Dexter "Argentina" Review: Love Is a Four-letter Word

Dexter S7E08: “Argentina”

I've spent a lot of time in this space praising Dexter for spotlighting Deb and Jennifer Carpenter this season. The show is succeeding, perhaps like never before, because it is taking Deb’s emotions and thought process very seriously. But after two episodes in a row with her blurting out powerful, but troubling statements, I’m curious about where the show wants to take the character over the final 16 episodes of its existence.

I know that many of you have been waiting for this moment. Deb finally told Dexter that she is in love with him, or at least was. Or maybe still is. She isn’t sure. But she does know that she showed up at the church that night to tell him and just happened to find him killing Travis Marshall. Now she knows all of this stuff about her brother and that knowledge has complicated her feelings toward him—but they are still there, and they have definitely had an impact on Deb’s choice to keep protecting and/or helping Dexter on the reg this season.

Nevertheless, it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me why Deb would bring up her feelings for Dexter now. Sure, Deb isn’t the most logical of individuals, and maybe you could argue that in the moment after she discoverd that Dexter might be in love with Hannah, she was confused, hurt, and jealous, but it still seems like a weird time to say something that dramatic and complicated. It’s not that I think the show shouldn’t have returned to this thread, because it should have. But it does seem like the writers wanted another big moment to cap off this episode and decided to shoehorn in Deb’s admission because that was the biggest move they had in their pocket. The moment was powerful and certainly well performed by Carpenter and Michael C. Hall, but it also felt very constructed and inorganic (as much as these things can, at least).

The onus is now on Dexter to determine how he feels about Deb—spoiler alert: not the same—but I’m very interested in how the show will move forward with Deb from here. It’s one thing for her to have confusing, lusty thoughts about Dexter; it’s an entirely different thing for her to let those feelings out and let them further complicate her relationship with her brother. Does this make Deb expendable? Some might say yes, but I really hope not. She has become the best part of the show, and I want to watch her deal with the aftermath of this choice. Still, while I admire Dexter’s ballsy nature this season, and I while I want the show’s most important relationship to be a complex as possible, the way this went down didn’t quite work for me. In short: I mostly like the result, but I didn’t enjoy the execution.

All told, I will say that I enjoyed “Argentina” quite a bit and I especially enjoyed the final conversation between Dexter and Deb that again reinforced this season’s emphasis on honest conversation. For a few episodes, Dexter the show and Dexter the character slipped into their older, familiar rhythms of deception and murder, wherein Dex wasn’t too interested in sharing anything important with Deb again.

But this episode blew that up, thankfully. Dexter attempted to concoct ways to avoid his family and to keep them from Hannah. There was a dumb amount of maneuvering early on with Dexter bringing the kids, including the returning Cody and Astor, to Deb’s, but then spending a whole lot of time with them anyway (begrudgingly, but still). The scenes were accompanied by some typically dull voice over discussion about what family does or does not mean. However, once Dexter finally decided to be honest with both Hannah and Deb, “Argentina” began to feel more like this season’s stronger episodes instead of like the more problematic ones we’ve seen recently.

It helps that Hannah is one of the more complex characters that the show has created. Hannah is clearly as dangerous as Deb thinks she is, but the show is doing a great job of displaying her depth and humanity as well. Sure, she is a killer and doesn’t seem to have the same kind of code that Dexter has (or at least thinks he has), but she is also scarred by her actions and seems to be haunted a little by how her murderous ways have impacted her desire to have a normal life. In the past, Dexter has explored the reasons why the lead character’s opponents/victims have killed, but rarely has the show truly dedicated time to any guest baddie’s desires outside of killing. Hannah feels like a human being, demented nature and substantive flaws and all, rather than just an obstacle that Dexter has to overcome. Maybe I’m being too sympathetic to the character because of who's playing her, but I like Hannah’s complexities and I especially like how her presence has pushed Dexter to think about who he is and what he wants.

And I guess that’s the big question, right? This show has spent years allowing Dexter to skate away from consequences, the truth and real desires outside of killing. In a lot of ways, Dexter is just a blunt killer and his ecstasy over being able to share that truth with Hannah is both engrossing and disturbing. Thankfully, the show is now using Deb as the half-assed moral compass who can call Dexter out on his demented bullshit—yet I have to imagine that it wants to push toward a more textured conclusion for its lead character than simply, “Welp, he’s a killer.”

Now more than ever, Dexter has lots of masters to serve. He has his own personal urges with the Dark Passenger and that nonsense. He has to keep Deb close, but he also has to determine what he means to her and vice versa. He has to figure out what this relationship with Hannah means, and how it could change him (i.e., is being more open about himself going to lead to the destruction of the code?). He has kid(s) to worry about. And oh yeah, he still has to deal with Isaak*, who respects him but can’t give up, and he'll eventually have to put LaGuerta down as well.

Dexter’s route to freedom or self-actualization or whatever you want to call it isn’t as simple as it once was, which is a great thing for the show right now, but one that I hope the writers can make work without relying on simplistic processes. I don’t want Dexter to go off the deep end into complete and total evil, nor do I want him to be as protected and cuddly as recent seasons have let him become. He's currently in a dark middle ground, and the show is going to have to work to keep him there.

* Like Hannah, Isaak has quickly grown into one of the show’s best non-Morgan characters ever. Ray Stevenson brings so much to the role. I would love it if Isaak stuck around past this season, but that might not be a sustainable move based on how the story is progressing. But maybe, just maybe, Dexter and Isaak can team up against George and the rest of the Ukrainians who want to take Isaak out?

Ultimately, “Argentina” was a fine middle-of-the-season episode, thanks mostly to continued great work of the show's lead actors. And while I started this review with some big questions about where Deb is headed and finished it with similar thoughts for Dexter, the fact that the show is forcing me to think about how the most integral pieces of the story fit together means that it's probably doing a darn good job.



NOTES


– Astor got old. She also got bangs and a strong desire to smoke pot. Cool. More seriously, however, I’ve always enjoyed her relationship with Dexter, and so even though it was contrived to bring her back now, their conversation on the beach almost made it worthwhile.

– Batista took over the restaurant and changed... absolutely nothing. Why was the former owner selling? Wouldn’t that suggest there were problems? Or wouldn’t Batista want to change something to put his personal stamp on the operation? Wait, don’t answer ANY OF THAT.

Aimee Garcia looked very nice in her bathing suit.

– LaGuerta found Dexter’s boat! At this rate, she'll find a real piece of evidence by Season 3 of the Dexter spin-off, Masuka.


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Deb brought it up on the news of how Dex feels about Hannah, and in desperation from losing him , blurts it out.... Shes kept that in for a while and its nothing small.... He was definetely unsure, she had a little to work it out, he didnt have the chance... but seriuosly the writing sucked cause realistically , this issue should have been followed up based on the characters personalities.
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I'm really starting to like this whole season. It might even be better than S05.

Carpenters performances are awsome since she gets to show what she's capable of.
I think by trying to show, what LOVE can do to us, the show has taken the main characters to some new and seemingly weird places. That seems to be the case for Deb (with Dex), for Dex (with Hanna), for Isaac (with his lover) and even for Quinn (with his hooker). Even LaGuerta seems to be acting like a real cop because of her love for Dokes. So, love seems to be the theme of the hour.

Not really a theme I expected from a show like Dexter, but so far they are doing a great job at it. And the are getting some great acting from their cast.

To bad they only have one season left to go.
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Really loved this episode. I wholly agree on Isaac, Ray Stevenson is killing it. The conversation between Dexter and Isaac in the gay bar was fantastic. Also, big props to Jennifer Carpenter on the acting in the scene with her spilling her guts to dexter about her feelings. She murdered it.
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WHAT AN EPISODE!
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It's ridiculous.

Deb was a decent cop, now she thinks it's ok to kill bad people. Dexter, who was a sociopath, now falls in love with a serial killer.

Their behavior is completely illogical. This show was amazing until the end of season 4, now it doesn't make any sense.
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It seems everybody is missing the BIG point. Will Isaac turn Dexter and which one will be Ennis Del Mar and who will be Jack Twist?
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"Batista took over the restaurant and changed... absolutely nothing."

Actually he changed one thing significantly, the restaurant is now a cop restaurant, somewhere cops know they can go with their families and they will be surrounded by kindred spirits, that will positively impact the restaurants revenues significantly.
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Doughnuts and bacon?
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I really hope they go more into that crazy psychiatrist's back story because she pushed Deb into thinking she was in love with Dexter, which she clearly wasn't until that quack told her she was.
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She has a pivotal role next season but dies randomly in a goat-baiting incident.
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I'm okay with that. Hopefully she sets poor Deb's mind right before her demise.
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I love your analysis of Hannah and you might be right, but the way she acted totally convincingly during the interrogation scene a couple of episodes ago and the confrontation with Deb in this episode I have a hard time trusting anything she says. Her lying is on a PhD. degree level. Were Dexter can lie because he doesn't show emotion. Hannah Lies with her emotions. Dexter is gonna be hit hard by Hannah because she is patient as well.
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So glad Dexter has been better this season. I'm actually looking FWD to new episodes, unlike last season.
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I don't know why you would think it was a weird time for Deb to tell Dexter she loved him, you implied you knew exactly why in the review; she was confused, hurt, and jealous after Dexter was forced to admit his relationship with Hannah.

I loved the Masuka comment, but come on guys, LaGuerta has at least been tolerable this season, and that's only because the writers have given her minimal screen time and made her seem like a good detective for once.
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I found this to be one of the most compelling episodes of Dexter we have seen in a long time. This episode, more than any in recent memory, spoke to the heart of the existential crisis that has defined Dexter Morgan as we know him, connecting him in a personal way to the audience, while at the same time showcasing some breathtaking performances from Jennifer Carpenter and Ray Stevenson.

It is easy to examine the impact of the revelation of Dexter's truth on Debra considering the writers serve it to us on a platter, but Dexter is often more circuitous in his self-examination, almost as if his constant effort to present the image he believes everyone expects to see blinds him at times to the obvious questions and relevant answers inherent in his circumstances. Dexter hasn't yet fully explored how Deb's reaction to his truth, or lack thereof, impacts him and how he sees Deb, or how this has altered his worldview. But we see in Dexter's conversation with Astor on the beach that unconsciously Dexter holds Deb as a guiding force in his life, he internalizes her beliefs, opinions and actions in much the way he did Harry's, perhaps more so, certainly not in the context of the parent/child relationship, but as more than the average peer, professional or sibling roles they commonly interact in.

One of the best scenes of the episode was Dexter and Deb confronting Astor about the pot, when they surprised each other with the unexpectedly insightful and deeply personal, universal parenting points, revealing a great deal about themselves and their influence on each other, which may arguably be as powerful as Harry's influence upon them both. Harry and his beliefs are deeply embedded in both the Morgan children, have driven and defined nearly everything these two characters have done in their lives thus far, and it wasn't until Deb asked Dexter to consider that Harry erred in his estimation of Dexter and the chosen course in teaching him the Code that Dexter truly began to question that foundation that Harry had taught him, rather than rebel against it as he had in previous seasons. On the beach, with Astor, we see Dexter musing about what might have been if it had been Deb's view, rather than Harry's, that had defined and shaped Dexter's life, and when Astor tells Dexter, "For the record, you didn't turn out so bad," Dexter initially flashes her that deflective little smile that has been his shield and armor, but he looks down distantly contemplative, gives a slight shake of his head, leaving us to wonder which of his inner demons is whispering in his ear in that moment before he promises Astor that the marijuana will remain a secret.

No good ever came from any statement that began with, "If you loved me..." and so Deb's revelation to Dexter about the nature of her feelings for him on the heels of Dexter uttering this totally loaded conditional should come as no surprise. It is said that we hurt most the ones we love, and Dexter, for all his development in certain areas of his life, arrived late to pursuing and embracing the forming of bonds and attachments. All too often he is guilty of taking these for granted and none in his life more so than Deb. We can forgive him some of his ignorance and ineptitude when it comes to dealing with women in any context because we know that he is in reality terribly inexperienced; until first Lila, with whom he shared a tumultuous and conflicted combination of lusts, and then Lumen, with whom he shared pain and the first true love he'd allowed himself to experience, Dexter has been removed from the complications of emotional bonds, attachments and motivations that drive and guide the majority of people around him, choosing instead to fabricate bonds and emotions he did not feel in order to keep up appearances.

The scene in the bar between Issak and Dexter drove home a major point that, if Harry's apparition is any indication, exists for Issak in contradiction to what Dexter believed to be true of love. Harry tells Dexter that it makes sense Deb is in love with him because she believes all his lies, is willing to give up everything she believes in for Dexter; the implication here that this is the behavior of the desperate and foolish, a belief that clearly upsets Dexter but one he chooses not to confront. But Issak counters this in the bar when they speak of losing their spouses, of the true unconditional nature of that love. What follows may be one of the most profound and intelligent conversations concerning love and one's place in the world that Dexter has ever had with anyone in his life.

When he asks in the closing monologue, "No matter where we go we take ourselves, and our damage, with us. So is home the place we run to, or is it the place we run from, only to hide out in places where we're accepted, unconditionally, places that feel more like home to us, because we can finally be who we are?" we understand that Dexter has chosen to apply Issak's words about how "inconvenient, perhaps inappropriate, ...even dangerous" love can be and the nearly impossible ideal of finding that place in the world where those on the periphery do not need to pretend, to his attachment to Hannah and the escape he finds in her, But it can be said that the truths explored therein better describe Debra, who and what she is for Dexter, what she has given to and for him, and what will ultimately be asked of her in the name of the love she has for him.

If we forgive Dexter some of his foibles given his inexperience and at times lack of understanding of the deeper truths of love and life, we should not make the mistake of excusing all of his actions under these auspices. Despite the terrible losses already incurred, Dexter continues to place his family and those he cares for in harm's way, and as they say, "that which we resist, persists," Karma and debts to be paid, the Universe abhors imbalance, etc. Evidently Dexter is the sort who only learns his lessons the hard way. Sadly, it seems to be the people around him that bear the steep costs.
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That's a thorough analysis of a script that was clearly written on a napkin during somebody's lunch break.
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The best news this season is producing is that it seems LaGuerta will finally get offed. Hopefully in some horribly violent way.
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I hope you're right :)
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I hate Hanna, I hope they kill her, deb broke my heart and poor Isaak, awesome episode
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Poor Isaak? first let's not forget that his poor boyfriend Victor died, why?, because he killed a friggin cop Mike Anderson oh yeah and that woman in the trunk as well as countless others. Than there's poor Isaak, how many people has he killed that we have seen so far? Well there was the guy and the icepick, the setup in the bar was self dfense Ill give you that, but than he also forced a man to commit suicide and we don't know for sure he did what he said he would to for the guy's family, would gladly kill Deb, the other cops, and the kids just to destroy Dexter. Than there's Hannah killed at 15 in the heat of the moment and than also when she was threatened and does have some remorse. But poor Isaak doesn't give a flying fuck who he hurts or kills if they get in his way. So yeah they are all 3 killers,
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can't you just let me be? and yes i hate hanna, killing someone because he doesn't want to have a family with you? hey I have a best idea why don't you just leave him? or sal prize who was onto her, poor baby she just had to kill him right? please, i don't see her too sad for those killings. Anyway can't we just have different opinions?
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Of course we can have different opinions, if I came off as attacking you to hurt you personally was not my intention and I apologize. Anyway while it seemed like I was only condemning Isaak and not Hannah I wasn't. Hannah is a killer, she has killed innocent people there is no denying that. But the difference between isaak and Hannah is that Isaak killed anyone without any reason, a screwdriver in that dudes eye for not knowing where Victor was, Louis cuz he was on the boat not that I cared about Louis, all the others he killed and disposed without remorse like they were tissues. Hannah killed when she thought she was threatened, and at least I think has some remorse. Neither one of their killings were justified so saying fuck Hannah she's evil, and poor Isaak cuz he lost his boyfriend comes off as kind of hypocritical, that's all I was saying.
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You hate Hanna, but "poor Isaak"? Isaak is a gangster and a professional killer. I'm sure he killed many more people than Hanna.
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yeah i don't like the character and yes poor Isaak his boyfriend died come on!! and yes I know that he is a killer but then dexter is a killer too, he only kills bad people but in the end they are both killers
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I don't think cinthy_11 hates hannah because she's a killer :P
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Argentina? I don't want those two nut jobs in my neighborhood! It's funny Argentina might sound like a refuge for people like Hanna, while Miami is the same for many South Americans.

OK... I think the writers have put Deb into a corner and there's no way they can portray her as sane anymore to justify the way the story is taking. let's see.

Deb, a serious, law-abiding police officer, who has made the system her whole life, has found out that...
- Dexter is a serial killer.
- Doakes, an innocent man, was framed as the Bay Harbor Butcher, she has never really asked for details on how he died and what Dexter's involvement in his death was, and she has never questioned whether Dexter has killed anyone else innocent.
- Dexter is now protecting a killer with no principles, Hanna McKay, who is directly responsible for the death of someone she knew and could come to care for, the crime writer...

And after all that, her biggest concern is "why doesn't Dexter love me the way I do?" Again, I think Deb is losing it and insanity, or at least a nervous breakdown is the only explanation for her character's inconsistencies.

No matter how much Deb loves Dexter, I don't see anything natural about the way she's accepting his dark nature.
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Cory, I think you were too generous in your moderate praise for this episode. Carpenter was superb, Hall was a little wooden and as ever the writers did their best to destroy the show.

Did nobody else pick up on the chemistry between Dexter and Isaac? Perhaps the writers are saving that gem for next season, when LaGuerta finds out that Dexter was adopted...
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Did you not see my comment on the previous episode...Isaac is bromancing Dexter massively.
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I missed that - too busy criticising the writers. Bromancing was a good call, though now I fear the relationship is destined to become more serious. Perhaps Isaac will come around to the idea of running off to Argentina with Dexter?
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Am I the only one STOKED that the last episode of the season is called, "Surprise Motherfucka"!!!!!
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That is definitely something Doakes would say
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oh and his girlfriend too with the bad eastern european accent.....so bad !
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"Queeeeen" is the most boring and predictable sucker.
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The best episode so far this season, the conversation between Isaac and Dexter in the bar was brilliant!!!

- Hannah and Dexter's conversation at the beach, and their hug at the end was amazing! SO much chemistry! I loved it!
- Deb's love confession was more or less expected, i find it a bit hilarious when she mentioned that he is a serial killer and she is more messed up then he is.
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Yes Quinn must die !
can we have the worst character on a tv series?
I vote for Quinn
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He is the anti-Masuka. good call.
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Isaak and Hannah are definitely the best characters on the show right now who's names don't begin with a D. I truly wish they could stick around, and Laguerta and Quinn could die. I also wouldn't mind Astor and Cody back, especially Astor, it's much easier to examine Dexter's duel life as a father with Astor than it is with Harrison, as Harrison is too young to have any personality.
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Agree about the kids, it's interesting to see how he compares his own upbringing (with also a dad who wasn't his biological father) with hers.
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Great episode. But I have to say, everytime Hannah shows up, I yawn. I just don't care about her, she is quite boring imo. Whenever Isaac, Dexter and Deb are on the screen, I get excited again. OMG the bar scene. One of the best scenes in the show. Kudos to Mr Stevenson, he is awesome in this role. I am hoping he sticks around a bit longer.
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Are you guys serious, this was an insanely good episode. So good. Throughout the whole episode, the dialogue was to die for. How do you guys not understand why deb has brought this up? She concluded she was in love with him, and after that all those feelings got swept under the carpet to solve the 'oh, he's a serial killer' problem first. During this time, Deb didn't see Dex with anyone else, so she never got the jealousy feelings triggered. However she felt towards him in a more romantic manner, that never changed despite all the saw about him. Once she realized he could be in love with another woman who is a killer herself... she couldn't stop herself. It overcame her and she spilled the beans. Totally logical and in fact, expected as far as I'm concerned.

I'm having a hard time believing how much this show has turned good, after the disaster that was last season. More of this please. I hope dex goes all guns blazing with Isaak in the finale, after LaGuerta blows the whistle on him.
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I agree with you one hundred percent, and I have this feeling that in these final 4 eps in the season, when everything kicks into high gear, somehow in the middle of Isaak and Dex playin cat and mouse with eachother, they will get into a situation where they are both the mice. Than in perhaps classic comic book fashion, the hero and the archenemy call a temporary truce when a greater threat to both of them arrises meaning the brotherhood, and they must fight together. Than when it's all said and done probably in the finale when nit seems like that maybe Isaak might have a change of heart, he betrays Dex cuz he has no heart. But Dexter is smart and it would be really interesting for Dex to betray Isaak first. Oh and Laguerta sure she will choose to confront Dexter herself, the name of the finale is "Suprise Motherfucker!" something Doakes used to say. She will want to kill Dexter herself and get revenge, which is one of this season's themes, and I could see her confronting him kind of like Trinity and "Hello Dexter Morgan" Than either Dex will have to kill her in self defense, or what would be even more crazy Deb shows up and is forced to kill her to save Dex
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This is the worst season of Dexter.
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Yes I agree about the awful irrational and out of character storyline that Deb is in love with Dex. I want to know what the writers were friggin smoking or what drus they were on when they came up with that idea. However saying that this is the worst season you could NOT be more wrong. And if you think that it's the worst season simply cuz of the Deb in love story, which by the way only just came up in episode 8 for one scene than you are out of your mind, this season is is epic, I think episode 4 "Run" was one of if not my favorite of the whole series
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Its not going to be for just one episode though.
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I think you only think that because you die in it, Louis.
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Yeah really! What was up with that? Happened so quickly.
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You haven't seen season 5.
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Ironic comment is ironic. You are just saying that because you were killed by Isaak too quickly. =D
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Ive seen every season and every episode a million times. Deb being in love with Dexter is the worst storyline in any show ever. It ruins the show.
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Ok yes Deb being in love with Dex IS the worst storyline ever, but from what we have seen they have squashed the idea now that Deb knows. But saying it ruins the entire show is unfair cuz there is plenty of other things going on.
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The Hannah storyline is also terrible, feels very forced.
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I truly hated the stuff about Deb loving her brother last season, but I loved how they brought it up here, it feels like a good thing to truly bring into the mix at this point, and it makes Dexter's story way more similar to Hannah's past, which I like. And the scene was so well acted, that I almost forgot that Claire Danes deserve all the future Emmy's.

Isaak also turned out to be great in this episode, prior to their bar scene, I more or less assumed he was trying to revenge someone who was secretly his son, and that he was fairly boring other than that. The conversation between them felt like Ruby/Brian-tier stuff, and I enjoyed the hell out of it. I really hope they do more talking, and less trying to kill each other.

Hannah has also become my favorite love interest of Dexter overall in the show, and I really hope they don't end up killing her.
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As a writer I would have LOVED to be in on writing the dialogue for this episode.
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You do realise the writers pluck stories from a tombola and dialogue from fortune cookies, bumper stickers and the back catalogue of Dawson's Creek? Those Dexter/Hannah scenes were awfully reminiscent of Dawson/Joey (i.e., they were dreadfully dull). Clearly the Avon Lady kill was tossed in to pad out the numerous heart-to-heart scenes that once again would have fallen flat but for Carpenter's acting.
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I don't like Hannah, she is too evil. She kills to kill. One of the reasons, I liked Dexter is his code. Hannah doesn't have a code. She is a straight up killer which I know Dexter is also but at least he is using his evil for good. I think Hannah is Dex's brother all over again. Who will he choose Hannah or Deb? I hope Deb. Also, I love how LaGuerta is slowly coming to the realization that Dex is the killer. I think it is more realistic after working with him for so long and never having a clue. Remember when she had a thing for Dex? LoL. I am very curious to see where the Quinn storyline is going. Love Isaak.
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>”Also, I love how LaGuerta is slowly coming to the realization that Dex is the killer. I think it is more realistic after working with him for so long and never having a clue. Remember when she had a thing for Dex? LoL.”<

Actually, if you look at the Dexter books (spoiler), in Season 7, so far, the writers have finally pulled two plot points from the first book. They wisely realized that, in a series, major revelations and plot points can be delayed, and should be, to a later season when we have more build-up, more invested in the characters, when the relationships have been drawn out, and the characters fully developed. They did pay for the rights to the first two books, so it makes sense that they’d eventually choose to use more of Book 1’s plot twists (Book LaGuerta also had a crush on Dex). First, in Book 1, Deb finds out about Dex when Brian tries to have Dex kill her, because in the book she’s fully awake and remembers, unlike in the tv show Season 1 finale. Secondly, in Book 1, the other big plot point toward the end is that LaGuerta figures out that Dex is a killer, shortly before (third plot point) dying herself. I’ve been waiting for these three storylines for 7 years. Now two have come true. Will the third?
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I do not I agree with your characterization of Hannah. The first person we know she killed with Wayne Randall in the heat of the moment. The second, her mentor, we know from the handyman's dialogue had been ill and in terrible pain for some time prior to when Sal Price alleges that Hannah poisoned her. The third victim, Hannah's late husband, insisted she undergo an abortion, though I am not clear on all the circumstances there, and Hannah may have felt justified is taking him out. To me, Hannah seems like a human being a little too in touch with her dark side for the comfort of average folk, but I wouldn't put her in the Ice Truck Killer's league by any stretch of the imagination. Perhaps there is more about her yet to be revealed, but thus far she comes across as an unusually self aware young woman with strange and often unfortunate taste in men.
And I totally hate LaGuerta - she is every wrong stereotype personified. I am ambivalent who ends her, but wish her dead already.
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We will have to agree to disagree on Hannah. I am not feeling her at all. I am not convince her motives for killing her mentor were that innocent. Also, that "usually self aware young woman" definitely got a thrill for her trophies from killing those innocent people when she was with Wayne Randall. I might agree with you had that not been made so clear in the series. As for LaGuerta, I think she is definitely cold at times but she has given Deb some good advice on how to handle herself. I do like her but I respect the character. I think it is interesting they producers chose her as the person to finally get on Dexter trail. I always thought it would have been Batista. All least the show is not boring. We are talking about it.
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Lot's of successful restaurant owner/managers sell because they are tired. Running a restaurant is hard work and very long hours. Also he may be taking time with his changes (although that would be behavior against type)
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This is exactly how I imagined that Deb would tell Dexter how she feels about him. In the middle of conversation, super out of place. No surprise there it's her style really. I am not sure he has no feelings for her. Remember the first reaction of Deb when the therapist ask her if she is in love with her brother? I don't know if he had the time to think about this. I can't wait for him to stop and actually process this. He is busy you know ... And LaGuerta finding the boat and read slice of life on it...That was great really I wonder if she is going to be next victim for Dex?
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I love these conversations he has with these killers.....they sense/know what he is, he knows what they are and this makes for a much more intimate and honest conversation/relationship....Isaak is right, in other circumstances they could've been friends.....I loveeed the bar scene, it was so natural, credible and strong....made me actually like Isaak for the first time.....I also love love love Dexter and Hannah's chemistry!!! She's by far the most suitable person for him so far ( Lumen being the second...I just hated Rita and Lila was it?).... I hope they don't kill her off pleaseeee!!! Also I can't stand Laguerta, I hope we get rid of her by season's end.....As for Quinn I feel sorry for him, he's a complete ass and always getting himself into stupid situations....I'm not sure where he'll end up if this goes on like this.....
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Total agreement, except Quinn...TSL.
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What the f happened? Deb in love with Dex? What? That's insane! I've abandoned 6 season in its middle scared away by bad scripting and all the insanity and I've only remembered that lady shrink blurted out possible love thing between Deb and Dex and Deb nervously laughed at it back then. so for me her confession in this episode is out of the blue. it's just ridiculous. I thought it was just shrink talking points. And it turns out that Deb was gonna confess to Dex in 6 seas finale! That's just weird man. I was speechless as Dexter was in that scene. Why Deb should be in love with Dex? it's sick.
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I couldn't agree more, I absolutely fucking hated that storyline even came up in the first place, and had hopes that the shrink would go on dex's radar and turn out to fit the code. Than he would not only put here on the table but the idea as well and end up in pieces in the ocean. But nooooooooo they just had to bring that BS up again just when Deb and Dex seemed like they were on the path to reconciling
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"You're a serial killer and I'm more fucked up than you are."
Haha, I love that line.

I was kiiiiiind of hoping that the Deb being IN love with Dex plot was going to be abandoned and just left to die last season, but whatever. The way that story was used didn't hurt the episode, although it may have been a little awkward to watch.

Dex and Isaak in the bar was great. Isaak being gay wasn't a surprise by any means, but it is still a "revelation" of sorts and I think they revealed it well. There may be many ways that the first few seasons of Dexter are far superior to recent seasons, but Ray Stevenson and Yvonne Strahovski may be two of the best guest stars they've had on this show. I was a fan of both before they appeared on Dexter, but I love them more now.
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You deserve a lot of likes for this comment. I don't have to write a comment myself now :)
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if anyone is going to take dexter down please don't let it be the worst detective /character LaGuerta, cause that's just insulting!.
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FYI Astor is a "she", not a "he".
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Yeah, thanks. Just a copy edit issue.
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Did I miss something, or did you gloss over the incredible scene in the bar between ray stevenson and Michael C. Hall? That scene was amazing, it really grounded Isaak as a character, and added leagues of depth. Stevenson pulled off the pain very well, and it was a very believable scene. IMO, it really helped make this season's villain sympathetic, and one of the better match ups compared to the past few years. Colin Hanks? WTF.
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Yeah I just briefly alluded to it. But Stevenson is tremendous. Not really a fair comparison for Colin Hanks, but yeah.
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So end of season cliff-hanger : LaGuerta finds out about Dexter, then goes to Deb so see what she knows. Deb puts a bullet between LaGuerta's eyes which turns Deb into Hannah 2.0
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Astor, the cliched annoying teenager. This episode was good. Filler ep. I want Dexter to team up with Issak and take down everyone. Quinn, wtf.
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For a middle of the season episode, it was pretty good. I liked Dexter and Astor's discussion on the beach but by far the best scene was Dexter and Issac at the bar. What could have simply been a 2 guys at a bar scene became so much more.

I never saw the reveal of Issac coming and thought that Victor was his brother or son. Some think that this ruins the character but I think it strengthens him and gives him something he shares with Dexter.

I know that Issac will likely die by the end of the season but his character will be one of the strongest bad guys since Trinity.
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The bar scene between Dexter and Isaak was not only the best scene of the episode but one of the best the show has done. The ending was excellent too.
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Agreed. Loved the montage at the end.
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Jennifer, here is your EMMY!
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More like, here is a double double animal style :)
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The scene felt a bit forced, but man, she absolutely KILLED it. Is it wrong that I've never found her as pretty as when she looked up at Dexter asking for his response? She was magnificent and gorgeous in that scene.
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If only.
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Wow, I loved Ray Stevenson's ice-cold-killer-mob/mafia-boss, but now they decide to make him a big ol' softy by making him a poor misunderstood gay person - surrounded by people who, for some reason, wouldn't like having a gay boss - out to kill Dexter because he killed his sweetheart?
... And his arc was going so strong...
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Wasn't it pretty obvious from the start (or at least from the moment when Dex found the hidden picture of Isaak in Viktor's apartment) that this is where they were going with it?
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It was obvious to me, at least. I recall mentioning weeks ago. Still, the reveal was well-played.
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Isaak/Dexter convo was fantastic. Adds depth. Didn't ruin it for me.
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You think his arc is ruined because of that?
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I think this newest revelation about his character only makes his arc stronger. It adds a layer of complexity to the "ice-cold-killer-mob/mafia-boss" cliche. It also explains why he is so hell bent on killing Dexter. And even in this enlightened age, most criminal organizations are still fairly prejudiced and homophobic. He had to hide his true self to his world. Just like Dexter.

In my opinion, his conversation with Dexter at the end of the episode is one of the highlights of this season.
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@FringeFanatic, I agree, having traveled and spent time working in several former Soviet Block nations, many things are yet taboo, especially homosexuality. There was no way Issak could have been open about the true nature of his relationship with Viktor, which may have been a factor in Viktor's homicidal tendencies toward women.
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@jekelish & @tobosh - Fair enough.
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The conversation was definitely very good and well acted. My only qualm was that they played the old "under different circumstances we could have been friends" cliche, when that much was already implied by the preceding dialogue. They don't have to spell EVERYTHING out for us.
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I agree, their conversation was awesome. And I also see how it adds up, strenghtens his motives. It just feels far-fetched to me...
Also, I don't see his arc ruined, just nicked.
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"You are a serial killer and I am more fucked up than you are!"
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I was really hoping that the show has abandoned the whole Debra being in love with Dexter angle and just had her being the concerned sister again. It just brings in a dynamic that the show does not need.

Instead of having Debra being jealous about Hannah and Dexter, the show should have played her concern that Hannah will cause Dexter to fall deeper into his darkness and abandon his code. The reemergence of the romance storyline is just a bit off.
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That's sort of where I am. It made for great drama (and great work for Carpenter), but I'm not exactly sure how it ends. Hope it doesn't mean Deb is not long for this world.
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Smorbie - Dex and Deb are not biological siblings....Dexter was adopted. Still kinda creepy, I guess, but then again, what makes show so great is that it's so creepy.
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Yeh, he was adopted.
We found out that Harry slept with Dexter's biological mother, as well as some of his other CI's, but I don't think it was stated that he was Harry's b@@@ard child.
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>"Yeh, he was adopted.
We found out that Harry slept with Dexter's biological mother, as well as some of his other CI's, but I don't think it was stated that he was Harry's b@@@ard child."<
>"It could well be though"<

Responding to the two posts above, in Season One it was definitively established that Dex was not Harry's illegitimate son, a logical suspicion once we found out that Harry had been sleeping with Laura Moser. In a flashback, we learned that Dex's biological father was approached by Harry when Dex needed a blood transfusion. Dex confirmed the identity of the guy who named Dex in his will as really being his father because Dex found his thanks-for-the-good-blood handmade greeting card in the dead guy's house. Secondly, Dex then had his Dept run a DNA test on blood he extracted from that guy's corpse, and the result was that it was a match. So, Dex and Deb are definitely not blood-related. It's still weird to have this I'm-in-love-with-you storyline, but not as much as it would be if Harry were Dex's secret biological father. And this infatuation storyline does add a very interesting layer of complexity to the new relationship that Dex and Deb are still trying to figure out, now that she knows about his hobby. Their dynamic is obviously forever changed by the revelation that he's a killer, but having it also be shaped by this infatuation adds even more tension to every future scene they'll have together.
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It could well be though
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I may have more thoughts later, but for now....Wow. That episode was fan-freakin-tastic, I loved it. I agree, Deb finding out about Hannah and the subsequent reveal did feel a bit contrived and forced, but I didn't care, the exchange between Deb and Dex more than made up for it.
I honestly don't have anything bad to say, every aspect of the episode was awesome. Easily 10/10 for me.
O and if Carpenter and Hall both don't win Emmys for their work this season...thats just not right
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They won't win. It'd be nice if Carpenter could get nominated though. All depends on how much Showtime puts behind her.
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I'd rather have Deb's crying face than Carrie's crying face...
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Agreed. It seems that once shows get a little over the hill, awards are heaped on the newest shows for the most part, no matter how much great work is done on them.
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She won't win because the Emmy people have no taste. But she totally should. Her character can be considered both "lead" and "supporting". I think that they should try to get her nominated in the supporting category, so that she won't have to compete with last year's winner Clare Danes, who is even better now than last year.
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Wait....aren't Deb and Dexter siblings? Doesn't that up the yikes factor for anyone?
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Yes, there were a lot of us during the reviews for last season arguing that it's still very much incestuous to be in love with an adopted sibling (I don't think step-brother is the right term for Dexter since their parents didn't marry each other)... and that incest is... uhh... gross? Yikes.
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They're only step-siblings. Still a bit creepy but not as bad as the Lancasters. lol
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Lannisters, not Lancasters.
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thank you. That was really bothering me.
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they are giving LaGuerta each scene to find one clue:D....of course this leads to this seasons finale "cliffhanger"

" In the past, Dexter has explored the reasons why the lead character's opponents/victims have killed, but rarely has the show truly dedicated time to any guest baddie's desires outside of killing. "
Well,that's because we get this from Dexter. Constant questions,self-doubts,etc.
If I pretend that scenes with kids and nanny and Batista,hooker and Quinn didn't exist,I can say I enjoyed episode very much.
Sure Astor,smoke all the pot you want. No,no,go ahead I insist.

Thank god Isaak,Deb and Dex carry show on their shoulders.
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You're obviously not Dutch...very normal to schmoke with your uncles and aunties.
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I loved Dexter and Isaac's talk at the end! Ray Stevenson killed it!
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He is truly awesome.
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I think I love Deb more after this episode.
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Why she is still alive *spoiler* In first Jeff Lindsay Dexter book she was allready killed :D
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@ Arska: dawww they should've done that seasons ago. No more LaGuerta please... worst.detective.ever.
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One thing I learned about books turning into series is it's going to be adaptation that means not everything will be according to the book but merely serves as an inspiration thus deriving 'loosely based on the novel by...' Yes, I also read Sex and the City, True Blood, Pretty Little Liars book series and it's not what is shown on TV. The closest thing I've seen for screen adaptation is Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone about 98% but not even great films like Godfather, Hannibal or LOTR is faithful to the book. Maybe you just have to choose one (medium) or the other .
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*Spoilers* In the first book Brian Moser kidnaps Debra but ends up killing LaGuerta instead. Debra stays alive
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