Minority Report Series Premiere Review: A Future With Problems and Promise

Minority Report S01E01: "Pilot"


Fox should have seen this coming. Ha ha, already a pre-cog joke in the first sentence. Yeesh. The idea for a Minority Report series isn't a bad one, especially considering how great the 2002 movie was and how cool Tom Cruise looked swiping at thin air to control the movie's gratuitous abundance of gizmos. But Fox's television sequel came out clunky in its pilot, looking more like a work in progress cut to pieces by studio notes than a finished product fit for fall consumption. And that's probably because the pilot was reworked a few times after it was filmed last spring as kinks were ironed out for primetime (Stark Sands was originally set to play both Dash and Arthur, and Arthur's involvement in the original pilot was minimal, for example).

But I'm getting ahead of myself! This Foxified version of Minority Report is a sequel to the film (and the Philip K. Dick short story upon which it was based) and is set in 2065, 11 years after the events of Mr. Cruise's wild ride, and adjusts the focus to the Precogs—a trio of genetically mutated humans with psychic powers to see crimes before they happened—who were cast off to live a life of isolation after the Precrime program they were critical to was abolished at the end of the flick. In the show, Dash (Sands) snuck out of his island prison and back to Washington, D.C. to attempt to stop the murders he was seeing in his head, despite the danger of being discovered as a Precog and experimented on, imprisoned, and whatnot. In the nation's capital, he teamed up with Detective Lara Vega (Meagan Good, very pretty) and they agreed that his power was pretty neat so they should use it to stop crimes, but they should also be quiet about it so no one got in trouble. Except MURDERERS!  

This set up a very proceduraly (make it a word already, Mr. Webster) opener in which Dash saw the mayor's wife vomiting up her insides at a rally the mayor was holding the next day. Leads took them on a step-quest for clues that led them to a steel mill or some place that specialized in falling steel beams for some reason (no one wore hard hats and I was majorly nervous), a hospital for mentally broken dumb-dumbs who got busted for committing crimes they hadn't committed yet, and rooftops covered in pigeon shit. You know how these network procedurals go, the good guys win and the bad guys go to hell. And that's what happened. Dash and Vega: 1, asshole murderers who harbored old grudges: 0.

What is worth talking about was how the rest shaped up and what this meant for Minority Report as a show that we might watch on a weekly basis. Like I said way up top, the pilot was clunky and there were a lot of things I didn't love about it, but there is a lot of potential for the show if it just cleans some stuff up. The supposed main theme of Minority Report: The TV Show (and Minority Report: The Motion Picture) is how we're not locked into predestination because of free will and all that and whether locking people up for things they haven't even done yet is a legitimate move for society or towing the line of Draconian rule. And the pilot mostly pushed that aside in favor of an open-and-shut case, where the murder Dash saw was definitely going to happen. And by Dash and Vega stopping the murder attempt in the middle of it being committed it lost all of the philosophy behind the controversial use of Precogs in stopping crimes. Yes, the sample size is small, but in the two cases we saw in the pilot, both murderers in Dash's visions became murderers (or attempted murderers), removing any of the spice that came with Precogs determining who is (will be) guilty and who is (will be) innocent. 

If Minority Report is going to move beyond being Medium: 2065, it will have to embrace the muddiness of predetermination and whether or not we can choose to change our futures. The pilot simply said, "Murderers are murderers," and was another case of a mismatched opposite-sex team investigating/solving/preventing crimes. I get the pressures of being as mainstream and conventional as possible in a pilot in order to bag as big an audience as possible, but hopefully that's all this was. The straightforwardness could—and should—change in the future as Minority Report embraces what made the movie so special (remember, Tom Cruise's character was supposedly going to murder someone and the whole time we were all like, "OMG is he really going to kill that dude?), but for its first hour, things felt more like, "Hey, let's make a regular cop show out of that Minority Report movie." That's fine, but is it special? Not really. 

Perhaps it was that need to stick with traditional storytelling that made Minority Report feel a need to bombard us with future tech. I mean yowza! There was a lot of gesture-based transparent computer screens, Crime Scene Simulator contact lenses, and selfie drones that doubled as hideous bracelets. This world was like a Sharper Image catalog in moving picture form. And that swipe-able tour guide brochure that came standard on a bus window? Forget it, I am not touching anything on public transportation except the hand sanitizer dispenser. That window thingy must be a petri dish of communicable disease. While all these future gizmos were somewhat cool in coloring the universe of Minority Report, at some point I was like, "Okay enough," because the pilot tried so darned hard to stick them in our faces instead of making them integral to the show. In fact, does Minority Report even need to take place in the future? Aside from continuity with the film, probably not.


As for the characters, there's more work needed. Dash was the bravest coward there ever was. He's constantly terrified, but he's also willing to jump into the middle of danger and confront armed murderers? And because he grew up in a Precog "milk bath," he's totally inept in social situations (when it's convenient for laughs). His abilities were also pick-and-choosey, working in some moments to anticipate menial things like incoming bird poop but not everything that happened, like when Vega anticipated him stalking her. With this idea, the show can get away with almost anything just by writing in "Dash saw it coming" whenever it wants to. After one hour, Dash is more vapor than flesh-and-blood, a mish-mash of different abilities and personality traits, but not anyone I really know. Still, he's more interesting than Good's Vega, who is your typical off-the-shelf Hot Cop Whose Dad Died, only she's REALLY hot. If you're going to put a twist on that character type, I suppose that's the way to do it. Elsewhere, Wilmer Valderrama is absolutely horrible as Good's sex-offending (probably) smarmy boss Will Blake who steals Good's work and looks at her like she's ice cream and it's 110 degrees outside. Arthur (Nick Zano), Dash's Precog brother, is equally horny macho-ness and made his own inappropriate stares and comments toward Vega. Obviously, both of these douchenozzles were used sparingly in the pilot so it could focus on Dash and Vega, but so far, not a good start for these two bro-dudes. 

Yet I still look at Minority Report and think this could work with some tweaks. There's some decent serialization being set up here with Arthur and Agatha (the twin's older sister) out there somewhere, the established controversy with Precogs, Mayor Peter Van Eyck's Big Brother-ish Hawkeye program in the works, and what appeared to be a greater conspiracy underneath (there had to be a reason that Adrandi warned Vega she had no idea what she was getting herself into), but in order to get to that, we'll no doubt have to sit through some cookie-cutter procedural episodes. But if those can mine the ideas of destiny versus free will, we could be onto something here. 

[UPDATE] The episode that Fox aired (the episode you most likely watched) added on an ending that wasn't in the advanced screener that Fox sent out for review. In it, Arthur and Agatha met in person and talked about a vision Agatha had of them being taken again. This would definitely point to some more serialized stuff coming down the line, which is a good sign. But the new scene didn't really add anything we didn't already expect.



POSTCOGS


– Okay, so the opening exposition said that the Precog kids were brain-dead children of drug addicts. Agatha is obviously older, so did they all come out brain dead? Did the druggies have a brain dead kid and then have more kids? 

– Dash sometimes sees things a few hours ahead of time and sometimes days ahead of time? Can any ability be more convenient for a TV writer? 

– It's never established in the show WHY the Precrime program was dismantled, which is pretty lame. But if you need a catch up from the movie, I believe it was abolished because its trustworthiness came into doubt after Precogs began seeing different things. This is barely touched on in the show, but should have been given more of an explanation. 

– So wait a second, the mayor used to head the PreCrime program, and now he's calling it dumb stuff that relies on the visions of genetic freaks? Typical politician, right?

– Why does Hollywood imagine the future having people with big smears of makeup on their faces? Should I invest in makeup futures?

– NO SORRY PEOPLE ARE NOT STILL SAYING "PHOTOBOMB" IN 2065 AND IF THEY ARE KILL ME NOW.

– Some try-hard gags in here, including The Simpsons' 75th season and calling Iggy Azalea classical music. The constant reminder that we're in the future with contemporary pop-culture references might be one of the worst parts of the show. Stop it.

– The Washington Redskins were finally renamed! But Washington Redclouds? Hmmm. 


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Sep 29, 2015
im so confused!!!! i watched it online because i dont live in the US.... they didn't show nick zano at all in the ep i watched!!!!! in the ep i watched, dash didn't know where his twin brother was, he just disappeared one day. the pilot ended with dash receiving a call from his brother asking for help, but we couldn't see his face because he was all blurred out or something. and then bam credits. i thought it was awesome!

then cut to today, i start loading ep 2, it says "previously on MR.... and it shows all this bunch of scenes that aren't in the pilot?! nick zano is there and then he's having a conversation with the sister and she's saying they shouldn't tell dash yet about something (???????) until they know what role he plays (?????????). i read there were 2 pilots or something???? are they airing the eps out of order?!?! that's another thought that crossed my mind. they did that with almost human too and it fucked up the consistency a bit sometimes. i still miss that show. it was SO good. but im happy michael ealy bounced back quick with the following and now secrets and lies and his movie the perfect guy etc.

anyway. im confused. if anybody has the link for the other pilot or something please send it to me so i can watch it because im so so lost! dont know wtf is going on. the show will probably be cancelled anyway, i read the numbers and totally tanked :/ and knowing fox they'll pull it out bc they always fuck everything up! shame. i liked the pilot, it had potential! but yeah confused, someone enlighten me, please!
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Sep 29, 2015
I had the same problem, and what happened is that they aired a totally different pilot. Rewatch the pilot because I did, and the second episode makes ten times more sense. They didn't go out of order they just aired a different pilot than what was online. Hope this helps because it helped me.
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Sep 30, 2015
but i dont want to rewatch the pilot, i want to watch the pilot they aired, so that when i watch ep 2 it makes sense! i havent watched it still bc im afraid i would spoil myself. what good would it be to watch ep 2 without having the consistency of what happened in the actual ep they aired? like the ep i watched was useless then. gahhh i hate this
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Sep 29, 2015
Cheers for that. Is it any better though?
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Sep 29, 2015
I just skimmed through the "new" pilot for the parts with his brother and new ending with his sister. As best I could tell, the rest in 95% the same.

The added scenes, to wit explain (spoilers):
1) Dash doesn't get along with his brother
2) His dapper brother uses his fact-discovering power now to make money hand over fist
3) His brother doesn't help Dash for free, but that's left to be fully explained
4) As Dash and the lady cop are leaving bro's office, he makes a pass at lady cop; when she walks away he half-jokes "that's OK, I already know your number."
5) His sister, who lives way out in the countryside, thinks they might all get kidnapped at some future date by someone who was involved in Pre-Crime, but tells the brother not to tell Dash yet.

So basically, they added an arc....
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Sep 30, 2015
okaaay sooo nvm........ turns out the ep i watched on tv earlier was ep 2????? but they aired it as if it were the pilot, that's why it makes no sense to a first time watcher and they walk about things we haven't seen like dash killing a man.

in the pilot i watched online, it was a case about a girl trying to kill the wife of some politician or whatever with some dove or something. is that the same one that aired as pilot in the US? i mean i know they aired a different one but idk if, besides the scenes im not familiar with, the case itself was different altogether too. jesus this is too confusing :/

what ep did they air as ep #2? was it about some girl in a bar that was going to be stabbed?
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Sep 30, 2015
ok so i got lucky and i was watching tv today and skimming through the channels, i noticed fox was about to air the ep. i noticed it started differently than the one i'd streamed online last week, so i figured it was the same one that had aired in the US.

it was okay, but it was confusing. i think i liked the one i liked online better. at least i understood the scenes i hadn't understood that i mentioned before.... but the scene you mention, about not telling dash... that wasn't in the ep :/ so idk why some scenes weren't there... like #4 i dont recall that being in the ep either. it's so fucking weird and confusing. why would they have 2 pilots?! fucking dumb. i'll go watch the second ep now and see if i can make a bit more sense now that i've watched both pilots. i'll get back to you guys haha
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Sep 29, 2015
The show is on Fox. They're notorious for playing tv shows out of order.

Should be one of the first clues that this show is not long for this world as they are already trying to manipulate the order for a better result and by playing what they feel are the stronger episodes, even if it breaks the storytelling.
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Sep 30, 2015
i knowwww im so disappointed because i really like it but idont want to invest in a show that wont last. my heart's been broken too many times haha :( im torn. thanks for your input, guys!
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Sep 29, 2015
See post immediately above about how the broadcast pilot differs from the leaked version from a few months ago. I had the exact same thought as you did at first though.
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Sep 28, 2015
I figure I could comments on Rosewood and Minority Report simultaneously because I'm watching both shows for the same reason and basically have the same problem with both shows.

First, the good. Morris Chestnut and Megan Good. Putting aside my general life motto that anybody that good looking cannot be trusted, we have two black actors in clearly defined lead roles on major networks. Similar to Scandal, Sleepy Hollow, How to Get Away with Murder, etc. I'm going to watch these shows and give them more than every opportunity and even if they're not very good, I'm still likely to stick with them.

Now, the bad. The premise for both are painfully unoriginal. While clearly not as distractingly attractive, if I'm going to watch a show about a medical examiner, it had better star Jack Klugman or Jill Hennessy. And no, Rosie's medical history isn't enough of a twist to make this concept original.

One of the themes more overdone than the intrusive medical examiner working with the police is the "psychic" working with the police. Made that much worse because it ruins what was a pretty solid movie. Minority Report is basically iZombie that takes itself FAR too seriously. That Fox kept this title away from Larry Wilmore's new show doesn't help either.

Yes, both shows are formulaic and uninspired, but for no other reason than to support Chestnut and Good, I'll keep watching.
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Sep 28, 2015
– "Okay, so the opening exposition said that the Precog kids were brain-dead children of drug addicts. Agatha is obviously older, so did they all come out brain dead? Did the druggies have a brain dead kid and then have more kids?"


A dirty street precursor to the future-drug 'Flare' left swathes of addicts debilitated and unable to care for their nigh-braindead children. A programme was established to help cure these children, of which there were many. The cure effectively enabled them to function as people but left them plagued with delusions and hallucinations. The lead scientist working to cure the kids, Dr. Iris Hineman, created the first technology to see what the kids were seeing, to help them make sense of their visions. When it became apparent to the staff that the murders they were seeing were actually happening - and that they were seeing them *before* they happened, a member of the department of justice, Lamar Burgess, became interested and ultimately founded the PreCrime programme, claiming the three most talented children as state property and forcing them into abject slavery as part of the PreCrime machine...


– "It's never established in the show WHY the Precrime program was dismantled, which is pretty lame. But if you need a catch up from the movie, I believe it was abolished because its trustworthiness came into doubt after Precogs began seeing different things. This is barely touched on in the show, but should have been given more of an explanation."

...so when six years later, at a banquet to celebrate PreCrime being about to go national, the eponymous minority report video was leaked (seen by only the most powerful Pre-Cog, Agatha) showing Director Burgess murdering Agatha's then-rehabilitated mother in order to maintain legal state ownership of Agatha, the Director premeditates murder but commits suicide.

Presumably amidst the scandal, and without its main proponent Burgess, the whole PreCrime programme lost political favour and it was shut down, all prisoners released and the three most powerful Pre-Cogs relocated to the island.
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Sep 26, 2015
Meagan Good is freaking good and hot!!
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Sep 24, 2015
The show has potential, I think. I'm giving it the usual 4 episode test...giving a lot of the new shows that test as well.
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Sep 24, 2015
I liked it enough to see what happens next week :)
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Sep 23, 2015
Hm. I thought the leaked pilot was pretty bland... but then I watched this episode (wasn't going to originally, because I thought they only changed Dash's brother), and boy did they make things worse. Like, they made every aspect of the episode less enjoyable, and I have no idea how they did it.

The worst thing they did, and I knew about this before watching the episode again, was casting Nick Zano as Dash's twin. I mean, I have nothing against Nick Zano (he can be good in certain roles), but I always enjoy a show in which an actor and/or actress has to play multiple roles (see: Fringe, older eps of TVD, etc.) The range some of the actors and actresses display in doing so is almost always fantastic and eye-opening.

Anywho, I might check out a few more episodes, but I'm with the rest of you in thinking this thing isn't all that impressive.
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Sep 23, 2015
The show was ok, but it will suffer the same fate as Almost Human. It was nice to see Meagan Good in a better role than in the horrendous Mr. Robinson.
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Sep 23, 2015
is it another cop seriez??? if it is a cop seriez tell me not to watch it
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Sep 23, 2015
don't watch it
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Sep 23, 2015
I liked it better than blindspot but I think Fox will canceled it very soon.
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Sep 23, 2015
I didn't like it. I hated it, maybe because I really liked the short story and loved the movie.

First : the futuristic world : ridiculous !
Vega and the other cop looked ridiculous agitating their arms to make holograms appear. And it was choreographed and it showed. Not good at all.
And the city looked too bright, the colors were vivid, all seemed clean. And indeed, what's with the transparent screens ?

Also : the girls ate french fries and said "Can you imagine those things used to be bad for your health ? Thanks God for the genetic revolution"... You're kidding right ? The great thing about the future is that you can eat french fries without putting on weight ? What about I don't know, AIDS ? Or Hunger ? Or climate change ? Please !

Second : the story : a procedural, again !
Limitless : a guy takes a pill that makes him smart and helps the FBI
Castle : a very smart writer helps the FBI
Mentalist : a very smart guy helps the FBI
Blindspot : a tattooed girl helps the FBI
Minority Report : a guy who can see the future helps the FBI… A procedural, again ! What a great idea, they're not present enough on TV !

Does the story ask whether of not the future is fixed ? No. Does the story question arresting people before they commit a crime ? No. In the book and the movie, those questions were the heart of the story. Those questions made you think, thanks to K Dick's work.

In France, a president suggested to spot violent kindergarten kids because he was convinced they would become thugs as teenagers. He should have read K Dick (or listen to experts).

Minority Report the TV show is inspired by one of the greatest author of science fiction. It hasn't the right to become a common procedural.

Third : the actors : semi ridiculous
Meagan Good (Vega) : she can't act and it's obvious. One day, producers or the people who decide will choose actresses not based on their looks but on their ability to do the job. I'm not holding my breath.

Stark Sands : maybe it's because the pilot was rewritten but one scene I was convinced he was the worst actor on the planet, one scene I felt for the character and found him good. We'll see on the second episode. Not Good though. She was bad all the time.

I'll watch the next episode, because I want to see where they go with this story. But I bet the better adaptation of K Dick's work on TV this year won't be Minority Report.

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Sep 23, 2015
Well said about all the new shows. All procedurals trying to pretend they are not.
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Sep 24, 2015
And trying to be a procedural with a twist. I haven't actually watched yet, but if it's too procedure-ey, I'll probably have to watch when I'm not feeling well or something. Otherwise, I'm likely just to be a bit bored.

But, it sounds like there was potential for more. Here's hoping...
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Sep 23, 2015
Well said ;-)
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Sep 23, 2015
Wilmer Valderrama curse.
Loved the movie. Wont be watching this.
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Sep 23, 2015
Hmmm, it was so-so, I could smell a lot of cheesy cheesiness and do you think cop woman could dress like a cop and not like a hooker? There was one lingering shot where I am sure the cameraman was giving her the once over.
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Sep 23, 2015
You haven't seen many hookers in your life have you ?
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Sep 23, 2015
And if your ask the cameraman was giving her the once over, yes, he was. Because he was asked to. And that's the case in many many many shows.
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Sep 23, 2015
Oops... looks like I'm the only one that enjoyed it. I especially liked Stark Sands as Dash, I thought he was cute! And I liked his interaction with Vega. The danger is, it can become boring quickly. We'll just have to wait and see!
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Sep 23, 2015
They should have done this show during the precog era, not after like this series. As I remember from the movie there were 1100 criminals that had been incarcerated, potentially 1100 episodes more than enough for a full series.
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Sep 23, 2015
They said it why it was dismantled. People needed to believe that the future was unchangeable, that things HAD TO HAPPEN as "preseen". But that wasn't true. At least that is how I understood it.
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Sep 23, 2015
I gave it a 10 in awesomeness until "Washington_Red_Clouds"... after which I gave it a 6, I do not need a liberal crap propaganda sandwich with my entertainment, thanks. P.S. yes, I liked Almost Human a lot.
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Sep 23, 2015
And since I'm not an American and this quibble you have is completely lost to me, I guess I'll keep your ten and discard your six.
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Sep 23, 2015
Well from what i've read here, i'm not interested in watching. Also if for some reason it gets decent fox has this thing about scifi show's and not keeping them going even if they were decent. Very few show's last on fox for a longer period of time unless it's Fox news or is that fox rumors..lol
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Sep 23, 2015
I saw Minority Report and Blindspot tonight. Minority Report was much better. I also enjoyed it more than Almost Human, a show I feel like comparing MR to. But in several moments I felt someone would think, wow this is so cool, it would be great if they made a high-budget movie about it. Turns out they did. I mean there are way too many movie references in terms of style, music and direction. Anyway, I'm totally in for the rest of the season.
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Sep 23, 2015
I enjoyed Almost Human more than Minority Report. But between Blindspot and Minority Report I thought the latter show was more engaging over all.
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Sep 23, 2015
Oh, and I wish Sands had played both twins. But then, wouldn't the face recognition program have recognized Dash's face as Arthur's?
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Sep 23, 2015
I don't think Agatha is their sister. If I remember correctly, she is from another family entirely different.

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Sep 23, 2015
Vega's character is just a walking trope.
The actor who plays Dashiel seems good.
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Sep 23, 2015
I think you were a little bit harsh on the world-building stuff. That the world in which they exist is fully realized was, I thought, one of the better parts of the pilot. Otherwise, yeah; 'fine' is probably the best thing you can say about this one.
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Sep 22, 2015
Looks like I'm one of the few who liked the show. Won't say it's the best show that's for sure but for me it was entertaining enough.
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Sep 22, 2015
I didn't even think the movie was that great - and this show is much, much worse than that... PASS!
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Sep 22, 2015
Not only did I not like this show, I couldn't even watch the whole thing. I turned it off after about 30 minutes. No point wasting another half hour of my life.
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Sep 22, 2015
No. Just no.
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Sep 22, 2015
It was 'Meh'. I'll give it the 4 episode test.
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Uma
Sep 22, 2015
Is Wilmer Valderrama holding onto his accent on purpose? It's really hard to take him seriously as an alpha male type character when he has that from Spain Spanish lisp.

The episode was decent, if they find a way to serialize it, rather than have a 22-episode procedural I feel like it can be good.
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Sep 22, 2015

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Sep 22, 2015
Terrible acting and terrible writing. Going to continue watching until the 4th episode, but so far it looks bad.
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Sep 22, 2015
There was a bit too much camera focus on Megan Goode's breasts and bum.. Come on!
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Sep 22, 2015
I noticed that too, they focused quite a bit on her ass.
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Sep 23, 2015
Yeah. That's the always the case with actresses. They're always doing it ; maybe it's more obvious in this ?
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Sep 22, 2015
I said it yesterday and I'll repeat it today since I sit through the whole thing, this show is not good. I am ok with waiting till the 4th episode to call for cancelation, but by then I think the ratings will be in the toilet.
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Sep 22, 2015
So this is in everyone's Deadpool right?
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Sep 22, 2015
The casting for the show, the wardrobe choices for Megan Good, is terrible. She's playing a cop and they're using her body as part of the show. Its clear as day. Also, Megan Good doesn't play a good cop. She was on another show on NBC, played a cop, and it got axed...I watched it..gave it a chance because I want her to succeed....but she wasn't made for the part. Wilmer Valderama as the Lt? They absolutely missed with the casting. Show will probably be canceled mid season.
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jmw
Sep 22, 2015
I couldn't agree more. How is it possible to make such a bad casting choice ?!
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Sep 22, 2015
Boooring... Bad writing... And Meagan Good's brows. And acting. And I gave up after 19 minutes.

Very bad, I hope they cancel it.
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jmw
Sep 22, 2015
Same here after 20 min I was ready to give up but decided to endure 10 more to make the right decision. Bad acting for lead characters ? Checked. Dumb dialogs ? Checked. Sci-fi gadgets porn ? Checked
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Sep 22, 2015
Do it, FOX ...

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Sep 22, 2015
The ratings are in. As expected, the series bombed, earning a 1.1 in the 18-49 demographic. Don't waste time with this show. It will be canceled soon.
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Sep 22, 2015
So I had seen the episode before they added Nick Zano and no offense but Nick you weren't necessary. After watching the slight change and added scenes because of him. I hate this new pilot.
There are way more gadgets added/used in this new pilot.
There's no added mystery between Vega and Dash building upon their friendship.
Mason was supposed to die before the attempt on the mayor's life.
His daughter was supposed to be outside of the event the mayor was having and using a glove to control the pigeons.
She also wasn't supposed to die...
I'm telling you if you guys saw the previous pilot you would have enjoyed it more.
Also the episode ended with Dash receiving a call from Arthur asking for help and the image was distorted leaving Arthur a mystery until Dash and Vega find him.

Soo... Fox I don't know what made you think it wise to add more scenes, delete scenes, and FREAKIN ADDING NICK ZANO. YOU'RE ALL IDIOTS AND I ALREADY PREDICT THIS WONT BE RENEWED.
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Sep 22, 2015
Predictable plot and my money is on Van Eyk (The mayor) using Dash's bro for that hawkeye program of his.
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Sep 22, 2015
Meagan good...yowza! I watched most of the show just for her. It's like the more contrived the plot became the more attractive they made her appear.
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Sep 24, 2015
That sounds so funny. I can't wait to see it now. At least it will be amusing if nothing else. I'll have to check back once I've been able to watch. I don't have cable, so I'll see it eventually.
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Sep 22, 2015
i didn't know who she was before californication. she is pretty fine. didnt watch this show...maybe if it survives and heads to netflix.
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Sep 22, 2015
Okay (I do this with Penny Dreadful too since I don't get Showtime and I'm in the U.S. and apparently its not coming to my Netflix anytime soon), I have read this before I watch this. My consideration of this is that Chasing Life ends next week, I like Scorpion but I technically will have a slot open and this idea has always intrigued me. But I sort of found the movie a touch boring. Like, duh, he was going to figure out a way around it.

From what I can tell, I might be able to pick this up around episode three and not miss much. I get why they threw out the procedural element first, but yes, you'd have to think, the show is aware that its more interesting element is the precogs, what happened to them and why what happened to each particular sibling did and who else might be out there.
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Sep 22, 2015
I'd like to see more shows based on books. I think you could create entire universes similar to CSI, L&O, Arrow/Flash based on the works of certain authors. Phillip K. Dick has plenty of works that could be adapted into a cohesive universe. I'd also like to see a Bret Easton Ellis universe adapted for television. Last I heard Rules of Attraction was supposed to be adapted for Bravo but nothing has been said since.

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Sep 22, 2015
I agree that a BEE adaptation (or even an original Pilot by him) would make for amazingly entertaining television program. I also heard something about "Rules" being adapted but that was awhile ago and I haven't heard anything since either, and there has been talk for a few years now that FX is trying to make an "American Psycho" TV series but the details are quite varied and I personally don't think this will ever amount to anything.
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Sep 23, 2015
I assume that Rules of Attraction the tv series is dead. It's just been too long without hearing anything. It was going to be from the same guy who did the movie (Roger Avary).


The American Psycho tv series is similar in vein to Minority Report. Basically a show that isn't very similar to the original film stretching the original premise and doing potential damage to the film's legacy. It was supposed to be about Bateman training a protégé killer, which kind of seems to betray the ambiguity that makes AP work. Lionsgate keeps trying to shamelessly sellout the legacy of the film and before that wanted to remake the movie and set in the 2008 financial crisis. BEE tends to indicates that he disapproves by saying "well, I'll only allow them to cast Miles Fisher or Scott Disick". It's a film doesn't really allow for a clear sequel without ruining it and BEE would have to write one in order for one to be made (and he's floated the idea in the last few years before dismissing it). If that ever happens I expect Lionsgate to option it and film almost immediately. AP is the only thing that Ellis wrote that is a sure bet financially.


Last I checked Mr. Avary was trying to get both Glamorama and Lunar Park made as films; they seem to be going nowhere. Lunar Park seems like it could be a great film but Glamorama gives me doubts it could ever be made. It might have to be made for television (there were miniseries discussions with HBO at one point-not a bad idea) and if Rules were to get made as a tv series then why couldn't Glam spinoff it? Makes sense to me.

BEE has also mentioned Less Than Zero remakes and possible television adaptations. I'd like to see something closer to the book. (LTZ is owned by FOX and ROA & AP are owned by Lionsgate so crossover there are pretty difficult) There have been rumors of a LTZ remake directed by Tarantino (Mr. Avary's former collaborator) so that would be great to see.

I'd love to see BEE write some pilots based on his work and also other things. Creating pilots and film scripts seem to be what he does now instead of writing novels.
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Sep 22, 2015
'This Foxified version of Minority Report is a sequel to the film (and the Philip K. Dick short story upon which it was based)'. I'd like to use this line to plug the two posts @Syrinx2 and I made about Philip K. Dick two years ago and how his worlds could be so great for television.

Philip K. Dick: A Mastermind, But Underrated for Television?
Philip K. Dick: Dreams of the Future

They are fun to read if you would like to know a bit more about his work and what he has influenced in movies and on tv.
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Sep 22, 2015
1. Almost Human was so much better than this.

2. This is Sleepy Hollow but in reverse, dealing with the future instead of the past.

2b. This is The Dead Zone in the future.

I didn't hate it but it wasn't good, I'll give it the four episode test before deciding if I stick it out for its full one and done season.
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Sep 22, 2015
I feel like bringing Minority Report to television was a great idea but I just don't think this is the right way to do it. The best way to adapt this would be to start fresh and reboot the concept with the same character and continue the precrime narrative.

Minority Report is about John Anderton and precrime; once you get away from that I think it's no longer a follow up to Minority Report but more of a spinoff of it or simply just a derivative sci fi show masquerading under a famous name. Imagine a television sequel to Blade Runner not featuring Rick Deckard or replicants.
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Sep 22, 2015
Like others said, it's a bog standard procedural with a budget for odd futuristic effects and gadgets.

This has been done so many times before, including an added intrigue plot (the events that the two smarter pre-cogs see coming but won't tell the audience), that I don't see myself lasting more than a handful of episodes.
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Sep 22, 2015
What about 4 episodes :-).
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Sep 22, 2015
I only watched maybe 15 minutes or so of the pilot, but it sure felt to me like the tech and CGI were the star of the show, not the characters. I was especially confused when the homicide detective used that graphic doo-hickie to recreate the initial murder step by step. I get that the show is THE FUTURE and all, but that was made clear in the first 5 minutes. Didn't need to beat us over the head every scene with more gadgets.
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Sep 22, 2015
So they changed the pilot? That's explains why this Arthur dude is in all the advertising now, and looks NOTHING like his identical twin Dash.

Precrime was abolished because it's creator was manipulating it for his own gains, ironically to cover up his own murders in order to prevent the shut down of Precrime. The movie wasn't about wether or not Precrime was accurate (it was), it was about wether or not we are willing to Iive with the consequences of having a pre crime system. Whether society was going to accept that fate is determined or that people have free will (which is an illusion).
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Sep 22, 2015
a clairvoyant uses his powers to prevent birds pooing on police

i seriously thought this was cheap crap

to start the story the way they did was a cheap ploy and alienated educated viewers

start again cos this is not good enough
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Sep 22, 2015
Almost human was 100 times better than this!
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