Once Upon a Time "Sisters" Review: We'll Always Be Bosom Buddies, Friends, Sisters, and Pals

Once Upon a Time S05E19: "Sisters"

Once Upon a Time's "Sisters" was a great reminder of how, with the fluid timeline and spectrum of memory-erasure curses, any plotline can be easily retconned by sliding in a brand new backstory. Zelena and Regina need to start liking each other? Here's a hastily cobbled together backstory about the time they were friends. And boom! Now they're sisters. If they need to be enemies again, Regina can just cast her mind back to that one time Zelena posed as a dead woman to rape Robin Hood. Or Zelena can consider that thanks to Regina she's essentially a hostage of the Charmings.

Hades has decided Zelena is too good for Hell Storybrooke, she deserves the real thing, so he's going to make all the Charmings stay in hell so Hades and Zelena can rule over a drab Maine town, now crowded with medieval villagers living in tents. Considering the only difference between Storybrooke and Underworld Storybrooke is a red filter, I'm not sure why it even matters which one any of them is in, but Regina seemed pretty determined to get back to Real Storybrooke and figured the only way that would be possible was to free Cora from hell so she could ruin Zelena's love life.

Okay, so Cora wasn't actually in hell, she was just on one of Hades' many many circular green-screen platforms making flour so these two hardcore bakers didn't beat her up. All it took to free her was Hook sneaking his hook into a stack of wheat and she clipped off her anti-magic cuff, put on her nice pantsuit and was back in action. Kind of sad our "heroes" didn't free her sooner, considering how easy it was. And Cora was super down to eff around with Zelena, because why not ruin your estranged daughter's love ? Oh BTW, they weren't even that estranged. Back in the day, Regina knocked herself out trying to bring her doll to life and Cora had whisked herself to Oz and witnessed Zelena's magic and abusive upbringing firsthand.


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May 04, 2016
I can't believe I'm making a continuity point in OUAT, even within a single episode, but: Emma couldn't use magic because James slapped one of those "nuh uh to magic" cuffs on her.
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Apr 29, 2016
The River of lost souls, or whatever it's called is awfully convenient don't you think. First Gaston, ends up there, now James. Love how Rumple is all like, I'm bad now, so what. Not really sure Cora deserved heaven, lol.
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Apr 29, 2016
Nobody mentioned Rumple basically saying his wife was too stupid to come up with a sleeping curse idea on her own?

Rumple is the harbinger of "just say it out loud" this season.
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Apr 29, 2016
That scene in "Devil's Due" was absolutely priceless.
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Apr 29, 2016
Did this show succeed in making you feel protective and supportive of Zelena?...
I'm only supportive of Zelena when it comes to her baby. I don't think Regina and Robin she keep Zelena's baby away from her. There's been enough 'Mommy/Daddy" issues on this show already. Give her her damn baby and for God sakes give the kid a name or I'm just going to start calling her Zelena Jr.

Evil twins: Do you secretly wish you had one? ARE you one?
I have an older bro so I mean I think compared to him I am the evil twin. But No I wouldn't want my own evil twin. I don't have time for that shit.

... What tricks will Cora get up to in heaven and will the show eventually have the Charmings go there? If they do will they just film it all on the Storybrooke set with a diffusion filter so it looks all bright and glowy?
I think the only times will see Cora again will be in flashbacks and if OUAT really goes the Heaven route I may be done with the show. This isn't Supernatural okay? We don't need God and the Devil going back and forth on whose soul is worth saving and whose gonna sacrifice themselves for who. Please it's bad enough what we got going on now.

... Did you see how fast Robin was willing to abandon his baby? Emma was like, "Uh, you have to watch over your baby," and Robin was like, "Who?"
I've said it a lot and I'll said it again, Robin is useless on this show. Why the creators made him a regular is beyond me. He's completely useless. I was SOOOOO hoping James would have just shot him in the face after Robin shot an arrow at him.


I'll just say this though, I don't like the fact that you said Robin was raped. He was with a woman he thought was his wife so he had sex with her willingingly. She didn't force him to bone her.
And that's all I'm saying about that.

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Apr 29, 2016
UH WHAT?! Having consensual sex with someone you THOUGHT was someone else does NOT make it ok. It would be rape. If someone disguised themselves as my husband and I had sex with them I would absolutely say I was raped by that person even if I THOUGHT it was consensual because I THOUGHT it was my husband. Your logic baffles me!
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Apr 30, 2016
well you can think or believe whatever you like. I am just putting my opinon out there just like Lily did.
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Apr 28, 2016
Why does Emma still look washed out/depressed/sickly and what is up with her wearing that dumpy jacket 24/7?
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Apr 29, 2016
From what I've heard, Morrison decided to incorporate Dark Swan into her performance permanently. So this is it.
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Apr 27, 2016
I don't have a twin, but I've always thought it would be really cool to have one. And if I did, I'd want us to be evil together.
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Apr 27, 2016
"Gee, Pan, what do you want to do tonight?"
"The same thing we do every night, Rumple. Endure the Charmings... then try to get out of the Underworld!"

They're Rumple and Peter Pan, yes, Rumple and Peter Pan. One is a smartarse, the other's a big douche. They're always on main street, they have the magic cheats.
They're Rumple, Rumple and Peter Pan, Pan, Pan, Pan, Pan, Pan, Pan, Pan, Pan.
Your questions are pointless, don't get yourself in stress. Just wave the magic dagger, and beat this season's guest!
They're Rumple and Peter Pan(and Robin!), yes, Rumple and Peter Pan(and Robin!). Inside a teen fanfic, God knows how they can sleep(especially with Robin).
They'll defeat any foe(Robin has arrows!), and make a much better show(without Robin), they're Rumple, yes, Rumple and Peter Pan, Pan, Pan, Pan, Pan, Pan, Pan, Pan, Pan.
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Apr 27, 2016
Can someone pleeease explain to me:

What was the freaking point on going into Underworld in the first place? Why didn't Emma share her heart with REAL Hook, aka Hook's body - a body that has been rotting in Storybrooke for a few weeks by now, by the way!! Why did Emma come to UW to share her heart with Hook's spirit? How does that make any sense??

The one and only time anyone shared a heart in this show was when Charming had just died and Regina shared Snow's heart with his body, which was still warm and not rotting I may add....

Let me guess.... my questions are pointless?
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Apr 28, 2016
Sense and continuity will not be tolerated on this show!
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Apr 27, 2016
I have a better question: why is Hook not the Dark One anymore? Rumple stabbed himself with the dagger in season 3, but still came back dark. And I'm pretty sure the sword can't suck the Darkness out of whoever wields it, because then none of this would've happened.
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Apr 30, 2016
I thought his sacrifice at the end of season 5A when he pulled the darkness out of all the dark ones (and emma) included himself... but then again rumple's name is only on the dagger, Hook's was on Excalibre
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May 03, 2016
If it siphoned the Darkness out of Hook, then why bother killing Hook anyway? He would just be human then.
I thought Hook sacrificed himself to drag the Darkness with him. I guess it was nullified when Rumple turned it on and off again and it rebooted into the good old Rumplestiltskin dagger.
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Apr 28, 2016
Ah, you've stumbled upon the final twist of the season. Hook IS the dark one, and all of the "adventures in Hades" have been an elaborate fantasy created by him to torture Emma and the Charmings. Red never came to the "Underworld"! She and Mulan are shacked up together in a loft outside Portland, Oregon. Hades and Zelena are actually being portrayed by professional Hades and Zelena look-a-likes, Ralph and Marge Thomerson from Akron, OH. Rumple and Belle aren't even in the "Underworld". Their presence is simply a Dark One illusion. Actually, the real Rumple and Belle are undergoing couples' counseling in a last-ditch effort to stave off the messy divorce that everyone knows is coming. And "Underbrooke" itself is actually a set built on a movie lot in Minneapolis. The Minnesota State Board of Entertainment and Film Production is very disappointed because when they entered into this contract with Dark One Hook, they expected it would lead to increased exposure and more business for Minneapolis as a film- and TV-production area, a la Vancouver. Alas, the results have obviously been less than hoped for.

The season finale will culminate with Dark One Hook casting the entire set of our heroes into the "River of Souls" which will turn out to be a drainage ditch outside of Eau Claire, Wisconsin. This will wash away the illusion, and they'll realize they've been in the real world all along. Hook'll then laugh his evil butt off at their confused expressions. Quite the practical joker is Dark One Hook.

This season's cliffhanger will be : Dark One Hook sends Robin to the store to buy Cheerios, a box of microwave burritos and a pack of PBR. WILL HE REMEMBER THE BURRITOS?!!!!!! We'll have to wait all summer to find out!
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Apr 27, 2016
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Apr 27, 2016
Ohlee Geezus, so bad. The writters stopped caring so long ago. This is like they're pulling a big joke on everyone, trying to see how long we will put up with all the nonsense. This is like that show "under the dome" more and more every day.
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Apr 27, 2016

I may have actually burst out laughing at those two. Cora is being forced to mill flour endlessly for two thugs who look like they are dressed to scale down a the side of a building and break into steal something top secret from a corporate office or something....
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Apr 27, 2016

Where was Henry all episode? Did we even see him?
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Apr 27, 2016
Henry was in his room writing more lesbian fanfic and getting some ... let's call it alone time.
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Apr 27, 2016

My thoughts exactly when he's leaning over the water of doom with her. (And then he does the "oh yeah I have a baby." thing again. Come on man, stop forgetting about her! She was the whole thing they were after a second ago. What is wrong with you?)
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Apr 27, 2016
Why are they not working on getting rid of their names on the tombstones, find someone useless to trade for Hook and get the hell (hahaha) out of there?
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Apr 27, 2016
I know right? They are just like "oh dear we are still stuck here how come we haven't miraculously won yet?"
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Apr 27, 2016
It was weird to see Cora moving on... I do not think it was the right ending for her. Anyway... Is Hades really in love? He looks kind of stupid but I do like the idea of Zelena getting a happy ending.
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Apr 27, 2016
Hades is like a love-sick puppy every time he's around her, but I kind of ship it and want her to be happy with him. I could care less about the rest of them at this point since they can't seem to figure out what the hell they are doing right now.
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Apr 26, 2016
Really? Not a single joke about how Robin was supposed to protect the baby from Hades but was completely useless against James?
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Apr 26, 2016
...Remember when Emma was the star of this show? She was so blank-faced and spaced out this entire episode. oh yeah glory days and Robin oh yeah this is my chance to rid this bag sh..
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Apr 27, 2016
She looks kind of like an abused junkie girlfriend.
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Apr 26, 2016
whoa couldn't they find prettier girl to play young Regina? I don't know - maybe is the make up, but she doesn't look very good and Lana Parrilla is beautiful..
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Apr 27, 2016
Personally i thought she was adorable.
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Apr 27, 2016
Was it just me or did Young Regina not have a similar facial structure and look to Young Snow?
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Apr 27, 2016
I didn't think the Young Regina looked as much like Lana as the girl who played Young Lilith. Oddly, the woman who played Grownup Lilith looked more like this Young Regina to me....
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Apr 27, 2016
I thought the same thing! The girl who played young Lily should have been young Regina and the girl who played young Regina should have been young Lily. They would fit much better with their adult counterparts that way.

Young Zelena I thought was an ok match, although her accent kept making me think Sansa Stark.
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Apr 27, 2016
It would have been great if they'd cast young Lily's actress as young Regina, but it's too late now (forever sad about that).

I was hoping this season would reveal Leopold in the Underworld and maybe some flashback scenes to young Regina married to the King.

But, alas, we get Daniel's cracked tomb and a resurrection of the dead horse the writers have been beating instead.
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Apr 26, 2016
Enjoy Lily's recaps more than the show. I now watch OUaT as if it were an extended SNL script. Through those lenses, it's hilarious.
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Apr 26, 2016
Really liked this episode. I was hoping Cora would really do some irreparable emotional damage, but no such luck. Turns out Cora did something right for a change. Guess the prospect of spending eternity milling grain and one-ply toilet paper can really inspire change. It was nice seeing the sisters finally connect. It was not nice seeing them playing zombie prom dates. Seriously, who did their make up? Were they just paying tribute to Lexa in the 100?

What's worse than 1 Charming? 2 Charmings. dafuq was that side salad? Where's RObin? don't worry he'll find us. snap, twig breaks, Robin emerges from the brush....with a baby carrier in one hand and his trusty .50 cal in the other. Seriously bro. worst dad ever.

If shooting a dead person doesn't hurt them, then shoot them in the nuts.

Charming on Charming fight was not charming at all. How'd they all get back to the dock? Did they squeeze in to Cruella's De Ville? or into the front seat of the truck? How'd david get out? Cause he's such a crappy sheriff he knows how to exploit the flaws in his jail that he didn't fix. Here's to being clever and lazy. Boom.

Hook. Hi.

Rumple you crazy sonofabitch. "i'm peter pan, and I hate smooth peanut butter." just shake it off, shake it off. Looking forward to Rumple and Pan getting medieval.

... Did this show succeed in making you feel protective and supportive of Zelena?

not really. based on what happened to regina's lost childhood/adulthood, I think Zelena got the better end of the deal. No mother & hell mother & pageant mother.

... Evil twins: Do you secretly wish you had one? ARE you one?

I killed mine.

... What tricks will Cora get up to in heaven and will the show eventually have the Charmings go there? If they do will they just film it all on the Storybrooke set with a diffusion filter so it looks all bright and glowy?

My money is on Cora seducing Neal in heaven and getting bizz-ay

... Did you see how fast Robin was willing to abandon his baby? Emma was like, "Uh, you have to watch over your baby," and Robin was like, "Who?"

Robin never thought he would have kids after wearing those tight (tight) tights for so many years.
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Apr 27, 2016
"Shoot them in the nuts"- I'm not so sure you shot the evil twin, Sal. But your logic is impeccable.
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Apr 26, 2016
Hello, Forum! I've been off the entertainment grid for a while, so have now just 'binge read' Lily's past 4 reviews. Having no particular knowledge of TV production myself, I am struck by how many levels need to come together to make a good show. By failing on so many levels simultaneously, OUAT would really make a great study guide for a college course...with Lily as instructor, of course :-)

And one question: Does anyone know why Regina has been turned into Cousin It from the Addams Family??? (Face barely peeking out from behind hair, and the rest of her body covered from chin down like she is fighting the flu.) I hope that all is OK with the actress.
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Apr 27, 2016
I think she originally had the turtleneck wardrobe because they were filming outside in the Canadian winter. Unfortunately she's now gotten stuck in it. It tends to happen on this show. See Neverland arc and Snow's season 2 Enchanted Forest pink cardigan.
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Apr 28, 2016
How true, how true! I now remember poor Hook and his full-on 2 year costume...or was it 3 years? :-)
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Apr 27, 2016
She's depressed at being in Hell, away from her amazing wardrobe (and decent coffee). Cora should have taken both girls to the hairdresser because that's the mom thing to do
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Apr 28, 2016
:-)
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Apr 26, 2016
So now that they've introduced the river lethe and actually not used it, will they use it later. Wouldn't it be fun if Emma fell in the river and forgot all about Hook.
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Apr 26, 2016
They all fell in and forgot about the first half of the season.
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Apr 26, 2016
"You want to redeem the God of Death!"

Best line this episode. Regina always has the best ones.
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Apr 26, 2016
Why wouldn't Marian have unfinished business? She's all moved on and cool? Ok.

And I know no one has cared for a very, very long time, but Henry is missing so much school.
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Apr 26, 2016
Marian may have moved on. I mean if Neal moved on, and I'm assuming Graham, Johana, and everyone else who died, then probably she did as well.
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Apr 26, 2016
OUAT Snow was his teacher. He's not missing much.
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Apr 26, 2016
I wonder if his teachers in New York are worried that he just disappeared sometime in the middle of spring and then none of them or his friends heard from him again.
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Apr 26, 2016
Actually, he probably hasn't missed that much time. They've probably only been in the underworld a week or so, and it was only mid august when they entered, so he's only missed a few days.
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Apr 26, 2016
I officially only care about Rumple and Pan right now. I can't believe the writers are trying to make me like Cora, Regina AND Zelena. They're all murderous psychos, like a witch version of the Sawyer family.
Hades has been utterly spoiled by the unnecessary romance.
Emma and Hook are both... bleugh. Emma didn't have to take the Darkness from Regina and Hook was responsible for the whole Underworld melodrama. Not in my good graces, to say the least.
Cruella worked better alone, not with James. And I'm not really interested in her as a serious villain trying to escape. She's better as a flippant loony.
Henry and Robin are bland(and act weird).

I'm not surprised that Rumple is screwing everyone over, because I would probably do the same. And to think I started 5B with him as my least favourite.
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Apr 28, 2016
You do realize Rumple was a major reason for Cora, Zelena and Regina being villains?

Actually, before retconning it to death, it was Regina's unavoidable destiny to become Evil Queen and cast the Dark Curse as Emma becoming Savior and breaking it. Back when Rumple had foresight and manipulated everyone like puppets.

Ah, the good old days.
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Apr 29, 2016
"And then the final battle will begin!"

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Apr 30, 2016
LOL... and funny how back many many seasons ago when rumplestiltskin was making the deal with Cora for her first born, he said "she is rather important".... of course at the time that mean Regina doing the curse, however, now that it is Zelena.... I'm sure we're waiting for the surprise retcon for that.

Rumplestiltskin use to have seer abilities (that he stole from the blind eye-hand witch) ... what happened to them? Even if he lost them after he 'died' he still would have seen beyond that.
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May 03, 2016
Merlin apparently nicked them or something.
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May 02, 2016
My beloved Magnificent Bastard, oh how they ruined the.

The only thing I'll never forgive Rumple for is not murdering Hook instead of Milah.
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Apr 27, 2016
Honestly Regina Zelena and Cora were better when they WERE murderous psychos. Let's get off this whole hero kick and have them start some shit together. I'm getting tired of hearing Regina preach about love and family and goodness. That's Snow's schtick.
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Apr 27, 2016
I mean, even freaking Hades has to be a goody two-shoes now? I'm so disappointed by that. Just have him screw with everybody, he's a GOD.
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Apr 26, 2016
these writers are special kind of people...
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Apr 26, 2016
I gotta admit, it seems as if you write your reviews of the show while watching it, Lily.
Last week, you laughed at the fact of how easy it was for our heroes to just change the names on the tombstones, while you missed Hook explaining to Emma that he was able to do so with his hook because Hades had enchanted it a few episodes back, when he wanted Hook to write the names of 3 of his friends on the tombstones. And when he got rescued by his friends, Hades forgot to remove the spell on Killian's hook.
And now this week, you missed the part where James put on Emma's wrist a band to make her powerless (that we've already seen in several previous episodes/seasons). That's why she did not use her magic up to the docks ;)
This show is already walking on a thin line when trying to make sense, let's not make them even worse haha
Still enjoying your reviews though, can't wait for next week :)
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Apr 26, 2016
Not exactly. They said that James put the cuffs on her, but when David and James were fighting, Emma clearly offered to help him with magic.

Plus she could have stopped him long before he put the cuffs on her. It was idiotic on the show's part.
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Apr 27, 2016
James did put the cuff on Emma, but I filled in the blanks that Hook, with his enchanted hook, removed the cuff once they were reunited - in much the same way Cora had removed hers earlier with Hook's, err, hook.
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Apr 27, 2016
I'll have to rematch the part on the docks (nit the entire episode, I'm not that crazy).
but for the part with the cuffs, I don't see where she could have stopped James... she clearly thought he was her dad, then suddenly he puts the cuffs on her, with a gun pointed at her, Robin and the baby. How crazy would it be to attack already dead people (and not feeling pain anymore, as we saw with robin shooting an arrow at James and him pulling it out without pain) when these already dead people are treating to kill you and the baby? ;)
i'm just trying to make this show a little less without logic then it already is haha
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Apr 27, 2016
First, the fact that Robin shot him means that Emma clearly didn't think of the "can't hurt dead people" part

Second, she doesn't have to kill them, just get the gun away from them.

She was a bounty hunter in her previous job...
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Apr 29, 2016
Omigosh! I actually forgot she was a bounty hunter, that's how bad it is.
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Apr 26, 2016
By the way... I hope eveyone knew that the title of this review was from Mame! :-)
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Apr 26, 2016
Emma wasn't able to do magic cuz Cruella put a plot device on her wrist, I think. That doesn't explain why she didn't fight back physically though. She wasn't frozen or anything but she acted like it.
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Apr 27, 2016
"put a plot device on her wrist" &= Best way of describing it ever.
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Apr 26, 2016
Actually, it was James (charming's evil twin) who put the band on Emma's wrist. And they did not fight back because Cruella and James are already dead (Robin shot James in the heart with an arrow and it did nothing to him) AND they had a gun which they could use on Emma or Robin that would kill them and stay for good in the underworld ;)
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Apr 26, 2016
Emma offered to do magic against James when he was fighting David. At some point she clearly had them off.


And Emma was a bounty hunter. Surely she could get the gun away from James and Cruella who have 0 training what so ever.
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Apr 27, 2016
Perhaps, but James and Cruella had Robin's baby with them, so fighting them was probably not the best idea ;p
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Apr 26, 2016
The retconned flashback was an infuriatingly lazy move on the writers' part, as usual. And the James-David storyline was kind of a waste of a good opportunity,

BUT I will say that the shared scenes between Mader, Parilla, and Hershey were what redeemed this episode. They just made it freaking work!! Emmy nominations all around please.
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Apr 26, 2016
Laughed out loud at the "nice to meet you Salena." That was hilarious. How about when Cora didn't even pretend to run any water when she went to get a glass of water for Zelena? And she had never been in the house before?

The plot lines get thinner and thinner each week. And don't you think Cora would have been a little angry with Regina for not saving her sooner? I mean come on...
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Apr 26, 2016
Hahaha, and she LEFT the kitchen to go get water...from, like, the dining room?
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Apr 26, 2016
I was waiting for Zelena to call Cora out on the no running water thing too.
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Apr 26, 2016
So the body count for this Arc is incredible. The "Hero's" really aren't doing all that great.

Saved: Henry Sr (By Regina), Hercules (Snow), Liam (Hook), and Cora (Regina/Zelena)

Damned for all eternity: Milah (Rumple), Gaston (Belle), James (David), Auntie Em (Hades, because of the Scooby gang).
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Apr 28, 2016
Wow, reading this, I realise that the only two "main" characters that didn't save or damn anyone are Robin and Emma. As in, Emma has been as useless as Robin this half season. Depressing.
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Apr 27, 2016
Auntie Em was the worst. Wow.
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Apr 26, 2016
Well, technically speaking, they also saved Meg and a whole crew alongside Liam.


And I'm having a blank here, did they said what happened to Merlin's apprentice?
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Apr 27, 2016
I think the Apprentice is still in the Underworld. He hasn't been on screen or mentioned except his one appearance.
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Apr 26, 2016
I really like the combination of Rumple and Pan.
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Apr 26, 2016
I was like wtf when Robin was so quick to leave his daughter. Like stop putting others before your kids dude. I liked David and James it tbh. I'm surprised you didn't mention Cruella lol. Those family moments were really sweet you have to admit. After everything Regina and Zelena having each other in the end is great.
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Apr 25, 2016
Well, I suppose Persephone in Greek myths is a "green" (as in vegetation) goddess....
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Apr 25, 2016
Someone please find and bring back the real Emma Swan. Almost pitched myself out the window when I saw her clinging to Hook like she was about to fall into 'The River of Whose Morality Are We Testing Today.' Stop it show.
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Apr 25, 2016
Well, I suppose Persephone in Greek myths is a "green" (as in vegetation) goddess....
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Apr 25, 2016
... Did this show succeed in making you feel protective and supportive of Zelena? No

... Evil twins: Do you secretly wish you had one? ARE you one? Hell, yeah i wish i had one. Then my family would love me more...wait what never mind.

... What tricks will Cora get up to in heaven and will the show eventually have the Charmings go there? If they do will they just film it all on the Storybrooke set with a diffusion filter so it looks all bright and glowy? Yeah portal to Heaven to get some object or something. And Cora will be running the place very soon.

... Did you see how fast Robin was willing to abandon his baby? Emma was like, "Uh, you have to watch over your baby," and Robin was like, "Who?" Robin is perfect how dare you
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Apr 25, 2016
... Did this show succeed in making you feel protective and supportive of Zelena?
Well, it made me feel like she's finally on the path to redemption. However, I do wish it wasn't immediately followed with Pan and Rumple kidnapping her.

... Evil twins: Do you secretly wish you had one? ARE you one?
No and no

... What tricks will Cora get up to in heaven and will the show eventually have the Charmings go there? If they do will they just film it all on the Storybrooke set with a diffusion filter so it looks all bright and glowy?
That would be even more contrived than them going to Hell

... Did you see how fast Robin was willing to abandon his baby? Emma was like, "Uh, you have to watch over your baby," and Robin was like, "Who?"
I didn't notice

Seriously, though, I've never understood why Zelena's foster dad hated her magic so much. I mean, isn't Oz full of witches? It's not like she'd be an anomaly. The whole backstory about Zelena was contrived as well; Cora claimed Zelena couldn't stay because it would threaten all she had worked for for herself and Regina. But, why? She already married into royalty; did she think her having an illegitimate daughter years beforehand would turn people on her? Hell, she could have said Zelena was a cousin or something
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Apr 26, 2016
&Cora; claimed Zelena couldn't stay because it would threaten all she had worked for for herself and Regina. But, why?

I'd keep her and say cousin too, but there's the whole Cora had no heart thing. For someone so very dispassionate and logical, Cora raised a very very emotional daughter.
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Apr 25, 2016
Loved the look of disgust on Emma's face when Cruella was flirting was James.
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Apr 25, 2016
I have that same look most of Emma's screen time tbh.
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Apr 25, 2016
Noooo....writers why didn't you let us enjoy James a little bit more? I was hoping for more development, but well I also knew that I was going to be disappointed even before watching the episode, so....
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Apr 25, 2016
It annoys me to no end how much this show wastes it's best material. Cora, Zelena and Regina is basically the only thing this half had going for it. It's the only thing with any real emotional pay off, and instead of Cora bringing her daughters together in a natural, genuinely moving way, they took a cheap shortcut (a lot of people guessed as soon as they cast Little!Mills sisters). I don't mind the "a man fixes everything," since obviously they aren't keeping Hades beyond this arc, so that will turn out to not be the case. I'm hopeful Regina and Zelena will act like sisters now, and that could be hilarious if they let it (which I doubt they will, since it would be something for people who don't ship CS to enjoy, and they just hate that).

You can already see other characters being unable to do even basic things to prop up Hook. There's absolutely no reason Regina couldn't have sprung Cora, since it's not like it was hard. And since David could find Emma being her now normal waste of space at the docks as if by magic, no need to explain how Regina even knew where to find Cora. Or, hey, have a scene where the Blind Witch tells her. Next thing you know Regina will consider Hook a friend and totally approve of him as Emma's albatross boyfriend.

Emma being suddenly unable to physically fight was the tip of that iceberg, as she clung like a damsel in distress to a guy who she once whipped rather easily. That might be expected if she couldn't have jumped into that fight to rescue David should the need arise, and she can't do that now why exactly? Anyway, she's Boring McBlanderson since her whole existence became about Hook, and I really don't care what happens to her anymore.

Skipping the rest of the episodes, will read the reviews.
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Apr 25, 2016
Why were the little girls made up like drag queens?!...that was most disturbing!

That whole flashback memory thing was crazy. Why? why?
I feel like at some point their brains are going to turn to mush like an old USB thats been wiped too many times.

The whole Robin/James/David plot was pointless.....poor nameless baby.

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Apr 25, 2016
When little girls play dress up, they have no idea how to apply make-up or anything, and they usually end up looking like that or worse, like with lip-stick outside their lips.
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Apr 27, 2016
That actually struck me as super endearing
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Apr 25, 2016
oh my god Lily, I love you. Marry me?
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Apr 25, 2016
Corra going to heaven was BS! This whole episode was boring.
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Apr 25, 2016
I think the most annoying thing about this episode is the damned song Hades kept playing. At least play some "Ring of Fire" or "Elvira" or something. C'mon!

And yeah, it seems like for the last few episodes, Emma has been really weak...and non-makeup-y. Give that girl some anti-depressants or a trip back to NYC or something!
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Apr 25, 2016
I think everyone keeps forgetting that James clipped on one of those anti magic clips on Emma in the forest, which actually leads to my question of, Emma actually has some ass kicking normal people abilities. Its like the opposite of what I think with Barry and Kara (the Flash and Supergirl respectively) that makes me think I'm a sourpuss like Oliver (Arrow) that when they lose their abilities, a frequent storyline (that only Supergirl has sort of addressed), they don't know how to regular fight (Oliver's general point to Barry about not relying on his abilities). Emma has some actual non magic based abilities. I presume from the end fight scene that when Emma ran up to Hook, he unhooked it and that is why she was going to use magic. But, again, she doesn't need it in the face of most of these bad guys. I mean, Rumple starts spelling up, go kick him in the balls.

It was bittersweet to see Cora go (I am sitting through Damien where she is chewing up scenery and I honestly don't know if she thinks he is the antichrist or if she is batshit crazy or both on that show, so you know, I knew I'd see her tonight).
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Apr 26, 2016
When James and David were fighting on the docs, Emma clearly offered to help with magic. That's the issue people have with the whole anti magic cuffs thing. Either she took them off before, or we're supposed to assume Hook got them off her (if he got it off Cora...)

But... When did Hook have a chance? Doesn't look like he had any.


As for Emma fighting without magic, she was a bounty hunter. The pilot (as if any continuity stayed since then) showed her taking care of herself against a runaway. Surely she knows how to fight far better than Cruella or James.
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Apr 26, 2016
I have a feeling that reunion was cut for time (just like the whole clock thing from the premiere and how many ticks it made).

But yeah she should have basic fight skills from her job and then some dirty ones from foster care and living on the streets.
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Apr 26, 2016
I know right? Emma didn't need magic to whoop people as bailsbondperson and sheriff (Season 1, anyone?)


I think OUAT is at its best when it moderates its use of magic, the scenes with Zelena, Regina and Cora (not flashback) were the best and most emotional of the episode, too bad you're still thinking about all the plot holes and quick resolutions while you're watching it (yeah, Cora's going to leave after these scenes, I could predict it, and the outcome of David/James fight was so predictable it was rather disappointing).
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Apr 25, 2016
"IT WAS NICE MEETING YOU SELENA"
"IT'S ZELENA"
"WHATEVER"

Hehehe! you nailed it, Lily!
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Apr 25, 2016
As usual, too much I'd like to say and not enough time to say it. I DO wish the writers of this show would read some of these comments and get ideas from some of the brilliant viewers. Honestly, you guys...! If you all were writing the show, this would be a truly amazing series! One thing I want to say...I think it would have been really, REALLY interesting (and I dunno, somehow more good TV-show-like) if they'd played out James pretending to be his brother for longer. I wonder if it was that the actor couldn't do it (doubt it) or if it was just that the writers didn't want to be bother or didn't think about it. Most likely the latter, surely. But how cool would it have been to have had a number of episodes with David's evil twin posing as him!? That would have actually provided something interesting!!

Ah yes! Drag that out, and drag out the Cora/Zelena/Regina thing. Both of those would have made upcoming episodes 80,000x more worthwhile. :-/
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Apr 25, 2016
OH! Lol, but I need to say this one, too:
How funny was it that Hades was busy bragging a few episodes ago about how he sees ALL in his domain, and then when Zelena is getting harassed right outside the window of the diner he's waiting in, he's too busy dancing with himself to a.) look up and see her getting kidnapped, or b.) hear the exchange going on outside the door. LOL!
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Apr 25, 2016
With so many leads leaving their shows this season, I wonder what would happen if Lana Parrilla left OUAT at the end of 5b.
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Apr 26, 2016
Well JMO has already left mentally, but her body is contractually obligated for 7 seasons.
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Apr 25, 2016
They'd lose at least half their audience, wouldn't they?
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Apr 25, 2016
Now I see what OUaT writers are doing here...


Thank you, Lily, for opening my eyes! :D
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Apr 26, 2016

I think you're mixing you're super heroes here. Or have you forgotten...




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Apr 27, 2016
Lol, yes, but that was before she got all cuddly with Robin.
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Apr 25, 2016
In that case, for the hetrosexual plead, they should break up.
Yes, I am willing to use any and all arguments for this. I have no shame.
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Apr 25, 2016
I do not know if Emma is supposed to be all depressed and boring so Regina could kiss her better at the end of the season or what, but she looks really sick. To the point when I was googling rumours whether JMo is ill.
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