FTW vs. WTF: The TV Week in Review (July 13)

Between the border-town murders in The Bridge, the women's-prison shower scenes in Orange Is the New Black, and that guy from 90210 chainsawing his way out of a shark's tummy in Sharknado, this was an unusually great week of television! But between a teenage electrical party in Under the Dome, no one dying in Siberia, and the typical summer drought, it was a typical terrible week of television! Which week of television will win—the good or the bad? Find out in another episode of FTW vs. WTF!




FX successfully crosses The Bridge

The network's take on Danish/Swedish series Broen/Bron steadily established character, tone, and a juicy plot at the careful pace of someone recently recovering from a vasectomy. Demián Bichir and Diane Kruger show promise in this classic story of two mismatched police detectives from opposite sides of the Juarez border who just might have a shot at nabbing a serial murderer... if they don't kill each other first. There's a lot to this world, though we wouldn't mind if Kruger toned down her take on Asperger's syndrome un poquito.



Oh no! Joffrey is going to kill another Direwolf pup! Oh, wait. No he isn't.

Click the embedded Vine video to play it and see one of TV's most-hated characters getting kisses from a cuddly baby dog.



Teen Wolf keeps it casual when it comes to gay

True Blood notwithstanding, supernatural serials have mostly been gayer in tone than in practice (ahem, The Vampire Diaries). But from the beginning, Teen Wolf's been very cavalier in both regards, even seeing fit to include a popular gay jock character in Danny and a Season 2 action sequence set at a gay dance club. This week the show's gay no-big-dealness reached a new level when Danny had a shirtless-huggin' scene with Ethan, half of the twin-Voltron werewolf introduced as one of this season's villains. But rather than playing the moment as a joke or anything resembling sensationalism, Teen Wolf gave us a sweet and meaningful moment between two lesser characters, and its very casualness was downright important if we're looking at how gay couples have been portrayed in the past. This wasn't aggressively awkward like Kurt and Blaine's love scene on Glee, nor was it vapidly titillating like something on Queer as Folk. Nope, Teen Wolf's first all-male make-out scene was just as no big deal as the other shirtless hugs we've seen on this show, and in that way it was kind of a big deal.



Claudia Donovan being all HBIC in Warehouse 13's Season 4 finale


Just ignore the obvious green screen, plz. 



Orange Is the New Black is the new Netflix success story

Turns out that Netflix didn't need to spend $100 million dollars, hire high-profile Oscar nominee directors, or make another White Guy Anti-Hero show to make an impact. Orange Is the New Black shows more promise in its early episodes than any of the company's other originals to date. 



#Sharknado attacked the internet, but thankfully we survived


As with many of Syfy's feature "films," Sharknado was generally terrible and didn't make much sense. But that doesn't mean it wasn't fun! Because flying sharks! And also some wonderfully entertaining bad CGI and a shark getting cut in half lengthwise with a chainsaw (between that and Under the Dome's cow slice, 2013 is apparently the year of the bloodily bisected animal). And it's not every day that something starring Tara Reid trends on Twitter (even though way fewer people watched than the online chatter would have you believe). Don't worry if you missed it, though: Price was kind enough to photo-recap the carnage for you.



Graceland's "O-Mouth"

Grab your prozac, kids. Mike still hasn't made any progress investigating his mentor, and his handlers are getting grumpy. Charlie's favorite CI OD'd on heroin and inspired her to ride that pony herself. It's like all that pent-up darkness that USA has been hoarding can no longer be contained by a four-bedroom McMansion housing a pile of dead cats and eight storage units full of mildewed betamax tapes and needs to be set free. FREE. (And that's awesome.)



Beware the Batman has lots of promise

We all miss Young Justice and Green Lantern: The Animated Series, but Beware the Batman seems primed to be a fine successor in the DC Nation block. Sure, the show's interpretation of Alfred may take some getting used to, but the series premiere made good (and kid-friendly) use of Professor Pyg and Mr. Toad, featured solid action, and while we may not like the CGI all that much, it at least looks far better than the paper doll-esque renderings on Disney XD's Avengers Assemble. We hereby eat the WTF crow about the sizzle reel from a few weeks ago.



NBC's Hollywood Game Night... not as bad as we thought!

While the week-to-week quality of the show will hinge entirely on the celebrity guests, Hollywood Game Night turned out to be a delightful way to spend an hour watching famous folks play ridiculous games (with the dullest possible non-celebrity contestants, if the first episode is any indication). Sample challenges: Identify the salty snack (mmm...product placement), or guess the celebrity subject of a portrait painted by an 8-year-old, while Jane Lynch mugs to the teleprompter (she's a bit better when she's improvising). Between the loose atmosphere and the booze (there needs to be more booze), the program recalls TV's old panel shows, when celebrities were harder-up for cash and had a grand time goofing off while getting paid for it.





Imagine Entertainment in talks to do More Arrested Development

Rad or bad? Brian Grazer spilled the (not-so-secret) beans during an interview with Bloomberg Television about how psyched Netflix is to possibly tell more Bluth tales, even though the heralded return of comedy's best dysfunctional fam was met with mixed reactions. Is this a savvy showbiz trick, good news, or more wringing of a franchise that should have stayed buried in [insert Arrested Development pun here]?



Batshit-crazy Hal on Falling Skies

Drew Roy's performance was pants-wettingly unnerving and disconcerting in a great way. However, the storyline itself has been alternating between "snoozefest" and "creepy date rape-awareness ad" all season.



Why are we still watching Whodunnit? Oh, that's right: exploding golf carts, "death central station," and murder by a cougar!

Whodunnit remains mind-numbingly stupid, and audiences still lack the time to put together clues, let alone figure out which of the contestants in the house is "the killer," but damned if the show's back-and-forth of "alliances," contestants attempting to sound like TV police lab technicians, and ridiculous deaths with their "real crime" reenactment aesthetics are just too funny in their awfulness.





This new line of The Walking Dead wear for ladies

"Girl Crush"? Michonne would cut your damn head off if she saw you wearing that. More info here. 



Hell on Wheels's Season 3 poster offers zero details

To celebrate its move to Saturdays (when most of us Western fans are coincidentally at home, eschewing the modern trappings of a "social life"), AMC released this promotional poster of rabble-rouser Cullen Bohannon galloping toward his two-hour August 10 premiere. The words "Outlaw in Charge" adorn the artwork, with the protagonist's head looking VERY Photoshopped. Hmm, guess this season's about Bohannon... uh, on a horse. A fast one! Plus guns, and aiming. No hats, though!



Miami bulldozes Burn Notice

Sorry Westen! As the series comes to a close, Miami Commission Chairman Marc Sarnoff is leading a plan to destroy the waterfront production headquarters of the USA show in favor of a lovely park. No word on whether he plans to demolish the site via traditional means, or simply use a cotton candy machine full of Pop Rocks and electrified trash juice. Either way, we hope Bruce Campbell's there in a Hawaiian shirt, saying "I'm not so sure about this, Marc!"



MTV redesigns the Moonman statuette

The iconic trophy that once meant something has been given a makeover courtesy of some "internationally famous and provocateur" named KAWS. Now the Moonman, who planted a flag on the MOON and represented a shift in how television and music intersect, has a skull and crossbones for a head because... ummm...



Siberia loses a contestant, but only because he quit

Okay, let us get this straight: There's a fake reality show about monsters in the Siberian forest, and it made it through an entire episode without killing anyone? Instead, a contestant leaves the FAKE reality show on his own accord because he's scared? George the Accountant, don't be such a pussy and run home to your fake family. Run into the woods and get yourself killed for our entertainment. Sheesh. 


What's on *YOUR* list of TV loves and hates this week?

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I guess it would get kinda boring if you keep putting Under the Dome in the WTF section each week.
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Gay hunk scenes? One less reason to watch Teen Wolf. Jack Gleason actually looked like a nice guy with the puppy. I'm start to think all of his Joffrey nastiness is actually good acting...
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Gay hunk scenes on Teen Wolf?! One MORE reason to watch this show!
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Oh, well, whatever floats your boat...
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FYI - not everyone is straight. In fact millions of us are not.
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"Turns out that Netflix didn't need to spend $100 million dollars, hire high-profile Oscar nominee directors, or make another White Guy Anti-Hero show to make an impact."

I wish the success (and brilliance) of OITNB is seen as proof that no network needs to spend $100 million dollars, hire high profile Oscar nominee directors or make another White Guy Anti Hero show to make an impact. Especially the White Guy Anti Hero one.
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i agree about the Dead Wear For Lades line. I've been wanting girl clothes for TWD for years, but surely they could have come up with better stuff that THAT....with that being said, i unfortunately know the fan girl in me will not allow me to pass up that Daryl Dixon shirt...i'll hate myself as i hit 'buy' but it's Daryl MF Dixon sooo....(hangs head in shame)
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WTF: The death of Cory Monteith. Just awful. So so sad...
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I totally agree with FTW: Graceland (finally! One of the BEST new summer shows!), Warehouse 13 (the season finale was so great :( about fifth and final season!) and Teen Wolf (weird episode but interesting nonetheless!). The other TV shows: Falling skies; I really like Drew Roy because not only is he a hottie but he has some real nice acting skills, good career choice for him ;) I'm sad about Burn Notice ending this year (i think?) definitely going to miss the show; but they had a good run! Unlike Warehouse 13 and Nikita, they DON'T have to finish with six-eps. finales esp. for such young shows (Nikita and Warehouse 13!); I mean I'm sad about Nikita but it's going to be hard for them to keep extending the storyline so I've made my peace with that...but Warehouse 13? Ughh.... :( Anyway let's hope for rockin' final seasons!
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I didn't even notice that it was a skull and crossbones head on the new moon man. Looks like the head of a girl with pigtails LOL. "WTF" indeed.

Also, why do they even do the MTV awards? Does MTV even show music videos? Seems like a waste of money *shrugs*
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I am starting to grow very fond of Jack Gleeson as an actor. He gives good interviews. He seems to be having a lot of fun with a portrayal od someone so beyond gruesome - and he didn't have to. He could just be one of those annoying brooding kids that can't shake off their one-role stigma.
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I couldn't make it through the pilot of The Bridge. I actually have Aspergers and if I have to sit through another depiction of AS as "extreme rudeness syndrome" I will scream and toss my beloved TV out the window. That, and the myth that we're incapable of feeling or expressing empathy, is why I will not be watching The Bridge and if you have the slightest interest in a nuanced and accurate portrayal of Aspergers you'll skip it too.
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this is nothing more than just a personal vent: MTV's lazy cropped logo irritates me to no end. I'm perfectly fine with updating or flat-out changing it (it's something to be expected on occasion) but simply slashing off the bottom & then calling it 'done' just irritates the lime green snot outta me

/vent
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FTW: The entire episode of last weeks Teen Wolf, of course I loved how they portrayed Danny/Ethan, and it once again proves how Teen Wolf portrays homosexuality more realistically than any other show on television, but I also loved the last scene between Stiles and Scott, it was an all around great episode.

FTW: TV.com communities, to put it lightly I'm addicted.

WTF: Cory Montieth's death, I have never been a Glee fan, but I am truly sad. My thoughts are with his family and friends.

FTW: More Arrested Development, but may turn into a WTF, if they can't get the cast altogether like the first three seasons.




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AD season 4 was amazing, that belongs in FTW all day.
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The fact that they're making more Arrested Development is a HUGE FTW for me. To put it mildly, season 4 filled the void that Community season 4 left in my TV-loving soul, with extreme ease. While I do hope that, if there is a season 5, they'll be able to get the ensemble together for more episodes, I'll be ecstatic about the series getting another season. They can't end the series the way the did, they NEED another season, at least. But I'd much prefer #sixseasons and a movie.

I haven't seen Orange is the New Black, and I was a bit unsure after the trailer (despite some parts that looked good), but I am interested in seeing it, especially after the great reception it seems to be getting. I don't want to get my hopes up too high though. I honestly don't expect it to exceed my love for House of Cards (though I'd be happy to be proven wrong), but if it's even close to that level, then I'd be happy.
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*thinking of making

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"Miami bulldozes Burn Notice"--I hope the lovely park at least contains the Maria--pronounced, Madia--La Guearta memorial bench...
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FTW, the second episode of Ray Donovan which shored up the pilot rather nicely. I wasn't sure after episode one, but I'm all-in now--great bounce back.
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I was blown away by this week's Graceland! The cliffhanger was great and I was like "what??? that's it??? come on!!!" can't wait for next week :)
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WTF: The new features at tv.com enable users to run scripts that try to open popup windows for ads over and over again. See the post by tvpchd on this page: http://www.tv.com/news/what-to-watch-this-weekend-the-season-2-premieres-of-comedy-bang-bang-and-the-newsroom-and-a-marathon-of-rectify-season-1-137358200630/.

tv.com, please delete that post and fix the security hole in your system.
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Spamnado is over, I hope...
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please don't make another season of Arrested Development. The last one was terrible!
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It wasn't so much terrible as it did affirm the statement, "You can't go home, again." You really can't unless you do what JJ Abrams did with Star Trek...
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perfectly agree about Teen Wolf!
Glee -just to mention the show that makes of its queerness a flag- is a bit hypocritical for what concerns gay relationships... it creates a big fuss about it and the various milestones (first kiss, first sex, etc.), but it doesn't dare to show the gay couples kissing as normal expression of affections like all the straight couples do.
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Also, now shows feel that that a gay character is mandatory like the daughter in the new Two and a Half Men season. It's becoming a fashion statement which is sad rather than being a fact of life, as it should be.
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I think it's better that they put gay characters in shows (because you know, gay people exist!), than ignoring their existence completely!
Of course a gay character should have some characterization other than "that's the gay character of the show"
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That's what I was saying. I am sorry if you thought otherwise.
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Gay folks are very trendy these days in an effort to repair the the previous stereotypical bias. Most of it is tastefully done and it will become common place soon, and even the right-wing wackos and holy-rolling Bible-thumpers will have to accept it as fact of life...
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Amen to that.
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BIGGEST WTF of the week: Cory Monteith's death. Scratch that; biggest WTF of the MONTH. This is truly sad. I love Glee. I feel so sad for Lea and his entire family.
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Just awful. So sad...
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Couldnt agree with you more! It came as a real shock!
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Is Cory from Glee dead or is my local news website being idiotic again?
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He died
http://www.thewrap.com/tv/article/glee-star-cory-monteith-dead-31-102996
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thanks for clearing it up
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I just don't understand the new Moonman design. why was that needed? why a skull and crossbones for a head (although it is kind of hard to tell when u first see it). idk why they have to change something that I think most would consider to be iconic for MTV. but I guess the 13 yr olds need something "cooler" ?? eh? All I can say is that the new design looks stupid and really wasn't needed
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I really have no clue why I ranted about this seeing that I haven't paid any attention to MTV in years
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I enjoyed Hollywood Game Night too. Reminds me of Never Mind The Buzzcocks (admittedly terrible if you don't know any of the guests) and other such British panel shows. It would be interesting if those kinds of shows caught on in America now, but I'm not sure American celebs are clever/desperate enough to pull it off as a genre in the long-term.
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Whose line is it anyway returns this week on the CW - probably worth watching
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What's up regarding the homophobic statement about Michonne and the "Girl Crush"? Kinda strange coming from tv.com, since you've got gay people amongst your staff (BTW, I'm not gay, I just happen to be sick of homophobia).
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It didn't say Michonne was scared of gays (or hated them), so what makes it homophobic? Or are we changing what words mean?
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i think you're fishing for something to be homophobic. I agreed with the statement of Michonne probably hating the shirt, not because it's homophobic, but because she's a badass zombie killer who doesn't seem like the type to where something so feminine-hipster
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I don't think the statement was meant to be homophobic -- I think he's just indicating the slogan is kind of lame.
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Good job Teen Wolf!!! Its just a shame it stands out so much as the minority in the television world.
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The Bridge was one of the most boring hours of television I've ever watched. And, yes, I know the premier was an hour and a half. Also, when I say "watched", I basically mean "suffered through".
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I just realized that the Hell on Wheels poster said a TWO HOUR PREMIERE!! THAT HAS TO BE FTW!
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HOH that Saturday and Breaking Bad the next day!! I don't think I'm leaving my house that weekend.
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I haven't had a chance to watch Orange is the New Black yet but I'm very excited about it. Things I'd add to the list:

FTW: The moment in Wilfred this week where Wilfred shows his room full of putrid things and there was a Maroon 5 poster on the wall. I laughed a lot at that. Kristen Schaal was also okay, pity the show is still inconsistent.

FTW: The tv.com Communities. I'm sorta addicted to them. It's all about getting as high on the leaderboard as you can. I'm spending way too much time reading all the awesome posts.
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WTF: The media circus of the Zimmerman trial, and the disregard for every other major news story in the world.

WTF: The media circus around Edward Snowden and the attack the messenger approach taken by most every major network, and the disregard for the actual message of massive domestic spying.
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WTF of the decade, Zimmerman is supposed to be innocent of all charges.
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Can somebody please explain to me the meaning of FTW and WTF, i am new and my mother language is not english :)
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I thought FTW meant "Fuck the World" (as in this is so amazing that it says fuck the world to anyone who doesn't think it is awesome").
Apparently I am using the biker version of FTW according to the urban dictionary and I'm not a biker (but I love SOA).

For the Win just sounds LAME and I prefer my version of FTW. Please read all my FTWs as "fuck the world".

Welcome to TV.Com and please recommend some shows!! I love learning about non-American shows and have found some amazing shows through the users on this site.
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Well vicky, first thanx for helping me understand what FTW and WTF means, secondly for now i am watching: Dexter, SOA, Breaking Bad, Supernatural, Game of Thrones, Walking dead etc...
I am a tv freak i watched so amny tv shows just cant remember all of them: Stargate Sg1,Stargate Atlantis, Stargate Universe, Star Trek DS9,Enterprise, TOS, Next generation, X files,Prison Break and so many. I mostly like Sci-fi, Battlestar Galactica and Lost are the best series i have seen. But I love every tv show ;)
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I agree that "for the win" sounds lame, and that "fuck the world" sounds more badass. But "fuck the world" may not be the best headline for a section about things that are supposed to be good.

For the win: The title of this week's episode of True Blood is Fuck the pain away.

Fuck the world: The USA is spying on everyone. (OK, this isn't from this week, but it was the best recent example of a "fuck the world" I could think of).
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Welcome Bernard. FTW: For the Win (or what this site considers to be the better tv related news of the week) WTF: What the Fuck (what the site considers the worst tv related stuff to happen this week). However English not being your native language will not do anything to explain the misguided logic that goes into compiling the lists.

If I may ask, what is your first language, and can you recommend any shows that are in it?! Thanks!
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I thought FTW meant Fuck The World (as in "fuck the world this is fucking amazing")? Isn't that what FTW usually means? All these years I've been thinking FTW meant FUCK THE WORLD!?!? WTF? lol
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I think that once upon a time you may have been right, and then the internet came along. In my internet/gaming experience it has always been used as For The Win. It really comes down to context I suppose.
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"once upon a time" thanks for making me feel old
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My mind will still interpret it as Fuck the World sine my mind is "badass"~LOL;-)

"which of these things don't belong" was totally FTW!

FTW: Sesame Street (back in the day when FTW wasn't a boring abbreviation)
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@ vicki's comment below this because of more bad site design

I think from the addition of HoW to the WTF, and Sharknado to the FTW it is lear nobody learned the 'what doesn't belong' lesson
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fuck the world and what the fuck go together--didn't anyone learn anything from Sesame Street's which of these things doesn't belong segment they had (at least they had it when I was a kid). For the Win sounds lame whereas Fuck the World sounds badass! Yes, I have a potty mouth;-)
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FTW = For-the-win (Great Stuff!)
WTF = What-the-f*@k (WHY?!! WHY TV WHY!?!?)
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@Vicki--I know your fucking password--naner naner ;-)
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use google. FTW: For The Win. WTF: What The F**k
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thanx everybody, and kmrao i used google, but i just couldn't believe the website like tv.com uses the fuck word ;)
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Hell on Wheels poster offers zero details? Well 'Outlaw In Charge' is a pretty damn big detail considering what happened at the end of Season 2. And a poster made the wtf, but the actual show... one of the best on television never makes the FTW. You guys never stop amazing me.
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that poster had critical information that was missed by this site (bet you are surprised they missed something):
TWO HOUR PREMIERE!!!!!!
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The poster has very IMPORTANT information that this site missed~~~~~~~~
a TWO HOUR PREMIERE!!! That has to be FTW!
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And the date and time of premiere
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Apparently date/time and duration isn't enough to get off the WTF list (it's like it is automatically found guilty then has to prove itself innocent)!

IF IT IS LEAKED EARLY THEN CAN someone please let us know;-)
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@GC whoever complained about the poster to get it on the WTF list already is on my WTF list!
Info from poster:
1. Outlaw In Charge
2. date
3. time
4. two hour premiere
what more is needed? blinking christmas lights?
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If it was leaked early, then the person who posted a rough cut poster AND THEN COMPLAINED ABOUT IT, deserves to be on the WTF list instead
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I loved the gay scene on Teen Wolf. It's so refreshing to see a television show not make a big deal out it's gay characters. It seems to me that alot of shows like to either parade around their homosexuals like "look at us, aren't we sooooo cool to include a gay character or even gay couple?!". Or they feel the need to walk the audience through the gayness, holding their hand, reassuring their viewers that gay people do in fact exist. So yeah, it's great to see Teen Wolf play it cool and not make it a big deal. And I really hope other shows will take note.

Oh and while I'm on the subject of LGBTs in tv. A WTF to Under the Dome for making an unusually high amount of references to the lesbian couple this past week. Like, we get it, there's a same sex couple raising a teenage daughter. You don't need to keep reminding us like 4 times in a single episode!
But then again, Under the Dome does keep on reminding us who the DJ is, or who the intrepid reporter happens to be, or who's the resident lunatic. So maybe the entire show is a WTF.

Why is the MTV Moonman a pirate? Why not an alien? At least keep it space themed if they must change it.

And lol to that Hell on Wheels photoshop, his torso's too short, his arms are just wrong and his head looks a little big. The horse and legs look fine though, so I'm assuming that's the only real part of the picture.
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The Horse is the only faked part of that photo
Cullen Bohannon is actually terribly proportioned ;-)
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Lol :)
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WTF - I'm really enjoying Whodunnit? and I feel almost guilty about it. *facepalm*
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okay, but what's the point?
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What's the point of what? Whodunnit? What's the point of any show? To entertain. And I am being thoroughly entertained by this show. I can't explain it, but it's sucked me in.
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Sorry,no. what the point of a fake reality show in which nobody is competing really for the prize money and all is scripted ahead in advance.The fake deaths are not really very well acted and the plots are not well conceived. I am glad for you that you enjoy it and I am watching, so I have to be enjoying it at some level. My point really is that the only thing that made any sense behind all thebitching and nastiness was that they all wanted the money. Here none will be getting that. Also, provided they find the killer,I think it's one of the maids at this time, how can they possibly arrest him or her?
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Well, it is a gameshow, and there is money involved unless I'm mistaken. On the audition call sheet, that's what it said anyway, and the cast interviews of the deceased at the end of every episode back this up when they say they wish they could have stuck around to "play longer." So, I'm pretty sure one of the contestants is a paid actor to play the part of the Killer while the rest of the people are just random contestants who are being fed lines from time to time and being told how to react to certain situations.

But their guessing game - the game of "Clue", if you will - is actually part of the gameshow, and whether they guess correctly or fail determines on who "dies" and who gets to play longer with the chance of winning the money. Then, if they guess badly, they get pulled aside by the producers and get told that they get to act out their death scene. Since most reality show contestants are aspiring actors, it's not the big of a deal, and them being "good" or "bad" actors have nothing to do with it.
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that moonman lost what it represented so long ago that I find myself not caring. the only thing upsetting is thinking about the MTV we lost.
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I think it moved to VH1 unless they don't show music videos anymore....
MTV use to be great but now it's mainly cheese reality shows (it has 1 or 2 decent fiction shows but I thought the M stood for Music).
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FTW: The Bridge
FTW: Graceland being amazing.
FTW: Orange is the new black.
FTW: Teen Wolf (and homosexuality not being a big deal. THANK YOU FOR THAT!)

FTWTF: The awesomeness in sarcastic tweets created by Sharknado. But... Sharknado -___-

WTF: Cote de Pablo leaving NCIS
WTF: Under The Dome being disappointing.
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I thought Hollywood Game Night was going to be terrible but then I saw that Kristen Bell, Alyson Hannigan and Matthew Perry were going to be on this one so I watched. I was really good at most of the games except charades because I know way more about snacks and TV then Tom Cruise/Hanks movies. I liked everything except Jane Lynch. So obnoxious.
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Interesting. I didn't know "The Bridge" was a remake. Normally I prefer to watch the original. Recently I watched Äkta Människor and to me it was perfect the way it was, so I wouldn't need a remake.

But as for Bron/Broen, come on, let's face it, there isn't any real difference between Denmark and Sweden, right? Just kidding of course. But obviously most people know very little of these two cultures to observe any significant cultural differences, and the differences between Mexico and the USA must be more contrasting, and better known outside Europe.

But well, I might check the original one day.
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I had myself a Bron marathon yesterday and saw the whole ten episodes at one go. My impression is that Swedes think that Danmark is the poor cousin; the one you invite at Christmas once a year and give him or her your hand-me-outs. A very faint arrogance and bluntness, but there anyway. Other than that, I really loved it but was surprised at how certain aspects were close to that movie Untraceable but not credited in that movie.
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Which movie was it close to you mean? Well Sweden is the biggest country of the Nordic countries but not the richest anymore since Norway found their oil ;) Many swedes actually talk about Denmark with envy and consider them more "continental" than Sweden. The alcohol rules are very different for example.

When it comes to arrogance I (and many who had to work with them) wouuld rather contribute that to the danes. They are very much a nation of negotiators and often very diffiult to deal with. The historical explanation for that is that they have very few natural resources so their income had to come from making good business.

When the bridge in question was built there were some quite tough negotiations and in the end the danes managed to get the swedes to pay for parts of the bridge that were entirely on the danish side. :)

Of course Sweden has generally been more PC than Denmark in many respects, but all that being said the nordic countries generally respect each other a lot, and there is no comparison to US and Mexico.

Btw I read that the pilot for the remake was directed by Gerardo Naranjo who made the masterpiece Miss Bala two years ago. Although the greatness of that film mostly derived from the hungarian cinematographer Matyas Erdelyi.
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The movie:Untraceable. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Untraceable‎
You are Scandinavian, so you are obviously right and I am wrong, but I was giving just my impression by the way they talk to one another and the tone of their voices. Then again, this a as an unusual detective couple, and they don't necessarily reflect the people.But beyond the detectives, the way each of them deal with their own compatriots is surprising. I'll have to talk to one of my best friends who is Swede about that, strangely I forgot to ask him.
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Sadly, my friend just posted on FB that his father passed away tonight, so there will be no discussion on Bron with him for a while.
I agree that The Killing is superior because of Sarah Lund and was quite angry by the way they killed her on season three of the original series.
I have been reading a lot of Scandinavian thrillers lately, finished the first Lars Kepler three novels the other day and have started Helen tursten's "Torso" which seems to be very good.
If you want to talk about drunk people, the Russians will win any time any place.:-) and you're certainly not boring me at all.:-) though I am very sad sometimes that the modern world has caught up with the State-Providence which made me and many others dream about a decade or so ago. But no matter what minor issues that you might have, I still envy you to no end.
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Sorry I didn't read your post carefully. You wrote Untraceable the first time. When it comes to the detectives keep in mind that even her swedish colleagues finde her strange (as do everyone)

The sentiment you talked about might more be expressed in Lars Triers Riget where the swedish doctor played by Ernst Hugo Järegård openly mocks Denmark.:)

If you have a swedish friend I guess you are aware of our alcohol laws where it is forbidden to buy alcohol in any shop except the special ones owned by the state who are closed on sundays, and usually close at Three o clock on saturday :)

There Denmark is very different ( Finland has the same rules as we have in Sweden) and many swedish people find the danish view relaxed and refreshing, where as many danes claim that swedes go over there just to get drunk :)

Seriously though I would say that we are all good neighbours and have much more things in common than not.

Sorry if I am writing boring essays here :))

As I stated previously I didn't like the series at all and prefer, for example Forbrydelsen (The Killing) which in my mind has a more interesting female character in Sarah Lund. Even that show was co-produced by swedish television :)
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In Broen, the cultural difference aspect is much less played than in The Bridge, which makes it a very different show than The Bridge. Equally good though, I strongly recommend watching it.
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There are pretty big differences between Sweden and Denmark, which also became an issue on the set. Swedes are more prone to collaboration and discussing things, instead of being told what to do by some boss. That is very different in Denmark and even more so in Finland.

It might be the swedes who are a bit extreme in this regard though. Stellan Skarsgård mention that there were lots of tension on the set of the remake of The girl with the dragon tatoo, where the americans expected people do to what they were told to do, instead of questioning everything. He said he tried to act as a mediator on more than a few occasions.
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It's like everyday I come to this site and learn something new about the differences between Scandinavian countries. How awesome is this? I should go and rewatch Riget to celebrate.
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As Tamaabi points out above the differences in the original between the policemen are less cultural than due to her diagnosis. Though it is never spelled out what she suffers from even the Swedish colleagues call her weird. In my mind the presentation of her was very heavy-handed and clumsily done. Everything the character did was the template behaviour for "diagnosis". If it was because of bad writing or overacting I don't know. Sheldon Cooper is subtle by comparison.

The danish police on the other hand is the typical easygoing danish character cliché, at least in the beginning.. As yo-u may tell I didn't like the series at all.

In my mind one of the most beautiful renderings of a diagnosis I have seen was Alt-Astrid in Fringe. As I recall Jasica Nicole has a relative that is autistic.
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Sorry, it's "Jasika" of course. She deserves to have her name spelled correctly.
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WTF: Stupid hipsters and frat boys rewarding SyFy and The Asylum for not even trying to make a good movie, by giving their newest shitfest way too much attention.

WTFTW: THE VENTURE BROS has its worst episode since PERCHANCE TO DEAN, yet it's still funnier and better written than most other comedies on TV.
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"WTF: Stupid hipsters and frat boys rewarding SyFy and The Asylum for not even trying to make a good movie, by giving their newest shitfest way too much attention. "
I particularly like the usage of shitfest
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Beware The Batman is based on a recent incarnation of the comics.

So MTV is now supporting piracy?
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So...they can just QUIT the scary monster island? WTF, indeed! I understand wanting to hold up the TV tropes of reality TV, but we came for the whole "now y'all gon' die!" not "I'm just gonna go home." Wouldn't EVERYONE do that?
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For years I've thought that EVERYONE would decide to go home 2 minutes into Survivor, Bachelor Pad, and Fear Factor. But apparently people like money more than dignity and getting to eat food that isn't bugs.
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they were told it was an accidental death and I think they soon won't be able to leave (will be abandoned or stranded there)
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Basically the contestant in the pilot died (GOTTEN EATEN BY SOME GIANT MONSTER OR SOMETHING THAT"S ALSO SUPER FAST) and the fake producers were like "uhhhh he fell down.., but if this is too real for any of your say so now and you can go home" and they would get $5000. So even though all of them were like t"his is not what I signed up for I can't believe someone died this is supposed to be for fun you guys!" that guy is the only one that left.
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FTW: The Bridge

FTW: Ray Donovan

FTW: Orange is the New Black

FTW: True Blood

FTW: hallucinogenic mushrooms on Siberia ("mean girl" thought the plan of making the other girl sick turned out better then expected when she ended up having a bad trip and almost died)

FTW: Luther (truthfully, I'm waiting to binge on it in 1-2 weeks when the season is over but I KNOW it is FTW)

FTW: teen wolf

FTW: the communities pages here on tv.com

WTF: hell on wheels should never be on the WTF list!! at least nothing from Hell on Wheels to date.

WTF: Under the Dome (I only got through the 1st two episodes~~if I hear that it gets better I'll start it again but episode 2 was so bad....there are to many other shows that I missed out on that I can now "catch up" on).
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Pretty much what she said...
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It's time for the Burn Notice team to get meta and create an elaborate plan to stop Marc Sarnoff.
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WTF: People who keep talking about Sharknado (I'm looking at you, Huffington Post).
FTW: Hollywood Game Night, definitely. Hope it did good in ratings.
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First, under no circumstance, no way, no how, can Hell on Wheels, ever, EVER, be on the WTF list.No way, Jose.Take that back, like NOW.
I have just finished watching my self made marathon of Bron/Broen in its BBC4 version, and while it looked somewhat like that movie , Untraceable, at times, it was time extremely well spent. The first episode of the US version seems to follow the 2007 Scandinavian original, but I hope they will change enough of the plot to make it a more interesting version 2.0.

WTF

I just don't get the logic , if any, behind Whodunnit and Siberia. The only reason for its existence is that the episodes might be used to further torture those poor saps at Guantanamo.Something that would resemble that scene from Clockwork Orange.
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Sharknado is on FTW and Hell On Wheels is on WTF

Worlds gone insane
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I'm guessing you didn't read the reason why they put either on the list they did. (look at my other post on here about Hell on Wheels, down below this one)

For Shaknado: I didn't watch it myself, but the above reasoning seems to be something along the lines of "It was so terrible that it was moderately entertaining to watch." Which isn't uncommmon with things you know are going to be terrible.
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WTF JMC31488

Info from poster:
1. Outlaw In Charge (do I need to spell it out for you)
2. date
3. time
4. two hour premiere
what more is needed? blinking christmas lights?
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The reasons they gave are weak

You obviously didnt read my post. Sharknado is a piece of shit, everyone agrees its a piece of shit, the reviewer said it was a piece of shit, and it did poorly in the ratings- Yet because this piece of shit trends on twitter its worthy of being on the FTW list.

To me the argument is this = does a shoddy poster promo deserve to be on the WTF list over a piece of shit like Sharknado - no it does not.

In summary Sharknado is a piece of shit

Wipe and flush
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@below
i am totally familiar with the concept of "it's so terrible it's moderately entertaining", fortunately for me, i am not a pretentious fop who wastes my time on it.

You can make your little Ed Wood based argument all you want, you are obviously missing the point.

Rewarding and promoting a piece of shit is a bad thing and so is the smugness of promoting it with the argument "it's so terrible it's moderately entertaining".
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You obviously have no concept of "it's so terrible it's moderately entertaining". I have no idea if it's true about the show, but the TV.com staff writers apparently thought so. If you don't understand that concept, then go look it up, it'll better educate you. Not gonna bother replying past this because you obviously have your panties in a bunch over the truth of that poster.
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FTW: flush the waste?
what a shitfest this is turning out to be!
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Their reason doesnt even make sense. Since when have 'posters' for tv shows ever been anything to WTF about a show? The text on the poster gives a good deal of information about what Season 3 entails
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God knows what bad shit they all smoked this week. I posted two hours and I am still furious.
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I'm guessing you only looked at titles and not the reason why Hell on Wheels was on the WTF list. I'll recap: It's because the new poster for it gave no details. I've never personally seen the show, but if a show I watch gives a poster for the season premiere and has no info (as the above one does for Hell on Wheels) I'd be upset because that defeats the purpose of making a poster. If you are simply going to state the premiere date, you could have done that with simple text.
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@below since it won't let me

If they were going to give a single line then state the date/time and it's a 2 hour premiere, then like I said, a single form of text would be sufficient and no need for a poster.

The entirety of the poster has that then it has a guy on a horse with a gun. Still no info from the picture. While you may be satisfied with a single line consisting of three words, most and obviously the TV.com staff writers, would not be happy about such a thing for their show promo.

This is the first I've personally ever heard the title 'Hell on Wheels' and taking that with that poster. I wouldn't be putting it on my to-watch list any time soon. From a viewer they should be trying to get, that poster does nothing to attract new people to the show.

While the three words MAY give clues, that defeats the purpose of making a poster. The image is supposed to give clues as well, but it's obviously not doing that. So, why waste the time to make a poster that doesn't give a detail about upcoming events? A promotional poster is meant to do those things. The text on the poster is meant for convenience and not meant to be the entirety of the poster.

If I were a fan of the show, I would be more upset at AMC than TV.com for pointing out the obviously lack of details.
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Obviously this deserves repeating:

WTF JMC31488

Info from poster:
1. Outlaw In Charge (do I need to spell it out for you)
2. date
3. time
4. two hour premiere
what more is needed? blinking christmas lights?
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Let me recap for you
Sharknado is a piece of shit
Hell on Wheels poster was dodgy
Sharknado deserves to be on the WTF side of the list more than a dodgy poster
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This at most warrants a line in the text of the review. If and when you will see the show, you'll understand my position.
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'Outlaw in Charge'. The 'outlaw' from the past seasons, after the season 2 finale events... is now in Charge. Thats a pretty big hint about season 3. And its a show about the wild west. A man, a horse and a gun pretty much sums things up.

I think people are so upset because it is such a great show it never makes the FTW list, but somehow a poster is a wtf, when compaired to all the rest of television all week? What exactly should have been on it?
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FTW:

TW-I agree with the no big dealness of the gay love. I love that about this show because one of two realities happens when anything of social importance is covered on a show. Either A.) They go out of their way to make a point or a statement that it becomes about that statement rather than just keeping it real. Like Glee and even Grey's Anatomy. Or B.) they avoid it all together so as not to make waves and end up just not being realistic at all. Which is even worse. So yes. Also, I like the strides in character development being made this season. Some of it is very subtle and may not even make sense just yet but its there.

Twisted- It continues to be my guilty pleasure teen show of the summer. I'm feeling less guilty about watching TW so I can just move that on out of the GP category. Avan Jogia is a special little gem. His character Danny is a fascinating character. The intricate bonds between him and his two friends are fascinating, even more so after this week's episode. While the shipper stuff is to be expected, I don't even mind watching it because I enjoy the murder mystery aspect so much,and I genuinely like all the main characters.

True Blood: Sookie actually put a plan together and it made freaking since. It only took how many seasons? I was proud of her for a freaking change.

King& Maxwell: EDGAR!!!!!!!
WTF:

-Cote De Pablo leaving NCIS. I'm kind of devastated. I loved her character. I loved the wonderful familial chemistry that had really hit it's stride in the past season. I loved the deep relationship that developed between her and Tony. Now, after eight years of this particular group, I cannot fathom how they're going to create a new chemistry for however long the show remains on. It's been on for almost 11 seasons now. I wish her all the luck in the world, but I can't lie, part of me wondered why she couldn't just stick it out until the end.

-Under The Dome. I still hold out hope that it's going to be good. I'm still going to watch, but it did get bad pretty darn fast. I detest the governor's kid or whatever. That little psychopathic creep is by far on of the most annoying characters on here, right along with the reporter. I just...yeah.

SYTYCD- I lost two of my fave dancers and I'm not really happy about that.
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FTW: Defiance - Finally the last two episodes of the season showed me some promise that I had been waiting for all season long and I hope they carry it through to the next season or I'm done with it.
FTW: Continuum - This show is just so good and season 2 just keeps getting better.
FTW: Sons of Anarchy promo
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I've had enough of this vine bullshit, no matter what I do I can't find a way to play them on my computer, I don't have a fucking device for fuck's almighty sake! I should be able to watch these bloody six second videos on my Goddamn computer! I'm a little more an irritated if you hadn't caught that.
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You are missing nothing
the only vine i have seen that was worth watching was "Arya Starks reaction to the red wedding", they are on youtube as well

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQ4fieDry8A
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I like some of the compilations I've seen. But some people upload their vines to youtube as well and honestly I can't really enjoy anything that's so short, even if it's funny. But what irritates me is I can't figure out how to make it work, and when I see vines on FTW vs. WTF then I get really frustrated because I want to know what the fuss is about.
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try this (not sure if it will work)
https://vine.co/v/hazrdLdgZpm
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I've downloaded it and everything but when I click on the link it takes me to the page you wrote out and nothing happens. It has a button to toggle the mute but it doesn't play or anything.
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let me try posting it as a video in the GoT community but I'm not sure if it will play outside the USA but it's worth trying
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@EB
trust me I can relate to "raging"~lol
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Don't worry about it, I'm spending too much time raging about not getting to see a six second video, I'm sure I'll live without seeing it. Thanks for trying to help anyway.
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I get an error message when I try to use the embed code/link. Maybe someone better with computers than I can get it to play constantly (before hitting "publish" is plays constantly but it won't publish).
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I preferred Hollywood Game Night the last time I saw it, when it was on USA, it was called Happy Hour, and it starred the Zappa Brothers.

And the answer to the Moonman question would be, "because everything KAWS designs has a skull and crossbones for a head."
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FTW to Venture Bros, Momma's Boys. Hank tricks his dad into a phone friendship with a Teddy Ruxpin while Dean learns another hard truth, and Dermott has his own reveal. Sounds insane and it was, but in a really good way.

FTW to the return of Top Gear UK!

WTF to Franklin & Bash for losing its edge thanks to a season 2 shake-up that included a very forced Heather Locklear boss. I gave it enough time, now it's getting called out, the show has lost its very limited spark.

FTW to the return of Craig Ferguson, even if it clearly was taped before the break.

WTF to the rest of the week being full of "meh".

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Sorry Claudia and Batman, not on my win list. It's obvious you guys had to struggle to get through this week's article, Sharknado survival, Batman having "promise", Game Night not being as bad as you feared, the kid from Game of Thrones holding a puppy in a Vine video?

As for more Arrested Development, I voted WTF as "yes" and "no" just aren't accurate, I want them to keep trying not to suck, but I certainly don't want more of season 4. Season 3 survived Wee Britain.

I didn't know Whodunnit was actually airing right now, that's great marketing ABC, home run!

Aw shit, Ashley "Ahsoka Tano" Eckstein is the model in those tacky Walking Dead shirts, that can only mean they're exclusive to her company "Her Universe". Up until now, I had a higher opinion of the site as a place for female genre fans to go to get stuff that wasn't embarrassing Hot Topic-level shitty, guess being a dude I hadn't gone lately to see the site's downfall.

Why would Miami destroy production headquarters that could bring more media production business into their area? I get that parks are important too, but tax revenues pay for parks and media production brings a lot of tax revenues.

Wow, thanks for that look at the new Moonman, that is really stupid, that is "we did a thing because we could without stopping to think why" stupid - oh wait, that's how MTV is now! Perfect. So it's a "cute" skull and crossbones for a head a la Elmyra's hair bow from Tiny Toons... of course?
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Ferguson should be a perma-FTW. Especially weeks with Morgan Freeman.
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FTW -

Luther -Confronts a serial killer = "Well go on.... say something" - nuff said

Ray Donovan - Showtime has another hit on its hands

Orange is the New Black - only watched the 1st episode so far, and its quite good

Teen Wolf - really good episode, especially the Stiles and Scott part (with the gasoline)

True Blood - a really solid episode

Betty Whites Off Their Rockers gets cancelled - GOODBYE. I like Betty White, but the fact that this show was taking up a prime time spot while some decent sitcoms got cancelled befuddled me for a while


FTW/WTF -

Defiance - not a great finale, but did leave itself open for an interesting return (if done properly)


WTF-

Sharknado - which stain on humanitys underwear thought this would be a good idea. You can have all the "internet buzz" you want, that will not stop the majority of people thinking -
"Thats a piece of shit, i am not going to waste my time on that piece of shit. I'm sure some site will punish someone by making them watch and review this piece of shit......i'll read their review... confirm its a piece of shit and then not watch it some more!"
AND THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT A SEQUEL! nonononono.....its a piece of shit
And i know someone will come up with "oooh the internet buzz had GoT levels" STOP IT. ITS A PIECE OF SHIT. WIPE AND FLUSH!

Ziva leaving NCIS - pity

Under The Dome - Just bad....bad....bad....not sharknado level of bad, but still bad

Donald Glover only on 5 episodes of the next season of Community
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