Da Vinci's Demons "The Tower" Review: Special Victims Unit

Da Vinci's Demons S01E05: "The Tower"

Just when I was starting to get bored with young Leo's deus ex brilliance and inability to function like a person who isn't batshit crazy, the Da Vinci's Demons gang cranked Leonardo's eccentricity up to eleven and it was glorious. Tom Riley looked like he was enjoying every minute of playing Leo like some sort of maladjusted manchild and I laughed. I laughed a lot. Plus, "The Tower" was just a really well-written episode in general, with a tight story and an almost perfect balance between humor and heartbreak. It was definitely my favorite episode of the series thus far. 

At the end of last week's little spat with Riario, the Medicis' grand party in honor of Leo's contribution to their victory over the Vatican was interrupted by a band of Riario's conspirators; unfortunately for Leo and Lorenzo, the gents held positions of power within Florence that enabled them to pretty much make whatever claims they wanted about where a dude had stuck his paintbrush and have them taken as fact. So Leo was off to jail on sodomy charges with the potential for execution hanging heavily in the air, while the Medicis scrambled to do some damage control—no small feat, since their rep was already somewhat tarnished due to their spat with the Pope and his nephew. Da Vinci's arrest and disgrace couldn't have come at a worse time, since Lorenzo and Clarice were entertaining Ferdinand and Isabella (yes, that Ferdinand and Isabella) in hopes of winning the financial business of the Spanish royals. As if wooing the uptight, pious Isabella's favor wasn't a big enough challenge after she declared Donatello's bronze David "lewd," their pet artist being collared for supposedly banging dudes only made matters worse. Lorenzo was having a real bad week, ya'll.

And Leo wasn't really helping his case at first glance. Less than thrilled with his father being the one to represent him in court, Leo refused to take any sort of plea bargain and insisted that the charges be dropped completely. As soon as opening arguments started, it became clear that Riario and his peeps weren't screwing around—they pulled in a wringer for the prosecution with a serious hatred for the Medicis, ransacked Leo's workshop for detailed drawings of dongs to present as evidence, and found a witness who claimed that Leo had raped him. Thrice. 

Nice. 

However, Leo's batty babbling and seemingly nonchalant attitude in the courtroom weren't in vain. The man had a plan all along—which was fortunate, because Lucrezia pointed out that Riario's plan was quickly spiraling out of control. He'd only wanted to completely destroy Leo's reputation and ruin his life. He didn't want to kill him. Boundaries, you know? You can't get the man to paint cherubs and shit if he's executed. 

Still, I didn't see the bestiality coming. 

Freshly escaped from his cell, Leo used a camera obscura to project a live-action image of his judge banging a pig in the halls of justice into the freaking sky above the city (love it!), because everybody knows that the one thing worse than men who sleep with other men is men who sleep with farm animals. Some things never change, eh, society? If we're nice to the gays, then what are we supposed to do about the pigfuckers? Be nice to them too? It's a slippery slope. 

Leo used the mutually assured destruction of both taboos to blackmail the judge into dropping his charges, promising immunity for Leo against possible future sodomy charges, and giving Leo some cash for his troubles. He is a "mad artist" after all, and most people just assume he's sleeping with everyone anyway. Plus Florence is pretty progressive, and even Lorenzo pointed out that no one had enforced the city's sodomy laws in at least fifty years before Riario came along. Leo would survive the scandal, but if word got out about the judge and the pig, well, that dude's career was over. 


"The best story wins," Da Vinci claimed in the middle of his crazy-convict-with-nothing-to-lose speech and fo' sho, Leo. Fo' sho. "The Tower" was definitely one of the Da Vinci's Demons' best tales so far. After quite a bit of angst, death, and defeat, the wins for both Leo and the Medicis—who charmed Ferdinand and Isabella despite the tabloid fodder that swirled around them for most of the episode—were a welcome break. However, "The Tower" was by no means a throwaway episode. When you only have eight episodes in your season to begin with, you can't really afford filler. 

I feel like we were given an excellent look into the philosophy of the Medici family, solidly recruiting me to their corner and finally dispersing any lingering doubt that they're the ones I'm supposed to be cheering for. Lorenzo can be a little rough around the edges and initially, his good guy/bad guy status was kind of fuzzy what with that whole "build me a big gun or I'll execute you" routine, but the Medicis' patronage of the arts and sciences that enable Leo to do so much of what he does is rooted in a sincere belief in the potential of mankind to achieve greatness through sheer willpower and ingenuity. It's a dangerous stance because it can so easily be corrupted for personal gain or in response to  terrible fear (like we saw with the gun incident), but at its core, it's a positive and admirable drive to have—and what's the alternative, anyway? Go back to the dark ages forever?

Then, the revelation that the witness called against Leo by the prosecution against wasn't totally lying brought us back to the question of Leo's sexuality on this show and how the writers might acknowledge the fact that historically, there is ample evidence pointing to Leo being into men. The two men did have a relationship, but it was consensual. When Leo broke things off, the scorned party agreed to testify against Leo not so much out of revenge, but out of the hope that Leo would return to him if he was exposed. Despite Leo's merciless treatment of the judge, with his former lover he was gentle and understanding, and stated that his "desire [was] not as simple as one or the other," meaning an attraction to men or women. Considering all the epic lovey-dovey time Leonardo's been getting with Lucrezia, it's obvious that the writers on Da Vinci's Demons are certainly going to emphasize the fact that their Leonardo Da Vinci is mostly hetero with some bisexual experimentation thrown in, and that's fine. It works in the characterization that they've developed, and kudos for not just ignoring the reality of Da Vinci and hiding behind the fact that this is a fantasy series. I thought the subject was handled pretty gracefully here. 

So, gold star Da Vinci's Demons. I enjoyed this this one immensely. 



NOTES

– "Fuck you, Leo." Poor Zoroaster. <3

– I really dug the Lucrezia-lite tone of this episode. I'm working on liking her, but she just tries my patience every time she shows up. Clarice, however, rocks my socks, and Vanessa is just made out of sunshine. 

– Leonardo revealed that in his memory/bad acid trip/dream adventure in the cave o' corpses as a kid, the naked man hanging upside down and begging for help was actually him as an adult. This news was accompanied by a flash of a hanged man tarot card. One of the  meanings associated with the Hanged Man card is "divinity through self-destruction"—which, honestly, fits Leo to a tee. What are your theories?

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May 13, 2013
Of course daVinci has to be a true bisexual dervish on STARZ - could work(did in this episode) but it could also go totally bonkers in the future.
What's the problem with showing an asexual lead? The Brits do it for almost 60 years. The show is called "Doctor Who".
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May 13, 2013
The world, at least, the US, is not ready to have a show where a main character is gay.
"Da Vinci's Demons" belongs to his creators and they do what they want with their show, it is their absolute right.
But sadly, in the 21th century, the US are still nor ready to have a show where the main character is gay.
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Jun 07, 2013
No but we are getting there, the person below mentioned Will and Grace, unfortunately it seems so far the closest we have had to gay lead characters have been on sitcoms. However I do believe you were talking about drama/action adventure im assuming. We have had in the last ten years or so a rising in gay supporting characters and relationships. From STARZ just recently Agron and Nasir, to Michael C. Hall "Dexter" who was previously on the HBO show Six Feet Under as gay character David Fisher who was in a relationship with another gay character throughout the series. Now while this show originated in the UK, the last season of the UK US collaborated series Torchwood, which was on STARZ had John Barrowman as gay leading character "Captain Jack Harkness" But than there was Queer as Folk and The L Word, so we are getting there. Even on the sci fi channel there is the show Lost Girl is bisexual, and on Warehouse 13 there is the gay character Steve Jinks.
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Jun 07, 2013
True. I've seen most shows you mentioned. I really liked the relation between Ianto and Jack Harkness in Torchwood and the character Michel C Hall played in Six Feet Under was really touching.
I indeed meant gay characters as major ones in drama, such as Rubicon, a great US spy show. The US is not the only country that struggles with this "concept" ; in Europe also, good gay major characters are hard to find.
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Jun 08, 2013
Yeah what I really love the most about John Barrowman"Captain Jack" from Torchwood, is one he is openly gay in real life. They also treated the sex scenes and innuendos from Jack as if they were completely normal, just like on Six Feet Under. The thing about Jack his character was he was from the waaayyyy future where like the ancient past sexuality once again becomes a complete non issue and being bi or gay is common place, and he actually is a little straight, I mean throughout the series it's made clear he has feelings for Gwen, and he always hit on the Doctor Who girls Rose, and Martha. But other than some sad looks and stuff he has had nothing but gay relationships, and Barrowman has become an icon for gay youth in Britain and now made his way to America. Barrowman in the last couple years he guest starred on Desperate Housewives and recurring the entire year on the new show "Arrow" both as villains.

Anyway back to my earlier subject about Jack's future of of course nobody giving a shit about sexuality, most people associate ancient Greece when they think of that. But that was not the only time, I mean Da Vinci was alive during the Renaissance! The time of great enlightenment and Florence was like the Ancient Greece of Ancient Italy. I mean he says it himself "The only thing Florence demands of its people is to be truly awake"

Like I said when I first saw the DD trailer and went on youtube I could not believe that the majority of comments were people bitching about the gay thing and historical accuracy, I have learned that some people dont' actually watch tv shows or previews, they just look at them with a preconcieved notion ready with a pen and paper to write down every nitpick so they can bitch about it online afterwards. I actually wrote that "Does nobody catch it's Science Fiction, meaning it doesn't have to be nor is it meant to be historically accurate. People did that when Spartacus started, but it was when the first season actor Andy Whitfield RIP, passed away and they announced his replacement that AW himself had a hand in picking all there was months before the show was "This guy sucks" "The show will suck now" "I'm not gonna watch" So I love to write to them "Oh I wasn't aware u could see the future, and by the way you WILL watch the show just so u can bitch about it online afterwards!" And sure enough I saw some similar names later on.

Anyway I actually have not heard of Rubicon, and yes while you are right about not just the US but Europe struggling with gay main characters in tv shows, I feel Europe is still ahead of us in that regard but we in the last ten years or so are catching up. I mean as you said Michael C. Hall, an amazing fucking actor who I really thought wa gay on Six Feet Under, was brilliant and I loved him and Keith. Than there is also the character Ian on the Showtime series "Shameless" a gay teenager. So plenty of gay secondary and reccurring characters. Than there were not one but two gay relationships on Spartacus.
I'm not one of those gay dudes who watches soap operas or shit like Glee, but they have gay characters and relationships so I can appreciate that. Now what has impressed me is actually ABC Family, yeah yeah I watch Pretty Little Liars, I'm gay I have to have at least SOME guilty pleasures! And they feature an open Lesbian relationship very well.
Surprisingly drama shows years ago had gay characters that werent emphasized enough, Julian on The Shield, random gay characters and transexuals on "Nip Tuck" Even old cop shows like Homicide: Life on the street and NYPD Blue. There are others but that would be alot of writing! by the way I am a writer and aspiring film maker if u were wondering.

Last thing I want to say is while tvs shows have are making progress, there has been gay themed (not pornos some of you!) movies for a while now, but whether its US or Europe the majority of gay drama films end in a depressing way, the one one straight dude who is gay in the movie goes back to being straight, that or someway the relationships don't work out, there's violence, somebody dies, I mean really WTF? Europe gay themed movies do show more sex wise, but they still end up the same way. I mean these writers and directors are most liely gay, so why is it that the movies about relationships make it seem like 9 times out od ten they won't work out? Granted there are few happy ending dramas, and of course comedies always work out but like really who is in charge of this?

Ok again sorry for writing so much, it's a writers thing, thats why i am glad at least youtube limits you 500 characters per paragraph, but that hasn't stopped me from writing like a dozen of them! lol


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May 13, 2013
Will and Grace
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May 13, 2013
And ...?
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May 13, 2013
Can we talk about how much of a badass Piero Da Vinci was in this episode? Awesome stuff from Leo's dad.
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May 12, 2013
by far the best episode in this show's short history. not only that, one of the best episodes of any kind i've seen this season. it went deep into it's main characters, their motives and their relations with their closest family while maintaining an interesting plot and fast pace.
both leo and il magnifico showed their ideals, methods of working around problems and how the people around them shaped their brilliance (father and brother respectively).
i wanted more from fray tomás, he seemed a little tamed to me, but the historical figures keep coming and most of them have a nice twist to them.
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May 12, 2013
"Considering all the epic lovey-dovey time Leonardo's been getting with Lucrezia, it's obvious that the writers on Da Vinci's Demons are certainly going to emphasize the fact that their Leonardo Da Vinci is mostly hetero with some bisexual experimentation thrown in, and that's fine. It works in the characterization that they've developed,"

I agree with that. I mean, I'd love to see a show or documentary about the real Leonardo, but since we're talking about a fantasy series, I like the characterization they've presented so far, and as a fictional character, I prefer him mostly straight, and perhaps a little "bicurious", though I believe that's not something politically correct to say these days.. I like his scenes with Lucrezia, she's very attractive and sexy, and I believe if he gets emotionally involved with her love-wise, the shock of discovering she's been causing him and the Medicis so much trouble will cause all the more impact.
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May 12, 2013
LOVED this ep. Four for you Da Vinci's Demons, four for you ^_^

Zoroaster - I <3 him as well. Oh and Nico; always the guinea pig. So adorable lol.

"I really dug the Lucrezia-lite tone of this episode." - Word. I'm not even trying to like her. I just want her dealt with quickly.

"Clarice, however, rocks my socks, and Vanessa is just made out of sunshine." - THIS!

I missed my dude Riario this week. *sadface*

Well well well. Giuliano managed to get through an entire ep without screwing stuff up. Applaud that man LOL *applause*

"..., it's obvious that the writers on Da Vinci's Demons are certainly going to emphasize the fact that their Leonardo Da Vinci is mostly hetero with some bisexual experimentation thrown in, and that's fine." - Agreed.
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May 12, 2013
Thank you for doing a weekly review of this. I know its not a lot of peoples favorite, but its something good tv should be: fun, interesting, and just enough mystery to leave you wanting that next episode.

People need to stop think of this as a D-Vinci'esque John Adams Bio-Drama,but a 'based on some historical events' homage to early action-comic series, Zorro and Indiana Jones, It;s supposed to be fun, not The Tudors, Spartacus was not exactly lacking in historical accuracy, and they used gratuitous sex and violence to cover that up, At least Da Vinci can produce dialogue worth listening to, often witty and mutli-layered, and hey...its just plain fun.
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May 11, 2013
It wasn't bad. Kind of weird. The Book of Leaves is obviously a time machine.
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May 11, 2013
As far as I am concerned, and as the undying SF fan I am, this episode saw the first clear Steampunk I was waiting for in the photographic and sky projection scene. The flying scene in the pilot and the mechanical bird were written as failed attempts in one account, but still remains tentatively in the realm of possibility. It still was written as a seamless scene and I wouldn't be surprised if certain audiences will not accept this as a fact or at least not question it as much.
In the "width of a circle", David Bowie mentions at one point that he met a monster and that the monster was he; this hallucination of seeing oneself in a tortuous or tortured manner is 100% Jungian, and is thought of as the first step in analysis as "fighting the Shadow". Leo could have had this "revelation", especially as he was in sensory deprivation mode and under the influence of the bat guano (but most certainly the hallucinogene molds that grew in jails around that time). In fact, the whole Mithra subplot is a Jungian Picaresque journey and should be interpreted that way.
As for Leo's homosexuality, it is one of the few biographical well documented facets of his life that have come down to us with his left handedness and the notes that have survived him. He did have some heterosexual adventures, but these are less overtly documented and there is of course, his obsession with La Jocunda that cannot be denied.I honestly don't think the Starz writers meant insult in being hazy on this front as the sexual customs of this period were not as oriented as they are these days.Also, it is important to stress that this anti-sodomy law was regarded as ancient and never used to accuse anyone before Leo's incarceration. In the end,what mattered most is that father and son discovered that they did care for each other after all.
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Jun 07, 2013
Thank you! Finally someone other than myself took a look at the preview for the show and than the show itself and saw it as what it is, an sort of old school "Steampunk" adventure show. It is called "Da Vinci's Demons", not "Da Dvinci's Dick" or a new reality show "Da Vinci: Gay, Straight, or Bi?" The first time I saw the trailer for the show it reminded me of an old not well known short lived Steampunk show called "The Secret Adventures of Jules Verne" it was very action adventure Doctor Who like about young Verne still in his College days, like Da Vinci they make Verne out to be a sort of prophet ahead of his time, whereas Da Vinci was an artist/inventor and Verne was a writer, they were both what you could call visionaries of the future that many did not take seriously or were considered out of their minds. A mechanical flying bird, the early hanglider etc.. and Verne: A ship that can sail underwater, or travel through time? Anyway while lighter, SAJV was similar to DD in the fact that Verne's ideas and imagination were more than just that, they were actually visions of what the future could hold and unknown to them to have the ability to use more ofSO at the start of SAJV young Verne finds out there is a conspiracy, a "terrorist" group for lack of better word, not only know about Verne's ability, but intend to exploit him for their as usual evil purposes. So in the beginning by chance he runs into and helps and gets helped from "Phinneas Fogg" one of Verne's characters, who is formerly British secret Service, his cousin Rebecca Fogg who is currently BSS, and in a card game Phinneas wins The Aurora, the what more could u ask for Steampunk Airship that was designed and built by the fourth character who Fogg gets too as his butler, but also valued team member and the only one who knows how to fly and repair the ship "Paspartou" I think thats the spelling. So the four of them fly around the world sometimes getting secret missions,m sometimes running into random trouble, and the conspiracy arc episodes. What was fun was that just about every episode of the only 1 season was based at least somewhat on one of Verne's stories, which is how he gets the ideas for them. Like the real Verne, every now and than they have episodes with famous people from the time alot of which Verne actually knew and was friends with especially other writers. Like I never knew he was good friends with Alexandre Dumas "The Musketeers novels and others. Thers a two parter where they meet Dumas after having already written some of the Musketer books, and Dumas has been n holding on to the what the characdters didnt know was a time machine yet, and so while running from bad guys Dumas holds them off while the four get in and setoff the machine sending them back to the time and place of The Musketeers, but not only that they actually meet all the book characters, and it was actually all the actors the four, Dumas, and reccuring, who play the parts of the Musketeer characters. as if body doubles. It was a great idea cuz Verne and Phinneas the actors instead play the villains and they switch things up. Anyway I didnt mean to go on this long, but my point is even though Verne later in life got married and had a family nobody complained that he didnt even have a relationship, Phinneas was a fictional character perhaps if the show had lived Verne would have based the show character on the book character. Also nobody bitched about historical inaccuracies. By the way unless anyone of around the world today was alive back than and actually knew Leonardo NONE of us can say what is is fact or fiction about his life private or otherwise. I mean other than the part about the relationship, or lack there of, between Leo and his father could be considered most likely accurate since there was never once anything written from Leo saying that he had nothing but hatred toward his father most of his life. Now as you said in this episode Piero defended Leo, not sure if that happened or not, but i would have to disagree with your comment about them learning they did care for eachother. Well Leo at least despite everything while he hates his father, just like any son he still deep down desperately wants love and approval from Piero. Earlier Piero said Leo's mother was a serving girl and was dead, but we found out that he hates and blames Leo because the mother while wa a serving girl, isn't dead she just up and left him with baby Leo, and so Piero think she abandoned him a rich man and respected man he even said "Women like that don't leave men like me!,they don't!" Now being a plot of the show i'm thinking we will soon discover Leo's lost memory of her, what really happened, and she will probably turn up alive. As the Turk has said "History is a lie changed by those who wish to cover up the truth, to shape events to their own making to keep people in line" So whether Da Vinci was Gay, straight, Bi, or a life long virgin, who gives a fuck, by the way this is coming from a gay male since the last time I wrote that last sentence without writing I was gay I got accused of being homophobic!
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Jun 07, 2013
Thank you, my friend for this wonderful long comment. I think that I had seen TSAJV, which like DD both have a good foundation for like you mention "old time Steampunk".As you know, Jules Vernes researched his ideas in science journals of his time and if you recently read any of his novels, they contain countless of scientific foootnotes to inform the reader. His ideas were SF in the best form, and some of his ideas have panned out in discoveries and inventions very well alive today.Your remark at the end is kind of hilarious and reveals how people sometimes tend to enter their own prejudices in our own voices, even if the prejudice seems at the surface as "enlightned".
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May 11, 2013
His "memory" of adult him hanging upside down preceded by his revelation to that dude that his big motivator in life is that he's trying to find his mom's Florida retirement home was such a one-two punch of stupid that I almost didn't notice that that dude is apparently Santa Claus or some shit and can see when Leo is sleeping and knows his dreams. I just don't know that I can embrace the stupid like MaryAnn. I may have to watch the next episode very drunk.
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May 11, 2013
To be totally honest, I don't give a f*** who Leo f***s as long as makes for a good story and entertaining television. And that it certainly did. And there was more to this episode than the gay/hetero question.
The whole trial reminded me of todays tabloid press and their way of business: the best story wins. Doesn't matter if its true, if people buy it, you did the right thing. Good for Leo to expose and use the "courts" corruption in such a way and to get free :)
I'm interested to see if he will actually figure out who his accuser was. He should, since he seems to be the smartest guy around.
To bad this season has only 8 episodes. I am really looking forward the the rest.
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May 11, 2013
Just when I thought Leo couldn't get any more batshit insane, they up the ante by adding actual batshit.
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May 11, 2013
MaryAnn Sleasman said:
" Considering all the epic lovey-dovey time Leonardo's been getting with Lucrezia, it's obvious that the writers on Da Vinci's Demons are certainly going to emphasize the fact that their Leonardo Da Vinci is mostly hetero with some bisexual experimentation thrown in, and that's fine"

So depicting Leonardo da Vinci as "mostly hetero" in spite of all the verified historical evidence to the contrary is "fine" with you, MaryAnn??? How very heterosexist and heterocentric of you, MaryAnn.
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May 11, 2013
Take a history lesson about the subject and you'll realize your championing of Leo for you LGBT movement is pretty flimsy, considering a massive lack of evidence in your favor. But sure, keep harping on that point... You seem to like being disappointed... even when a show does cater to your perspective with this episode by verifying they Leo was bisexual.
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May 12, 2013
I already know the history about the subject. It's you that seems to need a history lesson on this subject. Let me oblige:

No historical evidence of Leonardo da Vinci being married.

No historical evidence of Leonardo da Vinci having any children.

No historical evidence of Leonardo da Vinci having romantic/sexual relations with women.

There is historical evidence of Leonardo da Vinci not once, but TWICE, being publicly accused of taking part in sodomy with males.

There is historical evidence of Leonardo da Vinci, in his own writing, expressing his disgust for procreational sex. i.e. straight sex.




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May 12, 2013
"No historical evidence of Leonardo da Vinci being married.

No historical evidence of Leonardo da Vinci having any children.
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True
"No historical evidence of Leonardo da Vinci having romantic/sexual relations with women."
True, but that goes both ways(for men and women), Who knows who was he fu**ing (his private life was a secret only he knew)

"There is historical evidence of Leonardo da Vinci not once, but TWICE, being publicly accused of taking part in sodomy with males."
False, he was accused only once and if you know the history of Florence in that era, you will know that it was open about homosexuality to a degree that Germans used the word Florenzer (Florentine) as a slangword for homosexual, so if Da Vinci was gay, there was no reason for him to hide it, and as said in the show, no one was really tried because of it, and the accusation was done anonymously using a letter which was not signed, and if indeed Leonardo was gay, i don't think he is the type to hide, he is rebellious man who didn't care about others opinions and taboos, if he thinks that something is not wrong but is considered a taboo by the majority, he will simply say fu*k the majority
he was probably asexual, very much like Tesla
or he wasn't intrigued by the act of sex itself, but by the beauty of faces and "sensuous dispositions",

he was simply hard to defines
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May 12, 2013
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May 12, 2013
Why is this so important to people? Whether Da Vinci was hetero, gay or bi-sexual, who cares? That's far from the most important aspect of his persona.
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May 12, 2013
Uh. Apparently you don't. He found sex jn general disgusting. The qualifier is added by you. Those sorts of accusations were and are still today often political in nature; accusations are not convictions or truth. There's no compelling evidence on either side. The best supported argument was that he was asexual, but claiming to know any of the positions as historical fact, well, you might as well claim to know Jesus's shoe size. There's little to no information to draw from here. Don't spread speculation as fact even if it is speculation by scholars. It's irresponsible and unethical and hurts your case.
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May 12, 2013
You can type, learn to read. Particularly, l2read the things you've typed: "and anything that has any relation to it".
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May 12, 2013
You do know what procreational sex is, don't you? It's sex between a man and a woman that results in reproduction. Procreational sex is impossible between two people of the same gender.

I haven't added any "qualifier". If you have a problem with the use and meaning of the term 'procreational sex', take it up with the ghost of Leonardo da Vinci, not me.

Leonardo da Vinci:

"The act of procreation and anything that has any relation to it is so disgusting that human beings would soon die out if there were no pretty faces and sensuous dispositions"

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May 12, 2013
God bless you
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May 11, 2013
After rereading that section. I think my privilege definitely needed to be checked, or at the very least, I needed to be more clear. It's not a good thing that the writers are pushing "it was just a phase" as far as giving a message to the real world goes and I can understand why people are unhappy with it. I was honestly bracing myself to rage over the fact that at the end of last week's episode and throughout most of this one, the audience was led to believe that Leonardo was this poor innocent victim in a smear campaign, and that the relationship had never happened at all, effectively continuing to present their version of Leo as super straight while also implying that a man sleeping with another man is a negative thing deserving of ostracization. That would have been an incredibly insulting cop out.

However, they could have also very easily just not addressed it at all and if anyone pointed out the historical facts, they could have said "Well, it's a fantasy show and it's not meant to be biographical" which I think would have also been a terrible disservice to Da Vinci and his audience.

What I'm saying is, the writers gave themselves a good start. It's the first season. The show was picked up for a second. As a network, Starz has shown that it's not against spotlighting gay relationships, so who knows where Da Vinci's story will go-- but if I insulted you, I'm sorry. It certainly wasn't my intention, and I understand that as a hetero woman, I'm in an awkward position to get unduly excited about representation that others point out is actually kind of crappy.
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May 11, 2013
Verified historical evidence. LOL.
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May 12, 2013
Yes, verified historical evidence. Read my above reply to DonovanBrown.
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May 12, 2013
Please, there is no such a thing as "verified historical evidence". What we have in history is evidence of varying degrees of reliability. We can therefore make conclusions with more or less certainty but to know anything in history as an indisputable fact? Not so much.
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May 11, 2013
"acknowledge the fact that historically, there is ample evidence pointing to Leo being into men. "

Oh really? There's a lot of people with opinions but the "evidence" is very sparse. I keep seeing people say this but most of the evidence points towards him being celibate most his life. That's because there was very little documentation about who he got around with, and for someone so popular that was rare.

I'm really not sure where the obsession with his sexual identity comes from, especially the need to talk about " [the show is] going to emphasize the fact that their Leonardo Da Vinci is mostly hetero with some bisexual experimentation thrown in"

I'm with Da Vinci here. Why we need to label the guy at all? Nobody can define him! Even though technically he'd simply be bisexual. Not "3/4 hetero and 1/4 gay"
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May 11, 2013
This is true and frankly, I'm sick of talking about who this Leonardo sleeps with myself. But if the show is going to give us a whole storyline dedicated to explaining their stance on his sexuality, I kind of have to talk about it.
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May 11, 2013
You know, a lot of LGBT people are tired of talking about who this Leo is sleeping with too. But when LGBT representation is just so small, we focus on what we've got. And this time it was rubbish.
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May 11, 2013
Eh? You need to learn how to compare things. This time, you got a plainly acknowledged relationship with another man. All the other episodes he's played straight as an arrow with maybe a teeny tiny bit of innuendo. Would you have preferred another one of those? If you absolutely must rank things on a scale, all the other episodes are rubbish and this was considerably more, even if it wasn't everything you could have hoped for. Absolutely all social issues aside, you're just a malcontent with a bad attitude. It's kind of a crap show and you're not going to do anything by holding it to such a high standard other than make yourself unhappy.
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May 11, 2013
Even though the evidence was speculative, it would seem plausible that Leonardo was into men. On the show it seemed more like he went through a "Lesbian Phase". Remember he's curious by nature, even he said that he was curious about men then.

Now what I love about this episode was how Leonardo still won against all the odds stacked against him. A corrupted judge, a bribing lawyer, a "illegal search" to his home, even seemed like the Medici's abandoned him, But he still came out on top. with style to boot.
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May 11, 2013
:P I forgot a smiley to set the tone of that post....
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