Arrow "Legacies" Review: Family Ties

Arrow S01E06: "Legacies"

With “Legacies,” Arrow tried, for the first time in my mind, to keep as many of its main characters as possible involved with a plot of some sort, also do an action story, and have all of those elements complement one another in some way. While I don’t think the episode was as just plain entertaining or as good as last week’s, it’s the sort of episode I want to see Arrow attempt more often as we head around the bend on the show's initial 13-episode order.

Despite obviously being about legacies (another thing Arrow shares with Revenge: heavy-handed episode titles that tell us the theme), this episode was really about families and their complicated dynamics. Oliver is obviously at the forefront, as he’s blowing off his living family to carry out his dead father’s wishes, but he’s also doing this in a very limited way, as Diggle pointed out to him.

I never expected Arrow to be overly attached to that list—and it shouldn’t be—but the way in which Diggle got Oliver to break out from those confines was not only clever but organic to the story. I like that Oliver is really resistant to fighting “street crimes” because it’s not what his father intended, and that Diggle is attempting to expand those horizons. Diggle’s right to do this, of course, because even if you eliminate all the “CEOs and crooked entrepreneurs” of Starling City, crime’s still going to be there, and it’ll need to be dealt with.

It’s that's same singular focus that’s hurting Oliver's living relations, too. Moira’s frustration with the lack of cohesion in the household, especially after Walter’s departure last week, is palpable. She’s all by herself now, mirroring, in some ways, Thea’s position in the family after the yacht sank, and she’s looking for her children to help fill that gap. Couple that with her dismay over Oliver’s distance, and it’s no wonder she’s throwing passive-aggressive brunches with the other members of Starling City’s elite.

Even though it was only done in a few scenes, I felt like the progression through Moira’s arc in this episode really worked. A lot of this is due to Susanna Thompson and Stephen Amell really nailing the push and pull between their characters, the frustrated delivery and heavy silences, so that when they arrived at Big Belly Burger at the end of the episode, the moment was earned as a first step toward the two of them beginning work on reestablishing their relationship.

These family tensions were nicely paralleled with the bank-robbing Restons (inspired by the Royal Flush Gang from the comics). Not only did the episode provide a link through Derek (played by TV character actor extraordinaire Currie Graham) and Queen Consolidated to give that plot just the right amount of emotional heft, but it also allowed us to see another father frustrated with the choices he’s made and how those choices are affecting his family.

I cannot stress how much I like that Arrow crafted the episode in this way. It was by no means a complicated structure, but the way individual plots echoed each other made them richer and more interesting, and that's exactly the sort of thing that the episode (and the show) needed. I’m not suggesting that every episode must be set up this way, but it’ll help the show balance its action and melodrama beats more effectively.

However, some things didn’t work quite as well. Thea thinking that Tommy was into her felt really bizarre. While his vagueness early in the episode—when he said he's into a girl who doesn’t care about money, and that he’s known her a long time—laid the groundwork, it’s not very believable that she’d respond that way, considering that Thea’s the one who told Oliver about Tommy and Laurel sleeping together. So it made her breakdown at the gala sort of unearned (and not all that well acted by Willa Holland, who showcased all the worst "acting drunk" clichés). If there had been some previous hint that she was crushing on Tommy, then yes, it might’ve worked better, but as an isolated incident to drive home her sense of loneliness, it wasn’t all that compelling.

Thea aside, the subplot involving Tommy throwing an incredibly quickly planned gala for CNRI after it lost its biggest sponsor, in hopes of showing Laurel that he’s ready to stop being the one-night-stand guy, was fine. Katie Cassidy performs far better with lighter, more comedic fare, so her scenes with Colin Donnell didn't feel quite as lost in the tall grass as her scenes with Amell have the past couple of weeks.

Sadly, after I praised the island flashbacks last week, this week’s flashbacks didn’t work very well. I feel like present-day Oliver covered similar-ish ground with his father’s gravestone back in “Honor Thy Father,” making island Oliver’s struggle, as it were, sort of dull. It offered a little bit of character work for that island arc, but beyond that it really just existed for Oliver to find the flame-activated names in the notebook. At least we know where the names came from now.


What’d you all think of the episode?



Notes & Quotes


– “Why would he want you to be a wizard?” and “Snap!” were continuations of the Oliver-is-behind-on-his-pop-culture-references bit, but the Dr. Oz one was a bit of a stretch since he was a thing before Oliver ended up on the island, even if he wasn't as well-known as he is now.

– Despite the fact that it was mostly there as an exposition dump regarding Walter’s whereabouts, seeing Oliver and Thea talk and behave like brother and sister was such a relief. Their comedy duo rendition of Moira’s praise of Carter Bowen was not only funny, but natural.

– “The first annual attempt to get back into my pants gala.”


– “I should add ‘Personal internet researcher for Oliver Queen’ to my job title... happily, I mean.”

– Doing the fake math, it seems that Colin Salmon, who plays Walter, and Paul Blackthorne, who plays Quentin, are worth four guest stars.

– DC Comics Fun Facts: Stagg Industries, which pulled its funding for CNRI, is owned by Simon Stagg, the villainous businessman most associated with the superhero Metamorpho; Keystone City, where the Royal Flush Gang started, is home to the Flash, while Coast City, where Tommy wanted to take Laurel, is the home base of Green Lantern Hal Jordan. (Thanks to @Gislef for his sharp eye; I originally had Central City, Keystone's sister city, and the typo Coastal City.)

– I normally don’t harp on these sorts of things, but this is kind of driving me nuts in an irrational way: In the background of Oliver’s Arrow Cave/lair/whatever, there’s water cascading past the windows. I can’t tell if it’s raining (there haven't been any establishing shots of rain) or if there’s just a drainage pipe nearby, but it appears in every scene that takes place in that location and I have no idea why it’s there beyond atmosphere. I get that all the Arrow Cave stuff was most likely filmed over the course of a day, and so no one turned off the water machine, but still.


– Here’s the fanboy gripe (I’ve done really well with not engaging in these!): As a fan of the Royal Flush Gang in animation and comics, the painted hockey masks and assault rifles didn't really work for me. Folks dressed up like playing cards with energy weapons and an android (Ace is often an android) wouldn’t exactly fit in with Arrow, and the show’s solution to featuring those characters (albeit without the 10) was about as satisfying as any I could come up with, so I sort of wish that Arrow hadn’t bothered, but I also liked the storyline around them. I’m curious to see what folks who don’t know the Royal Flush Gang from other media thought of them.

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Sorry, I thought this episode was another boring outing of Arrow and didn't hold my interest at all. I know I'm late to the show and I haven't read the comics, but I gave the show seven episodes and I can't be bothered with it anymore.
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It's not water in the background of the arrow cave it's a big ventilator. ;)
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Yeah, so after the spoiler warning about The Royal Flush Gang (not a big spoiler; not your fault that I don't watch the 'next week on Arrow' stuff) I didn't think I'd like this episode much, but I was wrong. I didn't like hardly anything at all.

I actually would've posted days ago, but it took me forever to finish this episode...or so I thought. When I finally sat down to finish tonight, I realized that I'd watched the entire thing, but forgot. My bad, but theirs, too. I forgot, but it only because the episode was mostly forgettable.

I'm sorry, but Diggle's the sidekick. He and we can call it whatever, but when you need to get the main guy involved in your projects before you can do anything...and then, *you* don't do anything, you're the sidekick. When the main guy tries it his way, unsuccessfully, and you then ask him 'what's next?' you're the sidekick. I get why it works out this way; it's Arrow's show, and as they proved this week with the mom's husband, there isn't enough room to fit everyone's projects in one episode. Also, when any key questions like 'now what,' 'what's our next move,' 'how to we get in,' 'how do we find him' are used, you're the sidekick. It's too bad, but really, aside from making a spinoff (Diggle? Big Dig?), how else was this gonna work? (I'd probably watch Diggle, too. Just saying, CW.)

Thea, well...it wouldn't be a CW show without its PLL moments, but I don't really get who this last one was for. I think we already knew that Thea hated her life and her Priviledged Kid Problems, but this one didn't even spill over onto Oliver. I guess it was to humanize Tommy during his push into what's-her-name's story, but it's hard to think that they really want us to take him seriously, even briefly. It's not like Tommy and Thea even concluded the night with a new understanding. It just finished awkwardly. Realistic, but...why start now? This whole thing was ridiculous.

Back to the card guys, I'm a fan of them, too. It wasn't that I didn't want to see them; I just didn't want to see them butchered here. Like the reviewer (basically) said, there wasn't really a way to have them dressed entirely as cards (*riding* flying cards), or have Ace as a giant, silent android, but if the closest thing they were gonna do was put on a few hockey masks...why bother with the theme at all? It'd be like having The Flash show up with just a lightning bolt tattoo on his wrist. They could've at least had them be rich, or financed well enough to have higher-tech weapons. It would've been nice if they'd posed some kind of threat to Arrow. Watching bullets bounce off Superman is really only cool for a few seconds.

The one part I did like was Oliver and his mom. I get that she's the bad guy (for good reasons, I'm sure), but it was decent of Oliver to look out for her for a moment. Those BS formal lunches have got to go, but I think Oliver can help his family in small ways. I never liked that he was going to pretend to be a total screw up. That's his sister's job now.

So, I didn't actually hate this episode like I did the 4th, but it was a flat 'meh.' Stupid is much worse than boring, but boring is just so...meh.
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I liked this episode (as I have all the episodes) but my question is - if Oliver was using pages of his father's book to keep the fire stoked on the island, does that mean he burned a whole passel of names? Was he ripping from the back where there wasn't any or do we assume the ENTIRE book was filled?
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There's some debate, I think, below, about how that plays out, and if the first page getting burned was part of his dream/hallucination.
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Hmm, that makes sense!

Keep up these awesome reviews! I enjoy coming here for a good read after each episode!
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does the green arrow have any enemies with super human abilities or is the show just showing the normal people for the sake of budget and special effects and realism?
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He does, but they're few and far in between. The biggest is probably Brick (superstrength, a degree of invulnerability). Most of his enemies tended to be other archers or regular humans who were likewise at peak physical condition (Drakon, Onomatopoeia). Count Vertigo strikes the balance as a regular guy who originally had device-based ability...though I think it has since become a superpower.
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In the comics he does, the above mentioned Android in the Royal Flush Gang being a reference. But the producers and writers have said that they will not be including super humans or otherwise in the show for the foreseeable future, as well as no cameos by Clark Kent.
From Zap2it's interview with the Executive Producers
"Kreisberg says that the lack of superpowers doesn't limit the characters they can bring in from the DC universe, but it does give them license to change those characters. "What it does is it creates an opportunity for us to reinvent some characters and present them in a non-powers, grounded way," he explains."
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kreisberg is nuts...why would anyone want to make superheros more grounded ?!?! pretty much taking the fun out of it...and pretty much taking the point away from why we are into these things! am i wrong?
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oh ok thanks
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I really liked this episode! I mean it did have some minor things that were kinda...ugh, but overall I really liked the effort they put forth into actually utilizing all of its characters to the best of their abilities w/o it detracting from any other aspect of the show.
- Thea was almost becoming more tolerable. She was really solid in this episode with the back and forth with Ollie, which was like the second time that they actually seemed believable in their sibling bond. I also loved the attempts at giving Tommy advice, up until the point where out of the blue she went all cliche with developing a crush on her bro's best friend (no...not diggle...I know right?) in all of ten minutes and acting like a drunk fool. I cringed. Hard. It's like they give you tiny nuggets of pretty sound character development and then revert back to the typecast teen handbook. Frustrating. So I was both pleased and disappointed in her progression this week.
-Tommy. So apparently even though he's set up to be Ollie's best friend, the irony is that he shines best when he's not around Ollie. Vulnerable Tommy with Laurel...though still not nearly as interesting as other aspects of this show, works. I have no stake in this not so believable love triangle thingy they're trying to do. Any romantic aspect of this show is so far down on the list of things that hold my interest, however Tommy and Laurel seem to work.the best way to actually give both their characters presence is to apparently have them interacting with each other in a B...eh, C story
-I'm blanking on her name...curses...but badass Penelope Garcia like computer chick. LOVE her. Every episode they should have her in it. She's proof that it is possible for someone to work the hell out of a little bit of screentime. Having her, Oliver, and DIggle in the same scene. Made.Of.Win.
-Which brings me to the awesomeness. I knew I'd enjoy the episode when it started off with Oliver and Diggle sparring in the Batman/TMNT sewage cellar dungeon thingy. That made me smile so hard I felt like my face was cracking. I love this. I love the partnership and dynamic that is Dollie. Oggle? Still gotta work on that. But love it. It wasn't surprising that Ollie was laser focused on the execs so I was thrilled when Diggle pointed out to him that there are other ways that he could help. Diggle has this way of dropping knowledge on this Ollie in this "you're amusing kid" kinda way that I love. Diggle's already slightly amused at this great white hope saving the urbanites thing that Ollie has going on, but challenging him that if he was genuine in his justice there are more ways to help was satisfying as a viewer. It's like how you never take some A-list celeb seriously in their quest for saving the poor orphan kids of the world, until they actually adopt a kid from the States or some other place that isn't in Africa or Asia. Adopting kiddies from Africa and Asia can come off as indulging in a trend...adopting a poor kid from nowheresville USA or Ecuador somehow implies that you're genuine in your actions. But Diggle and Ollie, They give each other a run for their money. I love that.
-The family thing was somewhat okay I guess. I loved what it did for Ollie, making him more aware of his status with Moira, more aware of broadening his horizons with saving the city, and seeing some of his "victims" as actual people.
-Yeah the flashbacks weren't really necessarily in this episode.
Great review!!!!!!
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Definitely needs to be Oggle.
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Can I be such a huge geek that I was the only one to notice this?
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One thing you guys left out is that Thea's childhood's nickname is revealed to be "Speedy", and Speedy is the name of Green Arrow's sidekick. So I think the connection is kinda obvious.

The question now is: Will Willa Holland look good in leather? Will she be able to pull off the martial arts moves and archery?

Because I can't see it.
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I'm fairly sure Noel mentioned it briefly in the review for the first episode :) But besides that I agree with you - I can't really see her pull that off either!
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I did indeed, in the notes section of the review.
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First of all - love these reviews! Keep up the good work :)

About the Royal Flush Gang: Besides the obvious irrationalness of wearing very recognizable masks that can tie you to a whole string of crimes if you get caught, I really liked them. It made a lot of sense to have a story that showed some of the impact Oliver's dad's actions had on the city in a more comprehensible way. And I really liked that this showed that it's not always black and white with crime, not even in Starling City. It's not always just bad, bad CEO's doing bad things to good people. I'm very glad that Diggle might really have opened up Oliver's eyes to this matter.

I can't remember exactly how I got this impression - which really annoys me - but I've definitely gotten the impression from earlier episodes that Thea has a bit of a crush on Tommy. So to me it seemed like a natural progression, given his talk with her this episode, that she began to hope there might be something there. But again, I can't refer to any specific scenes or anything, so it could also just be my mind jumping to conclusions since the "I'm a teen and I have a crush on my big bro's bestie" is probably THE MOST used storyline in anything involving a teenager. So I hope that now Tommy has told Thea how he feels (or not feels, I suppose), the writers can move on to finding an actual purpose for keeping Thea around.

Was I the only one who found Tommy's gala gesture surprisingly sweet? I'm beginning to be on Team Torel/Lammy! Laurel and Oliver seems to be all about hanging on to the past when they are together (and maybe understandably so), where Laurel and Tommy seems to mostly be about having fun in the present. Tommy seems to be genuinely interested in making Laurel happy, but he's just now learning how to do so. Up until now he has been trying to make her happy with what works for him (parties, dinners, flying away to wherever) but he's now realizing that it's not the way. You go, Tommys first tiny personality development!

Even though I am so excited every time we get to see flashbacks from the island, this week really disappointed me. It's good we now know that it was in his (probably) most hungry, desperate, lonely and confused moment that Oliver discovered the hidden writing in his father's notebook. But I could definitely have been without the whole daddy-ghost/hallucination thing. How many weeks are we going to keep watching Oliver lying around in that cave being cold and hungry? Yeah, he had an awful time, he almost died. He wish he was dead, so he didn't have to be forced to kill poor innocent birds with his bare hands. We get it! Please move on to revealing the mysteries of the mysterious island now. I'm sure there's plenty of them, no need to hold back.
Also, what about the page Oliver threw into the fire before he figured out it was the most important notebook he'd ever hold in his hands? Are there some villain-CEO's that won't get punished because of this? Or was it by an odd coincident exactly the page where Mr. Queen did his doodles in invisible ink?
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Glad you're enjoying the reviews. :)

You're not the only one to say that they got the impression about Thea's crush on Tommy, but I really cannot recall a scene that hinted at it any way. I mean, there's Tommy comment in the pilot about Thea being hot, but I think that was about it on their potential interest in one another prior to this episode.
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I'm just about through with this show. The characters and acting are just so dull and lifeless. I'll tune in next week but it would take a gargantuan improvement to keep me watching.
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Aside from the cards, I felt the gang's getup was more remniscent (again) of the "Nolanverse," right along the lines of the quite similarly-colored clown masks during the bank robbery scene at the beginning of "The Dark Knight."

Oliver's attempt to stop the guard from using lethal force near the end showed a step in the right direction for his character, as nudged along by Dig.

The father flashback scene didn't work for me either.

Something that was a bit of a fun throwback to the older extended DCU were the scenes where Dig was Alfred to Oliver's Bruce by whispering to him, followed by a quick exit. However, while that worked on the deliberately campy 60's Batman TV show, it really can't work here in that same manner for long without becoming implausible--after all, the people aren't deaf, but Dig didn't see fit to talk in code when taking Oliver aside. Again, fun for an episode, but that should get modified quickly. After all, Dig is ex-military, and not Gomer Pyle's military either.
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I too thought that Thea's sudden crush on Tommy came out of nowhere. As soon as Tommy asked her for advice about wooing girls, I saw that plot line coming, and I spent a good minute or two trying to remember previous episodes and whether this crush had been hinted at before... and I don't think so. It made me feel like I missed an episode or something. Seems like something the writers just threw in or something to make Tommy's plot line in this episode a bit more interesting.

Aside from that, the episode was pretty good and entertaining. Unfortunately, Diggle is still the only character that I particularly like. I kind of softened up on Tommy in this one, but not enough to actually care about him. There's something about Laurel (or Cassidy) that bugs me but I can't put my finger on it.

Most importantly: What kind of lunatic attempts to eat a hamburger with a knife and fork?! How would that even work without totally disassembling it?! Eating a Snickers bar with a knife and fork seems completely sane compared to this.
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I liked this episode. I was glad to see them branch off from the villainous CEO of the week thing they were trending into. I also liked the Oliver/Dig dynamic that broadened his horizons. I liked that he seemed more willing to give Reston an out rather then just package him up for the police. Being regretful that he didn't take his job offer.

I hope they evolve that dynamic a little bit for the list as well. I think Oliver (and maybe the audience too) are to believe that if your on the List your guilty, i.e. no mitigating factors, no false accusations, etc.

I really liked the Oliver/Moira dynamic in this episode. I think it did a good job of hitting the notes necessary to have the scene payoff in the end. You just know that its going to be a great source of drama once secrets and lies begin to get revealed. Its also quite clear that the actors are very capable of delivering there. I'm very excited for more Oliver and Moira dynamics. Seeing as how he burned several pages before knowing what was on them logic dictates that he may not have the whole list or even the start of the list which would have provided him context.

The fanboy frustration that is growing larger and larger for me is why are all of these other DCU cities retaining their names; Coast City, Keystone City, they have name dropped nearly one an episode. Yet why did they rename Star City to Starling City? Its frustrating me to the point of is there a master plan here? Will the city at some point get renamed Star City? Will there be some epic reason to do so? If not WTF. They clearly know their DC cities, why did they misspell this one.
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I've been mulling the Starling City thing. I can only assume it was some sort of legal issue, or someone at DC Entertainment asked them to change it so the show could occur on like Earth-29 or something.
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That was my first thought but I seem to recall that Smallville dropped the name Star City often, when that shows Ollie came and went. I think they went to Star City at one point. Besides DC has been using the Star City name, at least in periodical fiction, for 60+ years. This is just going to be one of things that always nags me, gets my inner fanboy right in the gut everytime a character says "Starling City". Oh well.
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I've enjoyed this episode. Nothing outstanding, sure, but it was good quality stuff all along. Once again Arrow made a good job balancing out the action and the more character heavy scenes.
I felt like pretty much everyone got a chance to shine (okay, maybe Laurel not so much). Diggle remained as good as ever. Tommy was really likeable - and that's rather big for me, seeing as I've been indifferent to him so far. Thea and Oliver shared some fun scenes. Moira continued being more interesting than I would've expected. I kind of wish we could spend a little more time on Laurel's laywer friend, but that probably won't happen. And yay for Oliver's "personal internet researcher"!

The expanded backstory for the bank robbing gang actually surprised me. I just thought they would make for a quick, inconsequential filler, and I was given considerably more than that. I'd say that it worked pretty well for the show (even though I do see how the comic book version seems superior).
Not much happened back on the island, but at least we learned something about the notebook.

Also, with regards to Thea's crush on Tommy - up until now I've been pretty convinced that we had been given at least a hint before; which is why I've found the whole situation fairly natural. I might be just imagining things, though - would need to rewatch the previous episodes closely.
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I felt that the episode was a bit uneven at best. A positive is that Oliver has expanded his mission to help the city away from that list. One thing that the show never got into is what Oliver would do when he had worked through the list, would he quit and have a normal life or would he always be seeking another mission, much in the same way as Bruce Wayne in The Dark Knight Trilogy. Diggle has given Oliver a chance to go beyond his narrow minded ways and help on a new level. He has given him a new mission.

Like previous characters and villains have been depicted, I was not a fan of the Royal Flush Gang here. For one, the costumes, while real world, just did not work. They never played up the playing card motif at all. I don't see the reason why there was no Ten when it would have been easy to throw a younger sister in. One thing that was positive about it was that it played up the family angst aspect, though not as well as the version I remember from Batman Beyond.

The rest of the episode was a wash really. The Thea and Tommy angle seemed forced and out of left field, not to mention a stupid storyline.

But hey, lets look at one thing, Oliver did not directly kill anyone this week. Sure, the King died but it was not Oliver who did it. Tonight, Oliver was in true crime fighting mode, even used a bit of trick arrows when he stopped the bank job.
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Me just venting: I wish they would be more subtle with DC Universe characters. Less comic-booky, plz. Deadshot's face gear looked bulky and Borgish...& Deathstroke's mask? Grrr. too bright & silly. ...& the royal flush scenes made me cringe. Don't get me wrong, I got a high tolerance for silly, seeing as how it's a comic book show, but Don't let the trick arrows get stupid tricky, don't let the villains look so super villainy & don't let the bad guys off with a wounding...get back to killing a few per week or something.
Vent over.
Not my favorite episode, but I liked it well enough. It didn't suck or anything like that, it just rubbed me the wrong way this week.
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I think they're being subtle-ish. Deadshot looked odd because that eye-scope would serve no practical purpose due to its sheer size, but I was okay with Deathstroke's mask and the RFG-inspired group's masks I've just resigned myself to them as shout-outs to fans.

Were you okay with China White's stark white hair?
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I'm really glad they toned it down, but my fear about DCUniverse cross-pollination in Arrow comes from my favoring of the comics Iron Age characterization they started with & the influence that will be put on the show later when it comes time to market the Justice League franchise.
...Makes me shudder just thinking about it
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Hmmm. To be fair, they did significantly tone down the RFG's appearances. People dressed as playing cards would've been really silly...

If it helps, I'm not optimistic about Firefly's looking interesting (to be fair, he's not that interesting in the comic either), but we'll see how things go when they double-down on the comic villainy after the winter break with a big-Big Bad coming in.

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Honestly, no. Not really. To me, it looked like what it was: a cheap wig that lessened the production value of the scenes she was in. I'm all for fan shout-outs, but there are so many things on the comic page that will never translate on screen without looking stupid.
An example where the show got subtlety right was having Laurel work for CNRI & mention something in passing about her wearing fishnets.That's as far as the the Black Canary comic nod should ever go. Where I'm convinced they get it absolutely wrong is when they have to specifically spell it out to the audience with props like masks, gadgets & trick arrows. I think it's just too much a slippery slope for the show to stand on this early.
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"Get back to killing a few per week". Almost bust a gut on that one. Clearly our heroes need to be closer to serial killers than supermen, imo.
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Yeah, I'd prefer that he continue to kill, but I expect that Diggle (or maybe the GF) will soften him up so the more squeamish viewers will like Arrow more. Shame, but...y'know.
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It doesn't actually need to be a 'few' every week. I was just picking a high number out of the air. I'd be fine with just one murder per week, honestly.
I think it's important to continue the anti-hero trend in comic shows & movies because it helps continue to break a long outdated stereotype that costumed vigilantes can't/shouldn't kill.
That limitation was ignored decades ago in the comic industry & is a silly barrier to be restricted by in the movies & TV now.
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Less teen drama, more action and blood plz
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There's only one teenage character on the show from which any teen drama would come...so you're firmly in the anti-Thea camp then...?
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Strangly I thing Laurel and Tommy works better together than Laurel and Oliver. Amell and Cassidy simply doesn't have a lot of chemistry. I don't really understand all the critcism about Thea though. She's a lost teenager whose family doesn't care about, so I do expect her to act badly and yet I think Willa Holland does a great job in order not to turn her character into a stereotyped teenager. She has good and bad moments as well and it seems pretty well balanced until now. Besides I'd say Willa Holland and Amell have a great chemistry and so for now the real "useless" character in the show seems to be Laurel.
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I agree with you almost entirely, I don't think Cassidy and Arnell have very good chemistry and initially I thought it was Arnell and too much commitment to the steely eye thing...then he falls into the easy brother/sister relationship with Thea (which when they are together, she is more together, I like the lost teenager thought) and then he totally relaxes when around Diggle. Then you see something between him and the IT girl and you are like okay. And then I don't think they anticipated Tommy and Laurel would be such a good duo (a thought I am just having right now...how Laurel becomes Black Canary is that one of these random bad guys kills Tommy and as that action affects them both, Oliver is willing to let her in on his secret).
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I think you're right, Stephen Amell's acting is "flexible" to be nice. I like the actor, I think he is very charismatic and I think he is a good choice for the role but I also think the writers are still trying to "define" the character and so he seems a bit lost sometimes. I don't think they're gonna turn Laurel into Black Canary...in fact I suspect we won't see a lot of "super heros" in the show because it wouldn't work with the "realistic" vibe the writers try to stick to. It would have worked in Smallville but here if I see Laurel in a costume i'm gonna laugh.

And speaking of sexy Morgan Freeman...I mean the IT girl, what was that about? I felt like the scene made no sense. Why would Oliver have to ask her about some random intels about a guy when he has supercomputers to do his investigations? Maybe I missed something here but it seemed like someone said "hey don't forget to put the blond girl in the episode because we need to remember the audience she exist for when we're gonna start making her date Oliver in a few weeks."
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"...keep as many of its main characters as possible involved with a plot of some sort, also do an action story, and have all of those elements complement one another in some way."
I think that summarizes the episode nicely!
I think Amell 's got not only a pretty face and a frakking amazing upper torso, but... what do you know: he can ACT!!!
"I should add 'Personal internet researcher for Oliver Queen' to my job title... happily, I mean."
Really like techie gal a lot... she has the right sense of humour... but... why is she so good looking? She looks like a super hero in disguise...
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No idea who those guys where as I am not that deep into comic books. I enjoy superhero stuff but only if it's live action like here. Here those bank robbers did what they where supposed to: Support some development of Ollie and Green Arrow.

I particularly liked how Diggle brought Ollie to see that there is more to his quest than stopping CEOs.

Did anyone else noticed the Microsoft product placement fail in this episode? When Emma did her thing on that Asus Laptop (around 15-20 Minutes into the episode) it first showed the Windows 8 GUI (the one used to be called "Metro"). She does something by keyboard (presumably press the Windows key) and it vanishes, showing a desktop. A desktop showing that round Windows symbol as a Start button we know from Windows 7 in the taskbar. That wouldn't have been there had it been a real Windows 8. Also a working Windows 8 GUI disappears with an animation if you change to the desktop. Nice try ;-)
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This episode dropped the ball on handling the villains - not once do we actually get to know them, we see a little of the patriarch and how his troubles led him to a life of crime, and we get a token scene with the family bickering about one more score, but otherwise it's just stuff that happens, they aren't the Royal Flush Gang, they are just faceless criminals who didn't do a single interesting thing.

Diggle played an angry, black Alfred to Ollie's Batman and it felt easy enough, but limited for Diggle as a character. At least the cop who was shot point blank in the back multiple times magically survived because Ollie's money moved him to a different hospital.

Laurel was a weak spot in this episode for me, her writing showed more of that CW cliche I was talking about last week, here she and her co-worker acted like idiot teen girls talking about Tommy's assistance, and then played "belle of the ball" until finally pulling out of the nosedive at the end having a real conversation with Tommy about Carter Bowen.

This episode had a flashback about a hallucenation, that's gotta be a new one. Kind of a whiny, self-pity hallucenation, to boot, and one that seems to be trying to set up a lot of Ollie's foundation of the turn in his personality to who he is now, but honestly it felt pretty thin and weird.

The water in the background of the Olliecave seems to be cooling for the crazy sparks that are always flying despite it being a *closed* steel plant.

There have been other Royal Flush gangs, but they were always more interesting than these guys, you're absolutely right that they shouldn't have bothered calling out that comic group if it was going to be this thin. I would think to outsiders these were just a generic gang of bank robbers, and I bet only some of those folks picked up on the fact that they were an actual family.

No callout for Carter Bowen being played by Hicks from Alphas with a shaved face and grown out hair? That drove me CRAZY trying to figure out where I recognized him from.
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(I did the same thing with the comment system, don't worry).

I had no clue that Carter was Warren Christie. None. I did like 4 or 5 episodes of Alphas and then left (I heard it got better after I stopped watching, so you're welcome) and as such I did not recognize the guy at all. It wasn't until I saw Gislef's comment this morning that I sort of recognized him. But that hair and the lack of stubble really threw me, as I imagine it did everyone.

The sparks I noticed a couple of weeks ago and simply assumed they were part of the reconstruction of the place as a club. It still doesn't explain the water!

We'll have to agree to disagree about the show's version of the RFG as "faceless." I think they're certainly more fleshed out than Deadshot and China White (admittedly, she's in for multiple episodes) both have been (well, Derek is anyway, Kyle less so). So the use of the RFG markings is really just a bit of fan service (or fan disservice as the execution may be).
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So the bankrobbers have roots besides being silly joker knockoffs? I mean really playing cards and bank robbing? They know we all watched Batman, right?
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Yep. Long history, multiple incarnations, typically fight the Justice League. I'm not sure that the family dynamic was always a part of the comics BUT it was a key part of the gang in their Batman Beyond version, which is probably where a lot of folks who may not have read comics were first exposed to them (and they worked really well on Batman Beyond, too).
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I actually don't like the Laurel and Tommy storyline at all. It seems forced to me. It is all about how Tommy wants to give up his old ways to be with Laurel, but have we even really seen Tommy being that much of a womanizer? I feel like if we had seen Tommy being that way for more than the pilot, while wanting laurel, but then deciding to change his ways for her, it would actually be effective. As it has been done, it seems whiny and forced to me.
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I am going with this new theory I have...lets start viewing Tommy as cannon fodder. Just as he and Laurel get serious, some bad guy (maybe one Laurel is prosecuting) kills Tommy to get to her, she wants to go all punisher, and Oliver and Dig stop her and introduce her to their world. Perhaps she goes away for a little while and comes back as the Black Canary.
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I feel like with Tommy the writers keep telling us how cool and awesome and what a playboy partier he is, but then I look at him and I'm just like "Nahhh..."
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I don't see 'whiny' but I can see 'forced.' You make a good point about Tommy's time with the ladies being told but not shown, so it becomes more a character detail from his past, but difficult to buy into without some evidence with our own eyes.
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Worst episode of the lot, unfortunately .. right after the best episode. A few things I had a problem with:
- Surely, there could have been a more elegant way of telling us about the names on the book. Those island flashbacks were the worst!
- I really liked the Thea - Oliver scenes at the beginning. For the first time I kind of enjoyed Thea ... until the writers decided that she needed to make a u-turn and start regressing at the end of the episode. Disappointing.
- I'm totally against Laurel and Tommy being together ... they are a terrible couple.
Hope for more of the same from the first 5 episodes next week. I still like this show and will carry on watching .. but a few more episodes like this and they are getting TerraNova'd or Revolution'd!!
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I thought that the reason Thea came onto Tommy was to try to get him to give up on Laurel, who she wants to be with Oliver and that she didn't really like him, but was just pretending to try a turn him away from laurel.
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I must confess, I had that thought with sober Thea that she knew Oliver still liked Laurel and didn't want the Laurel and Tommy thing to start up again. I am not sure what drunk Thea was thinking, if any.
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I found it awesome how Oliver finally got caught off before he could finish his stupid phrase "you've failed this city". lol made me laugh.
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I can't wait for him to pull that out when Dig is around, I imagine the writers thought he needed one (probably didn't quite realize exactly how scary Arnell is as Arrow that he doesn't need it) and now at least they have the out, he says it, Dig is there with him, bites his lip and then they are having a beer later and he puts on a voice and says it and starts laughing hysterically and Oliver is all offended until he starts in too and that is the end of an episode.
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no one has a problem with how Laurel is whoring around:D She acts so high and mighty with Tommy and how she doesn't want his family's money and help,yet she whores her dance to that doctor,because he....WHAT NOW...yes HE HAS MONEY.

Crimes(in series and real life) are gonna be there as long as there is money "in play". No matter how many powerful criminals you take down, rich will still be rich and poor will stay poor.
If Ollie went and said,I offer you job, new place to stay and repay you what has been taken away from you(and other workers that worked for his dad,why stop just with Derek),then maybe Derek would completly gave up on robery.


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Oh, no, I picked up on that weird Laurel 180 turn. I just didn't find an organic way to add it in, and forgot about it in the notes. Some of it is, I think, just contextual with how she feels about Tommy (who she isn't sure what to do with, assumes he's still horndogging) against how she feels about Carter (who she probably never sees). But the overall point, if you're running a legal aid program, you have to be willing schmooze (I wouldn't say "whore her dance").
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yeah I know they have history(Tommy and Laurel) and I agree that she might not see The Doctor( :D ) that much,but what right she has then, to talk about behind his back so negatively about him, when all she wants from him, is his money.
Let me tell you, that girl is no nun:D I bet she gave alot of dances at that party:D
We can call her going for money scmoozing,but if now she gets together with Tommy and some episodes later, they start with their baby-momma-drama break up,Tommy will say to her: " You didn't mind it, when I bought you things, throw you gala fundraiser,etc....you dirty schmoozer! " :D
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I meant to mention this in the notes, but completely forgot: Is anyone else reading the Arrow digital comic that DC is putting out? It's been passingly interesting (can't complain for 99 cents), and in the most recent issue, Oliver and Diggle go to Moscow to strike a name off the list.
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I'm living overseas at the moment, so I haven't even heard of it. I'll have to check into that - thanks for the heads up!
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I don't know if they're region-locked or anything, but I'm reading them on Comixology. http://www.comixology.com/Arrow-2012/comics-series/8643

They're computer screen friendly as the pages are done in landscape, not portrait.
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I read it online:D...got first 4 issues atm
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I haven't read the comics nor have I heard about the Royal Flush Gang. It was odd that there were just 3 masks (ace, king, and jack). Though fine, the queen wasn't wearing a mask. Still doesn't add up to a royal flush. At first glance, I kind of just thought, "oh, just typical bank robbers wearing masks".

Yeah, that thing with Thea and Tommy was unexpected due to lack of signs from previous episodes. Though their dialogue about Thea's advice led me to her out-of-nowhere crush on Tommy.

I still enjoyed the episode. Good to see a lot more involvement from Diggle. BTW, is he back to being Oliver's bodyguard?
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I think Diggle's back to bodyguarding, but he's also a personal assistant now! Hopefully he received a raise..
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I had to wonder what Moira must have been thinking when Dig comes up with the phone in hand and tells Oliver something and they take off, like, exactly what am I paying this guy for?
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I really liked the Royal Flush gang here and the way the plot complemented Oliver's story. For one thing, the story had a ring of truth to it. People who have lost everything become desperate, and desperate people don't always make good decisions. Also, I love the actor who played the father - he's a great guest star on a lot of shows. Here's the thing about Arrow - yes, it's comic based. But clearly they've decided to take a more reality-based approach, and I'm okay with that. The way that they took the idea of the Royal Flush gang and made them more real was excellent IMO - good storytelling.

This episode jives with the current economic crisis too - people lose jobs, crime follows. Diggle made an excellent point in this episode about Oliver's focus being too narrow. I honestly can't say enough about how much I like Diggle! Seriously, he's one of the best characters on any show I watch. In just a few episodes, they've fleshed him out in such a way that I care what happens to him - a lot. The practice session between him and Oliver was great, and the way he tricked Oliver into getting involved in the robberies showed that he has an understanding of Oliver's character. If they made a Diggle spin-off, I'd probably watch it.

On to other characters - so happy to see Tommy back! I like Laurel in scenes with him - they play off each other very well. At this point, consider me team Tommy/Laurel (whatever we would call that lol.) They have great chemistry together and I enjoy their scenes. Cassidy is not much of an actress when it comes to angst, but I liked her much better in this episode. I also loved seeing Felicity back - she and Oliver have good chemistry just in the few scenes we've been shown, so I want to see that developed more. Plus, I think Felicity's comic relief would also serve to balance out Oliver's darkness.

As for Thea, I don’t think Thea latching onto Tommy in this episode was about her crushing on him – I feel like it’s more that she’s looking to latch onto people to fill the void, sort of like Moira was latching onto family to fill the void left by Walter. Thea feels alienated from her family so maybe she temporarily saw Tommy as someone to fill the void - I didn't get the sense that there was real emotion behind it, but I also thought there wasn't supposed to be. I agree about the drunken scene at the benefit gala though – they could have played it differently and more believably. I did love the scenes between Thea and Oliver, and I'm really happy to see more of the family dynamic developed here. Oliver is going to need that balance to pull him back from the edge. He's walking a fine line with regard to his humanity as the resident vigilante.

I also agree that the development between Oliver and Moira was badly needed, and it pushed them forward. They also play off each other very well in scenes, and that ending scene at the diner did feel like it was earned. I was happy NOT to see Detective Lance in this episode. As much as I like Blackthorne, I really hope we see less of him in future. Barring that, they really need to overhaul his character because he is a sucking void of angst and it's coming across too strongly.

Other things I liked - the trick arrow was a nice touch. The jokes about how behind Oliver is on pop culture were funny. Not crazy about the flashbacks this week, but since they pushed the story ahead in the current time, I didn't mind so much. Question: the scene when Oliver was leaving the brunch and walking through the entrance hall seemed to have jumpy cuts, and my attention kept being drawn to a photograph on the table. Was there something important about that picture or was that just weird editing? All in all, great episode. This is becoming one of my favorite shows to watch each week!
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My RFG screed was purposefully couched in fanboy-itis just so it was clear I was being pointlessly critical about the reinterpretation. The story still works around them, and that's ultimately what matters.

Taurel? Larmmy? LARMMY! Team Larmmy. (I'm terrible at this.)

I'm totally on board with Diggle as one of the season's breakout characters. I do think the show's given that character the most care (aside from Oliver, of course) in concept and execution, and he's providing that guidance to develop Oliver's social conscience.

I see where you're coming from on the Thea/Tommy thing, but I'm not entirely convinced. It plays, to me, very much like a teenager crush, but a very sudden one, including how she responds to it upon realizing that gala wasn't for her.

It was likely weird editing/cinematography. The show's not exactly up to par on editing yet. It's getting better, but even in basic crosscutting, it took Derek an odd amount of time to leave that safe and arrive on the bank floor.
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Team Merlance? I'm not so good at this either lol. I watched Smallville, so I'd probably like a more comic-centric take on Arrow as well. I used to read my brother's DC and Marvel comics long ago, so I have at least a passing familiarity with the mythos behind the comic characters. Either way, I love shows or movies featuring comic characters (not that crappy Superman re-make a few years ago. I still shudder about it - fingers crossed for the next one!) The current Batman series is a particular favorite of mine, and Arrow seems patterned after Batman Begins. The grittier approach matches Oliver's vigilante persona for sure.

Thanks for the digital comic link - hopefully it's not region locked. That's been the bane of my existence since moving away from the US. That and being out of the loop on pop culture. I feel Oliver's pain there...
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I haven't read the comics, but I thought the Royal Flush Gang was inconsequential to everything else going on in this episode. They reminded me of The Dark Knight's awesome bank heist, but I had the polar opposite reaction here. I didn't care for them.

I agree that the show did the transformation of Oliver trying to expand his horizons really well. Many of the characters became more likable. Kudos for making even Oliver's mom likable in that cheesy, but honest scene. The chemistry between all the actors is palpable, except between Oliver and Laurel. Thea's character was progressing so well and they drop this. The outburst came out of nowhere and was quite jarring. Also, I really really like Felicity. Wish they would give her more screentime.
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This sounds so strange but here was my internal discussion during the last scene...I am so impressed how this scene could be very cheesy and cause me to groan like on a lot of CW shows but this is actually making me smile...wait...this is Moira, she is truly going to screw with Oliver's head....this is all to say, wow, this show is good. I am not comic book familiar with the Green Arrow or anything, but I liked the Royal Flush gang idea a lot especially to tie it into Oliver's own issues. I like that they might just be making the bad guys more real so that they will really draw out that general conflict we talked about initially about Arrow killing people and make it really stark.

On a totally CW front..is anyone else hoping they fly in the face of the comics and make absolutely nothing happen between Oliver and Laurel other than a partnership if/when she becomes Black Canary? I like the tech girl and her interactions with him a lot better (so, I guess, Dig, I am looking at you to encourage that relationship more than the ones old Oliver would have pursued).
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I was really happy with that last scene. It's not only that the show earned that moment, but continued to build dynamics, like Moira using a knife and fork for the fork and Oliver laughing, good-naturedly, at her. (And him also unwittingly saying, "It's okay to get your hands dirty." BOY HOWDY.)

Right, right on the Oliver/Laurel thing. It may or may not happen. I'm curious, based on the promo, how things are going to play with the new lady (being purposefully vague here; I know full well who she is) and if we end up with a little star-crossed lovers thing.
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You mean Huntress and whatever her real world identity is? I have wondered if the show has any desire to make a comic book bad guy into a good guy just to really throw everything for a loop. I don't know that it would be her (the Revenge comparisons are just funny now, you bring in a woman who is just a more violent version of Emily Thorne.)
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I cannot stress how much I like that Arrow crafted the episode in this way. It was by no means a complicated structure, but the way individual plots echoed each other made them richer and more interesting, and that's exactly the sort of thing that the episode (and the show) needed. I'm not suggesting that every episode must be set up this way, but it'll help the show balance its action and melodrama beats more effectively. Damn, I thought my English 101 teacher was picky. I bet that there are not 10 shows on tv with this complex and rich a storyline and 1 of them, Alphas, may not be renewed.
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Am I being picky? I've felt that Arrow's been a tad flat-footed in balancing its various stories, and this week is a positive step in that direction, as I laid out. My apologies for bringing back memories of your English 101 teacher. ;)
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I think what we were more seeing is, we have 13 episodes to do this all in and then as we are approaching, I am going to take a wild stab, they had received word of their full season pick up (and started thinking of a big bad to appear right at that 13 episode mark...I can't wait for him to show up, I have missed him on Fringe).
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Maybe not, but so much tv is dumbed down for Amercan audiences and I really believe that this show has some of the best writing on tv. I admit the island portion was a little off but I loved this take on the Royal Flush Gang and like the way it keeps the main theme (Olivers struggle with the rich partners?enemies? of his father.
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The Arrow series is still being awesome with its real life action, drama, and even romance. It’s a nice break from Oliver and Diggle hunting down the corrupt. Personally, I’m glad that the CW is continuing to make a comic book series. So far I’ve been watching all the episodes with my co-workers at DISH on our lunch break, and we can’t get enough. I’ve been recording all the episodes on my Hopper DVR from DISH so that I can watch all the episodes again when I get home from work. I like having a DVR because I can watch my favorite shows more than once. So far this series is awesome, and I can’t wait for the next episode!
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This show is getting better and better.
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Not having read the comic, I only know the Royal Flush Gang from that episode of Young Justice. But yea, last nights episode was wait for it......legend..ary.
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Diggle and Ollie together - magic! As for the Royal Flush Gang, I've never read the comics so I have no previous affiliation with them, and I actually found the story of this family falling apart and how that related to the Queen's quite interesting. Another father trying to the right thing, but allowing too many outside forces to influence what he's going to do for his kids. The two fathers are so similar, Robert's family included the pathetic attention grabbing son (so glad he grew out of that), his wife the controlling and manipulating bitch, and his abandoned daughter. Derek took a different route, but got the same results. HIs oldest son was a mess and a killer, his wife was controlling and manipulative and the younger son was abandoned. Both fathers were willing to die for their sons but neither was ever really willing to be a father to their sons. Good lesson for father's. Heck, in this episode alone Diggle was better at being a father than Robert ever was (at least of what we've seen so far) - he was caring, he was attentive, he didn't let up, and he helped Oliver down the correct path.
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Glad someone else noticed that they forgot to turn the tap off in the Arrow-cave. It's one of those things once you know it's there it becomes distracting, Oliver can set up his hi-tech layer but he can't find a wrench to sort the water out?
The Royal Flush gang was a bit odd; if you were going to put the gang into this show then this was the best way to do it, but if the hockey masks had just been plain white would anyone have noticed or would it have changed the plot one bit?
Massive improvement for Thea this week. I think that is in part because they spent so much of the first few episode setting up the Oliver\Diggle relationship, that there wasn't much room for the rest of characters unless it was vital to that weeks plot. With the "dynamic duo" now set up, it gives everyone else a little more room to play in.

One last thing, not even a hint of Ollie possibly killing anyone this week; take that Quentin
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I noticed the water last week but didn't really care then. Seeing it this week made me care in that "why do I care" sort of way. They even do the audio for it, so it just becomes really weird.

And, yes, the painted masks ended up being an Easter Egg/Shout-out sort of thing as opposed to a major plot point. But, you know, if they had kept the family dynamics, we'd likely be asking, "Why didn't they signal that they were basing this on the RFG?"
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Loved this episode and Diggle!!!
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This episode was very good for me and I am glad that we had the chance to see more Tommy again. Personaly I like "Speedy" very much and I have a lot of fun watching her character just as much as I like Diggle, but her crush on Tommy felt off for me too since we had no hint about it. But a guess it makes sence to have a crush on your older brother's hot best friend. Personaly for this episode I wanted more development on the "What happened on the Island" story but I guess I'll have to wait. I can't wait for the next episode!
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Any time Thea, Tommy, or Laurel appeared I wanted to scream. Is it just me or are ALL of these characters unbearable?? Laurel's holier-than-thou 'tude is getting worse, Thea is regressing again, and Tommy is a bore. I can only hope that they'll soon all be killed by an evil CEO to help fuel Oliver's rampaging. The only part that pulled me from my boredom induced coma was Thea puking in the alley. Karma'd!

Also Oliver's island flashbacks were the worst. Did they really just break up a two minute dream convo into four different scenes? C'mon, I at least wanted some Karate Kid shenanigans! Mr. Miyagi didn't even show up :(

I really do like/possibly LIKE like this show, but this episode had me wondering why.
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I haven't found a single character likable yet. And I keep trying.
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Yup, so far, Diggle is the only character I actually like. Everybody else is just... there. Including Oliver.
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I like Diggle and post-island Oliver, but that's about it. I guess the cop too, but that's probably just because of the actor.
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see I can deal with tommy and thea being a bit unbearable. well, thea was making progress and then regressed for plot sake. Tommy I still don't like but I like a little bit better because to show Laurel that he likes her he is trying so maybe its just all groundwork for if/when he turns evil. Yeah the Laurel thing, I'm with ya on that. She's supposed to have chemistry with Ollie and Tommy and she doesn't. She's supposed to be holier than thou and yet she doesn't mind shameless;y flirting with a guy because he gave her cause money. I just argh... I missed Chinease archer this week too. I mean how did he go from chinease military to stranded on an island? Is he the one who teaches ollie russian? But I gotta ask... did you really hate the scenes with Ollie and Diggle? the progress that ollie's making there kinda made up for the rest.
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Karma'd.....lol
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I wonder if Carter Bowen is any relation to Carter Bowfry? He was the guy who trained Lana in fighting skills over on Smallville in the 8th season. Folks seemed to think he might be Carter Hall (Hawkman), until the real Hawkman showed up.
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I suppose if you're going to have Hawkman on the series, you could do worse than Warren Christie. If they can tear him away from Alphas. Still you've got a guy that is everything Oliver isn't, has a rivalry with him, and likes to help the helpless.
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I think they'll shoehorn in "Carter Hall" the same way they did the Royal Flush Gang. Or Tommy Merlyn = Merlyn the evil comic book archer. They'll do a name-share and maybe Carter will become some kind of rival to Oliver (can't imagine Warren Christie becoming a recurring unless Alphas doesn't get picked up), but I doubt he'll ever don a pair of wings and grab a mace.
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I didn't know what to do with Carter. In my head I was all, "Shouldn't his last name be Hall?" but I don't know that Hawkman fits in here.
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This was a good solid hour of television. The story kept my interest, the episode had lots of action, it was pretty entertaining and it continued to develop the plot and characters. Theres really not much more I could ask for. I don't think it was perfect and it definitley had its flaws, but it didn't take away from my enjoyment of the episode at all.

Looking forward to the next episode.
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So, are we to gather that Thea is destined to become one of Green Arrow's junior vigilantes, as her nickname is Speedy? And was Carter Bowen way too interested in Oliver's interest in helping those in need, or was I reading too much into that exchange?
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It's Coast City, not Coastal City. I think they mentioned Keystone, but not it's sister city Central City. And they also tossed in a reference to Silver Age writer John Broome.
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The Coastal thing, completely a typo and the result of a timeshare ad running while I was typing (sad that I can remember it).
I have no excuse about the Central/Keystone thing. Even my notes have it correct. Eugh. I'll get it fixed, and thank you for the catch.
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No problem. :)
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You know what, this show is alright...
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As much as I was looking forward to this show, it is already better than I expected it to be.
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I've been hoping to see more of Diggle's influence on the way Oliver handles himself, so I'm very happy with that part of the episode. Also, the fact that Oliver is going to go after criminals that aren't on the list is a great direction for the show to take. I do like the whole conspiracy angle, and am looking forward to seeing where that leads, but this will lead to some much needed variety in the show, and will also give us a more full look at the crime in Starling City. And, as for the character drama, I couldn't agree more. I love the way they gave each character their own story in this episode, and outside of the odd twist of Thea having a crush on Tommy, they did a pretty good job with it, especially the Oliver/Moira scenes, and the mixture of those stories and the bank robbers story was handled well. Hopefully this is a sign that they're learning how to mix the action and drama more naturally.
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Did Oliver rip out and throw a page completely into the fire before realizing the magic ink?
If so, the names on that page are quite lucky!
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That was hallucination!
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