Glee "Guilty Pleasures" Review: The Teachings of the Spice Girls

Glee S04E17: "Guilty Pleasures"

Okay, Glee. You win this round. "Guilty Pleasures" was a solid episode to leave us with while you go off on a mini-hiatus. We got some Fondue for Two and a few solid musical performances and some drama that actually kind of made sense except for Rachel swooning over Finn punching Brody in the face. Cuz violent outburst from jealous ex-boyfriends are like, so romantic, right? 

Glee even managed to squeeze in some public service announcements that weren't batshit crazy, which was both weird and welcome. I haven't been this un-conflicted about messages since Season 2. 

This week's theme was a strong one and by keeping it in sight at all times, Glee remained on the straight and narrow of decent storytelling. That and, well, guilty pleasures are just inherently fun. Occasionally mortifying. But fun. I have friends who would claim that Glee itself is a guilty pleasure. I know that for a lot of people, the cool thing to do is talk about how horrible the show's covers are, or how turning every single vaguely popular song of the last thirty years into a harmonious, tween-friendly tune is a slap in the face to "true" artistry. I won't argue those points because they're not totally unfounded. Glee has definitely covered songs that I don't think it necessarily handled well (I'm actually on the fence about this week's rendition of "Creep"), but for every "bad" performance, there's another one that Glee did really well. "Don't Stop Believin'" is a classic example. I enjoy a lot of the Warbler covers. There's also something to said about how entertaining many of the musical montages are.  I can't even fathom the amount of rehearsal time that goes into an episode of Glee. Even the sucky ones. 

But on that note, my true guilty pleasure is that I adore the 1988 Bette Midler film Beaches. I can quote it. I stopped recording the number of times I've seen it once it hit the double digits. My undergrad roommate once threatened to take the DVD away and not return it until graduation. This is who I am, and I make no apologies! And I stole that statement from Sam, who seemed to have an endless supply of guilty pleasures to draw on, from his status as a macaroni portrait prodigy to his love of Barry Manilow tunes.


With Mr. Schue conveniently out sick with the flu, Blaine and Sam took it upon themselves to run glee club rehearsals. Brittany took the opportunity to try to understand Kitty better by inviting her to appear on Fondue for Two. "Guess what, everybody  hates you," might just be the truest line ever uttered by a McKinley High School student. 

And guess what—I still hate Psycho Kitty. I'm not sure if the push to make Kitty act like real people in the second half of the season is the result of deliberate intent and meaningful progression on the writers' part, or a desperate attempt to calm the hordes of Kitty Haters. I mean, she DID win our Worst Characters of the 2012 Fall Season poll with a substantial lead. It could go either way. I'm still very apprehensive about this supposedly reformed Kitty. I'm waiting for the claws to come back out. 

Kitty's guilty pleasure turned out to be the Spice Girls—a good choice. The ladies of New Directions were happy to argue over who got to play whom with a sudden self-awareness of their tendency to stereotype one another. Mousy Marley got to be ultra-sexy Posh. Unique indulged in flirty fashion and to take on the mantle of blonde-haired-blue-eyed Baby Spice, even though standard Glee casting patterns dictated she should have been Scary. Tina, of course, made a fabulous Scary. PSA #1: Individuals are individuals and shouldn't be confined to specific roles—whether on stage or in life—based on preconceived notions of race, beauty, personality, etc. 

Going it alone, Jake first considered performing a Chris Brown song. Jake reasoned that it was a guilty pleasure because even though Chris Brown is a confirmed douchebag, Jake admires Brown's work. The rest of New Directions balked at the idea, listing everything from Brown's misogynistic Twitter rants to his relationship with Rihanna, succinctly capping it all off with "That dude is a psychopath." Nailed it. 

Jake switched over to a Bobby Brown song and faced further criticism due to Brown's history with Whitney Houston. At which poing Jake launched PSA #2: Artists should be judged for their art and not their personal lives. I don't think it was quite as flawless a point as the one made via the Spice Girls, but the framework of a more complicated argument is there. Responsible consumerism certainly takes the personal beliefs and actions of powerful entities into consideration, so it certainly stands to reason that buying a Chris Brown album puts money in his pocket and monetary support, on some level, constitutes a blessing for Chris Brown to continue being an awful human being. There are absolutely artists, corporations, and other powerful people and organizations that I personally choose not to support because I disagree with some essential aspect of their existence. I TOTALLY get where the glee club was coming from. But it's also a slippery slope that makes it easy to condemn people simply for disagreeing with you.

Chris Brown is totally a douchebag though.

And finally, Blaine passive-aggressively revealed his feelings for Sam and... it was totally cool. Seriously one of the least climactic big reveals ever—which was perfect. PSA #3: Straight dudes and the gay guys who crush on them can still be friends. 

In New York, the saga of Rachel and Brody reached its inevitable end when Santana spilled the beans about Brody's night job, "Like Magic Mike. With happy endings. For money."

Rachel confronted Brody, indulging in a little slut-shaming action of her own. (Just to be clear, my issue with Brody isn't that he's a gigolo, it's that he didn't tell the girlfriend he's been sleeping with that he's a gigolo.) Brody countered by reminding Rachel that "not everyone has doting daddies to pay the bills." There were tears. And there was singing. But in the end, Rachel was energized and focused and not at all weepy and melodramatic. Her Funny Girl audition is still on the horizon and she's determined to ace it. Despite getting all gooey-eyed at the idea of Finn defending her honor, Rachel has made no concrete decision to start dating him again and even voiced the intention to start dating "older men." Oh, for the love of... just get back with Finn already, jeez. We already had Quinn dating her professor and that ended SO well for her. 

At least Kurt and Santana seem to be getting along now that she's a full-time roommate in the TARDIS loft. Kurt's boyfriend arm is way less creepy when it has a Santana-approved counterpart. 

Glee returns on April 11. In the meantime, what did you think of "Guilty Pleasures"?


MUSICAL NOTES

– My Glee "Guilty Pleasures" playlist: Oh wow. So many. Guilty pleasures are the best. "Wake Me Up"  because everyone loves being blinded by neon. "Wannabe" because those costumes were amazing. OMG MARLEY. "Mamma Mia" because it was fun and weird. I'm torn on "Creep" because my inner high schooler—who clung to "Creep" during our sad anti-social phase—is screaming that it's an abomination but eh, I didn't hate it. 

– "Hunger is a big problem in this country. But so is obesity. Which is confusing." —Blaine

– Any guilty pleasures you'd like to share with the class? C'mon, I fessed up to BEACHES

– Aww, I loved Small Wonder. Tina's V.I.C.I. was SPOT. ON. It was a great week for the Glee wardrobe department.

– How do you think Rachel's Funny Girl audition will go?

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My guilt pleasure is probably Dawson's Creek. It used to be Glee but I've kinda quit watching (still read your reviews though). I probably watch the whole series (Dawson's Creek) once a year.
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I have no idea why ikeep watching Glee, but i have to admit that this episode was very good. The songs were great and the story too, but i don't think where else can they go storywise, i think they should finish the show at the end of this season.
And my guilty pleasure is ABC Family's "The secret life of the american teenager", in a so-bad-that-it's-good way, and maybe some other shows from the same network: Bunheads, PLL, Mellissa&Joey, and the already cancelled Make it or break it (total guilty pleasure for me)
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that pic with their boyfriend/girlfriend pillows is great. I have the same pillow without an arm so it's not creepy. It's just a plain ole pillow.
The "Creep" cover was horrific but otherwise it was a great episode. Let's hear it for Kitty in that Union Jack dress! She may be a bitch but she looked awesome.
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The next episode is two weeks from today! I know Raising Hope season finale is tomorrow night, but I hope Raising Hope ends its series next season, that show is completely pathetic, like Ben And Kate!
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I think Top Model is my decidedly biggest guilty pleasure. That show is everything I am against, and I am addicted to it. It's for the pictures and the shoots, though. Couldn't care less about the drama.
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i enjoyed it. and for the first time i wouldn't mind watching this episode over and over again. especially the spice girls.... ENTERTAINING!
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I love Beaches, but don't think it's a guilty pleasure. Mine is hate-watching Glee and re-reading my kid's Beverly Cleary books.
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my guilty pleasure is glee

i miss kate hudson
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glee itself is the biggest guilty pleasure of them all. one of the things that kept me watching glee was waiting for kitty to be exposed for what she was. i was hoping for some gossip girl style takedown, i mean finn beat puck into the ground when he found out about quinn so glee has handled confrontation before. and it finally dawned on me this episode; everyone does know exactly what kitty did to marley. AND NOBODY CARES. it;s like the sam thing, he knows and he doesn;t care. the new motto on glee is yes there;s a problem, and no, it doesn;t matter.
i thought the chris brown thing was handled poorly. yes chris brown is a terrible human being but music something so personal that no one should have the right to tell someone who they can and can;t listen to. you could tell the glee girls thought not just about performing, but because jake just liked his music marley looked at him like she hit her mom with a car. i don't think i would want to know alec baldwin in real life but i still have 30 rock in my netflix queue. these people will have endless money whether you buy their product or not, if you like their whatever, that;s for you, you shouldn;t have to answer to anyone else about it.
and while i love sam, he can;t tv;s #1 rendition of cocacabana, performed many years ago by a girl wearing the most hideous pink bridesmaids dress knwon to man
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Ah yes, the TARDIS loft. The Brooklyn loft with the mysterious ability to have its interior get bigger every damn episode. I remember when they moved in to the place and you could see from one wall to the other in the same shot, now it is apparently big enough to fit 3 people and each have their own area plus a kitchen and bathroom. Apparently putting curtains up makes the place dimensionally transcendental. Pretty good purchase for a 3 kids working on savings and loans.

I love how, out of everyone in the glee club, the one to see through Kitty's facade and call her out as an evil sociopathic nutball was Brittany. Of course she followed this up by stating that Blondes have super powers like doing splits. Then you had Sam reveal that he knew about Blaines feelings all along. This episode should have been called "Not As Dumb as You Thought".

I was not a fan of tonights music with the exception of Blaines rendition of Phil Collins' Against All Odds. Darren Criss is showing real talent, especially when he does these stripped down live piano performances such as tonight and with Teenage Dream, one of the best songs in Glee's catalog.

I, like many of you, was a bit put off by Rachel's reaction to Finn punching Brody in the face. She is flattered that he came to defend her honor, I can see that. But express satisfaction and acceptance of Finns violent actions towards someone she cared a lot about wasn't the way that the show should have gone with it. For one thing, they could have had Finn simply sit and talk with Brody and threaten to drop the dime on him to Rachel if Brody didn't.

My big problem with this is that the writers dangle Finn's character development in the viewers faces and then has him go right back to his old ways. First they showed him choosing to be a teacher and then they have him act like the same impulsive child who called Kurt a fag, slept with Santana while still in love with Rachel, called Sues daughter retarded, and kissed Emma. Rachel should have expressed more dissapointment with him acting in such a way rather than be accepting of it.
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Ok, now I remembered - my guilty pleasure is the Wedding Planner and Monster-in-Law...what can I say, I love my Jenny from the block!
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P.S. I don't even know what mu guilty pleasure is....maybe Gossip Girl...
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I think this was a great episode - particularly because Mr. Giant douchebag a.k.a. Will Shuester was absent. It worked because, well Glee is a guilty pleasure, I mean back in s1 it was the show you had to watch and you weren't embarrased to admit to watching, but now its only that - a guilty pleasure. Loved the Spice Girls tribute - which is so not a guilty pleasure for me since I WILL NEVER BE ASHAMED TO SAY I LIKE THEM. STILL. Their songs and music videos will forever be awesome because the lyrics are memorable and the videos were great! Also loved Wham and Radiohead's cover.

About Finchel, although I can;t wait till these two lovebirds get together, I am still holding out hope for some Jesse St.James time...just saying.

In 3 weeks Finn and Puck will be doing Beastie Boys - CAN"T WAIT!
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Fantastic episode, the songs were all great!!! Really enjoyed this week...:))
I also wish Rachel would get back together with Finn already.....but that would be too easy....
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I'm just happy there was finally another episode where I actually knew some of the songs.
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The thing about music is there really isn't any good music or any bad music, it's just the stuff you like and the stuff you don't like. And if everybody liked the same thing it would be really boring.
Now what would be an interesting episode is if they did Guilty Pleasures in reverse, so the stuff you are supposed to like but don't. Ever met anyone who say they don't like the Beatles or some other equally legendary group? With the "How can you not like ....?" questions that always follow the admission.

That line where the person obscures thier art is one everyone has to draw themselves. For me it's Oasis, love the music but the Gallagher brothers are complete tools, so I always had second thoughts when buying thier music. Did I really want to give my money to these idiots? Turned out I did. But Chris Brown he's way over the line, I wouldn't have a problem asking a complete stranger in a record store were they really comfortable giving money to a person that beats up women.

And as for Marley, I think Melissa Benoist is turning into Heather Morris Mk II. When either of them are on screen and are in the background you still have to keep half an eye on them because there's a decent chance they'll be doing something that more interesting to watch than what's in the middle of the shot.
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I totally agreed with Jake's argument regarding Chris Brown and was on the one hand a bit disappointed that in the end he decided to not go there, but on the other hand happy that Glee decided not to go there (just because of how much they probably would have had to pay Chris Brown in order to use one of his songs). I really laughed when he replaced Chris with Bobby Brown though - that was a great move.
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MaryAnn... "I know everything there is to know about you... and my memory is very long"
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Why hello there! XD

First and foremost, I have to compliment the music performances in this one! From Blaine's heartbreaking song on the piano to everyone singing Mamma Mia..it was absolutely amazing! Every week Darren Criss impresses me more and more. He is such a talented musician! Also was that the first life performance on the show? Words cannot express how much I loved his performance! XD

As for the plot, it's moving at a nice pace. I wish we got some Sue screen time, and I love that Mr Schue wasn't there. Blaine/Sam should run the Glee Club every week ! Also, Kitty didn't piss me off as usual, that joke she made about Unique made me laugh. lol< Please keep it up and redeem Kitty in some way! :)
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Darren also sang live when he did the piano version of Teenage Dream
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I guess this is only sort of relevant, but Starkid, the production group Darren's a part of, is following the Veronica Mars Kickstarter example. Well, kind of, they're using the campaign to fund their new show, which from my understanding will be the untold story of Jafar, a la Wicked!

As for the episode itself: my guilty pleasure is probably this show. But aside from that, probably Taylor Swift, and umm...One Direction sometimes...don't shun me :(
I liked the Spice Girls number, but then again I am unabashedly open for my love of them
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Is Darren Criss the only cast member that is allowed to sing on camera instead of just doing booth-work? Because it sure sounded to me like the Collins song was live and he did do the heart-breaking rendition of Teenage Dream. Others may have done it, but I can't think of any other occurrences. Also, I may sound like a pig, but if Marley and Kitty dressed like Spice Girls for the rest of the season I would definitely approve. And was there a hint of Artie/Kitty possibly going on? That would be weird, but might work. I don't know, thought it was a great episode except for Jake's decision to not sing Chris Brown: partly because I really wanted to hear a Glee version of a throwback CB song by Jake (With You, Run It!, or Forever would've been great) and partly because his reasoning for doing a song was spot on. I understand why the girls/Unique (sorry if that's a jerk move, but I can't consider Unique a girl) had a problem with Chris Brown, but you can still respect his music and be okay with someone performing it especially when Jake agreed with 95% of the stuff they said. Again, great episode but the Chris Brown thing irked me. Can't wait for the next episode.
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Honestly, as someone who watches Glee out of love for the New York storyline, I really liked this episode.

That being said, it totally irked my OCD that they didn't sing the proper lines in "Wannabe" (I.E. Kitty as Ginger sang Sporty's line).

Oh, and my DVR can testify, "The Facts of Life" is currently airing on The Hub, not TV Land. Oh, side bar: Kurt's viewing habits are eerily similar to mine. Seriously, Julia Sugarbaker is a goddess! Btw, they need to put the remaining seasons of Murphy Brown on DVD.
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"That being said, it totally irked my OCD that they didn't sing the proper lines in "Wannabe"

I'm totally with you here. I enjoyed the song, but it really bothered me that they went to a lot of effort to dress up as the Spice Girls themselves, but didn't even bother to try to get the lines right for the most part. I did find it kind of funny that they said that Unique couldn't be Scary because that was too obvious, but then essentially went and gave Unique as Baby Scary's role in the song.

The reasoning behind the change can kind of make sense though - they had 5 girls singing the song, one for each Spice Girl, but the way the song is divided up there are only lines for 4 individuals (Posh doesn't sing solo in the song). When they originally recorded it, the refrain and bridge was Scary and Ginger, the verses went Sporty, Baby, Scary, Ginger, and the chorus was the ensemble - when Ginger left, Sporty filled the Ginger spot in the refrain, and Posh filled the Ginger spot in the verses, and Scary does the bridge entirely.

The way Glee did it, the refrain and bridge had Unique as Baby performing the Scary role with Marley as Posh and Kitty as Ginger alternating between the Ginger role, while the verses had Kitty as Ginger doing Sporty, Tina as Scary doing Baby, Britney as Sporty doing Scary, and Marley as Posh doing Ginger. So... yeah, Glee's Baby did Scary, their Posh did Ginger, their Ginger did both herself and their Sporty, their Scary did Baby, and their Sporty did Scary.
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My head hurts.
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So since CREEP was in the "Guilty Pleasures" ep. they really meant it to be a guilty pleasure? I totally disagree if that's the case. Always thought Radiohead is the cool band. Plus the eps. title is pretty ironic since most Glee songs are guilty pleasures, haha. Well we know how Glee writers feel about Chris Brown. :P Rightfully so but just put it out on the table more, will you, sheesh, like we all don't know.
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Pretty good episode. I thought Jake was completely write. You can separate the art from the artist.
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I'm genuinely disgusted that the writers chose to portray Finn and Santana's action as correct and drove over Brody and backed up over him again for good measure, but not at all surprised. I know how awful and misguided these writers are and have seen the sheer stupidity and insanity of the demographic the Finn and Rachel relationship is supposed to appeal to (because it's certainly not intelligent adults). Anyways, I hope they just stop with the relationship bs for the rest of the season and give us a freaking break already. I'm looking forward to basically Rachel's audition plot and then I'm going to consider that my series finale.
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Fanilows unite! I screeched with joy when Sam confessed his love. I love, love, love Barry. I also love Weird Al and Barbra Streisand so, looking forward to the auditions. I think if Rachel can reaccess her akward first season Rachel - she will make a perfect Fanny Brice. She certainly has the chops for that musical. Loved it when Brittany said exactly what we were all thinking. My biggest pet peeve of this show is their portrayal of Christians - Kitty being the prime example. I am not a fan of Jake or his singing but I would be okay if he stuck around just to dance for us - loved his moves. Sam is so self assured and I find that so attractive. I loved the way he handled Blaine's confession. Rachel however is so stupid. Does she know what a gigolo is? What he does? I get that he is struggling but guess what - most of us are struggling and not selling sex to strangers. And fine if it is his choice to do that but don't bring your contributions back home to the girl you supposedly love. Gross. Rachel upon finding out should have been mortified, puked, and then thanking her friends for rescuing her from VD - not singing a love song longing for her hooker/lover. Liked this episode a lot. Finally.
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TARDIS loft! Love that!
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So Rachel really said Finn was defending her honor? Seriously? People say that?
Also, maybe it's the country differences, but I don't remember the Spice Girls as being a guilty pleasure. I would've thought N'Sync of BSB which they did in another ep would've been more so. But I'm only exposed to what filters through to my country... Which means I had no idea what they were talking about at certain points... like Bobby Brown, Barry Manilow... and I'm pretty sure I've never heard Creep before.

Anyway, I loved the whole Blaine/Sam conclusion. It was so Sam to act that way, haha.

My guilty pleasure: Glee, which is obvious. :) Plus, I adore Darren Criss.
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I think the idea of Spice Girls as a guilty pleasure (or for that matter 'NSYNC or BSB) is more of a contemporary thing. They were all huge in their day and really aimed at the age group that the Glee kids are (character-wise), so if this was the 90s it would have made sense for them to have been fans. That was more than 10 years ago, though, and the idea is that if you now continue to be a fan of them it's a guilty pleasure. The same can kind of be said of Bobby Brown, Barry Manilow, and Wham!. (I don't get Phil Collins as being a guilty pleasure... Phil Collins is awsome)

ABBA and Barry Manilow was big in the 70s, Bobby Brown (Whitney Houston's ex-husband) and Wham! were huge in the 80s, and Phil Collins' career was big from the late 60s into the 90s.

Oh, and 5ive was an English boyband that tried to cash in on the success of groups like BSB and 'NSYNC at the end of the 90s. They weren't in this episode.
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5ive songs should have been inserted in this episode because what they are singing is related to this!
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The thing was that even back then when the Spice Girls and the boy bands were being successful, for guys to be singing a BSB or NSYNC song would still have been frowned upon as weird. So that's why I mentioned I would've included them as guilty pleasures. For girls to have liked either of those bands or the Spice Girls, it was considered acceptable, but you still teased people about it. I know because I teased my friends when they went on and on about BSB. :)
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How about 5ive?
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Nope, don't know what that is... Was it in this episode too?
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5ive is another british Boyband with a lot of mixtured songs. Their songs should have been included in this episode also!
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This was a fun, enjoyable episode which actually made me think "well done, Glee".
I liked that the show wasn't taking itself too seriously and was just having fun with being a guilty pleasure itself. It should do that more often!

I even thought that for the first time this season i wasn't going to roll my eyes during an episode, but then came that whole rachel/brody scene and it couldn't be helped.

Sam was golden! So was Brittany, "Fundue for two" and Lord Tubbington's love for Scientology (poor cat).

I praise the writer for the chris brown/bobby brown debate because it is totally legit! There are consequences to saying 'hate the artist, love the art'. The Rihanna argument made me think at the time "whatever happened to Beiste and her abusive husband?". There are so many plots that came and go every episode that i kindda lost track of this one.

Anyway, I'm torn about the spice girls song because i loved the energy and the makeovers, but hated the vocals. (i'm sort of an annoying fan, i know)
The same goes for 'creep'. It was part a huge part of my oh-so-gloomy days in high school therefore i was happy to hear it but it seemed somehow tacky in this rendition. I mean that bedroom scene which alternated brody and rachel in bed was just awful.

My guilty pleasure is my love for 80's movies. I know some of the plot doesn't even make sense, but I just love them. And if I had to be more specific, I'm embarassed to confesse that i've watched dirty dancing too many times...
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Whatever happened to Beiste and her abusive husband?
She left him
Went back to him
Left him again after a little heart to heart with the Glee club
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The music in this episode made me want to die, all of it, the guilty pleasure songs and especially the murdering of "Creep" the one non "guilty pleasure" (read: terrible) song in the episode, and most of the storylines did too. Not a good episode at all. I'm glad Rachel and Brody woke up, but other than that nothing really...happened in this episode, besides that storyline nothing really mattered in this episode. Sam always knew Blaine liked him, no awkwardness there, pointless argument over why Chris Brown is an asshat, Kitty still being a bitch (but working on it kinda). Terrible.
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I was really annoyed at the comparison between Brody and American Psycho Patrick Bateman. Yes Brody was a gigolo but he didn't cut up women and put them in the fridge. And the big argument this week against him would be that there are other jobs to get in New York but if he's paying for school by himself and rent and all the other stuff then that's a lot more than wanting money for food when your parents covered tuition
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It broke my brain when the Chris Brown song was replaced with the Bobby Browbn song. Bobby Brown, who beat Whitney Houston, who went back to him afterwards. What was this, 15 or 20 years ago? Are the Glee writers also in high school that they don't remember this? Even if you are in high school, it was mentioned enough in the news when she died like a year ago. He didn't just get her hooked on drugs, he also beat her. Bobby Brown was the Chris Brown of his day, only worse.
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I think actually they made a really valid point by switching to Bobby.

The girls get upset with Jake because his guilty pleasure is Chris Brown's music. Jake doesn't like Chris Brown as a person and thinks that what he's done is despicable, but he separates Chris Brown the person from Chris Brown's music - he argues that he can enjoy one without approving of the other. It's the same as how people still listen to to many artists despite the fact that they have questionable values in their personal lives - think of how many artists who are drug addicts, or promiscuous, or display violent behaviour whose music it is still considered appropriate to listen to. Look at the Sex Pistols - despite the fact that Sid Vicious was charged with murdering his girlfriend before he then himself died of a heroin overdose, it's still completely acceptable to listen to his music.

By switching from Chris (who is currently viewed as someone you can't listen to) to Bobby (who is just as bad if not worse, but is still viewed as someone you can listen to), Glee is making a statement (or at least an argument) about the hypocrisy in boycotting music on the grounds of disliking someone's personal behaviour.
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They mentioned the crack but not the beating. I think they forgot.
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That they probably did. But what else do we expect from Glee? Last season (I think) they thought it was appropriate for a teacher to sing a song originally done by a child molester in an attempt to teach the kids about sex.
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Yeah I actually kinda enjoyed this show, which is something of a rarity this season. Why? Mostly because I don't get off on people ranking on each other and with Sue nowhere to be found (yeah I know that I'm the only one out there who doesn't love Sue), Santana in a somewhat subdued mode and Kitty actually being told what a bitch she is, it made for an enjoyable episode.
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So many thoughts about this episode. Anybody else noticed Unique's blue tongue after that lollipop? Maybe I didn't concentrate on the right things... Spice girls! Wham! Barry Manilow! God, I'm such a guilty pleasure kind of girl. I'm just glad none of my friends know. This episode made me remember why I always switch the channel on the radio or cd when a friend hops in my car. Now, why is that? After all I am a grown up - sort of...maybe...

I didn't care for the NY stuff. It didn't really go anywhere. Except for Rachel and Kurt accepting Santana as a real room mate. Other than that I thought it was just a waste of good minutes. And I like Creep. Glee just didn't make it justice. And I felt it was because of Lea's part. Not that I don't like Lea's voice but this just wasn't her song. But that's my opinion.

Jake's dance moves... I just love it when they have a number with a real coreography instead of just running around the choir room. And Blaine's hair! Yay! At least three different hair styles: Normal, Wham, and Abba. Let the guy have his hair without a bottle of hair products, I love it!

Wow... Apparently I love all sorts of stuff. I didn't even miss Mr. Schue. Or Finn. Or even Sue and that's saying a lot. The only thing in this episode that really didn't feel right was Sam and Blaine when Sam told he knew about Blaine's feelings. Now, I have met a lot (and I mean a lot) of guys saying that "gays are ok as long as they're not after me". I really, really don't see a situation where a guy is ok with another guy crushing on him. Or maybe this is just those one-in-a-million things. Glad it worked out this way.

Now, my guilty pleasure? Probably anything I listen to.
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Gosh I totally agree with you about Sam! That scene was so unrealistic! Straight guys that are cool about gay guys' attraction surely don't talk about it that way, may be okay with it and don't want to HUG IT OUT. And more surely the gay guy won't hug it out, nor keep on thinking that there's a friendship separated from the other feelings. I really wish the show was realistic at least about the gay stuff -.-
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I don't agree with your comment about how unrealistic it is of Sam to not care if Blaine crushes on him. He proved in the past that he didn't really care, like in season 2 with Kurt. And I know guys who had gay men crushing on them and they were unbothered.
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I wish guys would be like that where I live. Maybe someday :)
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I loved Sam asking Tina if she was gunna go to Shue's house, straddle him and rub ointment on him while he slept. She is never going to live that down. Nor should she, it was super creepy.
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We don't ignore Tina at all, she is catching up with the Glee and gradually increasing publicity right now.
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One thing I do like unreservedly about Glee is the way that Ryan Murphy faces up to the absurdity of his show by having characters point out how bloody weird a lot of it is.
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This is one of the reasons I always loved Santana and Sue. They're always there to point out the crazy and unrealistic events of the show to other characters.
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My objection to the Creep cover wasn't that it was an abomination for them to cover it, but that they covered it BADLY, particularly Lea Michele's half. Terrible.

Shocker of the season: Darren Criss sang a song originally performed by a man.
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For the Darren bit: what about It's time, Don't stop me now or Everybody wants to rule the world?
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I loved the resolution of Blaine and Sam's storyline. No, it wouldn't turn out like that all the time or even a lot of the time in real life. But the actors persuaded us that on this particular occasion, between these people, it did. Yes it was a PSA, a good one I could get behind, I might add. But the reason it worked is because Sam behaved like Sam, and Blaine behaved like Blaine. Glee is terrible at forcing plots and characters into weird out of context arcs, but this didn't feel like that. It was nice! PS my guilty secrets abound. I love Robert Pattinson's singing. 'Never Think,' on the 'Twilight' soundtrack, for instance. HE'S AMAZING. Also - East17. Also - Demi Lovato, 'Give Your Heart a Break.' Also, Daniel Bedingfield, 'If You're not the One.' I should probably stop now...
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Does it count as a guilty pleasure if I have always happily admitted to love for all of those songs (except Mr. Bobby Brown, who I just never got into) and have them all on my iPod. And they're played regularly. :)

My guilty pleasure: I love Pee Wee Herman. Tons. I own the complete series of Pee Wee's Playhouse.

The PSAs were seemed out of place to me. It's not like Glee has ever cared about the stereotypes it puts forth. I know, I should not look for logic. It just didn't sit right with me.
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I didn't care for the performance of "Wake Me Up" because I think they just didn't do a good job of fitting it in to the story. It just felt like somebody said, "ok, we need one more song for i-tunes this week!"

Darren Criss is a really talented performer. I think some of the show's best musical mumbers lately have been the ones where he plays the piano.

I've never had any problems distinguishing between art and the artist, but I respect the opinons of people who can't. When I was in junior high/high school, I was a HUGE Guns N' Roses fan. I had a female friend, who's opinion I always respected, who refused to listen to GNR after one of Axl Roses's ex-girlfriends accused of him of abuse. Also, I think R. Kelly is a pervert and a total douchebag, but I think "I Believe I Can Fly" and "I Wish" are beautiful songs.

As for guilty pleasures, I listen to mostly hard rock and classic rock. I totally hate boy bands. That being said, I can't deny that "I Want it That Way" is a really well written, well produced song that I've caught myself singing along to.
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This is one of the worst Glee episodes this season because the Lima side was so poorly written. Can we take a moment and think about what really happened in Lima this week? Answer: Nothing. Absolutely nothing. There was no continuity from the previous episode and every in this episode are not going to get carried onto the next episode. Random topics that weren’t Glee related came up out of nowhere. Ex: Chris Brown, Rihanna, and Bobby Brown. ??? What is going on? The Lima side this week is just like those Christmas episodes where they take a step back from the storylines they have manages to continue writing about and completely made this into a special about nothing. Everything was so jumble and didn’t make sense. They did this just so they can do those musical numbers.
NY did have continuity. THANK YOU! Brody-Rachel’s storyline continued and actually transitioned very well. They had GOOD drama and humor.
There is really not much good to say about this episode. It was flat and had so many flaws. If NY wasn’t part of this episode then, I can honestly say viewers can skips this entirely and still know what’s going on, on Glee if they watch the next episode. It was that useless.
Sam/Blaine’s storyline was the main focus of the episode and it was excruciating to watch. How can we possibly revisit Blaine’s crush on him if in ‘I Do’ he was all over Kurt and they sang Come What May in the following episode. Chord Overstreet, as handsome as he is, CANNOT lead this show. He cannot act, sing and dance as well as the other cast, and those cast are all in NY right now. He’s talented but fans don’t connect with him. That’s why he left at the end of season two anyway. He chose to leave cause Glee didn’t make him a regular BECAUE FANS CANNOT CONNECT TO HIS CHARACTER. So Glee needs to stop pimping him out
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I was confused by one thing: I thought Kurt and Rachel kicked Santana out. Why is she back? Rachel is so messed up to be seduced by Finn's caveman act on Brody.
Otherwise, it was a nice episode. Kudos to the writers for the great ending of the storyline "Blaine-crushes-on-Sam". The songs were solid and fun.
As for a guilty pleasure of my own, I would say the Kardashians. Yeah, I know.
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So, while I enjoyed all the song choices, I was sort of like, well, wait, these are some of my guilty pleasure songs because I associate them with fun times in my life. But wait, I am 36 (I think, I stopped counting) and if I do my math correctly...weren't these kids born in or about 1997? Wouldn't a lot of their guilty pleasure songs be some of those silly things that came out in the early to mid 2000s? I mean, Spice Girls...okay, but I remember that coming out in my junior year of college and it being a interest you kept quiet then. Yes, yes, I know there are a bunch of mid seventies songs I know and love...but they are kind of retro interesting to others now when they find out...but that I still know all the words to Barbie Girl?
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The target demographic of Glee isn't under-18's, it's 18-25.
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Shhhhh. Logic has no place on Glee. Santana even said so.

You're right though, and I had the same thought. My fiance's sister is in high school and the Spice Girls are barely on her radar. I think Glee's pop culture issues stem from the fact that the writers are either incapable or unwilling to consider what actual high schoolers get excited about. Some of it is also probably necessary to maintain a wide appeal too. If every episode was a Justin Bieber cover (or whoever else the cool kids are listening to these days) I know my own interest would wane.
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Probably...it was just this weird distraction from an actual otherwise enjoyable episode (heck, since they were songs from my Ipod, it was fun watching them, I even have Creep which I didn't like included, even if it wasn't a guilty pleasure song, but because it actually is a bit of a seminal song..other covers respect it and keep the guitar riff out of it because that is real Radiohead.
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- Before anyone asks, the answer is "Andrew Ridgeley."

- Fondue for Two. Concrete proof that, in spite of the issues I can sometimes have with Glee, Brittany S. Pierce is one of the best characters on television today.

- Scientology is a huge scam, Lord Tubbington. Don't waste your money.

- What is Artie seeing in Kitty that I'm not?

- I'm taking issues with the PSAs.

1 episode of PSA #1 doesn't make up for 82 episodes of just the opposite.

PSA #2 is a touchy subject for me. I hate to draw the Glee/wrestling comparison again, but...while I'm all for separating the artist from the person, famous people have done some pretty despicable things. For us wrestling fans, the big point of contention is Chris Benoit. While I'm aware neither Chris Brown nor Bobby Brown have ever (directly) killed anyone, the fact remains that it becomes hard to process that such beauty and ugliness can come from the same mind.

And PSA #3...yeah, file this under "stuff that never happens, ever."

- As far as Jake's performance goes, the singing and dancing were both impeccable. I'm surprised that, aside from disgust for Bobby Brown, Brittany didn't have anything to say about it. She certainly did when Jake accused Britney Spears of not being a role model.

- I'll complain...while I appreciate the Small Wonder reference, I'm not going to praise the wardrobe department just yet, because VICI's dress was red.

- I kinda wished Santana had named her Girlfriend Arm. Also, I would totally watch a Facts of Life musical.

- OK Brody, one more song and then GTFO. You're just a gigolo, and you ain't got nobody. Put it into song and then go the hell away.

- In the interest of full disclosure, my guilty pleasure, at least musically speaking, is Hanson.
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I struggle with PSA 2 as well. Where's the line? As you say famous people have done some pretty despicable things. TS Eliot was a terrible antisemite and all round weirdo. But you sort of make an agreement with yourself not to deal with that when you read his poetry. That guy who wrote all the Oz books Frank Baum - he advocated the extermination of Native Americans. In the press, no less. Art, literature, film - particularly in the past - full of Bad People who make Good Art. I suppose the thing is - Chris Brown is alive and making music. Not groundbreaking music, either. I guess if he makes some incredible contribution to 21st century culture, later future generations can then separate the art and the man. Right now - he has not written the Wasteland. He's just being a big horrible baby saying reprehensible things on Twitter. This is our time, our children growing up, our young people who might be allowed to think that what he does/ did is ok. So censure him and boycott him all the way, I say.
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Chris Brown/Chris Benoit are apples and oranges but really, any Glee/wrestling comparison isn't going to make a ton of sense.
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My usual comparison makes a ton of sense...gaping plotholes, over-the-top characters, and excessive exploitation of stereotypes. I'll admit that this one was a stretch, but since Glee is a guilty pleasure of mine, I compare the two to rationalize. But in the Internet Wrestling Community, it's a huge deal...he was a talented artist and a terrible person, and arguments constantly ensue over whether or not the two can be separated.

Also, both have their fair share of dedicated hate-watchers. Many of whom were big fans before.
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PSA #1: True. So very true. Just wanted to give credit where it's due this one time, which I'm sure will the only time.

PSA #2: Such a tough one. Like, I understand the sentiment, but in practice, eh. It's more complicated than that and is really something that should probably be evaluated on a case by case basis.

PSA #3: I think it would depend on the dudes. I think it would be hard in general to deal with nonreciprocating crushes/unwanted crushes. I was just relieved Glee didn't use Sam and Blaine to create draaaaaama.

-- Googled VICI's dress. So it is. Spice Girls were still impressive though!

-- Ain't nothin' wrong with Hanson. I actually like them more as an adult than I did when I was actually in their target audience when they were super popular. Their old stuff is fun. Their new stuff is really good.
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You know, I've always been kind of ambivalent towards Brittany. But this week, she DEFINITELY gained some points in my book. I think it's because she's so unwavering in her honesty. She point-blank called Kitty on her b.s., and Kitty didn't even have a bitchy retort for her. AWESOME.

I liked this episode a lot. But are we EVER going to see the return of Kate Hudson and/or SJP?! I liked their characters a LOT.

As for guilty pleasures......*deep breathe*......I like a lot of Justin Bieber's music. :-x!!!!!
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Overloaded with Chiche's & Stereotypes! Urgh.........
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Darren Criss singing 'live' again was amazing and just shows how incredible talented he is. I don't think any of the other Glee kids have done a non-super produced number?
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The next episode airs in three weeks from now.

The "Wannabe" and "My Prerogative" performances were excellent. But the "Mamma Mia" performance was considered going back and forth from Ohio to New York.

The Brochel was finally brokened up with a final performance of them about "Creephead". Santana was correct about Brody!

Well Tina got her share with the other four girls during the Spice girl single performance. She was kind of weird acting like, Vicki, the robot, from Small Wonder! Since there are only five episode remaining of this season, Tina should receive more lead solos right away before it is too late! She's catching up with more publicity. I understand Santana turned her down during high school years. WTH!

Sam and Blaine need to be careful about approaching each other.

Will is absent due to sickness and thinking about getting along with Emma again!

I understand that Sugar and Joe are leaving this show at the end of this season, due to their another absence in this episode.

Guilty Pleasures is kind of mixed up, but at least Santana is not the only one insulting in this episode.



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I don't think the point of the Chris Brown thing was "it's okay to support him." Jake was just saying there's a difference between agreeing with the person and enjoying the music. I don't think he was campaigning for people to buy Chris Brown CDs even if they don't like him as a person. He was just saying that's no reason not to acknowledge that he has some enjoyable music. I personally can't listen to it without being reminded of who made it but that's another story.
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" I personally can't listen to it without being reminded of who made it but that's another story." I think THAT was the point. Ideally, yes, we should be able to separate art and artist. But it's not that simple most of the time, especially when supporting the art ultimately also supports the artist.
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I would totally watch a show that was about Rachel, Kurt and Santana as roommates! Maybe with some of the others coming and going as guest stars.
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That would be fun. Very sitcom-y. But fun.
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Glee is my ultimate guilty pleasure. I'm not someone who feels too guilty about stuff like that. I just acknowledge I have bad taste and indulge in all the teen soaps and chick flicks I want. I may also love Taylor Swift songs.
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Yay! Embrace it!

I like Taylor Swift songs too. *high five*
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