Game of Thrones: Grinding Away

Game of Thrones S02E06: "The Old Gods and the New"

Last week was all about war, but this week there was hardly a peep about a battle that will decrease the population of Westeros by 40 percent. That's the difference between adapting a huge book into a huge television series versus adapting a huge book into a really long movie. With ten installments spread out over ten weeks, keeping the hours thematically similar is much more important in telling the story. That's true for all of television, but it's a shame that the dark cloud of war that's so important to A Clash of Kings can't be present each week.

I wonder what a ten-hour movie of Season 2 would look like compared to a ten-episode television series. Game of Thrones is such a great show to marathon on DVD that part of me thinks the series could get away with structuring itself as a ten-hour film instead of as ten one-hour bits that need to share themes and end on a tantalizing cliffhanger. Just a thought. I'd watch a ten-hour Game of Thrones movie.

Instead, "The Old Gods and the New" put war on the back burner and dabbled in relationships, particularly those of Westeros's two most eligible bachelors, Robb Stark and Jon Snow. But there were also big changes in existing relationships. Robb and Theon are the opposite of BFFs, Sansa and The Hound have a new respect for each other, and even Arya and Tywin had an interesting chat. One of the most exciting things about Game of Thrones is watching characters you'd never think would have a connection spend time with each other and react in ways you never expected.

As is the case with real life, interactions with different people bring out different sides of a character, and Game of Thrones nails this concept. Who do you want to see share a scene? Think about that while we catch up on what happened in "The Old Gods And the New."


"It grieves me that you have less honor than a back-alley whore."

Hey Game of Thrones, how about at least letting us settle into the couch before you blow our minds?! For the second week in a row, an episode only made it about ten seconds before something crazy happened. Last week it was Renly getting skewered by a shadow-sassin, this week it was Winterfell falling to Theon Greyjoy.

Wait a sec: Winterfell, our cherished home? The impenetrable fortress of Ned Stark? The place we practically grew up in? It's... fallen? To Theon Greyjoy? I know I'm a paid writer and stuff, but all I can really think to say is, "What an asshole!" I actually liked Theon in the books, but that's because I never pictured him doing that thing where he looks off to the left and puts his hands on his hips like he's Captain Morgan or something. The guy is all ego and barnacles.

So Theon's plan to distract the Winterfell guard so they'd leave—which he did by attacking a neighboring township—worked to perfection. You probably want to blame Bran because he gave the order to send the men, but nuh-uh, this is all on Theon. The irony is that he's doing all this because his daddy and family didn't love him enough, and it's coming at the cost of the foster family that raised him and loved him. Most ungrateful long-term castleguest ever!

But Theon's second stay at Winterfell might be short-lived. As with all Greyjoy plans, this one was only thought out partway through. I don't know if you've ever played the excellent computer game series Civilization, but Theon's conquest of Winterfell was like when you have one phalanx left to move into a city you just beat. In other words, he's going to be the shortest reigning Prince of Winterfell of all time as soon as a few enemies show up. Theon told Maester Llewyn to send a raven to his sister asking for backup, but how confident are we that the old man will obey?

I'm going to sound like a total dork when I say this, but hey I'm drinking Budweiser and eating Pringles straight out of the can so it can't get much worse: I consider the fall of Winterfell the death of a character. Or at least some brutal molestation of a character, depending on how things turn out. Even if Winterfell is retaken, it will still have that gross dirty ocean smell of the Greyjoys. Winterfell was more than stones and stone-glue, it was a home to the Starks, who as of this moment are still the good guys. Winterfell is/was a beacon of honor and duty; Ned Stark's spirit roams its halls, but he's too kind to rattle his chains because he doesn't want to wake anyone up.

If you don't consider Winterfell a character, you'll at least consider Ser Rodrick Whiskertie a character. The feisty Master-at-Arms of Winterfell was defiant until the end, hocking a loogie into Theon's face. Theon was told he'd never earn any respect if he let that slip unpunished, so now Winterfell's head of security is just "of security." It did take almost a half-dozen thwacks and a kick of the boot to get Rodrick's head off, though. Hey Theon, if you're going to be cutting people's heads off, you might want to sign up for a gym membership.

Osha might wear a smock made of soil and twigs, but she's no dummy. Those Wildlings are survivors, and she used her womanly protrusions and indentations to craft a pretty sly plan. She humped Theon into a deep sleep, fake-flirted a guard into a defenseless stance so she could stab his face, and then made sure Bran, Rickon, Hodor, and the direwolves escaped. But where are a female Pig Pen, a nut-crushing infant, a crippled boy, an oaf, and a couple of pups going to go?


"Wild creatures have their own rules, their own reasons. You'll never know them."

Jon was trudging along the Frostfangs with Qhorin Halfhand and their band of not-so-merry men looking for Wildlings. Qhorin gave him a quick life lesson about wild creatures, saying they can't be tamed or trusted. We call that foreshadowing. But oh, what wild heart might Jon not be able to tame?

I really liked Qhorin's hazing of Jon about their notoriety as members of the Night's Watch. He set Jon up to say he was doing something noble and that sacrificing his life was the best thing he could do for Westeros, then he slapped him with the truth: You're just a no-named grunt who no one will remember, but as long as you're alive, that means the threats from the North aren't heading south and you're doing your job like a champ. That's how Qhorin Halfhand sees it. Gotta love Qhorin.

They came upon a Wildling camp and did that sneaky thing where you try not to be seen and got the jump on the wildlings. It was a total slaughter until Jon tackled his Wildling instead of slicing it in half, and of course "it" turned out to be a girl. And not just any girl, a cute redhead! I think we know where this is going, eh? Ygritte's her name, and she was very keen on making sure that any dead bodies were burned because the dead up here have a tendency to get up and start walking again.

Qhorin left Jon to kill her, and I think we all knew where this was going, riiiight? He couldn't kill her, she ran for it like a snow leopard, and it took a sweet sliding-tackle takedown to bowl her over. But it was too late, they'd strayed too far from Jon's buddies and they were on their own. I guess? I didn't think they ran that far, but whatever. Jon tied Ygritte up (kinky) and took her prisoner, but it got late and they had to go to sleep for the night. I think we all knew where this was going, ya? She certainly did, because she was grinding on him like an extra in a 2 Live Crew video. I know a lot of you ladies out there are Jon Snow fans, and all I can say is, sorry. Serves you right for falling in love with a fake person in a land far, far away.


"You are promised to another, a debt that must be paid."

Speaking of Stark boys getting bit by the love bug, Robb did some big-time medieval flirting with Tilessa ("You're a spy preparing to have me killed by the Lannisters! *wink wink*" "I'm not a spy, tee hee!"). This is an open-and-shut case, folks. Robb and Tilessa are obviously going to get together, unless she actually IS a spy sent to infiltrate the camp through Robb's heart.

Catelyn figured out what Robb's groin was up to and found it cute, but also knew that he better keep it in the pants or all the political moves she made would be ruined. Robb is still betrothed to one of Walder Frey's butt-ugly children, he can't be shacking up with much hotter foreign girls! (Though who can blame him?)

But Robb's boner got killed with news from Winterfell: The castle had been taken and Theon had killed Rodrick. This is how friendships end, people. Do not go into your friend's house, eat all his food, and kill his dog while he's away on a business trip. Robb now wants Theon head, and I hope he gets it.


"It is my belief that a moment of chaos affords opportunity soon after."

You don't really get a sense of how stupid people are until Tywin Lannister is in the room, and he was plenty frustrated with his Knights of the Idiot Table, who mixed up their Reply Alls and BCCs and CCs which resulted in sending the wrong information to the wrong people. Oops! It's hard to find good help in any day and age, it appears.

Well look who showed up in Harrenhal! Lord Petyr "Littlefinger" Baelish, who's been putting serious miles on his frequent horsie rider card. Who makes sure the whores back at the Pimp Palace are properly "playing with her ass!" while he's away? When you pay good money for a whorehouse, you expect a certain level of quality. Hopefully Petyr has a good intern, I'm sure plenty of people lined up for that gig.

Littlefinger had a proposal for Tywin: Join the houses of the Lannisters and the Tyrells (Ser Loras "The Knight of Flowers," a.k.a. Renly's lover, and Margaery) to form a supergroup. They have enough men to squash Stannis, and if Tywin is still upset about them joining Renly (for a moment) he can punish them later. That Littlefinger! Is there anything he can't do? Watch out for this dude!

Arya, you especially! But when she and Littlefinger were playing their game of hide-and-seek out in the open, she blew her cover by being a butterfingers and spilling wine all over him. He didn't do anything about it right then, but how will he use this information—knowing where the missing Stark child is—to his advantage? It would be a pretty good way to get on Catelyn's good side if he could tell her.

I'm not going to say that Arya stealing notes from Tywin's table was a good idea, but she did, and of course it caused trouble when one of Tywin's dim-witted men found her with it. The guard was all ready to take the note back to Tywin and bust Arya, so she cashed in assassination number two with Jaqen H'ghar, who made quick work of it just in the nick of time. So far, we haven't seen how he's making these kills. Is he just a sneaky rogue or is there something bigger at work here? Is he having shadow babies in the corner? Can men have shadow babies? I wouldn't be surprised, given how weird this world is. Now Arya has one more murder in her pocket, and maybe if we all shout "Joffrey" loud enough, she'll hear us.


"Forgive me my little princess, but I cannot make an investment based on wishes and dreams!"

Listen, I love Dany just as much as the next nerd with a dragon fetish. But her adventures in Qarth so far have been pretty boring. It's like following someone on a bunch of sales pitch meetings. "Give me ships! I'm a queen! I'll pay you back when I'm famous!" Many a businessman has heard the same spiel from wannabe rappers. Dany, you're going to have to do what most of today's pop stars did and sleep with someone rich to get your way. At least she looked good when she was begging the spice king for dollars. Does someone have a Tumblr for Qarth fashion yet?

Later, Xaro was telling us AGAIN about how he came from nothing (braggart) to be the richest man in Qarth, when he and Dany came upon the bodies of Dany's entourage. They'd been slaughtered and her dragons stolen! Cut to a guy with her dragons on his back walking up a bunch of stairs to an ominous looking tower. If that creepy self-duplicating Pyat Pree isn't behind this, I'll eat my hat.


"We've had vicious kings, and we've had idiot kings, but I don't know that we've been cursed with a vicious idiot boy king!"

The King's Landing stuff was, by far, my favorite portion of this episode (aside from Rodrick's beheading, what can I say, I love a good old-fashioned beheading). The first thing we saw was poor Myrcella, Cersei's only daughter, being boated off to Dorne to marry some guy she doesn't know. I know Myrcella is pretty innocent, but HAHA CERSEI! Naturally, mama was upset and threatened to take Tyrion's love away from him if he ever finds one. Now Tyrion has all the more reason to keep Shae out of sight. Cersei would have her fileted.

On the way back to their palatial estate, the Lannisters ran into the Occupy King's Landing movement, and there isn't a sweeter sound than that of Joffrey getting hit in the face with a pile of poo! The Lannisters' grip on the city had begun to slip, and it was riotin' time! However, I've never been to a riot where a guy literally gets ripped apart by protesters who hold his severed arm aloft like a trophy.

Once Tyrion and Joffrey were out of harm's way they had a fantastic scene, and Joffrey extended his lead in the race to become the most slapped man in Westeros, taking a solid, well-deserved palm from Tyrion. That guy gets slapped more than I did in college. But how long can Tyrion continue to treat Joffrey like that before Joffrey gives the order to make Tyrion a head shorter?

In the chaos, Sansa got separated from the guards. In a show with plenty of beheadings, disembowelings, and horse murders, the attempted rape of Sansa stands out as most uncomfortable scene yet, in my book. Poor Sophie Turner is going to need therapy after filming it, but credit to her, she looked positively horrified. But then... RELEASE THE HOUND! Sandor "The Hound" Clegane is such a fascinating character. On one side, he's Joffrey's dog who does the kid's bidding. He killed Arya's friend as he was ordered, but he also saved Ser Loras against Gregor "The Mountain" Clegane. And tonight he showed up like Batman to save Sansa and pulled off the very difficult throat-grab-disemboweling-in-the-air maneuver before calmly saying, "You're all right now, little bird, you're all right." Wow. "You're all right now, little bird, you're all right" is the new "That'll do, pig."


Random Thoughts

– What do you think of The Hound?

– Where the eff is Jaime Lannister? I miss that guy!

– Which two characters who haven't shared a scene would you like to see interact?


GIF of the Week!
The Joffrey double punk!



Game of Thrones Season 2 Power Rankings

I'll be ordering the ten episodes of Game of Thrones' second season from first to worst in terms of quality. But remember, these rankings are just, like, my opinion, man.

This Week: Another solid episode of Game of Thrones that doesn't particularly stand out as one of its best but certainly wasn't one of its weaker efforts. A guy got his arm ripped off by regular city folk, for crying out loud! That was awesome. But the Dany story is in a holding pattern and the Jon story forced the pairing of Ygritte and Jon for grinding time. But a guy got his arm ripped off! This goes right in the middle of the pack.

1. "Garden of Bones" (Episode 4)
Joffrey entertains a few ladies by having them beat each other; Melisandre gives birth to the Smoke Monster from Lost; Dany meets a bunch of salesmen from Qarth.

2. "The Ghost of Harrenhal" (Episode 5)
Shadow Baby gives Renly a big hug, wildfire wildfire wildfire!, Theon sets out for the North, and Arya's new friend does her bidding.

3. "The North Remembers" (Episode 1)
Annnnd we're back! Joffrey orders death for Robert's bastards; Melisandre, Davos, and Stannis make their grand entrance; Robb sends an all tomato ultimatum to the Lannisters.

4. "The Old Gods and The New" (Episode 6)
Jon Snow meets a hot redhead in the snow, the people of King's Landing rebel, and Winterfell falls to Theon.

5. "The Night Lands" (Episode 2)
The Goldcloaks set out to find Gendry (and Arya); Theon gropes his sister and disappoints his dad; Jon sees something strange in the forest.

6. "What Is Dead May Never Die" (Episode 3)
Theon suits up for Team Greyjoy; Tyrion gives Pycelle the boot; Cat arrives to see Renly assembling a circus; Arya and Gendry get captured.


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I always have a hard time telling Jon Snow and Rob Stark apart.
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So it just occurred to me, maybe just maybe the Reeds could still be in...if the come to Winterfell with Yara/Asha who is in Deepwood Mote as the episode says.
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What episode did "The Hound" save Ser Loras against "The Mountain"? Trying to think and I can't remember.
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During a jousting match in season 1. Ser Loras knocked The Mountain from his horse. The Mountain decided a good ole beheading was in store for his horse, and then went after Ser Loras. The Hound stepped in to save Ser Loras before King Robert called an end to the whole thing.

I know I'm a little late on this answer (like 2 years late), but maybe you were still wondering.
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And Come ON where was "You know nothing Jon Snow?!?!?" Anyone else mad that didn't make it in there?

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YES!!!! Totally mad!!! This is one line from the books that is as important to me as "Just So" or even "Winter is Coming". I love that line it suck that it was not there, I hope they still do it.
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SHE SAID IT LAST NIGH!!!
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Meh I love the show but the deviations are starting to get on my nerves. At first they were explanatory, extra scenes, now however they've completely changed scenes. That's starting to wear on me.
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i would love to see Cat and Cersei really have a go at eachother, loyal, commanding mother up against the worlds biggest bitch! it would be like Molly Weasley and Bellatrix in Harry Potter!
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GoT is really more of a mini-series than a regular series.
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jon's chance meeting in the mountains and the attempted rape were all elements written into the second book, like pretty much everything else. it felt forced but was preordained. I have a feeling its hard to portray, all the subtext so easily written into a book, on television.
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"If that creepy self-duplicating Pyat Pree isn't behind this, I'll eat my hat"



do we know he's not just a twin???
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yes, we know the warlock is not a twin.
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hahahaha .. the gif of the week ... awesome!!



1) Tyrion and Arya are my favourite characters, but the Hound is coming up fast. I wouldn't be surprised if he risks his life trying to get Sansa to escape before the end of the season.

2) Jamie should be back soon enough.

3) Robb and Joffrey .. please!! It will only last a few seconds before that little sh*t gets impaled, but it would be worth it.
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1. Hound is a little softy inside.

2. I guess Jamie's prominent role will begin after season 2 (or say near the end of season 2) if you judge by the books. So, hold your breath until next season.

3. Tyrion vs. Dany OR Melisandre vs. Jon Snow
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I know who I don't want to see share a scene. Lord Frey and Craster.
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I want to see how Arya reacts when she learns her mother promised her to Frey's son.



Gendry's reaction too, if possible!
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I'd like to see Dany with Jon Snow ;)
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Is it just me or does anybody else think that Tyrion would be best fit for the iron throne? I mean generally I'm team Dany of course, but she's so far away and she has to find the dragons and stuff so for the time being it would be best for the people to have Tyrion as their king, dont you think so?
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I would like to see Hodor and Sam having a nice talk about girls.
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- The hound is awesome! I think it's cute that he has a crush on Sansa!

- I miss Jamie too, he's my comic relief! I definitely think we will see him soon

- I would want to see Melisandre and Danny interact and would want to know if Melisandre will still believe that Stannis is the ONE...



Its exciting for me as a book reader this week since I am totally in the dark as to what will happen next in regards to Petyr. GoT has increased his scenes & role considerable! Now that he knows where Arya is, not sure how that will affect his actions

Here's to hoping Ygritte will warm up John Snow enough that his scenes are less bland! LMAO
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p/s/s forgive my speling and grammer
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p.s. I've decided to only read the book after each season has ended. Anyway, why is everyone so hard on Snow? I think he's just developing into someone who wil break apart the Night's watch than building it back up in a new form. He will be leading the fight against the white walkers while the seven kingdoms battle it out and god save them all if Snow manages to create his own "kingdom" with the wildings behind him. Would he pas that power on to one of his brothers or maybe he would decide that he's had enough of the seven kindoms back-stabbing egos and decide he'll just unite the north and south and be done with all of it. can't wait to see his plot develop.
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I guess "everyone" - seriously, I've only read two comments, at most - is so hard on Jon Snow because the Night's Watch is the closest thing to Catholic priests in terms of celibacy vows. And he has just fail for a girl. Not so Night's Watchy/ish to me.



I mean, at least Gendry had still not taken his vows when Arya happened.
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thus, the breaking and re-making of the Nights Watch theory of mine. But I have no clue.
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Then again, the vows have a point: not to have love ones to miss - or to follow to Harrenhal - when there are white walkers at the door.



The Watch doesn't need more leaders, it needs more manpower. And prisoners like Jaqen H'ghar are not the answer.
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why does everyone think the Daenerys plot is a sleeper? Radiohead said it best "Everything in its right place." She's just developing into a leader al you battle addicts crave for. First she got power, now she is learning that it takes more blood and god given rights to be a real ruler and not a spoled brat with power. Imagine if her story was not "dull" and she just went, did a little fighting and got her army and set off for the seven kingdoms? The caos has not developed enough in the seven kingdoms. It is still possible for them to united again when a common foe arrives and there goes all your exciting back stabing battles. But, if the caos continues long enough and Daenerys finally arrives than there will be no possibility of uniting to fight her. And remember, she knows little about the white walkers, so when they are thrown in the mix you'll have even more caos because she won't see a need to unite to deal with them, they'll just be another army to fight and she has dragons so why should she worry about white walkers anyway/ no way to unite, enemies within and on both sides, now that sounds like the sort of battles I'd like to see.
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Seriously, one comment or two does not "everyone" make. And I don't see how the dragons kidnapping could be seen as a "sleeper" in any way or form
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I actually find John Snow and Danny scenes pretty boring so far



pretty much all the other characters are much more interesting



I find more interest in scenes of Sansa, Tywin, Arya,Joffrey



but I especially love Tyrone and Rob scenes



and I would love to see them meet and maybe find an alternative to war



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It's maester LUWIN not Llewyn!!
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Tim, your reviews are absolutely hilarious and really fun to read



but please and I repeat please, don't talk about something that "might" happen in the future. Since you read the books, everything you'll say about what might happen or who might did this (like when you mentioned Pyat Pree and the dragons) will sound like the ultimate spoiler, even if they are obvious to the viewer.



I hope you read this and consider it in your future reviews, thank you and keep up the amazing work.
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All of Dany's travels in the East sort of bored me when reading the books. The Khal Drogo saga was fun because Drogo was such a badass, but Dany trying to get an army and other adventures put me to sleep. She ceased to be as exciting or dynamic of a character. Emilia Clarke really looks gorgeous though in her new outfit.

A thing I really love about the books is how even the bad guys are sympathetic to a point. Except for Theon and Joffrey-bad seeds, those.

But for most of the Lannisters you get to see their motivations and why they are the way they are.

Viserys was turned into the snake he was through such terrible misfortune (your family gets slaughtered, throne taken away, you're forced into exile and poverty and have to raise your baby sister by yourself, while still trying to figure out how to retake the throne).

Littlefinger has more angles than a 20-sided die.

The Hound usually just follows orders, but he hates his brother and tries to protect Sansa to an extent.

These are real people whose fears, paranoia, desires, shame is amplified and magnified by the harsh world they live in.
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What the heck happened to Benjen Stark??
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Where the heck IS Benjen Stark?
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Dude, you are so funny. Loved the review
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Best .gif ever.
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Uh, the dude collapsed with a poison dart in the back of his neck. Also it's pretty obvious The Tickler was pushed, since Jaquen was there when Arya looked up (eating Tickler's pear?)



And it wasn't just a 'guard', it was Amory Lorch, one of Tywin's captains.



"So far, we haven't seen how he's making these kills. "
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After this episode is more clear that Dany is becoming a spolied child reminecent of her brother, shes just a shadow of the power character she was on season 1. And please if youre going to cut content from the books (havent read them) i hope you just have a powerful reason to keep Jon Snow on TV, of all his story only his uncle (awol) and commander mormont are interesting characters (Jorah is my favorite one in the show with Hghar gaining fast). And please bring Jaime back!! if only to see him cause mischief and killing grunts without messing his hair.
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And Jaime's still got some trouble to cause too, but his imprisonment by Robb is necessary to the plot at this point. Patience, grasshopper.
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Oh, I would say Jon Snow has some interesting plots coming up.
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i will say just this. 10 episode per season is a great injustice. why do they skip so much stuff, why can't they split the book into 2 seasons if its to much for 10. every week i find myself going "how did we end up here and what ever happened to that".



but i guess i am the only one to blame :p shouldn't have gone and read the books lol
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This show just keeps getting better every single week. This season has been better than the first in my opinion. As for your questions, I am usually indifferent to the Hound. I haven't really cared about him, but I couldn't help but like him when he rescued Sansa. I don't miss Jaime at all. I don't care about his character. I want to see Daenerys and Melisandre have a scene. I know it won't happen, as Dany is practically on a different planet from the rest of the characters, but I'd still like to see that.
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That GIF is GOLD! *rofl* I agree with Dany plot line being too slow. Guess it will jump into overdrive in the coming eps. Only 4 - FOUR - left. Argh!!!
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This was an awesome episode and it was great to see all the character development. I am frustrated that Dany is finding it difficult to get what she wants and I couldn't believe what happened to her people and Dragons. Someone will burn and bleed for that!

This episode made me view the Hound in a different light as he rescued Sansa in the nick of time!

I love how Tyrion slaps Joffrey and gets away with it!

The scene with Bran and his closest allies and the Dire Wolves leaving was a beautiful scene that seemed full of magic some how.

It was kind of sad to see Theon systematically losing himself and diving ever deeper into the darkness.

I can't get enough of this show, and maybe they should consider the movie format like "The 10th Kingdom" I'd definitely watch it that way and maybe they could get more out of the source material. I can't wait to see what happens next!
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- The Hound is the f**** TERMINATOR!!! Seriously, since the departure of Khal Drogo I can't imagine anyone besting him including Brienne.

- I don't miss Jaime. It seems only Cersei and TIM SURETTE are missing him.

- Tyrion and Melisandre ...

Is anyone else having micro depressions at the end of the episodes?
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I have them too (micro depressions). It's like: noooooo, I've to wait a WHOLE WEEK for another episode. GoT is just soo good! So yeah, very depressing when an episode ends.
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The Hound has always been sort of a "good" character throughout the show. If you watch closely he definitely has a soft spot for Sansa (I know in the books they have a bigger relationship). In the episode where Joffrey has Sansa beaten in the throne room, The Hound was the one who throws his cloak around her. He usually does good deeds if he can help it (saving Loras), but he will do as he is told when ordered to (like killing the Butcher's Boy).
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He also stopped Sansa from from throwing Joffrey of a bridge after he presented her dads and maidens heads displayed on sticks. More for her safety I presumed at the end of season 1.
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Unfortunately I misreads your comment as "...her dad and maidenhead displayed on sticks." Off to scrub my brain now.
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I love Sandor!! Big fan of him in the books and was really getting POed about him not getting more time on screen. I literally died when he called her "little bird" so happy they gave us a shout out there :))) Don't miss Jamie and I'd love to see Arya and Tyrion in some scenes lol idk why but I think they'd click...anyone else gonna miss Jaqen?
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You literally died?
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She was grinding on him like an extra in a 2 Live Crew video...That is Funny!!!!
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"Arya has one more murder in her pocket, and maybe if we all shout "Joffrey" loud enough, she'll hear us." - Now that's funny, right there
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POSSIBLE SPOILER!



Someone please tell me where are the reed siblings? Aren't they supposed to be here by now,who will teach bran all those things? If they write off those characters i will be pissed!
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They're not going to show up. Bran's been saying their lines the last couple episodes and has his own "green dreams".
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I haven't read the books. But this recap is full of spoilers of upcoming episodes. WTF???
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Also, pretty much all the "spoilers" aren't really. Most of what the reviewer opines about the future doesn't happen in the books...
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The show has now moved enough away from the books that you can't count on anything that's been said being a spoiler. Those of us who have read the books are now in the dark just like you. So relax!
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Which "important" thing is actually different than in the series (besides the dragon-kidnapping)? Most of the things are imho minor adaptations to straighten up the storyline: Talisa replacing Jeyne. Arya being cupbearer for Tywin. Rodrik being killed by Theon. None of these strike me as being a major change to the storyline.

The fact that Dany's dragons were abducted is not going to be very significant on the long run I guess (there just needed to be some action in Qarth).
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Lmao at the gif of the week! *thumbs up*
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I would love to see jon snow and daenerys 'interact' they would be the ultimate power couple haha
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Jon Snow so far has bored me compared to other people on the show, men and women. He always has the same expression on his face, and is dull and slow and worse, belligerent. I know, lots of people like him coz he's cute, and I like pretty boys myself (Dean, Damon, etc.) but Snow comes across as DULL - which isn't the same thing as 'being a nice guy'. I don't know if it's the actor or what. He's singularly unimpressive. Compare him to the kids playing Arya, or even Bran (who was spectacular in this ep) - Jon Snow lacks the 'spark'.
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Yeah that's true he has been portrayed as very blah but hopefully now that he's with the wildlings he'll get a better story ark and add more depth to his character :)
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I totally agree! I always imagined him more likeable or something, maybe its the actor or the writers/directors? But he does come off as bland/dull...

On the other hand, Robb is much, much, more likeable than in the books! Love him on the TV show!
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Jon Snow doesn't lack "spark", but the storyline is a "slow burn". The threat coming out of the North Beyond the Wall is one that the southerners don't even really believe in, and I think that when it finally emerges, it will be a shock not only to the whole of Westeros, but to us observers as well. And the boredom of the Night's Watch is, after all, one of its defining characteristics and why the rest of the world forgets about them. But Winter. Is. Coming.
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There's always the recurring joke that while everything else is happening, Jon Snow is still stuck in a bland white background, left out of everything. That really is not that far from the truth. The problem is that there really isn't anything out there up North past the Wall, just snow and wildlings. The other characters have been in different locations, environments and have tons of interactions with people. Its still good to see what's going on up North, but I agree that it's relatively dull. I feel bad for Jon Snow if anything.
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I can't say I enjoy what they're doing with Tywin Lannister's character in the TV series. He is not as 'scary / badass' as was described in the books... They could've made Season 2 a 15 episode season with all the stuff that needs to happen. I would've watched that 15 hour movie!

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I haven't read the second book yet, so I don't know how they describe him. But his scenes with Arya are actually some of my favorite on the show.
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Arya isn't cupbearer for Tywin in the books. Although she does work as a cupbearer for another character during her time at Harrenhal.



In the books Harrenhal changes hands a couple of times and I think for simplicities sake they've changed it up, not to mention to get more screen time out of Tywin.



When you read the second book you'll realise they've changed quite a lot this season, I personally love this as it allows for new scenes I never read but within the books overall world. Perfect.
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Ugh where was Ser Jorah Mormont when somebody stole Dany's dragons? D:
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He wouldn't!
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I just noticed that theon's servant, who was in the rodrick death scene, is chris finch from the office!! even more reason to rewatch that entire show
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YOU KNOW NOTHING, JON SNOW!
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I'm suddenly getting more confident that we are going to see some Ramsay-wickedness this season. Would have been a shame if the devil's offspring was cut altogether ;)
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Why isn't there a 10 hour video of all the Joffrey slaps in a loop yet? I'd watch that,



In my opinion, each episodes gets better and better. And I can't wait to rewatch it and season 1 on bluray.
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There are plenty of such slap-loop videos on YouTube already. And it's a great way to lose 30 minutes. :)
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Consider it done. I'll try and whip something up for next week!
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protrusions and indentations..... hehe
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I really liked this episode, but it's always the little things that make it truly worthwhile for me. The interaction between Arya and Jaqen was priceless in my opinion especially the look of annoyance on his face when Arya rushed him to kill Tywin's merry idiot. I keep rewinding that scene. I have kind of a soft spot for the assassin. :)
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He's the "murder genie" now for me. I love that guy because he's got some sort of "zen" attitude towards committing murder. I laugh at how people aren't suspicious of people dropping dead everywhere. I guess its commonplace for something like that to happen in Herrenhal (sp).
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I am Daenerys Stormborn of House Targaryen, Queen of the Andals and the Rhoynar and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms. I am the Mother of Dragons and true heir to the Iron Throne, meant to rule as Queen over the people of Westeros. Where are my dragons?!
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