Glee "Girls (and Boys) on Film" Review: Do You Still Care About Emma and Will?

Glee S04E15: “Girls (and Boys) on Film” 

With a little help from Finn, Schue managed to track down his once-future-wife and woo her with song and the couple that'd been three seasons in the making decided to get back together and return to dating like teenagers. Which means the Season 4 Glee-boot that was necessitated by the graduation of New Directions’ most famous seniors and the introduction of their generally unimpressive mini-mes is now complete, with Glee forcing us back to Emma and Schue’s roots—where she is timid and uncertain about EVERYTHING and he’s, well, actually Schue was kind of okay in the beginning of their relationship, so maybe Emma/Schue Part Deux won’t be a mind-numbing repeat of everything we’ve already seen but I doubt it. At least Glee didn’t opt to drag out the Finn/Emma kiss drama. Finn kind of needs a new storyline since there’s really no excuse to keep him around as a fake teacher now that Schue’s back. So why is he still hanging out in the teachers lounge and exercising apparent free reign over the halls? 

The boys and girls were pitted against one another with a movie-mash-up theme. The winning team was promised starring roles in Artie’s new film. Why must everything be boys versus girls with these kids? I cheered Britney and Blaine’s pairing, except that “Shout” seemed kind of tame and dull without all the togas and booze, and honestly, kind of anticlimactic for what was Glee’s official 500th musical performance. Glad it was an ensemble number, though. It HAD to be an ensemble number. Okay, and escaping the library on their stomachs was funny. Also table dancing. Love table dancing. 

Fine, it was an adequate performance for such an impressive milestone. I just personally feel like “Shout” should always be presented as a beer-soaked festival of raunchiness. Because it should. 

In the end, Schue declared everyone winners, but along the way, Marley told Kitty about the Ryder kiss because she’s a moron. There’s being sweet and seeing the niceness in everybody and then there’s being a willfully blind idiot and Marley Rose, this is your life right now. If I’m to continue making excuses for you and trying really hard to care about your storylines, I’m gonna need you to stop being a freaking dumbass when it comes to Psycho Kitty. However, on that note, I suppose it’s good that Marley ended up spilling the beans to Jake, too. I mean, he didn’t take it any better than he would have when Kitty inevitably told him, but at least now Marley can play the “HEY I WAS HONEST WITH YOU” card and maybe this will somehow lead to a humbling moment for Hate-u-Kitty. I can hope, right?

Meanwhile, while snowed in in New York, Kurt, Rachel, Santana, and Kurt’s new boyfriend/almost-boyfriend Doctor Who (nice one, Santana) watched movies and cried because of their problems. Rachel might be preggers, but probably not since we already did an unplanned baby bump with Quinn, but then again mayBE because this season has been all about the Glee-boot, but then again probably not because it’s Rachel. The jury is still out on that one. 


Kurt wept because Moulin Rouge is sad and he missed Blaine and “Come What May” was totally their song and feelings and stuff. I’m actually torn on the current state of Blaine/Kurt. As much as I want them to get back together, I’m actually kind of enjoying Kurt’s new guy, and even though Rachel and Finn were held up as Glee's golden couple for the longest time (and maybe they still are, idk), Kurt and Blaine’s break-up—and particularly Kurt’s response to it—is finally starting to feel organic and honest. I still love them together, but at the same time, if Glee never returns them to their former status, that would be okay too. High-school romances can feel like the great love of your life in the moment and the break-ups can be intense and feel like the end of the world, but Kurt is in a position where I think he’s beginning to understand how to carry on a mature relationship that isn’t partially made up of hormones and happenstance. I like this new grown-up Kurt.

Santana and Rachel battled it out over personal-space issues and Santana’s assertion that Brody is clearly a drug dealer because he carries around wads of cash and a pager. Santana also spent an evening digging through her roommate's personal things because forcing its characters to act like irrational lunatics is the only way Glee knows how to manipulate itself into a touching moment—like the one with Santana and Rachel and the infamous pee-stick. Who digs through bathroom trash cans, Glee? Who does that? Granted, I can name a few people who do that in my own life, but those people are definitely of the aforementioned Irrational Lunatic persuasion and I was under the impression all these years that we’re supposed to, you know, LIKE Santana. 

I did really like her rant about Brody being made out of plastic, though. Glee does mean so well. In fact, it does a lot of things well, which makes the things it doesn’t do all that well seem so much worse by comparison. Those things include making sense, and maintaining some semblance of stable personality traits for its characters. 

But still, some of the movie homages in “Girls (and Boys) on Film” were downright impressive and honestly, for as much derision as the Glee covers tend to get, I’d be lying if I said I didn’t genuinely enjoy quite a few of them. Mostly I’m just sick of Marley being stupid and I think sending Emma and Schue all the way back to the starting line of their relationship was unnecessary. Just let them get married already, jeez.


What did you think of “Girls (and Boys) on Film?”



Musical Notes


 Glee playlist time: They were all pretty awesome except “Footloose,” which felt incredibly tacked-on and actually pretty boring. I was prepared to hate Mr. Schue’s Say Anything homage because he's been nothing but a creep lately, but it was actually really cute and sweet. The “Diamonds are a Girl’s Best Friend/Material Girl” mash-up was fun even if it BARELY counts as a mash-up. I even liked the Jake-Marley-Ryder rendition of “Unchained Melody” despite generally hating that storyline as a whole. 

– Do you think the Kurt and Adam thing will last, or is Adam really truly a rebound?

– Do you buy the "Brody is a drug dealer" idea? He's going to turn out to be a gigolo, right? 

 What are your thoughts on Emma/Schue? 

 Will Schue forgive Finn for kissing Emma, or is this going to put some serious strain on their friendship?


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i was frustrated when the wedding didnt happen cuz i wanted this storyline to be over already and i dont care at all bout emma now... it's just boring and frustrating
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I thought the Diamonds are a Girl's Best Friend/Material Girl mash up was SO LAZY - seeing as they ripped it - a pre-mashed mashup! - straight from Moulin Rouge. Which, again, you have the entire wide world of movie music, and you have to use music from the same movie in the span of what, 6 songs? LAZY. SO LAZY.
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ugh Marley.. didn't like her from the start. it's just.. too much 'sweetness'. duncare bout will and emma. duncare about anyone actually at the moment.. i kinda like ryder tho.
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"I’m actually kind of enjoying Kurt’s new guy... Kurt and Blaine’s break-up—and particularly Kurt’s response to it—is finally starting to feel organic and honest.... if Glee never returns them to their former status, that would be okay too." (from above article)

I'm so happy, I have felt so alone in my readiness for the end of Klaine, and have long felt that their relationship had come to a natural end around the time of "Glease". There has been many Klaine must reunite comments but I don't think there are any Kurt and Blaine should move on, if there are others please leave a comment saying so.
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I hate that they 'reset' Wemma. Are they seriously serious? We'll have to wait another 3 seasons until they get married, or not, again. I hate Finn. He is such a homewrecker. Why is he still in high school! He's not even a teacher, or a mentor. He is not qualified anyway. Lima sucks. I just couldn't care about Marley, Ryder, Jake and Unique. And I can't stand more more Unique/Marley songs. Give the veterans more to do because they are the only reason why most people are still watching the show. If they made the show focus solely on these new characters, I honestly would have stopped watching. Sorry for the rant but this episode had too much Lima, and too little New York.
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This is an oldschool kind of obscure reference, but on the law series The Practice, there was a moment where one of the legal aids (or secretaries? I forget), after years of being an underling was suddenly BAM lawyer. It was then explained, as a surprise to most of the rest of the cast, that she'd been taking night classes all along.

I'm holding out for something similar with Finn, so he can just be a teacher already without us having to suffer through years of on-screen teacher-school. Another possibility is in many districts you hardly need anything more than a criminal record check to be a substitute teacher.
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"I did really like her rant about Brody being made out of plastic, though. Glee does mean so well. In fact, it does a lot of things well, which makes the things it doesn’t do all that well seem so much worse by comparison. Those things include making sense, and maintaining some semblance of stable personality traits for its characters." -yes exactly!!!
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I just get so grumpy/ hungry (grungry!) when a whole generation of people thinks that 'Diamonds are a Girl's Best Friend' is a song from the motion picture soundtrack of Moulin Rouge.
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No love for the top gun/ risky business mashup? It was kind of great. Plus, didn't the girls cheat by not doing their own original work? As MaryAnn noted, it's barely a mashup. And it's been all nicely arranged for them by Baz Luhrmann and Marius de Vries.
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I really don't like the love triangle, but I do like the characters in moderation. Jake has his moments where he seems like he can be a great lead guy and then others where I see him as a poor excuse for mini-Puck. If he could get somewhere near the middle (have an Artie-type role) I think I would like him a lot more than I do right now. He just seems so broken and shaken all the time when he's supposed to be the confident, girls-drop-their-panties-when-they-see-him, don't-mess-with-him guy. I don't see it. Marley looks to be a great character if they would stop having her be so helpless and stupid all the time. Let her sing, be a lovey-dovey girlfriend and let her get angry for once in awhile; I'm fine if you want her to be a damsel in distress, but heck even Emma gets angry every once in awhile and that's usually when I like her best. Once Marley actually gets into a fight with Kitty, then I think she will actually grow to everything she can/should be. And Ryder. Good old Ryder. He needs to be a bigger part of the show. Everytime I see him on my screen, I know something good will happen. He always makes me look his way and I'm never disappointed. I was always hoping he would get Marley, but knew it was for naught. I'm really looking forward to a Ryder/Jake feud though because the first feud was a highlight for me for this season. I kind of hope that Ryder will lose though and get snatched up by Kitty. Although I dislike her character, it's always a good thing when she's on and a Ryder/Kitty vs Jake/Marley would be fun to watch. Any who, thought it was a good episode, and I'm really looking forward to seeing how the club deals with Finn v Schuester. Also hope Santana makes fun of people more; love her.
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This is such a boring episode, only thing I enjoyed was Santana's ranting about Brody's hairless, "frictionless" body.
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D'ya know what? I'm completely bored of Glee now. Hate all the new characters especially this stupid storyline with Puck's brother and the girl with non-exsistant bulimia. They are so forgettable I can't even remember their names. Ryan Murphy should just close McKinnley High and move all the characters we care about to New York and enroll them all in NYADA and be done with it.
The only characters anyone cares about are Finn, Rachel, Kurt, and maybe Mr Schue anyway.
I will allow Santana, Blaine & Artie to come along at a push....

The rest, well let's start with sacking all of the "Glee Project" extras because quite frankly they've all been a waste of space. Not one good storyline has come from any of them.

Bring back Kate Hudson, she rocks as Rachel's teacher and maybe she can be a new love interest for Mr Schue, because we ALL know that this romance with Emma is NEVER gonna work, and are we even bothered. Hands up? Anyone?????

Brody is a hot, and obviously a gigilo so he can stay.

Also, can I say the music isn't up to scratch either this season. The only memorable song that I've remotely enjoyed so far is the cover of Ellie Goulding's Anything Can Happen....and well this only worked because it's an awesome song that just couldn't be spoilt.

I'm really not sure if I'm going to watch for much longer because it is really becoming a chore....
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Ohhh yea I miss Kate Hudson! She was fantastic~! XD
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with his hands up high and his feet down low, brody is a giggolo. no doubt.
and i agree with your point on kurt/blaine. this may sound awful, but these people are petty high schoolers or petty just-out-of high schoolers, who don;t generally mate for life. i wish will and emma could just get married already, theirs is the only relationship i really care about working out, because they are freaking adults and deserve it.
and they never actually revealed if rachel is pregnant or not. santana didn;t blatantly ask her and rachel didn;t nod or say yes or anything she just started crying and next week that could be revealed to have been "i;m such a dumbass i went from the girl who wasn;t to have sex until i won a tony to the girl who lets a guy move in after 2 months"crying.
i really enjoyed the musical numbers this week, even footloose just looked like a commerical for converse shoes (although i did laugh when on the platform, brittany literally took off her shoe)
even though by logic sense (and i know logic is foreign in the glee universe) these kids would have all been born in the mid to late 90's, so it;s high unlikely any of them would;ve seen animal house, say anything, risky business or top gun. footloose, MAYBE.
and seriously, will needs grownup friends, it;s getting creepy. the moment after his serenade when he realizes the people who helped him are all people who arent old enough to vote.
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"Will needs grown up friends..." YES. OMG YES.

I had that thought about all the movies too, that realistically, the students should be too young to have thought of them as these great and beloved classics. Animal House seemed like the oddest choice. Ghost, I could understand, I guess. But idk. The freshmen would have been born in like, 1998? Maybe? I just can't imagine any of them obsessing over Footloose or Risky Business either.

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I liked the most of the songs in this episode, but I too was surprised by how many 80's movies were referenced (Footloose, Top Gun, Risky Business, Say Anything, Ghost, and I think Tina referenced Working Girl at one point). Unchainded Melody was just ok, I don't think anyone will ever top the Righteous Brothers version.
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I honestly still like Emma, but Will's been getting more and more drab every episode since probably season 2 finale. maybe before then.

I'm glad Santana finally is calling Brody out some, but I don't think he's a drug dealer.. I think he's a male prostitute.

also, I think Marley should pick Ryder, Jake's alright but he didn't want her until somebody else did.. and that Ghost scene almost made me vomit from the cheese.

I thought it was kind of weird how they're performing a mashup from Moulin Rouge but they didn't mention it at all
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Santana was especially mean in this one, I get it, I get it she is a hot bitch << but if you going to keep her around stop making her so heartless...!

"There’s being sweet and seeing the niceness in everybody and then there’s being a willfully blind idiot and Marley Rose, this is your life right now." -- Ha-ha, you are so right! I can't believe she still thinks of Kitty as her "friend"...that girl is poison..! Quinn was never this evil... :L
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Quinn has bitched slapped Santana (and vice versa) so many times so if we can say anything it's that at least Kitty and Marley haven't gotten physical.
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That really doesn't matter, Kitty has no redeeming qualities. She gave (in a way) Marley an eating disorder and feels no remorse. She claims to be Christian and pretends to be Marley's friend...Quinn has never been this horrible of a person. Let's not forget Santana is also bitchy and can handle herself, she is nothing like Marley.

So she slapped Santana. Big deal...
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I dunno. Didn't Quinn try to frame her adopted daughter's mom for like, crimes, in order to get her baby back? But this lady is a better actress, so maybe we feel it more. Agree Marley is agonising to watch. It's stressful - like watching Mr Bean, but with a gentle, self destructive deer as Mr Bean.
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Schue & Emma's opening scene - WOW! Also loved Tom Cruise movies montage. Puck's little brother sang the Ghost-pottery scene very nicely. I wish they'd give the little rich girl more story.
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I love sassy Santana. She always makes me laugh. I was a little disappointed that she didn't catch on to Brody being a gigolo and not a drug dealer. She is usually pretty perceptive. Why doesn't Rachel know if she is pregnant or not? The stick tells you yes or no within minutes. If it is a yes then, you confirm with a doctor. Don't like this storyline with her - I mean, how many extreme drama situations do we need with Rachel? I like Kurt's new boy too but, I do think that the writer's will eventually reunite Kurt with Blaine. I think they are perceived as some kind of iconic couple. Kill me now with the whole on again off again Will/Emma thing. People do get married you know! I really like Marley but every time she does anything I just roll my eyes. So naive! Her kiss with Ryder was hot though. I love love love him even though I hate that they made him betray his friend - it just feels out of character for him. Nearly barfed during the cheesy clay weilding scene. I think the Finn/Emma kiss is being blown way out of proportion, She was freaking out and needed a shock to her system to snap her out of it. Was he supposed to slap her or let her go on a destructive OCD rampage? Will can rightly be upset but he was absent during the whole wedding prep. Finn is honest and thoughtful. If Will knows him at all he would know that Finn holds no ill intentions and truly cares for people. Please, be an adult Schue.
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I had the same thought about Rachel and the preggers test. The exact same.

I feel like the writers are afraid to marry Emma and Schue because, like, it's supposed to be their end-game and if they get married and the show continues for X amount of season then what are they supposed to do? But the thing is, marrying them honestly opens up so many different storylines and I'd rather see them try something new than keep resetting them (and everyone else, honestly) for the sake of staying in the comfort zone.
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Exactly! Many a successful show has been made where we follow the zany lives of people who are married and/or couples with kids. There are so many more stories that can be done inside of these relationships.
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Ok so I haven't watched any episodes of this season and just read this article to pass time but what the hell Glee?! Emma and Will were my favorite part, why are they being messed with like this? Leave that drama for the teenagers. I'm missing the songs but don't regret I stopped watching after the last season.
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Gotta say im really starting to be done with this show.... I miss the feel of the show they had back in season 1! Dont know how much longer im gonna hang on :(

loved Santana though! So I dont know how weird this is but i enjoyed Rachel this episode.. its gotten to where I hate her storyline and only like when she sits in the background and makes the best facial expressions to conversations that she just happens to be there for.
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After three and a half years, they should have just let Emma and Will get married. It would not have meant the end of their story, just that aspect of it. They could have then moved on to a storyline like having them try to have a baby, Now, it just seems like they are rehashing what was already done well enough.

As for the songs tonight, they were pretty good. "Shout" was decently done but I do not feel that it was a big enough number for a 500th song. "Unchained Melody" is a legendary love song and is of course known for its use in Ghost, so I was not that surprised that it was used here. However, I just do not feel that Jacob Artist or Blake Jenner have the voice that they needed to pull it off, particularly the late high notes. I applaud their attempt though.

I was impressed with the rendition of Come What May. I was not very familiar with the song before this so I went and listened to the movie version after the episode. To tell you the truth, while the version from the movie was good with Ewan McGregor , I actually liked the Glee version better. The song lends itself well to Criss and Colfer's respective voices. Granted, the song was originally sung by a male and female, but I feel that Colfer is a stronger singer than Nicole Kidman was in the movie and his voice suited her part in the song rather nicely.
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To be fair to the writers they are in a difficult position with the Emma & Will story for two reasons:
Matthew Morrison publically said he wants to leave the show on at least three occasions.
Jayma Mays was downgraded to guest star this season so won't have the same contractual restrictions as she had last year.
When you don't have certainity about cast how can they produce a long term story for the characters?
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That is true. However, if their future with the show is uncertain, then extending their storyline makes it less and less likely that it will have a satisfying conclusion. They should have allowed them to get married, giving them a satisfying conclusion, and then have them be background characters will lighter storylines until their participation is secured and if that happens, then move into bigger storylines.
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I have just been tolerating Glee this year. I made the sad decision to dump it from my PVR after this episode. Good-bye Gleeks.
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Girls mash-up was a ripoff/cheat off of Moulin Rouge, DISQUALIFIED!
Brody is def an escort, but he'll be the kind that doesn't get dirty, or some Glee-like cop out.
I haven't watched practically this whole season and had no troubles keeping up with this episode... not good!
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Soooo naughty! Does Glee think their demographic is so young they don't remember Moulin Rouge? It stuck out as lazy. Also, as I've said elsewhere on this page it frightens me slightly that Glee treats these songs as if they originated with Moulin Rouge. Christina Aguilera, Lil' Kim, Mýa, and Pink did not originally sing Lady Marmelade. Nicole Kidman did not do Diamonds are a Girl's best friend. The theme was movies - they could perhaps have acknowledged Marilyn Monroe.
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Exactly!!! Boys should have won due to the girls laziness! picking a song that was already a mashed up version... UNACCEPTABLE!
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At this point, I really only watch to see what hilarious Santana gifs they create on tumblr. Hilarious!
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No, I stopped watching but I do wonder where that striped green coat is avaliable for purchase,,,if at all?
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It's a Kate Spade 'Mona' Coat
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Do you know make and model of the blue coat from New Girl episode 11?
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THANK YOU!:))
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Oh, come on! It's Santana! She was always kinda crazy. And I totally love her. And her talk about "Brody is made out of plastic" and this text about open flames and barbecue - priceless!
I don't think that Rachel is pregnant. I guess Santana will drag Rachel's miserable arse to a doctor and she'll find out.
I think that Finn shouldn't say anything. Stupid move, really stupid.
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I honestly rolled my eyes really hard at the un-ironic "ghosting". Looks like the glee writers don't watch Community because nothing will ever beat Jeff and Rich
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Yes! Forgot to mention this in my comment, but I couldn't stop laughing during that whole song and thinking "Community did it better" :D
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I know Rachel did not sing in this episode, but she cried miserably when she became pregnant and does not know who her baby's daddy is. But Santana knows that Brody is a drug dealer and that's the problem.

Marley led two lives, Jake and Ryder, and those two guys will turn against each other.

Will is furious to Finn kissing Emma, but it turns out that Finn's love actions are erratic throughout this series.

I know Brittany and Blaine need to take a hiatus from singing, but I still think that Tina needs more lead solos to be received for the next 7 episodes.

The next episode title should define as "VIOLENT WAR" Be careful, everyone, and fasten your seatbelts!
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I'm so torn by this show. It's really good overall, in my opinion, and if you look at the characters as a whole, many of them have really good character progression (usually supporting players, oddly enough). But I feel like in the balancing act that is essentially two to three casts, they're having to force things more lately. They need to either take the show to university or stay in high school.

Personally, I hope they go to university. Ryan whatshisname (I always feel guilty about not remembering his name because he's awesome) has done a really good job of making sure the whole show matures as we go along, but he's got these places where it just feels like we're stuck back in season one, and you're totally right about the Shuemma drama-llama in the room. That entire shtick has been played out for me, I think.

I actually enjoy the ridiculous caricatures sometimes, though. I think it fits Santana. I wish there were a way for that to be her personality and show some growth, but can't have everything we want.
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I'd prefer that the show stay in high school (if it came to chosing), I think it's what Ryan Murphy (the creator) originally had in mind...just change the cast every season/few season so that the show stays fresh.. Although the network/or him (I'm not sure) decided to keep part of the original cast that is (Finn/Racher/Kurt) and now it looks like Santana is back. It's just too many actors on the show and it's sort of split between New York/McKinley High School

I think it works sort of okay the way it is now. I suppose they were worried that they would lose a lot of fans/viewers if they got rid of the old cast.
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I really wish the 500th number had been a Breakfast Club re-enactment to "Don't You Forget About Me" HUGE missed opportunity.
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I am deeply embarrassed to admit that I know this, but Victorious did an entire Breakfast Club episode fairly recently.
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YES.
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Santana and Sugar need more dialogue. They're the comedy in this show.
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How I hate when characters are so ridden by guilt that they have to spill their secrets to everybody. We could have lived without Finn telling Schue about the kiss or worse, Marley telling Jake about Ryder. Glee, nobody cares about your love triangles. That's not why we watch the show. Otherwise, I thought Santana's actions were logical given her nosy and frank character. Her rants about Brody were incredibly hilarious. And I still like Adam and Kurt, even if I feel like the writers are slowly sinking this boat.
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First and most importantly, Aussie songs on Glee count goes up again! What is that like 5 songs ever?

Second thought - way too much Moulin Rouge in this episode, that movie is awful.

The Kitty/Marley stuff is still pretty awful and at this point can only be improved by the mother of all denouements. I thought Santana getting away from Lima would be a good thing but if this is how they're going to write her in New York then I change my mind.

As for the songs, apart from the Moulin Rouge dreck the b&w number was fun to watch & I also liked Unchained Melody, In Your Eyes (even though Will's voice is desperately lacking a hard edge, he sounds like a choir boy in most of his songs) & Footloose.
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I actually found the playlist mostly uninspired. The 500th hundred number was just sort of meh, not as exceptional as the occasion called for. I honestly hate it when they pit guys against girls and having both sexes sing the most gender appropriate songs was, as I said, uninspired and boring. Seriously, no creativity what so ever went in to the Madonna/Marilyn performance, and the Tom Cruise tribute was also sort of a snooze. There are so many great films they could've picked and creative mash-ups they could've done, that the whole thing just left me disappointed. I guess the producers couldn't find any interesting music arrangements online to plagiarize and claim as their own (I'm still kinda mad about the Jonathan Coulton thing, as you may have guessed). That said, I will admit to tearing up a little during the Moulin Rouge Kurt/Blaine duet, since I'm not a robot and that song is lovely/heartbreaking. But I really hope Kurt doesn't lead Adam on just to break his heart somewhere down the line, when Blaine inevitably moves to New York. I find Adam to be truly charming and sweet (and that accent!).
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I thought Santana rummaging through the loft was pretty on-character. She's always been a nosy B and I feel like it's something a lot of people would do if they were stuck in a loft, out of their mind with boredom. Not to the extend Santana did but...
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I watched the music video for Girls on Film. I don't think I'd seen it before. It doesn't hold up well.
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Who do you believe won the mash up, the boys or the girls?
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The girls by far. I honestly thought the guys mashup was just okay. It was a pretty clunky mashup which makes sense since its the only one of the two they put together. Marley's performance in Sparking Diamonds was flawless. Say what you will about her, she is a star and she looks like one when she's onstage.
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Like Santana??? You're not serious are you??? I like Santana about as much as I like Sue and Kitty!!! They're all peas from the same pod, who get off on putting people down.
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But surely you don't put Kitty in the same pod as everyone else, she has no redeeming qualities whatsoever!
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Sometimes the horrible venom she spews is kind of entertaining. That's a little redeeming.
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We'll have to agree to disagree.
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