Doctor Who "The Day of the Doctor" Review: Gallifrey Falls No More

Doctor Who's 50th anniversary special: "The Day of the Doctor"


I don't even know where to start this review for "The Day of the Doctor." The beginning with the Classic Who opening that gave me all the feels? The end when Gallifrey survived and all those baby Time Lords lived? The moment when the Tenth and Eleventh Doctors appeared on screen together and a million new fan-fictions were written? What about when Tom Baker appeared at the end and the entire Who fandom just broke? But really, does it even matter where I start this review? What is time? 

"The Day of the Doctor" played with time and everything we've come to know and understand about the Time War. Steven Moffat did what Steven Moffat does and he twisted and turned and time went wibbly wobbly and now our brains are mush. Seriously, is your brain not mush after that? I've already watched the special a second time because I was busy live-tweeting the episode as it aired while simultaneously trying to write down every single reference, and let me tell you: I am so not good at multi-tasking when I'm also trying to admire David Tennant's face and understand the concept of time travel. You try it sometime. It cannot be done. 

While there are bound to be Debbie Downers out there who complain about the loopholes Moffat created for himself in order to rewrite the Doctor's own history and the history of the Time War, I'm not one of those people. Some fans will undoubtedly complain that Moffat essentially recycled his own story when he used the same trick to save Gallifrey that he used to save Sally Sparrow in "Blink." But I am not one of those people. In fact, many folks have been criticizing the way Moffat has played with time since he took over the role of Doctor Who showrunner from Russell T. Davies, but once again, I'm not one of those people. 


The beauty of Doctor Who is that it's constantly able to reinvent itself. And it's important to remember that the series is supposed to offer a fantastical escape from our world. Maybe it's because I'm total rubbish at science, and even attempting to figure out the tiniest bit of the physics makes my brain hurt, but I tend to judge Doctor Who differently than I judge most other shows. Too many people look at this series literally, expecting every single thing to make sense and be linear. But honestly, we would die before we ever came to an ironclad conclusion about so many of the things that have happened over the course of the series. Can you imagine if we looked at every single supernatural series with the scrutiny that some people place on the science of Doctor Who? Holy shit. I can't. And I don't want to. Yes, there are plenty of elements to take into consideration, like character development, etc. And yes, there are often deus ex machinas here and there, but when I judge an episode of Doctor Who, I don't look at it as "What did Moffat screw up this time?" I don't look at this series as if it and its logic exist in the real world. Because it doesn't. It can't. And that's the point of it.

We all love to sit around and discuss television and the deeper meanings of shows, but when it comes to Doctor Who, I think a lot of people criticize it to the point that it takes the joy out of everything. I prefer a different approach, especially for big events like the 50th Anniversary Special: Did I have fun on a journey that decidedly took me away from my own world and transported me to another? Did my pulse race? Did I laugh? Doctor Who is essentially a show for children, but because the series has been around for 50 years, those kids have grown up and they've remained loyal fans and they somehow expect something else. What's more, there's an entire generation of *new* Who fans who've only came on board after the reboot in 2005, and they look at the series differently, too. Keeping all of this in mind, it's extremely hard to be too harsh on "The Day of the Doctor," knowing it provided fans around the world with so much joy.


Bringing back Tennant and Billie Piper was absolute brilliance. Tennant is my Doctor, and seeing him don the pinstripes and Chuck Taylors—excuse me, I mean sand shoes—gave my feelings feelings. It took me some time to warm up to seeing Matt Smith in the role, but I eventually did, and now I'm sad to know that we'll soon have to bid him adieu. But every single Doctor Who fan has a favorite Doctor, and Ten is mine. You could just tell that Tennant was having so much fun being back in action, and it felt like no time had passed since he uttered that heart-wrenching, "I don't want to go" in "The End of Time."

And bringing back Piper as the Bad Wolf and not Rose Tyler was absolutely the right call. Some fans might disagree with me on that, but it was surprising and not what people expected. Rose is a companion loved by many, but there's probably only so much "rewriting of time" that can happen in a single episode of Doctor Who. I'm still a little unclear on when in Ten's journey "The Day of the Doctor" actually took place, but I feel like Rose had the most perfect ending she could have had when she ended up in the alternate universe with the Meta-Crisis Doctor. Bringing her back now, even for this wibbly wobbly adventure, would have added more complications than necessary. Bringing her back as the Moment, as the Bad Wolf that she became when she stared into the heart of the TARDIS and absorbed the time vortex, was great. 

It was a shame Christopher Eccleston didn't return for the special. For a moment I thought we were going to receive a great surprise as John Hurt's War Doctor began to regenerate, but alas it was not meant to be. Instead, "The Day of the Doctor" presented two other wonderful gifts. The first glimpse of Peter Capaldi as the Twelfth Doctor wasn't much—in fact, it was just his eyebrows, but they were instantly recognizable and I actually clapped and screamed "CAPALDI!" to my empty living room (I need roommates who have better taste in TV shows). But the second was the aforementioned return of Tom Baker. 


The Fourth Doctor is hands-down one of the most fondly remembered doctors of the series. In fact, he's probably more popular than Tennant, even with the surge of fans that New Who has created. I would have been happy with just the scarf making an appearance—it is, after all the most iconic costume piece in all of the Whoniverse—but to see Baker himself as the Curator at the end of the episode was probably the greatest gift fans could ever have hoped for. It shocked and delighted me so much that as I live-tweeted the episode, I couldn't contain my excitement:

With the entire world watching a global simulcast of the special, I assumed we'd all just had our minds blown at literally the same time, so if you were spoiled, I apologize; that was definitely a moment you didn't want to be spoiled for. And I'm astonished the BBC was able to keep that one quiet. Though I'm pretty certain the penalty for loose lips was probably death by Weeping Angel, so maybe it was easy for everyone to keep their mouths shut, I don't know. The only thing that matters is that "The Day of the Doctor" happened at all.

I suppose I need to discuss the actual events of the episode at some point, right? Since Russell T. Davies relaunched Doctor Who in 2005 with Christopher Eccelston, we've consistently been told one thing: The Doctor was the last of the Time Lords, he ended the Last Great Time War by destroying his entire race in an effort to end the war with the Daleks, and it's been affecting him every single day since. I enjoyed the way the story with the Zygons in the present day mirrored the argument inside the Doctor to end the Time War to save the universe.


The Ninth Doctor was a dark Doctor, and so was the Tenth. Underneath the quips and the jokes was an anger and a darkness that didn't often show its face, but it was always there. During Tennant's "Human Nature" and "The Family of Blood" two-parter, the lingering darkness was addressed so well that those are two of my absolute favorite episodes from the new series. But he also expressed regret about what he had to do, and that gave him a sadness that I don't really feel like we've experienced as much. Matt Smith's Doctor has always been a quirkier, lighter Doctor, and while he still carried that burden of knowing he killed his own people, that he killed millions in order to save billions, it never really felt the same as it did with Nine and Ten. In "The Day of the Doctor," the Moment commented on the Doctor's two future selves being "the one who regrets" (Ten) and "the one who forgets" (Eleven). And rhyming aside, that was a great moment. I also enjoyed Clara's descriptions for each of the three Doctors who appeared in the special. There was The Warrior, The Hero, and The Doctor, or the Healer as I choose to look at it since he "fixed" his past.

Nine, Ten, and Eleven have all had to live with the knowledge that they'd committed genocide, destroying their race and the Dalek race (hahahahaha, destroying the Daleks, great joke). That burden has led to great character moments as I just discussed, so the question now is what does the fact that Ten and Eleven actually helped to prevent the War Doctor from pushing the big red button and time locking the war, mean? Moffat wrote away the fact that every incarnation to come after the end of the Time War cannot remember they've saved Gallifrey by some nonsense about the timelines being all wonky. I could complain about the fact that in pretty much every science fiction story ever written the "don't cross the streams" rule exists for a reason, but I'm letting it slide here as a fan because this was a fun ride and because the world of Doctor Who is now wide open for new possibilities. The Time War in itself was a great, great story, but it also severely limited the story after awhile. 


Having all of the Doctors believe they'd destroyed Gallifrey, means the canon from the first seven series of New Who remains in tact. Complain all the hell you want, but I'm not going to. Baker's Curator confirmed to Eleven that they'd succeeded in saving Gallifrey, which is how the 12th Doctor knew to arrive, but it also means the story can now explore new storylines and that's something I'm really looking forward to. It appears the search for Gallifrey so the Doctor can go home might be where were headed next.

The "Day of the Doctor" was an extremely successful outing. It had the makings of a great Doctor Who episode. There was a lot of wibbly wobbly timey wimey going on. There were plenty of jokes, especially from John Hurt's War Doctor, which surprised the hell out of me considering he was the man who was supposed to end the Time War. He was funny in the ways he kept poking fun at his future selves, from mistaking them for companions to pointing out their sonic screwdrivers were scientific instruments and not guns. I will miss John Hurt's Doctor. It's going to hurt having to go back to a David Tennant-less Doctor Who, and it's going to hurt like hell to say goodbye to Matt Smith soon. But that's the beauty of Doctor Who. It's always changing while somehow staying exactly the same. Just like the joy it brings in to my life.

P.S. If you didn't cry at the end with the image all of the Doctors from the last 50 years, you have no heart.



NOTES


– The Doctor's consequence for destroying the Time Lords and Daleks has always been that he survived and thus had to remember it, but now we've learned it was the Moment who made it so. The Doctor never wanted to live to remember it.

– Ten threatening a bunny because he thought it was a Zygon at first. Hilarious.

– Did Eleven call Ten Dick Van Dyke, or did I imagine that?

– Did you squeal when you saw that board with all the photos of the previous companions? How about the reference to Captain Jack Harkness and his vortex manipulator? I'm still upset John Barrowman wasn't involved in the special.

– It goes ding when there's stuff!

– Best exchange of the entire thing? Eleven: "It's a timey-wimey thing." War: "Timey-what? Timey-wimey?" Ten: "I've no idea where he picks that stuff up."

– "Someday you could just walk past a fez." 

– "Great men are forged in fire. It is the privilege of lesser men to light the flame."

– "Oh you've redecorated? I don't like it." 

– "Perhaps I was you, of course. Or perhaps you are me."

– "I don't want to go."

– "Geronimo! Allons-y! Gallifrey stands!"

– "Why are you pointing you screwdrivers like that? They're scientific instruments, not water pistols!"

– "They're screwdrivers! What are you going to do? Assemble a cabinet out of them?" That's a River Song joke, War Doctor!

– "Next time, would it kill you to knock!?"


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Oct 19, 2014
I'm just now catching up and watching this. I know it's insane to have waited this long, but for one thing I've been a little less obsessed with Doctor Who the last couple seasons, since I've been a bit less impressed with the writing. (It's not Matt Smith, I was 100% pleased with his first season.) And for another thing, this whole British having one episode and then no more for almost a year can just be more tease than I can take. Finally, I didn't want to see Eleventh's death and then have to wait such a long time to see the new Doctor in action. It's too much of a bummer, knowing the one you're attached to is leaving, and not even being able to give the next one a chance for months, just stewing in the thought that he can't possibly be as good as (insert Chris Eccleston, David Tennant, or Matt Smith here). Haha, I've liked each new one, but it's always so worrying not knowing if I will each time. And then they come and it's great like always!

So, I liked the episode, and like Kaitlin, I have no problem with them screwing with time as much as they want, in fact this seems more true to the Doctor's character than what we thought happened before.

I know that having too many past characters show up just distracts from the storyline, but I actually thought the absence of Chris Eccleston was just so obvious and such a bummer. Yes, I heard it was his decision, and I don't know the details, but I guess he doesn't get along with the Doctor Who team somehow. I just. . . wish he could have done it anyway. :( I mean, I've had ex-coworkers that I wouldn't want to go back and work with either, but how long does it take to shoot just one episode? I don't know, I really missed him the whole time, and was so excited the couple times we got a glimpse of him, even though they were just clips/stills from previous stuff. Wish he could have said something was "Fantastic".

Anyway, now I'm bracing myself for the "end" of Matt Smith and the inevitable crying. Then pressing forward to see what's up with this Capaldi guy. . . Crossing my fingers!


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Jan 19, 2014
Even thought I knew it was coming (I only just watched it tonight), I squee'd when Tom Baker showed up.
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Dec 28, 2013
I don't get people who apply logic to Doctor Who. Really—if this show was logical, everyone would be dead from the pressure / oxygen-deficiency of most of the air they breathe. Did you not see that part in The Rings of Akhten where they were flying the scooter-thing and breathing in space-air and then the planet blew up but the gravity was fine and also all the rocks stayed put and were also fine? LOGIC DOES NOT APPLY.
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Dec 22, 2013
-i find it hard to understand how doctors 1-8 knew to travel to Gallifrey when they would have no memory of thought to?

-what happened to the Zygons in the room? did they just stay there?

-no matter how awesome it was , how could Tom Baker be there?

i love Doctor Who just as much as the next person but this episode was a real disappointment, and the fact that they dont remember anything that happened during the episode just makes it one of the stupid dream like and pointless events :/
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Nov 28, 2013
Even though he wasn't my favorite Doctor, I do wish Eccleston had made an appearance. Maybe not as part of the main story but at the very least appear for the regeneration from John Hurt. The 9th Doctor was the one who felt the guilt of the Time War the most, so it would have likely been him that counted the children of Gallifrey. I would have liked a reference to that.

I wonder if The War Doctor's experience with The Moment and the form it took, even though he may not remember all of it, somehow caused the 9th Doctor to be instinctively drawn to Rose Tyler.

I like the little easter eggs we got for the episode. You had Tom Baker as the Curator, the glimpse of the 12th Doctor, the reference to the roundrels of the old TARDIS that never seemed to have a purpose, and having Ian Chesterton being the Chairman of the school where Clara is teaching.

As for the 12th Doctor, maybe he wasn't at Gallifrey only to help the others send it to the pocket dimension, maybe he was there to bring it back after the other Doctors had gone, that is how he'll find it.

We finally got to see why Queen Elizabeth wanted to have the 10th Doctor beheaded in Shakespeare Code, he married her and then never came back. Given what the Doctor would say to Ood Sigma regarding Elizabeth, this adventure takes place during the unseen period of the 10th Doctor's life between Waters of Mars and The End of Time Part 1. He'll remember getting married but not the War Doctor or 11th Doctor being there.

Sure, there were some things I would have liked to see but I have a feeling that the length played a huge part in things. I would have liked a resolution to the Zygon storyline which never seemed have a resolution. I would have also liked a few more answers as to how the Doctor and Clara got out of his timeline.

I wish the version of the theme we heard in the 1st trailer was used for the episode in some way. While having the original was a nice touch, I really liked the arrangement from the the preview. Hopefully it will be part of a future soundtrack release.
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Dec 19, 2013
Overall, I loved this episode, though!
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Dec 19, 2013
You made some great points about missing information (particularly, how did Clara and Eleven get out of his timeline). I agree with your speculation about where "Day of the Doctor" falls in the tenth Doctor's timeline. I also so wished that Christopher Eccleston would have agreed to appear for the episode. I agree that some of Ten's dialog would have been more appropriate for Nine (although Ten always had that rage and regret beneath the surface that he tried so hard to cover up - "I'm always fine"). Cheers!
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Nov 27, 2013
I'm new to Doctor Who, but I already adore this series. It's whimsical and funny, but also dark and sinister - and it doesn't try too hard either. Oh my goodness, I'm so excited to get watching the past seasons. The sad thing is, I've only just starting watching and I'm already attached to Matt Smith - and yet it's just the Christmas special before he leaves and only returns in guest capacity. Oh well; I guess that's the nature of the show.
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Dec 19, 2013
I was introduced to the show by a friend a couple of years ago. I became addicted then proceeded to get my whole family addicted. I started at the beginning of the reboot and got attached to each regeneration in turn, although Ten is my favorite. Enjoy watching them all. It is the best show ever! :-)
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Nov 27, 2013
I can't help but wonder... Will the day ever come that we stop referring to Eccleston as the Ninth, David Tennant as the Tenth and Matt Smith as the Eleventh? I understand the idea of calling John Hurt's character the War Doctor so we don't have to adjust to him being called the Ninth Doctor and changing our ideas of the rest, but the fact is that the War Doctor truly IS the Ninth Doctor, meaning that Capaldi will be playing the 13th, not the 12th. Will he be called the 12th, incorrectly? Or actually be called the 13th, as he truly is?
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Apr 02, 2014
Officially, Capaldi is playing the Twelfth Doctor, for reasons explained in Time of the Doctor, so it is correct to call him the Twelfth Doctor. So no, the day will not come.
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Nov 27, 2013
I think it'll be something fans will argue about for an indefinite amount of time before everyone just decides to let it go, if you take my meaning. Personally, I hope Capaldi is referred to as the Thirteenth Doctor because Hurt's character deserves his title. I think with a bit of time, the adjustment can be made.
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Nov 27, 2013
Notes: Clara can snap her fingers while wearing gloves. She really is the Impossible Girl. / The ravens at the Tower of London run on batteries. / Isn't Cup-a-Soup called Pot Noodle in England?
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Dec 19, 2013
I too cracked up about the ravens looking sluggish. :-) I did wonder how Clara can close the Tardis doors by snapping her fingers. Where do you think that came from?
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Dec 19, 2013
That's from Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead. River Song says the Doctor he can "open the TARDIS doors with a snap of his fingers." He'd never done it before, but tried at the end of the episode, and it worked. I don't know if any of the companions has ever done it. Maybe River.
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Nov 27, 2013
I finally got to watch it...only 3 days late. LOVED IT! I need to watch it again to catch everything. I'm pretty sure the Dick Van Dyke line was referring to Van Dyke's dodgy cockney accent in Mary Poppins. I read an article recently that said 10 had a cockney accent, but I wouldn't say it was. Tom Baker announced ahead of time that he would be in it (even though he wasn't supposed to), but I was still surprised at his role as the currator. This means that 11 doesn't fall at Trenselor. Or something.
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Dec 19, 2013
I wondered about that remark also. I have read that many English folks are still upset about Dick Van Dyke's questionable Cockney accent in Mary Poppins. As an American, I am by no stretch of the imagination an expert on British accents, but I don't think Tennant's accent is bad. I read it was an urban London accent called Estuary English, not Cockney (or are they synonymous?). Anyway, I suppose the Doctor is only pretending with his accent anyway, so it does not really matter. :-)
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Nov 27, 2013
I really, really loved it. It might not have been absolutely perfect, but oh so much FUN. It also made me feel how much I STILL miss my Doctor - Ten, even though I like Eleven and will be sad to see him go.


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Nov 26, 2013
I came about my ascension to Whovanism completely sideways, so that might affect my judgement of the special. I was taken by Captain Jack when I watched the mini-series "Torchwood: Miracle Day" that I was compelled to go back and watch the original series on NetFlix. Hungry for more, I wanted to find where the good Captain came from, which led me back to NetFlix for the Ninth Doctor's encounter with Harkness in 2005's "The Empty Child". From there, it was non-stop days and hours of watching every episode of the reboot until catching up last year and joining the Matt Smith 11th Doctor begrudgingly. As I too was completely in awe of David Tennant's 9th Doctor, and didn't want him to go! But I too grew to appreciate Smith's version and the terrific companion Amy Pond (and Rory too!).

So, with that backdrop, i was ecstatic that Tennant returned, and I LOVED the play amongst the three. John Hurt's War Doctor was much more than I expected, and the jabs between the three had me riveted, as well as the return of Rose/Doomsday Device and the ever-fun Clara. I completely agree with Katilin... trying to work out the science of "Doctor Who" and make sense of it is a fool's errand. 'Tis not ours to make sense, but to make fun! And fun it was! I think I'm going to go back to my DVR and watch it again now! Or am I watching a replica of myself watching it in the past... See? THAT is what makes Doctor Who so amazing and treasured. Bravo Mr. Moffat! Well done!
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Nov 26, 2013

a fifth person came out from the picture frame.

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Nov 26, 2013
Clara hand is not Clara hands
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Nov 26, 2013
I will mirror the sense that you should "just enjoy the fun", but to be honest, I expect just that little bit more out of the Doctor. The reasonably good jokes and the brilliant return of Piper and Tennant aside, I think the plot itself left a lot to be desired, the biggest "eye-roller" (along with the obvious baddies in rubber suits) being the fact that three greatest war minds in history thought the solution would be to remove an entire planet so that ships can shoot through it and hit each other. Lazy writing, anyone?
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Nov 26, 2013
i am a fan since the reboot & have only seen small clips of the original series' but i can still appreciate it. just watched the An Adventure in Time & Space showing the creation of the series. it was really good.

i also, just try and watch for the fun of it and not over analyze it. takes the fun out of it.
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Nov 26, 2013
Only Eccleston, Barrowman and Tate could have made this better. Though I never watched the old seasons so I missed out on stuff.

I have a strong trust towards Capaldi. So far I've always been pissed when the doctor changes but ended up really loving the new one after a short while.

Also, it's nice to see a companion that affected things this much. Not only did she save every doctor reincarnation ever, she saved the whole planet, the Time-Lord race. Way to go, shuffle-girl.
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Nov 26, 2013
That's been my feeling as well, hating every new incarnation of the Doctor, then growing to love them. Makes me really worry that I love the idea of Capaldi right from the beginning. At least we got to "see" Eccleston, and I'm sure for storytelling purposes had Tate shown up all of time would have begun to unravel, but I was extremely saddened to see Barrowman didnt show up, especially since the producers of Arrow gave him all the time he'd need to make an appearance. I guess aside from Clara they were mostly trying to avoid companions, otherwise having no Amy Pond or River Song would have been there as well.
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Nov 26, 2013
One thing I would have liked would have been more companions, if only in cameos. Mickey, Donna, Martha especially.
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Nov 26, 2013
After the Eleventh Doctor blows up in The Big Bang doesn't Amy pretty much will him back into existence? Wouldn't that now make him the first Doctor with zero regenerations?
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Nov 26, 2013
Actually, before the Doctor was completely deleted from existence, he was at Amy's house when she was a little girl. Essentially he whispered about his story in her head so that as long as he was remembered, she could bring him back. Put it this way, you delete something from your computer's recycle bin, part of it is still in the computer, hard written on the hard drive...even with that little bit, you can bring back a whole computer system. Same with what happened in that story. All it took was a memory to unravel the whole time line. Besides, he was never actually gone. If he had truly never existed, then she would not of been able to remember him...but since she could, her memory was enough to bring back across the "void" and into our dimensional existence.
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Jan 10, 2014
Ok but nothing in your explanation negates what I said. To go with your analogy, Amy didn't know he had ever died so the Doctor she re-created would have been on his first life.
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Nov 26, 2013
Don't you dare try bringing logic and continuity to time travel. It's all wibbly-wobbly, timey-whimey for a reason, now stop trying to make sense of it!
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Nov 26, 2013
Where Ten's timeline for this is, to me the first thing that popped into my head was "The End of Time - Pt I" At the very beginning he goes to talk to the Ood and comments on getting Married. Then calls her Queen Bess referencing I assume now to be Queen Elizabeth I. I could be totally wrong on this but when he first mentioned marriage I remembered Ten telling an Ood in "The End of Time - Pt I" that he'd traveled around and done this and that and then he said he got married to Queen Bess.

My only disappointment was after The War Doctor mentioned "Bad Wolf" Ten never asked him what he was talking about.
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Nov 26, 2013
You're correct on that one. Don't know if you're in the US, but BBC America showed the End of Time episodes immediately following the simulcast, and it was really fun to see the rather remarkable continuity from that story to this one.
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Nov 30, 2013
I'm in the US but I didn't watch it on TV I actually went to see it in 3D in the theater. And now I've read the BBC website and it actually says Shakespeare Code was when it was first mention. Not my favorite episode so it's not shocking I didn't remember it.
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Nov 26, 2013
My only regret regarding this episode is that Christopher Eccleston wasn't in it. It would have added more to it. Ten regrets and Eleven forgets, but it was Nine that had all the anger and rage, both at the Dalaks and especially himself.
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Nov 26, 2013
he was there. it was enough for me
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Nov 26, 2013
sorry, i wanted to like it, but didn't.
woe is me.
:'(
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Nov 26, 2013
This article's headline was the biggest spoiler I ended up seeing before seeing the show in the theater tonight. In the future it might be nice to avoid major spoilers in headlines.
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Nov 26, 2013
If the Doctors could not figure out the 2 titles worked as one, why would the author expect you - a mere human - to figure it out from a headline? I figured it out when they were first mentioned but thought since they did the same wordplay on the graveyard episode last time out they wouldn't do it this episode too. they did. too easy.

My big problem was the unfinished end of the current day alien invasion storyline. That truce negotiation must be the longest in history!
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Nov 26, 2013
wow, yes. wow, sorry.
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Nov 26, 2013
"Who nose?"
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Nov 26, 2013
I never was a fan of the entire Time War idea of Davies had. I think it may have worked for awhile to reestablish the Doctor in a new generation of viewers but the Doctor was alone. He needs to have some interaction with his own kind and even the 11th Doctor indicated he missed his people (remember those small boxes he found?)

And even if he does find Gallifrey, which should be a great long term story arc, its not like he's going to willing go back to visit. I mean, haven't the Time Lords forced the TARDIS back home with the Doctor kicking and screaming? :)

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Nov 26, 2013
I also realized that I was watching Tom Baker in a Doctor Who episode in the same place my grandmother had watched episodes on PBS on her old black and white TV when I was 7 years old, talk about time-travel!

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Nov 26, 2013
The Doctor in "The End of Time - Pt II" stated that he had to destroy the Timelords because of what they were planning to do under Rassilon - and effectively ascend to crush all matter.

So why then does the Doctor (knowing this) allow them to be saved?

Thoughts.... ?


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Nov 26, 2013
Rassilon was planning that stuff to get out of the Time War. So by saving Gallifrey from the Time War. They hoped the Time Lords would be more kind. I think.
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Nov 26, 2013
But in that case, the master would still be alive, since the End of Time never wouldve happened. TBH, there are 2 possibilities here. 1: Moffat forgot about the End of Time completely (which is unlikely since there are a few references to it). 2: He's planning something with that storyline and we'll just have to wait and see.
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Nov 26, 2013
Is it just me or do others think on this track....
* The War Doctor was holding the glass sphere when they were planning to save Gallifrey - the instrument of Tmelord art.
* The curator is played by Tom Baker, protecting the picture of Gallifrey Burns
* The curator knows what the picture is about and that it is now called "Gallifrey Burns No More"
* The Doctors trap Gallifrey in a frozen pocket of time

Conclusion: Gallifrey is in the picture.

Thoughts... ?
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Nov 26, 2013
no offense but to quote the great Homer (Simpson)...

DOH!

Why would u wonder if others think that when all of that obviously happened.

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Nov 26, 2013
Well, a possible way to locate Gallifrey would be to have Clara establish a mental link with her Gallifreyan incarnation (depicted in "The Name of the Doctor") and somehow track it--if that version of her is still extant....
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Nov 26, 2013
And now for something really controversial... David Tennant wore his age on his face. I'm sorry, it's true. Yeah, Matt Smith was looking old, but he did it for another role, Tennant's baby face is finally growing up and getting lumpy. Still the most handsome Doctor though... ok, second-most after Davison, but Tennant married his daughter so that's wibbly-wobbly. And maybe McGann is as handsome. Damn, it's difficult being a straight guy trying to gauge other guys' looks.
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Dec 19, 2013
Are you crazy? Yes, David Tennant does look a few years older, but lumpy? He is still quite handsome, in my opinion. I love how the script had him mock himself a bit: "any handsome bloke in a tight suit, especially if he has amazing hair"...lol...
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Dec 20, 2013
I said "getting" lumpy, not that he was. But admit it, he's got more chins than he did a few years ago.
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Nov 26, 2013
I guess if you give Moffat enough time to think of a story and pace it out and work on it and then tell it, he actually can connect to his characters and their unique environment. This was a really good episode, and it made me wonder why we haven't enjoyed this level of execution more often during the Moffat run. Granted, it used 3 layers of deus ex machina and 2 layers of mcguffins to get through the point of the story, not to mention a last-minute solution, but it didn't really weigh the episode down because the focus was kept on the Doctor and who he is/they are.

I'm not loving the "nobody will remember" aspect of the ending, I never like those, it's like everybody suffers and triumphs for no reason, and especially in this case where it changed how the Doctor views himself and his choices. I get that they can't have all 13 Doctors throughout the timeline remember this, but it means 8.5, 9, 10, and 11 up until now all have to continue suffering despite their saving Gallifrey.

The one big nitpick thing that kinda got under my skin for a second was Gallifrey burning during the time-locked time war, that was a bit confusing since it didn't entirely fit with "The End of Time" in tone or concept, but because the episode stated what it had to say it wasn't too difficult to just accept and move on, I see it kinda stayed with you too, Kaitlin.

There was only one gizmo gag that didn't work for me, the "I programmed my sonic screwdriver, and yours has just completed the calculations after 400 years", this was a gag with a twist ending, but all I could think of was "the new series has destroyed several sonics already so it's not the same unit". Still, that's just a little thing and the point was a twist ending anyway, but it just spoke a little loudly so it stood out.

Doctor Who has never really been about science, it tries not to wave its ass in the viewer's face as it screws with science, but the truth is that it really is wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey and thus should not be subject to the same scrutiny that a more science-focused sci-fi show enjoys/suffers.

Honestly, the biggest screwjob in this episode was that Moffat wouldn't allow Smith and Tennant to do a series between them, that was an idea they cooked up and he put the kibosh on it, and they were really good together and I think it's a shame that we couldn't have another 7 or 8 episodes like this. I know there are business elements Moffat has to keep to, but Doctor Who shouldn't be Hollywood contracts, it should be magic

Not having a meeting of the companions was disappointing and not for the reason you think, it's because Clara still feels like a hollow character and remains so without Rose to play off of. 11 has 10 and 8.5 to play off of in this episode, so Clara is a vestigial character and her lack of depth shows, she's attached but doesn't really do anything, and not having Rose there furthers that since Billie Piper is there almost as a Greek Chorus.

I also was hoping Eccleston would have at least appeared for a second beyond stock footage - he's the Doctor that got me to love Doctor Who after decades of feeling out of place with it. Capaldi's appearance was good, although it does make it feel like he's the final one.

Tom Baker's appearance as the Curator was amazing and spine-tingling. He's the oldest surviving actor who has played The Doctor, and he was so perfect here, a wonderful surprise. Honestly, after seeing him here, I want every Doctor to just get their own new episode next series, they've all still got it and they deserve to flaunt it one more time!

The Weeping Angels don't kill you, they send you back in time where you live a normal life, so I'm sure loose lips on that scene would get a far worse punishment.

Goodness Kaitlin, you just reviewed all your experience, and now you want to review the episode itself? You're wacky! ;-) 716 words and the biggest spoilers of all before the review even starts, risky. I would suggest you cut it with the "if you didn't cry when ____ you have no heart" shit though, that's just internet hyperbole at its worst... ok, well you didn't compare anything to Hitler so not quite "worst".

- Yes, he did call him Dick Van Dyke and I honestly didn't get why. Had to look up "sand shoes" though, maybe it's an English thing.
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Nov 25, 2013
My favourite line was from THE MOMENT.. Im from your past or maybe it is your future I always get that confused.. I laughed.
I liked the story and it in no way changed the past Doctors all believed they had destroyed Gallifrey. I will be sad to see Matt Smith leave. I really loved David Tennant ( he was always supposed to be married to Queen E 1st they made mention of it in his time so it was fun to see it) I will continue to watch because I love timey whimey stuff and they at least try to make us understand what is going on. I finally understand why the Doctors dont continue to run into each other is because there is a time lock on showing up when there counterpart is around. So I guess Matt's Doctor could never show up at the end of the Earth cause that is when 9 (or 10 depending on numbering now) I still am unsure who did War Doctor turn into? Which number?) AND how could the Doctor in the final scene be old I thought he regenerated before he got to be that age?
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Nov 26, 2013
The Curator said that in matt's Doctor's future he revisted some old faces, 'just the ones he liked of course' and so that is how he is there again....
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Nov 25, 2013
Can I just say we haven't really acknowledged enough how good Billie Piper was in this? She had that very... Neil Gaiman-esque surreal playfulness mixed with menace down pat.
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Nov 25, 2013
Oh my gosh - I missed it, and I didn't DVR it! I can't find it slotted for any re-airings! I can't find it On Demand!!!! Someone please HELP ME, where can I watch it??!?!? Arggghhhhh!!!!!
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Nov 26, 2013
Well BBC America had two airings. Tardisblue.net has it on a loop for 24-hours (Their A-OK with the BBC). OnDemand for Xfinity customers (TV Shows > Doctor Who > Specials is where I found it). Hulu is a legal way to watch it, Same with Amazon, iTunes, Google Play.
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Nov 26, 2013
They will almost certainly rerun it this week and before the xmas episode on BBC AMERICA in the US, maybe try HULU meanwhile.
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Nov 25, 2013
Lol I should have specified where can I "legally" watch it.
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Nov 26, 2013
Why bother with "legal" methods?
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Nov 25, 2013
Torrent is a good way to go its fast and easy to find. This episode is worth a fast result
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Nov 25, 2013
BBC.com If in Canada Space.ca and possibly in US try the Syfy channel online. Hope you find it.
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Nov 25, 2013
Nowadays... why not use the internet?:) (torrent)
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Nov 25, 2013
How is it hard to be harsh? They've basically destroyed Russell T. Davies' storyline and made three incarnations of the Doctor motif meaningless. I'm sure it's nice to have a happy ending, but you can't rewrite the show because you want a happy ending. It's like getting a divorce from someone because they slept with your brother, but then they tell you later on that they really didn't sleep with your brother at all and that they want to get back together. I've invested so much into this show and the fans don't deserve to lose all of that time that they've spent into the show.

Now, there are parts I like. I like the different personalities of all the Doctors, but it still doesn't prevent the fact that Moffat has decided that Russell's plots aren't as good as his. If you wanted to retcon, you shouldn't have picked the Time War. The entire thing seemed to be a Deux Ex Machina sort of "nothing has consequences" scenario. I just hope that Moffat stops splitting his time between so many television shows and lets someone else take the reigns.
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Nov 27, 2013
Can you be specific on what you mean by "destroying Russell T. Davies' storyline?" I watched End of Time right after Day of the Doctor and don't have the foggiest notion what's making you think that.
As to the "sleeping with your brother" comment: Overdramatize much?
I don't see much of a retcon at all with the Time War. The Daleks were still destroyed and Galifrey's in a pocket dimension; War Doctor, Nine, and Ten will still believe they destroyed it; Eleven's story is still unfinished, but even if he can remember and goes searching for Galifrey instead of being the Curator, he still knows that he, Ten, and who knows how many others will be entombed at Transiloor. Don't know where the happy ending is here, or how it's substantially changed the Davies plotlines (and before you get too sanctimonious about consequences, let's remember that ol' RTD didn't seem too concerned about tearing down his own "consequences" by giving Rose her own Doctor Cloney-Woney in whatever pocket universe she somehow seemed to be able to escape for no particularly good reason - isn't that just the kind of "happy ending" you're decrying here?).
I thought it very interesting in the BBC America lead-in show how Veronica Belmont immediately corrected herself when she said 'canon;' it certainly looked like she'd been told specifically not to use that word. It's apparent from the direction they took the show that Davies and Moffat (who, remember, wrote some of Davies' most legendary episodes) don't want to be handcuffed by it. I expect that earlier showrunners never even gave consideration to an idea like canon. Just look at the Wikipedia article on Doctor Who Serials and observe the contradictions - even up to the present day in media other than the TV series - if you don't believe that.
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Nov 26, 2013
Wow theres some lack o knowledge here. First off None of the doctors (9-pre 50th 11) remember they saved Gallifrey. So they still believe they destroyed it, because they did. Timey-Wimey.
It leads into End of Time I think. But Russel was completly happy with the episode and loved it.
And Russel was working inbetween Doctor Who, Torchwood, Sarah Jane Adventures, and I think maybe one more. Moffat only has 2 shows, though this wouldnt be a problem if they were in the same universe. You could tell theres some blending in the shows, but its doing well.
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Nov 26, 2013
if you were right we would still have an elderly grumpy grandfather and his granddaughter, now in her 60's in the tardis visiting cavemen and probably still in black and white! Dr Who always changes eventually, even plotlines . we are now expecting there to be more than 13 Doctors for example. DRs 8.5, 9, 10, & 11 all remember the series as it was as nothing else changed, and they believe to their core that Galifrey is gone at their hands. So all those stories are exactly the same. I could easily explain the timelords return for a moment in the end of the tennent story by saying they were drawn out of the painting, instead of however it was explained. The Daleks didn't stay dead either.

Also Comics face the same problems when new writers take over and change past history. So there is precedent.
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Nov 26, 2013
While I enjoyed the episode, you make a compelling argument that this does undermine everything that was built which came before and I cannot really dispute that.
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Nov 25, 2013
I loved this feature episode. My feels had feels through most of the ep. I totally teared up when all THIRTEEN Doctors got together to freeze Gallifrey in time. Whoa!

John Hurt was absolutely awesome in this. Unlike many, I was so glad that it was Bad Wolf and not Rose Tyler that appeared in this episode. Like you say Kaitlin, Rose had her perfect ending and I was glad to see the back of her. She was my first companion with the reboot but she became my least favourite because of the 'epic' love story. Having Rose show up in this featured would have detracted from the the fact that this was a story about the Doctor and his past, present and future.
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Nov 25, 2013
" Moffat wrote away the fact that every incarnation to come after the end of the Time War cannot remember they've saved Gallifrey"
In The End of Time, the 10th doctor knew that Gallifrey had been time locked, rather than destroyed, and had to deal with the Time Lords finding a way to escape and coming forward, and he sent them back. So the 10th doctor, by that time remembered or found out in some way that it had not been destroyed.
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Nov 26, 2013
I thought the same thing you did, looked it up. The End of Time had the whole Time War time-locked, so Gallifrey still burned, and Rassilon was trying to escape from the past.
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Nov 25, 2013
I missed watching the tenth doctor tennant will always be my favourite, I liked that he had that darkness and rage inside, he always made an impact and did what was needed. I loved this episode it was done brilliantly, but I just wish that they would have let tennant see Rose she had such and impact on the doctor and was a significant person in his life concidering the death box chose her to talk to the doctor
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Nov 25, 2013
think the 50th who episode was a poorly written even jnts 20th anni story was better ...The zygons were pointless but were well done ...
The war of the daleks and time lords never really used infull...infact you were lucky to see a dalek !///Who the hell came up with the queen idea ! what a waste of the 50th's running time!would of rather seen 2 daleks talking !
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Nov 25, 2013
I was really hoping we'd catch a glimimps of Donna somewhere, just a snatch out of the corner of the eye. She is perhaps my all time favourite companion.

But other than that it was truely awesome.
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Nov 25, 2013
Ok..so I couldn't watch it live and being on the west coast I really had to avoid the internet all weekend to not be spoiled. The thing is, before I wouldnt care if I were spoiler, I would still watch it but this is one of those times I watched it with out that. I loved every minute even more. Capaldi's eyebrows. Man... That's was awesome. Tom baker even better. You know that part I loved? The two nerds with the scarf... When everyine couldn't tell who was human and who was zygon they could, but it didn't matter. In all the awesomeness of the doctor, that was a small story point that I feel could be set up in future series. Who's a zygon? Am I a zygon? Hmmm
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Nov 25, 2013
Well, that also tied the loose ends right up regarding the face of Boe's final words: "You are not alone"
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Nov 25, 2013
Didn't that lead to the stuff with The Master? Or am I getting my timelines mixed up... I wouldn't be a very good Doctor
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Nov 25, 2013
That was definately The Master, or to give him his name when the Doctor ran into him Professor Yana :

You
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Dec 01, 2013
The events of the end of time would have happened as they happened in the last days of the time war the Council actions were preparing, as as the doctor (10) stopped them from happening that allowed the time war to reach the final day in order for the events of the day of the doctor to happen I recon (but I was thinking that this would mean the master is just on galifry now)
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Nov 25, 2013
I'm about to watch it for the fourth time .... way better than the End of Time and that's one of my favorite ... which brings up the question, when he saves Gallifrey will the counsel/the president still try to end the universe? how did the events of end of time happen? i'm guessing end of time was Gallifrey escaping a time lock from before the events of this episode, and so-on
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Nov 25, 2013
if you remember the general guy said that "the councils plan has already failed"
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Nov 25, 2013
It a spectacular moment. but given established history the First and Second Doctors should not have been at Gallifrey. And among the words Clara erases in class are "No more time"...
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Nov 25, 2013
Am I the only one who realizes that since William Hurt was "The War Doctor" who was the regeneration of the Eighth Doctor, then the War Doctor is the Ninth Doctor, Eccleston is the Tenth,Tennant is the Eleventh Doctor, Smith is the Twelfth Doctor? The makes the next Doctor is the Thirteenth and last Doctor (according to the classic series, and reaffirmed by Tennant in an interview), unless of course he finds Gallifrey and they reward him with a new set of regenerations?

Just because the successive Doctors refuse to call him Doctor, he is still the eighth regeneration (ninth persona) of the Doctor.
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Nov 25, 2013
It's still 12 regens, the fact that John Hurt's Doctor was "The Warrior" and not "The Doctor". So you still get your 12 Doctors and one Warrior, so technically there are only 12 Doctors.

Steven Moffat even acknowledged it by saying - ""If you worry about such things, and I do, then I specifically said John Hurt's Doctor doesn't use the title. [Matt Smith's Doctor] is in his 12th body but he's the 11th Doctor, however there is no such character as the 11th Doctor - he's just The Doctor, that's what he calls himself.

"The numbering doesn't matter, except for those lists that you and I have been making for many years. So I've given you the option of not counting John Hurt numerically - he's the War Doctor."

Moffat also responded to questions about The Doctor's regeneration limit, which was introduced in Tom Baker story 'The Deadly Assassin'.

"Paul McGann turns into John Hurt so they're not the same incarnation. He used up another regeneration and I expect he'll be in trouble shortly - you can't break rules laid down in 'The Deadly Assassin'," he teased.
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Nov 25, 2013
DebbyHealey is right, If it's 13 doctors then it's 12 regenerations, 1 becomes 2 and so forth, the 1st Doctor hasn't regenerated from someone else. Also Tennant's 10th regenerated twice (once again to himself & once to Matt Smith) so that would mean no Capaldi but there is a Capaldi so something else is going on. Also McGann was regenerated with what the Sisterhood gave him in "Night of the Doctor" so maybe that changes the whole regeneration number??
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Nov 26, 2013
Capaldi's Doctor is the last one to appear in this episode, 13 TARDISes in all, not more, so maybe they are sticking with the 12 regenerations. I kinda doubt it though, they'll just cheat around it.
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Nov 25, 2013
They wrote out the 12 regenerations rule when Matt Smith guest-starred on an episode of the Sarah Jane Adventures when it became obvious it was going to limit the series.
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Nov 25, 2013
Actually Russell t Davies said that number was a joke. 5+ 0+7= 12 and all
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Nov 25, 2013
I know he said it was a joke, but the idea that he could have more regenerations is there. I also don't believe for a SECOND that they're anywhere close to ending the series. It performs too well, and is too popular around the world. They'll find a way around it some way, whether they decide to make that line not a joke or not. As long as people still watch it, I have a feeling they'll make it.
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Nov 26, 2013
didn't river song give up all of her regenerations to save the doctor? wouldn't that give him more? and i think she only regenerated twice. or at least on screen.
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Nov 25, 2013
Yeah I know. I just think them saying an outrageous number like 507 as canon ... Well that loses the magic a little doesn't it? I mean knowing there's an end and then figuring out a way around it and almost rebooting it, that's a different story but to say well he's immortal, he'll never die? I don't know it kinda loses the magic for me. Think about silence in the library and forest of the dead river songs line something about everyone knows that everyone does, but not the doctor. Does that make sense? I dunno still in awe of the 50th special and the devastating realization that Matt smith only has one episode left. :(
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Nov 25, 2013
As someone who never saw an episode of the Sarah Jane adventures, I wont count it as cannon unless its said on an episode of doctor who.
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Nov 25, 2013
Yeah but those 507 regenerations he mentioned there were a joke. The rule still applies, 12 regenerations.
Would be stupid to "just write it out", as it offers story potential.

If rumors based on the hints Steven Moffat has been dropping are correct we also might get to that story earlier then expected: 10 might have used up one of those regenerations when he was shot by a Dalek but channeled the regeneration energy into his older severed hand.

If this is true then there will be a story about that in the christmas special, as otherwiese 11 would be the last.
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Nov 26, 2013
Two points: The Eight Doctor actually died before he regenerated. The Sisters of Kern resurected for 4 minutes to give the opportunity to select a regeneration. (resurection glove?) Does his death reset or release him from the restriction? Two: The Master was trying to steal the 10th Doctor's regenerations to extend his own life. We may see more Timelords. Perhaps one will give regeneration cycles to the doctor.
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Nov 25, 2013
13th looks like dr.house haha. loved this i cried when baker showed up and all i can say is that it was perfect and i need moooore tennant and smith, this two need a spin-off were 10th and 11th have adventures together and lingering stares *_*

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Nov 25, 2013

I stand corrected! ^^
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Nov 25, 2013
Wasn't the quote ? :
Great men are forged in fire. It is the privilege of lesser men to LIKE the flame.
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Nov 25, 2013
I really loved this episode. So glad Rose came back in some way. So glad it was commercial free also. My favorite Doctor is Christopher Eccleston. I really wanted him to show up. Just a side note I don't think Christopher wants anything to do with the show in my opinion. Which really sucks. I mean I haven't seen one interview with him about the 50th. Ever person that has played the Doctor that's still alive has done something with the 50th anniversary. And people take this whole which number Doctor is what way to serious. If the show still markets Chris as 9th, David as10th, Matt as 11th and Peter the 12th. Then I would think that's what it is. Their not gonna go back change all that. If they did change the number they would come out & say they did plan and simple. So I can't wait til Christmas. I'm gonna miss Matt but I think Peter will do just fine.
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Nov 25, 2013
From what I've heard, Eccleston didn't have a great experience on the show, which is too bad because it would have been great to see him. And I agree about the numbers. They're not going to change them. Moffat gave several interviews prior to the special about that.
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Nov 26, 2013
Moffat was probably trying to keep the Christmas special spoiler free but he's had a U turn and admitted that Matt Smith is 13th Doctor. This makes the upcoming episode all the more exciting as how the heck are they gonna get around the 12 regeneration only limit?
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Nov 25, 2013
Ok I have to say I am confused about one thing, with Capaldi making a cameo, did he speak or didn't he? It really really sounded like him, when someone said it was all thirteen doctors. All the previous doctors said something, so it would make sense that Capaldi would say something as well. At about 1h 6m 40s into the movie, someone says it.

Now I'm really curious was it one of the council members or Capaldi? This is gonna bug the hell out of me. If I watch the movie one more time my bf will kill me lol
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Nov 25, 2013
What does it say when a tear comes to your eye at the sight of Tom Baker and you've not yet had the pleasure of watching the older episodes of Doctor Who? At the very least it was a tear for Puddleglum I suppose.
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Nov 25, 2013
Did anybody else see Ten's hair erection when he heard "Bad Wolf girl"?

And why the f*ck didn't they get to talk to Bad Wolf girl? I really wanted to see what they would've done, especially considering that because the Interface chose the face of Rose, that means that of all the people the Doctor has ever met, she was the most important. She was the most important person in his past, present, future, and universe. I just really want to see how Eleven would react to talking to Rose.
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