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FTW vs. WTF: The TV Week in Review (February 8)

It was so nice of winter to flare up just as the Winter Olympics began so that while we watch all these athletes skiing and skating and curling in Russia, all this snow will make us feel like we're there. But let's hope that all the deplorable conditions we've been hearing about stay put in Sochi, and that all our drinking water remains drinkable and all our stray dogs remain unslaughtered. And let's definitely pray that Sochi doesn't have its own version of FTW vs. WTF, because knowing the reputation that city has developed over the last week, we fear that their FTWs would be Sean Saves the World marathons and Mario Lopez. Anyway, here's what we thought was rad and sad from the past seven days in television.



FTW:

The kittens won the animal-bowl match-up, paws-down


Hallmark Channel's rookie Super Bowl diversion featuring miniature cats romping on a fake football field proved to be way more entertaining than Animal Planet's Puppy Bowl, National Geographic's Fish Bowl, and even Fox's Human Bowl. Unapologetically stuffed with feline puns and goofy hosts who were game for anything, the kitten version of the Big Game divided its baby animals into teams based on color, gave them awesome football-related names ("Meowshawn Lynch," "Tomcat Brady," "Terry Bradclaw"), and had actual rules that led to an offensive explosion. Also, cats are way better than dogs. (Dog people, please address any and all pro-canine responses to cat-lover Tim, he wrote this.)


FTW:

Some guy named Jamie Casino made the best Super Bowl ad of all


This two-minute spot only aired in Georgia, but it's way too awesome to be confined to just one state. Casino laid out his transformation from a seedy defense lawyer to a defender of the innocent and protector of the powerless in way too dramatic fashion. We can't wait for him to put that Budweiser puppy on trial for inappropriate inter-species relations.


FTW:

Benedict Cumberbatch visited Sesame Street to solve his cutest case yet


Who knew Murray was such a huge Sherlock fan? The furry red Muppet morphed into "Murray-arty" when Cumberbatch dropped by, and challenged his impeccably dressed guest with quite a puzzle. As a result, we suspect the Cumberbatch Army will be gaining quite a few new recruits; Cumberbatch's first step was to teach them how to count, but we all know that after counting comes Tumblring, and squeeing, and other made-up verbs that only make sense to people under the age of 15.


FTW:

Stiles Stilinski is a WHAT? 

Remember when Teen Wolf was just a fun, campy show about hunky werewolves that didn't rip out our hearts and ruin our lives by transforming its most fun and lovable character into something evil/something possessed by something evil/a firefly killer? Those were good times. But these are GREAT times. The final twist of "Silverfinger" was Teen Wolf at its best. 


FTW:

Cohle and Hart's car chats are already a Tumblr meme



We've been grooving on True Detective, and the conversations between its lead detectives as they drive all over town have been a particular highlight. Given Cohle's philosophical replies to even the most mundane of queries, it was only a matter of time before someone mimicked his style and applied it to popular culture in meme-friendly form.


FTW:

Elementary's non-homicide B-plot


We've been hoping for a case that doesn't involve a death—gory or otherwise—for a while now. "Corpse de Ballet" did include a grisly murder (a ballerina had her throat cut, and then she was bisected!), but the "Joan investigates on her own" storyline focused on hunting down a homeless veteran who had, in fact, been abducted by his family and locked in a basement so they could collect his disability checks. That Joan busted up this kidnapping-and-fraud ring (the family had two other hostages in captivity) seemed to earn Sherlock's respect, so maybe we'll get a corpseless A-plot sooner rather than later.


FTW:

Is Reign the next Sleepy Hollow?


Seriously, so much crazy stuff is happening on that show right now! Heads are getting chopped halfway off! A disfigured princess is running loose in the castle! Pagan soul balls are being concealed in underskirts! (You might just need to see it to believe it.) This week's "Inquisition" was amazing because of all the things we just listed; Reign is showing us concepts we've never seen before (a Pagan soul ball full of hair?) while still managing to be a thoughtful and fully rounded depiction of female characters. If you're not watching yet, you're missing out. 


FTW:

The Big Bang Theory's big kiss


It was on the lips and everything! And Sheldon liked it.


FTW:

The Tomorrow People reveals one mother of a twist


In the last episode before a mini-hiatus, the freshman drama turned interesting for the first time in a while with a nice twist involving Stephen's mom, Marla (Sarah Clarke). SPOILER: She's a Tomorrow Person. Duh. It's just the kind of nutty surprise a show like this needs.


FTW:

Amazon's pilot for Transparent


It takes a while to find a groove, but the surprise detail we can't talk about here is totally worth it. The new dramedy about a family that's upended by an unexpected announcement is in contention to become one of Amazon's next original series, it looks like the second coming of Six Feet Under, and it stars Jeffrey Tambor in what might be his best role yet. The best part? You can watch it for free right now and then take part in the democratic process to get it made into a full-fledged series. 


FTW:

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is on the right "T.R.A.C.K.S."


We don't want to take all the credit for the series turning in one of its best episodes to date just hours after we suggested fixes for some of its lingering problems, but we're definitely happy that things seem to be looking up. Agent Ward is finally showing signs of being an actual human, and the attention the show is paying to ongoing story arcs is definitely a sign of progress. HOWEVER: What was up with Stan Lee's cameo? The comic legend's appearances in Marvel films work best when they're a blink-and-you'll-miss-'em moments, or scenes where he only has to say a few words. His role on Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. not only gave him too many lines, but too many hussies hanging on his arms. Less is more, people!


FTW:

Party at Captain Holt's house!


Brooklyn Nine-Nine's post-Super Bowl episode was fine, but Tuesday's "The Party" was one of its best yet. The members of the Nine-Nine were hilariously out of their element at Captain Holt's highbrow birthday soiree, and change of setting was an excellent way for the show to really underscore the quirks and characteristics that each of its ensemble players brings to the table: Gina is a psychological anomaly/wonder, Jake eats crab wrong, Terry's obsessed with French New Wave cinema, etc. Plus, we got to meet the captain's husband, Kevin Cozner! And it turns out that Holt is the funny one in the relationship! Good stuff.




FTWTF:

Black Sails' Pirate Sunglasses


Yep, that's a pirate in some dope sunglasses. Historically this is entirely inaccurate, but look how cool he is!


FTWTF:

Jay Leno's Tonight Show watch is ended


The oft-maligned comedian was far from edgy, and his last week of shows was generally underwhelming and even kind of pitiful at times. BUT: No one can deny that Leno was incomparably committed to his craft, and the guy was number one in late night for two decades. That has to count for something, and his emotional goodbye on Thursday evening was not only touching to watch, but totally earned. 




WTF:

Juan Pablo soils the sea and then shames the slut


The Bachelor's Spanish stud continued his downward spiral from smooth sweetheart to the scourge of American women this week when he ocean-boned Clare in the warm Vietnamese waters and then had the gall to call her out for what happened, because it was irresponsible behavior for his daughter to see. Clare was completely devastated after being so open with Juan Pablo; meanwhile, he moved on to feeling up other contestants. Dude, if you want to set a good example for Camila: DON'T GO ON THE BACHELOR, PERIOD. This guy is a total dirtbag.


WTF:

How I Met Your Mother's "Sunrise" burned us bad


The episode absolutely had to happen in order for the series to move several of its ongoing plots forward, but it was executed so poorly that it made our skin peel instead of letting us bask in its warmth. We're willing to forgive Barney's relapse into Bro-ney and Marshall's ghost-fighting, but we just can't overlook that terrible final scene, when Robin floated up into the sky like a damn balloon as Ted finally let her go. A note to all TV writers: Please believe your viewers are smart enough to understand a metaphor without actually bashing them over the head with it.


WTF:

The Top Chef finale was a travesty


We understand that reality TV is heavily constructed and edited, and thus we never get the full story of what goes down but what the hell was going on at that judges table? It seemed like the panel was dead-locked in the final culinary showdown between Nicholas and Nina, even though Tom and Gail—but especially Tom, good grief—were pushing for Nicholas while Emeril and Hugh seemed to be siding with Nina. That the judges, in their post-air discussions, seemed unable to articulate why they settled on Nicholas leads us to believe that Tom just bullied everyone into the decision so they could all get back to their hotel rooms.


WTF:

AMC Orders a reality show about arena football, starring Gene Simmons

The LA Kiss are a real football team about to kick off their inaugural season, and yep, they're owned by KISS members Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley. Now cameras will be following what's sure to be quite a circus for a docu-series about what goes on behind the scenes of an arena football team named the LA Kiss that's owned by Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley. You're only encouraging these things, AMC.


WTF:

Some celebrities should've just kept quiet about Phillip Seymour Hoffman's death

Jared Padalecki called Hoffman's death "stupid," tried to fauxpoligize, and just ended up looking like a bigger ass. LeVar Burton joked about dying without pants on. Look, a really talented dude died because he failed to overcome an addiction he struggled with for literal decades, and now his three young kids are fatherless. Regardless of your personal feelings about the circumstances surrounding Hoffman's death, if you can't think before tweeting something hurtful—especially if you've got legions of young, impressionable followers—maybe you should do your PR person and favor and lose your iPhone for a few days.


WTF:

Nashville's attempt to clean up its messes is actually making things messier


What's with the ongoing TV trend of Character A sitting by and watching as Character B dies, huh? This week, Teddy looked on as Lamar suffered a heart attack and did nothing to try to save his life. We're glad Nashville is attempting to erase its weakest links so it can be the fun soapy drama about country music we all want it to be, but that was just cruel. (P.S. Teddy's gotta be the next one to bite it, right?)


WTF:

Someone stole Ben and Leslie's love lock!


Remember when, in Parks and Recreation's 100th episode, Ben surprised Leslie with a trip to Paris, and then while they were there, they snapped a lock onto the famous Pont Neuf bridge? Well some jerk took it! A fan of the show who recently stopped by to see the memento posted evidence of the lock's disappearance to Tumblr, and we absolutely agree with her statement that "whoever you are, super hardcore Parks fan, you suck."


What's on YOUR list of TV loves and hates this week?


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Yeah the whole Robin floating away on HIMYM was really bad, but I thought the episode as a whole was just awful, so the floating thing was just a bad icing on an already horrible cake.
First of all I thought every single storyline was excruciatingly boring and most of them quite insulting too.
I hate the whole Marshall taking the judge position without telling Lily, I just think it makes him a jerk, and both him and the show seem to think that his dreams, and happiness, matter more than what Lily wants. Plus he keeps talking about it being his lifelong dream to be a judge, but if I remember correctly his dream was becoming an environmental lawyer, which he already was, where as Lily's dream, since the beginning of the show, has been being an artist (or somehow connected with art).
I guess Barney's storyline was just about him being his old self, but the whole passing down his legacy of being a dick just felt awful. None of it was even slightly funny, the two guys were boring, and the whole thing just felt really repetitive (even more so than usual). I also just felt like they were normalising Barney's extreme behaviour, by saying this is how every single man should live, (instead of just one kinda crazy guy).
And then the whole Robin and Ted storyline was just boring, I don't even know what else to say.... it was sooo boring.

So all in all this was just a very disappointing episode, especially considering that last week's episode, with almost none of the original class, was pretty solid.
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a LOL wtf what world are we living in when we can not trust our own family Arrow, Tomorrow People, Supernatural
Hopefully the "nice surprise" in Tomorrow People will give it a second life to go out with a bang
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The Elementary homeless guy was NOT kidnapped by his family, it was some woman saying she was his sister but she wasn't.
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I don't know if I would have put Nashville in the WTF section for this, but indeed it was cruel.
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Brooklyn Nine-Nine definitely FTW I was laughing my butt off the entire episode even saved it on my DVR to watch again.
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FTW: The Super Bowl yogurt ad with the Full House reunion; the Jaguar "good to be bad" ad" if only because I was probably the only person at the Super Bowl party I was attending who could name all three actors by name; last week's Justified in general and Art's confrontation with Marcos in the diner, the assassination of acting Sheriff Mound, and Raylon's confession to Art in particular; the B-plot involving Watson's search for a homeless man's "imaginary" friend on Elementary (although if I want to see a non-murder case as the basis for the whole hour, I'll watch another show).

WTF: MSNBC trying to waffle on the Olympics (how is it OTT to complain about the host site of the most expensive Winter Games ever to not have hotels built and to have brown liquid coming out of taps?); authorities' response on all levels (as reported on The Rachel Maddow Show) to the water crisis in West Virginia.
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I don't see anything about all the idiots getting upset about that Coca-Cola commercial. Maybe it made it onto last week's WTF list? This is the ad that got a lot of morons to yell #BoycottCoke


This is one of the funniest comments I found:

I have bought my last bottle of coke and all there other products . Let the foreignors u worship make u rich, u don't have any respect for this country. your a bunch of treasonist S>O>B>s. Rot in hell ! ur money isn't going to do u any good there.
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This commercial spawned that type of hatred? I am speechless.
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Maybe it's because of the Preacher news, but that comment I quoted made me think of this:

(If I recall correctly, Jesse had just beat the crap of some of those KKK guys, and then forced them to take the hoods off).



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FTW: Reign and Teen Wolf had such awesome episodes!!
FTW: The Tomorrow People--cool twist. But why did she waste all that money on psychologists and meds then for Stephen?? Does that mean Stephan's brotheris not a TP person? Who made the camera float when his mother was not there?
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About the Pont Neuf in Paris and the locks the city is talking about removing all locks because it's becoming to heavy and the bridge could collapse...
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Living a real Tragedy(The Syrian one(Where more than A HUNDRED THOUSAND of innocent Syrians died), I got to agree with this Jared guy, Hoffman's death is not a tragedy(Well, Maybe to his family), he died at his own hands, he wasn't tortured or killed by someone else or for fighting for some kind of cause
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Another thing about Paris (and it's not on the Pont Neuf, the Pont Neuf is entirely made of stones. It's either on Pont des Arts or Pont de l'Archevêché - yep we have two "bridges of love"): town employees are paid to cut out several thousands locks every week to make room for more. It's been the case since locks existed and tourists came to Paris. So it's probably not an hardcore fan, but a guy doing his job. Sorry ^^'
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Marla being a Tomorrow People was by far the best FTW of the week. But I must desagree on the WTF of HIMYM. It wasn't a great episode, but it was according to the plot.
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How I Met Your Mother's episode this week was one of the best in a while, I don't know what the hate is about. Yes, the metaphor was a bit overly-explained, but the episode was well-done and a bit depressing as well. It was a good episode.
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My personal gripe is Ted acting completely against his own character by telling Robin his breakup was because of her/ he's still in love with her etc. and the fact that Marshall and Lily's big season long story was resolved without Lily actually being there (I hope they explain where she went). People are saying that Ted's bit was all in his head but I don't see it (obviously the floating bit was). Just seemed sloppy to me and a way to force all stories to a point where they could be considered 'done' so they can move on to other things.
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The Jamie Casino ad was one of the best television pilots I have seen. It was a surprise to realize it was an actual ad not a pilot.

As for the sunglasses on Black Sails, for the record, there were sunglasses in use in that era. They were not common, but given that these ARE pirates; it wouldn't be that far out of the realm of possibility that the items were liberated from a wealthy ship.
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Agree that Marvel's Agents of SHIELD is getting better.
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FTW: Fallon's excellent final Late Night.
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I can never get enough of The Muppets.
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Floating Robin was the WORST thing I've ever seen on HIMYM.
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Serious WTF....I'm still upset about Nina Compton not winning. Top Chef use to be one of the creditable shows on BRAVO, but Tom and his minion mucked that up when they went for choosing a "character" to win over an actual Top Chef. And then have the gall to say, we weren't judging on manners just food....well call me crazy, when you say "we'll have to judge on overall service," part of me thought that meant we'll take in consideration the chef didn't treat his staff like poo (that would be Nicholas). Oh well, Nina Compton is too good for Bravo; she'd be better suited for a real network that knows about actual food, Food Network.
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i think you mean Nina didnt treat her staff like poo. But I agree Nina should have won
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Thanks....that's what I meant.
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Agreed Nina should have won especially after Nick was all douchey during that French and Spanish challenge letting Stephanie go home for his crappy dishes even though he had immunity he should have resigned.
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WTF I have no idea what the judges on Top Chef were thinking. Just terrible. Nina had been consistent the entire season. She's the real winner.
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My FTW of the week goes to King of the Nerds which is just too hilarious not to mention.
True Detective is great and the usual suspects, Arrow, TBBT,Tomorrow People's mom were all pretty cool moments. Stiles in teen Wolf was expected but still pretty kickass.
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FTW: Katrina Law as Nyssa on Arrow. Nyssa is a murderous villain, yet she still came off as sympathetic.

FTW: Brooklyn Nine-Nine: Hitchcock's confused reaction. Priceless.


WTF: The murder of the woman buying flowers at the beginning of Almost Human was a little over-the-top for an episode with an already high body count. I mean the service robot could have been programmed to just go into a crowded building and blow wholes in the roof and the same outcome would have happened. The scene just seemed a little forced.
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I'll jump on the Jared Padalecki bandwagon despite having no idea who he is. You can say that PSH died of an addiction that he struggled with for years. And that's unfortunate. But a lot of people are acting like he was a hero or an innocent victim. His death from drugs was 100% his fault. There is no one else to blame. He CHOSE to take the drugs that killed him. He failed to beat the addiction. He CHOSE to take the drugs that got him addicted in the first place. Every step of the way, what happened to him was of his own doing.

If we want to feel bad about someone who died, maybe we should reserve that for true victims. Like kids walking home from school that die in drive-by shootings or 5-year-olds with brain tumors.

But that's the society we live in now. If someone's famous, everything they do is glorified.
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You have a childish, myopic and helplessly sheltered understanding of choice and free will. Hopefully, by the time you've matured enough to understand this, you'll have forgotten you ever made this comment.
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Love your new age thinking, Eunomiac, NOT! By making out PSH death as equal to any death which I gather is the case is just not logical. So if this was the exact quote as TV.com states,

""When I think "tragedy", I think of St Judes, of genocide, of articles I read in the paper. But, yes, either way, a death, is sad.""

I see absolutely no outrage or even any insult at all to PSH death. And I've been a huge huge fan of rock stars who have died these indulgent lifestyles but in no way should any of their deaths be equal to say truly innocent deaths.

For so many decades now there has been countless avenues of help and knowing when those who have died this way have children and don't just stop by any means necessary, I'd then call those people very cowardice since so much more is at stake.

I have zero clues on PSH childhood or pressures that led him down that path but so many of us can state under NO circumstance would we EVER do something that'd kill us so it's up to the individual and their loved ones to battle it with all they have.

And I think if having a sheltered life protects anyone from going down that path, they should be damned proud of it and never capitulate to that crowd which just can't handle things. I'm saddened by it all just like the quote said which had no ill will toward the individual but instead the media circus shapes things where no one can see things for what they are.



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This is what happens when you don't click the link to read the full story. The quote TV.com gave was part of Jared's "apology" in response to backlash against his initial tweet:

"'Sad' isn't the word I'd use to describe a 46 year old man throwing his life away to drugs. 'Senseless' is more like it. 'Stupid.'"

That's what all this is about: Jared actually *argued* against people claiming PSH's death was "sad", preferring the word "stupid". Even a base understanding of the clinically-proven and scientifically established nature of addiction should immediately demonstrate why such a tweet was very, very deserving of backlash.
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Then I'd argue that the death of Adolf Hitler was sad. He was addicted to power. It's not his fault that he couldn't overcome that addiction. And that addiction eventually led to his death.

People say awfully stupid things on twitter. Not because they have a stupid thought, but because the format of twitter causes people to condense their thoughts down to what are often too few words to fully convey the intent behind their tweet.
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oh.. come'on.. Jared Padaleckitotally FTW!!!... i'm sick of people making tragedies about the death of drug addicts.. that people live and die by their own choices and NO.. that's not as sad as genocide.
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A death is a death is a death. Let's stop differentiating between them as if there is some merit in deciding which one is "sadder." Everything is relative anyway. I find the fact that we live in a society where anyone feels that they can make negative (and frequently anonymous) comments about someone's death like they are an authority when they never even knew them (yes, I'm looking at you, everyone who has disparaged Philip Seymour Hoffman's death) sickening. We are all born who we are by chance--and Philip Seymour Hoffman was born to become perhaps one of the most brilliant movie actors who ever lived. And he was born a boy who would one day become an addict. Neither of which makes him any more or less valuable a human than anyone else, but I will miss his incredible talent, and I don't doubt his children and his partner, among many others who knew him personally, will miss him terribly. Please, show some respect for their loss and keep your judgmental opinions of him to yourself.
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Show respect for his family and friends loss? Why-? He clearly had no respect for them. Drug addicts are some of the most selfish people yet to die. Why don't you give your respect to someone who deserves it, instead of offering misguided and morally flawed judgements on somebodies opinion of a selfish drug addict.
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Thank you for assuming I don't respect other losses as well just because I respect the loss of Philip Seymour Hoffman. I think I made it quite clear that loss of life is always tragic for someone, and that is something to be respected. What is not to be respected is passing judgment on someone you didn't know personally and whose demons you can't possibly understand, not having been him. Everyone has demons--I believe it was Jesus who said he who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone. I'm not arguing here that being a drug addict is a sin, but I do not doubt that everyone, myself included, does things, intentionally or unwittingly, that hurt the ones we love most. But I am done trying to argue with people who are so blinded by prejudice they will never really be able to see past their own assumptions and consider the merits of what I am saying.
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Addicts are the same world over, rich or poor. They lie, scheme and think only of themselves. He died surrounded by what loved, his drug. This has nothing to do with sin, Jesus or judgement. It is merely a fact, addicts are a black hole that ruin lives. Let them pass, don't pity them, and never think they're victim. The only victims are who they leave behind.
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Well.. If i don't know personally any of those people.. excuse me for feel more tragic the death of innocent people... specially 'cause they didn't decide to kill themself. And no... i don't think that saying that the death of innocent people (families, kids, babies) is more tragic rest some value to all the virtues and achievements that Mr. Hoffman earn during his life.
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FTWTF: The Preacher pilot is going to happen. This could be awesome, but it's very, very difficult to do Preacher right, and I strongly doubt that AMC is even going to let them do it right. I can't wait to see who they'll cast as Jesse and The Saint of Killers. I think I'm going to be disappointed.

FTWTF: Fans of The Vampire Diaries (at this site) have finally turned against the show, but it wasn't because of all the plot holes or anything like that. It was just that the show has recycled old storylines one time too many.

FTW: Banshee reaffirmed its position as the best thing on TV that doesn't involve dragons, boobs or Joffrey. Oh wait, it does involve boobs. That's even better.
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"Oh wait, it does involve boobs. That's even better." Hahaha
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Regarding The Vampire Diaries: I do like this show, except for the return of Damon to season 1 Damon. I am really disappointed in that. My other problem with this show is when Katherine died. Shouldn't Bonnie have seen her at the moment of death? Bonnie wasn't even in the episode. Could that be considered jumping the shark?
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That's a plot hole, but it's hardly the first one. A show doesn't jump the shark by doing something they've done lots of times before.
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Regarding Elementary, If I am not wrong (Spoilers), I don't think that the veteran was kidnapped by "his" family. In fact Joan suspected the perp only when she came to know that the person claiming to be the vet's sister was not really related to him...
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Teen Wolf was epic per usual. But this episode seemed to be better than the already great episodes so far this season. 3b of this show is currently the best thing I am watching right now.
The Olympics! I love the games and I am already starting to get sleep deprived and am falling behind on my normal stuff because I will not miss a second and I will not be spoiled.

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Top Chef
Nick just irritates me and I just really wanted Shirley to win it all even though that wasn't possible.
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How could I forget- FTW: Another Spartacus alum hits Starling City (bringing the total of 'Spartacus' cast members on the CW on Wednesday night's to 4, (Manu Bennett, Cynthia Addai-Robinson, and Katrina Law here, Simon Merrils on 'Tomorrow People') as Katrina Law makes her first appearance as Nyssa al Ghul.(.sp?). 'Arrow' had been slumping just a bit the past couple of episodes but made up for it in a big way with a great episode focusing on the Lance sisters and putting an end to the question of who do we want to be The Green Arrow's Black Canary with Caity Lotz on the salmon ladder in the first scene. Sorry Laurel fans. Even Diggle approves! (But WTF where the hell has Diggle been?)

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Well done, makers of Arrow. Now bring us Ashur.
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Though somewhat insensitive, I agree with Jared. It's stupid that such a talented actor lost his life to drugs at such a relatively young age. It would be silly not to impress upon his young followers that drugs will only lead to a life ended too soon.
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It's stupid in the way dying from cancer and heart disease is stupid. Addiction is a disease. If he wanted to use his 'influence' he could have talked about the importance of treatment, even when things seem hopeless.

Instead he showed a complete lack of empathy and compassion that further alienates and isolates addicts and their families. Not to mention no sympathy for Hoffman's family.
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To be fair, I don't feel sorry for people with cancer if they smoked for 40 years. I can feel sorry for their family, but not for them.

And while you can get cancer or heart disease without making any bad choices, you WILL NOT die of a drug overdose unless you CHOOSE to take drugs. So it's not a fair comparison.
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^What UrzasRod said. Hoffman made serious mistakes. And they need to be evaluated as such, rather than inconsequential details in 'disease' that took Hoffman's life. Stop posthumously stripping Hoffman of his agency in his own life.
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@Zeofan1 Why the hell did you send me a hostile private message? Hmm. Why, when I agree with you? Please cease and consider yourself reported.
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Hoffman had been clean for years. As tough as addiction is and he cannot be judged negatively for whatever led him to seek that escape in the first place--if any--his decision to go back to them now and risk his life, was a choice. Any addict faces temptation and there are ways to avoid setbacks.
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"stripping a person of agency in his/her life" is the definition of addiction.

Please try to understand why you are wrong: You simply cannot comprehend a circumstance in which you are not in full control---and thus, fully responsible---for your actions. The concept of addiction is utterly alien to you.

It absolutely amazes me that people actually think Hoffman "chose"---in any sense of the word---to abandon his family and end his life by injecting a lethal dose of poison into his bloodstream.
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You know, I actually think that Jared Padalecki calling out the circumstances of Hoffman's death as stupid isn't such a bad thing. I mean, Supernatural's fans are indeed young and impressionable... so, why not impress upon them that drugs are bad and can lead to death?

And, before anyone freaks out on me, I actually enjoyed a lot of Hoffman's work and thought he was quite the inspired actor. I just think, with the senselessness of his death... why not at least have something positive come out of it?
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The only positive thing is that Tumblr blew up with lots of thoughtful posts about how ignorant Jared Padalecki is about the nature of addiction. Hopefully some of those young fans have a better understanding of the disease. The 'just say no' approach to drug education is a failure. And shaming addicts holds people back from seeking treatment.
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Holy Hell. If they don't say no, how else do you expect them to avoid becoming addicted? Tumblr is a wretched hive of bleeding heart social justice idiots, and the Supernatural fandom is notorious for attracting their oversensitive ilk. Stop treating addiction like some sort of unavoidable disease. It can be stopped. Addicts are responsible for the consequences of their actions.
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You're not an idiot, you're just ignorant and very proud of it. This makes you especially annoying to those of us who've bothered to do some investigation into the reality (or lack thereof) of coercive addiction. I feel my blood pressure soaring with every word of yours I read.
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I never claimed to be an idiot, nor am I ignorant to the reality of addiction. My brother went to rehab, you putz. It's people like you who'd deny him his agency that are the real problem. The consequences of his actions sobered him to the reality of them; taking responsibility for them brought him moral solidarity . I'd rather he be a proudly responsible, autonomous man than have him a dead teenager with people like you cooing that he was a helpless angel with no choice in what happened to his life. It's people like you who are the problem; you're enablers.
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THANK YOU! It's like people don't realize we have free-will.

Drugs don't magically blow themselves up our noses and/or inject themselves into our veins. People make decisions, and sometimes those decisions are shitty.

I really don't see the problem with someone, with influence over young people (who can be the most impressionable when it comes to drugs, booze, smokes, etc.), calling out drug-use as stupid. I honestly wish it was done more. If only we lived in a better world...
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"THANK YOU! It's like people don't realize we have free-will."

I have spent the last hour reading this thread with growing disgust at the total ignorance so many of you are showing to the reality---and my God, what hope for the world if people don't recognize the reality---of addiction.

But that quote takes the cake: You, sir, win tonight's Internet Award for Most Idiotic Waste of Bandwidth.
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I agree with this.
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FTW/WTF: 'Psych' continuing to close the doors on the boys from Santa Barbara in style with an episode featuring primarily the man with the nose, Burton Guster. For the first time in the history of the show 'Gus' even had chemistry with the girl!!!!!!! Seeing Roday and Hill appear in the post credit to thank the fans and actually say out loud what we all kind of knew but didn't think USA would be that dumb to do -the next five episodes will be the final five. NEVER NOMINATED?????? James Roday and Dule Hill have been the funniest duo on television for a while now rivaled only now by another duo calling it quits after this year Jason Gann and Elijah Wood. (Really - they nominate Jim Parsons and Johnny Galecki and Don Cheadle (who's in a Comedy but his character isn't the slightest bit funny) and John Cryer for awards but none of these four have ever been nominated? WTF ) Thanks to the Psych crew for going out with a little bit of style. The last good show left in gone now USA - Keep following the NBC mothership (No disrespect to PFunk) down the toilet with the garbage you have left and incoming! Really, you suck USA. Now just be kind and cut the cord on 'Royal Pains', 'White Collar', and 'Covert Affairs' as well because those shows are just on life support.

FTW: How can you not FTW the most beautifully shot episode of television of the year? 'Banshee' and that stunning Carolina blue sky. A quiet episode (2 deaths, one major character) dealing with the futility of having dreams of our two leads as portrayed by Antony Starr and Ivana Milicevic. The anticipation for the final 5 set up perfectly as the house that was his dream to share with his Anna burned to the ground. Nice having a little 'Sugar' Frankie Faison in the final scene to bring us back to 'Banshee' Really, for anyone not checking this show out for fear that if they turn on Cinemax their eternal soul will be damned to hell or whatever reason you have for not visiting 'Banshee' you are missing one of the current greats. It just keeps getting better and the fact that it is unlike anything else on television is why it is so utterly fantastic. Visit 'BANSHEEEEEEEEEEEEE' and I guarantee you'll go back.

FTW: The best program about women - with women in front of and behind the camera and writing the scripts - putting a finger up to the endless parade of cliched female stereotypical characters that fill our televisions every night - the show that the CW will be cursed if they have the stupidity to cancel 'Reign'. This should be the highest rated program for women ages 13-100. These women are so great, they're writing better male characters as well. Adelaide Kane and Megan Follows in their roles as Mary Queen of Scots and Catherine deMedici are must see. Fans of both of the boys, Tony Regbo and Torrance Coombs need to stick with it or you won't be getting anymore of either of them as it hangs on the bubble. Guess what I'm saying is WATCH 'REIGN'.

FTW: PSSSSSST: 'Helix' continues to get better. It's better and scarier than the one returning Sunday.

FTW: Unlike Seth McFarlane's animated shows the new one on FX - 'Chozen'- for all its bluster has a pretty large sized heart beating at the core and that's kind of awesome for this show about the first white gay rapper which is really very funny.

WTF: As awesome as 'Archer: Vice' has been (haters just step away), you better not be getting rid of Ron Cadillac Mallory Archer!!!!!!!
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FTW - Burton Guster solving his doppleganger's murder with passion and... "gusto". Go to hell, puns!

FTW to viewers for losing The X Factor, Michael J Fox Show, and Sean Saves the World.

WTF to the Broncos for that awful game, try not starting getting scored on in the first 12 seconds of EACH HALF! Also, maybe pay attention to the ball during the FIRST SNAP! Idiots.

FTW to Archer Vice for finally finding a funny episode with all the cocaine business.

A gentle WTF to Jim Parsons for his "stewed homo?" misunderstanding on The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson, that was a very weird interview and a bizarre note to end on.

FTWTF to Sherlock, you have the most ridiculous storyline with Mary's past and killing people and not killing people, and you have the hero killing someone, but it's done with solid acting and put together smartly.

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I liked the stuff about the metric system in the beginning:

Cyril: ...also known as a metric ton, but...
Archer's mom: Metric? Who uses metric?
Lana: Every single country on the planet except for us, Liberia and Burma.
Archer: Wow. Really? Cause you never think of those other two as having their shit together.
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The later callbacks to that were just right, although I can't remember either.
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Agreed on the Archer Vice, was starting to get worried they'd lost too much of their magic.
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Glad to hear the Kitten Bowl was entertaining. I couldn't find Hallmark Channel in my guide in time, so I missed it, but it sounds like it was pretty good. Good to hear Tim has the stones to call out cats as superior to dogs in public.

Ha ha, suck a butt, HIMYM, not only is this like the 83rd time Ted has gotten over Robin, but that ridiculous floating away at the end was like a bad SNL sketch that didn't know how to end.
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FTW: Joan solving a case on her own on Elementary was awesome.
FTW: Sheldon and Amy kissing on the TBBT we are still going awww and SQUEEE!!!!
FTW: Gus quitting his job like a champ on Psych. We've all dreamed it and Gus did it for us all.
FTW: The Following SHOWS WHERE CANCELED!!! Good Bye to the awful Michale J. Fox show and So LONG TO THE X FACTOR !!!!! We Won't Miss you and We are GLAD THAT YOU ARE GONE.
FTW/WTF. It is rare of me to put POI in this category but as much as I did love the episode the mustache and the awful music that was played through out the episode just ruined it for me.
FTW/WTF: Almost Human for having John Larroquette on as a guest Star for he made that episode awesome. However, the weird twist at the end of the episode left us all scratching our heads.
FTW/WTF Intelligence I loved the surprise twist in this episode but what was the deal with the whole Father/Daughter angle that you where trying to do between Director Lillian Strand and Leland Strand.
WTF: Once again the writers of Criminal Minds. Okay we get the fact that this was your 200 but you people can do better then having J J Kidnapped by terrorist and then spend the whole hour doing nothing but flash backs that even the writers of Arrow are better at then you guys.

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FTW; Gus quit his job like a champ.

FTW; Conan's interview with the TWD cast. Also and addendum to that would be that Lauren Cohan might be the most attractive woman currently on a tv show in the US. Because damn.



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In relation to those padlocks, most people don't realise but at least once a year the french authorities come along and cut huge amounts off.

It's not a evil thing, if they don't the extra load of all the padlocks combine to make the bridge unsafe. So if they never cut them off eventually the bridge would collapse. Sorry to shatter the dreams of anyone who thinks their padlock will stand the test of time.
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I'm sort of disgusted so many here are agreeing with Jared, because addiction is not something you can just quit one day and be all good. It affects you for the rest of your life, and Hoffman was sober for many years, but unfortunately he relapsed. I'm sure of anyone had a family member who died from drug abuse you would agree it is a tragedy. You can agree with the sentiment of what Jared said, but he tweeted that hours after his death, and just because he died of an overdose does not make his death any less a tragedy, he had a wife and three kids, I certainly consider then losing their father a tragedy. Jared was a douche for posting that tweet, if he felt that way he should of just stayed away from twitter, because he deserves every amount of backlash that resulted from it.
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Whether he tweeted about hours or days after his death, it really wouldn't have mattered. Maybe Hoffman should have considered his wife and three kids before he put a needle in his arm. I understand addiction is awful and it's not something you can "get over", but to even do it in the first place is where it all falls on you. And if you don't know what you're getting yourself in to when you first try a drug, then that's pretty dumb too.
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This doesn't make it any less of a tragedy. And it's still pretty bad taste to insult a person who just died.
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I'm not going to pity someone who ultimately chose a path that was going to lead to nothing but destruction to themselves/everybody around them. The only people I will feel any sympathy for is his family for having to watch someone basically kill themselves. If that makes me heartless or is "bad taste" then so be it.
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"...so many here are agreeing with Jared..."

I think that for that post to have 29 thumbs up already, some JP fan had to tweet the link to this page and mention that specific post. Even the most obviously correct and totally uncontroversial posts don't get 29 thumbs up that fast.

I agree that it was a bit douchey to tweet that Hoffman's death was stupid so soon, but I have to say that what irritates me the most about this is that some celebrity's poorly worded tweets are considered news.
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Plot clarification for Elementary, it was not the homeless guy's family who kidnapped him and the other 2 guys. It was someone pretending to be his sister.
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Thank you. Was going to point out the same thing. I guess the person that wrote that blurb didn't watch the show very closely.
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Let's forget about Jared's comment for a minute (and I agree with him by the way) and let's talk about the FTW about him this week which is him in a tank top and shorts! Wow!
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Some celebrities should've just kept quiet about Phillip Seymour Hoffman's death - this is FTW. Yeah, let's celebrate a drug addict with no self-control and shame those who make fun of his stupid death. Get real, turds.
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FTW: "Kissing is romantic" followed by a kiss that actually is romantic. Kudos to Sheldon! Kudos to Amy! And Kudos to The Big Bang Theory!

This must have been the most romantic moment on TV since Jaime Lannister jumped into a bear pit for Brienne in Game of Thrones.

Here's to all the awkward-nerd gals that inspire the most amazing grand gestures!
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FTW: Amazon's Mozart in the Jungle. Loved it.
Also, obviously puppies!
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FTW: US X-Factor got canceled!

By the way, Jared is 100% right. Hoffman's death is no tragedy. He was a human being who made mistakes (like any other) and he ended on the wrong side which cost him his life. That's sad, and it's stupid. Real life is hard, TV.com. It's not all a big TV show.
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Tragedy: a very bad event that causes great sadness and often involves someone's death. (Merriam-Webster)

That about sums this whole thing up, so yeah it is a tragedy.
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We've removed the nonsense that followed this back and forth. Please stay on topic and play nice.
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A very bad event: Someone died overdosing on drugs. There you go. You can also add the way you responded to my post. It's a tragedy that you couldn't find a better way to respond.

As for the definition of a prick: It's interesting that you decided define it by acting like one..

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'A very bad event: Someone died overdosing on drugs.'
Wait, did you get that from Merriam-Webster too? Smh.
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Banshee was amazing this week. Best episode on TV, period.

the end of HIMYM was pretty cool, not at all jammed down our throat

you're a bunch of hypocrites about Seymour-Hoffman overdose

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IT'S NOT LE PONT NEUF YOU IGNORANT MORON

God, you're a TERRIBLE writer...

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"A note to all TV writers: Please believe your viewers are smart enough to understand a metaphor without actually bashing them over the head with it."

To HIMYM writers's defense, a lot of viewers (including the reviewer and commenters on tv.com) did not get that Robin did not actually go walking on the beach with her ex on the night before her wedding. Yet the whole point of Marshall's ghosts story and that silly balloon scene was so we understand it was all in Ted's mind.
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I'm pretty sure they DID go on a walk to look for Barney. The only part of the episode that was in Ted's mind was when Robin floated away, when in reality they just let each other's hand go and then probably walked back. I don't see any indication that the whole thing was imagined, but of course I could be wrong.
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It was a very sloppily-constructed episode, the indication that Robin is imaginary is taken from the inclusion of Marshall's mental ghosts in the B-plot, leaving the visual metaphor of the balloon floating up to be confused with the visual metaphor of the mental ghosts being ethereal. It was very, very clumsy on the writers' and/or director's part.

That said, you are correct, they were together and the floating away was the only part that was in Ted's mind.
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"That said, you are correct, they were together and the floating away was the only part that was in Ted's mind."
Right after Robin floats away her shoes are no longer on the sand. Why, if not because they were never here?
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It's a poorly-constructed visual metaphor. Also, if you look, during the earlier scenes, Robin isn't even wearing shoes, she's holding them.
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I reall enjoy the fact that a show that never really had that much depth, is being so overly analyzed.
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What confused people was the fact that after the last commercial break Ted and Robin were both sitting on the beach again after he let her go. This was only to backpedal to before he let her go to deliver that eye rolling "cute" joke that he could of kissed her before to end the show on a positive note. The problem is due to lousy thinking on the showrunner/director's part is that the scene was next to the end and people mistaked that scene for being after the balloon instead of before. I mean who flashbacks a few minutes and doesn't make any attempt to make it clear? Instead they should of ended it with something stupid like Marshal and ghost Lileys proposing to get freaky, and forgetting that his ghost dad is in the room. They could have made that "cute" joke earlier and THAT WOULD HAVE PREVENTED ALL CONFUSION. Thank god this show is about to end. Many episodes lately are just hard to watch.
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I don't have a problem with saying a star's death is a tragedy. It is, there's a body of work that is lost due to the addiction. (The same can be said for civilians.) What I have a problem with is the deification that comes afterwards. Things like Jack Klugman being left off the in memoriam on the Emmys last year for a special spot for Cory Monteith who had no body of work and could barely act. Whitney Houston received similar treatment at the Grammys - although, at least she could sing.
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Awards shows are about ratings. They chose Cory Monteith over others because they wanted to attract a younger demographic. They aren't interested in doing the 'right' thing, just making money. Cory's death was still a tragedy though.
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For the first time I have to say you actually pissed the heck out of me.

Jared is 100% right and you are 100% wrong.

If you want young impressionable followers to get something right, inform them of the dangers of drugs. This wasn't an accident, this wasn't a murder, this wasn't a no fault thing.

Yes, the man left a family and I sympathize with their grief, as did Jared who flat out said any death is sad.

But with all due respect, you want people to stop dying from such things? Start showing the truth to kids about drugs. Show them that a person can be an amazing actor regardless of drugs and that drugs are what killed his talent and they should avoid it.

Giving him some stupid hero worshiping postmortem simply shows kids everywhere that you can do all the drugs you want, worst case scenario you just die and get remembered as a legend.

Sorry TV.com staff, your hypocrisy is unbelivable.
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Jared was right about Hoffman's death being senseless and stupid. He was wrong to think that it was a good idea to tweet that so soon after his death. He was very wrong when he said that it's not a tragedy.

So no, he certainly wasn't 100% right.
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Indeed. It is tragedy when someone brings about their own downfall.
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"But with all due respect, you want people to stop dying from such things? Start showing the truth to kids about drugs. Show them that a person can be an amazing actor regardless of drugs and that drugs are what killed his talent and they should avoid it."

Problem with what you've said here: most kids are stupid and believe they are invulnerable. They think, "That won't happen to me" and so on. It's like that show Scared Straight where they take teenagers into a prison to scare the hell out of them? Well, some still became criminals! Teenagers are like alcoholics...most of them don't think they have a problem until it's usually too late.
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I somewhat (not completely though) agree with you. People with chemical dependancies and those with mental disorders even more so should be given some leeway, but not completely be absolved from all the descisions they make. Alcoholism and drug adiction is the only disease that I can think of that someone can choose to have. If someone didn't know they had a problem, or is trying hard to deal with it is one thing, but to consistantly over and over go to rehab, shirk responsibilities and any wrongdoings should not condone sympathy.
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Sorry Jason but you have no idea of how psychology of addiction works.. and this "holier than thou" attitude is annoying to say the least.. every single person knows about the dangers of drugs.. not a single drug addict has began or continued using because they were mistaken about the results.. we live in an information age.. if the didactic and condemning/agressive approach has worked, we wouldn't have had any addicts, and especially nicotine consumption would have been eradicated.. yet, still many people smoke, or use drugs, or abuse other things.. as I have read in a superb article written about the issue: we all are people of habits, and any habit can turn into an addiction.. some addictions are less dangerous than others.. so because an adrenaline addict was given an opportunity to use his addiction as a sport (extremes sports they are called, for a reason) aren't we allowed to mourn his death, and that we should be warning youth about dangers of such sports? there are many obese actors and actresses, that we adore, yet they are addicted to food.. if they die of a heart attack, are we supposed to condemn their life styles and make this a tool for teaching a lesson to young generations? a heavy drinking artists might die of liver cancer, or maybe fall from the stairs of their homes.. would it be an accident/fate or would it be the result of their careless actions? where do we draw the line? we are human beings, with our weaknesses, with our flaws, with our ups and downs.. to act as if we are all supposed to be perfect, is where the actual hypocrisy is.. and that really is unbelivable..

(and one last not: he is not given hero worshipping postmortem because he is a drug addict.. drug addiction is not the single defining characteristic of PSH.. he is appreciated because he was a genious, great actor.. there is absolutely not correlation between his drug addiction and people's appreciation of his work (unless that creativity is a result of drugs of course, but that is a whole another discussion).. so, looking at this, if someone is taking out a lesson as "you can do all the drugs you want, worst case scenario you just die and get remembered as a legend" without actually doing anything legendary, then they might as well die very soon as a result of utter stupidity and we can actually do nothing about it..)
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I read the comments on how "Nina should have won", on other top chef discusion threads. Most of the viewers and some of the guest judges even forget that this is top chef, not chef idol. Why should it matter that Nina would be the better ambasador? I like Nina, but she wasn't always as pleasant as she was on the finale. I can't count how many times she told someone to "suck a dick." I mean who cares though, a great chef doesn't equate a good person. It is supposed to be judged fresh on week to week basis on what the chefs put on the table. As a viewer you can't tell what they put on the table. Although Tom was pushy, Gale wasn't backing down either. 90% of the time, chefs do better on their second sevice and the judges numbers were stacked against Nick's with three judges on his first and two on his second. I don't blame the juges who were on his second service to want equal say, otherwise they can have one complete sevice for one contestant, then the other and alquot time. I don't know who really "should" have won, but neither does any other viewer.
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how i met your mother has simply been going on for to long.
many british comedy's keep their amount of episodes limited so they can focus on making good episodes while american sitcoms like to beat a death horse for obscenely long.
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This is true, but the British are taking it too far in the other direction.

Fawlty Towers, 12 episodes in 5 years.
The young ones, 12 episodes in 2.5 years.
The IT crowd, 24 episodes in 5 years.

Makes me wonder if people don't get paid to make TV in the UK. Oh, look at that, Wikipedia says that John Cleese got 6000 pounds for 43 weeks of work. Apparently they do get paid.
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living in belgium i had to wait until those shows were shown on either a belgian or dutch channel with subtitles and it usually took far longer for those shows to reach our shores in those times from what i remember(its been quite a while )
and by the time those shows where aired around here they did it on a weekly basis.
so i never had to suffer those long waiting times.

i personally think that british actors see their shows as a project they want to try out.
they do a few episodes,move on to something else and when they really feel like it they'll dig up an old project later on.
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I doubt any hardcore fan should be accused of removing "Ben and Leslie's love lock". Locks on the Pont-neuf are regularly taken off by agents from the city of Paris for security reasons. Its a pedestrian bridge, not meant to support the weight of hundreds of locks. Plus they are reaaaaally ugly.
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I think the authorities would have cut the lock, not the fence.
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FTW: Dark Stiles on Teen Wolf and Felicity telling Oliver the truth about his mother on Arrow.
WTF: Flying Robin and The Bachelor just for existing
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