Grimm "The Other Side" Review: Battle Hymn of the Wesen Mom

Grimm S02E08: “The Other Side”

In last night’s episode of Grimm, “The Other Side,” helicopter parenting ran amok as a Wesen kid took out his entire quiz team and Adalind surfaced in Europe to raise hell for Portland. However, the biggest question of the night came not from the story but from the episode's weird ending: Namely, why is Nick such a jerk?

"The Other Side" began with the ongoing saga of Juliette and Renard as she and Nick attended a ceremony honoring the captain and then Renard awkwardly drove Juliette home after Nick and Hank left for the A plot. We saw Renard’s obsession had gotten worse as he stared at Juliette in the shower a la Psycho before stumbling off into the night and punching an innocent bystander in the face. Renard: 1, Grocery Man: 0!

Meanwhile, a high-school academic decathlon participant was brutally murdered and it wasn’t long before another team member bit the dust, prompting Nick and Hank to believe the murderer was another teammate whose motive was to take out his competition. After they questioned team star Pierce—who was a Galapagos Tortoise Wesen—Nick and Hank found the decathlon coach murdered as well.

It turned out that Pierce’s mother, a geneticist and total hard-ass—as her “do homework to take your mind off your friend’s murder” approach to parenting proved—had tinkered with her son’s DNA in-utero, adding genes of the Lowen (a super-aggressive Wesen) to give him an edge. The splicing created a Jekyll/Hyde personality; Pierce was now killing anyone who stood in the way of his decathlon greatness... without knowing. When he found out he'd done, he was devastated and tried to commit suicide, but ultimately Nick was able to save him. Although the poor boy ended up in prison, so maybe that wasn’t such a kindness.

Everyone’s favorite Hexenbiest returned as Adalind hooked up with Renard’s Royal brother. From Ro-Bro we learned that Renard is half Hexenbiest, the son of their Royal father’s Hexenbiest mistress. Renard and Monroe interacted at the spice shop as Renard sought a cure for his Juliette obsession, and the episode ended with Monroe delivering some bad news: Not only is there no singular cure, things are going to get worse for the captain.

While enjoyable, the episode's hard sci-fi twist of gene-tampering was not only difficult to swallow, it also brought up all sorts of new questions about the Wesen—questions the episode never answered—and served to point out how little we actually know about the Wesen world. For instance, if you can isolate and transplant the genes that make up individual Wesen species, can you get rid of them? Is being a Wesen something you can “cure?” Fundamentally, what is a Wesen and where did they come from?

Also, how is a prize-winning geneticist unable to afford a better lawyer for her son? I mean there were multiple witnesses to his split-personality insanity! He was obviously mentally unbalanced, so how's come Nick and Hank were fine with callously spitting platitudes about the deck being stacked against him as he was marched off to prison (and not juvie!)?

Up until the ending, “The Other Side” was a great Wesen-of-the-week episode that did a nice job of balancing Adalind’s plotting and mythology with cop-procedural action. It was fun to see Monroe geek out about the spice shop and Hank get upset about the Grimms’ bloody past. Plus Renard is such a strong character that I even liked the Juliette storyline. But Nick and Hank’s cynical shrugging-off of a mentally unbalanced kid who desperately needed help not only felt out of character for both of them, it also destroyed the whole premise of Grimm—that Nick, despite being a Grimm, is still a good guy.

A good guy doesn’t say, “Oh, well!” when a kid is thrown into jail instead of getting the psychiatric help he needs. A good guy doesn’t learn that the kid’s mother is the true culprit, in messing with her son mentally and genetically, and then casually watch as the kid gets thrown under the bus. A good guy would at least testify or something, right? After watching Nick cover up his own murders and bend the rules for his friends, seeing him not do anything for a Wesen who truly needs him is more than upsetting—it runs contrary to Nick’s fundamental role on the show.

Last night Nick was the real bad guy, and this is a twist I neither like nor am confident that the writers of Grimm will explore past this episode.


QUESTIONS:

– Is that police station intern going to be a new main character? He’s obviously going to be important, otherwise Grimm wouldn’t have wasted a scene on him, right?

– Why are the Royals prejudiced against the Hexenbiests?

– As they are clearly not Hexenbiest, what type of Wesen are the Royals?

– If Pierce’s Wesen species is from the Galapagos, why is he white?

– Does Rosalee just have a list of weird things Monroe needs to ask people walking into the shop, and if so, can I get a copy?

– What do you think will happen to Renard?

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I think the real question should be, what happened to Wendell o.O
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Thoughts:



- Adalind needs to go - I'm so sick of her!

- Been rooting for Juliette/Renard from the start, so yay!

- Nick's not a jerk - he's a cop, and has to make hard choices sometimes.

- Juliette... I hate the crap Bitsie Tulloch's been getting from the fans/viewers in general ("Why hasn't this heifer gotten her memory back yet?" is one example of their idiocy), but I agree, the amnesia subplot is wearing quite thin. She needs some resolution quickly before she re-descends into being the Damsel Scrappy.
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You agree with something that you consider idiotic?
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I have to admit that I was suprised to see the kid in prison at the end of the show. In the eyes of the world I think he would easily be diagnosed with dissociative disorder and in a mental hospital. Why don't the creatures have their own justice system? They all seem to require special foods, medicines, rituals etc. So, knowing that from time to time their kind are going to commit crimes against humans and get caught - why not a system for them?
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They have a justice system: its called the Verrat and they slain whatever half-breed they may find, regardless age or gender.
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I couldn't sign in all day yesterday, it was so annoying!!



Several just comments on this recap...Nick is a cop first and foremost, is he supposed to dwell on cases? Once he leaves the interrogation room, the matter is in the DA's hands, he has no say in what sort of punishment the kid gets. If Nick did, um, think about how fair minded Nick and probably a lot of other cops are..they would go crazy. The kid was also likely at least 17, so an adult in the eyes of the law (he could very well have still been awaiting trial). And then Nick is an inexperienced Grimm, I believe he has had contact with Lowens before and they won't go down. He just knew this one could fight and was only seeing the Lowen face, not the kid face that we and Hank were seeing. That likely is why we will have some scenes later in the series where because of things like that, Nick get locked up into a mental institution for evaluation and we have next year's Halloween episode. It wasn't a huge issue here because Hank knows and the mother realized she couldn't stop that part of her son. Also, split personality is hard to proof because a lot of people thing it is not real.



Yes, the mother was the real bad guy here, but cases like this are why Rosalee and Juliette need to be on board...both would have pointed that out. Nick is a little more black and white and I am pretty sure there is no real human crime there and unlikely there is something in the Grimm lore. So...what was Nick to do?



Um...just because the species were found there, doesn't mean they are from there, everything thing you hear sort of sounds like they avoided conflict, so they are likely from somewhere else.



1. Yes, my first thought was that he is the newest assassin sent by Eric, this time to be a wolf in sheep clothing as it were. My next thought was, could Kelly have found a real Nordic type along her paths and even though this kid was blonde, maybe Nick has a half sibling?



2. They are witches so just replace the word and apply the stereotypes but assume they are all true.



3. I had thought some sort of lion type creature, but I really started to thing they might be human.



4. I answered this above.



5. Yes, and that would be funny to see...



6. Overall or just with this Juliette thing? Well, to apply OUAT lore, true love can break any curse, but who has that in this show? I think this leads to the reveal to Nick of what Renard is (since it sounds like Monroe was foreshadowing a battle between the two sometime soon and since it seems like it really hurts Renard to change, that will likely pull Nick up from delivering a killing blow).
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Yeah I gotta believe so... and he's probably not human either, cuz let's face it- 3 outta 4 'people' aren't!



Cuz they ate their ancestors!



I think reptilian types.



Hmmm.....



If you secure a copy, I'll take one as well.... One teaspoon of flumenhagen, only one!



Hopefully, this leads to a Nick-Renard showdown in the short term, but then (an enemy of my enemy etc.) alliance against the royals in the long run!



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Can't wait to see Nicks face when Monroe remembers where he has seen Renard and tells him about it.
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Can't wait to see Renard's face when anyone figures out Juliette has the exact same problem as he has.
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Stop beating up Nick for doing his job. Period. Bring on more Renard, and lose Juliette, who is only around to purse her lips, pout, blink her misty eyes, paint her eyebrows DARK brown (I actually thought at one point they would jump off her face and attack someone), and be annoying. Can't stand much of Adalind...at...all. More Rosalee and Monroe. Bring it!!
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Also, did anyone else get faked out by Nick's cell phone AGAIN?
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I would like to defend NICK..



About the kid, i think him and his friends are 18 (-ish) at least i heard one of them was, being in the same school level i imagine they are all 18. So it make sense he went to jail and not juvie. And Nick wasnt not bad at all, when he punched that boy all he saw was the lowen until Hank spoke out. Yes you can argue split personality case, but people died, so somebody gotta pay for that. And from his last scene you can see even if he went to a shrink, as long as the kid feels threatened, the lowen side will take Over. Its in his genes. So yeah , the lowen is a violent criminal and he is The lowen. HE may not have asked for it, but he got it, the only way out was if his mom reverse what she did before the crimes. Reverse a genetic manipulation...



U gotta understand gene manipulation to that level is controversial, experimental and not yet really legal in any country. So i imagine the mother knowing this, never told anyone ,especially her son. Besides its risky! cause u never know how the hybrid (chimera) will turn out and the mother should have remembered this(silly mom-heart in the right place- brain not so there). The prize winning geneticist she may be but it was the mom part that did this!.



His past actions will back this up: Nick have always tried to help a wessen who could be helped. Unlike his ancestors.
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All I'm thinking is: What about all the half Lowen-half Genio wesen who never hurt a fly? What about the half hexenbiest-half Royal Prince for that matter? What about the potential half blutbad-half fuchsbau children of Munroe and Rosalee? Am I supposed to believe Pierce its the ONLY half-breed ever seen in this show?!

Why does Pierce deserve special consideration when compared to the hundreds of half wesen children out there who never killed their team mates. Why is HE the victim and not the people he killed.
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He wasn't a half breed. He was a genetically engineered double wesen with a multiple-personality disorder.
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Every wesen in this show should have a multiple personality disorder by now, by virtue of pretending to be human. If regular wesen can control themselves, then I demand a lot more from genetically engieneered ones.
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WORD!!
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Jail surprised me I thought they were going to get him out or put in a mental hospital.
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Also...wouldn`t it be fun if the criminal for once was a real human? I`m starting to feel like all the crimes in the world are committed by wessen and all humans are innocent (well, they could have a wessen as a prime suspect just to prove in the end that the human was the evil one)
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Human crimes? There are like a hundred anonymous non-Grimms at the precinct to handle those, and they're probably not nearly as interesting. The captain is an undercover half-Wesen who knows he has a Grimm on staff, maybe he pulls strings to make sure Nick gets the Wesen cases.
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lol...just saying it would make a cool twist in the story... the captain might pull strings but not even he can know who the murderer is ( he probably just gives Nick all the cases that resemble animal attacks. Humans can fake those too)

(btw...ty for JFK input...i missed that one)
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watching this episode i had a feeling Juliette decided to go with Nick and even dress up so pretty just to meet Renard. there was something in her eyes that worried me. I mean. before she met Renard she was perfectly fine and the progression of this thing from seeing Renard to having hallucinations about him was pretty fast. Renard is a champion at self control and he knows exactly what`s wrong with him but Juliette has neither of these advantages... if things continue to progress like this i`m more afraid of Juliette turning homicidal then Renard (Monroe did say they will try to get rid of everyone that stands between them)



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Good point. So far, no one knows Juliette is feeling the exact same way as Renard does, not even Renard. For all we know, Munroe's cure may not work because of this.
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PS: Apparently the royals live in a museum in Vienna. It's a beautiful building from the outside, so I totally understand why they chose it. (But we do have nice palaces here too, why not use a shot of one of those?)
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Royals = prince charming's family, Hexenbiester = evil queen type of person; I can see why they are not getting along well. But right now I'm totally shipping Charming and Snow White! Never liked Nick with Juliette anyway.



No, being a Wesen is not an illness and can't be cured the way you think. I'd explain but let's just say I'm a biologist and what the mother said is also impossible the way she described it.



About the jail-scene: Pierce was already 18, so he ended up in jail, not juvie. Also it usually takes time until a trial starts and until then where do they put him? So I guess he is going to stay in jail until a jury or a psychiatrist decide that he is mentally unstable and needs help; to me Nick didn't do anything wrong. Except for not arresting the mother, because unsanctioned experiments on human embryos are a real reason to end up in jail and she confessed... guess they should hire a lawyer or biologist to the show if they want it to make more sense. ;)
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I don't know how the state of Oregon handles embryo experimentation. It's likely very closely linked to their abortion/stem cell-related laws. Which, since Oregon is where all the New Hampshire hippies go to retire, is probably "life begins at parents' first date," so yeah, the Mom should be arrested, tried, and given a considerable sentence.
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Weren't those kids all 18-ish? I think that's why he went to prison and not juvie. And I think it's kind of weird, so you're either one wesen or the other. aren't there like new species because of mixing with genes? a turtle with fangs or something?



And why he's white: I guess since Darwin's time they have mingled with other folks.



Am I the only one that thinks Renard is hot? :))
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Josie really felt sorry for the boy, and seemed very upset with Nick about him being put in jail. Nick is a cop, it's not HIS decision whether the boy would be put in jail or a psyche ward! Wouldn't that be a judge's decision, or maybe a jury? And the only way they'd even know that he had split personality is for Nick to explain all that Wesen stuff, duh! Nick apparently realized that the boy's more aggressive personalit would continue to kill off the competition, so the only choice to prevent future deaths, while also keeping the Wesen stuff quiet is to keep his mouth shut, and the boy goes to jail. I bet we see the boy again though.
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So Renard's father had a Hexenbiest as mistress. Could it be Adalind's mother?

Loved the reference when the Royal said "Would you like to know how my half brother ended up in the farther reaches of the Louisiana purchase?" But does that mean the Royals are very long lived, or was he just showing off?
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I think he was just showing off. It was still clever though.
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Wasn't Adalind's mother into Renard herself..? that would be very.. ew.
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Mhh i thought Adalind's mother was kind afraid of Renard... If am right, and also Adalind's mother is Renard's mother, then the Royals must be something terrible. Cause she wouldn't have been afraid of his hexen-half.



Personally i really dont think the Royals are human. They must have some powers, or else no one would be afraid of them. OR some cape buffalo-wessen would have taken care of them a long time ago!.
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I don't remember seeing any quasi-romantic interactions between Sean and Catherine. Of course, even if there was, and even if she was his mother, some Wesen *cough*Coyotl*cough* are into that sort of thing. Not to mention the fact that European royal families tend to be notoriously inbred to begin with.



And if Catherine is Sean's mother, thus making Adalind his half-sister, there's still no blood relation between Adalind and Eric. Chess, you are cleared for takeoff!
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Lucky for us, we have such an expert on European royalty on the site. Wow. *cough*
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I'm no expert. It's just pretty well-documented.
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An interesting episode and finally more Renard. In my opinion he is one of the most interesting characters on the show. As far as Juliette is concerned; I could not care less. She still hasn't grown on me, I'm sorry to say. As stanking says; she is simply too boring. Rosalee is indeed more interesting.



Also, how could Nick have helped Pierce stay out of jail? There is no way he could have done that, I think; not unless he wanted to blow the lid on himself and the Wesen. Right? And as far as I understood it, the kid is receiving psychiatric help for his so-called 'psychosis'.



I also agree with Agibear. Although I am not German (but Dutch), it really, really bugs me that the writers keep putting in German words which are so incredibly mispronounced and inaccurate. This is really getting stupid.



Also, Hank's shock with the bloody side of the various Wesen was totally unbelievable. In his years as homicide detective, he has probably seen a lot worse, done by humans to each other. So, no.



What I found quite shocking to be honest (and I do bear in mind this is just a make-believe TV show) was that the Grimms murdered an entire species simply because they were Wesen, although they did not harm anyone (these innocue something). That reminded me of a German dictator some 60 years ago... I guess the Grimms weren't very nice people, after all.

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Another week of boring Juliette. Man, I miss Rosalee!
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...but if Nick had helped Pierce stay out of jail, then we wouldn't have gotten that foreboding dishwashing scene at the end, which was some of the kid's best acting all episode.
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Are the Royals wesen or are they human? Have we ever seen Captain Renard or his brother Eric expose their wesen counterparts? We have seen the captain partially change, but not completely. And now it appears that what he is trying so hard to suppress is in fact his hexenbiest half. Interesting! I think that if his obsession with Juliette continues to increase, he just may end up revealing himself to Nick.
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Maybe the captain can't fully change since he's only half-hexenbiest.
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A great episode and interesting Wesen. I still feel we aren't learning enough fast enough. I look forward to more!
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This was a mixed episode for me. I liked it overall. But I think the writers dropped the ball with this one.



You have a extremely intelligent Wesen that Nick meets in the kid's mom and no questions are asked? No questions as to how she spliced her son's Wesen genes. To the point that it gave him dissociative identity disorder (multiple personality). I was thinking the whole time, that this is going to be a big reveal episode for Nick. That he would ask how she spliced his genes and maybe get some science on how the Wesen's came to be and what makes them what they are. That, for me, would have been great. I hope that they realize this mistake and bring back the mother at some point in time. It seems as if they are coasting right now, and they shouldn't be. They should be deepening the mythology of the show. Nick, though competent with his new fighting skills and having Monroe and the rest of his scooby squad set. He still knows little to nothing about the world of the Wesen. He is the first Grimm of the 21st century thus far, and his mother still hasn't come back in order to teach him more things. I like that they were doing the slow build between Juliette and Renard. But it has taken far too much time and far too much screen time. We still need some of the particulars from the Wesen world and this would have been the perfect lead to see it in a way that adds a whole new level to the story, that has nothing to do with the Royals. Dropped the ball writers.



Now for the kid. That was sloppily done as well. He wouldn't have gone through trial that fast to be in a prison where he was assigned dish duty. He would be in jail waiting likely his arraignment and evaluation by a psychological expert since literally everyone saw his personality change. It seemed they sped past that with Nick and it just seemed sloppy.



Overall I enjoyed it, it was a good story. But it should have been so much better.



Questions;

-Well it was the intern from Bones. So who knows.

-My guess is that it is one of those we need you but don't like you type of thing. Or maybe because they fear their witchcraft. Who knows. It is a storyline that should be interesting though.

- Well it seems that only Renard is half hexenbeast. So perhaps they aren't, perhaps they can see them like the Grimm and exploit them. And this being the 8th episode of the second season. I think we should know by now. Or at least have a better hint. I like that they are not rushing the reveals. But this mythology can go so many ways. It seems like they could be heading for a rut if Nick still remains largely ignorant of the world and Renard and Juliette doesn't get something going.

- There are blond haired and blue eyed Mexicans purportedly descended from the Conquistadors. Let's see the Voyage of the Beagle was 1831, Columbus was 1492, Magellan, Balboa, Solis and others were all traveling the Pacific in the 1500s. Between then and 1831 it is conceivable that others traveled their as well. Stayed in areas including the Galapagos islands and bred with the natives. Plus ancestors travel.

- I am sure someone is writing the fan fiction for that right now.

- Hopefully he will either kidnap Juliette or if they adhere to the lore, kiss her she falls in love with him and they have to deal with that. Either way, it has been long enough. Something needs to happen. Before it gets stagnant and people start losing interest.
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I thought they might go with the multiple personality disorder/psychiatric facility idea for him too, but what good would that do? Human medication wouldn't affect his wessenness and might even make him worse. Talk therapy might help him decrease the pressure his mom put on him, but wouldn't override the genetic programming that he has undergone.
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I liked the case-of-the-week. I didn't know how was guilty until the end. At first I thought it was the sleepy guy (usually it's the least suspicious guy). But in this case he was... just a sleepy guy. Why put him in the scene at all then?

So, Juliette gets home, picks the key from under a vase (instead of taking the house keys with her when she left home) not caring whether everybody saw her doing that, opens the door, then puts the key BACK under the vase? Is that a place to keep the house key? Are Americans that careless with their home safety?

So the new cop/intern is a guy. Doesn't Portland PD have any girls? Is it a "boys only" club?

Don't Wesen have doctors specialized in Wesen maladies to consult? They have to trust apothecaries (and in this case, Monroe, not even a bona fide apothecary)?

I think Royals are humans. Remember when Adalind's mom said that Renard was "barely human"? I think that meant human father + hexenbiest mother.
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Juliette left for the party with Nick all dressed up and stuff... maybe she thought that she will come back with him too so it was enough for Nick to bring one set of keys (those small evening bags can't hold as much as normal ones). Couples sometimes do this.

The potion was supposed to cleanse people's soul (no matter what species they are)... maybe that was her way of calling him evil (she referred to his soul not to the specie).
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Yes, maybe she didn't have her own keys. I just found it strange that she left the spare key under the vase. Where I come from that would be considered very careless.
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First I thought it was sleepy guy, then the coach, then the mom. Wrong on all 3 counts. Yay me!
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Best quotes, real or imaginary:

Nick - "He's a Lowen: competitive, aggressive, prone to violence."

Hank - "That's racial profiling, man!"



Monroe - "Do you have obsessive behavior or do you want obsessive behavior? We have something for both."

Monroe - "We have good news and bad. Mostly not so good."
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All I can do is repeat myself: Are there no germans left in Hollywood? I like this series, but Google Translate probably isn't the proper source for it's german words.



Firstly, it's pronounced vehsen, not vessen. And that is the only word the got right in this series. A "Blutbad" is a massacre where many people die. Monroe would be called a "Werwolf". And so on. Anyway, as this is the last season of Grimm, don't bother anyway.
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I'm sure there's some German speaking people in Hollywood, just like I'm guessing Hollywood has nurses. But either it costs too much money to consult for accuracy, or the writers are just too lazy to care. I often cringe at the angles used when starting an IV or drawing blood. And Hollywood loves to jam needles into necks, OMG!
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An ongoing problem. The way they used "Lowen" has little to do with the German word for lion (wrong pronunciation, wrong use of singular or plural).
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Are you familiar with the word that Adalind said right after "royal"? It sounded kind of like "lock-nogger". That guy I've seen in a hundred shows without learning his name said "what kind of man do you think me to be?" and she replied with something that sounded like "royal lock-nogger".
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According to the subtitles, the Royal chap asked the bartender for "lomharach". Sounds like a whisky, but Google doesn't know it. Later, Adalind thinks him to be a "Royal Lochnagar". Lochnagar actually is a Scottish distillery which produces the "Royal Lochnagar Single Malt" whisky. So she hinted at him being Royal by quoting a correct whisky with "Royal" in its name.
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Thank you. That was a very good answer. I thought that maybe that word was the name of the wesen species that the royals are, but I see now that it isn't. (So they can still be human).
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Thanks for mentioning the correct pronunciation. I don't know german (except for a few words), but I thought that their pronunciation had to be wrong if it's really spelled "wesen". Also, that word reminds me of the Swedish "vAsen" (the letter I wrote as an uppercase A should be the letter that looks like an a with two dots above), which means "entity", so I suspected that those words would be related. "Blut" means blood, right? What does "bad" mean? In Swedish, it means "bath". So Blutbad sounds like "bloodbath" to me.

I'm pretty sure that this won't be the last season. It's still getting OK ratings.
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All you're doing at this point is beating a dead Nuckelavee.
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I think the Royals are the real bastards and Renard the one who acts like a Prince. There, I said it.





Seriously tough, given Pierce as only reference, how can I ask the Royalty not to pursue their bastard brother when Nick himself couldn't avoid to put that poor kid in prison? Renard is neither this nor that, just like Pierce. It doesn't matter if he's a leader, that he built a life for himself or won over a friggin' grimm in his daytime job. All his family sees its a half-breed
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And now I have Cher's "Half-Breed" stuck in my head. Damn it.
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Does Rosalee just have a list of weird things Monroe needs to ask people walking into the shop, and if so, can I get a copy?

YES please!

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I think we're not supposed to care about or even notice things like how Nick didn't do enough to try to help this kid, just like we're not supposed to think about the large number of innocents who got their lives ruined by Emily Thorne on Revenge, or all the people who died as a result of letting a vampire live on TVD. This sort of thing is standard in shows that don't take themselves very seriously.

You think the idea of a Wesen gene (or one for each species) is problematic? Then how about the fact that every murder in the city is committed by a Wesen? How about the fact that even the innocent people that they meet often turn out to be Wesen? Are there that many Wesen in every city or is Portland special? Are Wesen the only people committing murders in other cities too?

Is there really only one s in Wesen?

Nick tells Hank that "those were different times" when Hank reads about Grimm killing innocent Wesen. Yeah, it was more than a year ago. No actually it's not even that, since other Grimm are probably killing innocent Wesen every day in other parts of the world. I assume that they kill entire families very often.

Are we ever going to meet another Grimm? How many Grimm are there? Hundreds? Only a handful? How many Wesen are there? Should be in the tens of millions worldwide, if Portland is typical. Those other Grimm must be really busy.
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I don't believe the Royal Families ARE Wesen. And that is why Renard is only half human, half Hexenbeist (from his mother's side).
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I agree. Why can't the royals just be human?
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Oh my god Josie, you can't just ask people why they're white.
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I think Nick probably realized that Pierce was going to dominate the Dojo in prison.
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Is that a Seinfeld reference?

Even if he thought that the kid would win his fights, that doesn't change the fact that he will be locked up for a long time (probably the rest of his life if he keeps killing everyone who bothers him in prison), or that he won't get the kind of help that he needs, or that that *other* people will die as a result.
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What are the choices?

In prison, they have group therapy and such. Plus I imagine he would be forced to see a court-mandated shrink on a regular basis.

In a regular asylum, with his super strength he'd just break out. I guess maybe if they kept him doped-up 24/7 but still.. he'd be a danger to people there.

In prison, well at least there are metal bars to keep him in and/or solitary confinement.

It's not a clear-cut answer on what to do. He's a genertically engineered Dr Jekyll and My Hyde... and his Mr Hyde will EAT YOUR FACE
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I'd say the writers didn't even realize they painted Nick as a bad Grimm with this episode. Disappointing.

Love the Renard storyline though.
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So I'm guessing Renards father was no Hexenbiest but some other kind of Wesen, does this mean that your 'Wesen side' comes from your mother? Renards father is a Wesen of some sort but he hasn't inherited anything from his father as far as I can tell. I wished they would explore relationships between two different kind of Wesen and the children they would have, it would explain a lot about how the Wesen world works.



I loved Michael Grant Terry as 'Wendell Bray' on Bones so I hope we see more of him in the future!
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I'm guessing your Wesen side definitely comes from your mother if your father is human...but then again, I could be wrong. I'm still curious to find out how Harmony's baby (half-Blutbad, half-Seelengut) turns out, but there's a 97.5% chance it'll never be addressed.
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I thought the royal families were Wesen as well, why would the Wesen world care if they weren't?
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Blutgut? Seelenbad?



What will be the result if Rosalee and Monroe marry and have children? You would think (from all the pure Wesen we've seen so far) that the Wesen have an aversion to mating with Wesen that aren't of their kind.
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At least Monroe and Rosalee are both canine Wesen, so it shouldn't be too much of an abomination. Y'know, like a liger or a mule.
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Certainly not as problematical as a Blutbad and a sheeple.



Do you ever get the idea that fans think about stuff like this a lot more than the writers?
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maybe... it usually goes with whatever the dominant gene is... so in Monroe/rosalind case it could a pure blutbad or a pure fuchsbau baby (you know, like how babies inherit eye, hair color)...otherwise all these species would have looked pretty mingled by now.

And, maybe, on rare occasions or with some incompatible species you get a half-breed... it would explain why all of these characters remained the same as in the books (that were centuries old)
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Renard's father was part of the Royal family. He had an affair with one of the maids who was a Hexenbeist. When the secret got out, the mother took Renard to the United States in order to avoid any further problems. They made that pretty clear when Renard's brother was talking to Adalind.
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