Homeland "Iron in the Fire" Review: The Art of Seduction

Homeland S04E04: "Iron in the Fire"


Baggage never completely goes away. You all know that even though Homeland has done significant damage to Carrie (personally and professionally), I've been ready and willing to roll with this Season 4 reboot. I've tried not to let it bother me that the key entry point of this new story involved Carrie screwing up at a job she didn't deserve in the first place. I let it slide that the show stupidly kept the baby in the picture simply to produce one extremely uncomfortable moment, only to almost immediately push it aside. I was okay with the forceful way that last week's episode suggested that Carrie and Quinn are Homeland's next fated romantic pair. But as much as I wanted to willingly overlook all that stuff and try to simply enjoy this version of the show for what it is, Homeland can't help but drudge up all that bad juju. This week it got to me. 

Here's the thing: I don't need Carrie to be a "good person," or "sympathetic," or "relatable." She's never been those things, and I admire that Homeland isn't interested in trying to make her be those things. But for me, there's something fascinating about her weighing the possibility of drowning a baby she doesn't want in order to escape from years of Brody-related pain and maternal responsibility. But her decision that the best way to keep Aayan calm and in the fold is to seduce him? That's cringeworthy in a whole new way, and it was an especially rash move from a strategic point of view. Right now is when Homeland needs to continue to harp on Carrie's competency in her job, but this behavior signaled that she hasn't changed much at all—she still gets too close to her targets, she still gets inappropriately intimate too quickly, etc. And that says nothing of what the experience did to Aayan, a college-age young man who didn't appear ready for the encounter at all. Your mileage may vary with this plot development. Some people were angrier about the aborted baby drowning than I was, and with good reason. But Carrie and Aayan getting it on just didn't work for me.


Of course, the previous 50 minutes of "Iron in the Fire" were better than those final two, particularly in the way that intrigue and possible conspiracies continued to emerge in Islamabad, despite a few annoying minor elements that just won't go away. Quinn didn't immediately appear at the detail office and profess his love for Carrie—and that's a good thing—but there were a couple moments, like when she was trying to calm Aayan down with a hug, where Homeland framed Quinn as something like a jealous lover. That wasn't necessary. The show also has this frustrating tendency to tell somewhat circular stories; by way of example, consider whatever it's doing with Saul at the moment. We knew that when he arrived in Islamabad in Episode 3, he wouldn't just return to the States in Episode 4, but to wipe away the great conversation that Saul and Carrie had last week by having her stop him from leaving the very next morning was a significant bummer. Though Saul needs to be part of this story, his poking around in Sandy's murder case and investigation of the ISI's (Inter-Services Intelligence) involvement is bound to undermine Carrie in a very unfortunate way. She has it handled! (Oh, well.)

However, once you bet past those problematic moments, "Iron in the Fire" illustrated one of the strengths of Season 4 so far: the scope of its story. So much of Homeland's real estate used to be dedicated to Brody, his family, and the relatively tight circle of people in his orbit, and while that provided the series with some tangible personal stakes to match the more grandiose BOMB VEST stories, it could also be suffocating at times. This season, the show has done a fine job of introducing a few new characters each week, building out its version of Islamabad, and trying to add layers of intrigue to the "Who Killed Sandy and Why?" mystery. That's a storytelling strategy that I can support, especially if it means that Homeland will continue to move forward in a more methodical fashion. 


A big chunk of "Iron in the Fire" centered on Team Carrie's tracking of the man Quinn noticed in the video of Sandy's beating, who we now know is Farhad Gazi. Those scenes showed the main characters doing their job, always a plus for a spy show, but also allowed for a few solid debates about protocol between Quinn and Carrie. The more time Homeland can spend building up their professional chemistry, the more we might be talked into buying their inevitable personal mingling. Dividing up the tasks between the pairings of Quinn and Carrie and Fara and Max provided a nice structure that built up tension as the former duo squabbled over what to do with Gazi once he identified their tail just as the latter duo learned that Aayan was traveling to meet his terrorist uncle who was supposedly killed in the season premiere's epic screw-up of a drone strike. That was a good, intense moment; it didn't necessarily produce life-or-death stakes, but it did illustrate the difficulties these people sometimes encounter in the field, and it forced Carrie to make a big decision as the leader. And while we didn't necessarily learn much about Gazi before he scurried away, there was no real need to keep his identity a mystery. Now he's a looming and somewhat unknown threat, which could be interesting.

Along with the news that Aayad's terrorist uncle is still alive and that ISI might've played a larger role in Sandy's murder, "Iron in the Fire" introduced Ambassador Boyd's husband, a disgraced former professor played by Mark Moses (Mad Men's Duck Phillips) who apparently helped Sandy steal the state secrets that he then traded away for useful intel. Professor Boyd took took those secrets straight off his wife's computer, which says a lot about the state of their marriage and the growing complexity of what initially appeared to be a drone strike gone wrong. Here, Mr. Boyd was blackmailed into continuing his nefarious actions by a mysterious woman who claimed that she benefited greatly from the previous arrangement, but no further details were provided. 


It's probably also worth noting that John Redmond, the jackhole who butted heads with Carrie over the Islamabad post in last week's episode, pretended to be super-helpful here, only for Homeland to reveal that he has guys tracking Carrie and her team's operations off-campus. That's not necessarily a surprise. Individually, these new characters aren't especially exciting or compelling, but together, they make up a much larger and hopefully more complex world than we're used to seeing from this show. The benefits of that are easy to see: Just like Carrie and Quinn, we're totally in the dark about exactly who knows what—and Homeland is telling a more varied story that's not just about two or three people. It's the kind of thing that will help sustain this new version of the series over the course of the season... as long as the writers' fascination with Carrie making BIG MOVES doesn't keep popping up over and over again.



NOTES

– Another week without Lockhart. Miss you, old friend. Or maybe not.

– I'll admit that I didn't see the survival of Aayan's uncle coming. I'm not sure that really suggests that Aayan is a full-blown terrorist, but it was a nice little twist nonetheless. 

– Fara wasn't entirely incompetent this week! Although she did weirdly think that Carrie was just going to help Aayan get to London, even though they learned that his terrorist uncle was still alive. How naive can she be?

– I feel like Homeland is just trolling us whenever someone mentions to Saul that he should go back home to be with his wife. That's not going to work out, everyone. 


How'd you feel about Carrie's big move here? Better or worse than the possible baby-drowning?


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Oct 29, 2014

Carrie has always been promiscuous. What else is new? Seducing Aayan to prevent him for being a flight risk made a whole lot of sense in the context. The baby thing, the sex thing are all very much in tune with the character. There are no morals involved here. There should but this is no who Carrie is. I've said it in another post and I'll say it again, it makes a lot more sense if you view Carrie as a weapon rather than a person.
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Oct 26, 2014
WTH!! I didn't know this season was being reviewed!!! I've been looking all over for these post-episode reviews.
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Oct 22, 2014
I have a feeling that she filmed the tryst and will use it to blackmail him into cooperating if she needs to. Or, maybe she was just horny, it happens ;-)
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Oct 21, 2014
Dam Carrie!!!
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Oct 21, 2014
Carrie, as a seductress; well, maybe to bring along painfully naive Aayan as a "stalking horse" (decoy--great expression). Quite a stretch for our cold stone spy along with the, I found ill-conceived, pregnancy. Thankfully, Carrie leaves the child behind to rejoin the Foreign Legion with her possible lover, Quinn, called to her side. Now, what's next?
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Oct 21, 2014
I don't know if that scene between Carrie and Aayan was supposed to be awkward. I presume it was, in which case, well done. I'm just not entirely sure what the end game is here or how banging Aayan comes into play. Maybe it's as simple as make him develop feelings for her so that when the time comes to put him back in play, his first reaction isn't about how he's not getting out of the country.

Carrie's silent pep talk to herself in the mirror before was clearly a nod that this was business, not personal.

After the past two seasons, I get nervous when I don't know where Homeland is going because it's entirely possible that it'll go completely off the rails.

The leash is still short, but it's still in hand.
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Oct 26, 2014
Wow!, Carrie is willing to take one for the team. That's what you call dedication, sometimes it really is "sleeping with the enemy", lol.
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Oct 21, 2014
Carrie explained to Farah how to behave with the boy to turn him, how to seduce him. Then it failed and now Carrie herself is taking the job. This is not about Carrie choosing a lover. Is that not whatyou see too?
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Oct 21, 2014
Ya, I recall that. But I read it a little more as "flirt your way in" sort of strategy...didn't give it much thought beyond that, especially since they didn't know his uncle was alive at the time. Though, that being the case, does Aayan get extra points in the sex pool for knocking down a CIA MILF? lol

But I absolutely agree that this isn't a Brodie'esque hookup with an asset she whom feels a kindred spirit. This is straight work, homie.

I still worry about what the plan is though. I would have thought the purpose of the seduction would be to bring him in. At this point, his family is dead, friends abandoned him, kicked out of school, broke and under constant threat. Dude is out of options, so I'm not sure how much more insentive is required.
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Oct 21, 2014
The way I saw it, the boy has now become even more important than before (uncle alive) and also, he is far too nervous,. You can see in his eyes (great actor) that he hesitates about staying. He is smart, too. And Carrie saw this was necessary to keep his mind busy with something else while they decide what to do. This is what I saw, at least?
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Oct 21, 2014
"Carrie saw this was necessary to keep his mind busy with something else while they decide what to do"

I didn't see it as quite so "cavalier". Far more calculated IMO...which I think is what has me nervous in the sense that Homeland could take this in A LOT of different directions. Unlike the show from the first season and a half, this version has questionable judgment with what it does with its characters.

Nothing to freak out over yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if this goes completely sideways.
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Oct 21, 2014
Side note:

While I get that the scene with Aayan was awkward, I'm not quite sure why the "visceral" reaction from so many. Why? Because he's younger? Because he's Indian?

Carrie making bad choice with who she bangs and why shouldn't come as a surprise to anybody who's watched this show. At least here, she got down for business reasons, so what's the problem?
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Oct 21, 2014
Seducing Aayan, possibly enabling Carrie to use him as a stalking horse shows a very cruel side to Carrie. Who knows what she'll become spying for America in the netherworld of the desert storm?
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Oct 21, 2014
Interesting, never noticed it before. Danes is a bad actor.

Patinkin is a good actor, Lewis (RIP) is a good actor.

But Danes is a baaaad actor. She has one face, and I couldn't care a toss what happens to her next. And it's not like I saw her think about drowning her baby or strangling the kitten, otherwise I would hate her even more.

I am barely watching now, and never noticed before that in addition to this show now blowing, Danes is very bad.

Here's hoping there are lots of Newsroom episodes.
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Oct 23, 2014
Please keep watching; wouldn't want to miss out on your great insights.
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Oct 21, 2014
Speaking about a lot of bad acting; with exception of Waterston and Fonda, the younger set have much to learn.
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Oct 21, 2014
Carrie and her muff of mass distraction strikes again!
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Oct 21, 2014
Carrie's move on Aayan was worse than the drowning baby
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Oct 21, 2014
How is that possible?
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Oct 21, 2014
i think it's all the same story. Aayad is Brody in Carrie's bipolar mind. A doble agent who she has sex with. Nice try Homeland.. but its the same thing. I still like it though, the story is intriguing..
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Oct 21, 2014
I seriously don't get why you see it as the same? Sex is the only thing in common here - so what are we saying, tha Carrie has a problem with sex? And that based on... the fact tha she has sex? This is right the opposite of Brody's situatuion, where she felt attraction that make her screw up her job. Here there is no attracion, she is doing her job to an extreme of coldness.
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Oct 23, 2014
I see it in the way that it seems like Carrie only "knows" how to stay close to an aset is having sex with it. The attraction she felt at first for Brody was a Mixture of obsession and crazyness
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Oct 23, 2014
No obsession and craziness here, though? We have seen Carrie having sex with what, 2 fellows in 4 seasons so far? I find 2 is too little to stablish that kind of pattern you are suggesting. The leading female spy from the Americans had sex with a lot more assets in just 1 season. Even Annie from Covert Affairs has had sex with more assets than Carrie has. I'd say 2 is a good number to observe opposite situations, though. It looks as if the show uses Carrie in a completely different way this season.
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Oct 21, 2014
I don't think there's any concern about her falling in love with this one though. Hopefully...
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Oct 21, 2014
Is the reviewer a prude? Sex as a weapon of manipulation by spies hell by women and men is as old as the bible. I didn't see nothing wrong about it infact I thought it was a natural progression. I didn't see Aayad's uncle still being alive coming. Then who the hell threatened him. Poor Aayad caught in the middle of 2 great forces.
I thought Saul was in his element damn fine acting .Quinn will take his lumps and move on love for Carrie not withstanding he knows how the game is played.
So far I think this is been my best season since season 1, I doubt they can top the ending of last season for me. Loving Homeland so far will be catching up on season 2 for sure.
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Oct 21, 2014
I was also not surprised by Carrie's approach, for me it is one more sign that she is ready to do whatever needed, as we have been seeing with the wedding bomb, for example, where she felt no regrets. I think the important part here is not the sex, but the fact that she is not telling the truth to Aayan about leaving Pakistan from the beginning. She doesn't have a heart anymore, eyes only in the mission. And we know that he is probably inocent and about to die. So why so much fuzz about the sex? No idea.
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Oct 20, 2014
Carrie is so weird, oh, my God.
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Oct 20, 2014
  • I really don't get that a review should start (pretty much every week) by naming all of Homeland's earlier mistakes and how we are to look for new flaws as evidence of Homeland's inability to be a good show 'again'. Feels like Alicia Florrick reminding Peter of his peccadillos after 6 seasons over at The Good Wife... Do we really need a recap of those each week? Possibly... if the goal is to just make sure we all understand and agree on what a terribly bad bad bad show Homeland is... SO VERY TIRED...
  • IMO it was a good episode and the plot not only progressed but it did so fast and with a few added complications esp. Ayaam's uncle being alive so the conspiracy grows and now it also taints the Ambassador's husband...
  • I also don't get the shock at Carrie seducing Ayaam... Sure it is morally reprehensible (watching this from my comfy sofa) but how else can she (or her team) attempt at making Ayaam into an asset? He is too smart to be turned by some BS propaganda and Carrie does not have much time before he realises the whole 'London's King's College' trip is not likely to happen... I do wonder if, were Carrie a male agent seducing a female asset, we'd worry about how unlikable/tainted a character Carrie may become because she does her job. Sure it is an unsavoury job just as Quinn's black ops was one but this is probably closer to the dirty games of intelligence and counterintelligence than Bond movies... Sad but true
  • I still think Ayaam could be playing the innocent lamb while working closely with his uncle... He seems destined to be a pawn in this game but perhaps he's also playing Carrie at his uncle's behest?

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Oct 20, 2014
Crap review. Carry is always been married to her job and she'll go in extremes until it floods over into her personal life (which she doesn't want to have). This is not different than any other time. If you don't like the concept, choose another show. If you believe that every episode should have the same rhythm, than stop watch series and get yourself a good movie. Jesus christ, what a complain about Carry. Analysing her is complex, so don't write with single mindedness.
The other funny thing is that people know what direction a series, like this or others, are going. It get's bad comments until they've seen it all (ex: Boardwalk Empire, Homeland S03 ...).
Homeland has been really good, as any show it isn't perfect. Get over it!
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Oct 20, 2014
And excuse my mistakes in English, as it is not my native language.
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Oct 20, 2014
Ugh, I decided I was d-o-n-e with this ridiculous pseudo-intellectual show after watching the two-parter premiere, and based on this recap and its attendant commentary I can see I'm only missing more aggravation. This show either should have ended with the death of Brody, or had enough nerve to pull a "True Detective" and cast all new leads in completely different situations. As it stands, I'm not hoping it fails, but I'm not planning on watching either.
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Oct 20, 2014
I think they're trying to fill the world out with new people, but yeah, there's a lot of baggage hanging over the show, particularly the main character.
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Oct 21, 2014
The most interesting new person, I felt, was Corey Stoll's character...and they killed him off in the first episode. I groaned, audibly.
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Oct 20, 2014
I found that the scene where Farah is following Aayan on foot was very good. Also several aspects of the episode related to spy work were very good. I didn't find surprising that Carrie went for seduction with Aayan. She is NOT getting too close to her target here, she is manipulating, nothing to do with Brody's story. It is regular spies stuff, isn't it? Just like the other lady with the ambassador's husband, touching and promising. Carrie is escaping her Brody's past by becoming the coldest version of her spy-self. That a professional hitman like Quinn would be the one in charge of re-humanizing her... that's somehow shocking :-)
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Oct 21, 2014
If you think no-one was going to give a woman in skinny jeans a second look in Islamabad- you must be crazy...
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Oct 21, 2014
Nah, don't need to be crazy, just need to not have been in Islamabad, for example. The women that i know from pakistan do wear jeans, you know. And market areas are regularly crazy enough places all over. But if you are from there or know the place, you can tell us about it, you know, instead of suggesting craziness?:-) are you, from there?
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Oct 20, 2014
I agree totally. How can Carrie turn/manipulate Ayaam in such short space of time? Sex is one weapon she can get some mileage on and she is acting as an operative in the field in very tough circumstances.
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Oct 21, 2014
Aayam is most likely a virgin; he's dreamt of sex with women for years and now, here it is, Carrie is kissing him, he kisses back. An erection takes hold, his youthful body succumbs with great joy.
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Oct 21, 2014
Look I am not 100% sure we can infer all those things.... Ayaam has not said a lot when asked... So like Carrie, we are making a lot of assumptions about his behaviour and his game (my suspicious mind still thinks Ayaam may be playing us all with his doe-eyed innocence) but yeah, stress, grief and the hormones of a young man make up the perfect combination for the game of seduction... In some ways, it seems even TOO easy...
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Oct 20, 2014
You're not wrong about Carrie's tactics here, but it's also hard to disassociate them from everything that came before, if that makes sense.

But you're right about the show's use of spy tactics this year. I like that part.
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Oct 20, 2014
Yikes! Just when I thought Carrie's behaviour couldn't possibly get any more appalling....hello, final scene!! Aayan, you poor child! My brain is cowering on the shower floor, rocking and sobbing whilst furiously attempting to scrub away every last trace of that cringeworthy near-rape scene.
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Oct 21, 2014
Nina, get a grip!
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Oct 22, 2014
Oh, I'm trying. I'm seeing Carrie's therapist today :P
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Oct 20, 2014
I don't think people screaming NO! to Carrie and Quinn's relationship are 100% correct. i don't think the feeling he has for Carrie are romantic, I think he is afraid of her. She is unprofessionally manipulative, borderline obsessively so, and he knows she is going to drag him down until he is dead or crazy, playing him like she plays everyone else. Even KNOWING this, he cannot walk away. I think he fears her. She, in a sense, impersonates this job.
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Oct 20, 2014
Is he both afraid of her, and in love with her?
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Oct 20, 2014
That silly thing last week with the cia being concerned with Quinn's "feelings" for Carrie only had one useful consequence that i can see: to put the true nature of his feelings (as romantic) out there for us (since we cannot know that from Quinn himself, he keeps being secretive enough). Because of that, now we know what his burden is, additionally to whatever spy stuff they have to deal with. And we will witness how he deals with cold Carrie, knowing what he knows, and nobody will have to mention the matter again. We will know. I wouldn't say that he is scared, more that he is conflicted? About the job, about the agency, and about the woman he wants to protect.
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Oct 20, 2014
season 4 thus far has reminded me how great and how much range homeland has they could have killed broody in season 2 it still doesnt have the theatrical sense from season 1
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Oct 20, 2014
do case officers really groom assets like this?
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Oct 20, 2014
I do imagine so. It's simply the most powerful instrument available.
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Oct 21, 2014
Ever heard of Mata Hari?
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Oct 20, 2014
It is indeed - i'm puzzled at everybody being surprised by this? Everybody uses sex in every other tv show for dubious reasons, and now we are surprised that spies do??
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Oct 20, 2014
why were quin and carrie surprised Pakistanis state security kill their station chief to cover up that the jihadi was alive Pakistan reportedly aided osama
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Oct 20, 2014
Who will think of the children?Pity Carrie's poor baby, saddled with an emotionally unavailable parent and Brody's hair colour...
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Oct 21, 2014
Overwhelming for a newborn baby is not always a mother's first reaction. After much pain poorly described in books and classes, a living creature appears hanging from the hand of the doctor as she slaps the infant to reinforce its breathing. Some women know, despite waiting nine months to deliver, they are not suited for motherhood. It took me some time to acknowledge this fact, but Danes most skillfully expressed her character's unwillingness to become the baby's parent. Face it, regardless of her profession, Carrie would not a good mother make.
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Oct 21, 2014
Very true. And hopefuly they can get that ginger dye out of the kid's hair. Poor wee soul.
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Oct 20, 2014
I think one of the reasons I love Homeland is because of how uncomfortable it makes you feel. The last few minutes of this episode especially. We all know Carrie is just working Ayan though given how she was introduced to us all in episode one she'll probably enjoy it. Props yet again to Quinn. I don't think the way he's been acting is lovesick though - yes he's in love with her but I think he's able to put that aside and is generally concerned about her. He's got to the point where he knows there aren't any good guys but Carrie isn't there yet. They should get together at least once though - he's good for her.
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Oct 20, 2014
So true! VERY uncomfortable viewing... I wonder if Quinn & the rest of the team were watching that too cause yikes....
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Oct 20, 2014
Have you watched The Americans?
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Oct 21, 2014
I am with you on that. I watched the first episode and found it too disturbing to continue so I can't even imagine how bad it might have gotten after
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Oct 21, 2014
I've seen a couple of episodes of The Americans and keep meaning to get back to watching that as I've heard it's really good! Must add to the list!
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Oct 21, 2014
You must if you can, yes! But mind, they all use sex as a tool all the time.
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Oct 20, 2014
I was wound up and angry right from the moment Carrie answered the safe house door half naked. At first I thought maybe the show is making some deal about Carrie's ignorance of how offensive and inappropriate that would be in Islamabad, then when the whole bed making thing went down I realised Carrie was gonna try and seduce Aayan.

So I hoped he would give her the big knockback. Why would Aayan be interested in Carrie - she is so much older it is creepy.
Aayan was sober and is allegedly a well brought up young man unlikely to be up for bouncing bones at the drop of a hat.
Aayan behaving according to character didn't suit the plot which suggests the writers have bought into the fallacious meme that all young muslim men are sexually repressed.
That doesn't fit in with earlier scenes where Aayan showed no evidence of this when with Kiran (the fellow student whose father reported him) he was a model of decorum when alone in her house with her.
I reckon he would have given Carrie the big knock back in the real world.

At least when Carrie was unperturbed about butchering a house full of people celebrating a family wedding, the show made the point her behaviour was wrong, if her attack on Aaryan, a vulnerable and frightened young man on who Carrie mis-used her power and abused, isn't portrayed as being similarly beyond the pale, I'm not going to bother watching this show any more.
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Oct 21, 2014
Fact young muslim men are sexually repressed. Its not deregatory in any way. If you knew any in actual third world countries you'll know they are way behind on your average American teenager.
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Oct 21, 2014
This is nonsense you are talking now, really.
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Oct 20, 2014
The way I read this is that Carrie answered the door half dressed very much on purpose to show a bit of flesh but not too much (she wasn't in a tiny nightie either cause that would have had Ayaan running for the hills).
The show is making some assumptions about exposure to sex/sexual situations in certain more conservative environments but I'd say most teenage boys when finding themselves in turmoil (as Ayaam is) could be an easy victim to an experienced female seductress.... When Ayaam arrives at the house he is definitely distressed after his mysterious bag just destroyed, that older guy accusing him of stealing drugs, being expelled from Uni... He is emotionally wrought and clearly Carrie is taking advantage of it. Morally it is questionable, you are right, but in Carrie's mind and as an operative, she is doing it for the greater good of justice, saving lives etc. This is part of being a spy except in most spy shows this is conveniently ignored. I think the show is doing a great job at showing Ayaam's vulnerability and without having to spell it, I think most viewers question the lengths to which Carrie will go to make her mission a success.
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Oct 21, 2014
Yep the issue is whether others in the drama see Carrie's behaviour as OK or not. Spies have been running honey traps against targets for centuries but Aayan is probably not a legitimate target. He is grieving and confused. Even if his uncle is alive (as he seems to be) I doubt that his immediate family made it through the drone attack.

Representing other cultures accurately is always a big ask, but it isn't unreasonable to expect a certain level of humanism from TV drama -that is to say you don't have to be an expert on any culture to see something wrong with adopting an 'ends justifies the means' take on exploiting victims of war no matter what side you support. That is the point Aayan made when he was bailed up by the TV reporter.

Maybe the show will go that way I hope so because it would be sad if one of the few shows that actually looks behind the casualty figures of drone warfare, to consider at the people involved, then dismissed something as egregious as this attack on Aayam as "alls fair in love and war".
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Oct 21, 2014
Well it is obviously a question of opinion but in my opinion the show did NOT endorse Carrie's seduction of Aayan as a straight win for the team. The way the whole thing was shot and made it into such uncomfortable viewing is a far cry from the glamourised spy missions on your average spy film/show. You could easily read disapproval in Fara's face when she delivered Aayan to the safe house and I expect we'll have a Quinn explosion next week...
It would be naive to believe that spies do not go around seducing targets like Aayan if that is what the mission requires. That this is part of the job is precisely what Quinn is taking issue with now.
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Oct 20, 2014
Yup, I'm Indian and it was like "he's a nice Desi boy!" there is no way he would feel comfortable around her like that. I was almost expecting him to call her "auntieji" or something.

This a long with all the terrible Urdu/Hindi has put me way off Homeland this year. It just takes you right out of it when you see these actors that don't look Pakistani and don't speak the language naturally.
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Oct 21, 2014
In Cape Town people speak English mostly, so no the accents and language is off. It is nice to see them filming in Africa though and especially my old university and my church where I had youth group on a Friday for Sandy's funeral.
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Oct 20, 2014
That's just something we non-US citizens have to accept. Our cultures, languages and looks will never be accurately represented by an American TV show.
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Oct 20, 2014
What Da Fak was that ending nasty as fak i would take brody over this crap any day of the week
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Oct 20, 2014
My level of discomfort in the last 5 minutes was over 9000.

Props to Suraj Sharma for getting to make out with Claire Danes though.
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Oct 20, 2014
Your scouter must be broken..
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Oct 21, 2014
I threw it away immediately. Damn Google Glass.
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Oct 20, 2014
that ending was so unbelievably cringe worthy.
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Oct 20, 2014
SO CRINGE-WORTHY. Which is both good and bad. I just had a gross reaction to it.
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Oct 20, 2014
That ending had me like
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Oct 20, 2014
lmao that was my face rite there so perfect
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Oct 20, 2014
When Carrie looked that the mirror before the couch scene, i knew shits going down yo !
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Oct 20, 2014
Yep props to Claire Danes for giving herself a pep talk pre-seduction without even uttering a word
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