How I Met Your Mother "The Ashtray" Review: When The Captain Calls

How I Met Your Mother S08E17: "The Ashtray"

I’m torn over where "The Ashtray" should rank among How I Met Your Mother’s Season 8 episodes so far. The episode was funny, multi-layered and even brought back a few old HIMYM friends. But it also confirmed that the show has put on the brakes to buy time before we hit the season finale, and the humor didn't quite live up to that of the past two episodes (Robin Daggers and Ted’s crazy girlfriend).

"The Ashtray" kicked off with Ted noticing he had a message on his answering machine (and, yes, Marshall agrees with you that it’s weird that Ted still has an answering machine) from The Captain. The character, played by Kyle MacLachlan, is the ex-husband of Zoey—the girl that Ted fell in love with, dated, and almost threw away his architecture career for. I found it interesting that Ted referred to Zoey as the woman “who I ended up befriending” in his voiceover. Don’t Ted’s kids already know more about Zoey and her relationship with their father than they ever should?

Ted and the gang proceeded to try to recap for Marshall the last time they saw The Captain, with Ted, Robin, and Lily each telling progressively more complete versions of the story.


Ted’s Version

Ted, Robin, and Lily were at an art gallery that Lily had seen advertised, when the group ran into The Captain. Ted described The Captain as being very rude, recalling that he kept finishing Ted’s sentences. After The Captain introduced his art consultant to the group, he invited them upstairs to see a new piece of art he'd recently acquired. When Ted mentioned his relationship with Zoey, The Captain pulled a harpoon gun on him. Luckily Ted talked him down, and The Captain took Robin and Lily to his bedroom to see the aforementioned painting. While they were gone, Ted noticed a picture of Becky, Robin’s former coworker and current BOATS BOATS BOATS spokesgirl, on The Captain’s desk. Ted who was once again seeing Becky, realized that he and The Captain were once again competing for the same woman. In the present day, Ted returned The Captain's call to find out that his former nemesis only wanted Robin’s phone number.


Robin’s Version

Robin pointed out that before Ted met up with her and Lily, he'd “shared a big, fat sandwich” with Becky, which on HIMYM translates to “he was really, really high.” As it turned out, The Captain wasn’t being rude to Ted, he was simply completing Ted’s sentences because Ted was baked and kept freezing up. Ted also screamed like a little girl whenever he saw The Captain, and said out loud what was supposed to be an internal monologue about The Captain being angry because Ted was “sticking it” to Zoey. But it turned out that The Captain had a romantic interest in Robin, extending the invite to his apartment to her while seductively applying chapstick. And that harpoon gun? Just The Captain with a remote control trying to record The Real Housewives. According to Robin, she let The Captain down gently and told him to call her in a year and a half. With that year and a half now up, Robin called The Captain to tell him she's engaged, only to realize that The Captain was actually looking for Lily.


Lily’s Version

In reality, Ted wasn’t the only one who'd made a fool of himself at the art gallery, as Robin had shown up pretty sloshed herself. In addition to trying to preventing her friends from embarrassing themselves further, Lily talked up an elephant painting at the gallery to The Captain, but was dismissed by his art consultant. Despite that, The Captain still invited her upstairs to check out a new painting in his bedroom. Lily followed and once again expressed her fondness for the elephant painting. The Captain rudely replied that Lily was just a kindergarten teacher, so what would she know about art? At this moment, a very drunk Robin stumbled into The Captain’s bedroom, kissed him, and immediately fell asleep. Under the law of Aldrin Justice, Lily stole an expensive ashtray from The Captain’s apartment and assumed that he was calling her to get it back.

The episode’s three-tiered approach to this story accomplished a few things. For one, it showed that HIMYM hasn’t lost its knack for finding new and creative ways to tell a pretty straightforward story. The series is quite skilled at stretching a quick story to fill an entire episode (like the time Ted and Marshall got high and thought they were lost at Groove Palooza). But the bigger impact of the story was that it forced Lily to face the feelings of failure she's been dealing with this season. We first learned that Lily wasn’t content with just being a mom when she and Ted were having a heart-to-heart on the apartment’s roof in "Band or DJ?"; in "The Ashtray," The Captain’s dismissal of Lily’s opinion of art once again reminded her that “somewhere along the line, I forgot to pursue my dream.” Lily has Marshall and Marvin and her friends, but she never became the great painter she once dreamed she'd be. Marshall tried to console Lily by telling her that she still had her best days ahead of her and that she could quit her job and reclaim her dream. Lily refused to buy Marshall’s plan and decided to return the ashtray.

To Lily’s surprise, The Captain hadn’t even realized the ashtray was missing; the reason he'd invited her over was to show her that he'd bought the elephant painting she'd recommended. In the months following the purchase, the artist had become famous, and The Captain had sold the painting for $4 million. Lily had been right about it, and now The Captain wanted her to become his art consultant.

And just like that, Lily’s existential crisis was solved. So... yay? I’m sorry, but I can’t buy the easy resolution to this one. I think it’s partially because HIMYM has presented many different versions of Lily and Marshall this season. One week they’re caricatures of themselves; the next, Lily is doubting her entire life. Lily knowingly chose this life over the artist’s life she once dreamed about, openly admitting that going to San Francisco and leaving Marshall was a mistake. This storyline not only bores me but it seems completely unrealistic eight years into the series.

It looks like we’ll get to see the resolution of Ted's relationship with Crazy Jeanette next week. I guess she took the night off from stalking Ted in this week’s episode?



NOTES & QUOTES


– Ted, Marshall, and Barney struggling to decipher the tone of The Captain’s message was a great callback to Marshall demonstrating the durability of The Captain’s face when trying to determine whether he was friend or foe.

– The arcade game that Marshall was storing in Ted’s apartment in "Bad Crazy" was still there in this episode.

– It's interesting that Barney stated, “If you have a crazy story, I was there. It’s a law of the universe,” in an episode that mentioned Zoey; Barney was the Blitz during the Thanksgiving gathering when Zoey and the gang became friends, which means he missed out on a bunch of crazy stories.

– “She’s Boats Boats Boats and he’s The Captain. That’s sweet. I’m happy for those two,” Marshall said after Ted informed him that Becky was The Captain’s new love. Knowing that Ted went back to dating Becky really demonstrates how random his love life has been these past few years.

– While having an argument with himself, Barney slapped his own face. Too bad that doesn’t count toward the Slap Bet.

– Robin explaining her encounter with The Captain to Barney: “Nothing happened.” Barney: “Aw, that means hand stuff...”

– I’m pretty sure the last time we saw Lily carry out Aldrin Justice, she was stealing Hammond Druthers’ baseball. Druthers was Ted’s architect boss, played by Bryan Cranston. I’m pretty sure Heisenberg wouldn’t go for that these days.

– While Ted, Lily, and Robin swore that Barney wasn’t around on the night they ran into The Captain, they allowed him to think he was actually there in disguise, executing a play called the Archduke of Grand Fenwick. Or at least they thought they were letting him play along; The Captain mentioning that his art consultant “was off with some archduke she met at the party” kind of changed the veracity of Barney’s story.


What'd you think of "The Ashtray"?

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Considering Lily has been trying to break into the art world for 8 seasons now and she's the last one to achieve her career dreams was it really an easy resolution? She has an eye for art, she made a suggestion, someone made 4 mil off that suggestion and hired her. that sounds like less of an easy out and more like someone finally recognizing her skill after years and years of trying.
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So far these season is a letdown compare to previous HIMYM episode as it showing its years, the episode provided a few chuckles during different version of the ashtray stories but far from funny. Lily and Marshall are the only characters holding the show and enough with dragging the mothers identity.
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I actually thought this was one of my favourite episodes of the season. Apart from the Final page part 2, this was the episode I thought was closest to the way HIMYM used to be in the past. I actually laughed quite a bit in this one. I loved the re-telling of the stories from each person's perspective. To be honest, Lily's existentialist crisis and the moment Barney had that whole heartfelt discussion about how he doesn't want to miss out on crazy stories because he has nothing going on for himself was the low part of the episode for me. Not that I don't like their sad moments, it just didn't feel keeping in tune with the rest of the episode. But other than that I liked it much better than the last few storylines with the crazy girlfriend.
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This wasn't my favorite episode, but I laughed really hard every time they showed Ted slapping the tray out of the waiter's hand. For some reason that just really struck me as funny.
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That was my favorite part of the episode! I literally did a spit take while watching it. That, and his delayed "Manners!" quip.
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While it was slow starting, this episode really grew on me at the end. I think they're being very realistic with Lily. Everyone flip-flops in their lives. Everyone has that thing they regret that keeps sneaking back into their minds. While Lily's life has been pretty happy and pretty successful, she still has that thing that she really does want, despite what she might say to keep others happy. I thought this change was very grounded and very subtly executed. This week wasn't a "HEY EVERYONE, THIS WEEK'S EPISODE IS ABOUT LILY" kind of episode and that was refreshing.
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I'm sorry, but this episode just wasn't very good. It wasn't funny at all, except for a few chuckles here and there from Barney, and the plot was pretty weak, so it wasn't a very compelling piece of television. Just listen and pay attention to the laugh track on this show a lot of times...even THEY, the people who are supposed to egg us on to laugh, at every remotely funny moment...they only chuckled through the entire show. The show really didn't succeed on either side of the coin (comedy, drama) and it really just felt like a big waste of time.
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so did barney hook up with the art consultant or not? was he really there, or were they just making a joke out of the fact that they were letting him think he was there? I NEED TO UNDERSTAND
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I think some of you who have read my previous posts will know how I felt about this episode! I LOVED IT. Ah, finally a fun episode that featured the great cast working to make us laugh. Its been a while since we had the crew do a back and forth on the story which is one of my favorite things this show does.

AND ALSO I"M SO THRILLED WITH THE LILY STORY LINE. FINALLY! Back to her real character the realatable one we want to be friends with. AH is so great when she gets to play Lily character with Marshalls support.

Lots of laughs, very enjoyable episode. This is one that made me LOVE this show.

Don't forget to give us more of Ted's journey HIMYM but if you are going to drag it out, please please please have more epiosdes like this one! :)
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I enjoyed this episode, unlike most people who want story progression, I kind of like the filler episodes of this show, plus this was an episode for Lily, a chance for her character to get some closure on her dreams.
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sorry but this episode bored me to death. a rehash of previous told jokes and happenings crammed into one episode.
barneys playbook, lilys stealing, teds fight with the captain, robyns need to be sexy....yawn. to what end? lilys need to be something more than a kindergarten teacher...after she said a while ago that its what she really wanted.

the last two episodes were awesome and hilarious but this was wasted 20min.

and lately everything that barney does and says involving him trying to be his old self seems fake after the whole proposal and loving just one woman.

anyway hope the next one is better, cant wait for teds crazy girlfriend
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I'm so tired of stories which aren't interesting enough to be told once. Lately, every episode has contained at least once story which is retold in sevreal different ways, like the time Robin spent alone with Marvin and how Ted didn't actually break up with his crazy girlfriend. They writers are too lazy to fill a whole episode without flashbacks (which are technically within a flashback, as that's the whole premise of the series) and it's getting really tedious to watch. Is it just me who cringes whenever I detect that a character has mistold a story and wish that they'd just tell the truth so the story could actually develop a little further in the half hour period?
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Yes.
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Another completely uninteresting episode. The series is just threading water and reusing narrative techniques that may have felt fresh four seasons ago. So boring and predictable.
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Well, at one point wasn't there concern this would be the final season?

Perhaps this episode was written while the show was in limbo as a way to give a semi-happy ending to Lilly. So the show would end with her doing SOMETHING related to her big dream.

Even ignoring the whole conversation-with-Ted a few episodes back, things did look a little sad for her. The early seasons were all about her being an artist... but even her pet-art business seems to have replaced by Teaching and Parenting. So this filled that hole in nicely.
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A good filler but I'm getting more than a little antsy, I want to find out who the mother is so bad, it's been dangling in front of us for years and now that we're in the home stretch it's all the more painful.
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I laughed so hard at this episode, awesome filler that brought back and old days of HIMYM.
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They could spend at least a half a season with each of the other cast members meeting the mother, trying to get Ted to date her, and him continually blowing her off (a la Peter Parker and Mary Jane Watson in the first couple of years of Amazing Spider-Man comics. Pete went through a few lady-loves before marrying MJ. Betty Brant, Gwen Stacy, the clone of Gwen Stacy, Felicia Hardy...)
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I agree, I didn't like how quickly Lily fell into her perfect job, but now that the writers know that they have a final season to go, Lily and Marshall's futures aren't going to be a huge part of it. We already knew marshall became an enviromental lawyer, and is very successful, and while Lily being successful hasn't been mentioned, nither has a scenario where she was unhappy or unsuccessful, so they tossed her a quick TD. No matter when Ted meets his future wife (and I am still pulling for it to be the last episode), I think Lily meets her first, and it is through those meetings and stories that everyone sees how perfect she is for Ted. Andd because Lily has spent so much time making sure Ted doesn't end up with the wrong girl, it is her approval of her that Ted needs to finally meet her. If she has a new job or goes back to teaching by next season, it is not important to me.
And Brney saying he is always in the crazy stories is just a bit of hyperbole on his part, it is what he does. He and Ted broke up for a while, and he had nothing to do with their adventures and he never complained about it. He just likes to be part of Ted's stories, so he wanted them to include him in it when he knew he wasn't, but he isn't delusional about it.
Marshall wanting to steer the boat was funny, but the idea that he and Lily have a price guide for sleeping with rich people was hilarious. I know they talk to each other about everything, but I am disappointed the writers didn't show that conversation, it sounds like they went into some funny depth on that one. Not settling for less than 2.8 sounds about right. Good to see another episode of Ted eating a sandwich, though after 8 years I imagine his kids have cracked that code.
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Felt so sorry for Lily...She's the only one in the entire group who hasn't even taken baby steps towards her dream. Ted's contributed to the NY skyline, Robin's part of World Wide News, Barney is god-knows-what but he seems to revel in it, and she put Marshall through four years of law school to help fulfill his dreams... Yeah..it WAS a too-easy resolution, but I think she deserves it .

But I'll be honest, the humor in this ep wasnt quite up there....
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Plus, Barney has made some dreams come true.
- He was on "The Price is Right" and met the man he (maybe) thought was his father. This was a REALLY big deal for him.
- He finally met his REAL father and started having a real relationship with him.
- He seems to be quite happy with his job and that it affords him a bunch of kick-arse stuff like full size Star Wars models / costumes.
- And he MIGHT be getting married to a woman that truly makes him happy.
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Where were you when Lily split up from Marshall to pursue her dream of becoming an artist? It was spread out over, like, half a season.
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But she wasn't successful, was she? She came back and she's been with him ever since, supporting him in nearly everything he's done.
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Agreed with Grim... the "leaving Marshall" bit was essentially her going to California to take a class. That's like saying "taking an offensive driving course" means you made your dream of being Nascar racer.

The only forward momentum Lilly had to her dream was when she found out that animals like her art and started selling paintings to Vets. But I imagine being a mother and a teacher killed that business.
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