Dexter "Sunshine and Frosty Swirl" Review: Try to Make Dex Go to Rehab

Dexter S7E02: “Sunshine and Frosty Swirl”

Last week’s Season 7 premiere of Dexter reinstated a great deal of my confidence in the show, but not to the point that I was totally comfortable with things going into tonight's second episode. In the back of my mind, I couldn’t help but think that the show might try some kind of B.S. swerve or dream sequence chicanery that would side-step the big revelations of “Are You…?”. While I wish that weren't the case, years of evidence told me to stay on my toes with how far the show was willing to let Dexter and Deb discuss the secrets between them.

Thankfully, the show suppressed my reservations and ultimately proved me wrong. “Sunshine and Frosty Swirl” dug into Deb’s newfound knowledge in a somewhat un-Dexter-like fashion. Instead of giving us lots of yelling, screaming, and needle injections to the neck, Deb and Dexter spent much of the episode calmly discussing his problems and how she can solve them, and placing the blame so easily on the man who wasn’t there (well, you know, for real) to defend himself: Harry. The results were much more muted and perhaps glossed over the real gravity of the situation, but in the end they sketched out how Dexter can last for another 22 episodes without too much of a strain on its credibility.

The show could have easily used Deb's discovery of Dexter’s deep secrets as a way to create a sense of overblown, hyperbolic drama, with her threatening to turn him in and him trying stupid things to get out of it. However, one thing that the show rarely gets credit for is its ability to dial everything back after major but horrible moments. I’m seemingly one of the few people who enjoyed Season 5 (despite its litany of substantial problems) and the reason I did was that I appreciated how, for the most part, the show didn’t turn Dex into an even bigger maniac, instead forcing him to more quietly explore how he was going to live in the world without Rita. Although the killing certainly serves as an outlet—and catalyst—for most of his problems, Dexter regularly lets its title character turn inward to deal with his problems. The voiceover gets monotonous, but it can be used effectively in situations where Dexter really needs to be self-reflexive (and just not annoyingly sarcastic about whatever situation he's in).

That kind of low-key approach to the aftermath of a major conflict was on display in tonight's episode better than it has ever been. The opening minutes were powered by the more expected and conventional blow-up: shouting, accusations, name-calling, cursing, and threatening, all from Deb. But instead of flying off the handle, Deb actually let Dexter convince her to come back inside to discuss his Dark Passenger (seriously, that never stops being funny) and how he and Harry crafted the whole “killing people who deserve it” code.

I said this last week, but I want to mention it again here because it seems even truer now: This is basically the best time for Deb to figure all this stuff out, and not just because we viewers are ready for her to do so. She’s finally at a place in her life where she can emotionally handle a bomb of this size being dropped on her (well, at least as well as anyone could). Despite the greatly uneven nature of the last two seasons, both of them did fine work in forcing Deb to reevaluate her perceptions of both right and wrong (recall that she let Lumen and Dexter go at the end of Season 5 because she felt like Jordan Chase and his crew got what was coming to them), as well as her perceptions of Dexter (also recall that she unfortunately convinced herself that she LOVE loved him last season). She’s no longer as naïve or guarded about certain things. Without those stories in those admittedly problematic seasons, I don’t think these episodes and this story would have been as effective.

Most interestingly, Deb’s first concrete solution to Dexter’s problem was to paint him as an addict and suggest that she would be his personal rehab counselor and her apartment would be his clinic.* It wasn't the worst idea ever, even if it allowed the episode to quickly move away from the two of them having truly honest conversations and created circumstances in which Dexter just got to lie to and sneak around Deb.

* This was one of those times where the show wanted us to mostly forget that Dex has a baby. Harrison made an appearance tonight, but it seemed pretty easy for Dexter to just start sleeping at Deb’s place, seemingly apropos of nothing. Jamie has to be raking it in as a babysitter and she also must think that Dexter and Deb’s relationship is the weirdest thing ever—which it is.

Much like last week’s episode, the structure of “Frosty Swirl” featured a lot of Deb interrupting the show's typical rhythms. She learned the truth, only for Dexter to keep trying to lie to her some more, which regularly finds a way to stop (sometimes accidentally). Whether it's intentional or not, I love how Deb has become this disruptive force, not only in the life of Dexter but in our perceptions of how the show works on a regular basis.

This was further underscored by the episode’s conclusion. After discovering that Josh Cooke’s Louis wasn’t actually dangerous but just a petulant nerd mad about Dex crapping on his video game, Dexter thought he'd taken care of the situation with some hefty threats. Unfortunately, Louis refused to stop coming around, leaving Dex with only one choice—or so he thought. Mid-way through the usual murdering process, he actually broke down and called his “sponsor,” Deb. He brought her to the location and (mostly) told her the truth. For the first time in a long time (and maybe ever), Dexter stopped a kill on his own.

I’m very curious to see how this story keeps progressing. As he told Deb in the episode, Dexter has tried to quit killing before and it’s never worked. But when he was trying back then, he was still keeping secrets from people he actually cared about (Deb and Rita). And when other people knew the truth about him, they only brought the monster out more. Deb is, unsurprisingly, a different case. She both knows the truth and is important enough to Dexter that he’s willing to at least try quitting again. That is a massive step. Of course, in some ways, it also suggests that Dexter feels something toward Deb that he hasn’t with anyone else, which we already sort of knew, but with the knowledge of how SHE might feel in our minds, it’s tough to see their relationship as progressing to an even more confusing and codependent space.

But really, it had to be this way didn’t it? Dexter has always been a show about this demented family unit of Dexter, Deb and Harry. Dexter, for the entirety of the series, has aligned with Harry out of necessity, but perhaps going through this with Deb will make him realize that he has someone who is alive that can help him navigate his screwed-up life. I guess it’s only fitting that after Harry sheltered Deb and crafted Dexter to be a killing machine, the kids should band together to make something more workable and less murderous.

The big question here, though, is whether or not the show would ever allow Dexter to quit being himself. Like I said, we’ve been down this road before and the show always pulls everything back to the status quo—seemingly so it can keep telling the same kinds of stories. But Dexter is a different kind of show now; one with an end in sight and less procedural necessity. Does Dexter giving up his killing ways make sense as a conclusion to an extended character arc? Maybe. I’m not sure yet. What do you think?


NOTES


– The dead stripper storyline is progressing, but it's not entirely engaging yet. Quinn is SHOCKINGLY falling for a stripper who will likely try to get him killed, and Ray Stevenson’s bossman Isaac is predictably vicious. This thread isn’t bad at all, but it also mostly exists just so we can take a breath between the Deb-and-Dexter scenes.

– This episode laid the “Can Dexter change?” point on a little thick by having a random convict claim he was willing to help Miami P.D. find the bodies he'd buried only so he could wax poetically to Dex about never changing before killing himself. That was a little unnecessary, especially when we already had the voiceover throwing out things like, “WILL I EVER BE ABLE TO CHANGE?” We get it, Dexter. Don’t treat us like idiots.

– Dexter asked Deb whether she had any A1 to distract her, but I’m wondering if he can even eat it, to say nothing of ketchup or other red substances, without “seeing red” as he discussed? Seems like tempting fate, no?

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Deb realizing she's in love w/Dexter makes everything over the yrs make a ton of sense. She's always looked at him and wanted more than an adoptive sibling (yes adoptive) had to offer. Before you go gross. This is Dexter. It's unorthodox and twisted kinda love story subplot as only it can be. Fact that people complained because they feel it came out of nowhere is ridiculous. So much underlying hints, or undertones about it starting Season 1. Not everything has to be spelled out. But I always felt like they are "it" to one another. A light to their darkness. They've had a devotion that goes beyond. Her accepting him, seeing him, not turning away I think it's only natural for him to end up processing it and feeling the same. But writers may chicken out and cater to those who have no idea what they're talking about.
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Laguerta is slowly freaking me out, Louis I can't stand and wish he'd go away, I think he's going to be dangerous, I hope the russians get him....the dead stripper and Victor storyline is going to go full speed it seems if the sneak peak was anything to go by....isaac's men trace kaja/victor's bracelet to Dexter's boat or something? I love Dexter, I just hope this series ends well and not like, for instance Medium, where they screwed the whole show up by killing her husband for no rhyme or reason...Dexter and Deb are great, I wish she would let him breath, otherwise he is going to get wound up and make a mistake when killing someone, from all the pressure he's under.....
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Another awesome episode! I like how Deb wanted to treat Dexter like an addict, and how he seemed to deep down want her help. I look forward to more!
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I really liked this episode. It wasn't as poorly written as most of the episodes last season and it kiiind of feels like the tone of the first four seasons.

The story I'm most particularly interested in is LaGuerta. I think the plot with her finding the blood slide and secretly re-investigating the Bay Harbor Butcher case will eventually lead to her death. Buahaha! Finally! Well, at least I hope so. It could also very likely lead to her arresting Dexter and not dying... which would kind of suck. Also, as long as Quinn's plot isn't just another "his dick controls him" situation, I can also envision this story leading to his death too. So if everything goes right, both LaGuerta and Quinn can die this season. Hooray!
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Its so obvios, Sis will wake up after she finds Dexter killing or attempting to kill LaGuerta, she will eather have to kill or arrest Dexter. Being the next of kin for the baby she will soon realize that he also has the same dak passenger. Now not so nieve thinking this can be cured she will become her father and teach the baby the code. The circle of life will then be complete.
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Its nice how this series is reaching its high point.... If the reviewer is reading the comments, I would like to let him know that this one consists a MAJOR FLAW... one regarding Louis...



Firstly, there is no way in hell that he is not a dangerous guy, if dex didnt like his game, why gift the ice truck killer hand to him, happy co-incidence? And, pls remember, TRAVIS WAS THE ONE WHO BROUGHT THE HAND TO HIS APARTMENT, makes the twist the most mysterious till now.







And secondly, what is wrong with you, you certainly haven't watched dexter carefully, what the hell do you mean by 'usual mudering process'. Dexter wasn't gonna murder him, even a 5 year old would have noticed, he didn't meet the code, or if I have missed out that the code was recently updated to kill guys who annoy him.







So please go back home and watch carefully, dont say something like 'Dexter stopped a kill on his own' . He didnt because he wasn't gonna kill, he simply called his 'sponsor' (wtf dude) because he was violating his secondary code.



P.S. Sorry if you feel that I am being disrespectful, because I am not.. just annoyed by the fact how reviewers are so overconfident these days..
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If the baby is starting to hinder plot points (an story credibility), those magical grandparents should just swoop in and take Harrison off to that nice farm for unwanted TV children where Astor and Cody went after season 5. That would be just fine by me!

I was confused by Dexter calling his sponsor aka Deb. Was he for reals considering killing Louis, who is definitely not a murderer, thus breaking the code? Did he actually NEED Deb to keep him from killing or was he just manipulating her into believing he could change?

And I finally love a LaGuerta story line! I forgot she luurved Doakes, and her putting the pieces together will put Dexter in danger and force Deb to choose a side. Awesome!
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I really don't like this rehab angle they're going with granted I'm not sure how you could stretch out two seasons any better. I would have much preferred LaGuerta to be piecing it all together and being the "villain" this season leaving the reveal for much closer to the end of the series. I think the show should end with Deb killing Dexter (I suppose it can still end up there). If you want to talk heavy-handed I felt this entire episode's angle with Deb was poorly done (from the sponsor idea to Dexter calling her after he drugged her) and conversely I felt the convict's arch was much less heavy-handed than any of Dexter's narration.
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I like where this is going and very good work by Jennifer Carpenter. I liked the convict part. Blood on Dexter's face is always nice! But I'm not ok with the "forget about Harrison" issue.
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i think Dexter and Deb will KILL LaGurta TOGETHER...
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I bet I can can some tv watching volunteers to help with that as well.
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Going in a very good direction. Still hesitant because of what the previous two seasons did to me.
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I'm in the same boat. I quite liked this episode and I can see this season being pretty good... but I think I liked the start of last season too, and that didn't turn out well at all.
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Yeah, unfortunately it could still fall apart.
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I am loving this ride. I think that they are doing this extremely well and cannot wait for more.
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Jennifer Carpenter deserves an Emmy nomination for her work throughout the years on Dex!

The rehab thing is definitely entertaining, but they are laying the foundation for a possible romance between them and that's one place I wouldn't want them to go. They may not be related by blood, but family doesn't end with blood. The baby is becoming a hindrance for the writers this season and they are messing up on that front. I'm really enjoying this season though. Loved season 5 as well.
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Even though the episode concentrated around the idea of "Can Dexter REALLY change?". I still reckon DEXTER might change, he might just CONTROL it. Although, this all will be explored in the next Episodes.



What do u guys think
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Yvonne Strahovski!

Hmm, for years Jaime Murray was always in teasing PG outfits on 'Hustle', 2 episodes on Dexter as Lila and she was all 'Scuse my tuts'...

Thats a very good reason to keep watching no-matter how bad the writing gets...
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Very good episode and poor Deb...
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It would have been hilarious if when Dexter and Deb were driving back home after a long day trying to find the cop killer would say. "By the way your not gonna find Victor...Sorry"
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Very good episode. It could have used a little more suspense or action, but it's nice to see that they're focusing on what's important right now.

I'm pleased to see that the comments here aren't all saying "wtf, they were just talking the whole episode". This is a situation where talking is what makes the most sense, so if Dex and Deb had been doing a lot less talking, the show would have made a lot less sense, and kind of sucked.

Jennifer Carpenter is amazing in every episode. It's absurd that she hasn't even been nominated for an Emmy. I really hope that she wins either best lead actress or best supporting actress in 2013.

I didn't really like the final scene. Titus Pullo should at least have *asked* the guy if he killed Victor, and it would have made more sense to leave him alive until they knew more. That scene was just supposed to show how evil Ray Stevenson's character is, but we kind of knew already. So all we really learned is that he's also very reckless. I think a meticulous crime boss (Gus Fring) is both more interesting and more scary than a reckless one.
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I really enjoyed this episode , and it's a big surprise for me.last week episode wasn't bad but after the horrible season 6 , I had doubts about Dexter going back on tracks.

the season 7 premiere was necessary to rebound , close season 6 and really start something new.

and that's why I liked episode 2 , because it felt like old dexter , like we are back in season 1 or 2 , there were many references about season 1 , when Dexter explain about who he killed , it was all from the 1st season , when laguerta goes back to the bay harbor butcher case , it makes her storyline really interesting all of a sudden.



the relation between dexter and debra is more touching too , more realistic.

the only thing that bothers me was harrison , when dexter come at deb's place without harrison , I was surprised , it seems like harrison is a burden for the writers , they only use it to humanise dexter once in a while , jamie is really the baby sitter of the year , as this point she can adopt the kid



Hope next weeks will be good too , after a good episode like that , I would be disappointed if BS were coming back
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I predict GameBoy will be so mad at the drugged kidnapping that he'll hound Dex until he figures out Dex is a serial killer, then want to become his protege.

Dex despises GameBoy by now -- the only reason he pulled out of the killing is because of his promise to Deb, so of course Dex will refuse to mentor Gameboy.

Gameboy will respond by outing Dex, which would be twisted poetic justice, because the only reason Gameboy survived was because of Deb trying to "save" Dex.
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I also noticed the "forget about Harrison" for part of that episode, but I also scratched my head at the idea that a nerd who had landed an adorable little hottie like Jamie wouuld be on line getting blown by some tatooed hooker skank.
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Dexter, it's good to see you again.

Season 7 has gotten off to a VERY strong start. It's almost made me forget the poorly written fever dream that was season 6. What was Travis's imaginary friend's name again? Professor Goldman? Gallagher? Gillette? Godawful? Ah well, it doesn't matter anymore. That's all in the rearview mirror now.

We've been waiting for quite some time to see how Deb would react to the truth about Dexter. When you think about it, it's pretty amazing how long she was kept in the dark. There were several instances when she came oh so close to discovering Dexter's secret. There was even one scene when Dexter envisioned various scenarios of what would happen if Deb found out (the funniest scene in Dexter history, imho). We all knew this day would come. It was one of those inevitable plot twists that was wholly expected, but still very much anticipated. What I'm trying to say is this very scenario was always going to happen. The writers kept it in the background and a on a back-burner. Never a central focus, but constantly there, until it became like a white noise we accepted at face value. What HAS been a central focus throughout the entire show is Dexter's relationship with Deb.

From the very first season she was a tether to the last vestiges of his humanity. Dexter's brother, Brian, urged him to abandon Harry's code and kill his sister. He was the Dark Passenger personified, purporting the replacement of nihilism to Dexter's adopted order. But he couldn't do it. He chose Deb over his own flesh and blood. Without her even knowing, she saved him from descending into the depths of true evil.

For 6 seasons this relationship has grown and evolved, due in large part to Deborah's individual evolution as a character. The memory has faded, but I do remember a time when Deb was not viewed in the most favourable of lights. She was not liked very much amongst fans, and was considered to be a one-dimensional, weak character study. Say what you will about the dips in Dexter's quality, the character of Deborah Morgan has only become better with age. She has steadily matured during the span of the show, and the complexity of her character has exponentially increased.

An aspect of that complexity, of course, is her seriously complicated feelings towards Dexter. Last season Deb discovered she had more than just a familial love for her brother. This development led to a fair amount of outrage from fans. Many opposed it simply due to the "Eww!" factor. But many others disapproved because they felt it was completely out of the blue. The criticism was that it seemed the writers just threw it in there to create controversy, and there was no foundation in the earlier seasons to substantiate Deb's newfound feelings.

I was in the small minority who actually thought the controversially incestuous feelings Deb ha(s)d for Dexter were not written in on a whim. As I stated above, the revelation of Deb discovering Dexter's dark dalliances was always in the cards. And I believe a foundation WAS built, however subtle it may have been, to make the LOVE love for her adopted brother structurally acceptable.

Think of all the times she came to him for advice. All the times he helped her with a case, or bailed her out of a predicament. One of the primary reasons she's a Lieutenant is because of the direct and inadvertent help her gave her. I don't think Dexter even appreciates how much of an emotional rock he was for her during her slow climb out of insecurity.

Then look at all of her past relationships. All the men she's gotten involved with have been emotionally unavailable to various extents, with no real future in the relationship. And she would always take her problems to Dexter. He would listen, offer simple advice, and she would invariably feel better.

Now let's look at all that through the prism of this new and exciting season. We shouldn't forget the only reason Deb even knows about Dexter's serial killing ways in the first place is because she sought him out to tell him how she feels. I think one of the only redeeming factors of season 6 was Deb's introspection by way of her therapy sessions. They were fascinating to watch, and a perfect microcosm of how far her character has come.

I know there are a few of you who wish the whole thing of Deb LOVE loving Dexter would just go away. But can you honestly say this new (and admittedly weird) progression doesn't make the current situation of their relationship more interesting? The only possible way finding out your adopted brother is a serial killer can be stranger, is if you also think you might be in love with him. Now they're living together while she tries to suppress his urges. It's fucking crazy! But I've always liked crazy. Cory is absolutely correct when he wrote Dexter has always been about the demented dynamics of Dexter's family. Harry has been a guiding presence for Dexter, but he's only a manifestation of Dexter's subconscious. Through all the madness of Brian, Doakes, Lila, Miguel, Trinity, Lumen and the death of Rita, the one constant in Dexter's life has been Deb.

The writers have said they aren't going to run from Deb's feelings for Dexter. And if you focus on a few snippets of the dialogue in this episode, they seem to be backing that up:

Deb detailing Dexter's "rehab": "If we're gonna do this, we're gonna do it all the way. We're gonna eat together, we're gonna watch TV together, we're gonna drive to fucking work together."

Dexter: "I hope you've got a big shower."

Tell me that wasn't sexually insinuative. It's also curious Deb's first instinct to "cure" Dexter is to spend every waking moment with him.

Deb: "What if dad had taught you how to quit, instead of teaching you how to live with it? He fucked up."

Dexter: "Deb, there's a big problem with this idea. I've tried stopping before. It didn't work."

Deb: "Well, now you have me. Someone who loves you, more than you will ever fucking know."

Nope, it's not going away.

I've loved the focus being set solely Dexter's only relevant characters. They are the show. Nobody else really matters. So it's been great television watching these two coming to terms with their newfound respective realities. I also loved Deb trying to understand why Dexter does what he does. Dexter's poetic description of his dark desires brought me back to the superb writing of seasons 1&2.

Personally, I don't think Dexter can ever quit. Not only does it go against everything we've learned about him, but it would essentially castrate the show. Dexter at its bloody core, has always been about the great debate of serial killing vs. vigilante justice. It asks the audience every week a very simple question: "Do some people deserve to be killed?" Without suavely slashing Dexter, why would we watch?

What will this mean for Dexter and Deb? What will she do if she realizes Dexter's Dark Passenger isn't just a temporary hitchhiker? I don't know. Maybe she'll come around to Harry's philosophy. Maybe one of the killers Dexter was talking about will fall through the cracks, and Deb will realize Dexter's methods aren't as reprehensible as she once thought. Your guess is as good as mine.

All I know for sure is that it's been a long time since I've been so excited to watch a new episode of Dexter. And that is entirely because of its two lead characters.
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This should have been a tv.com article. You really know your Dexter, and I agree that it's been great so far, a big contrast to last season.
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Wow you scare me with your ... words .. and all these letters ...

Anyway, I totally agree on the importance of the double-D!

And maybe the fact that both actors were married for a short, and steamy, period of time and now being divorced adds the little extra spice we're enjoying now in seas 7.

And I got that terrible but also sweet feeling that something is going to happen to Deb - don't know why, maybe because of the business the brotherhood is in and Ray Stevenson's reflexes, I don't know.

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Solid episode, this season has potential to be as good as season 4 (I really enjoyed that season).

Some questions:

1) Is this the first time Dexter has explained the Dark Passenger? If so, it took 7 seasons, but it was worth the wait.

2) Is Jaime a live in? If so, I can by that she is baby sitting that often.

3) Is Dex reffering to the last time he was in rehab for "drugs" in season 2, as the last time he tried to quit and it didn't work?

Other thoughts:

Dex has killed people in the past that have come across his secret, even of they didn't fall within the code. The code only works if he doesnt get caught, but as Dex has demonstrated in the past, the code goes out the window when his secrets in danger. Add that to the enormous amount of stress he is under right now and I have no problem believing he would have and still might kill Louis. (O and Louis did all this for a video game...I call bullshit on that one)

I don't know what the rest of the season has in store, but I think that something bad will happen to Deb and the killer will get away and Dex will really want to kill him/her, but won't do it without Deb's blessing, which she will eventually give. (This is how it played out in the books, and Deb wasn't too happy about Dexter's killing ways there either)

Minor Nitpick:

When Deb was chastising Dex about justfying kis kills cuz he kills bad people, Dex should've brought up how Deb let him and Lumen get away in season 5. He could have thrown it right back in her face, cuz she let him go for the same reason she was giving Dex a hard time. Now if Dex didn't know it was Deb that let him go then ok, but Im pretty sure he knew it was her.

ps. Jennifer Carpenter has been stellar this last two episodes (not to take anything away from Hall, but he's always good). If she keeps this up and doesnt win an emmy, thats just wrong.

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1. I'm pretty sure that he has explained it a few times before. However, in season 6, even the *writers* seemed to have misunderstood what it meant. So a new explanation was needed just to clear the confusion they caused last year.

2. I'm wondering that too. There seems to be a door between Dexter's apartment and the one next to it. I know that this has been explained, but I don't remember the explanation. Does she live in that other apartment?

3. Yes. Lila got him to think of his dark passenger as just another addiction, that could be controlled like any other addiction. It seemed to be working too, so I don't think Dexter has a good reason to think that it can't be controlled.

4. (about killing people that know his secret). I think the only one is Robocop, and even in that case, you could almost argue that it was self-defense. He has never killed anyone *just* to not get caught. Brian, Miguel and Lila all satisfied the code's requirements.

5. (Something bad happening to Deb). I can't see that happening this season. Maybe near the end of the next one, if they really want to end the show with a bang. But I think a more likely development this season is that she will end up committing more crimes, maybe even murder, to protect him.

6. (Lumen) I thought about that too. Maybe he just doesn't want to bring it up because he would feel like he's betraying Lumen a bit. I think he would tell Deb if she brings it up, because she can't do anything about Lumen without getting Dexter in trouble.

7. (Emmy for JC) Yes!! I've been saying that since season 1. She was great even in the awful season 6, but now she's better than ever *and* is getting a lot of screen time.
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I liked the Lumen/Dexter parts of season 5, I didn't like anything else.

This episode was great, I'm really liking the way they're going with this, for the first time since season 4, I'm looking forwards to the show. If they mainly focus this season on the Deb/Dexter relationship, its going to be a good season.

Two things though:

1. Is it just me, or would this have been way better as a third season? Like, Deb catching Dexter right after the Bay Harbor Butcher stuff? Rita could have easily been killed by Lila at the end of season 2. It would have been way more coherent.

2. Something's telling me this show isn't completely ending after next season, I'm assuming they want some of that sweet syndication money, and ending a show at 96 episodes would be just weird. Two double episodes to wrap things up somehow?
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Maybe next week you should do a poll about how people think Dexter will end: 1. He gets arrested, 2. He keeps killing, 3. He quits killing.



Also, think about what would happen if Dexter went to prison (not in death row). There would be hundreds of people the code allows him to kill, but they are already punished... I wonder what he would do. I guess he'll probably kill them anyway.
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Or 4. He gets killed... but by who?!?
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As someone already has said, this was a very transitional episode after the powerful season premiere: many dialogues, finalized above all to the comparison between Deb and Dexter and some little footsteps for the other storylines, especially the LaGuerta's one. If this storyline is well structured, it could be the perfect parallel in comparison to the desire of Deb to protect her brother and trying to change him during the season.

Not quite a throbbing episode. I truly liked the initial minutes and the conclusion with the confrontation between Dexter and Wayne, with the final reflection of Dexter. "People don't change" used to say someone I miss so much on tv nowadays.

Sorry, Louis, but I won't ever trust you. A videogame? :D Can't wait to see Dexter off him. Boring as hell.

p.s.: ew! Screwdriver to the eye.



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zzzzz....snooze-fest for half the episode....liked some parts of it,but then to see Dex saying to Debra in middle of crime scene and them being nearby police ears : Don't worry didn't kill anyone and LaGuerta's( don't know if I wrote it right,but don't really care and she should be dead in first season) handling evidence( no gloves) makes me wonder if it's worth watching till season 8.



I also liked season 5 and start of season 6,but they just dragged season 6 and show became boring. Only thing I like in Dexter atm are Dex and Deb...rest of side stories I don't even care about !

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When Dexter was listing off the people he had killed to Debra, I so wanted him to say 'The man who killed my wife'
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Well, yeah I share your likeness for season 5. I still have it on my computer and I like the part when Dexter can be a killer and someone sees him like that and not turn away or turn him in. I know unpopular opinion but I like Lumen specially the part where she was on the phone and Jordan Chase said tick tick tick that's the sound of your life running out. I can feel she's really scared. Deb is Deb I like and I do not find her annoying actually it is Rita I cannot stand. I almost gave up on Dexter but luckily she was killed so yeah! I'm still watching. I have a feeling that Deb will try to kill Dexter. I just hope I'm wrong.
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Calling it now. Louis is actually two Louises. What i mean is that i think he has a twin.

I am not quite sure how to feel about the murder interrupted because i never actually believed Dexter was going to kill Louis. In the past Dexter went through great lengths not to kill innocent people. As far as we know Louis didn't kill anybody. He is an annoyance in Dexter's life, but other people have been that too and some of them are still breathing. Additionally i don't think Dexter would have done it on a good day, much less with Deb watching him like a dog. No planning, no proving of guilt and the show expects us to believe that Dexter is now gonna murder him? Otherwise i really liked the episode. This season is shaping up to be great. Fun stuff happened and i can't wait for the next episode.
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I think it's *because* Deb is watching him that I think he could have killed Louis. Dex is under a lot of stress right now. I mean, he has spent like 30 years hiding this part of himself from Deb, and now it's out there. Plus, Louis is more than just an annoyance; right before the confrontation, Dex learned that Louis had sent Dexter that hand, closed all of his credit cards, and vowed to do worse to Dex than what he had done to Bob Henley--and you will recall that Bob was looking at up to 15 years for kiddie porn on his computer. He may not be a killer, but he's definitely a bad person. A bad person who has it out for Dex and has the ability to do some horrible stuff. I think it would be perfectly believable for Dex to make a snap decision to "simplify" his life a bit. He can't get rid of Deb, but Louis? Oh, Louis is fair game.



Besides, after Dex kills Louis with proof that he "deserved it," then Dex can spend a little time being torn up about how he didn't follow the code, and what that means for him.
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I like Isaac, he seems interesting and there is something about his voice that is awesome...
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I'm waiting to see if Deb asks Dex about everyone who he has killed. I mean, I figured she'd at least ask if he had already killed Viktor Baskov since it's a current case, you know?



I'm also wondering if Dex is ever going to learn one particular lesson... every single time he has chosen not to kill someone, it has come back and bitten him in the butt. He passed on two opportunities to kill Louis Greene this episode... can we place bets on how many episodes it takes before the butt-biting commences?
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i wonder if dex will tell Deb that it was him and Lumen who axed jordan chase and she let them go...
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I'm 99% sure that the mob boss is going to kill Deb Morgan this season for revenge of Dex killing his son. Then we will see the return of the DARK PASSENGER and that maybe Yvonne Strahowski will stay on Dexter until the end of season 8.
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season 5 in my opinion is streets ahead of season 3. loved Julia Stiles. and with Season 7 bringing in Yvonne Strahovski, it may end up being my favorite.



I kept yelling at my tv when Deb was acting like Dexter was just another serial killer. He's a serial killer who gets other killers (and rapists) off the streets, sometimes the ones that slipped through the law's cracks. I understand shes her perception of her brother has just been shattered to pieces, but he's always there for her, to save her, he has a son and Dexter's not insane. I just hope that by seasons end, we have like a Bro and Sis duo of killing the sick fucks of Miami off the streets, rather then Deb on Dexter's opposite.
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I don't think she treated him as "just another serial killer". If he had been murdering random 9-year-old girls, she wouldn't have taken it this well.
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What ever happened to the idea of Dexter only getting the ones who 'fell through the cracks', seems like for a while now he has been ensuring they get away with it just to kill them.



The next episode needs Debra to realise "Hey, when was the last time we actually arrested a murderer? Seems like forever, they all keep disappearing..."

Maybe that's where she could 'channel' Dexter's urges, into doing his freaking job.
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You're looking at it through your own eyes though--that of a viewer. In a sense, you see things through Dexter's eyes. For Deb though, it's different. She's a cop whose job it is to stop people like Dexter. Even if he were merely taking the law into his hands, that would make him a vigilante, which is frowned upon by the police. Dexter MURDERS everyone he goes after. Look at it this way--when police officers shoot criminals, there's still an investigation, and often times even public outcry about excessive force. With Dexter, there's no "heat of the moment judgement," no "we thought he was reaching for a weapon." If Dexter goes after someone, that person's going to die.



You also have to consider that there's no fair trial for Dexter's victims. Deb doesn't know how meticulously Dexter investigates his targets to make sure they're guilty, and as a cop, she must know that sometimes, an innocent person gets sent to jail. Apply that to Dexter's victims. There's no way for her to know that 100% of his victims were guilty of the crimes he went after them for. Plus, she has to wonder where he'd draw a line. He mentioned rapists, but "bad people" is open to interpretation. Consider that drunk driver from the first season who had killed an unknown number of people while driving drunk. He never *intentionally* killed anyone. Sure, he was a bad person because there was no remorse, and he was clearly going to move and most likely do it again, but what if there had only been one other victim? Or none? If Dexter was "seeing red," how do we know he wouldn't have killed him anyway?



And now with Louis Greene; as a viewer who is sympathetic towards Dexter, I keep waiting for Dex to kill him--and he almost did! But the guy hasn't really committed a kill-worthy crime yet. From an outsider's point of view, Dexter has way too much power as judge, jury, and executioner.
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season 5 was by far the worst season... it was basically the same plot as season 3 except it was with Lumen. and season 6 was pretty freaking awful too! but season 7 is looking realllly promising , i hope they can finish the show strong. they really should have stopped the show after 5-6 seasons, 5 and 6 just felt like filler cuz the writers didn't know when it was going to end..
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Season 5 is off to a strong start - enjoying it so far. Not sure why Deb thinks she can "cure" Dexter - pretty funny stuff. I can't see how this lasts for Deb.
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This is season 7, season 5 was with Lumen.
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You're not alone Tim, I liked season five as well. Last season was atrocious so I am so happy to see the show taking a less cheesy and predictable road.



BTW is Quinn anorexic?!?!
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He reminds me of Chandler in Friends, before/after rehab. Maybe he went through the same?
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It's Cory Barker. Tim doesn't watch the show.
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I know, right? WTF Quinn, eat a hamburger or twenty. I'm so sick of all these anorexic people on Showtime (and the really bad boob jobs, but that's for another day).

Also, is it just me, or has Deb had a really weird white rim around her mouth these past two episodes? It's like she got a fake tan and it washed off just around her mouth. Weird... Showtime has weird looking people, I guess....
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He does have quite the skull face doesn't he? I was noticing that myself while watching. I don't know if it's anorexia, plastic surgery, or just how his face looks, but either way it's a little weird.
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I haven't seen this episode yet, but according to the "scenes from the next episode" from last week, Deb tries to make Dexter go into some sort of rehab, and he even drugs her food so he can go out for some (most probably) killing-related shady business. Yeah, rehabbing Dexter is totally gonna work!
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Dex has already been through rehab and it didn't work...
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I'd say that it worked at least as well as it does for most alcoholics the first time. And it was only a first attempt. Nothing we have seen is a good reason to think that it's impossible.
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Other than it would mean the end of the show? "Dexter? It's about this serial killer who... doesn't kill people anymore." Zzzzzz
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Yes, but the show IS ending. There's only one more season after this one.
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