Homeland "Q&A" Review: Breaking Up Is Hard to Do

Homeland S02E05: "Q&A;"

Every man has his tipping point. For some, it's the safety of their families. For others, it's sharply shaved bamboo poked jammed under their fingernails after which their hands are dipped into Cholula hot sauce and habanero peppers are squeezed into their eyeballs all while watching the lost episodes of ABC's Work It. For me, it's sharks and broccoli. I'm not a good swimmer, I hate being bitten by large fish, and broccoli is GROSS END OF STORY.

For Congressman and part-time Al Qaeda sympathizer Nicholas Brody, it's a captivity session of pain, followed by the relief of that pain, some love and kindness, and some reprogramming by way of convincing, soothing words. "Q&A;," bound to make the list of essential Homeland episodes by the time this is all said and done, burrowed deep into what makes Homeland's characters tick and tock and cry and murder people in the woods, and it addressed the concerns of "Where do we go now?" from last week's bold episode that spun around our idea of what this show was about. And because this second round of Homeland prefers that its episodes include at least one moment of pure insanity, it had that too.

"Q&A;" was like a Freaky Friday version of last season's excellent "The Weekend." If you'll recall, "The Weekend" was full of fun sexytimes in a rustic cabin and romantic walks in the beautiful woodlands outside of Washington D.C. followed by accusations of plotting domestic terrorism, some guns pointed at vital organs, and Brody ditching Carrie in the middle of nowhere (how did she get back anyway?). It was a budding romance with a new flame that became heartbreak by the end. "Q&A;" was the bookend of "The Weekend," and equated to getting cornered at a party by a psycho ex-girlfriend who used Jedi mind tricks to somehow get back together.

And "Q&A;" was largely defined by one outstanding scene. THAT SCENE was Homeland at its best, and there was nary a suicide bomber, a bar dust-up with neo-Nazis, or a car-wash shower in sight. It was just Carrie Matheson/Claire Danes and Nicholas Brody/Damian Lewis sitting at a table in a drab room while a few cameras rolled. AND IT WAS AMAZING. Two Emmy winners acting their faces off, no big deal. I'm pretty close to calling this the best scene of the series, if not one of the best of recent television. Though it was just the main characters dialoguing it was unbelievably complex and layered as every avenue of the series was explored and prodded while a man's will and spirit were smothered under Carrie's foot heart. I loved this scene to death.

And what I loved most about this scene is that it was an extremely condensed version of what Brody went through before with Abu Nazir, only this time it was for "good" and America and so that you can have another Fourth of July BBQ next year. Brody was detained against his will, restrained against his will, pained against his will (Peter, way to be EXTREME to the MAXXX with the hand stabbing, buddy), and re-trained against his will. It was an attempt to undo everything Abu Nazir did to Brody over Brody's eight years as a P.O.W. by using the same brainwashing-hyphen-torture technique that Nazir used to turn Brody in the first place.

That obviously leads to questions about the morality of torture and illegal detention and whether "we" are just as bad as "them" even though the disparity between the severities of the two situations was vast, and I'll leave that for you all to discuss, but what that scene really did was tell me a lot about Brody. He's not quite the headstrong renegade we assumed him to be. He's fallible and malleable to whoever holds him last, a swing-voter-focused political ad's wet dream.

Carrie made him switch sides by softening him with love and care and catching him off guard with empathy and common sense as though she was saving him from a cult's indoctrination. But unlike Nazir, Carrie's persuasion was legit. It's a blast to see Carrie's go full-on bipolar between her heart and her job, and at times during her therapy session with Brody those goals intersected, and that's totally fine by Carrie! Going "undercover" and meeting Brody at his hotel? It's another chance to drink whiskey with him! Cuffing him and bringing him into the CIA for interrogation? An opportunity for some alone time with her crush! Changing his allegiance and bringing him into the CIA fold? Now she can call him anytime and meet for happy hours or coyly flirt at the copy machine! Yes, Carrie is the psycho ex with legitimate reasons–saving the world, making the future better for our children–to be clingy.

Of course that's vastly underserving what's really going on here, which is a fantastic intertwining of two people who just can't escape each other. And Homeland has found a way to keep them together that works, but for how long? Last week I wondered aloud about the possible scenarios Homeland would be able to wiggle out of capturing Brody so early, each being damaging to the viability of the series. One of those circumstances was the CIA turning Brody to their side, and I said, "But that kills the chase between Brody and Carrie, and there isn't a single person rooting for that." And that one person especially shouldn't be Lewis, because Brody is coming very close to being expendable. The heart of the show is Carrie and Brody and their relationship as lovers (or whatever they are) AND adversaries. Working side by side, the romantic flames may flourish but the juicy conflict is all but extinguished (unless you're here for yet another television extra-marital affair). And Brody can't go back to working for Nazir again while under the impression that he's CIA without really pissing us off, so we should all pray that he doesn't change his mind again. We can take a flip and a flop, but not a flip and a flop and ANOTHER flip.

So the question is, can Homeland be setting up the end of Brody's story? Is this show crazy enough to write off one its leads? An Emmy winner? Conventional wisdom says, "Hellllllllll nah!" But as we've come to find out, Homeland is anything but conventional.

The rest of the episode? What, there was more to the episode than Carrie talking to Brody for what seemed like an amazing hour? Yes, but it all pales in comparison. As for the moment of pure insanity I mentioned above, it was Finn at the wheel this time. This show has had some serious car troubles this season, hasn't it? I have no explanation for Finn running over that pedestrian (for more than a few seconds I thought it was Roya which would have been a new level of convenience, but I couldn't verify the bloody whimpering mess) while trying to speed away from his secret service detail, other than DRAMA! I could easily see Finn's hit-and-run playing out over a few episodes with the kids worried about whether the victim died or not, learning she died in the following episode, and then Dana (and maybe Brody?) having some real Grade-A dirt on Finn to use as leverage that could then be transferred up to Vice President Dad.

What a truly great episode of Homeland featuring a scene and performances that are beyond praise. Even if the show goes off the rails and Dana ends up chased into a tree by a mountain lion, we'll always have the incredible chat between Carrie and Brody and can point to that and say, "That... that scene was really, really, really good." Standing ovation, scream "woo woo," and throw your panties on stage. Absolutely amazing. We probably won't see any scene better than the best of "Q&A;" for this year and maybe more.


NOTES

– Okay, the Issa stuff is confusing me. Carrie forgot about those details but now she didn't? Or the team knew? Or they put the puzzle together as a team?

– I know I said, "There was a rest of the episode?" above, but THE SCENE would not be nearly as effective without the tense setup with Brody and Peter Quinn. Outstanding work by Rupert Friend.

– However, Quinn impaling Brody's hand to the table via knife was crazy! If that's what really happens in these CIA shakedowns, then I better take off my "9/11 was an inside job" bumper sticker because I want no part of that. "Every good cop needs a bad cop," he shrugged.

– The editing and directing during the great scene as also top-notch and deserves special mention. The pregnant pauses ready to burst, the one-shots zooming into Carrie and Brody as the talk progressed, the long holds on reactions, I really don't think it could have been done any better.

– I liked that "OH REALLY?" look that Brody gave Carrie when she said she would protect his family. The same family she just said she wanted him to leave for her. Hell, Carrie would probably hand deliver the known whereabouts of Jessica if it meant that obstacle could be knocked out of the way.

– Brody gets to go home to hugs n' things, Carrie gets to go home to a couch with no one to share it with. It's that longing for someone else, and the belief that she found that person in Brody, that's going to make her screw something up.

– Terrible job in Washington, D.C.? Keeping track of Senators and such. Sorry, Gary!

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Why does Brody's wife call him "Brody", not "Nicholas"? I find it distasteful...
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Homeland Season 2 Episode 5 I think is one for the tv history books! I was totally drawn in. Both characters have an intense history with each other and we're still left wondering who's been playing who! Just like in real life.
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Trivia question: Jess calling Brody by his surname is something common in the US? I keep seeing spouses in tv shows calling each other with their last name and seems kind of weird to us Europeans
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I'm assuming it has something to do with the military. I'm not entirely sure, but I think it's because he's used to being called by his last name. Again, I'm just guessing.
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I don't find Carrie particularly convincing as a capable CIA agent. She should be more hardened than this, given that we were told she was experienced and highly rated as of the start of series 1. How could she possibly have survived before?

Also, some scenes drag for me. This show doesn't follow the 'late in, early out' principles of most TV shows.

Other than that it's a good show and a great story.
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you say that they forgot about Isa, what about the confessional suicide video, maybe there was details in there because we were never shown the whole video.
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I think so, too. As the video is supposed to explain his actions, it definitely would be vital to include this detail.
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I think the use of scenes like this to draw psychological parallels between Carrie and Nazir is brilliant.

For the first time, we see Brody as someone with a deep and longstanding need for affection, not just someone who was turned by torture. Jessica's aloofness and self-focus were there from the minute he got home (it moved from understated to more apparent as Season 1 progressed). To exploit that part of him makes him open to manipulation. I think the parallel between what Nazir did to him and how Carrie handled him was artistically superb. A mini-version of his 8 years in captivity. Interrogate, inflict pain, send in "the savior" to show kindness.

I have a sneaking suspicion that Nazir somehow baited the U.S. into the madrassa attack that killed Issa, the same way he baited them into the attack that uncovered Brody. He seemed more than willing to sacrifice his son (who feared him, we are left to assume, for his cruelty) to cement Brody's hatred and complete the "turn". It's masterful emotional manipulation, and if I'm right, I can't wait to see how it unfolds when Brody finds out. It reminds me of when Virgil found out Carrie was on antipsychotics - she told him he was already up to his neck in it, and he had no way out. I think Nazir could say the same to Brody.

Also similar to Nazir, Carrie can quickly switch between passionate love for Brody (when it suits her purpose) and open derision and disgust (a la the hotel room scene). Brody fears Nazir. He fears the CIA's ability to crumble this new life of privilege. He is operating in survival mode, which I think they displayed well by his need to lie on the hard floor for comfort the way he did in captivity. He doesn't know who to believe, but he knows he wants love and affection and an end to pain, and he will bend to the will of whoever can give him more of it.
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It was so rewarding to watch Carrie peeling off the jihad off of Brody layer by layer.

I think there will be more juicy conflicts, just different. The ending of Q&A showed one dimension of them which was the fact they belong together but they can't, even after Brody was flipped. Carrie being all by herself is not necessary worse than Brody having to lie to the wife he is not in love with day in and day out.
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Definitely the best in television for a freaking long time!!



I'm just not yet sold on the Brody-working-for-the-CIA story. I don't know yet whether the show will stay as good as it was, but I'm hoping for the best.
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Is there still a mole in the CIA? Did I imagine that? If so it would make the Brody cooperation interesting.



By the way this episode was amazing and I agree with everything Tim said. Lazy of me but nevertheless true.
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Yes, I keep wondering when they're going to address the mole issue as well. Part of me thinks it's Saul, and the only stable part of Carrie's world (outside of her sister) is about to get pulled out from under her when it is revealed. There is still much double crossing to be had in this series, and Brody may indeed have a friendlier ear than Carrie's within the CIA.
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may be showrunners should never put up with CIA or Government or politics stuff coz they know nothing about it or a slight bit (from wikipedia) the degree of implausibility is so high already in Homeland that it is threating to turn once serious ambitious dramatic show into shows like Sons of anarchy or else soapy. i know that many writers work during season and that impacts the outcome everytime. i don't understand it - they never talk to each other or what? sadly but homeland couldn't hold all its seriousness level during 1 season. it lost it all the way in the end of season. and now it rises implausibility degree higher and higher testing viewers' patience. why we need that stabbing hand stuff? just crazy would be fine. and stabbing hand is not a joke he could hit Brody's vein and interrogation would end. it would happen in reality and this guy's CIA career could be over. and it would be fun to watch that but not that ridiculous "bad good cop" dialogue with Saul.

and dissapereance of congressman for a whole day is noted by nobody? wtf? in real world CIA could not risk it like that. they can't do that. period. and now nobody will notice Brody's damaged hand? oh I was riding a bike and crush into moose and his horn speared my hand - that could be an explanation better than "fender-bender". for now in just few episodes homeland made so many implausible gaffes that it's getting harder for me to continue to watch it. if homeland didn't present itself like plausible (in show's reality terms of course) serious drama I wouldn't have this complaints.
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I think you are hanging up on details that are completely irrelevant to the quality of this show. It is gripping television matched by hardly any other series, that is what's important. It's the complete opposite of the usual technocratic,morally black and white action-bs you usually get in this genre.
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Brody knows Carrie lost her job after she went cuckoo because no one believed her about Brody, yet he believes Carrie when she promises to protect Brody's family? Hopefully they're setting us up for yet another flip-flop, or that was some slop-writing.
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But everything's different now. He knows they have the tape. He knew her accusations weren't crazy to begin with. Now he knows everybody else knows that too. She is interrogating him, so he knows at least some part of the CIA is on her side and allowing her access. She convinced him that Nazir was a monster, and he has feared Nazir ever since the phone call in the alley when he shot Tom Walker. Given this new reality, he may have some doubts that the CIA can protect his family, but it's the more attractive of his two options.
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I can totally see how it could get better - Nazir finds out Brodie has turned, and instead of targeting just Brodie's family he takes Carrie as well, leaving Brodie to figure out if he even cares enough for her (of course he does) to do something about it. Carrie of course goes all crazy on Nazir's ass and generally makes him wish he'd stayed clear. Meanwhile there'll be some tie in (blackmail?) with Dana and the Veep's kid having taken out that woman. Brodie is thus going to have two, possibly three puppeteers pulling his strings....
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I remember reading that Brody was only supposed to be in the first season.
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I figured he'd have to flip for the CIA once he got caught so quickly, but I didn't expect Carrie to actually break him. I don't actually root for Brody and Carrie, because she's effing insane, and she doesn't follow anyone's orders. I guess it's better that her ignoring all her superiors usually works for her, but I don't root for either of his relationships. People talk about Last Resort being unrealistic (and it is), but there is no way they'd let Carrie and Brody work together to such an intimate degree, not after he pretty much cracked her brain so recently, and especially not after her huge confession in the interrogation room. Sure, it worked on Brody, but he's turned now. While it's necessary for the shippers watching this show, it just makes no sense to allow all the one-on-one time they're about to get.

Ehh, maybe I just miss Alias.
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I think either way the best choice for him was to accept the deal with the CIA..

There's 2 options here.

1) He is smart enough to realize what Carrie's tactics was (to soft him up) and played along with it to see if he could get out of it. Let's remember the guy suffered 8 years of real torture, I don't think a hand stabbing would do much to him.

or 2) he was looking for a way out of the mess he created for a while now (he didnt blew himself up, he didnt want to steal CIA information because "he is a congressman now", he wanted to go to that event with his wife, he didnt want to go get the tailor... and now CIA offered him a way out of it. He may just grab it.



Either way he had to play nice...

I guess the real dilemma for him will be his family X his loyalty to Nazir.. If he wants out he got it, if he wants to be a terrorist he can't be one behind bars..

And Carrie's dilemma will be her love for him X her duty as a CIA agent, but since she is bipolar i guess she will do both lol.



Great turn for the show, i completely trust the writers, but i think they will keep us guessing where Brody stands now for a while, and that will be SO FUN to watch.
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I don't know what to think now...

Is Brody really that easily turned onto the CIA's side, or did he just want to tell them what they wanted to know?

Is he really going to help them or just pretend to and feed the badies all the CIA's info???
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Yes, the scene was great, but oh Tim, how quickly you abandon one emmy winner for another. Save for the moment every scene Cranston is in is amazing, but the end of season 2 BB? (or whatever, go ahead, pick one.) Homeland is amazing, but the accusation you throw around has to go through the obligatory BB filter.
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I just don't get what was Quinn thinking. Saul made it clear that the reason Quinn turned into Jack Bauer wasn't his temper, but rather a calculated move to soften up Brody for Carrie. But then he stabbed the guy's hand. Wouldn't Nazir's people notice that? Further, wouldn't the fact that Brody was under duress would pretty much invalidate his confession if the case goes to a grand jury? The guy's hand was pierced by crazy man with a knife. What'd you expect the guy to do after that?



Anyway, loved the episode. But that whole Dana/Finn thing was completely distracting. It should have been entirely dedicated to Brody, Carrie and the other CIA guys with few minutes to Jessica.



Loved that 15 minute conversation between Brody and Carrie. But I thought the dialogue wasn't that great. What was great was the acting, especially Damien Lewis. He's a good actor. Just can't believe that he beat Bryan Cranston in the Emmys though. I can imagine another actor playing Brody. Just can't imagine anyone other than Cranston being Walter White.



Throughout the series I've found Carrie's mental instability somewhat distracting. I would've liked her more if her character was more like Scully in The X-Files. But then no one can do what Gillian Anderson did so maybe this is a safer path.









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I have confidence that the new direction this show will take it will be just as engaging as the rest of the twists have been because, well, the rest of the twists have been super engaging!

I thought when Carrie promised to protect the Brodies (it's so weird to think that that entire family has Brody in their name), it hearkened back to when she promised that asset last season that she had CIA protection, only for her to end up dead later in the episode. Foreshadowing maybe?
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Let's see if I could summarize:

1. Quinn morphs into Jack Bauer;

2. Carrie breaks Brody's spirit by rambling on about their love; &

3. Dana gets a ride from Lindsay Lohan's brother.

Next episode, Arthur Fonzarelli goes water skiing.
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"rambling on about their love" , talk about oversimplifying things.



Looking at your profile I get a troll-ish vibe.



Joined: October 29th



Reviews: 1 negative Homeland review



Just sayin.
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Wake me up when something interesting and believable happens. The "Amazing" Carrie/Nicholas confrontation was so dull, it would have been rejected by C-Span. For our fearless reviewer, Tim, to write, "Standing ovation, scream 'woo woo,' and throw your panties on stage," raises numerous questions. One of them being, will Tim continue writing reviews once he graduates from high school?
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I didnt have to pay close attention to anything to find the dialogue scene outstanding - Actually, I always watch tv shows while doing something else because for the most part, they dont need all my attention to gather the essentials. In this episode, I was staring at the tv for the whole episode - they managed to make it so interesting for us to watch and try to witness the moment in which he got actually turn (or the moment when Carrie was fooled once more). They wrote a long scene with just two people talking that didnt need special effects or car crashes or major discoveries to be as attractive to my eyes (and many other people, as it seems) as no other scene has been in a very, very long time. Of course, if I was the kind of person that needs street action to feel that something happened in an episode, I would have been more interested in the two teenagers car accident (which I found a bit annoying and distracting, hope it means something more later on in the show). I am no die-hard viewer. I think this was an amazing performance that gathered a lot of what we have already seen in the series. I am sorry for whoever was disappointed by it, because I really know the feeling of being disappointed by a tv show (most shows are so average quality these days). Congratulations to me for having had such a fantastic experience with this episode. In moments like that, it pays off to watch so many. Cheers.
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Agree with computerflix3er. I believe that if someone watches TV a lot and tries to analyze it, understand it and figure out how it's built, then he can see a lot more in truly great shows. Sometimes those people can be snobbish and just like something because they think intelligent people should. However, someone who understands TV (for lack of a better term), in this case Tim, always arguments his opinions and statements. And Tim did just that.
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I guess you are a casual tv viewer instead of a die-hard viewer. I can see that a casual viewer would be bored as you were probably checking facebook or playing solitare while watching the show where as a die-hard viewer would have been on the edge of the seat looking for a break in either Brody or Carrie's eyes to see if any real truth were going to be told between them. I had to comment, Crazy is back in town while watching this.
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Sounds like he hit a nerve. Bad high school stage-interrogation-panty memories?
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This episode was amazing! I'm afraid that it will become kinda boring, seeing Brody acting as a double agent. But I trust the Homeland's writers.

About the morality of the whole Brody arrest thing: I'm don't think that is different what the CIA made to Brody from what Abu Nazir did. Is it legal? From what I heard, yes. But, from a moral point a view, a country that can arrest a person, for any lengt of time, only for a guess that he/she is a terrorist; that sends bomb, killing innocents, children, women; and holds most of the weapons of mass destruction in the world, is no different than the very own "terrorist" that they are trying to fight.
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I really liked the scene where Carrie got home, drank some wine and sat down. The intensity of it really made me follow her every move, and I felt suspense as if something was going to happen. Great acting.
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Don't get me wrong, I loved the episode, and it might be just me, but how did the CIA end up breaking Brody in such a short amount of time with a little sleep deprivation (and the knife the hand) after he must have been through hell and back over years of torture. Surely he could withstand what they threw at him for longer than he did.
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Everybody's assuming that because he was a POW for 8 years, he's "pro at torture". Maybe it's just the opposite and the mere possibility of real torture brings back those memories and scares the bejesus out of him. And after the hand stabbing which could be seen coming (shows how Quinn was brilliantly playing his part of slowly losing his patience), he was really damaged.
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Don't worry much about the fact he broke. It doesn't mean much. It's easily predictable that Brody isn't really broken. Brody won't be a complete CIA pawn any time soon. He's obviously going to still help Abu Nazir, while also helping the CIA. Abu Nazir has the disadvantage of being far less attractive than Carrie. So Brody will be emotionally attached to Carrie and this will be a major factor in Brody's decision making algorithm. So the guy reluctantly becomes a CIA pawn towards the end of the series, or he dies, or both. But that doesn't happen anytime soon.



So here's the deal. Obviously Brody is going to help both CIA and Abu. If he becomes a CIA pawns towards the end of the show, he will survive. He can die a tragic death, but this way he at least has a chance. If he helps Abu, this is American TV, so the he will most definitely die a tragic death.
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Yes, I assume it's a mix of both Devon39219 and edge1710's arguments. Brody has shown signs this season that he isn't completely on Nazir's side and was reluctant to do anything that basically requires him to leave his office. Hell, I guess it started last season when he didn't go through with the explosion (on his second try). Carrie understood that and kept poking him with it, pointing out that he cared for his own kids more than Issa (talking to Dana on the phone made him change his mind). Plus, while imprisonment can make you stronger and more susceptible to it, it can also make you realize imprisonment SUCKS.
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I think he was already questioning his allegiance to Nazir, in the last couple of episodes he had to do things against his will. This was convincing to me, like Carrie said about the whole lying thing, I think he was just relieved. Other than that I completely agree, he could def withstand that a lot longer.
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I think the simple fear of ending in another hole for 8 years might have something to do with that. Also if you have a good argument you can flip someone.
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I would have preferred it if this entire episode was just the CIA, Carrie, and Brody. Not that I really minded the other stuff, I just like the idea of a Homeland bottle episode.

And for the record, I'm pro Brody-killing.
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"...and whether "we" are just as bad as "them"... " There's not even a question about it, YOU are just as bad as THEM. The U.S are no different from the "terrorists" that they fight, the only different thing is how the media portrays it. Killing is always killing. Israel and the U.S are killing civilians and innocent people every day in their own countries, how often do these "terrorists" actaully come to your country and attack you?



The U.S has kidnapped and tortured people, just because they had the wrong name and were mistaken for being "terrorists", and the U.S tortures people who has been forced in to the military and then been captured by the american army. Just look at what the soldiers were doing to the prisoners in Iraq, peeing on them, video taping them naked, basically torturing and shaming them.



There is no difference, between you and them. The U.S are just as much "terrorists" as the ones you claim to have a war against.
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Absolutely agree. Plus:Kidnapping and torturing is one thing,uncontrolled killing of hundreds of people every year with a joystick (drones are Obamas favorite toy) is another. It's a shame the Americans standing idly by the continuing rape of their constitution. But they're not alone with that problem.
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I have to add myself to the list of people impressed by this episode and The Scene. What an amazing performance. What an amazing everything. What a high moment in TV history. AMAZING.
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I love the fact that a plot turn like this, on other shows, is usually saved for season finales, but Homeland is awesome enough to have it happen 5 episodes in to one. After Brody was captured by the CIA last week, this is naturally the direction the show had to go. Anything else would be a bit too crazy, so he had to be turned and used as a CIA informant of sorts. While most shows would rely on that plot "twist", Homeland knew it was fairly obvious to most viewers after last week's episode and so instead of relying on that in itself, they created an episode that's more noteworthy for Lewis and Danes talking to each other than the plot turn itself. That interrogation was some of the best TV I've ever seen. The writing, the acting, the directing -- all fantastic. Homeland, I love you.
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why they rushing things? why oh why? again (first it was Alphas) the show I like did a doubtful stunt with rushing through things like it was chased by "cancelled" demons. Why oh why? damn it homeland. it is true that this episode's decision will divide fans all over the map. and I'm kinda on the fence right now but leaning slowly to dissapointment area. and tense scenes of emmy winning actors don't do it for me. yes it was tense great acting all over the faces (especially Danes' grimacing) but writers (i fear) just did a huge mistake. why Brody couldn't lie his way out of this holding? he could do it many times. he could go back to senate and we would enjoy a nice cat and mouse game and spy cams to the end of the season at least. why they need to rush things my god! what's the rush? show already renewed so what the fuck brody will be doing next season? what? hunting in the woods?
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The team and everybody knew about Issa from the tape, you genious. Her face looked odd when she heard that name, because she was supposed to remember that, but she didn't.
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As to the first note, in his suicide video he talked about Issa. Also, when Carrie was getting electric shock therapy they mentioned that the memory loss was only temporary.
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I am so impressed with this episode that I can't even think of any that has ever topped it, ever! The thing that I love about this show is that I trust completely the writing, I have no doubt they have an endgame to all of this and whatever it is it's going to be serving the storyline. If they didn't know what to do with Brody they would've milked this double agent thing at least until the finale. This could've easily been a FINALE episode! And one of the good ones!!! Outstanding performances! Outstanding Show!!
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I am in awe of the writers and actors of this show. But lets not forget the directors, the stage crew, the lighting crew, the editing crew, the vocal coaches. I have to agree with everything you wrote. I don't think there WAS a scene on television that captured the audience 150% in decades. In fact, only a few episodes of MASH, with Alan Alda was then only thought that came close to the level of last nights' episode of Homeland. I said it before, but it is a gift and pleasure to watch them work.

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wow Brody's a triple agent now.
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Am I the only one who finds it weird that Jessica calls her husband by his 2nd name?
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I'm surprised this is the first time some of you are noticing this. She did this in season one, as well. His surname is basically his nickname.

Considering they met in high school, maybe Brody was his nickname even back then and she also called him that as they were friends and/or dating. Just because they got married doesn't mean they have to abandon that kind of stuff.
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I know. It's still weird though.
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If you scroll down just a *little* bit, you will find at least two more. And no, it's not that weird. I'm guessing that everyone called him "Brody"when they met, and she got used to it years before she married him.
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Hey everyone. I don't want to get too political on TV.com, however, I must comment on your statement, Tim, that this episode "leads to questions about the morality of torture and illegal detention." There was nothing illegal about Broady's detention in this episode (except the stabbing, of course). In the National Defense Authorization Act of this year, drafted by John McCain (and others) and signed by President Obama, within Section 1021 it allows the US Government to detain any person indefinitely, or until the war on terror is over, without a trial or a lawyer, if they are suspected or assumed to be affiliated with terrorist forces. Under this section of NDAA 2012, it allows the transfer of the detained person to any part of the world. Since Brody was suspected to be working for terrorists, he could have, under law, been transferred to any location on the planet and imprisoned for life, with no trial or lawyer. Brody, being a senator, does complicate this issue, but I assume the same protocol would be applicable.
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The ONE principle which America was founded on, and which it had always been so proud of, and which was THE selling point when making friends abroad, was that it's a nation based on the Rule of Law. After 9/11, they basically tore all that up and threw it in the trash. The Patriot Act, and all the other "laws" they made, are plainly unconstitutional.
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well, the National Defense Authorization is clearly illegaly, because, you know, there are such things as International Conventions and Treaties that forbid that kind of treatment and none president can change that.
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Now *that* raises some moral issues.
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I think they even mentioned that it was legal in the episode.
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Definitely agree that Brody flipping back to the side of the terrorists would be too much... I've always been nervous about this show forcing one twist too many, but I guess we'll have to trust them.

Is there *any* way that Brody would have realistically been able to avoid an ER trip after the stabbing? It really bugged me - he just wrapped it up and went about his life, but I can't imagine there wasn't some serious damage to tendons and such.

I also thought the woman Finn hit was Roja... kind of a terrible casting choice in my mind.
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I think it was her. The preview for the next week's episode also hinted that it was her who was hit. It's a pretty huge coincidence, but I feel pretty confident it wasn't just a random woman. It's going to look like Brody ratted her out and then an attempt was made on her life. He will have to explain to Nazir why she was hit by a car the same day he was interrogated by the CIA.
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BEST SCENE EVER!
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Incredible! THAT SCENE was so intense, definitely the best Homeland moment to date.

The developments of this season are so huge that you start wishing it would play out over more episodes. I'm very confident though that the writers will keep the plot tempo along with the main actors and everything that makes this show so unique. I think it's a very positive sign that we have NO clue where this show is heading.
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And I thought that too that Jessica called her husband not Nick but Brody. WTF? Seems that everybody calls him by his last name. It's weird.
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Exactly! I was sitting there thinking 'That's YOUR name too! And your kids!'
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Am I the only one who don't want Brody-Carrie thing? It's just ridiculous. I never liked it and never will. It will ruin the show. I never bought Brody's feeling towards Carrie. I think he is actually never felt for her anyway. I don't see it, sorry. And if they are gonna be Mr and Ms Smith I'll shoot myself with imaginary gun. I like cat and mouse dynamic but that's all. Carrie is just too unstable and crazy and write too much into their relationship. She's delusional about Brody's feelings towards her. And I was so dissapointed when Brody gave up at last and confessed. I wish he would resist till the end and Carrie would get pissed. She's so eratic and stubborn to toothache. And that big insane eyes. Oh damn it. I wish they'd write her a relationship with that Rupert Friend character. And she'll let go off Brody at last.

And in the end of episode I kinda came to agreement with myself and acepted the decision of Brody CIA stunt. We'll see how it's gonna play out. I don't necessarily think that Brody became expendable coz of that decision. He's lead and Carrie alone in the series would be insanity non-stop.
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You are not the only one. Getting immunity for trying to blowup people is one thing. Getting immunity and also getting laid for that is just too much to stomach.



But then, knowing how television works, Carrie-Brody romance is inevitable. They will sleep together at least one more time, and without fail the whole thing will finally end up in tragedy.
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Homeland has never set up a "will they or won't they" romance. The intensity of the scenes between Brody and Carrie is in large part due to their romantic tension, yes, but it also stems from never knowing how either one of them feels. And just because he's allegedly on the side of the CIA doesn't mean they'll be catching terrorists together a la Mr. and Mrs. Smith. They will never be able to fully trust each other again. So the cat-and-mouse game they play will always exist, despite any romantic entanglements.
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I believe the CIA knew about Issa because of the tape. I don't remember what he said in that tape last season, but I guess he mentioned Issa's death as the reason why he tried to kill the US Veep
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Anybody else noticed that Brody's wife Jessica called him "Brody" when she called him on the phone and left a message. Why would his wife call him by his last name instead of Nicholas or Nick, especially when she shares his last name. Wonder if its just a slip up by the writers as I don't remember her calling him that before.
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I don't remember her ever calling him by his first name. I distinctly remember a few times during season 1 where she called him Brody. His surname is basically a nick/pet name.
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As someone who is in the military, most people are addressed by their last name, even outside work. But it always did strike me weird that she has always called him Brody. Maybe being around all his friends that call him Brody rubbed off on her. Guess he likes it too since everyone calls him that.
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She has always called him Brody, that`s all she has ever called him. I don`t think it`s weird she calls him by his last name. It could be something that started from the begining of their relationship. It`s not that big a deal.
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As far as I can recall she has only ever called him Brody and never once Nick/Nicholas.

I know a few women that call their partners by their surnames - usually its just the guy's nickname that never goes away (lots of guys are called by their last name). I suspect this would be particularly common for those in the military.
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Marvelous episode!



Carrie and Brody really should be together. Brody mentioned before that Carrie is the only one who understands him; especially now, in the new set-up, she is the only one with whom he can be himself. This is provided, of course, that he is really with the CIA.



Both need each other. In the Brody and Carrie talking scene, I specifically like the part when they weld each others hand. It symbolized emotional bonding.



Thanks for the review, Tim. Good one! :)
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BEST. SCENE. EVER.



These two make me weep and I say bring on the tears because I love watching them together, destroy each other bit by bit! *sigh*
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Wow, excellent episode! I was literally on the edge of my seat for most of it (particularly impressive since I started off watching the episode while lying down on the couch and do not even remember getting up). Anyone who objected to Homeland's Emmy wins need only watch this episode to understand!
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What a fantastic episode! I know some people seem to have reservations about Brody now helping the CIA but I think it's for the best. The terrorist side was destroying him and turning him into a monster, anymore killings and I think I would have to start hating him.



Also about the Issa thing, Brody clearly states the drone incident on the recording. Estes, realizing he was wrong probably disclosed all the info.



Lastly I'm ready to see Brody and Carrie together. Jessica moved on and clearly loves another man, and I think Brody is too broken. Make it happen writers!
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