stupid.
The Hundred, um, pass. Sounds perfect for the CW if the sexy 20somethings start rutting, but kinda risky as there's little else for audiences on that network to grab onto.
Unauthorized Greg Garcia Project, because Greg Garcia's been politely pushed off a few networks, why not another one? Premise sounds rather awful, but cast is rock solid.
Lucky 7 might be more interesting as a miniseries, ABC could turn this into another primetime soap, that'd be a shame.
only elementary and revolution along with defiance (after 2eps) and hannibal (3eps) are the best new shows are 2012/13 season. i wanted to like deception has it was in the same sort of mould has revenge but deception took itself seriously and the acting, scripts and direction were poor and i have never got past the 1st ep/pilot.
I just wished that for once the ratio of the pilots were not
90% percent crap
and
10% ok well Its the best of the worst so lets give a try
Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. for all the obvious reasons
Superclyde. Interesting concept, Rupert Grint is the only one from Harry Potter i can stand, and the rest of the cast seems good. So hope this one gets made.
The Hundred. I like sci-fi, i like sci-fi/fantasy + CW and above all i like Henry Ian Cusick, so this sounds promising atleast.
Human. Karl Urban, Minka Kelly and robocops. Nuff said.
Beverly Hills Cops. Interested in seeing how this will turn out as i were a fan of the old movies.
Bloodline. Intrigued with this weird assasin plot. Could have potential.
We can even be shorter with S.H.I.E.L.D.: Joss Whedon.
I do find it a little troubling that I like post-apocalyptic shows, but they keep making them the movie equivalent of YA. Nothing wrong with it, but I'm craving depth in these things and it doesn't seem like I'll get it. Still, I'd probably watch all of them in the hopes of stumbling onto something good.
not familiar with any of the cast for the selection. will probably wait to literally see the cast before deciding on it.
I think beth riesgraf can do better than a doctor procedural.
the unauthorized cast just doesn't do it for me. I feel like up all night was already a step down for arnett after running wild and 30 rock and the fact that he stuck with it after the changes made me lose almost all faith in him.
mixology sounds too close to 20 somethings navigating the dating world for my tastes.
the cast for lucky 7 doesn't do it for me either.
back in the game, I dunno. I can go either way on caan and lawson. and damnit it would suck if this is the last season of psych. the cast is so solid together to split this up would be a travesty. i probably would watch this but I am not hoping it gets picked up. unless lawson leaves all by herself.
all the others I voted to see. for a minute there I forgot that the reason I didn't watch dredd was because of urban's accent but remembered it was because of the poor quality.