Homeland Season 3 Premiere Review: The C-SPAN Season

Homeland S03E01: "Tin Man Is Down"


Hey, remember Homeland's second season? I don't, really, and I wrote hundreds of words about each episode as part of my job. While some of that forgetfulness can be attributed to old age and a long break between seasons, not all of it can be. I'm declaring selective memory on this one, because even my foggy brain recalls Season 2 had its fair share of problems we'd just as soon forget. Like when Brody murdered the bomb-vest maker in the series' most ridiculous episode ever, or when Vice President Walden was murdered via Wifi-enabled pacemaker, or when Dana Brody and Finn Walden ran over a poor lady with Finn's car. Homeland's difficult Season 2 high-wire act of balancing forbidden romance with domestic terrorism, a character-driven drama with high-stakes and action-oriented government operations, and Dana Brody the insightful teen daughter with Dana Brody the teen terror stumbled and fell to its death almost as often as it arrived safely on the other side. 

The Season 3 premiere, "Tin Man Is Down," mostly focused on Saul Berenson and Carrie Mathison. That was a wise choice on Homeland's part, because Saul and Carrie are the two characters who haven't made any missteps, story-wise, and Mandy Patinkin and Claire Danes can act their f*cking skulls off. 

So what did that mean for "Tin Man is Down"? It meant a season premiere with a dominant storyline that was mistake-free and stuffed with fascinating performances. It also meant a more mature season premiere. And by mature, I mean more C-SPAN-ish. And by C-SPAN-ish, I mean sans fireworks. "Tin Man Is Down" wasn't particularly eventful compared to Homeland's bigger episodes; most of its shots were fired verbally across a courtroom during Senate hearings between cranky Senators and enigmatic CIA members, rather than in exotic places between the good guys and the bad guys.


It's been two months since the explosion at Langley, and "Tin Man Is Down" opened with a shot of Carrie, her right hand raised, promising to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help her big guy in the sky. And it was Carrie's version of the truth that immediately got her in trouble. Despite everyone else in the country believing that Congressman Nicholas Brody was a turncoat who's now responsible for the death of 219 people in "the worst attack on this nation since 9/11" (with Estes and Finn included in that body count), Carrie is still clinging to the idea that Brody had no idea his car had a bomb in it, that he had nothing to do with the bombing. That's a fine thought to think in private, but Carrie went ahead and blurted it out, undermining her credibility like a 9/11 First Responder spouting some Truther gibberish. That's Carrie Mathison for ya!

In the meantime, Saul was getting comfy in his new role as Director of the CIA, which changes EVERYTHING about his relationship with Carrie. Saul can no longer play the rebellious CIA higher-up who serves as Carrie's confidante. Now he's the highest-up, and with that gig comes more responsibility to the American people and all that jazz. That means hunches and loose leashes are a thing of the past, because foiled plots and dead terrorists are all that matters. It also means that Saul is now the guy who has to make difficult decisions and produce immediate results, and he gave the go-ahead on the assassination of six prime targets in the Langley bombing, all of them civilians who played their part. But none of them were THE guy who ordered the attack (it was someone named Majid Javadi). Saul, logical guy that he is, would've rather waited until he had a shot at real-prize Javadi, but pressure forced him into kicking the field goal instead of going for the touchdown. A small victory now outweighed the chance at a big victory later, and in a sweet scene showing just how awesome American intelligence and military technology can be, all six targets spread out across the globe got vaporized or shot up within minutes of each other. Sadly, it felt like a hollow win. Welcome to your new job, Saul.


And the CIA could really use some good news right now, because it is struggling these days. Senator Andrew Lockhart (Tracy Letts), chairman of the Senate committee that's investigating the bombing, has been digging through the trash, and he wants to hold the CIA responsible. In addition to trying to move on from the blast that killed scores of Americans, the agency is dealing with an accusation of gross negligence—the attack took place on its home turf, and Carrie can't believe it happened under her nose. Sad! Despite the C-SPANity of these scenes, the Senate hearings were actually much more thrilling than they had any right to be, and a large chunk of that credit goes to Letts as Chairman Lockhart. That guy knows how to act like a huge dick. 

The fact is, the CIA made some shady, top-secret, and not-exactly-wise deals with Nicholas Brody—including the promise of immunity—and with all this hand-raising and truth-promising, the truth was going to come out sooner or later. Asking one person to stay quiet is one thing; asking a whole department to zip its lips is another. Someone was leaking documents to Lockhart, and by the time the story hit the papers that an unnamed CIA agent was boinking Brody right up until the bombing, something had to give. Saul, without naming names (and that's the only saving grace in this situation), confirmed that a bipolar, erratic agent had been sleeping with Brody and concealed her actions from the agency. Gee, who could that be? And how long could it possibly be until Carrie's name is attached? With Brody out of the picture, the betrayal of Carrie was left to Saul, and it hit nearly as hard. But given the situation, it's hard to say Saul had much of a choice. His options were either to protect Carrie or to protect the CIA. "A win would be nice. Another fuck-up would be fatal," Saul said. Well, he didn't get the win, and he may have distanced himself and the rest of the CIA from the fuck-up (i.e. Carrie). Just another miserable day working for the CIA. 

And just another miserable day being the teen daughter of a war-hero-turned-mass-murder-suspect, right? Despite a solid core, "Tin Man Is Down" was not without its questionable storylines. And Questionable Decisions may as well be the name of Homeland's upcoming Dana Brody spin-off. While everyone else used the two months that've passed since the bombing to mourn and lament the new sense of vulnerability in this country, Dana used the time to slit her wrists in the Brody household bathroom?! Whaaaaat!? Then she ended up at a treatment center with other troubled teens. Come again? And once she was mentally healed, she returned home and sent some tit pics to the cute boy she met during treatment? Ugh. At least her suicide attempt happened over the break. Can you imagine the uproar that would've ensued if we'd actually seen it?

Look, I've been as big a defender of Dana as anybody (Morgan Saylor is a tremendous young actress, I don't care what anyone else says), but is this really what Homeland needed? It's as if the Homeland writers Googled all their own characters names and saw that Dana was being talked about so much that they handed her a huge storyline without reading the adjectives that accompanied those search results. It's too early to write off this storyline as a terrible choice, but from what we've seen, it seems as though it's headed in that direction. If you ask me, the Brody family's relevance disappeared when Brody hightailed it into Canada. But here we are, still watching the Brodys (minus Nicholas and plus Grandma) eat dinner and talk too loudly. It's boring and perplexing, but it also means one thing: Brody will find his way back to his family somehow. Otherwise, what's the point? You're telling me that Homeland is going to split its time between stopping acts of terror in America and figuring out who Dana will take to prom? Something's up here, and we're right in that ultra-confusing gray area of not knowing what it is. We have to let this story play out, but I give you permission to complain about it at least until next week's episode. 

I don't know about you, but I was looking for a big Homeland reinvention as the show headed into Season 3 Brody-free; instead, the premiere focused on the relatively quiet aftermath of the Langley bombing (perhaps Season 3 is going to be dominated by Senators senatoring?). The episode provided a solid setup for Carrie and Saul—we'll undoubtedly be examining their roles in the bombing going forward—but it didn't tell us a whole bunch about what we can expect from the season. Maybe a deep breath was exactly what the show needed.  We'll see when it fully exhales.



WACKO SCRIBBLINGS FROM CARRIE'S "I HEART BRODY" DIARY

– Wow, that Peter Quinn is quite the badass! He built a bomb, slow-chased a car while on a scooter, ID'd a kid in the car and aborted the bombing, infiltrated a heavily guarded house, shot up half a dozen guards, shot the target through a desk, AND killed the kid for good measure! Take that, kid! Seriously though, don't go soft on us, Quinn. That child would've grown up to be a terrorist or a telemarketer or something! Also, who let the youngster out of his room once the bomb exploded? Poor parenting! Who was he, Carl from The Walking Dead

– I'm liking Dar Adal (F. Murray Abraham) as the devil on the Saul's shoulder. However, I still barely know how his character got involved in all of this. 

– So... Carrie is into gingers, eh? And having sex with her bra on. Also, here's my recommended name for the mystery redhead guy: Faux-dy.

– If they're so short on money, how could the Brodys afford to have their bathroom redone? Maybe a new shower curtain would have done the trick?

– Teenagers, help me out here: Is it really fair for a guy to send a return selfie of him shirtless when the original selfie from the girl was topless? That seems lopsided, if you ask me. Show a little buttcrack, cute boy from treatment!


UPDATE: Showtime has released the Season 3 premiere online for free, in hopes that it will compel you to subscribe. If you haven't seen it yet, now's your chance!



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Oct 14, 2013
I like it very much. I think I am the only person that likes Brody´s family, but I do. I don´t find Dana so anoying, and it is interesting to know what happens to the most wanted terrorrist family in the "day" after. But it´s true that I feel bored of Carrie very easily, so I like to watch other storys between her madness attacks... it´s just IMO (sorry for my English, no mother language)
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Oct 07, 2013
Good point about the Dana suicide attempt. That was never part of S2, it was just something that happened off camera. I suppose that is a realistic occurrence given what she's been through but I hope they don't spend too much time with the Brody's sans Dad.
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Oct 06, 2013
I liked part of Dana´s story last season, but if we have to see someone from the Brody´s it should be Jessica.
http://corleonesandlannisters.wordpress.com/2013/10/05/homeland-season-3-crazy-crying-is-back/
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Oct 06, 2013
I'm still confused over Tim calling Homeland the best show of 2012 despite skewering it so much, of course the skewering was all justified.

I don't mind that this episode was slow, it was still really good, although not one of the series' best. I'm more concerned about the Dana stuff which did not work.
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Oct 05, 2013
Any TV show with Mandy Patinkin in it will be good and worth watching. Remember Dr. Geiger in Chicago Hope? Or Jason Gideon in Criminal Minds?
And still a scene-stealer in Homeland. So I'm not bothered if it gets off to a somewhat slow and Brady-free start. We still have Saul...
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Oct 05, 2013
If Brody's not in the show from Ep 1, they should drop him and his family completely and do a quasi-reboot with a new plot.
And the pacemaker was based on actual headlines, so not impossible.
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Oct 05, 2013
If they wanted to write him off, they should've killed Brody in the final of S2. This way they'd have the perp (at least who they that was guilty) out of the picture and Carrie could work from within to try to get the real terrorists and clear Brody's name.
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Oct 02, 2013
As you said Tim, the premiere focused on the relatively quiet aftermath of the Langley bombing, and there really wasn't too much else they could have done in retrospect, so I was fine with the premiere, even though I found it a tad tiresome at times.

I had a problem with the Senate hearings, mainly because Chariman Lockhart is actually a big dick. I would expect someone more professional to conduct these hearings, and like Carrie's attorney said, they felt more like a witch hunt. I understand that he, and the rest of America, want someone to blame for the lives lost at Langley and for the culpability of the CIA, but I think Homeland should show us why Lockhart in particular feels this way instead of his just berating Carrie and Saul incessantly.

Carrie was perfectly insane, as usual, which is how I like her, but telling the senate hearing she thinks Brody's innocent? Urgh. Screw Dana, Carrie has the worst decision making skills ever. I liked her interrupting Sauls luncheon though, it was a nice display of her paranoia and anger on show, and as it turned out, she wasn't even that paranoid, because Saul threw her under the bus in the end (was her outburst possibly a contributing factor in his decision to do so?). I wasn't sure if I liked him doing this, I thought it was out of character, but as Tim mentioned, a suppose his new role means that his relationship with Carrie has to change, I just didn't expect it to happen in such a short period of time and in such a harsh way.

'At least (Dana's) suicide attempt happened over the break. Can you imagine the uproar that would've ensued if we'd actually seen it?'. I thought exactly the same thing when I was watching this episode. I'm giving the storyline a chance though, it hasn't progressed far enough for me to have an opinion on it, so I' reserving it for now. I still have a very strong opinion about Jess though, she's the worst mother ever. Who reacts like that to their daughter's suicide attempt? She's so self-absorbed.
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Oct 01, 2013
It was a quiet episode but I still loved it. The writing and the acting is phenomenal on this show and even the quiet punches hit home in superb fashion.

I loved every minute of season 2 and didn't see anything wrong with the season at all. It was so tense and had me on the edge of my seat each week. It even had me crapping myself, thinking Carrie could get killed in episode 2, even though she is the main character and to have me feel like that tells me how fantastic this show is. You just don't know what's around the corner with these characters. Its so good!
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Oct 01, 2013
The suicide attempt had me confused for a moment, wondering if I missed last season's last episode or something.
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Oct 01, 2013
Anyone else recognize Zach Hamilton from Dexter? I guess they put his brain back in.
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Oct 01, 2013
Haha yeah, he was the best thing about Dexters last season until they wrote him off.
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Oct 01, 2013
So I am all kinds of excited to get this ball rolling again. I was thrilled by every moment of the premiere.

I want to throw this zany egg in the basket early on. Based on the This Season On, we see Dana trying on Islam for size, and this suicide attempt just cements my theory.... By the end, I have her trying on her own bomb vest and going full terrorist to feel closer to Dad. Any takers?
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Oct 01, 2013
What's up with the messaging system? It's still not consistently working for the past week!! I already asked tv.com to fix it but it's still not consistently working like it use to work.

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Oct 01, 2013
And I can't access the forums, and the tv.com help email hasn't responded either :/
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Oct 02, 2013
did the tv.com email ever respond to your personal email (not talking about the message system)? I've never used it but I hate email despite loving the messaging system here at tv.com.
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Oct 03, 2013
Thank you so much btw, whether it's resolved soon or not!
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Oct 03, 2013
Well, my email's working but I've had no reply... and same issue with firefox :/
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Oct 03, 2013
If there are still problems then send a message to patsully~he is the site "fixer" (that's what I call him) and he has been very helpful and has been looking into this problem. He comments on the communities but if you don't find him there then he is on my list of people I am following and you can click his name and try to send him a message (it may go through). I'll pass on this info to him in case he hasn't seen it and you still can message him.
Cheers,
Vicky
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Oct 03, 2013
Nope, no access... I can't even comment there because I have to lo out just to see the page. Email seems to be the only way I can communicate this to them directly.
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Oct 03, 2013
good thing the email is working! Have you tried using Firefox? I know someone who was using Chrome and had problems but I think they got through using Firefox.
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Oct 02, 2013
Nah they never replied to the email. I tried PMing you just now but I got the same access error thing again :/
I have no doubt they'll fix it as long as they know about it!
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Oct 03, 2013
Hi there, we're testing more today to see if additional improvements are needed! We launched a fix earlier this week, so do me a favor and log out and back in if you haven't lately.
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Oct 02, 2013
If you are still having problems with the PMs then check out
http://www.tv.com/forums/show_site_blog_entry.html?topic_id=3380266
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Oct 01, 2013
I'm about to go to sleep but I will see if I can get this to patsully (he the site fixer and does a great job)
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Oct 01, 2013
Thanks, Vicky! He did send me a message but I'm unable to reply - apparently I do not "have access to send private messages". If you could get that across it would be great too. Thanks again!
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Oct 02, 2013
It may be fixed so try sending messages again. You can test it on me if you wish.

Apologies to everyone else for this OT post but I just wanted others to know it wasn't just them. I think the fabulous staff at tv.com fixed the glitch.
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Oct 01, 2013
What's up with the messaging system? It's still not consistently working for the past week!!
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Oct 01, 2013
"...but Carrie went ahead and blurted it out, undermining her credibility like a 9/11 First Responder spouting some Truther gibberish."
Interesting choice of words.
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Oct 01, 2013
the messaging system here hasn't been working consistently for the past week or more--hit or miss if messages are sent and/or received.
I'm not ignoring you but the site is having problems with the messaging system and I asked them about it but it's still not fixed;-(
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Oct 01, 2013
That's outrageous! How are we supposed to know when it's working again? Sending test-messages on a daily basis? Contacting the superior officer? Praying?
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Oct 01, 2013
As most people probably would agree, I enjoyed the scenes with Saul and Carrie, even the "trial" scenes. But the Brody household just has no reason to be featured right now..especially Dana. Her hit and run storyline last season was arguably worse than Kim vs the cougar in 24. I hope Homeland can steer away from that a little bit and focus on rebuilding a story for Nick or things could fall apart quickly.
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Oct 01, 2013
At the end of season 3, Carrie will learn that Saul is the bad guy and she'll spend season 4 trying to catch him.
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Sep 30, 2013
Whoever made the decision to keep a major role in the new season for Dana and the rest of the Brody family should be fired since their characters and storyline are uniformly marked by clunkily written dialogue and unbelievably bad acting. And just to up the annoyance ante of the Brody clan they introduce the grating know-it-all grandma who can't keep her opinions to herself; which makes scenes that would have been merely boring actually uncomfortable to watch. These poorly written family scenes seemed totally disconnected from the rest of the episode to the point it felt like watching two different shows spliced together. I'd rate this episode quite a disappointment and give it 6 on a scale of 1-10. If I don't see improvement (as in much less Brody family) in the next episode or two I'm likely to quit watching.
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Sep 30, 2013
I'm not sure how to feel here. This just didn't feel like the Homeland I remember. But somehow was also better? But not as good?

For one thing, we were obviously missing Brody. Brody and Carrie together is what made this show what it was. As for this episode, I feel like it was a little more realistic than some of the shenanigans from last season, but I'm not sure that's a great thing.

We all loved Breaking Bad, and as fantastic as that show was, I think we can all agree it wasn't always 100% uber-realistic. And some of those crazy moments were the shows best (Gus walking out with half his skull exposed for example).

I feel like Homeland is in the same category, that it is at it's best when there's some batshit crazy things happening. The "C-Span season" as Tim puts it might be more down to earth, and focusing on Carrie and Saul does mean great acting performances, but the crazy is missing, and I don't mean Carrie telling the CIA to fuck themselves.
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Sep 30, 2013
Also, Tim, when sexting, the pic order goes boobs, dong, and then full frontal. So yeah that kid totally cheated.
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Sep 30, 2013
I was really engross with Homeland season 1. It was simply fantastic. Season 2 was not with its problems but overall still better than average. However with such a concept and the tension of Carrie and Brody gone, season 3 had to be a totally new show. This pilot was quite disappointing. It really need to have a good story for season 3.


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Sep 30, 2013
I hope they have a good reason to bore us with Jessica and the kids. I heard this season will have a little more Carrie/Jessica interaction, so I think they're preparing for that. Other than that, I don't want to follow Dana around again. It's not a bad story in and of itself but it just doesn't fit into the mix. It didn't last season and I don't see how it will now (yet).
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Sep 30, 2013
One thing I agree with; Morgan Saylor is a great young actress and I look forward to her performance every episode.

As far as Carrie picking up strangers for random sex, that's what happens when a person with bipolar disorder goes off their meds. That and the scene in the restaurant are examples of "manic episodes". I know of what I speak.
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Sep 30, 2013
Ah, it was good to have a show of this caliber to watch, one that didn't make me vomit into my mouth and cause me to watch the clock in agony until it ended...you know, like Dexter did.

Good start, but...........if Saul is playing mind games with politico, why is he not sharing his plan with Carrie? He DOES know she's going to go all squirrely now, doesn't he? As evidenced by the previews, she does.

Good catch on the bathroom redo, and the financial trouble. WTF, Mrs. Brody?

Thank you, most annoying daughter actor (anyone see any scars on her wrists?), for not doing the Leonard Hofstadter finger diddling with sleeves too long bit.

Speaking of which, Showtime allows the minions to see the premiere for free, and CBS won't let me see The Big Bang Theory opening, which I missed? Cutie patootie Sheldon had a dream, or something? You suck, CBS, just as Scott Buck sucks.
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Oct 02, 2013
But the actor who played Zach in Dexter's eighth season, Sam Underwood, was in this episode as Dana's friend from therapy. How could you have possibly liked it with such a strong assocairion to Dexter?
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Oct 01, 2013
I think it's time you got over Dexter. :)
Yes, it was bad. So lets forget it and move on.
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Sep 30, 2013
The brody family needs to go away and I want to punch Carrie in her ugly face. Is it in her contract that she has to cry every episode and make such ugly faces?
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Sep 30, 2013
The main thing that seemed to be set up was for a return to Carrie being a blacks ops type and Brody, I guess, to being an even darker infiltration operative. The big question, for me, is which side will Brody ultimately take? He's now in a serious position to mix it up with the worst of the worst out there and not be questioned over loyalty to the US.
This may turn into an action packed series, which could be good. But then there's always his family to grind on the brakes and piss me off.
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Sep 30, 2013
What a silly premise, if you ask me. The CIA going to dissapear? So what? They would create a different intelligence agency. That would be tiresome, but at the end you haven't lost anything. Or anybody took it as if they were suggesting the USA to be without intellingence agency at all? Ha! Even if it's Secret Services or another similar agency that grows to cover for that type of activity, nothing is lost!

So why do I have to believe that Saul was facing an impossible decission here, to save Carrie or to save the agency? He wasn't saving anything but his new job, and eventually not even that. What a lame version of Saul. A version that I cannot buy because I don't see any stakes here. What is Saul trying to save?
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Sep 30, 2013
I quite liked how Homeland gave us the political and emotional aftermath of the bombing and showed us how everyone is gone a bit off the rail as a result of it. The Senate guy is an a-hole no doubt but it was dlear Carrie could not tell the truth about what really happened. After so many died, nobody is going to understand the nuances of her suspecting Brody (being the only one to have been right about him) and her later dalliance with him. Poor Carrie, no wonder she is picking up redheads in late night stores for a quickie. And poor Saul who cannot refuse being the Director when so many of his colleagues died but he hates doing the job and having to protect the agency throwing Carrie under the bus. Even Quinn could not escape the greyness that is Homeland and ended up killing that kid anyway. I hope Quinn sticks around. As opposed to the Brody clan that I wish we could send on Wit Sec please? I don't want to watch teenage angst esp. if Dana's boyfriend post those pics on the internet. Seriously enough of that. What I want to know is who the mole is /was cause clearly that is who allowed the bombing to proceed without the CIA suspecting anything... So I'd say solid start and I really think Brody will die this season but Homeland can still be a compelling show without him.
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Sep 30, 2013
I feel sorry for the Homeland producers. How do you say goodbye to your Emmy winning, twice nominated lead actor that you built your show around. How do you additionally say goodbye to some pretty high quality actors that surround his story arc away from Carrie? Morena Baccarin, Morgan Saylor & Diego Klattenhoff were all solid in their roles, but with no Brody, what is there for them to do? Further with the comparisons to '24' Dana is turning into Kim Bauer and I think it's been established that's not enough to pull together a significant story arc.

I don't see any feasible way for Brody to resume his life state side, so while it might be akin to cutting off your own arm after it's been pinned by a boulder...it might just be that time.
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Sep 30, 2013
I remember season 2 just fine...
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Sep 30, 2013
Awww, Saul's come a long way since is gleeful half-hidden-by-his-beard smile at the end of last season when he saw Carrie was alive. Being the top dog in the CIA is turning him into a bit more of an asshole -- one who has to focus on the whole "company" rather than a close friend and student (who, admittedly, has often lied to him). Burn Notice's Michael Weston is probably watching this from his cabin and nodding, sympathizing with Carrie.
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Sep 30, 2013
It was a little slow pace, but I still was captivated by the hour long eppy. It's so hard not to root for Carrie and Saul, so it will be a struggle to defend each at the sametime. One would assume we were watching a relationship of mentor to student in ruin, but in the back of my mind I remember Saul has always taken care of Carrie. I'm just not sure how he's doing it right now....but we have a whole season to find out. So agree with you about the Brody clan, without Brody who really cares about them. Although 2nd Season was a roller coaster, it had it's moments of clarity and reasoning.....we got Saul as a director which was a positive. Senator Lockhart is such an azzhat, but he's absolutely correct about the situation (well most of it) but I can't wait until he takes a big fall regardless. He's the type of politician most invision and most love to hate.
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Sep 30, 2013
The show still feels broken. Everything happening due to the Brody/Carrie stuff feels unimportant, because of the way they handled that entire situation last season, as a result, I liked the family stuff way more than the CIA stuff..

They need to introduce a big threat, give Carrie a good non-romantic reason to be working in a central way on said threat, and kill Brody for good. Basically drop everything introduced in the second season, and pretend that season 1 ended with the bomb going off.
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Sep 30, 2013
It was great to have Homeland back and they way they did it was pretty good and proper...but really how did they stick those 6 names to it all and the head honcho?? He hasn't even been seen in public in 19 years yet they know he's the one, and all this after 2 months? I wish that part was still a mystery and a major storyline this season.

I did miss Brody though...I mean, it's not really really Homeland without him.

So no Brody but we get his boring family and immensely boring storyline with his ever so annoying daughter and wife? Strike 1 Homeland. A no no.
Other than that, it's great to have it back!
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Sep 30, 2013
uggg... the family thing... it better bloody be minor... please... because ugg... so sick of it.
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Sep 30, 2013
I'm fine with Brody's absence, less Brody means more Carrie. I'm undecided about the rest of the Brodies though. I don't mind where their story is going but I'd prefer if we only saw a bit of it per episode. Oh well, still an awesome premiere, no complaints here!
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Sep 30, 2013
yeaahh! Show some buttcrack!!!
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Sep 30, 2013
In the last season finale Saul thought all he is left with is Carrie's ghost and now he's throwing her under the bus? That's a mighty leap for a heart to make.
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Oct 02, 2013
I found it a bit unrealistic too.
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Sep 30, 2013
WHERE THE F IS BRODY ?!?!? Cant believe they didnt show him on the season premiere.
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Sep 30, 2013
You must have been avoiding the spoilers. SPOILER:

He's not in the next ep either.

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Sep 30, 2013
You must have been avoiding the spoilers. SPOILER: He's not in the next ep either.
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Sep 30, 2013
"Been avoiding the spoilers? Well, here's another one." Classy.
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Sep 30, 2013
Well she's gonna be just as pissed next episode as she is now. She might as well go in prepared. And it's not like I told her what happens in the ep. Just what doesn't happen. Here's what doesn't happen also:

SPOILER: Carrie doesn't die. Neither does Saul. Neither does Brody. No one dies in the next ep. Shocking.
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Sep 30, 2013
It's a false argument to compare something that's unlikely to happen with something that's was easily possible. Also, the degree to which talking about someone dying, or getting caught, or--in this case--returning is a spoiler is situational. If Carrie rolled her car over a cliff, or took a mouthful of sleeping pills with a champagne chaser, it would be a much bigger spoiler to say she doesn't die from it next week, even if we know Showtime will never let her character die anytime soon. Similar to Quinn getting shot in the stomach again, or Saul's wife sleeping next to him with a dagger under her pillow.

But, this is pretty much explaining Algebra to someone that doesn't seem to grasp long division. Both should be basic knowledge to people over 18, but it's often that neither is the case. I don't know why you think people watch this show, or any other, but I can assure you it's not so people like you can decide when or if we're pissed or prepared. (This is the long division part.)
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Sep 30, 2013
The senate hearings were riveting, maybe because they made the CIA squirm, however it should be mandatory to attach Tim's review of the previous episode instead of the credits. We love your reviews Tim, don't ever stop reviewing.....
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Sep 30, 2013
Who are you Peter Quinn, you mysterious, almost unkillable man you? I admire your morals but they are a real handicap for a black ops agent no? What is your story? I am looking forward to the peeling back of your many dark layers.
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Sep 30, 2013
I agree totally that more Quinn should be good... I may be wrong but I think it was implied that there may be black op rules against killing children if it can be avoided. I may have misread it and I guess some operatives may ignore them but nobody blinked when he said he hadn't killed the target due to a kid
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Sep 30, 2013
I like Homeland, and this episode definitely didn't change that. I was disappointed that there was no Brody, but very happy that we have Rupert Friend as a regular! He was robbed of an Emmy!
I can't see Dana taking naked selfies going anywhere good, and I really hope her (or the whole Brody family's) storyline goes somewhere this year, because I too still think that Morgan Saylor is great, and Morena Baccarin was pretty good last year despite the phone call while Brody was killing a dude. Also, is it just me or does Chris look a lot older now? Also, where the fuck is Mike?!
I felt really bad for Saul throughout this episode, but then he made me hate him a little bit when he dropped Carrie in the shit. And speaking of Carrie, that committee must be rubbing their hands in glee right now, because she is a total mess giving wrong evidence and not talking, and generally not knowing what the fuck she's supposed to say/do.
Overall, I think the signs look positive for this season. Then again, as long as Homeland can turn to Mandy Patinkin or Claire Danes to act their arses off each week, I'm going to keep watching and I will be enthralled...
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Sep 30, 2013
I had to giggle when Tim called Carrie's hookup "Faux-dy" because that sounds quite a lot like a slang which in Portuguese means, putting it elegantly, "I had sex."
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Sep 30, 2013
Poor Carrie talk about getting burned over and over :(
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Sep 30, 2013
Would've liked to see Brody. Otherwise, I enjoyed it.
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Sep 30, 2013
I really liked this epi. It was a lot of talking and close pans of faces. Ok Saul you acted like a turd in this. The expression on Carrie's face at the end listening to Saul was heart wrenching. Poor Carrie she is such a damaged nut job. And yes Lockheart is a total dick weed. I will be glad when Brody gets back into the picture. OMG ugggg I hate Dana so bad. I wished she had kicked the bucket. This young actress may be good but man I hate her character, in fact I can't stand none of that family except Brody. Any who I am really looking forward to the new season. This one of my favorite shows on tv. Yes Quinn is badass.


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Sep 30, 2013
The family's inclusion is getting tiresome, and even if Brody is going to find his way back to them, I don't see why a Dana-centric storyline is necessary on a show that features the CIA and it's agents. Where is Mike btw? Didn't Brody basically hand his wife and family onto him?
I really loved Season 1 and I'm worried it's becoming one of those shows that has a ton of potential but takes a weird turn and never relaizes it. Like everyone else I've heard the "Damien Lewis was going to be killed of but he was just too good" and now I'm thinking it might have been better if they had?
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Sep 30, 2013
He's on the Blacklist.
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Sep 30, 2013
Superb episode, but to be honest to you Tim, I didn't find your review very thoughtful or interesting, especially considering how thought-provoking and layered this show and its characters are, IMHO.

First you dedicated an entire paragraph to remind us what you though about season 2. Ok, we get it, you're not a fan of season 2 and the only scenes you seem to remember were the least memorable ones in it, IMHO, now move on...

"Carrie's version of the truth" = The truth - She has been always right about everything, especially when everyone believed she was wrong.

"Carrie is still clinging to the idea that Brody had no idea his car had a bomb in it, that he had nothing to do with the bombing."
- She's not clinging to a idea, she simply knows the truth about Brody, about who he really is, and nobody else knows, just like when everyone thought he a was a hero in season 1, only now it's the reverse situation.

"awesome American intelligence and military technology"
- It was efficient, but killing people is never awesome, no matter who they are, IMHO, and didn't you saw the innocent boy that was killed by accident?

"Saul, without naming names (and that's the only saving grace in this situation), confirmed that a bipolar, erratic agent had been sleeping with Brody and concealed her actions from the agency."
- In other words, he LIED, or at the very least DISTORTED THE TRUTH, to save the CIA from having all the blame (which it has) in not preventing the worst terrorist attack since 9/11, or even been able to protect itself from that said attack.

"Something's up here, and we're right in that ultra-confusing gray area of not knowing what it is."
- For me it's ultra-intriguing and I can't wait to see what happens next, but maybe that's just me...

"Take that, kid! Seriously though, don't go soft on us, Quinn. That child would've grown up to be a terrorist or a telemarketer or something! Also, who let the youngster out of his room once the bomb exploded? Poor parenting! Who was he, Carl from The Walking Dead?"
- I didn't find any of those childish jokes funny in any way, IMHO.
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Sep 30, 2013
She believes the truth about Brody. She doesn't know she's right, just like in the opposite situation.
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Sep 30, 2013
Ok, I'll give you that. But her belief in the truth about Brody now is much stronger that it ever was in the opposite situation in season 1.
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Sep 30, 2013
But should it be? She is right, but why should her doubts be so much less now?
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Oct 02, 2013
I get what you both are saying, but isn't the audience meant to be sceptical about Brody's involvement in the bombing, even if Carrie is not? Homeland's always been about paranoia and distortion of the truth and if Carrie think Brody is innocent, and if the audience think Brody is innocent, the show pretty much loses a lot of what makes it good. The question is meant to be there.
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Oct 01, 2013
Ehh, I guess. It still sounds like what you said at the top. She knows this, and she knows that. None of that's really certain about Brody. Most of what she knows, she'd already known. She had his file, she knew his history. She had a genuine personal connection with him before, and he pretty much destroyed her the first time. Sure, she knows more, but it just didn't feel like enough more. What, a few weeks together after he was revealed? His main motivation was killing the man who ordered the strike against his captor's son. I don't see why understanding that would convince Carrie he didn't kill the others, even if the VP was already dead. Ehh.

And when the bomb went off, she immediately accused him, which to me, was natural. It's fine that he convinced her that he didn't do it, but he did have to convince her, and even after that, she still doesn't know. She believes in him, but while he's innocent in this bombing, their connection hasn't truly been tested with actual together time. It's pretty much a sliver of the honeymoon period, before her next bipolar dip, before they have to deal with his asshole daughter, etc.

I just can't see how she doesn't wonder if she let the most successful murderer of government officials go free, and it would be a hugely missed opportunity if we don't see her struggle with a decent amount of doubt.
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Sep 30, 2013
Because she now has much more information about Brody, has a much better understanding of how his mind works and what were his motivations for doing the things he did. Because she spent enough time with him to be very confident about how deep his love for her has become, about how much that helped him find himself and evolve into a better person, and that he will never betray her or their country.
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Sep 30, 2013
Yeah, so...

It's been said here that the writers wanted to kill off Brody (as he does deserve), but it's been said by me that it would've been a bad idea, and that's pretty much reinforced for me this week.

To be fair, it's just a "Where are we now" episode at the beginning of the season, but I mostly wish we weren't...here. I really wish more than two months had passed; I would've been good with a few years, anything to have Brody's family move away. Carrie gets to foolishly tell off a few dickbag senators and we possibly get to watch her melt down...again, but I've never found her interesting with Brody and I don't much find her interesting without, especially if she's getting booted off the job...again. She gets to figure everything out, and no one gets to believer her...again. I'm tired of her in general, and the 'Carrie's right and at odds with the entire world' angle is really tired and repetitive. If she's going to be great at her job, well, great, but let's get off her fragile nuts and let her do it, then. The awesome doesn't counterbalance all the adversity.

What I needed was to see where Brody was, and some kind of believable disguise or seclusion to explain how the most wanted man in the world has gone two months without getting caught.

Saul's fine, but not in any way that would make me watch the show for him. He's in the Boss tier, usually the person that prevents the excitement, hardly ever the cause.

Now, Quinn (great to have a Quinn that doesn't suck) could possibly replace Brody as an interesting lead. We still don't know how far his job reaches, but we do know he's badass enough to play dead while suffering from a bullet wound to the gut. I hear those are really painful.

So they could possibly pull off switching Brody's half of the lead to Quinn. I like Baccarin, but honestly, it would almost be worth it if replacing Brody could get rid of the rest of his family. Brody not here, but the daughter *is* here? No. C'mon.

If not, Brody needs to appear soon. Carrie and Saul can't carry this show for even an episode.
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Sep 30, 2013
I thought it was great
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