Ben Edlund Is Leaving Supernatural to Rejoin Eric Kripke at Revolution

Words I've used to describe NBC's Revolution during its Season 1 run: "terrible," "absent-minded," "turd-ish." Words I'm now using to describe NBC's Revolution heading into Season 2: "promising," "full of potential," and "exciting." Why the change of heart? No, I haven't seen the finale in advance and somehow come around because the show righted the ship by killing every single character and starting from scratch. I'm excited for Season 2 because of news out of Australia that says Ben Edlund, Supernatural's most celebrated writer and executive producer, is leaving the CW show to help out his old pal and Supernatural creator Eric Kripke at Revolution. It may not mean much to you, but this is a 50-ton bombshell dropped on my head!

Word of Edlund's new job came from actor Misha Collin's mouth, according to the great folks and Supernatural know-it-alls over at Winchester Family Business; Collins reportedly announced the news while attending the All Hell Breaks Loose Supernatural conference down under. Edlund, who's also written for The Venture Bros., Firefly, Angel, and The Tick, is responsible for some of Supernatural's best and most creative episodes, including "The End," "The French Mistake," and "Wishful Thinking" (the porno-addicted teddy bear? That's Edlund's baby). 

Supernatural will survive just fine without Edlund, but Revolution should get a huge boost with him as it looks to improve creatively after its dull first season. And it's not just Edlund who will help things out in Season 2. It was previously announced that Farscape and Defiance creator Rockne S. O'Bannon, as well as CSI:NY's Trey Callaway, are also joining Revolution's writing team. Edlund, O'Bannon, Callaway, and Kripke make a solid quartet.

I would recap and review a Chinese Food Takeout Menu if Edlund wrote it. The man is on another level. But is he good enough to keep Charlie Matheson from getting stuck under a pile of junk, surrendering with her hands up, or having her life saved by Miles each episode after she does something stupid? I hope so!



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Nobody seems to be picking up on all the hints that Rachel caused the blackout. She did it to save Danny's life - we already know that the proliferation of nanites was keeping him alive. In "The Night The Lights Went Out In Georgia" she alludes to Dr. Warren that she has done horrible things to keep Danny alive and killed "too many people". In a flashback in "Children of Men" she has a suicidal breakdown about over it (although she does not tell Ben the whole truth). And in this episode she hushes up Aaron when he starts to explain how someone used his backdoor to purposely cause the blackout. It was Rachel - crazy-ass Rachel!!!
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The real problem is that it's not enough for Edlund to write brilliant scripts. You need the actors good enough to make his genius come alive. Jensen Ackles and Jared Padalecki were as good at "getting" Edlund and making it real, as he was creating it. Revolution is flat and humorless. Edlund will get bored fast, I think.
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I'm torn! Ben Edlund's episodes are the ones I look forward to the most in every season. But I do think Revolution needs this a lot more than Supernatural. Lets hope no more bad writers from season 7 get into the writing team in his place.
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Supernatural will be fine minus Edlund as long as jeremy Carver stays as showrunner and Kripke stays with Revolution
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NOOOOOOOOOOO
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What a waste....
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Of course, Supernatural fans won't like losing a talented writer. They are many while Revolution fans, right now, are few. The poll results are predictable.

Just looked at his credits and saw he wrote the Hollywood episode of Supernatural along with Smile Time for Angel. I wonder if Revolution is the best place for his humor and irony.
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Well, since the whole show is kind of a giant joke, his humor seems like it'll fit right in. Now it'll just be intentional.
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That's a good way to see it, hehe!
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Does adding one good writer to a bad team really make that much of a difference? I only know one example, and it suggests the opposite. Anyone remember when Bryan Fuller rejoined the Heroes team? It got better*, but it didn't get good. Then he left again.

*) At the time (season 3), it was so bad that it couldn't possibly have gotten any worse.

This sounds very bad for Supernatural, and only a little bit good for Revolution.
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True. He came back in time to write the best episode of Season 3 (my favorite episode of the entire series) and even that couldn't salvage a sinking ship.
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Agreed.
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So now "Supernatural" is briging back two of the below average writers in the show's history, Eric Charmelo and Nicole Snyder, responsible for most of the garbage in Season 6 and who couldn't even keep 'Ringer' on the air past the opening bell. EP Jim Michaels is talking about this like he's getting back what he's losing - put down the pipe Jim. "Supernatural" is in big big trouble now. Is anyone around "Supernatural", talking about this enormous loss? This is going to kill the Winchester boys.
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Yeah lets save the horrible awful Revolution with its horrible actors and sacrifice the awesome Supernatural for it ... sounds legit and fair.
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I have the second half of Revolution saved on my DVR and was not in a rush to see it and was considering ignoring second season. Now i have to give it one more year to get going because of the Edlund. I hope Supernatural stays strong.
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The second half of Revolution is much much much better than the first. It almost feels like a reboot.
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Damn it. Sucks for Supernatural, Ben Edlund was behind a number of great episodes. The show ought to get rid off a couple of writers, but certainly not this one. And just when there was a hope of things going in the right direction again...

I remain sceptic whether anyone or anything could turn Revolution from a mediocre series to a superb show, at this point. They might improve on it, sure, but will that be enough? You cannot fix every single thing that turned out to be laughable without erasing it all completely and starting from the scratch. I have yet to force myself to watch the second half of this season, but there always seem to be better things to see.
Eh, Kripke. You should never have left.
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Sucks for SPN which I am a fan of, and sucks for me since i don t give a crap about Revolution future and was predicting its end sooner than later. Good luck Ben you ll be missed and always be welcomed back
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First Rockne S. O'Bannon and now, Ben Edlund. Great !
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Good for Revolution.
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"So not only does this thing exists but you deprive everyone of cake" Ron Swanson.
i think this pretty much describes everyone's feelings for these news.
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I don't think even Ben Edlund can save "Revolution."
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Are there any good SPN writers left? I guess there's Robbie Thompson and that's about it.
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Jeremy Carver besides being a great showrunner is a great writer too. He wrote the Season 8 finale "Sacrifice"
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True dat. Also forgot about the Dabb and Loflin duo.
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Crap, that double sucks! Supernatural desperately needs Edlund to counteract some of Carver's incompetence. I loved Carver as a writer, but as a showrunner he rendered my favourite series absolutely unwatchable to me. I had to stop after 8x07, but was planning on giving it another go as several people told me it got better in the second half of the season. But now that Ben is gone I'm not sure I'm gonna try to get back into it.

As for Revolution, I gave up on it. I really wanted to like it, but I just don't. And I don't think even Ben Edlund can change that.
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Sucks for Supernatural. I always want the best for that show, and Edlund is included in that. He's written about 24 episodes of the show since Season 2, that's a huge chunk of awesomeness.

I'm happy for Revolution but will a good writer or two really make Season 2 better? Lets hope so. But I don't know if it's a good career move for Edlund, who in my opinion should stay with Supernatural, but I guess he's got to move on and maybe this will open new doors for him.
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OMG no!! It's not gonna be the same without Ben! Why would he want to go to Revolution? Damn you Kripke!
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NO!!! But if it helps Revolution in any way, then I'm fine with it. Although, I'm gonna miss his weird and wacky SPN eps. Well at least we'll always have "Bad Day at Black Rock" and "The French Mistake".
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Paul Dini was a wrtier on the first season of Lost, but how long was he actually there. As I recall, he was gone long before the end of the season. The second season of V had the writer of the CSI episode "Butterflies" and the story editor from the first season of CSI: Miami; how much good did that do? And I think the co-executive producer of Hawaii Five-0, Stephanie Segupta, was a writer on Law & Order: Criminal Intent, so I don't see any reason to get excited without having seen any, let alone several episodes. I don't even see how this rates a whole article.
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well none of those people you mentioned compare to rockne o'bannon & ben edlund for one thing.
according to imdb paul dini wrote 1 episode of lost, and a writer for a random episode of csi (which as far as i know isn't known for great writing), neither is law & order in my opinion.
compared that to the works of o'bannon/edlund which have some legendary credits like farscape/angel/firefly/supernatural and not just a few things but solid credits on them. it's kind of a big deal.
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Look under "Miscellaneous crew." Paul Dini was a consultant on 23 episodes and a story consultant on 22 episodes. So, my bad, Dini apparently worked on Lost for two seasons, but that definitely qualifies him as a staff writer, and I will stack Batman: The Animated Series against Seaquest DSV or The Tick (comic, cartoon, or live action series) any day of the week. The other two writers whose names I couldn't remember were David Rambo and Gwendolyn Parker (who went from CSI: Miami to Without a Trace), who are good writers in my opinion. As for Law & Order (or CSI) not being well written shows, I doubt anybody could keep a show on the air for over a decade purely on eye candy and pandering to shippers. So, no, Ben Edlund moving from one show to another is not that big a deal.
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i do love edlund but im still not tuning in for revolution. so altogether too bad for snp :/
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i think you're too harsh on "revolution", i started to check it out and i'm about 4 episodes in and it's not terrible.. sure, there is cheesy badness but the overall package is decent enough to stay with it in my opinion.
and if it's true that rockne o'bannon is also joining the team, then ohhhhhh yeah! that guy is so creative.. edlund & o'bannon, this should be a great season 2 experience!
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I'm kinda sad all these talented people are heading over that absolute trainwreck instead of working on making the shows they're on even better.
Plus it's not like all the people who were disgusted by the ridiculousness of the show and the bland-ness of its character in season 1 (present company included) are going to catch up on it for season 2.
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That is a lot of good people wasting time on a crappy show. Especially now that it'll be on it's own next year, where it will die. Bright side? All those people should be free to go or rejoin projects by next January.
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From your mouth to the TV Gods' ears.
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Good for Revolution, maybe it means they can overpower the Abrams sect and get on track with Kripke's storytelling vision. Bad for Supernatural which struggled for an entire god-awful season under Carver. Edlund's episodes were, as always, a bright spot. Carver is incompetent--he needs people who know the show to help him. It's really just another reason to give up on Supernatural.
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Gamble almost rode it to the ground, amping up all the gay subtext for fangirls at the expense of good stories. Carver took half a season to get mostly back on track.
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Carver did everything that Gamble did but worse! Brother angst, filler after filler after filler, killing people off (and he spent half a season rubbing in dead Bobby), retconning mythology. The entire season felt like it was supposed to come after season 3 instead of 7. The only good thing Carver did was Men of Letters/Batcave and that wasn't even his idea.
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Since Season 1 it's been shown that humans can summon a reaper and use it to do it's bidding (Faith). Also, it's not surprising that Crowley could sneak up on Bobby's Reaper since he was Rouge and pretty much "working" as a crossroads demon for Crowley and since Season 2 it's been known that demons can possess Reapers, at least Azazel-like powered demons, which I'm assuming being the King of Hell Crowley has reached that level.

Now, I will give you that comment Dean made in the finale to Sam about confessing for "Ruby, killing Lillith, losing his soul" was a weird line, and I thought the same thing so you know you're right on that one.

The season six plot with cas & crowley searching for a way to open the gates to purgatory thing, AGAIN it's not like the show said that was the only way to open the gates. In taxi driver it was a rouge reaper who opened the gate, not a demon or angel or human, it was a reaper who has the ability to do so. Did you hate it when Dean killed Dick Roman and it sent him and Cas to Purgatory?

I'm not trying to be a bitch about your opinion I'm honestly intrigued by it because I see mostly positive reviews for Season 8 and I agreed. Not that it was perfect there's always "meh" episodes, but I normally notice retcon and HATE it, so the fact that you see it makes me wonder what I overlooked
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Well the show never stated that a Reaper couldn't get into Purgatory with a spell nor that there wasn't a "backdoor" in Purgatory into hell and it's always been stated that Reapers knew the way into hell/heaven. Not exactly a retcon, I'd say the shadiest part of the 'Taxi Driver' script was Crowley being able to kill the Reaper with his Angel Sword, but again it was never stated that they couldn't be killed that way, so not a retcon.

The Men of Letters isn't a retcon either exactly. It's an extreme add on, true, but it's also something that beefs up the context of the show and the brothers' ancestry.

The show's in it's 8th season and IMO it added on to the mythology pretty nicely and did a good job at not retconning shit. If there's something I missed though that you can think of that was actually stated and canon in the previous seasons that Season 8 messed up let me know though
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Well they explicitly said that reapers live on a separate plane and all of a sudden not only can you just find one, but Crowley can sneak up on them and kill them. They explicitly said when Sam got pulled out of hell they left his soul behind, and then all of a sudden it was his fault for losing his soul. The entire point of Crowley teaming up with Castiel was to get into purgatory which needed a very complicated ritual, but now there's an easy portal negating the entire season-long plot. So yeah, that's not "adding" to mythology and that is just one episode.
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retconning mythology? are you talking about the Men of Letters? If so I don't see how that's a recton more of an add on. If you're not talking about MOL I'm interested in what
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Start with how reapers work, how "easy" it is to get in and out of hell/to purgatory--he negated and entire season with that one, men of letters, etc etc.
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not a fan of Season 8? Thats a bummer.
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Couldn't care less about Revolution. Not even Edlund can save that show!!! He should have stayed with Supernatural!!!
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I miss the old format of Supernatural where they went around killing ghosts and other monsters.
All this save the world stuff had become annoying to say the least.
Once you have defeated Lucifer anything else is minor in comparison.
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Seconded. I like Misha Collins and Cass, but the angels/Heaven/Hell stuff got old really fast.
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Super I'm glad. Ben Scenarios for "Supernatural" recently became less and less sense. I guess I just already bored with writing for the SN. And "Revolution" useful good writer because the show is hopelessly stupid.
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Bad news for Supernatural
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Tim, there is a mistake in the pol question because I need to hit both. I've stayed with Revolution because the premise was good and there was almost a glimmer of hope that they didn't screw it all up. Then I say Rockne O'Bannon was joining up I figured I would give it a chance for a second season, something I never felt the need to give Falling Skies, and probably won't give Defiance.

But I don't like the idea of Supernatural losing a key writer at the same time they are getting a new time slot, and what appears to be a really cool new twist to the Winchester-verse next season.

So I vote for both.
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What a waste. Supernatural needs Ben Edlund. And not even Ben Edlund can save Revolution.
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So true
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This just means that the creative genius of Kripke AND Edlund is being wasted on this blackhole of a shit-show. They need to cut themselves loose and go produce a new show that isn't full of boring characters and boring, non-sensical plots.
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Supernatural... ; _ ;
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Will it be enough to save revolution though. At this point I don't care about any character (which is probably a good thing as they'll most likely be killed off)
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It's weird isn't it? On Supernatural, Kripke made me care about fictional characters more than I have ever cared about any fictional characters ever. But on Revolution, I was practically rooting for them to be killed off. I just don't care what happens to them, and if I don't care what happens to the characters, why should I care about the story?
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This is terrible news. Heck this day is full of terrible news! First I hear about Smith leaving Doctor Who, now this?!?! Crap.
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WHAT?!!!?? Matt Smith is leaving Doctor Who?!

This day is indeed full of terrible news.
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Well... time to make that turd look like a shiny diamond, Edlund. Good luck!
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Fuck!! Just when Supernatural was getting back on its feet! Really? leaving for Revolution? Who is still watching that?!?!
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Supernatural's Edlund-led 8th season significantly recovered most of the meandering of the previous two. And, while I think that the direction he's pointed the show in is sustainable without him, I will certainly miss Edlund's contributions. I wanted Revolution not to suck, and I hope that he can beat this show into submission, but, honestly, this one NEVER had its footing. Edlund, I hope you're being well compensated, because I'm pretty sure you chose the wrong horse.
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this news makes me angry. Not because Supernatural is losing someone, but because it reminded me that the abomination Revolution is still on the air. Put it out to pasture please
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This article is a bald faced lie. Eric Kripke was tragically gunned down in the street in The French Mistake by Raphael, so the Eric Kripke on Revolution is obviously a fake - does he even look like Eric Kripke? I just like saying Kripke. Kripke, Kripke, Kripke...

OR, does he look more like Barry Kripke?????
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Edlund didn't just write for The Tick, he created The Tick. Spoon!
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Endlund pulled Supernatural out of the gutter. Season 6 was a horrible, convoluted mess. Season 7 was a little better, but the Big Bad wasn't scary and his whole "turn America into a meat farm" scheme was hammy at best. Though season 8 was far from perfect (stupid Sam flashbacks ruined otherwise ok stories in the first 9 episodes) the season got way better after they introduced the Trials and how terrifying Crowley can get when he's truly given a chance at being the Big Bad. It's been said Supernatural is supposed to have two more seasons to its run, and I really don't know if it will go back to being crappy like it was post-Apocalypse or not.
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Season 6 was fantastic. Don't get why it gets bagged on. Definitely much better than the awful season 7, which was way more of a convoluted mess than season 6. Season 6 tied together pitch perfect by the end, and explained perfectly what happens when you choose freedom over peace, which was the question at the end of season 5. They took a film noir-ish, mystery approach with their story telling and some of the series best episodes were in season 6.

Season 7 was dreadful.
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I loved season 6 too. I think you have to have an appreciation of film noir to really like season 6.

I liked season 7 too though. Loved the Leviathan, they were such entertaining baddies.
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may be too little too late for me. I'm at least three episodes behind currently and not the least bit interested in even hate watching them.
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True, Edlund can only help Revolution (damnit Revolution...why. aren't. you. better?! I want to like you!). But I don't see his style working in this show. His voice works so perfectly in Supernatural (and Angel for that matter) and I hate to see them lose someone who has done such excellent work for them. But they have lost other good writers and they have Jeremy Carver back so they should be able to keep it going in the right direction.

And who knows, maybe with Edlund and the other new writers Revolution will improve...stranger things have happened. Plenty of good shows had crappy first seasons and pulled it together...the optimist in me has her fingers crossed! Like Tim I'll pretty much watch anything Edlund writes.
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The French Mistake is one of my favourite episodes of television of all time and Supernatural will miss Edlund much more than Revolution will gain from him...
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The whole concept on this show is just a bad idea. I don't think it can be saved. And I am really sad that O'Bannon won't be keeping as tight a rein on Defiance is also bad news. That show was teetering at about half good, half bad, and I'm afraid without him it may go all to heck also.
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The only way to make revolution better is for JJ Abrams to get lost not by taking another one of supernatural's best.
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