Grimm "Natural Born Wesen" Review: Keep to the Code

Grimm S02E14: "Natural Born Wesen"


This week’s episode continued Grimm’s rollicking post-hiatus pace as Team Grimm (now including Hank and, reluctantly, Renard) pulled together to cure Juliette and track down Wesen bank robbers!

We picked up where last week's return episode left off, with our gang in the midst of curing Adalind’s spell. As Nick gasped on the floor, the Wesen were able to convince Juliette that his ailment was the result of a chemical imbalance (no magic here!). As per usual, she swallowed the story rather than asking how they knew such a thing, or why people who run a spice and tea shop are suddenly medical experts.

The next day Monroe made a deposit at a bank just as three Wesen burst in to rob the joint, fully visible as Wesen to the humans. We learned from Monroe that Wesen live by a code and that rule numero uno is never reveal themselves to humans. Also, the penalty for breaking it is lethal.


Nick clearly read my review from last week as he decided to keep the Grimm Key on him at all times. He also had a heart-to-heart with Renard that went something like this: 

RENARD: Yeah, so, Adalind’s spell, huh? Haha! No hard feelings bro?

NICK: (Stares icy daggers into Renard’s skull) 


Nick and Hank were called in to investigate the bank robbery and we were treated to a great three-way dynamic between them and Monroe as the Blutbad went “undercover” at a Wesen dive bar. The trio discovered the identities of the robbers and we learned that at least two of them likened themselves to Wesen Harvey Milk, with a mission of coaxing the community out of the Wesen closet. We also discovered that Rosalee’s family had ties to the ominous Wesen Council after she made a call to report the code-breakers. After Robbers One and Two murdered Robber Three, Nick and Hank were able to arrest the Wesen criminals—only to see them assassinated by the Council.


Meanwhile, Juliette had an acid trip, and it lasted the entire episode.

There was a lot to love in this episode: sullen, sarcastic Nick! Nick and Monroe as roommates! Nick, Hank, and Monroe acting like a team! A Wesen-of-the-week story that actually tied into the show’s greater mythology! Another glimpse into the political workings of the Wesen world!

However, that last item brings up a question I've been pondering for a while now: Why are the Wesen determined to live among humans? They expend so much energy hiding from humans, the consequences are so dire if they’re caught, and as we’ve seen over and over again, so many of them are bad at it. It just doesn’t seem worth it.

While the first two episodes after Grimm's long break were both enjoyable, the show needs to finally address the nuts and bolts of the world it's presented to us. We need to see what the Wesen get out of living with humans, or explain why living on their own in hidden all-Wesen communities doesn’t work. We need to meet more Wesen who don't flaunt the law, and we need to see that humans in Portland break the law, too—otherwise we’re dealing with a world where only Wesen are criminals, and if that’s the case we’re back to the question of why they’re even attempting to fit in.

We had a taste of the inner workings of Wesen politics in Season 1, but with Season 2 halfway done it’s time for Grimm to give us a Wesen world we can really sink our teeth into.


QUESTIONS:

1. Are Juliette’s hallucinations the result of the counter-spell restoring her memory?

2. Why did Hank and Nick get called in to work a bank robbery? Aren’t they homicide detectives? Also, doesn’t the FBI handle bank robberies?

3. If the Council takes care of Wesen who break Wesen rules, what do the Royals do?

4. Now that we know about he Wesen Code, who else wants to learn more about Wesen history? Raise your hands in the comments!

5. Why do the Wesen want to live among humans?

6. Will Nick get over his problems with the Captain?

7. Is Renard as trustworthy as he’s making himself out to be?

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And here I thought it wasn't possible for Juliette to be even more annoying and stupid...

She spends all night hanging near a precipice and doesn't think to pull out her phone and call for help or even open the drapes of the window right next to her and try to get the neighbor's attention?? Or even climb the stairs until morning? Seriously? And then she drops her phone when it rings! Of course she does!

And of course she goes to sleep in her bed like nothing's weird... Hey, I would be sleeping at a hotel or at a friend's even if it was all a hallucination and I knew it. But then if I thought I was hallucinating, I would've gone to see a doctor.. You know, because maybe the coma did some damage... Juliette makes a lot of stupid decisions for a supposedly intelligent woman...

And oh, the sparkly thinguies = I'm betting represent the synapses in her brain firing up, trying to get the pieces of her memory back together... Oh well, another day, another episode, another week to hope she's get less annoying...
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Juliette? Juliette who? Oh, you mean that annoying grumpy lady?
Yeah, I guess it could be the spell wearing off, or making her chose - does she WANT the knowledge about Wesen and all the other fun stuff back, or does her brain want to stay in denial a while longer? I'm thinking the big black whole is the missing part of her memories, and if she follows the voice from the past and jumps in, she'll remember everything and have ANOTHER freakout and ruin stuff - again. *roll eyes*
I really can't find much sympathy for this character, I think it's been badly written, underutilized the whole way, and right now she's such a sad sidebar I keep forgetting she's part of the show until I see her face again.

As for why Wesen want to live among humans?
Humans have cool stuff like widescreen TVs, memory foam beds, Playstations and fast food, and to get those things you need this cool thing called human money.
It would be tricky to set up a completely isolated community (not THAT much available real estate just lying around either), which would still have access to modern amenities while generating a fiscal surplus.
Doesn't mean there aren't some Amish-style communes out there, but I just think most Wesen enjoy the benefits of the modern world too much.
Also, there's such a divide between a lot of the different types of Wesen, I think they would find it hard to live as ONE community without a healthy number of humans as a "buffer" between the prey-Wesen and predator-Wesen. A fair number also seem to interbreed with humans, or so it would seem from the number of Wesen with human lovers and spouses at least, or who NEED humans to survive (like the spider-lady who had to find some delectable boytoys to snack on every ten years or so).

A separate Wesen community would never be able to separate itself fully from its human neighbours; simply setting themselves "apart" would make them MORE suspect, open to suspicion and fear - you may hesitate to fear/turn on your good neighbour Harold, but the guy from the weird commune out in the woods? HE's definitely some weirdo!
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1. Are Juliette’s hallucinations the result of the counter-spell restoring her memory?

Well, if not, we're moving into the realm of the supernatural from the fringe science of cryptozoology. Didn't anyone else get a chuckle from the sporadic quick cuts to Julliette sitting or standing at the doorway doing nothing. Reminds me of that old saw "And Meanwhile ..."

2. Why did Hank and Nick get called in to work a bank robbery? Aren’t they homicide detectives? Also, doesn’t the FBI handle bank robberies?

In Televisionland every city has two cops (NYC might have 3 or 4) who catch 90% of the cases, jurisdiction be damned. Sometimes it's one cop and a magician or writer or mathematician. They are always the best looking cops in the city as well, especially the females. These are the rules. Accept it and move on ...

3. If the Council takes care of Wesen who break Wesen rules, what do the Royals do?

Like all plutocrats they scheme and plot and sleep with anyone but their spouses. It's a game of thrones ...

4. Now that we know about the Wesen Code, who else wants to learn more about Wesen history? Raise your hands in the comments!

I do, Ido!

5. Why do the Wesen want to live among humans?

Don't think they have much choice. Clearly they're significantly outnumbered here on planet earth (my quick calculation based on pretty much no evidence is about 300 to 1) and "coming out" to claim minority status didn't work so well in the past. I suppose they could try to form their own country but last I heard they weren't just giving away land enough for a few million "people". And, would YOU live next to a vesen community?

6. Will Nick get over his problems with the Captain?

Sure. Always knew it would turn out like this ... GRIMM and creepy ROYAL battling side by side with the resistance to defeat the growing vessen facist movement. World War 3 with scythes, crossbows, and gnarly studded clubs.

7. Is Renard as trustworthy as he’s making himself out to be?

He's a realist, but honorable. He lies with conviction and he kills people politely, after due deliberation.

As for the vessen being the ONLY serious criminals in Portland (and by serious I mean dismembered bodies and such) I kinda like the idea that the true psychopaths are not, and never have been, human. Makes our species look positively virtuous by comparison.
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Love the way they used a Dutch company...i checked as i am Dutch...company does exist and is also a lawyer company..but as far as i could check, a normal human one...no Wesen ...beside that i loved this episode...i think Grimm has come back better then ever...
Juliette annoys me in ways i cannot describe...her character is very annoying...Why didn't she tell about the hole and voices when she got called??
Nick is getting darker by the episode...so love it....
Favorite character stays Monroe...he makes the whole Grimm thing going...!!!
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I think we do need to know more about the Wesen world. (I sure do!!!) But as for the question #5, I remember once Monroe said that they only reveal themselves when they want to, but only a grimm could see them "turned" when they were in distress. I guess that's why the Wesen community keeps on trying to live among the humans. Please, correct me if I'm wrong!!!

And, although there are lots of questions to be answered, I believe it's a great show. I'm loving it!!!
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"1. Are Juliette’s hallucinations the result of the counter-spell restoring her memory?"

No. Unfortunately they're the result of a mediocre actress with a contract for a certain amount of screen time, and of writers who don't know what to do with her character. Strike 1 for lazy writers.

"2. Why did Hank and Nick get called in to work a bank robbery? Aren’t they homicide detectives? Also, doesn’t the FBI handle bank robberies?"

I'm assuming Renard sent them because it was suspicious, but you're right -- they shouldn't have been there, even if the Chief had pulled some strings. Strike 2. But speaking of homicide, did anyone else notice that two people were killed at the second robbery because, once again, Nick favored his role as a cop (by not bringing the ones he knew were guilty in without muggle evidence) over his special knowledge gained from being a Grimm? And he and Hank didn't even care? Strike 3.

"3. If the Council takes care of Wesen who break Wesen rules, what do the Royals do?"

Nothing, just like royals in the real world.

"4. Now that we know about he Wesen Code, who else wants to learn more about Wesen history? Raise your hands in the comments!"

Yes? Maybe? Can we have Joss Whedon write it?

"5. Why do the Wesen want to live among humans?"

Actually I think some do live in Wesen communities; at least the way the communal animals like beavers and such. I think Monroe and Rosalee aren't good examples of "normal" Wesen in that regard (or in many others). Beyond that though, there seem to be too many Wesen to hide out like the Amish, and too few to start their own country (unless you count Germany and France, which appear to be entirely peopled with Wesen). So hiding in mostly-Wesen neighborhoods seems like the best option.

"6. Will Nick get over his problems with the Captain?"

He pretty much already has, I think.

"7. Is Renard as trustworthy as he’s making himself out to be?"

No, he's probably working a power play, and Nick's falling for it.
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The more important question is, when can we expect to see Nick fighting, or doing anything else for that matter, bare-chested?
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Anybody notice? The use of European locations: they seem to be pretty random, as though for some Americans one European town is pretty much like the next, and nevermind what language is spoken there.
The letterhead showed both "Amsterdam" and "DeHaag". Correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't that be "Den Haag"?
Also, in the last scene with the bearded Council dude, you first saw some Chateau out in the country, and earlier (when Rosalee called the Council) we were treated to the view of an Amsterdam "gracht" (i.e. street with a canal). But then, maybe the country manor was the guy's office.
Next there was a green screen background showing some medieval buildings on a hill. I really don't think that would be either Amsterdam or Den Haag. Hence my comment about random European views. Sloppy.
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Actually, if you freeze the image (yes...I'm so feeling like a nerd right now but I'm from the Netherlands and was interested in this) you can see that the first picture they use is one of street + canal (Amsterdam). In the second picture (the office) they've used the 'Vredespaleis' (translated the Peace Palace) in Den Haag. I think that's a pretty good choice for a Council building actually ;) If you freeze the screen during the scene where the guy's in his office the background does look a bit weird but if you look at the buildings it does seem to match with reality (if you use google maps etc, you will see the church top, white building etc.). The letter should have said Den Haag indeed, but maybe that's a typo, because at the bottom of the letter it's correctly written. The address however is indeed made up haha ;)
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Appreciate the nerdyness, but I feel the same because it always annoys me when American TV misrepresents "foreign" places. Thanks for pointing out the Peace Palace! So the Council jumps between two cities. Right. But, both Amsterdam and Den Haag are completely flat (hence the good cycling!).
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I live near the peace palace and thought it was awesome that they used it! A little grand for such a low key organisation, but stil...
The view outside is a little hilly, it should indeed be a little more flat. What bothered me more is the so called dutch accent. It was closer to a german accent and sometimes even sounded more like a russian accent (we dutchies don't pronounce the r the way they do on the show).

But I love the show and the fact that they use the Netherlands as the headquarters for the council it awesome!!!!
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I know right! Great that they've used the Netherlands for this :)

As for the background...it looks almost as if they've used a green screen, took a picture from the nearby surroundings at the Peace Palace and then projected it without looking at the correct angle...
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1. It's a result of her being one of the worst characters on tv right now.
2. They are the only cops in all of Portland. They handle....every crime. Every crime.
3. Control the world, while pretending their existence is nothing more than a wild conspiracy theory.
4. oooh ooh, me me!
5. It sure beats the alternate dimensions of the Observors and Lost.
6. I sure hope so. They'll make a kickass team, me thinks..
7. See above.
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I'm kind of hoping that Nick did NOT actually take away Renard's Hexen-wessen-essence.

That's kind of a douche thing to do without telling him, even if it does wind up saving his life.

If it was to save his life, he should have told him. If it was just to rid himself of a Wessen, that's just messed up.
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OK, question... from what I recall (it's been a few days)... Renard seemed a bit conflicted about writing / sending that email to the Council. The email-address at the top had the same name as the fancy letter-head that Rosalee was using so presumably he sent it to the same guys.

But, why was he hesitant? It seemed like he did NOT want to have to write / send that email.

Is his "rebel" view that Wessens should step out into the light? Is that why he's a royal-outcast; a forward-thinking Wessen that thinks they should come out of the closet?
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1) Yes, that is all it is. It was properly scary, but as soon as that voice was clearer and it was Nick's voice, it stopped being. Which was weird because I figured from the get go that it was all in her head. And now that it definitely is in her head, not scary.

2) Maybe Portland has no banks that are secured by the FDIC? If I recall correctly, that and the interstate commerce act is what gives the feds jurisdiction. I would actually imagine that they are more of a major crimes type detectives (like how Brenda's squad was turned into on the Closer) so any of the UCR (I was a criminal justice major) they are responding to...but they do appear clearly more prepared to respond to homicides than robberies.

3) I think the Wesen council are likely set up in response to the Royals and their likely use and persecution of Wesen and just have the code (how about Rosalee warning Monroe not to tell Nick about it and like the next scene, he is telling Nick about it, but luckily Nick only was half paying attention).

4) Hand raised, but you know they are scared. NBC isn't quite as tolerant as Fox or Lost when a show becomes solely mythology based and it was promised a procedural. Even if this show rocks when it is mythology based.

5) Well, they are hiding (from the Royals and human ignorance) so, you can't set up your own separate community if you are trying to hide.

6) Yes, first off, he does seem to be trying and then I think he is going to be under a spell that will make him empathize and then he will learn more about what is happening. I don't know what his feelings about what he did toward Marie would be and how he gets past that one...especially if his mother comes back.

7) Well, as long as their interests are aligned. I am not sure what will happened when either a) they win the big battle or b) something Renard wants Nick to do puts Monroe in danger.
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1) Yea. That's definitely her memory coming back. At the end of the episode, there was a voice saying something about "the truth" (which seems to be a reference to Nick coming clean to her... before she lost her memories).
2) Most police departments have "Robbery/Homicide" departments, so it's not like Hank and Nick ONLY work murders (though, it could be argued, that case was a murder because someone was shot and killed during the heist). Also, there are such things as joint-investigations between federal and locale agencies.
3) Besides Rosalee calling her council contact, Renard sent photos of the two robbers to someone. I assumed it was his family (the royals), and that they do similar things as the council/are part of the council.
4) They could spend a whole episode on Wesen history (starring Monroe), and it still wouldn't satiate my desire for my wesen-based mythology from the Grimm-universe.
7) Probably not, but he's probably more trustworthy than the full-blooded royals.
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Yes, the mail Renard was to the same guy Rosalee called. You can see 'Degroot' in the emailadress and the guy Rosalee called was the guy from 'De Groot & Zonen' (as you can see on the letter). Typical Dutch name, though the Dutch accent the guy used could have been a bit more Dutch. It was still pretty nice though ;)
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The name on the email address Renard used was the same as the name at the top of the fancy letter Rosalee showed Monroe -- the one where she found the phone number to call. I forget what it was off the top of my head, but I re-wound to check that.

So it looks like they both contacted the same guy, though I DID think it was odd that Renard was kind of hesitant to click "Send" on that email (or perhaps attach both pics). He seemed conflicted about the whole thing.

And the guy Rosalee called in the middle of the (European) night was the same as the one that was talking at the end about how each generation always has their trouble-makers that need to be taught a lesson.
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1) If you pay attention to the end you can tell it's her own memories trying to come back, specifically the one where Nick tells her he's a Grimm. The sparks represent sparks in her own brain and the hole was a hole in her memory.
2) Bank robberies are federal jurisdiction, but could be investigated by the local authorities with the FBI being informed. It's possible as senior detectives that Nick and Hank would work such cases. But if you look at Dragnet the detectives were always working random cases so there's a long precedence of it.
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I was so distracted by Question 2 that it was hard to focus, but in a way it addresses your point about non-Wesen crimes. If Hank and Nick are the only detectives in Portland for ALL major cases, including homicide, kidnapping AND robbery, well, they've already demonstrated their inability to actually solve crimes or follow police procedure. Nick's Grimmness seems to be their one tool in fighting crime.
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1) I never thought of that, but it makes great sense.. I also could not understand what the voice in the background was saying.. I am kinda getting bored with the memory thing, so it would be really great if she gathered all her memory back and understood what Nick does.. yet, I have a feeling that, when she understands it, she might just leave Portland forever..

2) It doesnt have to make that much sense, especially considering that the whole show is about fantastic creatures:)

3) The Royals do not intervene much with the Wesens, they work with Grimms to expand their territory and find the keys to rule the world.. typical royals:)

4) Definitely everyone would like to learn more.. It would be really great if someone just put all the info revealed so far together in a chronological form, so that we could have a better grasp of things..

5) Because they are not all the same.. not all wesen can sustain themselves if they were living seperated from humans (remember the very scared mice like wesens and think of them living together with blutbads) and they are less stigmatized when they are in human forms.. blending in humans actually protect them from each other and themselves..

6) no, and he doesn't need to.. renard needs nick more than nick needs renard..

7) definitely no, he is very unstable..
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They should go deep in the mythology not just playing the case of the week
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1. I thought it was a hallucination as well, then in the end I wasn't so sure. It could be some black magic at play.

4. I want to learn more about Wesen history as well as the role the royals play. It can be quite confusing to keep it all straight.

5. Why wouldn't they want to live among humans? Most of them are quite ordinary and want to live normal lives. Except for the criminal types of course.

6. I think Nick will get over his problems with the Captain in time.

7. I hope Renard is trustworthy...I think he's a great addition to the team.
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"2. Why did Hank and Nick get called in to work a bank robbery? Aren’t they homicide detectives? Also, doesn’t the FBI handle bank robberies?"

This bothered me too! I'm not sure about the FBI thing, but they could at least try to make it plausible. Either by saying something like "we're swamped today, can you guys in homicide take this case?" Or even just re-tooling the story, maybe Munroe saw it and told the guys, but they couldn't do anything, then they killed the people so they could be included in the case. Also, they didn't really explain to Wu how they knew where to go after seeing the green stuff on the dead robber's shoes. Plot holes bother me, dammit!
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re: "5. Why do the Wesen want to live among humans? "

That seems an odd question from someone in a melting pot country. Why do Protestants live among Catholics and atheists? Why do different human races live together? Why do people from China, France, Germany, etc, live together in the US in the same community? Why do blue eyed people live with green eyed people, brunettes with blonds?

Wessen seem to be human most of the time, they just have other attributes that make them different in addition to the usual ones. Wessen are different from each other as well, to use your way of thinking they should then segregate according to type. Obviously another answer is that in reality some of them make that choice as well (I seem to recall some mention of that in the show) just as "normal" humans do. There are Chinatowns in US cities where Chinese-Americans congregate, communities that are predominantly Catholic, etc
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true, but it's Wesen with one s. it just means being or creature translated
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So, the books are in German and the council resides in Amsterdam?? Was that supposed to be like that or do the writers need to update their geography?
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loved the fact that the hitmen were Dutch :))) that's SO not Dutch... made more sense if they were italian or russian or something :')
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Only some of the books are in German. Some have been in Japanese and other languages. and some of the Wessen names are not Geman. They probably just use German more at this point to make Monroe more useful.
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and they speak french in Vienna? or was it Genève. Because they do speak french in parts of Switzerland. haha well I guess accuracy is not that important for them
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Actually French used to be an international language just like English is now, before French it was Latin (and Renard knows it, too). In some European countries members of upper classes used to speak mostly French and German and some even English but not their own mother tongue. Some noblemen in Russia in the early 20th century didn't know Russian because it was the language of the 'mob'. So Royals could speak French and their country of origin could be irrelevant. When Royals speak French, their servants must learn the same language or they are fired (dead) simply because the Royals can't hire a henchman who doesn't understand which Wessen is to be killed.
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That makes sense. Just thought they speakmore than one language. I remember people in the upper class in Russia were obsessed with French in 1900. A lot of Russian artists lived in Paris at that time. I forgot Renard and his family were that old. There was something about his age right? ... and can't help it but it's Wesen btw...
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I'm not sure about his age because he's more and more mysterious with every episode but his family could be that old. Somehow he reminds me of a certain Simon Renard, a Spanish nobleman who was an ambassador of Spain in France and England (in the 16th century during the reign of Bloody Mary) and the wery person who acted as her matchmaker when she married Philip of Spain. The same family name could indicate the same family even if they belong to different branches.
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Ummm...are we just gonna ignore the fact that the captain drank nick's blood which the show has already established takes away a hexenbeast's powers??? Or am I missing something
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no, she gets it.
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Maybe he doesn't have any powers to take away as the Captain is only half hexenbeast?
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The writers can go in lots of ways for "living with humans" For starters: if there are millions (or a billion) Wessen out there, then making private Wessen-only communities would be tough. In today's informational age as well as equality rights... trying to hide all of these "special communities" would be very difficulty. Enough people of proper standing get rejected from these "communities" and the question becomes "what makes them so special, is this a cult?"

Besides, it's comfortable. Staying with humans they have access to all of the cool stuff we do without having to worry about importing. The down-side is they have to make sure they don't "Vamp Out" in public.

There are probably other logical reasons: but those stick out the most in my mind. Segregating might have worked in the Industrial age... but in the Information Age it's nearly impossible to hide.
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Why are the Wesen determined to live amongst humans? Two words: Panera Bread.
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Wesen Council is straight from Buffy with the Watcher's Council. Threw me out of the story because it was such a direct rip-off. The Juliette story line is just annoying; SO hoping for massive payoff to make it worth watching that.
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I hate to break it to you, but in literature a group watching from the shadows calling itself "The Council" is hardly specific to Buffy tVS.

And beside, that was "The Watcher's Council" and only called the council when trying to abbreviate it.
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Just when I thought Julliette storyline was becoming interesting (I mean her passion to Renard) she's back to being an empty space. She saw a huge hole in her livingroom and didn't think of using her phone until the morning?! Come on! Why wouldn't she at least try to open or break a window and get out? would you just stay on the tiny edge of a bottomless hole and not try to get out? She's awful. I hope the anti-passion cure doesn't work and we get to see some Julliette-Renard action again otherwise this is getting too weak...
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it was all in her head... it was a hallucination and she probably wasn`t the most lucid person (the potion definitely affected her brain) to do things other not tripping people would normally do... the sink hole most probably was the dark hole in her memory and the lights represented the neurons that started to fire up. in the last scene the lights started to move faster and she started to hear Nick's voice, a sign that her memory is coming back.
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Her phone fell out of her hand and into the hole. She didn't think about using it because she didn't have it.
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it fell out of her hand when she tried to answer it...she could have used it before that. I agree with krismaz, even if it was all in her head, she could have done SOMETHING. like sleeping on the stairs, really? phone, break a window or something...I just feel like they make her a lot dumber than she should be, she's a vet for goodness sake. Maybe she doesn't have good common sense but she's not an idiot. Sorry for the rant: the character of Juliette has always annoyed me lol.
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she was halluncinating, looking at an immense void, its not like she can think properly.. her normal instincts told her to run away or run up, which did not work.. she was terrified.. she used to be annoying, yes, but I guess she will be better by the end of season..
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Let's talk about something else:
they should work on the correct pronunciation of Wesen (and some of the other German words) Wesen has a long 'e' like Weesen and it's certainly not wessen. I think it's great they keep the German connection with Grimm and I think it's great Renard speaks proper french!
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You're right. The - bad - use of German had been subject of debate in these pages before. (To be fair, I think Monroe's pronunciation has gotten better over time, so maybe someone's listening.)
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Wesen history, in flashback, ancient history with old gritty clothes!
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Adalind had a Wesen nature, that died off because of Nick. (That was fun, by the way, to see Adalind get some consequences that really bugged her.) I think the reason that Wesen continue to live among humans is because, for the most part, they ARE humans. Also, hopefully, they're really scared of being hunted down by super cool, don't mess with me, Grimms.
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I was certain all of us plus the ginga were gonna get put outta our misery with the ginga falling down the black/memory hole, but no such luck.
What is the story there? We live in an era of non-stop market research with every TV show no matter how weak, spawning about 57 focus groups, Grimm producers have got to know how much the show's fans dislike the Juliette character.
I really thought she was gonna exit stage left last night but once again the ginga failed us all. Why? Does she have a special relationship with a producer?
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sorry..i like Juliette.
I might not be too fond of the storyline but I still have hope she will be part of the grimm team someday
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:Raises Hand:
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So Juliette huddled and stared at a hole in her floor the entire episode, and here I was doubting her importance to the show.
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In her defense, she was freaked out. The door wouldn't open for her and the stairs weren't working. Though I'd personally try breaking the windows and/or scream for help.

Unless she thought she was tripping ballz, which I would have also assumed was happening to me. Even IF there were some strange magic potions going on.
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True, but the ENTIRE episode...? I laughed out loud when they returned to her after the opening sequence and it was obviously the next day because it was daytime, and she was still sitting in the same spot with the same look on her face. And how many times did her phone ring? Nobody thought to go check her out?...
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1) Yeah, that makes the most sense. The "big hole" in her life seems like a pretty obvious metaphor.
2) Well in episode 4 of this season they investigated a car crash without any known murder. In episode 5 they fielded a grand theft report without knowing someone was dead. You could justify it with Renard gives out the assignments and sends Nick to the weird ones.
3) What has royalty aways done, acquire power. My guess is the council is more of a body of security.
4) I'd like WWII be mentioned again. We saw Hitler was a Wessen and had the coins... But overall I think they do a good job of adding Wessen history and lore.
5) One could argue the best way to hide is in plain sight.
6) When Adalaind returns will he have a choice?
7) I think Renard realizes he's safer relying on Nick than any of the alternatives. I think he'll still hold his cards as close to his chest as possible but he knows his family is already turning on him.
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Those hallucinations were sooo annoying in how much time they took... I just don't care! I want that Hispanic witch from that episode where children were being stolen to just come and restore her memory somehow. I just desperately do not want the restoration of Juliette's memory to actually occur on screen unless she is turning into some kind of magic made wesen, or storybook princess with powers....idk I just never again want to watch scenes of her talking tearfully or sitting afraid anywhere...
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Eh, I thought it was a huge step back. Nick is turning red from the potion - oops, he's better. The robbers seemed to be all over the place: why did they need two homes? And the show ground to a halt every time they cut back to Juliette. They were trying to maintain the fast pace of the first episode, but they didn't have that much to talk about.
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*raising hand* I want to know more about Wesen history. I think it's a very cool world that must kind of run in tandem with ours, but just unseen. Mind you, you can understand some of them getting tired of being 'in the shadows' regardless of the punishment. They probably want to be in the 'mainstream' world with all that goes with it - coffee shops, cinemas, well paid jobs with dental.........

However I have to say these are the things I would want to do if in the 'Grimm' world - 1. Kill Juliette; I'm sorry about this, but the woman is beyond annoying. As a fellow redhair I've *tried* to like her, I really have; I've tried to grit my teeth and ignore the ever increasing mess she's making of all around her and like her as a person - but it's impossible. She's all big eyes, quivering bottom lip and flippy red hair. where's her backbone; where's her get up and go? Why has it seemed to have got up and run? She'd make the fainting, ethereal heroine from one of Barbara Cartland's flowery romance novels want to tell her to 'develop some backbone and stop wilting all over the place already.'

2. Renard is Royal; therefore he's unlikely to be that trustworthy; not his fault, I doubt any of them are. However as he (probably) wants the power (or something else) his brother has then, for now, it's a case of 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend' - when said brother is dead/locked up/sent to the naughty step to think about what he's done, *then* it's time to watch his every twitch like a hawk. Besides it seems that most of Renard's 'Resistance' pals have either been eaten by his brother's furry assassins or are attempting to dig holes to hide in and aren't really any help - so *he* needs the Grimm Gang more than they need him right now.

3. Munroe is better than Hank - there I said it. I'm not being mean - well, not intentionally anyway, but you have to admit that the latter just has this permanently worried/confused/pensive look on his face, like he *still* thinks this all either a really horrible dream bought on by that weird cheese they serve with the nachos in cinemas or he's in a coma in a ditch somewhere - the look on his face tells me he'd even be happy with the latter scenario so long as the Grimm world didn't exist.

Finally I would give Nick a swift punch or kick to the head, or even drug him, so that he'd no longer cared less about the afore-mentioned Juliette. Not only because I would've killed her by now, burnt her corpse and spread the ashes to the four winds to make sure she *definitely* didn't come back, but also because he just looks like some lovesick (or emotionally kicked) lickle puppy when he looks at/is around her (depending on whether she's been sucking the face off Renard recently or not) - not good when he's supposed to be fighting to protect the law abiding Wesen-worlders and the humans.

The man needs to *focus*, not be constantly wondering what the redheaded amnesiac is wandering blindly into at any given, usually life endangering, moment. Besides no one is as life threateningly disaster prone as Juliette, seriously, *NO--ONE*. I probably wouldn't even need to kill her, just make sure no one was around to save her for a few brief moments. I'd give it no more than 9 minutes and 8 seconds without someone to rush in at the last moment to save her and she'd be dead.

Oh and PS. I love Munroe; he rocks the Blutbad AND the *reliable* sidekick angles - unlike hapless Hank who just stumbles around getting his head handed to him by the bad guys (usually the furry variety) at regular intervals (obviously not literally handed to him......yet). So Munroe would take the place of the unhappy Hank as nonplussed Nick's new right hand man/Blutbad. I'm sure that Monroe would be someone who *would* make the Grimm keep his head in the game.

Which of course would mean the cop would probably join Juliette in the Human Hereafter - or I might be generous and just blank his memory, feed him some fake line about his being a wedding cake maker from Alaska, whose favourite thing in the whole world was making cutesy-wutesy little fondant roses, and then send him on to his new, *very* safe, little life - far, *far* away. Yeah, I know - that's kind of evil, making him something he's probably going to suck at; but that's just how I roll. Besides, he annoys me and should be grateful I'm letting him live........unlike the permanently endangered Juliette. However don't think of it as me killing her, just as me doing a public service and putting her out of our (mainly my) misery.

Of course I am *not* in the 'Grimm' world so this all just, wistful, wishful thinking on my part - but hey, a woman's got to have dreams right? ;)
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I don't know if it was mentioned but Renard is now human....Wonder how that will play out....
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Not really...Nick had to bite Adalind and Adalind bit Nick too so the hexen removal spell needed them both to bleed (not sure why, maybe for her to ingest the mixture of bloods or for his blood to get directly into her bloodstream).

Also, Nick's blood was mixed with some other stuff that might have changed or diluted it`s hexen removing properties. (chemicals do that sometimes when in mixtures)
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didn't even think of that.... I thought it was just the blood, but that makes a lot of sense
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RIGHT!!! i was wondering if they are going to try and create a different mythology for him because he is "half-cast" 'cause it just didn't get addressed @ all.....but I guess we shall see
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1. Definately. The hole is maybe the symbol for the lost memories and Juliette had to face them.
2. Don't even ask questions about logic. It's a tv show. And, uhm, maybe there was a homicide during the robbery. With so much shooting, they had to hit someone.
3. Well, the royals do what royals do: look pretty and rich and having some family troubles. the council is just for the dirty jobs.
4. Me!
5. Well, they had to live anywhere. Or do you know some place on earth to hide effectly?
6. No, definitely not. Not until season 5 or 6. Too much potential for further stories.
7. Don't know yet. But he is not as good as Rosalee.
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There wasn't any killing at the first bank job, only the one with the security guard running out and the woman getting caught by the bullets that went through him.
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my theory is the hole in Juliette's floor is actually her seeing the synapses in her brain firing as it tries to fill in all the memory loss she's had.

but it annoyed me how she just sat by it and on the stairs for so long.. uh woman, you were sitting RIGHT BESIDE A WINDOW. break the damn thing and jump out.
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What I was annoyed at was how long Juliette spent beside the sinkhole in their house. She arrived at the house in the evening/night. One day passed and then Nick was at the Wesen bar in the evening. Then came another day when he and Hank tracked the bank robbers, and in the evening Nick called Juliette, which means she apparently sat helplessly beside the imaginary hole for 48 hours. Grow a spine, Juliette. Even if it was a bad trip, she still seemed lucid enough to think about what the hole was about.

I've had a problem with Juliette before because she is underused. She only gets a few minutes of screen time in every episode, and I'd really like to see female characters in the spotlight, not just in this show but in all of them. At some point at the end of season one I thought she was on her way to toughen up, especially after she was kidnapped by the Dämonfeuer. I thought she would find out what Nick is and become a worthy sidekick to him. However, after her memory loss she has reverted back to a mouse.

And this episode gave me another reason to be annoyed at her character: I don't know what she is thinking. Her inner thoughts are a complete mystery to me, and they are not revealed by her actions. What was she thinking during the 48 hours when she (apparently without going to the toilet) sat beside a bottomless hole? If she could not for some reason open the door, why didn't she break the window beside it? Did she think it was all just a hallucination and she was just waiting for it to pass, or did she think she was going mad? I know, a 40 minute episode doesn't give much time to explore all characters in depth, but it's just frustrating not to know at all what is going on in her head. At some point I would hope the show would focus a little on Juliette and where her character is going.
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Junk episode IMO. The episode story was boring, and the directing, editing, etc., were all bad. In the bank robbery scene, they used an annoying shaky cam, very rapid cuts, and played the images at what seemed to be about twice the normal speed. Was that supposed to get us excited? It didn't work. And just how many times did they cut to Juliette only to have her stare down the hole for a few seconds? Far too many.

It's already hard to swallow that every murder in town is committed by a wesen, that Nick and Hank gets every one of those cases, and that the Asian cop is always at the scene to inform Nick and Hank what went down. It doesn't get easier when they add *more* silly coincidences to it. Monroe just happened to be at the bank when some wesen decided to rob it. Then Nick and Hank, the two homicide detectives who seem to be handling *all* the murders in the city, are called to the scene. At least the Asian guy wasn't there to explain it to them.
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1. Yes, I do. Cause towards the end that sound she had been hearing started coalescing into a voice saying something like (I don't remember exactly what it was) I have to tell you the truth. I think the hallucination is symbolism for the hole in her memory of her time with Nick.
2.That is something I've been pondering since the beginning, since they have also handled missing persons which I thought was a bit weird. Maybe it was a slow crime day with Homicide and they have them do other stuff?
3. Sit around look pretty and try to over throw one another.
4.:Raise hand:
5. Cause humans are everywhere! I would imagine even if there was just Wesen communities they'd still get the stay human tourist.
6.Possibly.... if Renard can convince Nick that he's a goooood Wesen and you know he don't want to do the horizontal tango with Juliette.
7.I don't think so. In the past, he's been involved in some shady dealings.
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Agree that deeper exploration into the Wesen world would have been preferable. Especially since those three criminals were uber-annoying archetypes that made us want to pull out our hair.

On the plus side, maybe this will mean more for Rosalee to do? Please?
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Juliette's complete lack of curiosity is one of the reasons I can't stand the character. How much weird crap needs to happen before she demands some answers? The writers are doing a terrible job making her seem like a real person.

I did really love this episode though. I love it when they give us some of the mythology. I'm glad Renard is out in the open now, and Nick can actually tell him when a crime involves a Wesen. I also loved Nick, Hank, and Monroe working together. More Monroe is always better.

1. At first I thought Juliette's hallucinations were caused by the counter-spell, but at the end of the episode I wasn't sure. The voice she was hearing kept saying something about telling her the truth, so it's possible she was getting the memory of Nick when he was about to tell her everything... or it's some Wesen who's targeted her. I guess we'll find out.

2. lol it's Grimm!

3. I think the Royals just plot to rule the world.

4. *raises hand

5. I don't think the Wesen have any choice. They have to live like anyone else, most of them have the same basic needs as regular humans.

6. I think Nick will get over it.

7. I doubt it, but maybe. I kinda hope he is, I like the idea of the resistance.
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Was a great episode, i agree it was completely stupid for Nick to not keep the key on him at all times before.

His aunt did, so he should of followed suit, at least he has wised up now.
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More than anything I just loved that Nick kept looking over his shoulder during that scene with Hank when clearly any wesen/ royal/ adalaide/ antagonist in that red car in the street could see him clearly put that key around his neck....
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