Once Upon a Time Season 3 Premiere Review: U Start Believing in Me & I'll Start Believing in U

Once Upon a Time S03E01: "The Heart of the Truest Believer"


Bear with me, guys. I almost never recap OUAT chronologically, but the Season 3 premiere was so dense and insane I couldn’t in good conscience miss a scene. I ask you keep reading and BELIEVE it will end eventually.

Fellow OUAT fans, we went through a lot in Season 2. Our small-town drama had its most intriguing character pairings ripped apart for the majority of the season, and the last few episodes were just... they were embarrassing. Between August getting replaced by a child actor, "magic beans," Greg and Tamara’s inexcusable existence, and the depressing hints from production about an upcoming love triangle for Emma, a lot of us went into the Season 3 premiere just asking not to be too badly burned. 

So it was a relief that "The Heart of the Truest Believer" was a veritable electric parade of great decisions and quick fixes. Granted, OUAT’s M.O. has always been "strong premiere, strong finale, and a whole lot of treading water in between," but for now let’s just enjoy the show while we can. “The Heart of the Truest Believer” was possibly the weirdest episode of network television I’ve ever seen—a statement made with a lot of love. Murderous tuna. Soul theft. A walkie-talkie full of cornmeal. I loved all these bold, bizarre choices, but the best one by far was to keep our favorite characters constantly together. If Regina, Emma, Snow, and Charming are by each other's sides as often on the Lost island in Neverland as they did in this episode, I BELIEVE this season could be incredibly entertaining.

ANYWAY, the premiere opened with a flashback of Emma giving birth to Henry and then refusing to look at him. Quick fact: Everyone on this show was abandoned by their parents and/or watched their parents die. The entire series is just a candy-coated treatise on the vicious cycle of parental neglect. Just FYI for any newcomers.


In a moment of truly commendable special effects, the Jolly Roger emerged into another dimension and we were thrown onto the deck to see Regina spar with Hook in front of the ol’ steering bureau. Regina, in a revealing character moment, said she was surprised when Greg told her she was a villain. Regina (much like 90 percent of the OUAT fandom) doesn’t see herself that way.


The character moments gained more momentum as Emma took out her glasses and read the Charmings like the Oxford English Dictionary. In a moment that had me nodding along, Emma chastened her parents for posing as mentors when they were actually her same age, being perky to the point of stupidity, and dressing like effing hipsters—and then reminded them that THEY ABANDONED HER, nevermind that that’s exactly what she did to Henry AND IT STILL HURTS.




Then Rumplestiltskin showed up wearing his old Thriller jumpsuit and lectured us all on the importance of blind faith.


Guys, do you BELIEVE? What you believe in doesn’t particularly matter, it’s simply engaging in the act of blanking out your rational mind, as OUAT implicitly / explicitly encourages. (Unless, of course, you believe adoption is valid and important and/or are enamored of Swan Queen, in which case OUAT would like to gently smash your beliefs into smithereens!) Neverland RUNS on childlike belief! Which is bad news for Emma, because according to Rumple she has no imagination (I’m guessing that during their flight to Boston, she made some boring choices during a game of Mad Libs). Although, shouldn't imagination and belief technically be different things? Anyway, Rumple vanished into thin air, leaving Emma with no choice but to stomp below decks and tone her biceps.

Then we flashed over to Henry, the world’s most wanted/neglected child, who had been magicked to Neverland by Tamara and Greg. They did their whole tired, creaky song-and-dance routine about how they want to destroy magic and whole towns of people if need be, yet they don’t have even a vague understanding of why, and Henry was like “Writers, WTF?”




Luckily these two plot coupons were about to expire: After discovering that the mysterious organization they worked for had filled their single line of communication, an inter-dimensional walkie-talkie, with like parakeet food or something, we got the most preposterous reveal of the series. The super-secret international magic-fighting organization didn’t exist—the entity who hired and funded them was Peter Pan!

YUP! An uneducated group of Lost Boys who fend for themselves using hand-carved spears and a Teen Shadow convinced two adults in another dimension to dedicate their lives to fighting magic. YUP! We now know Tamara agreed to seduce Neal and faked being engaged to him for, like, a year, all the while not being clear on any of the details of why that was necessary. YUP! Did Peter Pan, boy demon, write them checks through a shadow corporation? Did he recruit them via Craigslist? Did he provide them with the high-tech magical tasers and torture equipment they were luggin’ around the sardine factory? Before I could ask any more questions, Tamara had an arrow chucked into her back by a catalog model and Greg GOT HIS SOUL RIPPED OUT and their incredibly embarrassing story arc was immediately erased from everyone’s brains. It felt so good just to let all of that go. It was like wetting my pants, but with logic.


Look, this reveal was legit insane. It was insane and lazy. But it’s impossible to really object to it because OUAT’s version of Peter Pan is THE strongest original concept the show has put forward to date, and I am happy to pretend Tamara and Greg never happened. Quick fix: Let us never speak of them again. They were writing devices to get Henry from Point A to Point B, where he could be dangled, much like a carrot, in front of our favorites so they can unite against Pan, and I’m in favor of aaaalllll that. I can suspend the shit out of my disbelief if it means we’re done with the Secret Anti-Magic League, the WORST of OUAT’s original concepts.

But I do want to point out that this “don’t think about it too much” mentality is exactly why none of Regina’s many many FTL crimes really “stick” with 90 percent of the audience. The plot has been so arbitrary and slapdash that the writers really no longer own these characters, the actors do. That’s why we’re all rooting for happy endings for Regina and Mr. Gold and hell, Peter Pan. Not that we know who he is yet. COMPLETELY UNRELATED:  Henry’s first and only same-age friend offered to help him flee the catalog models by going deeper into Neverland. We immediately assumed this unnamed, charismatic friend had no ulterior motive.


Back on the Jolly Roger, Hook barged in on Emma during her angry pull-ups to give her Neal’s sword and a wee nip of courage. Both will presumably come in handy when she needs to murder a bunch of tween boys.

We then cut to the Enchanted Forest, where Neal himself was blinking awake on the same Applebee’s waiting-area banquette where we first met Aurora.


Hey Philip! How'd you get your soul back? Also I did not know sleep could cure gunshots to the chest so, that’s cool. Anyway, Philip’s makeover from corpse to normal was not nearly as dramatic as Aurora’s new hairdo! Someone found a voluminizing spell!


Neal went on to confess to Mulan that he still loves Emma. That’s probably why he never followed up on what happened to her after she went to the slammer for muling his watches. Even after he learned that she broke the curse and understood his magical backstory, he up and got engaged to another lady. Their romance is truly as idyllic and beautiful as a Ricki Lake segment titled “My Baby Daddy Used Me, Abused Me, and Left Me to Rot In Jail… and Now He Wants Me Back!”  Mulan Neal him his “fear of rejection overcame his belief in love,” which was a polite way of saying he’s a puss-puss-pussay.

And then came the craziest scene of OUAT ever. That’s right, the unforgettable moment wherein a couple mischievous mermaids started doing kick-flips off the side of the boat, prompting Prince Charming to spin around a small cannon and start SHOOTING TO KILL MERMAIDS.




Prince Charming will blast a bitch to pieces who messes with his boat, and whether she has a tail or not is really none of his concern. Regina, proving once and for all that she is MVP and always has been, managed to much more effectively (and less fatally) scare the mermaids away by sending fireballs across the water. Emma and Snow insisted on hauling up a mermaid they caught in a net (which, obvs, they couldn’t do without Regina’s help), and the she-fish then lay shimmying awkwardly around on the deck while they threatened her. Things came to a head when bitch blew a conch shell, and by that I mean I cackled so wildly the neighbors banged on my duplex wall.


The ensuing barrage of one-liners from Regina in trying to handle the mermaid (“Filet the bitch!”) and the ensuing storm special effects were quite effective. (Theory: We are going to see a lot of Neverland at night because the CGI is more convincing.) Regina ultimately turned the Mermaid into a Pier One Imports sculpture, leading to Regina and Snow duking it out on the bucking deck of a storm-torn galleon!




Charming, in another legendary display of his leadership capabilities, decided to start a fight with the only guy on board who knew how to steer, during the height of the storm.

Amidst this cartoonish fracas cribbed from the climax of a Tim Allen film, Emma somehow made the connection that their inner turmoil was conjuring the LITERAL storm above, and she did what so many troubled youths do: She used self-destructive behavior to get her parents’ attention, leaping into the water to get brained by a mast. This was her LEAP OF FAITH, guys—one that her squirrelly parents might actually notice if she threw herself in harm’s way. (Just me, or did Regina seem REALLY upset about Emma going overboard?)  


Ultimately, Prince Charming would make possibly his first good parenting decision in 28 years and dive in after her. It’s unknown if any bloody mermaid fingers that he’d shot off of mystical sea creatures got caught in her hair while she was down there.

Similarly, Henry made a leap of faith with his unusually helpful friend, jumping across a yawning CGI chasm with nothing but a vial of white glitter to guarantee their safety. Leaps of faith and pixie dust will take you anywhere in Neverland, although rest assured that here on Earth, pixie dust and leaps of faith will mostly land you in the desert, living in an Airstream with a Manson-esque yogi, selling sherm to Burners.


Robert Carlyle made everyone’s lives complete by doing a sarcastic hand-twiddle. Neverland Rumplestiltskin is another great fix—letting Carlyle drop the Leprechaun impression while retaining the threat of being “the Dark One.” Rumple earned even more of our goodwill by not allowing Tamara’s storyline to continue, and then we learned that Rumple and Pan had a past (obviously, they both love scoopin’ up babies; they’re like the Coke and Pepsi of kidnapping), and then our all-powerful, charismatic Rumple sank to his knees and had a long weep over a corn-husk poppet. Is Rumple’s Vodun past going to finally be revealed?!


Meanwhile, in FTL, Neal led Mulan to his dad’s palace and basically ran into Robin Hood, a hipster squatter. Neal magicked a snow globe so he could see Emma in it, Wicked Witch-style, because “blood magic.” Sure, wetting my mental pants again, but sure. Neal tuned in just in time to see Emma landing alongside her other shipmates on Neverland.



Emma was making a quite the power grab, assigning herself the role of leader and goose-stepping up and down the beach as Regina, Snow, Charming, and Hook looked on, baffled, perhaps wondering how she’d managed to dry her hair so quickly. 

Villains, pirates, idiots, they must all work together! Emma’s special power? “Orgasmic magical interludes I’m a mother!” she screamed in Regina’s face. I would have shot back “Oh yeah? How many diapers have you changed? What are Henry’s allergies and what was his first word? P.S. Whereya been the last ten years?!” But Regina showed a lot of restraint by merely spanking Emma with her eyes.


Then, in a startling reveal that probably no one had ever even slightly predicted, Henry’s mysterious, companion revealed himself as Peter Pan! And he needs the heart of the truest believer! His whole plan all along was just to get Henry to Neverland!

Let’s... just for a moment let me play this out, let’s rewind the tape. So Peter Pan’s plan to abduct Henry was this simple:

1. First, he made contact with two adults in another dimension and convinced them he was a faceless and powerful secret organization, probably via Craigslist post.

2. He coached Tamara through seducing Neal, who at the time did NOT himself know that he was Henry’s father, or even that Henry existed.

3. Pan then told these agents via some inter-dimensional device to BLOW UP all of Storybrooke with a magic diamond fail-safe he somehow knew Regina had hid and then retrieved from Snow’s coffin—all while “taking care” of them, which I would assume means at the very least covering their travel expenses.

Cool! Whatever. I mean, the flagrant lack of logic to me is stunning. It truly is. But I know as well as y’all do that this show is about character development and emotional justice. Do I really want to be the one kid playing around in the backyard who points out the tree fort is made out of sheets? No, it’s not fun being that kid. This new premise is too enticing a sandbox. You could argue it’s now basically Lost with a cast of characters who have an insanely complicated and entertaining history and any number of super powers. Sure! Can’t wait to see more. The sheer audacity of this virtual series reset is enough to make me excited. Like, where does this all end? What happens to the first commercially successful primetime network fantasy show of our generation when the madmen at the wheel have burned the map and barreled off the road into uncharted territory? That’s a pretty effing intriguing question. 

I just hope OUAT rewards this suspension of disbelief by respecting us and believing in us, as viewers, to handle something more than just another trite love triangle.


QUESTIONS:

– Do you think OUAT's producers were forced to turn in a season outline before starting work on Season 3?

– Neverland!!! How long will we be here? Is this a series reset or a short detour on the way back home?

– Is Neal the worst love interest in the history of Western narrative? (Hint: The answer is not “no.”)

– Are you more or less excited about Season 3 after this premiere? Where do you hope the show is headed?


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Oct 17, 2013
So, does that mean maybe rumple was stealing kids to give to Peter Pan? Cause they never really explained why he wanted people's kids...
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Oct 11, 2013
For the most part, I think the writers have done a semi-decent job of having the real world (i.e. Storybrooke before broken curse) operate on real-world logic, and all of the fairy-tale worlds operate on fairy-tale logic. Which I think is the point, so it works for me. :)

Neal is a boring love interest. He's the only one that might lead to a lasting relationship... but he's... so... boring! At least, as a love interest (his character arcs are at least moderately interesting, if Emma isn't involved). Maybe if he got rid of the hangdog expression and spoke in something other than a monotone for once, but... no, even then, I like both Neal and Emma a lot more separately, than together.
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Oct 11, 2013
Re: "depressing hints from production about an upcoming love triangle for Emma"
On the plus side, there actually is a relationship between Hook and Bae. Which, assuming that they actually make something of this relationship, would make this an actual triangle.
Actual triangles are good. There's a very unique dynamic that comes from the third side of a love triangle. They're not nearly as common as fake triangles, though, and it's fake triangles that give "love triangles" a bad name.
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Oct 07, 2013
The pilot proved to me that the writers heard the fans' complaints from last season loud and clear. I think we'll be getting some serious character development this season (or at least, that's my hope). And I agree - let's pretend that Greg and Tamara never happened. Rumple killing Tamara off was satisfying.
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Nov 06, 2013
I must be the only one who thought season 2 was better than season 1 (no boring eps). Also, maybe I'm insane, but absolutely everything makes sense to me too. :-) Greg and Tamara were awesome... we thought Greg was just a plot device for the doctor's character reveal, and then he turned out to be so much more. Regina being so desperate for a family she sought to compel Greg and his dad to stay. A secret organization bent on keeping magic out of our world... or so we thought. All good stuff.

And the author's complaint about the "reveal" that Pan was the secret organization? It was already revealed last season! Rumplestiltskin said as much regarding Greg and Tamara being pawns in the last scene of the finale, plus we knew Pan wanted Henry and Greg and Tamara were ordered to kidnap Henry and take him to Neverland, so.... I'm shocked that people didn't understand from the finale that there was no organization and it was Pan manipulating them. But then, I was the only one who didn't think the last Lost Boy scene meant that the blond guy was Pan.

>Between August getting replaced by a child actor,

It had to happen! Remember these are Lost alumni. Once a character has completed their emotional growth arc, they have to be eliminated. August's story was over, then he and Gepetto got their happy ending.

>"magic beans,"

How are magic beans any more of an issue than Blue Fairies and Rumple's enchanted scarf and ... well.. anything else on the show? They became a big part of the plot, and we needed some way to move between worlds and the magic hat was all used up.

>Greg and Tamara’s inexcusable existence

Absolutely needed to set events in motion and bring heroes and villains together to fight an even greater threat, which will no doubt produce reveals of an even more extraordinary nature in the finale that will set the stage for a possible final season 4.

>, and the depressing hints from production about an upcoming love triangle for
>Emma

Emma, Neal, Hook? AWESOME. Why is that a problem?

> a lot of us went into the Season 3 premiere just asking not to be too badly burned.

I went into it excited that as good as season 2 was, the ending of season 3 suggested it was about to get even better! :-)



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Oct 07, 2013
I miss Tom Ellis as Robin Hood :(
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Oct 08, 2013
Yeah that was another random OUAT moment. Replacing actors with other actors who look NOTHING like the original actor? Without even being bothered to blame the change on magical shape-shifting or Greg and Tamara? Wtf! It's like "The Bold and The Beautiful" with a bigger budget.
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Oct 07, 2013
You are one fucking funny ass chick! Cheers! :D
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Oct 07, 2013
Did anyone catch the parallel between Shang (Mulan) and Neal when he started doing the magic unlock-the-dour routine with his father's staff? It's a similar routine to the one Shang does when training the army.
And apparently, there's a spoiler from Adam that Captain Swan is going to have a kiss or sex scene (not that didn't guess it).
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Oct 07, 2013
and that's a cool thought about the staff thing, it didn't click with me before but you're right about the reference. Hope it's true.
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Oct 07, 2013
I hope Neil ends up being Shang. Not that I would wish Neil on anybody but I'm hoping if he shacks up with Mulan we can get some Swan pirate action!
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Oct 05, 2013
Hilarious as always! I was so happy to see Emma, actual Emma, back in the beginning of the episode.

I find it agitating that Hook is supposed to be Emma's love interest and then their interactions are him unsubtley hitting on her and her rolling her eyes in a not-at-all fond way. (Viva la Swan Queen!)

I'm on board for this new season but I don't know if I can stomach a love triangle. Neal as a love interest is painful enough.
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Oct 03, 2013
Suspending belief is the only thing that gets most people through any episode of this show! That's not necessarily a bad thing.

I will always think of Regina as a bad guy because she is incapable of changing to be better. At the very best, she is a neither villain nor saint, but somewhere exactly in the middle.

– Do you think OUAT's producers were forced to turn in a season outline before starting work on Season 3?= Possibly. I have given up trying to image where this show is going. Half because most of it is so crazy that it doesn't matter and half because I really like all of the crazy sh*t that happens on this show.
– Neverland!!! How long will we be here? Is this a series reset or a short detour on the way back home?= At least half of the season, maybe the whole season. If the writers have enough material to write a whole season in Neverland, I'm down for it.
– Is Neal the worst love interest in the history of Western narrative? (Hint: The answer is not “no.”)= Yes, but he does have some redeeming qualities.
– Are you more or less excited about Season 3 after this premiere? Where do you hope the show is headed?= A little less excited. But, still pretty excited. My favorite thing about this episode, besides the Hook-Emma interactions which are hilarious, was that Henry had standalone scenes! He was actually in a scene without any of the other main characters, and it was pretty good. I think there will be some type of a showdown between Peter Pan and Rumple because now that Rumple knows that "the boy who will be his undoing" is his grandson, he doesn't want him dead anymore. Also, Rumple and Neal finding each other will be pretty cool too. Emma finally accepting magic and that she can do magic. What's going on in Storybrooke? Any more other worlds?

I definitely am NOT sad to see Greg and Tamara go! They were so funny opening the communication device to discover sand instead of batteries and thinking they had everything figured out. Peter Pan is right, it is a lot easier to get people to hate something rather than getting people to believe...in anything.
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Oct 03, 2013
I can suspend the shit out of my disbelief

Basically that's my mantra when I go into any fantasy/sci-fi/supernatural or...I don't know, anything on television for that matter. LOL!

  • Can I take a moment to profess my twisted love for Regina. I mean Lana Parilla just kills her deliveries. She has the best lines. She's just so bad, but so awesome, and sometime along the way last season I found myself rooting for her and Rumple ( "the Villains") more than anyone else. They just can't not be aswesome. You can't not be awesome when you're playing the most complex characters on the show and you have the talent of Robert Carlyle and Lana Parilla.
  • So, lemme get this straight...they have this magic vs science thing, and Tamara and Greg were all about the science, even though they had to use magic to force the science thing...but they did something so unscientific it was mind-blowing. They had a blind faith in a cause that they knew zilch about. Really? By the time they got killed in Neverland I just laughed, and it was even funnier that the kid showed them up. Even awesomer that Rumple did Tamara in.
  • Who didn't know that Rumple wouldn't go rogue? Rumple is not a team player, and he likes to handle business. I was so excited when he just dropped them all like a bad habit and proceeded to head to Neverland in search of his only family left to honor the son he thinks is gone. He's like a badass vigilante, anti-hero, who knowingly embarked on a suicide mission. Like, for some reason he truly believes that he's going to die (which is almost hard to believe because Pan doesn't seem all that powerful). Gramps is on a mission, and he was so awesome. I think I just really missed Rumple.
  • So mermaids are pains in the ass despite not having one of their own? Who'd have thought they could be menacing, annoying little creatures. I love how they turn things on their head on this show, because everyone thinks of mermaids as sweet...but nope, they were all bitchy and everything.
  • I didn't want this to happen, but I kinda, sorta am starting to like Hook. I didn't want to like Hook. I blame Colin. I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm not a self professed "Hooker" *g* but I'm stating to warm up to the guy. I think, it's the lost soul seeking family thing. I don't know, but these days I find the complicated grey characters far more compelling to watch than the good ones.
  • I can watch Snow and Regina girlfight all day.
  • In what universe did it make it acceptable for Emma to jump off of a ship, plunging to her potential demise in another realm just to get everyone to top fighting? That made no sense at all.
  • Every now and then I get all weirded out by the age thing. I mean, one of the things that I've hated ever since the end of season one, is how Emma went from having MM as a best friend and being a confidante to David, to having Charming and Snow trying to be parents. It's weird and uncomfortable and irritating and it puts them in this odd place now. Now they are the nagging parents, and there is no reason for them to parent anymore. Emma is grown, and it'll take years before they truly resolve the abandonment issues she has. I almost wish they'd just go back to being her friends. That weirdness also lingered when Hook and Emma were having their heart to heart. It was pleasant enough, and we all know they'll probably end up hooking up, but he's mourning the loss of Baelfire as if he was his own son, and Baelfire is like 30 now in our world, but possibly older in their world, because Rumple is like a million, so then I'm thinking of how old Hook should be and cue all the distractions and weirdness.
  • Neal trying to explain movies to Mulan was kinda funny. Especially when he commented on how badass hers was. She probably needed the distraction from the weird poly-amorous threesome she had going on with Aurora and Phillip (when did Phillip come back?!)
  • Helllooo Robin Hood. Is it strange that he's hanging out in abandoned castles and he's unusually helpful and forthcoming? Sure. But we'll see how things work out with him.
  • Blood magic. Sounds about right. I don't hate Neal so...fair enough.
  • I knew that brat was Pan!! How awesome was it that his face got all contorted and menacing out of nowhere though? He went from looking all non-threatening to looking like some evil spawn from Children of the Corn or something. I still need some time to buy into him being this "big bad" because it's going to take a lot out of this kid to pull that off but I look forward to it. I agree that this is the best original concept of all. "Pan" never sounded so menacing.
  • Of course Henry is valuable because he's a "true believer". What we deem blinding stupidity inherited from his mother, they see as some asset that has Pan wanting to keep him as a pet. Maybe I'm still trying to go with Scott being a "True Alpha" on Teen Wolf though.
  • I'm sorry but Emma as a leader is laughable. I mean she tried to have this whole rally speech and I was waiting for Simple Minds' "Don't You Forget About Me" to be playing in the background:
Dear Pan,
We accept the fact that we're destined to forego our differences in order to work together to defeat you. Why have we come to Neverland for such a mission you ask? That's simple, we came for the boy Henry. We understand if you're curious as to who we are. In the simplest of terms and the most convenient of definitions...each of us are a villain, a pirate, a prince, a princess, and a mother ( SN: Because Emma was deadset on bitchslapping Regina who raised her son, and her own mother who sacrificed everything to save her but whateves). Does that answer your question?
Sincerely (Passive Aggressiveness for "We're coming after your arse),
The dysfunctional/familial rescue club.
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Oct 03, 2013
Man, I am slacking terribly this week. I keep trying to get over here but it's just been crazy this week. I've been looking forward to these reviews all summer.

This show is so crazy. Not that this particular statement is breaking news, but I felt like it needed to be said again. It felt like we had a ton of set up for the episodes to come with some kick ass one liners from Regina thrown in.

Not only did Aurora find some volume, she found some color too. It's nice to know that the styling products of the Enchanted Forest remained unharmed by the curse.

Rumple definitely is acting like a man who has nothing to lose. And the sarcastic hand wave - so made my week (well now it's tied w/ Winston/Ferguson). I had to watch it a few times it was so great. The straw/voodoo doll is definitely gonna have some importance (I'm on board with it having to do w/ his dad).

All these issues (Emma w/ her parents, Snow/Regina, Hook/Charming, Rumple/most everyone) have been festering just below the surface for most of the show, but especially since the curse broke. I didn't think it would take a matter of minutes for everyone to be at each other's throats but I knew it would happen sooner or later. Needless to say, I'm glad that we're FINALLY getting to exploring a lot of these issues and dynamics. That was something sorely lacking in season 2.

Henry almost had me fooled. He was being all sarcastic and calling the idiots out, then he has to go and trust the first stranger he runs into. That boy will never learn.
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Oct 03, 2013
This episode proved to me that writers absolutely read the comments section on this site...they killed Tamara and Greg IMMEDIATELY.
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Oct 03, 2013
I liked this show on season 1 and a part of season 2, but now... honestly I hope this doesn't get beyond season 3. Yes, I know you have to let your imagination go, and even pretend there's logic on some moments. But the inconsistencies of OUAT make me believe the writers of the show must be under the effect of peyote while producing an episode.
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Oct 03, 2013
i love you.
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Oct 02, 2013
I don't get the hatred towards Neal. He and Emma should be together. Hook isn't the right guy for her at least.

I am glad to get rid of Tamara and Owen.

So fun to see Robin Hood!

A bad Peter Pan - how fun!

I hope they stay in Neverland for at least half the season. Then I hope they'll continue crossing over to other worlds or go back to the enchanted land/forest for another storyline in another season.

I LOVE RUMPLE! Best character of the show!

This episode was REALLY awesome! I hope they keep it up.
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Oct 03, 2013
Neal was some-hundrend years old when he got convinced by the 26 years old Pinokio to not only abandon the woman he loved but also make her go to jail because of something he himself did. He was older than any human can live and dated a 17-year-old girl, and he was ok with them being stealing partners. Now the show wants to convince us that this guy can be a good husband? Just because he is Henry's biological parent? No one that really loves his or her partner can do such cruelty. If needed he could just break up with her. Or help her start a decent life. But there is no excuse for letting a kid convince him to throw her in jail.

Regarding Hook, he is not ideal either. But he really loved Millah and took care of her. He was willing to die for her and protected her as much as he could. He was willing to take care of her child instead of using Bealfire to take revenge for Millah. He was fighting (and winning) with Emma and paused so as to save a starger woman's heart. He did a lot of bad things but on many occasions he proved that he knows what love is and that he wouldn't harm the people he loves.

Now, it's not like Emma has to choose one of those two. She could find another guy. But I'd rather see her with somebody who is willing to die for the woman he loves than somebody who is easily manipulated to throw her in jail.
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Oct 04, 2013
Hook started a relationship with a married woman (who was a bitch) who left her then good husband AND son.

Neal is not 100+ years old. He is perhaps 10-12 years older than Emma, and a 20-something guy dating a 17 year old girl is not all that uncommon. He was more of a coward for not going back to her after she got out of jail, and he was stupid for getting with Tamara, but he isn't exactly "bad" either. Maybe he is just more like his father then he realized. For being a bit of a coward I mean. (although Rumple wasn't that much of a coward really, to begin with) He might start to realize that now.

My point is that it is obvious those two are the ones that belong together. They still love each other.
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Oct 07, 2013
Neal IS actually 100+ years old. I can't remember which episode it was, but we did learn that Rumple had been the Dark One for a couple hundred years before the curse was cast.
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Oct 04, 2013
Ok I was bored to do the maths but now it seems required.
Neal was 14 years old when Rumple became the Dark one. Then he went to neverland and that's why he didn't age. However, Rumple was the Dark One (and have already lost Bealfire and was searching for a way to find him) when Regina's mother was 20 years old. Regina's mother was approx. 50 years old when Regina casted the curse.
So 14 years (Neal birth -> Rumble become the Dark one)
+ x (Rumble losing Bae -> Rumble meeting Cora)
+ 30 (Rumble meeting Cora -> Regina casting the curse)
+ 17 (Emma Birth -> Neal meeting Emma)
= 61 + x,
where x is unknown but could be several years. You would guess that somebody 61+ years old would be mature enough to not throw the love of his life into jail for something he himself did because a stranger told him to do so.

Millah was a bitch to Rumble but she proved her love to Hook. Hook had no responsibility to Rumble, he was not his friend or anything. If somebody is to blame, that's Millah, not Hook. Still she suggested that she, Rumble and their son leave that place so she isn't called "the wife of the Coward" by everyone in the city. Mistakes were made by Rumble's side as well. I don't approve what she did but it's kinda understandable. Even if not, Hook wasn't responsible. He just gave her a way out and she took it. You can blame Hook that he didn't have manners regarding weak people and that he wasted his life seeking for revenge. Still, he haven't ever harmed the people he loved.

I don't see why it's obvious that Emma and Neal belong together. Untill the 2nd season's finale, none would buy that. I'm personally offended because I feel like the show insinuates that the biological parents belong together (happened with Chinderella in our world when they had no memories too). I'm of a different opinion.
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Oct 04, 2013
Not aging doesn't mean you don't have the ability to develop your brain or acquire knowledge and experience. Let's agree that we disagree on the rest.
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Oct 04, 2013
You said it, he didn't age in Neverland. The only thing that matters is that he is NOT 100+ years old and does not look it either...

Hook gave her a way out - from leaving her son. He started a relationship with a married woman, so yes, he is also to blame. You don't do that either if you are a decent person. We don't know if he has harmed the people he loved or not. We don't know everything about him.

Umm, it was obvious from the start that they belong together. Maybe I've just seen so much TV by now that I notice it, but for sure it is obvious. Nothing wrong about biological parents belonging together... I think it is very romantic and NICE to see that for a change, instead of all the loose morale we get on TV these days... Even from OUAT now and then (Snow having a fling while under the curse).
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Oct 02, 2013
Loved loved loved this episode!

I actually thought the lost boy with Henry WAS Peter, but actually separate from the PAN shadow character. Thought it was an alter-ego, split personality story/ theme.

Wish they would do the whole season here, but I can see how they would think they can't disassociate from Storybrooke for a prolonged period of time.

Looking forward to the rest of season 3!


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Oct 02, 2013
There's no way in hell the original idea the writers had was for Tamara and Greg to be working for Peter Pan; I think my eyes rolled so hard I thought I was upside down for a minute. Okay like Revenge this show is hitting the reset button. Whatever story they were cooking up about people in the real world vs people in Storybrooke was tossed in the shredder and the show is going to stick with fantasy tales and Disney owned properties. The other thing that got me giving this show the side eye was Robin Hood; WTF really, Robin Hood. It just doesn't fit I'd rather had seen Jarar or even Beast; someone other than Robin Hood; he's not even magical. Another head scratcher it's okay for P. Charming to harpoon mermaids but it's a capital offense for Regina to turn them to wood; That whole fight made no sense; they could have started arguing over something different to cause the storm. And Peter Pan reveal; "Yawn" Raise your hand if you did not know that boy was going to be a lost boy or peter pan; personally I thought that he was just going to lead Henry to Peter Pan; I had my fingers crossed for some old fat guy with a boy fetish. Nope we got that guy; he looked as menacing as a member of the Mickey Mouse Club. With all that said I still like the show but I'm hoping now that they have hit the reset button the rest of the stories can begin to actually try and use some logic in the way they are connected.
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Oct 03, 2013
We've seen Beast...on every episode
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Oct 04, 2013
Oh yeah the combined Rumple and Beast I forgot
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Oct 02, 2013
I read these reviews because you think about the show logically whereas I just watch, don't ask questions, and cheer blindly for Regina and Rumple.
I do get worried though that the creators of the show have no real idea of where they want the show to go and thus take some really interesting steps getting to... wherever they later decide that place will be.
& Neverland is definitely not a 'reset', they'll be back to Storybrooke by mid-season I predict and the characters will resume wondering "Do we want to go back to FTL or stay here?" - which is probably what the creators of the show wonder too.
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Oct 02, 2013
It's really just a silly show that makes very little sense and it's filled with deus ex machinas but it's still entertaining.Mindless fun in other words.
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Oct 02, 2013
I think you're being too hard on the parents. Snow and Charming had no choice but to send Emma to the real world, and Emma was still in jail when she gave birth to Henry, she gave him away so he could have a better life. I wouldn't call either of them neglecting.
Anyway, you're right about Pan's plan, it doesn't make sense. But since he has history with Rumple and Rumple's made the curse, I guess he could have some info about the diamond. Also, the shadow travels to the real world, he could have found a way to contact Greg and Tamara. I'm sure the writers will crappily explain all this.
Nice premiere, happy so see Mulan and Aurora, loved Aurora's new hair!
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Oct 03, 2013
I respectfully disagree. They didn't have to send her away. Regina casting the curse did no real harm to them, it just brought them to the real world wiped of their memories. I mean, yeah, they didn't have their true loves together, but the thing is, if they don't remember what they lost, the emotional trauma isn't really going to affect them. It was only when Emma broke the curse that they realized what they lost, which when you think about it, isn't really much. Time hasn't passed at all, so their lives just resumed from where it left off when they were transported to this world. They sent Emma off not to save her, but to save themselves. They had no knowledge of how she'd end up, they just dropped her off in this world blindly believing she'd make it because of destiny. They had no idea that they would even end up in the same world as Emma when they were cursed, because the wardrobe was just a portal to other lands, not just this world. She could've ended up in Neverland! Then she'd never age to 28 years and never break the curse. Why did they wait so long to put someone in the wardrobe? What had they been doing? Because the wardrobe was built hours before Snow's delivery, why didn't she just go then? Then Snow could've raised her and protected her from the foster life she lived. If they hadn't put Emma through, all that would've happened would be that she would be cursed as well, never age, and just live the same day over and over just like the rest of them. Regina could've killed Snow and Charming if she wanted during that time, but she didn't. This sounds weird, but Emma would've been safer if she was under the curse like everyone else. So in my opinion, I believe that Snow and Charming weren't really thinking about Emma when they put her in that wardrobe. They were even told months before Regina cast the curse by Rumple! They could've at least used magic or something to research further into the foreign land and how they could shield her from harm.
The lack of logic in this show baffles me. I want to just turn my brain off and just enjoy, but with the bad CGI and just awkward out of character lines, I think I'll pass on this show from now on. I still love Lily's reviews though!
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Oct 03, 2013
The creators confirmed Regina intended to murder baby Emma. She was never going to just let her be cursed to be an infant forever. Makes sense, she wanted to get rid of the one person who could ever break the curse before it finished hitting so it could never be broken.
The curse was slavery. It's awful to do things to people even if they don't know things could be any better. They were cursed to be living lives that were miserable. They were Regina's personal toys. Also I don't give people points for "not killing" when they could have. I give them points for being decent human beings that don't enslave the entire populations of their world.
Also I don't understand why Lily insists on suggesting that Emma letting Henry be adopted is parental neglect. Neglectful would have been selfishly keeping an infant she had no way to feed, clothe or shelter.
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Oct 03, 2013
About your first point, they would have never given up and let themselves be hit by the curse without trying to fight it because of what could eventually happen to Emma, they had at least a duty to do that as sovereigns of the Enchanted Forest and their people.
Are you sure they knew exactly what the curse was ABOUT? Because Snow asked Regina when the curse hit and she just said "Someplace horrible", like only she knew..
About Emma's destiny, they are optimistic fairytale characters, of course destiny is enough!
Regina never wanted to kill them, but to let them live and suffer, without their loved ones.
Also about the portal, I don't think the writers were already thinking about multiple worlds during the pilot... and anyway, that's easily explainable.
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Oct 02, 2013
Great recap to an amazing episode, the interchange between the main characters on the ship was amazing througout with so many great one liners, happy that Greg & Tamara where dealt with sooner rather than later.

I just don't know why both Regina & Rumpelstiltskin will be scared of Peter Pan considering their power in contrast to a creep.
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Oct 02, 2013
Also, if this is the weirdest hour of TV you've ever seen, then you've clearly never seen Twin Peaks. Which you should.

Right now. Marathon it. It is *so* worth your time.

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Oct 02, 2013
Soooo then: Little Mermaid, or the mermaids from Pirates 4? It's gotta be one of those two.

I'm guessing we're in for some Ursula action soon. Which . . . OK.
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Oct 02, 2013
Emma as leader is probably the worst idea ever though it will no doubt be highly entertaining as she tries to navigate Neverland through a scraggly blonde curtain.
Also the sentences "Bitch blew a conch shell" and "brained by a mast" made me laugh for quite some time. Cheers for that.
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Oct 01, 2013
help me out here guys - is the result of the weekend I spent in Amsterdam or was the season 3 premiere of OUAT actually quite briliant? It's like teh producers called the writers into a room nd foreced them to read all teh comments we've been making on this website last season and told them to 'sort their shit out'
1) they got rid of the LVT (Least valuable players) in the first section. How cool was it when Henry called them out on how stupid they've been to blindly follow orders without question. thanks Lily. I too was wondering how they got recruited. Craigslist seems as valid a suggestion as anything the writers could thin. I am so relived that I can't be bothered to be pissed off at the time we viewers have been asked to invest in these useless characters (Greg & Tamara in case anyone is in any doubt who I am talking about) although I do feel sorry for the actors. they did the best they could under the circumstances. I just hope they got paid REALLY well and that this doesn't ruin their careers.
2) LOVE, LOVE, LOVE, reg, Rumple, Emma, Snow, Charming and Hook being thrown together. It was awesome to see their various appraoches to a bad situation clashing - Snow & Charming's 'rose tinted glasses' approach vs Reg and Rumple's health cynicism. the bitch fight between Snow and Reg was fantastic!
3) I also loved that Rumple, upon quickly realising how useless his companions were, ditched them immediately and set out on his own. smart move! Also loving the costume change and the return of badd ass Rumple (thank you writers for getting Hook to point that out - have you guys been taking lessons from Joss Wheedon on how to get away with pulling off plot loopholes without patronising your audience, by pointing out how ridiculous they are? Keep up the good work!)
3) loved the cut tohenry flying whilst his family were looking for him on the ground
4) nice 'Pan' reveal
5) the thing with the doll and Rumple at the end makes me wonder if Baelfire has a sibling that he doesn't know about...
All in all a FANTASTIC start to the new season. It feels so good to be able to write positive comments about this show as I do love it - I just haven't loved all the previous choices. I hope the writers etc keep up the good work!
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Oct 01, 2013
Never thought "prince charming" would once mean a guy with 3 pairs of dockers....
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Oct 01, 2013
once they killed the two dumbest characters in the history of television (hyperbole, there's still the cop in under the dome), I'm looking forward to this season.

I will definitely use the term "Filet the bitch!" in my daily trash talk!
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Oct 07, 2013
lol Sheriff Linda
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Oct 01, 2013
It was entertaining enough for me to finish the episode. Can't say that about Revenge.
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Oct 01, 2013
i love that they made Peter Pan a villian, I love it!
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Oct 01, 2013
"possibly the weirdest episode of network television I’ve ever seen"

I guess you gave up on Under the dome before the finale then.

"I mean, the flagrant lack of logic to me is stunning. It truly is. [...] Do I really want to be the one kid playing around in the backyard who points out the tree fort is made out of sheets? No, it’s not fun being that kid. "

Please continue. It's pretty entertaining. Certainly more entertaining than anything that happened on that boat.
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Oct 01, 2013
I just like to think back to how mesmerizing Season 1 was, especially the finale. It is a shame they have not been able to maintain/rediscover that magic.

I honestly don't feel even the actors are particularly into these scripts. Whereas everything in Season 1 just fell into place and felt "real," Season 2 felt fake, forced, and rather directionless. Although Season 2 had a few glimmers of light, the Season 3 premier just further showed that magic came to Storybrooke, but left the show.
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Oct 01, 2013
I wish Regina had wisecracked about the diapers as you suggest. Because we all know changing diapers is the most important parenting skill, far behind not psychologically abusing, not poisoning, not killing, not trying to curse, not giving your kid a front row seat to the murders you're committing and not memory erasing your child. Nope. Who cares if you do all that as long as you changed diapers?

Emma IS a mother. And thanks to Emma, Regina still is. Because Emma brought Henry back to life. And she was the only one on the boat still focused enough on Henry to not be trying to KILL the only help she had to save him.
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Oct 01, 2013
There is a problem with the message system on this site.
Funny thing is, any messages i have sent to the technical staff about this problem do not show up in my outbox, so i dont know whether they have been sent or received.
I am not the only person with this problem
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Oct 01, 2013
I went into this episode expecting to hate it, to cut it off my list of shows. And at first, I was asking myself why I was bothering. The whole reason the characters are in Neverland makes no sense for reasons listed above but DAMN IT I don't care anymore. Somewhere along the way the show drew me back in and I'm actually excited to see where this is going again. (Robert Carlyle's sarcastic hand twitter with accompanied eye roll definitely helped). DON'T SCREW THIS UP AGAIN OUTA WRITERS!
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Oct 01, 2013
I recently saw some poll that showed the Neal/Emma pairing to be the most disliked of all pairing on tv right now. I wish I could remember where I saw it.
Anywho, the recap had me cracking up, as always. I enjoyed the episode as a whole, especially sassy Regina back and that fact that she didn't have to cry, not once! Whew, relief! I agree that if we see the core characters for much of the first arc it will be successful. These are the characters we love/hate and what makes the show interesting. Hopefully, after a strange and disjointed Season 2, we can all get back to enjoying the show. I will miss Barbara Hershey though.
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Oct 01, 2013
There's no reason not to take a poll right now:

Poll

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Oct 02, 2013
Yay I heart polls so much!
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Oct 02, 2013
And I think the results confirmed it: Emma and Neal are the most disliked pairing of all (at least, right now).
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Oct 01, 2013

I found this episode to be good. Of course my favorite parts involved Regina's quips. Other than that, it was a set-up of things to come. I enjoyed Rumple's part a lot for some odd reason epsecially hen he cried. His leather clad self was really good, yet I could not look away from his almost clean shaven mustache area, which was not covered well. Stupid things like that keep me interested.

I'd also like to add that Henry is like the most optimistic kid who seemed to grow 5 inches in less than a year.

BTW, does the shadow stealing thing equate to one's soul being taken/eaten/burned? If so, I like it.

Tamara believing in magic sure worked out for her in the end didn't it? :p

– Do you think OUAT's producers were forced to turn in a season outline before starting work on Season 3? I so think they were. After the annoyance that was the lame Redemption of Regina crap, they had to do something.

– Neverland!!! How long will we be here? Is this a series reset or a short detour on the way back home? I say they will be there for almost half of teh season, why, because they have to first rescue Henry and then have to figure out how to get out of the land of magic. Will Avlon be next? You never know with this show.

– Is Neal the worst love interest in the history of Western narrative? (Hint: The answer is not “no.”) No he's not, but I'd be interested in him more if he stopped whispering all the damn time.

– Are you more or less excited about Season 3 after this premiere? Where do you hope the show is headed? I'm not excited. I rarely get excited for S3s. I forget why.
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Oct 02, 2013
Henry is growing up so fast!
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Oct 03, 2013
He really is. I'm glad they deided to not change him.
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Oct 01, 2013
I felt so good when Emma spoke her mind to the Charmings. They are the most annoying characters ever. Particularly, Snow.
If this season centers on the main cast, it could be really awesome. I hope we get more "deep" scenes between Emma/Regina, Regina/Snow, and, PLEASE, much more of badass Emma and sassy Regina.
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Oct 02, 2013
I thought that the Charmings would have learned something from their "curse selves", but I still hope they can improve.
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Oct 01, 2013
Nah, as long as the major characters/actors are back, studios don't care about scripts anymore.
They probably will have a mid season worlds clash like they did for season 2 so some characters can reunite, but I dunno if Neal will survive that. Their romance does suck, but I agree, audiences care more about the emotional payoff than details. I forgot all about the ridiculous magic diamond fail-safe thing until you brought it up, probably blocked it out on purpose.
I dunno, I hated Neal/Tamara, Greg/Tamara, Regina/monster stable boy, Rumple/Belle... nope, Rumpbelle has it, they are the worst.
Rumple's scene with the lost boy/catalog model was THE BEST I think I've seen from Robert Carlyle. Combining the dark one with Mr Gold (keeping the sexy shoulder pads but losing the creepy face glitter) gives him a whole new level of fabulous. Never been more attracted to him.
Also, the dark Pan continues to be intriguing... we all knew the new BFF for Henry was a plot, but not that it was Pan himself. The ominous, 'Let's Play' at the end was well placed. Here's hoping there's fewer 'magical objects as plot devices' and more 'magic has an actual price' in human emotion and understanding this season.
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Oct 01, 2013
I'm so happy my favorite sunday's show is back :)

I missed Emma, Snow, Rumple and even Regina. I didn't miss Henry or Charming at all - but you can't have everything, can you?

Poor Snow - she obviously suffers from wind (just look at the picture under "you mad sno?")

Ruple knows Peter Pan. Is he an ex-lost boy?

Do they really cuff you ankles to the bed if you give birth in a prison hospital? That was creepy.

I love Aurora's new hairdo.

I loved your recap Lily - "The nosebleeds have stopped. I'm ready to lead you" - that's hilarious.

I can't wait for the next episode.
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Oct 01, 2013
1) I certainly hope they handed in an outline for season 3 and that it doesn't just consist of stupid love triangles (especially when Emma & Regina are a perfect match)
2) I'm guessing we're going to be stuck in Neverland for most of the season. Maybe next season they'll do Oz.
3) Yes, Neal is really high up there in worst love interest, and it is absolutely nothing against the actor. For me, the statutory rape thing is a bit deal, especially since Emma was a vulnerable foster kid. He ranks really close to Ryan on Lost Girl if that tells you anything (Ryan was like the worst misogynist ever and I'm glad we're rid of him). I rolled my eyes when Emma got Balefire's sword. Didn't she have a sword of her own from when she killed the dragon?
4) I loved seeing Regina punch Snow. I loved Regina saying "rainbow kisses and unicorn stickers." I loved Henry saying "both my moms." I loved seeing Emma do pullups. I loved Emma diving into the ocean because her mom and girlfriend were fighting. There was a lot I loved. What I want more of: Emma's childhood before Neal. Emma & Regina having some quality time to just talk & banter. What I desperately don't want to see: I don't want to see Emma and Regina being thrown at men. They deserve better. If Emma & Regina can't have each other, I'd rather see them both single.
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Oct 01, 2013
You know, almost every Disney movie starts off with orphans or parent abandonment, too. The only thing that will keep me watching this show is to know I can come here and find that you've caught and made funny all the humongous plot holes. Even Jane Espenson won't be able to rescue this S3 mess.

BTW, why can't the mermaid sit up or roll over? Waterproof makeup in Neverland, too! Since the best actor on this show has the worse teeth, you think the producers would catch on that we don't need princesses to wear false eyelashes, pushup bras and facial filler. I know its Hollywood, so its too much to ask-- just putting it out there.
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Oct 01, 2013
Laughed out loud at this recap, way to capture the nonsense that this show constantly throws at us. (but SO GOOD OMG CAN'T STOP WATCHING. etc.)

I particularly loved Snow's pearl of wisdom that went along the lines of, "when I stop believing things will get better, is when I start knowing things won't get better." Yes, Snow, pretty sure the first part implies the second! But okay to be fair they don't have syllogisms in FTL, probably.

Also... is there ever any movie in the history of movies where the answer to "Don't blame yourself" is something other than a) some version of "yes i will" or b) "I don't, i blame YOU"?
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Sep 30, 2013
It is so hard for me to get behind such blatantly lazy stupidity. It feels extremely disrespectful to the audience. I felt the same way about Lost. We deserve better.
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Sep 30, 2013
I don't really know about this, the mess made in S2 is too big to sort just like that, specilly when plot lines are still going on & others are left hanging (Storybrook, The Forest AND Neverland now). I think the fairy tale element is almost completely lost so the series lacks the structure & secuence it had in S1. Point is, I'm skeptic.
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Oct 01, 2013
I gave up half way through Season 2...the plots were getting ridiculous and dialogue repetitive. But I'll give the writers points for getting rid of that deadweight Greg & Tamara to start the 3rd season. I still think the cast is too huge to cover properly, and I'm not feeling the love for this Neverland arc (I was never a big fan of Peter Pan as a fairy tale). I'm starting to think OUAT would be so much better off as a 12-15 episode season series...that way they could have more focus on a single plot line/villain .
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Sep 30, 2013
The first OUAT episode that didn't make me yawn ever since the pilot basically.
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Sep 30, 2013
Quick Question: Is eating a mermaid considered cannibalism?
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Sep 30, 2013
Depends on which half.
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Oct 01, 2013
Lol........
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Sep 30, 2013
"They made a movie about you, it was pretty good..." and with that Neal is already lying to Mulan .
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Oct 07, 2013
Mulan's a cool movie! "I'll make a man out of you" is a great inspirational, workout song.
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Sep 30, 2013
Yeah, that made me laugh.
"Why you lyin' to her, Neal? Everyone knows Mulan is Disney Princess C-team AT BEST."
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Sep 30, 2013
Mulan is a great movie. Don't hate.
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Oct 01, 2013
The only good thing about Mulan was the super yummy chicken nugget dipping sauce that McDonald's had while it was in theaters.
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Sep 30, 2013
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Sep 30, 2013
Thanks for the reviews!

I had high expectations from this episode and I wasn't let down. It was really nice, threw the trash away (Greg/Tamara etc) and had only interesting scenes. The fact is I still don't don't like the (Emma +) Bae nonsense but it's a good thing that we at least didn't spend a second in Storybrooke. I just hope, should Emma and Neal get reunited, he will eventually die in a dramatic scene so as to make Emma sad, the audiences cry (and me smile... ok, ok, I may wait till the end of the episode to do that.. Nah, who am I kidding?).

Now about the thing that hit Emma at the head. Is it only me or does anyone else believe it was not a coincidence? I mean... what are the chances? Neverland works with imagination and belief so I guess that one of them made it happen. Maybe Regina, and that's why she was so shocked. Or Emma herself? Was she that despared?

Wish the show continued focusing on the six protagonists at Neverland. It is interesting and entertaining after all.

"Emma was making a quite the power grab, assigning herself the role of leader and goose-stepping up and down the beach as Regina, Snow, Charming, and Hook looked on, baffled, perhaps wondering how she’d managed to dry her hair so quickly".
Hahaha! My fav! Didn't even notice!
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Sep 30, 2013
Hi, all. Hope you’ve had a good summer! I found time to read Lily’s review before I found time to watch the show, which, I suppose, pretty much summarizes my current OUAT priorities :-) I have now watched it, and had fun doing so. As always, I loved the Reginaisms, and I think that casting again hit a home run with Peter Pan.

Lily, I loved your analogy about everyone in a play group agreeing to pretend that a sheet is a fort. I suspect that many of us are holding our breath to see if, a couple of episodes into the season, the sheet will again blow away, (perhaps coming to rest on a bramble bush in the yard of that old, cranky neighbor that we all had :-)


I agree that, at this point, this is truly an actors’ show. These writers do have strength when it comes to the large, bold strokes. But I’m gonna predict that the glue that holds all of it together will remain lacking – including relationships that truly engage us – so that whenever the writers run out of cool, action-packed ‘events’, we’ll be left staring at the screen, wondering why we again agreed to play. Looking at the viewing numbers, it seems that this show is distilling down to a group of ‘core fans’ – us - who enjoy playing this fantastical game, and agree to pretend that the fort actually has substance. I truly am sorry if this sounds preachy – but I just really hope that these show runners attempt to show respect to this group of dedicated fans. Not by writing engaging relationships, as I don’t think that they are capable of that – but by at least offering episodes that are good enough to tacitly acknowledge that their fans have value beyond the desired money in their pockets.

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