Grimm "Double Date" Review: 2 Become 1

Grimm S04E15: "Double Date"


There was something off-putting about the ease with which Nick and the gang flew right through that "morally gray area" (as Monroe put it) and essentially killed off Stacy, Linus's partner in crime. There were also all the icky implications of forcing a body occupied by two distinct individuals to only present as one, without any of choice in the matter. The story of Linus and Stacy tied in well with Grimm's overarching mythos regarding identity—everyone on this show has struggled, at one time or another, with two conflicting "selves." However, Grimm ultimately fumbled in its execution, spending little to no screen time exploring the finer points of Linus and Stacy's lives, instead jumping right into the cops vs. robbers portion of the program and reducing the characters to just another pair of criminal Wesen.


The ultimate fate of Linus and Stacy once again raises a question I've considered a few times over the course of the series: How should Wesen be punished for their crimes in the human world? On paper, human punishment (prison) for human crimes sounds fair enough, but then we have to consider the plight of Stacy and Linus, the mermen in "One Night Stand," and others. Those are Wesen for whom, due to their biology or psychology, a prison sentence becomes something cruel and unusual—harsher than it would be for a human sentenced for the same crime. 

We know that the Wesen Council has rules for how Wesen should interact with the human world. We know that those rules include stipulations against criminal acts toward both humans and fellow Wesen. Is it perhaps time for Nick to consider looking to the Wesen world for appropriate punishment of its criminals? 


Nick himself already skirts the divide between his human and Grimm lives whenever he works these types of cases. He's in an awkward position. The easiest solution to fair punishment for misbehaving Wesen would be a collaboration with the Council, but Nick himself, even though he faces the same dualities and "othering" as the Wesen around him, is not, himself, a Wesen. Furthermore, the Council has often shown that it may not be the most benevolent force in Wesen culture and politics. 

The world of Grimm has grown increasingly complicated since the series debuted, but it's also become clear that "the world of Grimm" isn't just one world, but three distinctive ones, co-existing, for better or for worse. And despite Nick's status as a Grimm, he's not terribly powerful in any of them.


On the homefront: Yup, Adalind's totally preggers and totally not okay with it. Juliette has walked out on her life with Nick to sort out her reluctant Hexenbiest gig—and taken up lodging at chez Renard for the time being. He's thrilled. The Royals are Evil and MonRosalee is preshus. 

While "Double Date" disappointed in some big ways, just like with so many other Grimm episodes, the questions and considerations raised by its flaws managed to elevate the hour just a little bit higher than it would otherwise rank. Grimm is more of a thinking show than initially meets the eye—and that's part of what keeps us coming back every week. 



ALL ABOARD AUNT MARIE'S BOOKMOBILE OF CRAZY

– Renard's rant about the difference between Hexenbiest and Zauberbiest was great.

– I'm a little confused as to why Renard would bother seeing a human doctor for his supernatural health problems.

– "HOW PRETTY WAS SHE?"

– Dumb Adalind Moment: HOW MANY TIMES HAVE THE ROYALS TRIED TO KILL YOU, GIRL? HOW MANY? STOP TRYING TO PLAY THEM. JUST STOP.


What did you think of "Double Date"?


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Nov 27, 2015
i thought that this episode had some rather unfortunate associations by negatively portraying transexualism, or a gender fluid individual. what made it worse was that it implies forcing a gender onto another is "for the best." criminal or no, i don't think the showmakers really realize what the subtext of the episode is implying. Everything about it was poorly handled and somewhat insulting.
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Mar 31, 2015
What has happened to Nick? I realize he's been through the grinder but it's gotten to the point where I laugh whenever I see the cliche terrified response of a Wesen encountering him for the first time. There's nothing inherently frightening about Nick as he now stands; if anything he goes completely out of his way to come up with ways to lock up Wesen instead of BEHEADING them like a Grimm should. Where's the badass that decapitated not one, but two Reapers and sent their freaking heads back to their boss? I miss that guy.
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Mar 30, 2015
Does anybody know what happened to the cool "Zombie-powers" subplot that was going in for the first half of the seaaon? I was really interested in that and it seems to have just... stopped.
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Mar 30, 2015
Do they not know how anabolic testosterone works? The extra test will only stay at that increased level for maybe 9 to 10 days max. Then the dude would just revert back.
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Mar 30, 2015
At which time, they woge and acid face everyone in prison. Ick
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Mar 30, 2015
One thing that bothered my this episode was using Monroe as bait. Why put Monroe in such a dangerous situation? Anyone of Nick, Hank and Wu could have done that. Give Monroe a break, the guy has been through so much.

I realize the show has to work him in some way but I'm just seeing this from the perspective if I was Nick. I would leave the policework to my team and only go to Monroe if there was no other option.
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Mar 30, 2015
"Is it perhaps time for Nick to consider looking to the Wesen world for appropriate punishment of its criminals?"

Well, since the Wesen world seems to have only one punishment (death), I'd think you wouldn't want him to.

I mean, haven't you been paying attention? Most of this season has been about how Nick shouldn't look to the Wesen world for ethical guidance. We've learned that the Council hires hitmen to whack faux mediums and pimps for being indiscreet (apparently, it's okay to con grieving widows and force women into prostitution so long as you don't woge while doing it), the Royals are still sleazily self-serving, and the closest thing to a Wesen justice system that's appeared on the show tried to execute Monroe for the race crime that is Monrosalee.

Besides, you're taking a typically shortsighted view of corrections. For example, if an intact Stacy-Linus combo were incarcerated in men's prison, Stacy would be the only vagina available to Wesen inmates and unable to emerge outside of the privacy of a cell without becoming the target of a Council-funded prison hit. In women's prison, it would be Linus that would be every Wesen's favorite victim. Either way, one of them would spend 90% of their life being raped, and that sounds like a fate worse than death to me.
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Mar 30, 2015
I sense trouble a'brewin! The side story was at least mildly interesting. An interesting & new creature that I hope we get to see again down the road but the main stories which took a back seat were Juliette & Adalind! Juliette pushing Nick away, enlisting help where there's already a complicated & troubled past could be side effects of being a new Hexenbiest or it could just be her trying to protect him. Either way it spells trouble! Adiland's little surprise, shocking revelation from Henrietta means even more trouble and I sense the return of Kelly Burkhardt! This should be very very interesting!
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Mar 29, 2015
That wasn't the most thrilling episode of "Grimm". This season has seen better.
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Mar 29, 2015
I enjoyed this episode with its pretty yukky wesen of the week and progress on the hexenbiest front too!
  • It is a fair point to consider if the Wesen Council should be involved in some way in justice for Wesen cases but a) Nick is in the police force so he has to work, to some extent, within the human system and b) I doubt the Wesen Council would be any more clement... So far their approach seems to be behead first, ask questions later... Esp. when danger of exposure is involved which, by definition, most Wesen crimes could cause...
  • I do love however that Monroe is the conscience of this show and Team Grimm. Monroe you are the best! But don't call any woman (but Rosalee) pretty ever again...
  • I love the Juliette storyline, finally making her interesting... Her sleeping in her car seemed a bit over the top though... Doesn't she have any friends at her job for example (she is supposed to be a vet though we haven't heard a mention of that in several seasons...) or why not go to a hotel? She isn't exactly poor... And she really puts Renard in an awkward position asking to be his room-mate... Nick is going to be seriously peeved...
  • Adalynd really deserves to be pregnant and now by a Grimm... Tough luck blondie... That will teach you to go around being a treacherous conniving Hexenbiest...
  • I am very worried about Renard... The bullet scars bleeding and the nightmares feel like bad bad foreboding.... Please Grimm don't killed shirtless Renard... I mean Captain Renard...
  • Alexis Denisof seems to be getting the boot as the Royal in residence and is replaced (per promo) by a more hard ass Royal prince... Sad for Denisof but his character was never all that interesting...
  • Wu is hilarious... I love how much he enjoys researching the wesen stuff.... He is a total Grimm-nerd...
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Apr 01, 2015
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Mar 30, 2015
That's right, she has at leaat two friends who are Wesen that aren't connected to Nick that she could have gone to for support. There's the frog-eating goat lady from the webisode and the one whose husband was abusive.
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Mar 29, 2015
In my understanding, it makes sense for Juliette because she doesn't feel human anymore, it's only natural she would feel the need to be with her kind rather than any human she met back when she wasn't hexenbiest.

It seems good for Renard because he's in a vulnerable spot himself, and he could use one of a kind in his life at least until things get back to normal...if they ever do that is.
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Mar 29, 2015
Is it perhaps time for Nick to consider looking to the Wesen world for appropriate punishment of its criminals?

but isn't the council's solution 'execute them'? for at lest 90% of the cases? they send their own hitmen or announce bounties for the 'guilty' and hire outside contractors... i don't think involving the Wesen Council is a good idea...nope. and 90% is optimistic; i can't come up with a case when it wasn't handled with lethal force...
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Mar 29, 2015
Linus killed that chubby businessman, and would have killed the police officers. When confronted by Nick and Hank outside the church, he said, "If you know what I am, then you know what I can do," and woged. He clearly intended to kill them both. He gets little sympathy from me, for in both cases his reaction to conflict is murder.

I felt Hank and Nick did express some silent compassion in the interrogation room.

So, I liked the hermaphrodite flatworm mystery. Unique!
I am intrigued by these subtly portentous words from Renard to Juliette: "Well, you do have abilities that defy explanation. How you learn to use them will determine what you become. You're more than I'll ever be. The way this happened to you — you're one of a kind."

(point of comparison: The flatworm chose to use his unique abilities consistently for evil, not good. Rosalee and Monroe for good. Elizabeth Renard is somewhere in the middle, I guess).
One interpretation of his words is that Juliette has more control over how her future plays out than she thinks, and her character will determine her decisions and ultimately her destiny. One of a kind. Maybe she becomes a "good witch of the north" with teeth. Or a really evil hag, fueled with the rage of a scorned and betrayed woman.
I can see why Juliette would turn to Renard, but we went through this trio trope before, and she must realize she is placing all three of them in a vulnerable position. The scenes showing Nick in reflection, remembering scenes with Juliette lend me to believe they will reconnect, and stronger than ever.
Sure as hell hope Adalind doesn't turn to Nick to find a father. Too soapy for me!!

Viktor out of the way. King Fred in Portland. Nothing happened yet, after 3 or 4 episodes with Royals in Portland. Move the Royals and Baby plot along, please!
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Nov 25, 2015
Chubby?

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Mar 29, 2015
I think i counted three scenes of Captain Renard with out his shirt!!!! So I'm happy. who cares about plot or show when we got to see Captain Renard with out his shirt :) More of this please.
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Mar 29, 2015
Yes, except that I am a bit worried that his (otherwise welcome) shirtlessness appears connected to the bullets that nearly killed him and this could be seen as foreshadowing his imminent death... I hope not but there have been signs...
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Mar 29, 2015
It seems a bit strange to me that they'd kill him after everything his character has been through this last season. I don't think it would make a lot of sense for them to kill Renard (again) after the last season ended with him being shot and almost dying.
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Mar 29, 2015
"I'm a little confused as to why Renard would bother seeing a human doctor for his supernatural health problems."
Doesn't hurt to try.
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Mar 29, 2015
Ugh, Juliette. There are no hotels in Portland? Why did you think that sleeping in a car was a good idea?
I agree with you about Nick needing to work with the Council about having criminals in some wesen prison, not killed. In this particular case, I think Stacy is not gone. Linus just needs some hormone therapy. If he hadn't kill anyone I would be ok with him being in a normal prison for a short time and then leaving but a killing should be Council bussiness. I am not sure how Nick could have done something better with "them" but I would have liked him to be a little more sympathetic. They killed the guy because she was scared not because they were cold blood killers, after all.
I am very interested in the Captain storyline.
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Mar 29, 2015
"I can't have another baby. I don't even know where first one is."
"I need to sleep with somebody, fast." haha. That was nice of Rosalee to let them use Monroe as bait.
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Mar 29, 2015
Ha ha indeed... Adalynd can be very annoying but some of her lines are hilarious... She is the best sociopathic character in the show...
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Mar 31, 2015
you got that right haha
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Mar 29, 2015
I have a couple of issues with the recent episodes, i feel like the show is moving away too much from the main plots that made it awesome.
1- We haven't seen much Royals action, they solely mention it a few times.
2- We never get to see Nick's mom and the super cool baby (only 3 episodes left in the season, hope they'll at least show what they've been up to)
3- Nick seems to be getting weaker and weaker. What happened to his super hearing and his pale/zombie looking face?
4- Although Juliette is suppose to have this bad ass power; she is still annoying to me when she talks. It may be how she holds her mouth when she goes into one of the rants and starts complaining. After four seasons I am still not sure her character fits into the story-line very well. She's like the squeak in the wheel that just won't stop. She's so damn whiny.

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Mar 29, 2015
the season has 22 episodes, that means 7 left
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Mar 29, 2015
One thing that has troubled me is why are the royals so obsessed about finding this one child? So much so that the king himself comes to Portland to join the hunt. Are they sterile or what? We all know royals sow their wild oats so why obsessed about the illegitimate child of a half royal. And from the story of Renard illegitimate kids don't get treated so well anyway? So what is so special about this one child that they pull out all the stops. Hope that gets explained

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Mar 29, 2015
Royal blood, it' why they tried to kill Renard as a child and why they have to find this baby now that they can: royal blood is powerful and they can't afford to have a wesen baby with royal blood unless it's under their control.
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Mar 29, 2015
They say it's because she's part Royal. I never believed that. I think that's just an excuse to claim her, raise her, and have her do their bidding. They want her because she's super-powerful.
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Mar 29, 2015
Agreed - I think someone (perhaps some seer working for the Royals) has seen this child to hold some extreme powers... possibly for that blood connection to Nick the Grimm - I can't remember how that happened but the baby seemed to gravitate towards Nick... perhaps she is the 'child to rule them all'?
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Mar 29, 2015
To be fair, the child is only a quarter royal. The child of a half-royal and non-royal
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Mar 29, 2015
Or perhaps she is half royal, if she is Eric's.
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Mar 29, 2015
Am I the only one who agreed with Monroe on the moral ambiguity of what Nick and gang did. In real world this wesen would have been an endangered specie. I felt sad thinking of him alone honestly. I must say
Captain Renard always gorgeous and well dressed , he was well cast as a royal. I really wish they'll go into his story and powers more. What is a union of Hexeinbeist and Grimm going to be?
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Mar 29, 2015
To be fair, Nick and the gang have been pretty gung-ho about the extra-judicial killings lately. With the Wesen they're faced with getting more and more powerful and uncontrollable, they've been basically winging it in the hopes that things work out for the best, and if not they've been quite willing to accept being the judge, jury, and executioner.

Given all this, suppressing someone's sexuality and perhaps killing off half of their personality isn't even the worst thing they've done.

I guess there's a reason they're called 'Grimm'.
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Mar 28, 2015
The "twist" was fairly obvious since there are hermaphrodite animals.

Also Reynard is a shitty host. Pouring yourself a drink and not offering one to your guest? Tsk tsk.

Not sure why Monroe had to be the bait. Wouldn't Nick make more sense? Or hell, put him, Hank and Wu in a bar together, increasing the chance one will be picked up. Once he is other can provide back up. Seems to me whole thing was just a set up for a jealous Rosalee joke.

Adalind, baby and royals........ Yeeeeeeeeeeesh........
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Mar 30, 2015
I was wondering about that too (why choose Monroe?). In my mind, they definitely couldn't choose Nick b/c of his eyes causing her to (possibly) panic and woge in the bar before anything happens. As for Hank or Wu, I suppose race might be a factor, since the previous victim was Caucasian (her type? I dunno) but yeah, having all 3 of them at the same time would make a lot of sense to increase their odds of finding her.
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Mar 29, 2015
Truth he told, he needed liquid courage more than her.

The show has never adressed whether Renard is still attracted to Julitte or not, it only focussed on her efforts to fix the relationship with Nick. She never tried or even attempt to try to fix things with him.
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Mar 29, 2015
Yep, I also rolled my eyes when Renard poured himself a drink and didn't offer one to Juliette or even ask her to sit down... But in truth her being there puts him in a difficult position several times over... Firstly Nick works for him, secondly Nick is a Grimm (and there is a war coming with the Royals) and thirdly, there was that curse that got Renard all horny about Juliette back in Season 2 (I think?) I think and I am sure Nick hasn't forgotten it...
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Apr 03, 2015
Considering how polite he normally is, I think he was trying to make the point to her that he didn't want her there, act unfriendly without telling her point blank to gfto. He was not at all happy to have her show up, and seemed even less happy when he heard what she wanted.
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Mar 29, 2015
Look again at the men Stacy tended to try to pick up-the guy they ended up killing, the man she was going to go for before he walked off, Monroe and the guy that Wu stopped as they came out of the bar/motel. They were all average looking guys who under normal circumstances probably would not get a good looking girl like that (I know some people complained about her looks a bit but you know what I mean). She did not go for the more good looking men as marks, therefore Nick and Hank are out. She may not have went for Wu, plus as a Blutbad Monroe can handle himself.
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Mar 28, 2015
"How should Wesen be punished for their crimes in the human world?"

How would they punish such a criminal in the "real world"? (i.e., the human world of the show) There's something about using chemical treatments to suppress a criminal's sexuality in our world, isn't there?

It does seem like the Council would have some kind of imprisonment system for Wesen criminals. Otherwise they seem to opt for execution as their first and only option. But nobody behind the show seems to want to look at that, either.
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Mar 29, 2015
Yep, I think the Wesen Council way seems to be execution when a Wesen is caught in criminal activities that could expose them (the latter seen as more serious a crime than crimes against humans).

Re: this week's case, I don't think Team Grimm had a problem with Linus & Stacy sharing a body or their seemingly hermaphrodite status, rather they had to prevent Linus from wolging to a)Get away with murder by appearing to be Stacy (who has no criminal record) and b)Eat someone else as Linus wanted to do with Nick & Hank when he got caught...
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Mar 28, 2015
I don't think that it's an issue of suppressing sexuality. They basically killed a completely independent and individual entity. Stacy was a completely separate person from Linus, just as Glory and Ben were in Buffy the Vampire Slayer. In that storyline the innocent Ben was smothered by Rupert Giles in an effort to kill Glory since he was only vulnerable when Ben had dominance. And some of the same people worked on both shows.
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Mar 29, 2015
Nick and his team have done far worse , pumping this Wesen full of Rosalee's special testosterone concoction is nothing compared to massacring those Nazi's Blubots in the forest and the countless other Wesen they've killed. I mean not counting the Wesen(s) of the week , how many Royal family henchmen have NIck and his team killed over the years ! Anyway I thought now that she was a powerful hexenbeast Juliette would stop being annoying..... I was wrong :)
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Mar 29, 2015
Yeah, never mind the fact that those Nazi Wesenreign men probably participated in a few massacres of their own. Nick and the gang were well justified in killing the Wesenreign group especially considering that we knew imprisoning them simply wouldn't cut it in this case. Also, most of the Verrat henchmen that Nick killed were outright trying to kill him so you could easily argue self-defense. Also what about the reapers that Nick beheaded back in season one? So yes, pumping wesen full of Rosalee's special testosterone concoction was definitely a bit unethical and particularly one of the most morally ambiguous solutions Nick and the gang came up with. There have however, been times when the course of action taken by Nick could be considered unethical and this was one of them, but sometimes with other cases the circumstances are so unusual ie-the Wesenreign the end truly justifies the means when you think of the potential consequences of an alternate course of action.
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Mar 29, 2015
  • Well, Giles killed Ben ultimately because he knew that if Ben lived there was a chance Glory could re-appear and did not want the risk. As a goddess (even without her full powers), she had the ability to kick a lot of a**, including Buffy's. At the time, Buffy had not gotten so hard (like she did in the last season), where she was willing to accept that there would be those that would die and it was acceptable to a certain degree. Since Buffy was not willing to kill Ben, he felt he had to for the greater good. Ben could not suppress Glory in fact towards the end there he ended up doing what she wanted, he stopped fighting because I believe she promised that if he went along with her plan she could separate the two and he could live his own life (I hope I remembered that correctly its been awhile).
  • I would not necessarily say they killed Stacy, more like they suppressed her. When Linus asked if he would ever be able to switch back to Stacy, Nick said he did not know. Essentially, they needed the Linus side because he was the one with the criminal record. They also could not afford to put him in prison where it was possible that some guard may let him go provided he turned into Stacy.
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Mar 28, 2015
That's what I get for writing posts after waking up. ;)

Perhaps I should have said "sexual nature." Linus couldn't shapeshift into anything: he could seemingly only change into an entity of a different sex than himself. And only one such entity. It's not like the crossbow dart kept him from transforming into a different man, or a child, or a bodybulder, or a lion.

(Whether Linus was merely altering his gender is up for debate: I didn't think Stacy looked like an opposite-sex twin of Linus. But to each their own.)

Yes, Stacy was a separate entity. But the producers seemed to be going for more than that, by tossing in testosterone, imprisonment, having Linus change gender, and making Linus' scheme sexual in nature.
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Mar 28, 2015
I can see here one might come to that conclusion, however, if that's what the producer were going for then it a very poorly thought out since several factors are misplaced.

First, hormone therapy in this case is provocative rather than palliative to their condition which is the complete antithesis of what hormone therapy means for real life transgendered people.

Second, Linus did not exhibit any trait suggestive of being a woman trapped in a male body nor did Stacy exhibit anything suggesting that he felt in any way like anything other than a woman. That is the key hallmark of what it means to be transgendered. It isn't a case of a woman having a male dissociated personality. It is a woman who feels that she was born a man in a female body. Completely different. Such an analogy could be seen as insulting to a transgender person a it would associate their sexuality with a mental condition like dissociative identity disorder.

I'm not transgendered, but I could imagine that they would not readily identify with this particular Wesen as anything in line with what they deal with everyday.
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Mar 29, 2015
Then again Monroe did address it a a sexual issue, so perhaps they did try for that.. I think it's poorly done if that's the case. The analogies are off to me.
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Mar 28, 2015
btw blame keyboard issues for the typos...
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Mar 28, 2015
Last Night's episode confused me at first. I thought Linus was crazy when he said that he needed Stacy and he loved her. I think it was a mistake for Juliette to ask Renard for a place to stay. I think it wasn't a good for Juliette to just give up on Nick. I hope everything works out for them. I enjoyed last night's episode of Grimm.

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Mar 28, 2015
While I did enjoy this episode for the cool twist on a simple con/murder, it didn't move the story along very much. All that happened in the main plot was that Adalind confirmed she was preggers, Juliette can't afford a decent hotel for a week or two, and Renard keeps having bloody nightmares. Other than realizing that Renard has awesome abs and must be buying lots of shirts, why does any of this matter?

On the other hand, the Wessen of the week story was intriguing and tragic. Separating Linus from Stacy was sad and may drive Linus insane, but I understood why they did it.
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Mar 29, 2015
The first night, yeah I agree she could have gotten a hotel/motel room. She did say though that she was hoping Renard could guide her through being a Hexenbeist. However since she was one who was created, he pretty much told her she would have to wing it. My guess is she went to him over Henrietta because she does know Renard better.
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Mar 28, 2015
King Frederick "The world is confused. People like the illusion of being in control of their lives, but ultimately what they crave is protection and safety." ... this needs to be made into a meme photo.
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Mar 28, 2015
It's basically the mantra of every bad guy who sees themselves as the good guy. Loki, Hydra, etc. etc.
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Mar 29, 2015
Yep, the mantra behind advocates of a strong state or in extreme cases absolute power. In political theory the whole argument behind Hobbes' Leviathan... Ie we humans are ultimately ready to sacrifice all our freedoms to be safe
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Mar 29, 2015
Also, Person of Interest
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Mar 28, 2015
I don't understand why Juliet just gave up on her and Nick. I mean, she didn't even try. Last week, she spent most of the episode being mad at him, and then tried to drive him away. Last night, she stays over at the house of the guy who she was magically forced to make out with? The hell?
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Mar 29, 2015
Yes, that felt a bit rushed. Which is ironic when Grimm normally drags its storylines at snail pace...
My only excuse is that Juliette is a bit out of her mind between coping with being a Hexenbiest and perhaps even the biological changes might be making her unstable?
But yeah, there are better solutions than sleeping in the car or going to Renard's condo and putting him in a tough spot... though at least she immediately bled to open the book...
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Mar 29, 2015
I think it was an excuse to try to get herself under control and figure out how to deal with being a Hexenbeist. She thought Renard could help but he pretty much told her to wing it. I think his mom (Elizabeth) may have at least tried to help her if she was in town. Plus, Nick keeps giving her looks, apologizing and saying he is going to try to fix it and she thinks nothing can be done. She baited him before she decided to leave. He could not look at her because of guilt and she made it seem like he could not possible want her because she was a Hexenbeist, never mind that fact that it was not like she was going to be in a permanent woge where she would always look like that.
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Mar 28, 2015
Well… staying in touch with your feminine side is TOUGH!

It was a fun to watch episode. It didn’t sweep me off my feet, but it was entertaining and had good humorous moments – thanks Mitchell’s natural talent!!!
I’m curious to see where things will go with Renard – and maybe whatever is happening to him will be what draws back his mother!
Go Team Adalind; trying to find a father for your baby is the right thing to do! Loll…
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Mar 28, 2015
This show is losing me so fast. It's turning into a daytime soap opera with fantasy elements in it. Someone's getting knocked up here, a death there. The only thing that is missing is the show itself being recorded at 60 frames per second because the plot-line and dialogues are already on par with that of said other medium.

"Hank, you knocked up Juliette! said Nick angry and loudly"
[Close-up of Nick his face and staring with angst towards Hank]
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Mar 28, 2015
The same happen to me... the case of the week are each week more boring... and the main interesting plot barely progress... and no talk that they never decide to cut the fat and kill the annoying useless characters.. instead they just give them even more lines. :P

Oh.. by the way.. be careful and make sure that nobody ever show you David's pictures on MTV's road rules, south pacific... it will kill the grimm charm for ever... xD
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Mar 28, 2015
"I'm a little confused as to why Renard would bother seeing a human doctor for his supernatural health problems."

Me too. I was annoyed during that scene because I kept saying "why would you not just go to your mother?" He's Wesen and he knows that these symptoms are a result of some Hexenbeist thing his mother did to save his life, so why bother going to a human doctor when you know your issue is a supernatural/Hexenbeist issue? I didn't get it.
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Mar 28, 2015
It's a case of denial, he was hoping it would be a normal medical issue not a supernatural one as we've seen the fix for those kind of problems always generates more troubles and sometimes even worse than the treated issue itself
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Mar 28, 2015
He doesn't know where his mother is or how to contact her.
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Mar 28, 2015
The subplots did not budge an inch, You could cut this episode out of the order and miss nothing.
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Mar 28, 2015
I thought this episode was at least better than the last one. All that waiting for a whole month for that lame episode. At least this one was interesting, however I do agree that if they are going to throw in so many sub-plots--Adalind and her baby, Juliette as a hexenbeist, Renard having dreams and bleeding, Royals--they need to back off on focusing on catching criminal wesen and start developing those story lines. Maybe they thing "teasing" in that way will keep things interesting but really its just annoying.
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Mar 29, 2015
You can blame Claire Coffee for the current pregnancy storyline as she wanted her current pregnancy written into the show, vs Bree Turner who hid hers with frumpy clothing and visiting a sick relative taping above the waist to cover up the pregnancy.
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Mar 29, 2015
Sadly, it was actually Jim Kouf who had the ill-formed idea to write Claire Coffee's pregnancy into the show which makes me even more infuriated than if it had been Coffee's idea. Honestly, have the writers been living under a rock somewhere and somehow got the insane idea that viewers would actually like to see another inane Adalind pregnancy? Personally, I'd rather they'd have just elected to kill Adalind off, since her character is basically pointless as a villain and really adds nothing to the overall mytharc of the show.
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Mar 30, 2015
That may be, but she still had the option to say no to the idea, which would mean the writers and other staff would've had to figure out ways to cover up the pregnancy like they did with Bree's.
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Mar 28, 2015
I presume Sean saw the doctor just to eliminate a human reason. While I sill don't know what the Royals are (and I just thought while our little gang seems to not like their choices and don't want to rely on the Council because they don't want everyone to die what if the Royals discover this dilemma and approach Nick with the idea that The Royals have a more humane way of dealing with punishments such as Wesen appropriate prisons and the resistance is not really objecting to that to create an issue for Nick and the gang) but when Juliette took Nick to a doctor she seemed to understand things better.

My understanding of steroids (and I was kind of expecting Rosalee to mention why don't they ask their friend who while a vet is a doctor to sort out the steroids) is they will wear off at some point. And there are Wesen guards if I remember correctly where they send people.
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Mar 28, 2015
Interesting psychologically. You have a Wesen that whose voga (sp?) gives them Disassociate Identity Disorder, that manifests physically as well as psychologically and one personality is obsessed with the other. That is kind of cool. That kind of makes me want to toss Linus in a padded room and study him for a few years.

Overall it was just kind of fun. I like how Nick et all are kind of settling into a fairly efficient routine with the occasional comedy tossed in there. It is nice, but it feels like a set up for future turmoil.

That turmoil is going surround Nick and Juliette. I don't see them getting back together. I don't see Juliette getting over herself in order forth to get past this. Plus she is thus far the only Wesen that appears to be as powerful as Nick. Her and her newfound Hexen powers vs him and his zombie grimm powers, whenever that is they get back to that potentially great plot to do battle.

But I also like where this is going in regards to Renard. I have always thought that Nick and Renard were eventually going to end up on opposite sides. I thought that is where they were going with Adalind's spell on Juliette. But that took way longer to rectify and they did all right with Renard. But we know what he wants, we have known since the 3 coins episode. He wants power, he wants to manipulate Nick into doing his bidding for him. He wants the keys. Eventually they are going to get back to that.

Overall it was an all right episode. But I am not sure what exactly they are going to do and where they are going to go with the plot. Which makes the show kind of exciting again.
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Mar 28, 2015
well... this wesen had Disassociate Wardrobe Disorder, too!

One moment it changes from male to female and wears female cloths. Later it changes from female to male and the guy is in a red dress! I must admit it... the color was bringing out his eyes and skin complexion... lolll...
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Mar 29, 2015
What? They always have the same clothes, male and female.
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Mar 29, 2015
oh... the kerchief was in the jacket's pocket... loll... I thought it "magically appeared... lolll I just re-watched the scene... hehehe...

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Mar 29, 2015
LOL, that explains it.
The convenient thing is that the woman appeared wearing make up.
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Mar 28, 2015
''I can't have another child, I don't even know where the first one is'', Adalind gets the line of the week!
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Mar 28, 2015
So, after sleeping on it (for 3 hours... again... apologies in advance if this post rambles a bit), I think I've pinned down a bit what's bothering me now about the Juliette/Nick storyline, especially considering that I was kind of the one who was pushing for them to have some instinctual/evolutionary obstacles to being together, in the first place.

I'm beginning to regret doing that now. Not because I don't like the world-building (still hoping that what they're doing with regards to Juliette's behavior, especially, is world-building, in that it's about what a Hexenbiest is, and it's not just some plot contrivance). World-building is always awesome, as long as it's internally consistent.

But I'm beginning to worry that, in the process of all this awesome world-building, the writers may have forgotten the really, really important things.

(I should mention that I've read the text previews of the next two episodes, and they do give me hope that I'm completely wrong about this, and the writers haven't forgotten anything. :) But I still want to get this out.)

What really important things? Well...

Let's start with Season 1... which was, quite frankly, boring. I distinctly remember slogging through most of it. I was much more interested in OUAT at the time (which was also in S1... its best season...) I'm pretty sure what kept me watching Grimm, was Monroe.

Not just the character of Monroe (although he is awesome), but what Monroe represents. Just like I enjoy the bromance between him and Nick, not just for the bromance itself (which is awesome), but for what it represents.

One of the very first things we learn in the series, is that there are these creatures called Blutbaden, and they're coarse, vile creatures that like to eat little girls. Then we meet Monroe, and one of the first things he says is, "Dude, I don't do that kind of thing. I haven't in years." When Nick asks him how he avoids doing that kind of thing, Monroe's response was something along the lines of, "Yoga, pilates, and a very strict diet regimen."

...In other words, Monroe became a better man than his genetics dictate, by working at it. And, even though those instincts are never gone (we see them pop up from time to time, usually when he gets angry), he still works at being a better man.

Likewise, the bromance between Nick and Monroe happened when they both realized how special the other was, so they chose to stick by each other.

All fangirling about superpowers and other creatures aside, to me, this is probably the biggest part of the core appeal of this show... because, despite all appearances, it is a very optimistic show. It's all about how individuals can change themselves and change the world for the better, and form bonds that nobody ever thought could be formed, if they just work at it.

So when I see speculation that Juliette may be becoming a villain, I worry. Mainly because that is, legitimately, exactly what it looks like (at least right now). And I don't want to see that. If I wanted a Greek tragedy, I'd go put in my Game of Thrones dvds.

I was pushing for Juliette and Nick to have ancient biological instincts that work against them being together, not because I want to see them fail, but because I want to see them succeed, against very real obstacles that exist within themselves.

Eventually. To be fair, it is still in the early stages, and some of the text previews do give me hope that the writers know what they're doing. :) But I just wanted to get this said anyway. :)
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Mar 28, 2015
Considering how long Juliette's coma and recovery from the memory loss were drawn out, I'd say we've got a few episodes for her relationship with Nick to come full circle. We'll be on the edge of our seats wondering how that could possibly happen.
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Mar 28, 2015
Good Rant. I agree with pretty much all of it.
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Mar 28, 2015
Instead of constantly ringing someones number and not getting any where, they invented this thing called "texting"!

You can write to the person exactly how you feel and it displays automatically... no need to wait for them to answer the call.

Important information not relying on them to actually answer the call.
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Mar 28, 2015
If you are referring to Nick trying to get a hold of Juliette, lets face it, she was not going to answer his text anymore than she was going to answer his phone calls. She could just as easily see that Nick texted her and ignored it. I can get a text and not even read the thing. She could easily delete the text on purpose and not read it because she is upset with Nick right now.
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Mar 28, 2015
how many times did nick slept with adalind? i bet his the father of her first child. she said she does not know the father of the first one but had to say it was renard.
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Mar 29, 2015
LOL the character Adalind is just getting more ridiculous every season, the writers have no idea what to do with her so she just sleeps with a different male character every season. Now there's going to be a 2nd baby , they didn't even know what to do with the 1st one so they just sent it away with Nick's mum... bad writing !
List of people Adalind has slept with so far :

Renard , Hank, Victor , Nick , Eric (the royal guy who died in a car crash). Wouldn't surprise me if Wu is next!
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Mar 28, 2015
As Katerine_M said, Diana is part Royal and Nick only slept with Adalind once.
  • Adalind slept with Eric and at one point she had a one night stand with Sean (who she had a relationship with previously). We do know Diana is a Royal, we just do not necessarily know if she is really Sean's or Eric's. It is quite possible that the child is Eric's and Adalind claimed it was Sean's in order to kick start paternal feelings so Sean would feel the need to protect her and Diana more so than he would if the kid was his niece since Eric died and she lost some protection there.
  • Adalind slept with (raped really) Nick in Juliette form because she was told by Viktor that if she did than she would get her daughter back. The point was to un-Grimm Nick and it worked. To reverse this, Juliette had to sleep with Nick in Adalind form. The antidote so to speak worked however it turned Juliette into a Hexenbeist.
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Mar 28, 2015
Adalind also slept with/raped Hank, didn't she?
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Mar 29, 2015
Back when Renard was not necessarily Team Grimm (wanting Adalind to kill Aunt Marie-1st season), he wanted her to get close to Hank. At first Hank was not interested in her, so Renard suggested other ways (potion). So she made some chocolate chip cookies laced with a potion that made him attracted to her, and a bit obsessed with her. At one point they do go for the bedroom (I assume they had sex), the potion takes full effect and he goes into a coma. Nick, MonRosalee show up too late and he is in the coma. The only way to get him out of it is to de-Hexenbesist Adalind. Nick does and he wakes up in Adalind's room wondering why MonRosalee are in there. He is cured after that.
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Mar 28, 2015
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Mar 28, 2015
(Also, it was confirmed that Diana is part Royal. Magically confirmed, that is. The only real paternity question was whether it was Sean's baby, or Eric's.)
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Mar 28, 2015
Think you're misremembering the story. Nick has slept with Adalind precisely one time, and that was when she essentially raped him.
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Mar 28, 2015
And the text recap is up, as soon as it clears the cache.
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Mar 28, 2015
Anybody wonder what that confession actually said? "Hi, my female accomplice escaped, but I used a flesh-eating bacteria that I obtained... umm, somewhere to kill one of our victims."
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Mar 29, 2015
That drove me wild! Terrible police work. What hard evidence did they have? A fingerprint in the first hotel room that places Linus at the scene sometime that week, and a man in a dress. No judge on Earth would convict based on that and what could be (for all they know) a confession signed under duress which, as you point out, would be utter nonsense!
Also, what the hell is going to happen if the hormones wear off while Linus is in jail? He'll just use his gender-swapping woge and "acid slime" to escape!
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Mar 29, 2015
Presumably, Linus (and Wesen in general) confess, plead guilty, and avoid a jury trial. They end up in prison, but the alternative seems to be getting executed by the Wesen Council.
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Mar 29, 2015
They might not face a jury but they'd still have to go to trial. Can a judge convict based on nothing more than a (possibly signed under duress) confession and a single (circumstantial) fingerprint? Is that how the law works in the US? I doubt there are courtrooms in Portland that are staffed entirely by Wesen.
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Mar 28, 2015
I'm still wondering what the confession of the Bauerschwein restaurateur said. "I poisoned random truffles that I served to everybody for... reasons. And the poison was... umm..."
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Mar 28, 2015
And Grimm writers, empowering women since... well, almost never.

"I'll have to find you another father. That's not going to be easy. I need to sleep with somebody. Fast."

*sigh* Granted, Adalind would make a lousy single parent. But she's not finding a father and sleeping with a guy because of any recognition of that weakness.
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Mar 29, 2015
I did laugh as soon as Adalind came to that conclusion... Honestly not the first thing any woman would think about but Adalind is... different? a sociopath? just a hexenbiest?

The way I understood why Adalind wanted to seek out a 'father' was not for conformism ie because she wanted the baby to have two parents but rather to keep this away from Nick the Grimm ie, if someone else is 'named' as the father, Nick is unlikely to wonder if he might be the father... Since he has to remember that they slept together?

After all, when finding out she was pregnant the first time, she went and sold the baby so... I don't think Adalind is worried about family values...
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Mar 29, 2015
think you're right, she wants to make sure that Nick never finds out that the babyis his.
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Mar 29, 2015
Yes, that was totally weird. Adalind is a lawyer, if I recall correctly. Why couldn't she have her kid alone?
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Mar 29, 2015
I think it's a matter of her wanting physical protection against the Royals. However, that's not what she says. Her eyes light up and she says, "I need to sleep with somebody. Fast."

It's not clear if she think that she has to sleep with the guy to make him think the child is his, or because she wants to seduce him into becoming the child's father/her wife. Neither one is very flattering to her.
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Mar 29, 2015
I think he wants to trick him to believe he is the father.
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Mar 29, 2015
That would be my assumption as well. But it's not what she says. Or if she does, she says it very indirectly.
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Mar 28, 2015
I agree with you, Adalind makes a lousy parent. From what I see, she has no job, no plans on how to raise two magic babies and no place to live (did she sell her mother's place? her place?). How will she and Nick even going to share custody of this baby? I can't imagine the two of them going to court and settling custody in this show. Maybe Adalind will die and Juliette and Nick will raise the baby.

I feel for Juliette. If she ends up with Nick, she has to deal with Adalind being the baby mama. If she ends up with Sean, she still has to deal with Adalind being the baby mama. She should be single and have a spinoff show! I am still waiting for that Trubel/Josh spinoff.
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Mar 28, 2015
It makes a kind of sense, though. Especially given Adalind's mindset, where if Nick knew he was the father, he'd take this baby away from her too.
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Mar 28, 2015
Added to the stupidness is the fact that she has to be at least 8 weeks along already, it's been a while since she 'Un-Grimmed' Nick. What guy would fall for that?
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Mar 28, 2015
More than that, especially when you consider everything that happened. Nick was de-Grimmed for at least three months. And MonRosalee's wedding was in spring... summer at the latest... (in fact, I think they said it was in May)... and we've seen a Christmas episode since then, and THAT was a while ago.
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Mar 28, 2015
Early birth by way of being a Hexenbiest? ^^
By the way, that is totally feasible. I myself was born after 7 months and was fully developed like other babies after 9 months (birth induced naturally without any medicine or other factors)
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Mar 28, 2015
...I really hope the next episode will have no case-of-the-week ... they need to focus on Renard/Juliette/Adalind and the Royals.
Monroe and Rosalee still don't know about Juliette !!
And it seems as if Juliettes and Nicks relationship is over....judging by her behavior...the Hexenbiest has taken over.
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Mar 28, 2015
This episode was pretty lame, especially the ending. I'm not into blondes, but hot Damn, I'd take Adalind up on her offer. The woman that played Stacy tonight looked like she was already taking hormones lol. Big arms and wide shoulders. I didn't find her pretty. Anyways, Juliette is so bossy. Instead of asking Renard at the door if she can stay there, she just walks in like it's her place and even gives him lip about opening the book. I like how Rosalee got on Monroe about Stacy lol. Monroe does let it be known when women are hot. Season 1 Episode 17, he says the same about Adalind. Is Adalind going to sleep with Fredrick? I would love to see Adalind & Nick resolve there differences and get it on. Season 2 Episode 12 Adalind says to Nick that they could have had a lot of fun. Overall I give this episode a 7/10.
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Mar 28, 2015
Mannish? That's pretty sexist.
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Mar 28, 2015
I'd agree that Briana Lane, although attractive, was a bit mannish. I think that was the intent, though. I get the impression that was part of the whole statement writter Brenna Kouf seemed to be trying to make.
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Mar 28, 2015
fun little episode, although we didn't get to see the scene from the last weeks promo of tonights episode. I was really looking forward to it. So Victor is gone and the king is in Portland..... Wonder if nick will finally get a chance to talk to a royal.

I do believe Adalind is really coming to a conclusion that her best interest is going to lie with Nick and Sean.

Sidenote, man they are really pushing Sasha's abs in this episode.
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Mar 28, 2015
I noticed the part with Sasha's abs--are you saying that was a bad thing? ;-)
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Mar 28, 2015
im 20 minutes into the the episode, and its so obvious that the pair is one person with 2 different personality... I hope I am wrong and writers are doing something more interesting with Wesen of the week because they have been sagging on that lately.
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Mar 28, 2015
I knew as soon as she made a comment about him being brave with a woman right before she killed the guy. It was a bit too obvious..
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Mar 28, 2015
I think they are dividing focus too much, having multiple plot threads and just slacking on the Wesen of the week procedural
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Mar 28, 2015
Besides once more presenting Juliette as a shrew, my main issue with the episode was that they seemed to be trying to make some kind of social/political statement with the whole transgender Wesen and "forcing" him to be a man. Judging from Monroe's pensive comments, we were supposed to... be concerned about criminals of mixed sexuality receiving forced treatments in prison to be one or another?

I'm not sure. which is kind of my issue. If they were trying to give us a message, it was pretty muddled.
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Mar 28, 2015
I think you're overthinking this. The only reason they had to force him to be a man is so they can arrest him (as opposed to decapitate him like in the book). Stacy does not exist in the world (no record, no nothing), so they couldn't arrest her. The male persona, however, does, and in fact he's got some records already from other states. This makes it obvious that the only way they could arrest and prosecute this wessen without killing, is to force him to always be male.
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Mar 28, 2015
That is how the basic story was framed, yes. But Monroe's dialogue indicated they were trying to go for something more.

MaryAnn noted as much in her review, so it wasn't only me "overthinking" it. Writers of fantasy and SF have often used their stories as metaphor for real-life concerns. the writer deliberately put the dialogue in Monroe's mouth. and the director showed Nick's reaction at the end to the idea of "suppressing" a personality.

I wouldn't call the writers and producers subtle about it, so it doesn't require "overthinking" to notice. That's like saying Rod Serling's TZ episodes dealing with the horror and futility of war are overthinking it, and we should just accept them as a soldier becoming the enemy during World War II, or some petty crook unhappy that his son is dying without looking at where's dying and te time period the episode is being produced.

Or "A Private Little War" on Trek is just about Kirk breaking up a Kllingon arms deal, and it's overthinking to say that it nothing to do with the writers drawing a parallel to similar real-life situations going on at the same time.
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Mar 31, 2015
I guess 'reading too much into it' is the phrase I was looking for, instead of 'overthinking'. I understand that writers and show-runners often inserted their social and/or political views into the characters and the stories that they wrote (inadvertently or otherwise). In this particular case, however, I don't think that's what's going on.

There was a completely logical explanation in the episode (as I explained above) as to why they wanted the wesen to be male and suppressed the female side. I won't blame you or anyone else for thinking that the writers are taking a social stand, but personally I just don't think that's what they're doing in this case.
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Mar 28, 2015
The transgender line of reasoning only exists if they actually wrote them a being the same person which they clearly did not. They were instead dissociative personalities,.. two separate entities inhabiting the same body. They were more brother and sister than a single person. It could be said that in order to lock him into the male form, they technically killed Stacy. If the transgender issue was the target, then they missed the mark on what a true transgender person actually deals with. They aren't dissociated from their sexuality, they live with it.
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Mar 28, 2015
As I noted originally, I didn't say it was a _good_ metaphor. :) But they did address the chemical treatment issue, which goes beyond the mental and gets into the physical. Toss in the fact that they're framing it in the context of imprisonment, and they seem to be drawing a metaphor... chemical treatment of the sexuality of prisoners.
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Mar 28, 2015
Unless I missed a pointed line of dialogue (which is possible)

i saw it more as there being issues with putting what's essentially a shapeshifter in jail. Even if it's only 2 human forms and Wessens often have Wessen wardens and guards.
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Mar 28, 2015
That was the basic story, that the writer and director seemed to be using (IMO, not really well) as a metaphor for a real-life situation, yes.

It was "more" about the whole Wesen imprisonment issue. But that suggests that it was "less" about something else. Which is how a lot of TV "fictional stories as real-life metaphors" work.
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Mar 28, 2015
Quote of the night:

Hank: Or we're looking for a big-ass snail.

Although do I detect a Zucker Brothers in-joke there?

Businessman: Hey, I'm from Detroit. I know woe.




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Mar 28, 2015
So in next week's preview, Juliette storms in on Renard when he's sleeping to complain, and laughs in Nick's face when he says that he wants to be with her.

So are Hexenbiests just naturally ill-mannered, or is it just Juliette and Adalind?
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Mar 29, 2015
I think is them. Henrietta, the Captain's mom and even Adalind mom seemed more polite and even sophisticated.
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Mar 29, 2015
Well, until Henrietta used her magic to vamp Nick... ;)
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Mar 29, 2015
Those were not bad manners and she was making a valid point.
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Mar 30, 2015
Ok, maybe my translation of the worlds "bad manners" is not right. I,ve read it as being unpolite. It has nothing to do with being a good person, or a caring one or even a person who follows the law. I wouldn't say that rape someone is "bad manners". Is something much, much worse. A crime, of course. But not "bad manners". Instead, entering a home without invitation, open their fridge without permission, verbally insult someone, those things are bad manners. Much less serious than rape or mind control, but truly annoying.
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Mar 29, 2015
@Katherine_M: I'll concede it's not mind control. Or if it is, it's only a sexual mind control. One could argue that a Hexenbiest is most powerful when using sexual and/or bodily fluid magic. (Although that doesn't account for the telekinetic knife throwing and mirror shattering.)

But as I just noted, you'd think Henrietta would at least warn Nick. a) that would make a more effective demonstration: "Hey, if you can't resist me when you're ready for it, what makes you think you're ready to deal with a much more powerful Juliette 24/7?"

and b) showing you can rape someone who was already raped by one of your kind seems like the kind of thing that'll get your head cut off.
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Mar 29, 2015
And while I hate to point it out again, Adalind raped Nick.

If Juliette or Rosalee were raped by a male sorcerer, and another male sorcerer came along and without their permission proceeded with the first steps of a magical rape, to make a valid point to them, would anyone believe it was anything but (at the very least) bad manners?

If anything, you'd think Henrietta would have the smarts not to do it without at least warning Nick. Showing you can rape someone who was raped by one of your kind already, seems like the kind of thing that'll get your head cut off.
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Mar 29, 2015
@Gislef: I'm not entirely sure she was proving mind control. I don't think that was mind control. It looked like Nick was still himself and still in control of his own actions, but he may have been slightly numb, slightly scared, and he was definitely very confused about what he was feeling. What I think happened, is she twisted his energies until he felt extremely aroused, and he couldn't understand why, but it caused him to lower his guard. That's... not really mind control... more like... sex control.

I doubt Henrietta could truly mind-control Nick, either because that's not a Hexenbiest ability (we've never seen any Hexenbiest do that), or because Grimms are resistant to it. It's quite possible that she used sex because a) that's the only thing that he's vulnerable to, and/or b) her end goal is either to truly warn him away from Juliette, or (more sinisterly) to really confuse his feelings regarding Juliette, and she correctly surmised that "warning" him about Juliette, in this way, after everything he'd been through, would accomplish the job like nothing else.
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Mar 29, 2015
Vamping a guy into kissing you, to prove you have magical mind-control powers, sure seems ill-mannered at best to me.

If I forced a student's fiance to let me kiss them to prove I had mind control powers, it'd probably get me a slap at the least, a sexual harassment suit at the worst. I'd mind control him into walking around the room, singing, dancing, writing his name 20 times on the board, something non-sexual. It might be embarrassing, it might even be bad manners (is their a polite way to control someone's mind?), but any of those would be a lot better than tossing in a whole sexual thing on top of that.
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Mar 28, 2015
8:49 that was the time that after we had been following the case, Sean and Juliette when out of the blue Adkins and we basically dropped Sean and Juliette stories.
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Mar 28, 2015
This was seriously the funniest Grimm I've ever seen; so many jokes: " I need to find you another father.... Fast!" LMAO!!! Just in time for April's Fools:)
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Mar 28, 2015
Initial thoughts:

- Earlier this week, they showed a preview on YouTube of Nick, Hank, and Wu in the trailer reading about the Wesen of the week. That was when I figured out the "twist."

- Other than that... let's see. I guess we're meeting a new Royal, one that isn't much like either Eric or Viktor. Should be interesting.

And who knows, maybe this one will be interested in the keys. I personally never saw the keys as a dropped plot point, simply because they'd been waiting to be gathered since the middle ages, and it was really just Eric that was obsessed with finding them, and then Eric died. It was dropped because the person most interested in finding them died. But others have talked about the keys getting dropped, so maybe this new guy'll be interested in them.

- Juliette is getting a personality transplant. I'm all for her developing new instincts as a Hexenbiest and not being used to them, but it's gotta be explained, guys. Otherwise it just looks like lazy writing. It looks like the plot is directing the characters.

- Speaking of Juliette, aren't we a little overdue for MonRosalee to find out about all of this?

- After Grimm finished airing, I didn't feel like turning off the TV, so I did a little channel surfing, and wound up watching iZombie for the first time. After spending most of the episode wondering why nobody seems to notice that the protagonist whose name I never caught and Julian Sark do not look like regular people, the episode ended with (spoilers for that episode, highlight to view) the protagonist suddenly coming onto her boyfriend after apparently months of giving him the cold shoulder. His response was basically, "WTF? Get out!" I felt like I was looking into Grimm's future.
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Mar 29, 2015
Her character is Liv Moore. (Got it? Live More). I am watching it but I am not loving it. One of my major beefs is what you said about zombies not looking like regular people but being regarded as if they were just weirdos.
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Mar 28, 2015
Oh. Also, I loved Renard's reaction to Juliette asking him for a place to stay. "Awkward position... again..." indeed. :)
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Mar 28, 2015
She doesn't care cuz it's all about her...ALWAYS!
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Mar 28, 2015
Not always. It certainly wasn't all about her during the 48 hours when Monroe was kidnapped and Rosalee was staying with her...
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Mar 28, 2015
Yeh. All things considered, I give her character some major props for keeping its together and (mostly) not burdening an already stressed out Rosalee.
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Mar 28, 2015
I feel like grimm is setting up juliette to be the bad guy soon.Then at some point she will fight nick and just kick his ass with her powers,which will take us to him getting stronger and going back to the story with him going pale/zombie nick and his powers.I can't wait for nick to find out that adalind is having his kid wonder how that will change there relationship,and then of course what will happen when juliette finds out.Also come on juliette you run off for what 2 days don't answer the phone and then goes to stay with renard why not just go to a hotel lol.All in all i still liked the ep as long as monroe and rosalee are good i am good lol.Till next week see ya O btw were was my adalind dream from the previews was waiting for that o well.
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Mar 29, 2015
Re: the hotel thing - I figured she might have thought that if she checked into a hotel nick would find her using his *cough* cop skills *cough*...
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Mar 29, 2015
If that was her concern, Nick could have searched for her car too.
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Mar 29, 2015
Good point.
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