FTW vs. WTF: The TV Week in Review (June 8-14)

Have your hands stopped working altogether? Are black and white panels growing on your forehead? Do you fall to the ground clutching your ankle in response to the slightest gust of wind? Then you may have... World Cup Fever! 

The world's largest tournament in the world's most popular sport kicked (hahahaha) off this week, so this edition of FTW vs. WTF goes out to futbol fans and haters all over the globe (sorry, dads!). Thus, let's take a look back at the last seven days in television and talk about what was a 44' header GOAAAALLLLLLLLL and what was Spain's defense


SPOILER ALERT: If you haven't finished watching this week's new episodes (of Game of Thrones, VeepFargo, Orphan Black, etc.), we suggest that you hold off on reading this story until you do. 



FTW:

Cosmos concludes by reminding us that we reside on a pale blue dot


While Cosmos was occasionally hit-or-miss, there's no denying the educational, entertaining, and scientific pleasures involved in tuning in each week. Whether it was learning about light, dark matter, climate change, or the crusade against leaded chemicals, Cosmos always highlighted our privileged and perilous position as seekers of knowledge and inhabitants of Earth. And with its final episode, Cosmos asked a seemingly easy question, but one that's fraught with controversy and differences of opinion (as the episode openly acknowledged): Surely, the species that has managed to send a spacecraft beyond its solar system can save the planet it calls home?


FTW:

The Masaaki Yuasa-directed episode of Adventure Time was more deliriously delightful than expected


We'd been looking forward to "Food Chain" since the moment it was announced, and it didn't disappoint. During a science fair at the Candy Kingdom, Magic Man transformed Finn and Jake into birds in a bit of his trademark mischievousness, and the experience allowed Finn to better appreciate the circle of life, so to speak. Finn and Jake went from birds to cells eating dead animals to plants to caterpillars back to humans, taking us on a trippy and cheekily educational ride with the kind of verve we've come to expect from the show's more experimental episodes. There were even a few musical numbers! Here's hoping Adventure Time becomes a playground for all sorts of directors, a development we'd be more than happy with. And if you liked the episode, you should definitely check out Yuasa's current anime series Ping Pong on Hulu. Quality, quality stuff. (.GIF via somehummingbirds)


FTW:

A giant bow and arrow on Game of Thrones

There was plenty to like about "The Watchers on the Wall," an orgy of orchestrated violence and impressive special effects. But after one Mance Rayder's giants stepped out with a friggin' massive bow and arrow and shot a guy through the chest—catapulting him through the roof of an outlook and sending him over the wall to the other side—everything else was playing for second place. Ultimately the plot of the episode could be relayed in one sentence, but Neil Marshall's artful direction and the sheer scale of the battle at the Wall made for some of the best action we've seen on TV this year.


FTW:

Metastasis breaks good

The Spanish-language adaptation of Breaking Bad debuted on Univision on Sunday, and it's basically a shot-for-shot recreation of AMC's best series, with a few changes: The RV is a school bus, there was a mariachi band at Walter's surprise birthday party, and the White family's swimming pool is a fountain. Otherwise, it's almost exactly the same, and that's the way you adapt this masterpiece: You leave it alone. 


FTW:

Veep closes out its third season with a double shot of schadenfreude 

The great thing about Veep is that you absolutely know that Selena and her team are going to screw "it" up, whatever it is, and yet you're always blindsided by how things take a turn for the worse. For most of this season, the it has been Selena's flailing presidential campaign, but in the last couple of episodes, the show hot-shotted the VP into the Oval Office. Unsurprisingly, Selena's tenure as president almost immediately went south, from the squeaky shoes provided by Gary to Mike's clumsiness in blundering the initial oath of office. The two-episode Season 3 finale showcased the powers of this series and this cast; their powers; there is Veep, and then there's every other comedy on TV. 


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Aces! Billy Bob Thornton gets creepier, somehow, on Fargo 

Fargo's recent time jump marked an interesting risk for the show to take, but in this week's penultimate episode, the characters had a little more time to breathe, giving us a better understanding of what's been going on since the nasty shootouts up north. As amazing and disturbing as Billy Bob Thornton's Lorne Malvo has been throughout the series, his turn as a fun-loving, almost cheesy dentist was probably the most stirring. Dude just has a creepy smile, ya know? From deadpan murder spree in the elevator to the cheery-yet-malicious conversation with Keith Carradine's Lou and the family that purchased Lester's old house, this episode was Peak Thornton. 


FTW:

Netflix reboots The Magic School Bus, '90s kids rejoice 


Forget saving current crap like Revolution, Netflix has finally wised up and given the world what it wants—nay, what it needsmore Ms. Frizzle-chaperoned adventures


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Neil Patrick Harris rocked the Tony Awards (again)


NPH never won an Emmy for his portrayal of Barney Stinson on How I Met Your Mother, but he's taken home several for hosting the Tonys—and even though this year's MC-ing duties belonged to Wolverine, the former Doogie Howser still managed to steal the show. The actor got one step closer to an EGOT, winning Best Leading Actor in a Musical for Hedwig and the Angry Inch, and his acceptance speech was insightful and heartwarming and everything we expected it to be. But it was his performance of "Sugar Daddy" from Hedwig (embedded above) that was truly legendary.


FTW:

The 100's season finale proves that The CW is home to more than sissy love triangles and vampires who make terrible decisions


When the sci-fi series debuted in March, many people wrote it off as the network's latest piece of worse-than-mediocre teenage drivel. But as Season 1 progressed, it became clear that The 100 is more than just a youth-oriented drama populated by underwear models. The show never shied away from tackling adult themes, choosing instead to portray the harsh and brutal reality of a post-apocalyptic society and how people must adapt to survive within it. Wednesday's finale ended in a ring of fire, with several lives left hanging in the balance, proving once again that The 100 is willing to go the distance. And please don't even get us started on that mysterious quarantine at Mount Weather that has us foaming at the mouth to find out what happens next.


FTW:

Eva Green went to far-off places on Penny Dreadful

Showtime's supernatural smash-up has had its good times and bad times, but the show's Vanessa-centric fifth episode was a devastatingly raw hour full of suffering and pain. The burden of its most uncomfortable scenes fell on series star Eva Green, and she acted her ass off in the face of all-nude demon sex and mental-ward cruelty; thanks to her powerhouse performance, "Closer Than Sisters" was Penny Dreadful's best episode to date. The actress was completely out-of-body during the episode's wackadoodle moments (just thinking of her asylum experience makes our skin crawl), and evocatively vulnerable during its more heart-wrenching scenes. Brava!


FTW:

Young Louie gets blazed and confused

At 90 minutes long, "In the Woods" wasn't your typical episode of FX's unique dramedy. After catching his own daughter smoking the pot, Louie recalled the first time he rode the ganja train by taking us on a cinematic journey via a classic coming-of-age story told almost entirely through flashback. As much as Louie wanted to be mad at Lilly for getting baked (and it looked like she had the munchies), all he could do was remember the pain he'd caused his mom and teacher when by doing the same thing, and he closed the episode with some poignant parental wisdom: "Just, I love you and I'm here. That's all I got." Extra credit for Devin Druid's excellent performance as 13-year-old Louie and Jeremy Renner as a drug dealer who hugged his cat. 


FTW:

The Daily Show takes on Glass-holes


The always excellent Jason Jones set out to explore Google's Google Glass Explorers program, and the results were equal parts depressing and hilarious. 


FTW:

Graceland is back, baby!


The damning evidence tape is still floating around. Charlie is gonna shank a roommate. Briggs has bad ideas. Mike is a friggin' Boy Scout. It's not bikini season on USA without a side of beach-party angst.


FTW:

Orphan Black's Donnie grows some balls


Mr. Hendrix is a strange fellow. He originally came off as a bumbling idiot who was little more than a whipping boy for Alison. Then there was that period of time where we thought he was a threat because of his role as Alison's monitor. Then we circled back around to thinking he was a bumbling idiot who simply didn't know the truth about the clones. And then that bumbling idiot accidentally killed Dr. Leekie and was horribly inept at disposing of Leekie's rotting corpse. But when the time came to stand up and defend his family against Angela and Vic, the dude found his balls and it was AWESOME. #TeamDonniesBalls!




FTWTF:

The Walking Dead already knows what Seasons 11 and 12 will look like

WHOA! Getting a bit ahead of yourself, aren't you, Walking Dead producer David Alpert? At a producers' panel held last weekend, Alpert revealed that the AMC drama's creative team knows what the benchmark moments of Seasons 11 and 12 will be... even though they're currently working on Season 5. Sure, the series is based on a comic that's way ahead of the show, but thinking seven seasons ahead is a stretch, isn't it? Ahhh, who are we kidding, this show will live until Season 12 and beyond. 




WTF:

No, seriously, WTF is Halt and Catch Fire wanting to do?

Because we're not entirely sure. AMC's computer drama debuted with a pilot that was equal parts hopeful and worrisome, and the series' second episode, "FUD," confirmed the latter, unfortunately. IBM raiding Cardiff's clients was realistic and genuinely sort of nail-biting, but it also made Cardiff a very short-lived site of employment, as the episode pointed out. And it seems like the show may be less interested in exploring the computing and business scene of the 1980s than it is in maintaining a "mysterious" backstory for Joe, with his $2 million IBM tantrum, botched event dates, stolen speeches, and scarred torso. "Tell me you have a plan, Joe!" indeed.


WTF:

Nikke Finke's new website


Hollywood's queen of muckraking and self-congratulatory TOLDJAs launched her new site on Thursday after seven months of non-compete hibernation, and her first post is quintessential Finke. Filled with expletives, name-calling, and a promise to be "your cruel and quirky alternative to Deadlame and Valiety and The Hollywood Unreported and TheCrap." We missed you, Nikki. (Should we be upset that she doesn't have a pun for TV.com?)


WTF:

This kid claiming he finished Orange Is the New Black Season 2 in six hours

The race to binge-watch all 13 hours of the Netflix drama's second season ended just six-and-a-half hours after it was released, according to one James Rush from the U.K. But as he told The Observer, "The main reason I made it through so quick was I was not at all intrigued by some of the sequences focusing away from Piper. As the show headed towards the finale of the season I began skipping some scenes for general lack of interest.” UMMM THAT DOESN'T COUNT. 


WTF:

Pretty Little Liars tries to pull one over on us

The Season 5 premiere wasn't all that bad. In fact, some parts of it were pretty exciting, some parts were touching (like the Liars remembering life before A), and we even got a glimpse of the complicated mess that will come with reintegrating a very-alive Alison into the clique. But Shana being propped up as A (even "an A") had better be subterfuge. Having her want justice for Jenna is one thing; insinuating that a fringe character with basically no familiarity with the Liars is their seasons-long nemesis feels downright preposterous. She can maybe be a hoodie. But she's not allowed to be the heir to Mona's throne as the one who "raised the game." Here's hoping the Liars believing that A is behind them in the wake of Shana's death is a trick on them and not a trick on us. 


What's on YOUR list of TV loves and hates this week? The debut of Murder in the First on TNT? The Season 4 premiere of Suits? 24's drone attack? Share your own FTWs and WTFs in the comments!


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I always get thrown off by the fact that the FTW vs. WTF is released the same day as the next week's Game of Thrones. So I've already stopped thinking about last week's and moved on. Can't wait to see what they thought about "The Children"...
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Blimey, that Eva Green, has she got daddy issues or what?
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Okay, so TV.com has done it again with Graceland with the bit under the picture in the FTW section not making any sense based off of the first episode.

"The damning evidence tape is still floating around. Charlie is gonna shank a roommate. Briggs has bad ideas. Mike is a friggin' Boy Scout. It's not bikini season on USA without a side of beach-party angst."

I'm still really upset about this and I don't know why. But no one from TV.com weighed in on the Graceland review and not it's being perpetuated here. Based on the s2 premiere I saw, Charlie was not ready to shank a roommates, it wasn't angsty at all really, until maybe the end. What is Briggs' bad idea they're referring to? How is Mike a Boy Scout in this specific instance? I'm all around confused by TV.com's coverage.
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FTW - John Oliver's segment on FIFA and THE WORLD CUP!!!!!!!!
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Assuming The Observer is a newspaper, how does somebody binge-watching a TV constitute news? That's taking pandering to stupid people to a whole new level. Also, thanks for explaining who Nikki Finke is. When you mentioned that she had returned in the News Briefs earlier in the week, my thoughts ran along the lines of "Returned from where and who is Nikki Finke?" I probably could have gone without knowing though.

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WORLD CUP!
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What's that?
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I don't get it.
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FTW: The World Cup is back!
FTW: Graceland is back!
FTW: Game of Thrones (obviously).

WTF: Italy beating England (seriously, Roy, what were you thinking?)!
WTF: The standard of the officiating at the World Cup (it's been shit, basically)!
WTF: The Graceland Season 2 opening episode review (come on MaryAnn, you're better than this)!

Also FTW, although not technically on TV, this post and this post from our favourite GrumpyClown.
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I bet Halt makes your next week "WTF". (No spoilers.) :-)
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FTW: The left picture of Eva Green.
WTF: The right picture of Eva Green.
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FTW: San Antonio Spurs in Game 5!
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YAY Spurs!
Our office has a strict dress code but when the spurs are playing, people can wear anything Spurs related;-)
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@ Orange is the New Black. Skipping scenes just to watch Piper..indeed doesn't count, as the ensemble is the reason to watch. Come back as an adult, and really take in all the pain.
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@ Walking Dead already knowing about season 12:
Hey the makers of How I Met your Mother knew the end of their last season 9 since 2006 it it worked out great, right? ^^
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Not so much for HIMYM. The show was never that good--not even close to Friends. So who really cares how this mediocre nonsense ended? There were several especially stupid episodes in the last season, like the lame Dr. Seuss one was absolutely terrible. Not like Moonlighting did it, which was rather delightful instead of just being plain stupid. Like Joe Piscopo, the show was the luckiest little show ever to be on TV, and should have been canceled after season 2. Barney and Robin forever, but the rest can go whistle for all I care. Just sayin'...
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GoT's battle episode has proven divisive with some loving it and others totally hating it. I rewatched and enjoyed it even more the second time even though I am no fan of action movies / shows. To me it was finally showing the importance of the wall vs. the petty political squabbles over at King's Landing. And I can't believe people find Jon Snow boring. Sure he is no Tyrion or Oberyn - awww Oberyn, you'd have loved the battle of the wall although you may have resented the lack of wenches...
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For me, GOT was a big WTF, I dindn´t like the episode, but I know a lot of people love it...and I know I´m a huge fan of the books so I´m not imparcial....but...
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FTW
The 100
Great season finale
WTF
The 100
How is Lincoln still alive?
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FTS (this is F*ck The Site) as the comment I made about 12 hours ago.is gone.

FTW for Halt and Catch Fire because it is a very interesting series about the period the personal computer came to life. The series is correct in so many ways. the tech talk is so correct and in case people do not understand it, @ArkhamNative had two posts explaining it. You can find the first one here and the second one here. The characters are interesting enough and they are believable for that period of time. I've been there and lived it. This post should have referred to @ArkhamNative's posts. The characters are interesting and intriguing and if staff says that the back story in the second episode should have been clear they deviate from every other review they've done until now where they say that a back story is an interesting way to develop a series. Why should it be clear in the SECOND episode? I am trying to find words to describe what I think but all I can think is: Get a life.
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Well said Re Eva Green, say what you like about her, she commits to a role, a bizarre, harrowing performance so far in Penny Dreadful and in this weeks episode in particular, that I hope is recognised come awards season.
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I don't know that I've seen Eva Green in anything before . She was fully committed and fierce in that whole episode through some very uncomfortable scenes. She has a new fan.
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FTW:Hugh Jackman hosting the Tonys. It was good, although aside from hopping his way through the opening there isn't anything particular stands out. Between Jackman and Harris, the standard of hosting for the past few years has been incredibly high.

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FTW1 The Walking Dead planning season 12.
FTW2 The 100 "Game over man" homage to Aliens.
FTW3 Game of Thrones battle.
FTW4 Orange Is The New Black back.
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"(Should we be upset that she doesn't have a pun for TV.com?)"

Personally, I've never heard of Nikki Finke before, but I'll throw a pun in the oven & dub this place skeevy.com for the day if it'll make y'all feel any better ;-)
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I finished Orange Is the New Black Season 2 in about 2 hours skipping almost everything boring for me what was most of the show really!
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Firstly I wanted to thank TV.com for acknowledging the WORLD CUP. As this is an American site, I am pleasantly surprised. The US boys starts their first game against Ghana on the 17th Tuesday and I think we do have a chance. Just look at Coata Rica.

Louie always managed to get the best guest stars. Jeremy Renner was great. I could only assume they are fans of Louie as I do not think Louie could afford to pay any of them well.

OB, GOT, Fargo and the 100 all had good episodes. Faking it ended very well too. My TV viewing was down 50% after World cup is on as expected.

I still have to catch up on OITNB, Salem, Gang Related, Catfish and The WW project none of which is mentioned above.
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Congrats to Costa Rica!
You really had a great start! :-)
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As long as you do not play against out team, I will be cheering for your side.
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Ooohh you guys are cruel :( (Spanish citizen humiliated by football here)
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Eh, I was pleased :-)
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You Dutch people are even more cruel LOL
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Yeah, we choose not to make the sixth and seventh goal although those chances were hard to miss :-)

Still love you!
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Thumbs up to this whole conversation...
Also, COME ON ENGLAND (the Italy game was a minor blip)
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Let me think if I still love you...

Let me think a little longer... :o)
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FTWs this week all belong to Game of Thrones:

Grenn death reciting his vows and defeating a giant,
The very, very last "You know nothing Jon Snow" Ygritte ever said (I'm still crying over it),
Olly, the youngest crow that ever lived, gets to avenge the village he grew up in,
Sam & Gilly's first kiss,
Pyp dying in Sam's arm (I'm still cryong over it as well),
Ser Allister's war speech (Who knew he had it in him?),
The Thenn last battle (he may be a cannibal, but he died like a hero),
Tormund vs Ser Allister (it was epic! Plus, for the first time in my TV life I didn't know who I wanted to win, so it was nerve.racking as well),
Ghost, and the mammoth and the giants and the biggest fire the north has ever seen.
Oh! And "Edd you have the Wall", his face was priceless!

WTF: 12 seasons of The Walking Dead?! I barely made it through the first 4 seasons, I don't think I have another 4 seasons in me, to care for all these characters is exhausting.
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So agree on your list of superb moments in GoT's battle episode!

Also on The Walking Dead... I couldn't get past season 1 and since then I keep wondering if I am missing on a good show but 12 seasons of zombie apocalypse feel a bit of a protracted apocalypse...
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It's not the zombies per se, but their food what makes it emotionally exhausting for me. The show makes me feel, whether it's deep sadness over Lizzie, deep anger over Grimes (Damn you Grimes!) or deep connection to Carol.

I don't know how a fictional horror show can be so emotional to me, but this one is.
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FTW: 24, always and forever!
FTWTF: Undateable, I'm enjoying it more with each episode but I can't stand the two lead characters. It's like the chap playing Justin has an agreement that he gets to sing in each and every episode! Luckily the supporting cast are actually pretty good.
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I'm pretty much on par with all of the FTW entries this week, in particular seeing Graceland back, GOT's "Watchers of the Wall", Neil Patrick Harris finally getting the recognition he has long deserved, and how awesome Billy Bob Thornton is. As for the WTF's I guess I'm not missing out on what I don't know.
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Based on your post, shouldn't Nikki Finke be a FTWTF? I've missed her. Since the owner of Deadline bought Variety, Variety alerts have been the priority in my inbox, even though Deadline typically has the same story. I resent that. I go to Variety for superficial stuff, reviews and selective analyses. Deadline is my go-to site for everything else, and it's a much better site.
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That picture of Eva Green reminds me of someone...


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FTW; The battle on the Wall on Game of Thrones
WTF: PLL is renewed for two more seasons.
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FTW: Everything Fargo, I adore this show like few things on TV and am probably not going to like anything as much as Fargo for the rest of the year. Why must there only be 1 episode left? WHY?!

FTW: Neil Patrick Harris! His Tony appearance gives me yet another reason to love him, but NPH is just perpetually FTW :)

FTW: Orange is the New Black is back! Though I'm way behind @JustJamesRush and his incredible inability to watch TV properly :)

FTW: The google glass report on The Daily Show.

WTF: The Walking Dead's hoped for 12 seasons. I get that there's alot of source material, but seriously, 12 seasons worth?! Carl's going to be like 30 by the time things get wrapped up, lol.

WTF: Halt and Catch Fire being a WTF. I have yet to see this show (it's hanging out on my DVR), but unless it's Hemlock Grove levels of bad. At least give it a four episode review before putting it on the WTF list.
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please remind me
FTW: for the win
FTWTF:????? i don't remember that one
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For The Win/What The F**k...
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from the win to f**k?
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or it could be interpreted as Fuck The World vs What The Fuck
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Great joke about Spain's defense. Olé!
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FTW - The 100 was very very good this week and ended perfectly, this show grew leaps and bounds from episode 1, I can't wait until season 2.
FTW - Penny dreadful. Holy shit.......... Eva green is a brilliant actress and boy did she act her ass off this episode, that asylum scene was spine tingling.
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FTW: John Oliver tearing into FIFA
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FTW John Oliver fpr making soccer interesting to Americans for longer than 30 seconds :)
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Basically what did he say? I'll try and find the video. But maybe Oliver is sour because England hasn't one any World Cup since 1966...
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Just about how corrupt FIFA is little things like:
A non-profit organisation that has 1$ Billion sat in the bank
How it forced Brazil to change its alcohol laws because Budweiser is a major sponser
etc.
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The sad thing is that the FIFA is even more despicable than John Oliver was able to describe.
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Oh, now I really wanna watch it. Oliver is right. We have a law: no alcohol in the stadiums, period. I can't believe our politicians caved and changed it to please FIFA. Another thjng is they ask for volunteers, who will work for free, Yet FIFA is making millions out of the event. Couldn't they spare a little pay for an honest day's work?

This has become a joke here. Whene er somebody has unreasonable demands, people say they are demanding "FIFA standards."
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Forgot about that, that was fantastic indeed, as is John Oliver...
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FTW:
FTW: Salem: witch dunking and cutting frogs out of one's own belly
FTW: Penny Dreadful: everything and I mean everything
FTW: GoT: everything with a special shout out to Olie
FTW: 24: drone evasion;-)
FTW: Fargo: everything Malvo
FTW: Donnie toughening up and Allison with the jackhammer
FTW: Suits is back (haven't watch the most recent episode yet but I'm still happy it is back and I can watch it sunday)

Hell has frozen over since I don't have Orphan Black as FTW.
FTW/WTF: Helena getting all cartoonish in her laughter while "impregnating" (lol) that guy; I like what she did but not how she did it (to campy and cartoonish…she has a pipe in her mouth and says she isn't trying to be funny [show is trying to hard] and her maniacal laughter [pandering but I'm biased since I thought Tony was the product of an edgy show trying to hard to be edgy when it didn't need to…not yet anyway

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WTF: some obscure shit in the official list. Like why are you giving press (media time) to some jackass who claims to have watched OitNB when he just skips parts of it. Why give this fame whore any publicity? Who cares about that twit

WTF: why bitch about not knowing where Halt and Catch Fire is going. I haven't seen it yet but your reasoning for putting it as WTF doesn't seem logical.

WTF: The Bachelorette "honoring" the dead. Bachelorette's Andi kicks Eric off the show since he says she has a poker face and not being real. Like any of them are being "real". Eric later dies while paragliding and while the show honors him, I don't think Andi should of been included--they had fought and she kicked him off the show after he called her bluff. Probably no perfect way to handle it but it just doesn't sit well with me
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I wish you would write this list.
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I like Halt and Catch Fire! Of course its not packed full of actions, contains lots of words and requires some brain-power to keep up with the legalities of it all... so of course tv.com doesnt like it.

Since I pretty much agree with the rest of your list, I'll just claim it as my own and add SYTYCD to the FTW (because Im a nerd like that).
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I also don't get the general hatred for Halt (apart from the annoying name). I do not really understand most of the tech stuff but I find it a good watch, at least a bit different from so many other shows... It is a bit clunky at times but the acting is excellent... sure it is not clear what the plot is exactly going to be about yet I think people are being a little too impatient with a show that's aired like 2 episodes only...
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Kiowa!!!!!!!!!
I've missed seeing you around this site!
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Sorry but Penny Dreadful didn't live up to it's potential as a back story for Vanessa. What could've been great ended up boring and confusing. Is she possessed by the big bad end all Egyptian death god? If so why is she fracking around with Sir Malcom instead of destroying the world?
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I do not mind Vanessa being possessed or in some way communing with evil/the underworld but I do agree with you totally that the background story was underwhelming and unnecessary protracted (felt like an episode of some boring British self-involved costume drama). Also Vanessa's hooking up with her best friend's fiance seemed to me out of character both in relation to who Vanessa was before (Mina's best friend and sexually curious but inexperienced) and who she is now.
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I think the sex with the fiance was key in breaking down the walls that lead to her having sex with whatever evil at the end. I chalked that whole thing up to her breakdown on the way to possession. I'm still baffled at how bad this episode was. So maybe she's possessed with Ah Net the death goddess but if that were the case why isn't she out looking for Ah Met Rah? I thought for a minute he was Dracula but if that's the case why didn't Dracula come after Vanessa instead of Mina? All I know is by seasons end they better have a good explination for everything or I won't be back next year.
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Agreed. We all appreciate that Eva's acting was superlative, but that doesn't mean the episode was good. That makes two eps in a row that were underwhelming. It'd better return to form tonight or they may as well set the rest of the season on a farm with one zombie per episode
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I'm sorry you precious media types have to watch the series with the rest of us schlubs and didn't get a screener ...but to bitch you don't know what is ahead on Halt and Catch Fire is purely ignorant. Every site, including this one, is bitching because you don't know what is coming. You know what...episode 2 was brilliant, And what you are complaining about is set up for the rest of the series - not some big conspiracy to confuse you. Goddamn get over yourself. Watch it with us and stop bitching about not knowing what comes next. That is why it is fun.
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Agreed. The show is resisting being categorized and that's driving people who like to put things in pigeonholes crazy.

Is it Mad Men? Is it historical docudrama? Is it fun, "nerdy" TV? So far, it has exceeded all of these. (If you have doubts about it not being Mad Men, apparently that will end tonight.) If it's only episode 2 why are things moving so fast? Why does it seem we know so much about these characters already? Etc., etc.
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The tv.com critics forget that Halt and Catch Fire may be about computers, but like any good show, it first must be about CHARACTERS.
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Wut? Are there 'splody things yet? Any rapes? Ach, the show just has no focus.

I really often wonder if people who watch TV for a living actually watch the same show I am watching
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They forget that the show is not depicting the history of Dell or Compaq. It's a fictitious company, so this gives the writers to delve into the characters' past and dig up different stories. Unlike the founders of Compaq, I'm sure, Joe and his gang may reveal all sorts of interesting personal stories. But of course, the computer angle will always remain.

In a way it's like Silicon Valley (which Tim loves, by the way), but serious. The show is about a computing discovery that will make an impact on technology, but it's as much about the people behind it.
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No no - I get that. It is more or less - criticisms are being leveled against the show that are ridiculous - and it stems from how pissed off they are they were not given screeners beyond what we all were given. It seems they are digging up reasons to rip on the show ...TV.com didn't resort to what I teased, but they found the an even more non-sensical reason you just mentioned.
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I see your point, @edshrinker, but, from what I understood, tv.com didn't seem to ask for more gore and violence. They said, and I quote, "And it seems like the show may be less interested in exploring the computing and business scene of the 1980s than it is in maintaining a "mysterious" backstory for Joe," which made it clear to me that they want more about computers and technology, and less about Joe the character, which, as I've pointed out, is a silly criticism. A story is must be primarily about characters.
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Yes yes yes, of course. But there still have been no decapitations, guttings, headshots, or rapes. It has two Whole EPISODES and yet - none of these things are even hinted it and the whole story handed to us in some type of exposition. All it is doing is establishing the premise and backstories of the characters in context of a story.

I mean, c'mon. Who wants to watch that?

(*hint* I do)
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FTW: The scene between Billy Bob Thornton's Lorne Malvo and Keith Carradine's Lou at the diner in Fargo.
FTW: Louie's flashback episode.

WTF: Speaking of FX shows, I was annoyed by the commercial breaks during those same shows. Louie's 94 minute episode had 30 minutes of commercials, which is the same amount of time seen in two hour programs. Except for the first and last segments of the show, no segment in between lasted longer than 6 minutes before going to commercial. At one point, after a 4 minute commercial, Louie showed a segment that was only three minutes long before going into another 3 minute commercial. And then a little later a 4 minute commercial with a four minute segment. Fargo did better with its 75 minute program, with 21 of those minutes being commercials, but no middle segment lasted longer than 8 minutes. Even with a DVR (which is how I checked the timing, fast forwarding through the shows after watching them) this was irksome. Oh, and sorry for all the numbers in my rant.
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Hold on. How is the giant bow and arrow better than the hidden swinging sharp pendulum thing in the ice?????/
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you mean the scythe. :)
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If The Walking Dead has so much source maerial to work with why does it always feel like it's going at a snails pace?
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Halt and Catch Fire by no means deserves a WTF. It's pretty good! What happened to the 4-episode test? Give the show at least that. But this WTF looks more like a need instant gratification.
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PLease read my comment above. The media is still having a yeast infection because they didn't get screeners. So everything is "confusing" because they haven't watched 4-episodes in already. Ep 2 was brilliant. This and other sites are still sore about limited media availability and are still being punks about it in their reviews. WATCH THE FUCKING SERIES AS WE DO! We aren't supposed to know what they are setting up. And it has me fasinated, not aggrivated.
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Hey guess what. I watched 12 hours of television in 6 and a half hours. I just skipped 40% of every episode because of my "general lack of interest". I heard that's the best way to watch your favorite movies and television shows, just skip a good portion of them because it seems like they are slow.

What's the best way to speed-binge-watch Orange Is The New Black season 2? O I know, just watch episode 1 and episode 13 (Keep in mind though, you have to skip the first hour of episode 13 because it's a longer episode, wouldn't want to waste anytime on the "slow" parts).

God. I don't understand what is happening in the minds of individuals anymore.
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Veep and Fargo were top of the list for sure...and don't forget the return of Suits!!

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I don't get the dislike for Halt And Catch Fire, for me it should not be in WTF at all...the second episode improved the show even more, if anything...
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Please read my comment above, Marion. I think it explains the douchiness of sites like this
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