FTW vs. WTF: The TV Week in Review (November 11)

Hey remember last week when we caused controversy over our "violence toward women" entry in the WTF section? If you're interested in how it came to pass, check out our most recent podcast for a little extra insight from Price and Tim.

Also: If we were to set up a way to get your FTW and WTF suggestions before this story is posted every week, with the idea being that we could include some of them, would you be interested in participating? And if so, how? Through a forum on the site? Twitter? Let's hear your thoughts in the comments!


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The sheer audacity of American Horror Story: Asylum's Anne Frank plotline


While it's still up in the air as to whether this new character named Anne Frank (Franka Potente) is who she claims to be, there's nothing uncertain about how truly tasteless/hilarious this entire concept is. Ryan Murphy, may your crazytrain continue to roll full steam ahead.



Goodbye, election ads


No really, GOODBYE ELECTION ADS.



Fox News' election coverage


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At the risk of politicizing this otherwise (mostly) apolitical story, anyone who tuned into Fox News' coverage of election night was likely riveted by some of the weirdest, tensest, and most hilarious pieces of theater to air on television all year. Between pundit Karl Rove's frustrated blustering to anchor Megyn Kelly's impromptu march into a back office, Fox News was definitely destination #1 for those looking to enjoy some good, old-fashioned election schadenfreude.



The fall of a The Walking Dead warrior whose legacy will live on forever [SPOILER]


We pay our respects to the one and only T-Dog, the man who was never supposed to last this long but did through the strength of the human spirit and not doing anything too stupid except for maybe that one time he cut his arm open on a car door while a zombie horde was walking by. We'll miss you, T-Dog, and to show you how much, here's a sampling of all your greatest dialogue: "..."

Oh, and we'll miss you too, Lori, I guess.



Beauty and the Beast was SLIGHTLY more watchable this week




Elementary had a really strong episode this week


They're bringing in Irene Adler as a story point even before Moriarty! Jolly good show.



This traffic reporter's helpful post-election directions to Canada


Jeff Brucculeri, a traffic reporter in Oklahoma, decided to help out those legions of upset voters who, in the wake of their candidate’s loss, have threatened to move to Canada. During his usual traffic report, he helpfully provided them with easy-to-follow directions from Tulsa to the Canadian border. The best part is that you can hear his co-workers cracking up in the background.



South Park pulls an all-nighter for quick turnaround on an election episode


Less than 24 hours after it happened in real life, that lady with the flag in her hair appeared on the Comedy Central cartoon to watch Obama give an acceptance speech. The rest of the episode was a mix of brilliance and total mess, but we were stunned by how quickly the South Park machine turned things out. Bravo, Trey and Matt!



Mike the Cleaner on Parks and Recreation


Jonathan Banks put his comic timing to good use as Ben's terrifying father; how great was that showdown with Ron Swanson over the last piece of shrimp? More Jonathan Banks in everything from now on, please!



WTF



The Voice sucked up three nights of programming on NBC


You know it’s possible to have too much of a good thing, right NBC? And The Voice isn’t even that great of a thing.



Modern Family's Ariel Winter probably wishes Claire Dunphy was her real mom right now


The 14-year-old actress has been "removed from her home" over allegations that her mother's been physically and mentally abusing her.



Saturday Night Live's sign-language mockery


This week's controversial FTWTF entry involves the opening sketch of last week's Louis C.K.-hosted episode of SNL. Louis as Lincoln was great, but I—Tim—think Marlee Matlin was rightfully upset with the show's portrayal of sign language as nothing but freakish hand gestures and pantomimes. Lydia Callis, the signer who became a celeb during Hurricane Sandy for her enthusiastic translation of Mayor Bloomberg's press conferences, was a rock star and deserved attention for her work. But in parodying her, Saturday Night Live treated sign language, WHICH IS A REAL LANGUAGE, like a joke. Is the show going to trot out fake Asians screaming "ching chong ching chong" next? That was just plain rude, SNL!



Last Resort deludes itself and time-jumps all the way to trying too hard


This week, a dose of a military drug called BZ caused everyone on the island to suffer hallucinations and confusion, and the plot unfolded through broken time jumps and featured a lot of crew members acting crazy. Unfortunately, it didn't quite work for the purposes of storytelling or keeping things straight for the audience. The hallucinations were also a bit obvious, giving us no real insight to the characters even though the door to their psyches was wide open.



Breaking Bad gets a limp porn parody


Breaking Bad is great. Porn is great. So shouldn't a combination of the two be AMAZING? Not only did the XXX parody not even change the show's name (why not Banging Bad, or the gay-porn option Breaking Brad?), but I think Jesse is a girl in it and Walt is a filmmaker who starts shooting porn instead of going the obvious route of being a chemistry teacher who starts doing porn to pay for his cancer treatment! We may not even buy the Blu-ray copy of this now. Oh wait it has Lexi Belle? Okay, fine.


What's on *your* list of TV loves and hates this week?

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Why are people saying Last Resort sucked? I thought it was great and I followed ever bit of it with ease. I guess the average audience doesn't like to think. No wonder the show has a 95% chance of being cancelled.
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FTW: Survivor Tribal Council, maybe craziest ever!
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I want a XXX Last Resort. Nothing is sexier than post apocalyptic porn.
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The sheer audacity of American Horror Story: Asylum's Anne Frank plotline = Was Awesome!

The fall of a The Walking Dead warrior whose legacy will live on forever = Great Scene very heart breaking though

Beauty and the Beast was SLIGHTLY more watchable this week = I'll have to watch

Elementary had a really strong episode this week = Love The Show!



Breaking Bad gets a limp porn parody = was actually kind of funny

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Are you kidding me? That SNL sketch was their best cold open in years.
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The last episode of Last Resort is what happens when you have a great story and for whatever reason try to get all cute and gimmicky with it. They smothered the story and left holes in the details big enough to drive a sub through. If I wanted that haphazard kind of storytelling I'd watch 'Revolution'.
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The traffic guy with the route to Canada was funny. Since I live in Winnipeg it was cool to see the shout out from him.
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Soooo, not a great week for TV?

I guess you could solicit suggestions in a Friday article, that way they could be voted on, but it's such a quick turnaround that I'm not sure how much help those responses would be. Never know though.
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WTF: Chelsea Lately mocked sign language too, AND IT WAS AWFUL! But she did it before SNL.
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FTW: The last scene of last week's Walking Dead. Emmys all around, but especially for Andrew Lincoln. One of the most authentic showings of grief I think I've ever scene on TV.



WTF: T-Dog finally getting some lines...and then dying immediately after, albeit heroically.
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Didn't last resort just really try to shine for those who haven't watched it before, after last weeks ratings slightly improved? So thats why there was a lot of repetition, but whatever... as long as it captured some people and we will see a season 2, thats fine
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I'd say just make one of these posts/threads on friday or something, and let us post in the comments. This will mean more work for one of you guys to read through them though, good luck with that!



Price, as for last week's FTW WTF, I've listened to the podcast, and I'm not sure you understood some of the criticism some of us were throwing at you, and I think that's also to do with the idea that you probably only gave a serious look to FF's comment, which also looks like it's becoming a trend on this website. Addressing his comment, isn't addressing the comments of all users.



As far as I'm concerned, you have every right to not like whatever scene/theme you see on a show and talk about it. That's your prerogative. I do however think you didn't express yourself very well, because you, intentionally or not, inferred that said shows were somewhat targeting women for violence. I don't watch NG but as far as AHS is concerned, violence is everywhere and being done to everyone, regardless of sex. Also, I don't quite understand how much violence against women may upset you, because it's the first time you've mentioned it, and AHS's first season had plenty of that too. I was more surprised with your comment, rather than being upset by it. I'm all against violence in general let alone to women, but I think the context in which you wrote your comments was not correct. Still though, do always write what you guys think about stuff. That is afterall, why we're on this site.
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FTW: Lori dies.



WTF: the way Lori dies.

AHS:A: Hold poor ol' Lana's hair back when she's puking please. And put a bullet through poor ol' T-Dog's head man, he's gonna come back as a zombie if you don't. Way to treat a mate!
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Why do people speak about Modern Family episode when the show is cited for something (bad) that happened in -real life-?
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I'm all in in terms of participation, though I would prefer a forum on this site than relying on Twitter.



Anyway, while Last Resort was a little weak this week, Fringe was solid, especially the scene in which Peter modifies and adapts to the tech. The Walking Dead was above and beyond great.



I liked the idea of the doctor in AHS being a former Nazi torturer, but the Anne Frank story-line was over the top. I had hoped they could salvage it by just making the woman out to be insane, but then we run into the problem of the Monsenieur calling the Doc and saying, "They're on to you!". I don't care that it was tasteless, but I just felt it was unbelievable.
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The scene with Peter reminded a little of Neo when he first tries trusting himself and fights the Observer, oops I meant Agent Smith, instead of running.

I'm also in favor of Forums than Twitter. I never use Twitter. Here, in Lithuania, we find the idea of stating things you're doing just for the sake of it rather weird, time consuming and a bit pointless. It never grew on us, and probably never will.
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yeah, it was pretty reminiscent of Neo in The Matrix, but then everything looks like something else, once you come down to it. It was still very cool, and of course we know Peter's in for a world of hurt coming soon.
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It was definitely very very cool :) I was in no way accusing Fringe of copying, just observed a similarity :) They even might have paying an homage
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About the SNL sketch. I think the whole reason this is upsetting to some people is that it has to do with Sandy. If Lydia was signing as such during regular news or something it wouldn't be a problem or at least a lesser one.

Often humor is about something we find 'weird' and different. Americans joke about the British, the British joke about Americans. Westerners find Chinese, Japanese languages funny and laugh. And so on. If something is made fun of, that doesn't mean it's bad or laughable. SNL made fun of Homeland which is a great show by any standards. But when you see that there is something funny about it like the whole Carrie crying face chin, it's ok to laugh. Same with Lydia, she did a great job undoubtedly, but there were funny aspects about it, so SNL pointed them out - that's it.

However, when something is connected to a tragedy (Sandy) it suddenly becomes inappropriate for some reason. Louis CK talked about jokes about 9/11 somewhere (O&A show I think), and how people would get upset about it. He said something like: if you don't like it, fine, don't laugh. But you don't OWN it, that tragedy happened to the whole country, you can't forbid someone to use humor on that subject. It's not yours.

The same principle I think stands here. Whether joking about one's mannerisms is funny or not is subjective, but being offended just because the whole thing is connected to a tragedy isn't necessary. I personally believe there's no such thing as 'too soon'. Tig Notaro came out on the stage days after she was diagnosed with cancer and talked about it full on, joked about it and it was an amazing stand-up - comedy at its best and in its most important form. You should buy the audio of that show on louisck.com, it's just 5$.
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FTW: - Fringe. A serious and strong episode. Seemed like a typical superb mythalone episode: expanded the universe, gave the fans an homage (glyph signs), had at least one good laugh (Walter and his food...), the story was great, John Noble acted his ass off again.

Person of Interest. Reese + Zoe = Zeese?..

The Walking Dead's deaths. Gonna miss the characters (even Lori to some extent), but the episode was great.

IN THE MIDDLE: Last Resort. Episode still good, but worse than previous ones.

WTF: After next episode there will be less than half of the season left for Fringe.
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As far as FTW:WTF participation goes, please no twitter. Or at least provide a non-twitter/non-facebook option. We like it here, don't send us somewhere else!
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Last Resort was terrible this week!



Who won the shrimp fight between Ron & Ben's dad? Will we ever know?!?



I think Person of Intrest was one of the best shows this week, most of the others, felt a bit boring to me, not Walking Dead though, that was awesome, Lori is dead yay - but they could of least put her pants back on......
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I think they later showed Ron eating the shrimp. In my mind there wasn't even a doubt about that fight.
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I just re-watched it, after the shrimp show down they show Ron eating something on a stick, but could that be a shrimp in his plate?



Team Ron!
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The argument that you can't make fun of sign language is a little stupid. SNL HAS in fact made fun of other languages in the a number of skits. The one that springs to mind was SNL Digital Short of the Japanese version of the Office. The entire thing was nothing but racial stereotypes and pokes at the Japanese spoken word. But comedy isn't funny unless someone is crying about it, I guess.
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Major props to Lydia Callis. Her signing was awesome, and she does NOT have an easy job. Really SNL?!? I thought you were better than that
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SNL hasn't been better than that for a very very long time. I occasionaly glance in to see if it's still awful and WTF, it is...
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I still don't have that warm October 19 feeling in my heart. But Whitney is coming back. WTF.
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WTF.

Waste of time
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A surprising FTW for me this week was Modern Family. It was the first time in what seems like a long time that I actually laughed during an episode. And in this one, I laughed three -- YES, THREE -- times! Maybe I was just in a good mood while watching it...

Nikita and Person of Interest were pretty great too.

I have yet to watch this past week's episode of Last Resort, but based on what I've read about it, it sounds crappy.
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Last Resort turned into Terra Nova this week.
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Last Resort was ridiculous. So you drug the entire island only to go after the seals? No you drug the entire Island te retrieve a sub loaded with nukes and you kill everybody involved... Very lame and very disappointing for an otherwise decent show.



I think for all the praise you give Person of Interest it barely makes the FTW column and I would like to correct that. This weeks episode was great and at least worth mentioning considering everything else was pretty worthless.



Get over Modern Family already it SUCKS!!! It had one good season and should have ended then and there. Now it's just a collection of lame ass over acted stereotypes acting to be funny or interesting instead of being funny or interesting.



Arrow...................I want to like it, but the casting and the fact that the dude still uses a bow and arrow kind of makes it difficult to watch.



Elementary isn't quite as much of Sherlock Holmes as it should be... just a no brainer procedural with a very annoying lead.



Can somebody cancel Two and a half men please? If Miley Cyrus is the best thing in the show you just know it's in trouble. Alan as a character has always been pathetic and annoying who was only connected to the show because he was Charlie's brother. No Charlie, no use for Alan. Cancel that shit already.



Beauty and the Beast gets renewed? WTF? And a FTW because of a semi naked dude...??? I guess the Victoria's Secret show that's coming up is going to be a BIG TIME FTW! But then some native americans complained and now they are editing out Karlie Kloss which sucks simply because she's fantastic! Still don't know if they were complaining about the outfit or the fact that there is simply not a native american woman that looks as good as Karlie, but something was offensive and inaccurate. A big time WTF for VS for actually giving in to this nonsense. I heard a couple of circus people and the poodle people were also offended so I'm hoping they can still air something...



Fringe and Supernatural......WTF happended? Two perfect examples of great shows that should have been ended on a high note... It's better to burn out than to fade away...



Dexter regressing... Deb was become a really interesting person and now she's back to being a potty mouth chick. F*!# you writers! Keep Deb interesting because Dexter himself is become a drag..



No matter who reported the news, but the fact that Obama won the election is a big time FTW across the globe.... The other guy was a moron. People explained he was a mormon, but after they explained mormon I came to the conclusion that moron was pretty darn accurate. So big time FTW there USA!!
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Oh, they were going after the Seals? Who did the drugging? I was as confused as could be by that episode. I was waiting for Tim to review it so I could find out what happened, but I guess he didn't know either, cause he didn't review it this week.
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Specifically, they are trying to retrieve something that the SEALs recovered. Had they had the opportunity to either capture or scuttle the sub, they would have, but it got out to sea in time.
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Thank you. Do you know what they, whomever they were, were trying to retrieve?
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Let it out, let it out. There you go, does it feel better now?
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LMAO. And they say e-text is a poor medium for communicating emotion. I feel you, loud and clear.
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In some cases it doesn't work though. How many I tried writing potato - potato in text ... It just doesn't work.
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FTW: Person of Interest: Best episode since the two-part season opener. Maybe it was the inclusion of some flashbacks.



WTF: The punditocracy's attempts to minimize Nate Silver's election predictions just to make the race more of a squeeker. All the talk of what the Republicans need to do to stay viable rather than what we as a country are going to do about voter suppression and voting machines.
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I might do the Twitter thing, yeah.
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WTF I want to punch Elementary as a show in the face. And the square referencing Irene Adler mad me even more enraged.......
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NO NO No. Last Resort was amazing!! simplying amazing!
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But confusing. Everybody drank the water at the same time? Nobody wasn't thirsty, drank bottled water, or bottled something other than water? The guy who dosed the water didn't warn his own men? Doesn't the sub have its own water supply?
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Well they don't stay on the sub all the time. They do rotations on and off the sub. I doubt there would be any bottled water. Like the merchant said the sub put a blockage on the island so no goods are coming and out. I am not a fan of storylines jumping around but I really loved it this time. It was fun to try and figure out was real and what was fake. I liked it. Doesn't deserve to be on the WTF list at all.
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FTWs (only because it's roses all the way): I take Treme for granted (there's no competition for most underrated show on tv) but even at its most listless it's compelling viewing and the music is sensational. This week's episode just had one great moment after another (including awesome celebrity cameos!)

Modern Family's episode was very good this week, getting as close as this series will ever get to a something-really-serious-happens-to-a-character-that-will-force-everyone-to-stop-being-so-perky-for-once plot.. And any episode where Phil show's his more mature side is welcome.

Law & Order: SVU has been really good this year! Like the best for at least three or four seasons! I'm shocked because I thought it was dying and wasn't a fan of the post-Stabler freshman run last season but every episode this year so far has been incredible. Fingers crossed they keep it up.



I could have just as easily gravitated to the TWD, AHS:A, Dex, Fri, etc.
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i think the last resort was great. And about "real insights to the characters" or whatever, you can only put too much in one episode.
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Could you explain it to me then? I love the show generally, but it lost me this week, really early on I think, and I have no idea what happened.
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Hey, even I understood what happened and I can barely keep the characters names straight, so in brief:

Island's drug lord, surprisingly drugs everyone on the island.

Everyone starts acting wierd because they've been drugged.

A team from Delta Force killed the two SEAL's that never spoke and then tortured the injured one to try and find something important.

The sub was almost sunk, after the drugged crew couldn't deal with a fire.

Some mysterious "helper" turned the subs life support back on just in time, the Captain may have seen who the helper was but was to busy hallucinating about his kid to remember.

Oh, and the "helper" also stole the Captain's nuclear launch key.

On the island the Delta's try to get to communictaions tower working, but are killed by the only SEAL with working vocal chords and the XO.

The XO keeps hallucinating about his wife, who he thinks has left him for the sleaze lawyer\government spy.

During one of the hallucinations the XO makes out with the french girl, who really has the hots for the XO.

Also turns out Pakistan may have got nuked because instead of getting someone out of Pakistan the SEAL's shot them instead.





And that's what you missed on Last Resort
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You know I remember every last bit of that, except the drug lord being the one who drugged everyone. I guess it just didn't make sense to me the way the story was told. Thank you for helping me out.
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I would be totally down with participating in a forum on the site, but not Twitter. I think if such a Reader Forum could begin running a poll at week's start that readers could build and vote upon, and by publish time run a FTW/WTF of readers vs. what the writers' FTW/WTF, perhaps with highlights of some of the best comments from the forum on the highest voted or most interesting items with commentary from writers on both the readers' choices and their own.



For instance, my big running WTF are the stream of comments on the "Claire Danes cry-face." Seriously, cut an award winning actress some slack; who looks pretty when they cry?
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I agree. I don't tweet and I don't facebook. I do come to this site and would like the form to be here.
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In fairness it's not like it's not like south park has brilliant animation, it looks like it's made by second graders. Which is fine for a animated comedy, but I don't think it's all that impressive when they make a scene in one day.
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Totally agree about no more election ads and too much of The Voice. And remember, SNL's translation parody goes back to the Not Ready for Prime Time Players when Garrett Morris would repeat what the speaker just said in a louder voice for the hearing impaired.
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So, it's okay to make fun of SOME groups of people, and SOME individual people, but never ever make fun of deaf people because... um, why is that, again?
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Don't ask me. I'm an overweight, white, southern Christian woman over 50. I hit all the groups people make fun of.
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Have you seen the full Breaking Bad porn parody, or are you just judging it by its covers/trailer? Because I don't think it's fair to put something as WTF if you haven't actually seen it.

You're right about the Last Resort time jump format. It was absolutely unnecessary. It's good if it makes the plot interesting, but it becomes just a gimmick if it doesn't work. They displayed the text "3 hours after the attack" several times during the episode which really did not help in figuring out the time line. I had to watch the episode twice to figure out how the whole thing finally played out.

I think it's a good idea to get suggestions for the FTW/WTF list from readers. The ideas they have in the comments are often super funny. But the only way to get people to contribute is to make it as simple as possible, at least if you want to have many suggestions. Sending a message to you is so personal in a way that I think people will put pressure on themselves when it comes to quality of content, and not send anything to you at all. Forums? To me it seems like a lot of casual users are not even aware of the forums and all that is going on there. The discussions there are really stalled, so I doubt people would separately move there to give suggestions. Having a "suggestions article" would be the simple solution, people could just give ideas in its comment section. The interaction between people in the comment section might even bring out better ideas. But an article like that also has its downsides. It should collect ideas during the whole week. If it's put up every Monday, it'll disappear quickly during the week among other articles. And when you start reading the suggestions in its comments section on Sunday (?) to select the best ones, it'll only have a few dealing with the first shows of the week. The article would have to be pinned on the front page so that it can be seen throughout the week. I don't really know a best solution for this one. The Open Caption competition always got a healthy amount of suggestions when it was put up every day. What if a similar FTW/WTF suggestions article was put up every day, and people would get to pour their hearts out on it about the shows from the previous evening? Would that work? Then the ideas could be compiled at the end of the week when you're writing the actual FTW vs. WTF.
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FTW:

- GARTH in last week's ep of SPN! Seriously I need more Garth in more eps!

- The CW smartening up by switching Nikita and ANTM's timeslots. It's a step in the right direction but it's still on Friday. I'd prefer the network moving Nikita behind Arrow on Wednesdays, moving SPN behind TVD and dumping BATB on Fridays.



WTF:

- The stinking renewal of BATB.
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FTW: Arrow!



WTF: Price's article on the 54 hottest people on TV at 11:08am!
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FTW: Nikita, Person of Interest



WTF: Last Resort. That last episode just an annoting waste, expecially after the really good episode that preceeded it.
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Amanda in Nikita has a similar death stare as Victoria Grayson in Revenge. When I watched the episode of Nikita I thought that those two ladies should have a similar face-off as Freddy and Jason, or Predator and Alien.
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WTF of the Week: Full season pickups for Chicago Hope and Beauty and the Beast.

FTW: Price making animated GIFs of the Beast.
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Chicago Hope has been dead for quite some time. Did you mean Chicago Fire?
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Doc, you're absolutely right (my bad), although now that you mention it, maybe it was a Freudian thing? Chicago Fire's pretty dead too.
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I have to disagree with you. I thought Last Resort was great.

FTW:

Last Resort, AHS, SNL

WTF: the voice, two horrible shows getting renewed
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I agree about Last Resort. It's a wonderful show, but this episode was obviously a filler, and a confusing one at that. I'm having trouble keeping some of the cast straight anyway, as far as which ones are the seals, and this certainly didn't help.
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Sure it helped. After this episode, there's only two SEALs left alive. That's 1/3 of the number from the pilot.
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Thank you. I lost count. I really had a hard time with this episode. If it had been a class in school, I would have gotten an F-
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FTW- Fringe's dark turn of this week, Peter is becoming Peterminator!
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FTW - The return of Garth in Supernatural, especially him trying to act like Bobby.

WTF - Sam on Supernatural, his stupidly boring flashbacks, and his ridiculous arguing and bickering with Dean....just make it stop, ruined what was nearly turning into an old-school good episode.
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I'd also include Amelia in WTF along with Sam but she's so irrating!
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i agree just end the sam and dean arguing thing and get back to the great episodes of the past



ps loved seeing Garth back bring him on full time
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If you think that the SNL sketch was making fun of sign language, you really missed the point. As did Marlee Matlin.
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FTW: (YMMV on this one) Obama winning a second term.
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Did you NOT see the "No more election ads" FTW? WTF?
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