Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. "T.A.H.I.T.I." Review: Blue Skyes Ahead?

Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. S01E14: "T.A.H.I.T.I."


I won't waste any time beating around the bush: "T.A.H.I.T.I." was not the return episode I was hoping for. It's not that it was bad—I enjoyed it and I think it was far better than some of the series' earlier episodes—but looking at it from a critical perspective, there were some flaws. I could blame the show's ill-timed month-long hiatus after a really wonderful episode like "T.R.A.C.K.S." for building up ridiculous expectations that the series could never live up to, but it's probably more accurate to say that my complaints about "T.A.H.I.T.I." go deeper than that. The episode didn't work the way it should have, because despite all of the characters proclaiming otherwise, this team of agents is not yet a family. 

The idea of an unconventional family unit is a staple of Joss Whedon shows, and S.H.I.E.L.D. has often tried to sell Coulson's team as being a weird and wacky family in a way that doesn't quite fit everything we know about the group at this point in time. If S.H.I.E.L.D. was in Season 3, I think the sentiment would have made sense. But Simmons said it herself: They've only been working together as a team for a few months now. I've known people for years and don't like them enough to call them family. I don't even care enough to send them Christmas cards (I don't send Christmas cards). Sure, my friends and I don't work for a super-secret organization and haven't faced any life-or-death situations together (except for that time with the fireworks), but the point is: How can S.H.I.E.L.D. really be considered a family after only a few months on the job?


Coulson has known May for a very long time, and Fitz and Simmons feel like they grew up together, so there are some instances where the series' longer-term relationships give off the appearance of a deep familial bond. But at the moment, those relationships don't include Skye. I'm not quite so heartless to say that the team wouldn't or shouldn't react to Skye's failing health in a desperate way—they're human, after all—but statements like Coulson's "We're her family" ring false on account this so-called "family" having only known each other for a few months.

Fitz's reaction to Simmons' apparent death in "F.Z.Z.T." was a perfect example of how this sort of situation can lead to a great emotional arc and become a story that really resonates with the audience. But I can't say the same for what happened with Skye—a character that many fans of the series have taken issue with—as she lay dying in a hospital bed aboard the Bus while the rest of the team attempted to track down the surgeons and the medications used to bring Coulson back to life. 

Of course, "T.A.H.I.T.I." was not about saving Skye—it was about discovering yet another piece of the complicated Coulson puzzle. Ian Quinn admitted that he shot Skye because the Clairvoyant told him to, and we all know the Clairvoyant only wants to know what happened to Coulson. This development severely undermines the Skye Is Going to Die situation, because it's not even about her. Once it became clear that Skye was simply a pawn in this really screwed-up game of I Spy, we had to look at the entire situation in a new light. If the team saved Skye, they would potentially be giving their unseen omniscient enemy exactly what it wanted. If they didn't save Skye in an effort to keep their enemy at bay, well then they'd all be a bunch of assholes, right?


Coulson and Skye share a bond that borders on a father/daughter relationship (although that's still a stretch at this point), and he feels responsible for her, which makes his reaction to Skye's predicament—and the role he indirectly played in putting her there—completely within reason. Fitz's guilt over letting Skye go off on her own to search for Quinn in "T.R.A.C.K.S." also fits the story, even as Simmons correctly pointed out that there's not much to be done once Skye sets her mind to something. Oddly enough, it was almost as if Fitz's guilt gave him a certain confidence at the Guest House that we haven't seen in awhile, and I'd like to keep it around. When he walked out of the elevator like he didn't care what would happen to him (even if he rightfully assumed that nothing would happen until they made it through the bulletproof glass), it made me respect him a little more. Even Simmons' reaction to Skye's situation was acceptable, because she's the one with the medical training, and she'll ultimately blame herself if Skye dies. 

As for the rest of the team, I buy that Handsome is angry, but that's also his default setting. I was hoping we'd get more out of this than Handsome begging for a fight and throwing mean-girl stares at Coulson's back. S.H.I.E.L.D. had an opportunity to give his character some shading, but instead, it just rehashed everything we already knew about him. May's reaction was perhaps the most out of character; the woman has never shown more emotion than a toothpick, and yet she went to town on Quinn's face for putting Skye in that life-threatening situation. Puh-leeeze. All of these reactions were perfectly normal responses to knowing that a member of the team as dying in the next room, but we need more time for S.H.I.E.L.D. to really coalesce as a family before "We're her family" is anything more than a platitude. 


Even though it may not sound like it, I did enjoy "T.A.H.I.T.I."—just not as much as I thought I would. And now that I've got my bitching out of the way, let's quickly run through the rest of what happened this week and all the questions that've arisen as a result. Coulson, Handsome, and Fitz, alongside Bill Paxton's Agent John Garrett, were able to find the medication used to save Coulson and administer it to Skye, thus saving her life. No one actually thought Skye would die, right? Unfortunately, saving her life life came at a price. Who and what was the alien in the tube at the Guest House? Was he Kree? Was he a member of the Blue Man Group? And what effect, if any, will this have on Skye, who we already knew was an 0-8-4? Will it unlock some dormant part of her biology? Will it give her powers as a result? More importantly, what has it done to Coulson, if anything? I'm very excited to see where this goes, but I can't stop thinking about the mysterious blue-skinned humanoid in the Guest House. The G.H. couldn't have stood for Guest House at that point, right? And BTW just WTF does T.A.H.I.T.I. stand for? Because I'm so over typing it at this point that if it's going to become a real thing, I need to know right now. Knowing it's a real acronym and not just a randomly selected destination to implant in Coulson's memory makes me slightly less stabby at having to write it out, but still.

It's unclear whether S.H.I.E.L.D. had always intended to take this route with Skye, or if the writers have simply come to understand that many viewers aren't happy with a comic book series that doesn't include anyone with superhuman powers, but even the possibility of introducing such powers, and the introduction of more alien lifeforms, will never be a bad thing. And now that Lorelei has arrived on Earth, and knowing that Lady Sif will appear in next week's episode, I think we might actually be looking at a series that's far more exciting than the one we previously knew. 



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 Everyone kept saying how Skye was an integral member of the team every time a computer-hacking issue arose, but they eventually found a workaround every time, which ultimately undercuts the Skye Is an Important Member of This Team mentality that everyone seems to have. I don't subscribe to the notion that S.H.I.E.L.D. needs to write her off, but the show certainly isn't doing itself any favors in that regard.

– Thoughts on Bill Paxton? I love Bill Paxton. I'm very happy he'll be around for several episodes this season. But can we trust Bill Paxton?

– Coulson wasn't treated by S.H.I.E.L.D., which is very interesting. Who were those guys, if not S.H.I.E.L.D.? And all of this talk about Director Fury means he has to appear again, right?

– I personally really enjoyed the scene in which Fitz and Simmons were going through all those documents. But it looked kind of tiring. I can go through a lot of documents on my computer and sit on my ass. They had to do full body movements and stuff. OMG I am tired just thinking about it.

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Jun 06, 2014
Kaitlin, since your first review of this show your only nitpicking, grumbling and looking for small things to complain about - mostly with very unfair arguments
("Why is a show with 22 episodes in the first season and more seasons to come not telling us all its secrets in the first three episodes? Why are the characters not fully fleshed out and developement immediately from the start? Why are people who spend day and night with each other, depending with their life on each other for at least half a year suddenly like each other? yada yada yada...").

Why is there so much negativity and bias against the show?
And why are you still watching it when it's so bad?
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May 09, 2014
So I am finally getting caught up on the show, mainly because I have a few friends that are fans. I don't hate it as much as I did at the start, but it still is not very high on my list.

Did anyone else feel really bad for the two guys who were killed in this episode? I mean, they were just doing their jobs and were murdered so Coulson could save Skye. Why is it that the agents use the knockout gun on villains but shoot hundred of holes into good guys?
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May 06, 2014
Too be honest I think you are putting too much negativity in this. Just because you have only known people for few months do not mean they can't be a family. Besides they are in a completely different situation from you and your friends. They face possible death every single time and people can make connections like that. Also they are her family, she has no one else and they are always together.
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Apr 06, 2014
anybody else think that the blue alien looks a lot like a Frost Giant from Thor?!?!
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Mar 30, 2014
Why are you always so negative about this show Kaitlin? , try to see the good things about it , there are countless tv series who
are vastly inferior to SHIELD , think about that next time please!
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Mar 26, 2014
I didnt want to read all the comments, so maybe this was already mentioned, but the majority of overlap between the show and the greater MARVEL movie universe is on the THOR side, so I'm assuming the blue alien was a FROST GIANT. This show hasn't introduced anything before the movies, so i doubt they would introduce the Kree before Guardians, but i could be wrong.
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Mar 15, 2014
Could still be Guest House. An alien is a guest to our planet.
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Mar 13, 2014

Oh and Now that marvel is free he can regen and come back for a movie or something
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Mar 13, 2014
Well I know that the blue guy is kree and that carl, has a voice in his head of marvel but he is not marvel and sky is a hybrid and the injection might cause her to manifest powers of kree. but she is not miss marvel as the character will be in a later movie and a cameo in a sooner one I think still not sure on the ultron or gaurdians was thinking one of those but the whole kree and skrull battle is why old neck is gone. I see there mixing the comic a bit but the base line story is there, not sure if the invasion will play out in the T.V. show or in a movie. I think she will develop strength, a healing factor and possible shape shift to change here features so she can look like other people. Thats my guess
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Mar 12, 2014
This is my theory

captain mar-vell came to earth undercover to find skrulls. He fell in love and got the woman pregnant with soon to be Skye. Later on shield finds him and he tells them of the kree vs skrull war and specifically about skrulls. With his help they find some and get into battle, they soon learn the skrulls are setting up an invasion. mar-vell is injured and is on the brink of death, he tells them of the woman and the unborn child and ask for their protection in fear of the skrulls finding out the baby is a kree hybrid they will kill it. Later on shield run test on mar-vell's body to better understand kree finding out its powerful and could be key to the baby's life. The skrull find out and try to kill the baby thinking she's a threat to the skrull empire, the Skye is born but the mother dies and I guess a little later on the story from the agent who protected Skye takes place. I think the clairvoyant is the skrull and that's the reason why they told Quinn to kill Skye and the reason why they want to find out what happen to coulson. I also think it's all kept a secret because of the same reason nick fury kept the secret invasion a secret. So in the end I think Skye is ms. Marvel and the blue guy is mar-vell and the clairvoyant is the skrulls.
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Mar 12, 2014
I agree with you on most of your points. I also think Skye is going to become Ms. Marvel and I find it really interesting. But that would raise a question: if she gets superpowers, why didn´t Carson? The only explanation is the one you gave yourself: she is from an alien descent.

I was really disappointed with the series until five episodes ago. Then I thought it got momentum and I am really liking a lot. I hope the series keep building around Marvel´s mythology, not always touching it but usually refering to it and keeping us guessing.
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Mar 11, 2014
I really like this show and the characters except skye. She is so annoying and seems to be only out for herself. I feel like the writers are trying to make her the star of the show but to me she is the only character I could live without. I would love this show if that character wasn't in it.
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Mar 10, 2014
i thought may's reaction was an interesting one cuz she's always so cold towards skye but she actually cares about her
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Mar 10, 2014
At first i thought the alien in the tube could be a frost giant because of its size, but the face wasn't quite right, neither does it look like a chitauri, but it actually looks pretty similar to The Engineer from the movie Prometheus.
As for the line "we're her family" i agree it is a bit too soon to call themselves that, but than again Skye doesn't have any other family members as far as we know.
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Mar 09, 2014
Since Austen Powers I can't watch something like this and not think of the henchman :-) Is killing two guards or possibly SHIELD AGENTS to only possibly save Skye's life a morally 'good guy' decision? Coulson said the same drug could save the guard but then he left them both there to be covered by exploded mountain perhaps dead or perhaps to die slowly, way to go Coulson, keep burning Jet fuel and killing people to serve your own self important interests.

Speaking of family, Skye is probably the worst choice for the team member in jeapordy I mean isn't the Rising Tide her family? Maybe the choice of a character who wasn't a double agent would of served the writers and the clairvoyant's purposes more successfully, at least Skye's tech knowledge would have solved the bomb problem and many others far more quickly and left something for the clairvoyant to explore other than rubble.

Anyway Paxton was cool as always, next episode we got Sif, just forget all the inconsistencies, jet to a new situation and of course the show resets, decent childrens television show given more attention than it deserves at the moment.


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Mar 09, 2014
I forgot to mention, I believe Coulson was so shocked because he saw an intelligent creature kept alive in what has to be horrific conditions, and being milked like a lab rat, just for the healing factor in his blood. Add to that fact that Coulson is alive only because of that fact it shook him down to his core.

I also believe that Coulson might've recognized what the creature is and is worried about what effect that will have on Skye and what it already might be doing to him.
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Mar 09, 2014
I liked this episode, though not as much the last one. I wish there had not been that huge break between the two episodes, the momentum would've continued instead of having to start up again.

Like some people have already mentioned, Skye's family is SHIELD, and the team has been living and working together non-stop, with their lives constantly on the line for months now, of course they're close.

Was Ward even in this episode? He's never been so totally superfluous before. If he and that other Agent (who's name I can't even remember) hadn't fought, I don't think I would've noticed him at all. But I loved May beating Quinn to a bloody pulp. I'm just bummed that Coulson stopped it, he should've let Ward continue, then he might've been slightly memorable.

I'll give the whole "well hidden in a freakin' mountain, super-secret base" only needing two guards, but they were totally inept. I don't know, maybe the security system is really good, and maybe Fitz is way better, but I can't believe they couldn't even wing anyone with that many bullets flying.
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Mar 09, 2014
for the most part the ep was ok. I too would've preferred they stay around longer to explore the place before it was blown up. I agree with the stuff about how despite how much 'what would skye do' stuff, they do seem to cheapen her role with the other options. I guess she's convenient, but not totally necessary (as cold as it sounds). Paxton's character is at least more interesting than agent hand and i'd love to see him return. Next week's ep seems interesting. At least finally Lady sif can get her own screen time than to be a background character. catfight anyone? lol.
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Mar 09, 2014
Skye dying was the event that made them finally all agree they were a family. You also forgot what Skye said in episode 12, that her whole life, she thought she wasn't wanted and how she thought all of those foster families didn't want her but realizing that it was S.H.I.E.L.D. who was protecting her all of those years gave her a sense of hope and she finally stopped looking for her family because she realized she was already with them, so the family bit was already explained 2 eps prior. Time spent really has no bearing when your life is constantly being put in danger and you rely on people around you to walk away from it. Since most of us have no clue about how that must feel, we cannot relate and just have to accept it at face value. This story as we found out was not about Skye (as gathered by the "previously on shield" clips before the episode) but a puzzle piece to a bigger picture. I personally do not like this brand of storytelling where the episodes build on one another because stateside, an entire season of 18 - 30 episodes will only water down the experience but sometimes, you have to ignore the fluff and take the good bits out on your own and just be entertained. Rationalising fiction writing is an exercise in futility when at any moment a Deus Ex Machina will rear its ugly head (and S.H.I.E.L.D. has plenty of them). On the whole, this episode did feel a bit rushed and we were led to believe a big secret (details of Coulson's operation) really wasn't a really well kept one given the minimal security and half of a Kree in stasis just floating there. However, I rather liked the episode and wouldn't change it,
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Mar 08, 2014
I did NOT find this episode disappointing. Of course we knew Skye was not going to die but as we know this was really all about Coulson's storyline.
The reveals in this episode just add to the interest. Answeres led to more questions... What was that facility? Who was running it? Who was hooked up with tubes at the end of the episode?
I also really like Paxton's character but not his sidekick.
Unlike the writer I think the show has worked well without mimicking Marvel's comic book . As a long term comic book fan I just had to change my expectations.
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Mar 08, 2014
It just kind of feels "wrong" for our heroes. They are essentially DRAINING his/her body while in stasis instead of fixing him or allowing him to die. I don't care if what they syphon out is medicine for mortal human wounds. THAT IS AWFUL!
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Mar 09, 2014
I believe that's why Coulson was so shocked and didn't want the stuff given to Skye. He also might've recognized wha the alien was and suspects what the blood could do to her, and maybe have already done to him.
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Mar 09, 2014
it's part of the gray area stuff. Sure it is morally horrible, but sometimes the ends justifies the means. Being it was or looked like an alien, maybe it was already dead (or so they think) and they figured to just drain it's 'fluids' if it was able to regenerate/heal people. I hope they tell us what it was at least towards the end of the season unless they intend to save it for after guardians of the galaxy is in theaters. I think it could be a kree (blue humanoid alien).
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Mar 08, 2014
@Kaitlin:
I think you missed the context of the "We are her family" line. Coulson knows more about Sky than Sky herself. She doesn't have any family that we know of.
So when Coulson said "We are her family" he simply meant there isn't anyone else. Also you must get that if you spend 24x7 with a group of people and face life and death situations, you get closer to each other.

Also you mention May's reaction was out of character. I don't agree. In the earlier episodes it was already clear Sky was starting to grow in May eventhough May was hiding it from everybody.

@anyone:
I think this was a good episode. We finally learned more about Coulson when he was brought back from the death. I always figured it had to be something alien since even in the world of SHIELD it would not be possible by human hand.
Now we also have a new story line, as mentioned in the article. What will the effect be on Sky. Will she get powers, will she start to behave strangely as the alien stuff takes over her mind. (Coulson may also have been healed by the alien stuff, but we don't know what happened after they injected him. Maybe they gave him something else too to prevent him changing into an alien).
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Mar 08, 2014
I really hope they don't go the Kree way with this one because the could really fuck things up, there are some rumors that Skye could be Ms. Marvel but that would just be completely insane starting with the fact that not many people like her character (Skye not Ms. Marvel), personally I've grown to like her but she still doesn't quite convince me. If they did decided take the Kree road they could just as easily give her some sort of powers without bringing up the whole Ms. Marvel situation to instead tease it.

I think the Ms. Marvel character could be teased in the show but introduced in a movie, preferably with the Carol Danvers persona.
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Mar 08, 2014
It was great one, but how is the blue half man at T.A.H.I.T.I.????
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Mar 08, 2014
//or if the writers have simply come to understand that many viewers aren't happy with a comic book series that doesn't include anyone with superhuman powers//

So. Much. This.
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Mar 07, 2014
The main thing that really bugged me was the timer at the end. The exploration of the facility should've felt creepy and suspenseful; instead, it just felt rushed and Coulson slowly creeping through rooms while there's 4 minutes left on the timer was ridiculous. If the facility really needed to be destroyed, they could've at least given the timer half an hour - or have them discover it right at the end when the episode had shown us what it needed to anyway.
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Mar 07, 2014
I believe ABC is hurting their shows. By taking these long breaks. They r just too long and u lose interest.
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Mar 09, 2014
Not just abc, all the networks are guilty of this. I mean sure there's march madness and the olympics as reasons for long breaks (not many are gonna want to lose viewers to big sports stuff), but breaks every other week is very annoying and i'd rather they do 1 solid month of new shows and take a month break than having this every other week sort of thing.
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Mar 07, 2014
they probably didn't shoot enough episodes to go through the fall season. I'm not sure how many episodes were ordered but with 52 weeks in a year but they only shoot at most 22 episodes a year. Either they start popular shows in the spring for continuous viewing or they have gaps to spread out the episodes from about September to about May. In away Coulson is right, the team is her family Her mother and father were SHIELD agents protecting baby Skye, both maybe dead. No information on other relatives. She has friends in Rising Tide. Legally she has no next of kin.
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Mar 08, 2014
Her mother and father were not SHIELD agents. She was and 084 retrieved by a SHIELD team, and placed in foster care when the agents were all being assassinated. We don't know yet who her parents are...just speculation.
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Mar 07, 2014
I agree, they've only known each other for months, but they've shared adventures and have to rely on each other, plus they live together. That's enough to make them feel like family. It was a pretty good episode IMO.
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Mar 07, 2014
I just managed to watch this. I honestly didn't think anything of the guy in the pod. Then I started thinking, well, apparently I have to watch Thor: Dark World this weekend because I have no idea who this Lorelei person is. Then I started thinking, was this guy one of the frost giants? Like that Loki could be normal person size.. Then I thought, I have to watch Thor: Dark World this weekend.

I do think the family thing was kind of more to say, well, she doesn't actually have any in a more tactful fashion. I do agree all of this was like at least season 2 stuff. I mean, I get May's reaction (that she cares for Skye more that she lets on) and I agree with your stance on Fitz. I even get Simmons' that her primary interest was the medical aspect but that she and Skye are becoming friends. But yeah, a couple more episodes where Skye pretended to be May or tried to emulate her on a mission or where Simmons and Skye just got to be girlfriends to the annoyance of Ward or Fitz. Heck, maybe after the rest of the team learned about Skye's 084 status, it might have created enough tension.
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Mar 07, 2014
Lorelai's Thor's sidekick in Asgard. But, guess if you want to go in real deep you'd have to read the comics!
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Mar 08, 2014
Lady Sith is THor's sidekick. We have not seen Lorelai yet in any of the movies...just comic books. She is the younger sister of the Enchantress...though SHIELD may change it up and portray her as the Enchantress, because she does have some of the same powers.
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Mar 07, 2014
I thought that was Lady Sith who comes after Lorelei.
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Mar 07, 2014
Lorelei is not in Dark World, so I doubt you would miss any kind of back-story to the next episode. However, it's worth watching anyway.
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Mar 07, 2014
Frost Giants do not have ears. This dude does. Also his design matches to that of Ronan The Accuser in the upcoming Guardians of The Galaxy, so it has to be Kree.

AS for Skye:
- Ward does not let ANY people near him and has been shown to be completely inept socially. In Skye he sees who he was before as well as his childhood problems.
- May CAN'T lose more people. She might seem calm all the time but as the staff episode has shown - there's a LOT of fury boiling beyond the surface. Its only natural that idea of losing yet another team member is unbearable and enough to bring her over the edge.
- Coulson came to relate to Skye A LOT considering both of their lives have been affected by SHIELD secrets and shennanigans. Also he feels responsible for putting her into this mess AND because of the fact that Clairvoyant made her a victim purely because of him.
- Fitz is completely awkward socially and he and Simmons connect to Skye because they finally have someone "greener" than them. THere's also quite well established crush thing.
- For Simmons, Skye is the opposite and the show has shown Skye to have quite a huge effect on her.

Every team member has been established to have a valid bond towards being furious about her state of being.
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Mar 07, 2014
Skye fills out weakness in software manipulation. With compuer hacking, she can get information that Fitz might not be able to using conventional methods. Fitz took a page out of Skye's playbook to get classified information from SHIELD document storage.
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Mar 07, 2014
About them being a family, I took it more to be that as Skye doesn't have one they were there for her.
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Mar 07, 2014
Here is proof that blue alien is a KREE.

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Mar 07, 2014
Another muddled episode of Shield if this show doesn't improve I stop watching , problems are :
Coulson interesting character but flawed
Family tag line please they only know each other a few months
Blue guy in the tank harvesting like a lab rat
May best character before this now reversed by to type like handsome!
Shield is not daring enough
One blinding light is that when it not about the characters issues like next weeks episode its interesting , but the problem is that it is too safe ,not interesting enough for adults and to complicated for kids!

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Mar 07, 2014
So, Coulson and co. dropped a mountain on an alien being that, though was seriously injured and sedated, has the ability to heal/regenerate and whose pod was most likely destroyed in the process. Anybody else think this might end up coming back to bite them (and the world itself) in the ass?
They really leaving a trail of potential/future chaos in their wake, these agents!
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Mar 07, 2014
It's not like it was intentional - if they could've stopped the place from blowing up, I'm sure they would have.
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Mar 07, 2014
Well, SHIELD was ready to nuke New York to stop a few aliens :P Its common element of the marvelverse that their reactions can be...disproportionate.

And considering this story arc is called the Uprising and leads to The Winter Soldier which shows Shield as pretty much badguys, its quite sure that there will be consequences.
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Mar 07, 2014
Maybe the Clairvoyant it's Destiny (Irene Adler) from the second Brotherhood of evil mutants and Mystique's former lover....
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Mar 07, 2014
I have had a job where you live, work and spend all your time together and I can safely say that after a few months they felt like my family. And a lot of them still are. So I didn't think that them being like family after only a few months was a stretch. Loved Bill Paxton. My first thought on the blue guy was that he was maybe one of the aleins that invaded during the Avengers and that maybe Skye is actually an Asguard or alien or something.
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Mar 07, 2014
I really like what the show is doing: although Kaitlin didn't mention this, SHIELD is starting a miniseries type event, called SHIELD: Uprising. I think up until now, the show has been world building and now that the rules and the characters have been established, it can finally become the show it was intended and expected to be.
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Mar 07, 2014
I was wondering what that SHIELD: Uprising bit was at the end!
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Mar 07, 2014
Its a comic book tradition, actually - the so called "event story arcs" - "The Civil War", "Annihilation", etc, usually with multiple works adding that into the title.

Once the other marvel shows start running on Netflix, you can bet that all the shows will get the same subtitle at once when next story-event happens next season ;]
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Mar 06, 2014
Oh I hope they have heard the voices and given Skye some kind of superpower! The Blue fellow was quite creepy. I thought he would be related to Skye somehow.
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Mar 06, 2014
Oh, and I vote for Flower-dress woman for the Clairvoyant. Awfully perceptive and always seems Johnny-on-the-spot in critical situations.

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Mar 06, 2014
Point: Coulson was stabb3d through the heart. The wound was small enough so that he could fire his weapon - and snark - before he died.

What "massive trauma" did he experience that it took so many operations that caused so much agony? Repair the heart should't have taken more than a few seconds - Skye had lost her spleen, kidneys, parts of her liver, and popped right up after her injection. Heart heart and related blood vessels were probably okay enough for a patch job before she got on the plan, else she'd be dead.

Interesting thing about "death". Evidence shows that "dying" isn't what we think it is. People have had heart failure and stopped breathing - for an hour or so and been brought back - if their body temperature is lowered slightly. The real danger is the sudden flow of oxygen to the brain when breathing restarts - the oxygen triggers the "death cycle" of brain cells. As long as the brain cells don't deteriorate, a person is not yet dead. If the body can be restored, the brain can be brought back online, slowly.

Coulson could have been kept on ice until his heart and related tissue had been regenerated, and then his brain restarted with increasing levels of O2. But I don't see what the "trauma" was. Is this just science-less science fiction writing, or is there more?



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Mar 06, 2014
Skye = Ms Marvel, seems clear enough.
Why did Coulson wants to keep Billionaire on plane? At the cost of losing his command? Makes no sense.
The team murdered at least one guard at a secret installation, and left the other wounded to be crushed under millions of pounds of mountain. They had plenty of time to take them to their plane. Hell, they could have injected them to cure their wounds. What does SHIELD think of their murderous assault? They have plenty of non-lethal weapons and take-outers on that plane.
Guards don't alert anyone they are under attack?
Secret installations with guards inside have deadbolts on the inside of their massive steel doors. No card-reader is going to override that. They broke into the place like it was a Walgreens. GLASS WALLS?
Agents die all the time. SHIELD agents understand that. You don;t break into secret facilities 'cause your pet hacker got herself shot (for no real reason!).
Skye is Coulson's daughter. He's far too emotional about her.
Observations: writers have no combat experience. I don't see how they have even READ about combat experience. Their characters wear the Stupid Hat every time they need a plot development. It's jarring.
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Mar 07, 2014
Coulson essentially said he wanted to keep Billionaire on plane because if Skye had died, Coulson would have killed him.
The second guard died before they could Finish questioning him, and I don't think they were willing to risk the side affects of the serum on a stranger - plus they had only one dose.
its a superhero show. Don't expect realism.
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Mar 06, 2014
One thing everyone seems to be missing about the "We're her family" line: it didn't have to be seen as gushy and emotional - it was literally true. SHIELD is Skye's family.
I think the blue guy is Garbha-Hsien, an immortal whose blood can heal dead tissue.
And I wouldn't be surprised, given Joss Whedon's past, if Skye ended up being the Clairvoyant.
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Mar 07, 2014
I'm going to say that it's unlikely to be Garbha-Hsien, mostly because he's mostly tied into the X-Men mythology and Marvel don't have the rights to them. Given there is an Age of Apocalypse movie in the works, the studio that owns the X-Men rights will probably seek strongly to keep him, as he may feature in the back-story.
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Mar 07, 2014
X men is from the Marvel universe as far as who owns the rights I have no idea
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Mar 06, 2014
Or one of Skye's parents
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Mar 06, 2014
So we have someone who can seemingly see everything and Skye may have an undisclosed power? I think they're going to be more closely related than they seem.
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Mar 06, 2014
Several weeks off definitely hurt this episode. Had the two episodes been able to air back to back, I think it would have seemed even stronger. I do agree though that it wasn't a terrible episode. It's kind of impossible to be terrible when Bill Paxton is involved. :)

I don't know it's necessarily too early for the team to be referring to themselves as a family. Would I have liked to see some more development from some of the characters? Sure. But we saw those same family dynamics this early on in Buffy (especially the fatherly relationship with Buffy and Giles). Yeah, it was developed a lot more in the subsequent seasons, but it was there, so I can definitely see it.

The show is definitely moving in the right direction and I'm looking forward to seeing where we go from here and answering some questions (I need at least one show I watch to do that from time to time).
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Mar 06, 2014
The spam is getting ridiculous, please do something TV.com!
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Mar 06, 2014
"BILL!!! What's up buddy? Long time no see. How you been?"

So, when the fellas were down in the T.I.H.I.T.I. (you're right, that is a pain in the ass to type) and the countown timer was getting low, was I the only person who was hoping for...?
Cause THAT would have been awesome!

What else was awesome...? Agent Triplett crushing on Simmons. And Bill Paxton hinting that the team will be seeing more of them in the future means MORE Bill Paxton and MORE Tripmons. Simmlett? Who cares, I like it!

One more awesome thing...Dr. Manhattan's doppelganger in the tube. I didn't see that coming, but it was cool.

EVERYTHING else about the episode...meh.
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Mar 10, 2014
Ripley: How long after we're declared overdue can we expect a rescue?
Hicks: [pause] Seventeen days.
Hudson: Seventeen *days?* Hey man, I don't wanna rain on your parade, but we're not gonna last seventeen *hours!* Those things are gonna come in here just like they did before. And they're gonna come in here...
Ripley: Hudson!
Hudson: ...and they're gonna come in here AND THEY'RE GONNA GET US!
Ripley: Hudson! This little girl survived longer than that with no weapons and no training.
[to Newt]
Ripley: Right?
[Newt apes a salute]
Hudson: Why don't you put her in charge?
Ripley: You better just start dealing with it, Hudson! Listen to me! Hudson, just deal with it, because we need you and I'm sick of your bullshit.
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Mar 06, 2014
Well, is it too much to think that:

1. It was not being injected, but rather removed?

OR

2. GH: Growth Hormone. Or, in the Marvel Universe, MGH (Mutant Growth Hormone). It was developed by Henry McCoy (same stuff he injected in himself and he became The Beast).

Or, if thinking of Earth 616, the blue guy is probably Geheneris HalaSon Mahr Vehl (hence GH?)

Would have loved the blue guy to be Kang, but it wouldn't make sense ;)

Some say that the Clarvoyant is Ultron, but what about the next Avengers movie, which is about Ultron? Doubt they would both be fighting the same person/entity. Maybe he is Supreme Intelligence.



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Mar 06, 2014
Still going with this: M.O.D.O.C.
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Mar 07, 2014
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Mar 06, 2014
Sorry if somebody had say it before here but did anyone notice the S.H.I.E.L.D. logo changing into Captain America's shield at the end of the next week preview? Could it be that he will be appearing on one of the episodes too? I hope so! I would be awesome!
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Mar 06, 2014
It´s a definite connection between the movie and the TV show. This show blew open so many things. Like, where is Nick Fury? Who is the Clairvoyant? What does GH stand for? (I like Growth Hormone as rodrigo_prazeres said.) Is Skye an alien? Why is the sky blue? ;)
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Mar 06, 2014
What about the "Uprising" subtitle ?
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Mar 06, 2014
Uprising ... the word in essence means revolution. exiting episodes ahead.
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Mar 07, 2014
The Uprising is the "story event" that supposedly will last till thee end of the seaoson, building up and leading to The Winter Soldier(hence the shield flashing there)
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Mar 06, 2014
So let's see if I get it: the two main theories we are considering here about Skye are:

a) Skye is an Inhuman (race created by Kree race) and her powers were latent. GH-325 shot (Kree blood) will awake her Inhuman powers.

b) Skye is human, alien or self-alien (the latter two could explain why she was an 084) and with this Kree blood shot she will become Ms. Marvel (kind of how Carol Danvers become Ms. Marvel on the comic books).

I'm not a Marvel universe's expert so can anyone tell me if I got it right? :)
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Mar 07, 2014
Mostly correct.

Both are also validated by the fact that Kree are the eternal enemy of the Skrulls(Chitauri from Avengers being a "subrace" of that).

The second is less possible since Miss Marvel is arguably quite big profile character(since Miss Marvel is pretty much the equivalent of DC's Wonder Woman in terms of importance) so they would not most likely be introducing her in a tv show.
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Mar 07, 2014
I would have to argue your point for one reason and one reason only.

The unexplored area of female heroins.

Think, just for a second, how many female heroes other than those of XMEN has the comic section of filmmakers actually introduced, yes there is my favorite Sif and Black Widow, but other than that not many. How can Marvel know if a female hero will be received well by their audience? Introduce a well known female superhero on AOS. I can tell you right now I DO NOT want Skye as Ms.Marvel Carol Danvers is and will always be Ms.Marvel who I like much better than Wonder Woman. Introduce Skye as another heroine or make up one but do not under any circumstances make her Ms.Marvel I do not believe she could work as Ms.Marvel. But I am also holding out that Yvonne Strahovski will be named Ms.Marvel.
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Mar 06, 2014
Since I´m commenting on this ... what boggles my mind are the initials G.H. It can´t be Guest House ... that would be silly to put the initials of the whole place on that specific container. So, G. H. Anyone?
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Mar 08, 2014
Growth Hormone
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Mar 06, 2014
Could someone please explain to me the meaning of Sky being an 0-8-4?
Is she a human/alien hybrid?

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Mar 07, 2014
No one really knows. An entire village was destroyed protecting her then shield agents. 084 means she's dangerous
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Mar 06, 2014

T.A.H.I.T.I. -- Thought and Human Intelligence Transmittance Initiative (or Interface).

Saw this somewhere. Possible?
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