Once Upon a Time "Sympathy for the De Vil" Review: Over the Edge

Once Upon a Time S04E19: "Sympathy for the De Vil"

Well I'm sort of impressed! Once Upon a Time changed its hustle for once. "Sympathy for the De Vil" really faked us out with its opening: Cruella lost a parent, that’s why she’s evil, huh? Sigh. But NOPE. By the end of the episode, we learned that Cruella is just a straight-up sociopath who loves murdering people and killed her own father. I can't imagine having a name like Cruella helped, but a tip of the hat to OUAT for stepping slightly outside of its tried-and-true formula for making heroes and villains relatable. Maybe the writers wanted Cruella to be pure evil because Emma was going to kill her at the end of the episode? But I'm getting ahead of myself.

Let’s talk about how completely accepting David was of the idea that Marian was now Zelena.

That made me laugh. Much like the audience, there is no sentence too ridiculous to shock anyone in Storybrooke.

Regina was super on-point in this episode, and I'm not talking about her mock turtleneck sweater. She asked Belle to help her instead of just callously stealing her heart to snap on Rumple, and then she managed to get some leverage on him.

We learned that as a kid, Cruella had lived in the attic of the Chinatown mansion until one day the Author came to her mom’s doorstep looking for a compelling thinkpiece for Dog Fancy magazine and ended up whisking Cruella to a jazz club instead.

OUAT then made a giant leap in the internal logic of this hot mess: The realms we've been criss-crossing for the last four seasons are story realms that exist outside of time. Which is a piping hot, straight-out-of-someone’s-ass explanation because everyone in the Enchanted Forest has been tracking time almost obsessively, with all this talk about how the Savior will break the curse 28 years from now, and Aurora was asleep for X number years and so forth. So, eyeroll, but sure. Then the Author tried to impress Cruella with his omniscience, by conjuring up a necklace and some earrings for her to wear and then giving her magic powers so her mom could never abuse her via dalmatians again by just writing things down.

Oh wait he forgot a line.

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Aug 11, 2015
Remember season one of this show? The intrigue? The care the writers put in to telling a story that, yes, was a little crazy and whimsical, and yet featured characters with more depth than they'd had in other adaptations? Snow White was a rebel in the woods vs. a helpless weirdo like she was in the animated film. She and the Prince actually interacted more than just singing to each other once. And then, of course there was Regina and Gold and so many others that wove together a story that started to get really cool. And then something happened. At the end of season one Emma BROKE THE WHOLE FREAKING CURSE. And it all went to hell. They finished the story they'd hardly started telling soooo prematurely. Why couldn't season one be about Emma believing? Season two about her helping the others wake up to who they really were? Season 3 about trying to get home and accidentally ending up somewhere else. Season 4 about only Henry getting to the Enchanted Forest, having to grow up really fast and take ownership of his young life and becoming a badass warrior-leader hero and then his many parents showing up and he's like, "Welcome to My Kingdom That I Saved All By Myself Even Though I'm 14 Because When I Was Ten I Was the Only One Who Knew What Was Up." They cut their plot short in season one. Way short. And from then on it was insanity.

Four seasons in, I consistently ask after every episode, "Why do these writers still have jobs? How is it possible that Disney is putting up with this?" And then I go, "Oh, wait. I'm still watching it. That's how." I hate myself for supporting the laziness and bullshit, but, like watching The Room, can't look away from highly entertaining train wreck that is this show. Also, I honestly just want to read this blog more than I want to watch the show and so I watch it to read how hilarious you are.
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Apr 26, 2015
Let’s talk about how completely accepting David was of the idea that Marian was now Zelena.

Was it my imagination or did he sound a lot like Olaf? It could just be my head.
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Apr 25, 2015
Good to see some Cruella backstory and bet she has a high score on Angry Birds! gonna miss Cruella darliiing! loved Emma's force blast though!
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Apr 24, 2015
While this episode was completely fantastic by OUAT standards, killing Cruella simply is not the titanic moral struggle it was portrayed to be. Psychologically, we consider our children an extension of ourselves, and any rational being in more than passing acquaintance with human nature would place the defense of children under the same umbrella as defense of self.

I would agree with you, if a) Emma had not decided to attack Cruella, while she AND Henry were standing on the edge of the cliff; b) if she had attacked Cruella without killing her . . . like she did Zelena in (3.19) "A Curious Thing"; and c) if she had used another way to save Henry. No, Emma wanted Cruella dead . . . period. Which is why she went ahead and attacked the latter, like she did. It's a damn good thing that Henry had ducked on his own, or else he would have been dead alongside Cruella.

I'm sorry. Emma has an excuse for trying to save her child. But she doesn't have an excuse for trying to save Henry in the manner in which she did.
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Apr 24, 2015
While this episode was completely fantastic by OUAT standards, killing Cruella simply is not the titanic moral struggle it was portrayed to be. Psychologically, we consider our children an extension of ourselves, and any rational being in more than passing acquaintance with human nature would place the defense of children under the same umbrella as defense of self.

I have witnessed this phenomenon in action. When I was a young child, my mom shot someone who was loudly threatening to kill me, and I saw the whole thing go down. While it turns out that the perpetrator was bluffing and never intended to follow through with her threats, she still ended up with a bullet wound as a prize for her efforts. When you threaten someone's kid and get hurt, it's your own fault.
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Apr 24, 2015
I miss Cruella already.
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Apr 23, 2015
So since Frozen was the vehicle to get Emma comfortable with her manic, when Emma goes fully dark here in 4b and becomes S5a baddy, and since Henry will be off to college in the fall, does that mean Regina will go back to her evil ways so she and Emma can recurse the town, freezing all it's residents in time, and Regina and Emma can finally have their happily ever after?
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Apr 23, 2015
Magic*
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Apr 25, 2015
Regina and Emma are going to move to Henry's college town, so it's like they've always been a couple, and rehearse their backstory for parent events...
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Apr 26, 2015
I'd read that fic.
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Apr 26, 2015
If I can find time to write it! I'll let you know

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Maybe adopt a kid or two
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Apr 23, 2015
I laughed so much at the part where Maleficent asked about her baby and Cruella was just like, "Um, I abandoned her in a forest, I'm a terrible person, duh." I'm going to miss Cruella, it was nice having somebody just straight up evil.

Maybe she used the car to travel between realms? I mean, it was The Author's. And then she got it in our world because...magic?
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Apr 22, 2015
That was such a stupid plot
first of all killing someone in self defense or for the protection of your child
does not make you evil
Second why did Emma have to push De vill off the cliff in the first place ?
I mean she could just push De vill gun away or just transport Henry to a safe place worst case scenario De vill whould shot Henrey and they just heal him with a little magic


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We forgetting this emma is still learning magic she might be very powerful but she is not really good at using magic . I think it was easier to move the bigger think(a person) than to concerntrate on moving the smaller one (a gun) and if am henry I would have denied, just now she teleports half of him off the clift and the other half to g*d knows where.
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Apr 23, 2015
The contrivance fairy said it must be so. This all reminds me of how I waited for decades to find out why Anakin turned into Darth Vader, only to find out that he was basically a whiny kid with abandonment issues. Plus, Obi-Wan wouldn't let him drive the car. This show just doesn't even try to make any sense or even have clever lead ins.
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Apr 24, 2015
Well, slaughtering a whole village of people for killing his mom was a bit excessive, and dramatically weak because it happened off screen. I never quite bought how Anakin decided that a fascist dictatorship was the ideal system of government, either.
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Apr 22, 2015
this show is bat$#!t cray cray...I was going to stop watching but decided one more show... ugh..I guess I missed too many episodes.. should I ask what happened.. nah.
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Apr 23, 2015
Snow and Charming are jerkoffs who stole a baby and still refuse to admit that they did anything truly wrong because they THOUGHT they were hurting a dragon baby
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Apr 29, 2015
I agree ellkaykay i completely lost any interest in those 2(Snow and Charming) and their annoying ditsy daughter Emma. And Charming says oh maybe Malificent deserved it for all we know she lied about Regina having the dark curse.Are you freakennn kidding me what idiot justifies taking someone else's child.They seriously annoy me i just hope Lili comes and whoops their wannabe hero asses. As for Emma Lord i give up she is sooooo annoying.I have always loved once upon a time but its seriously all over the place now.i used to love the heroes but honestly i actually find some of the villains more fun and interesting e.g.Cruella.Even Malificent i actually simpathise with her for what twiddle D and Twiddle dum did to her by stealing her baby.is it cruel for me to wish that Snow and Charming receive a good serve of ass whooping for what they did to Malificent.
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Apr 29, 2015
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Apr 24, 2015
the specists.
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Apr 22, 2015
ok so cruella had the author's car till she became a team with maleficent and ursula and started guarding the egg. then the egg and ursula and cruella fell through a portal into our world.
q: how did cruella get the car back in real world, if it did not fall through the portal with her?

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Apr 29, 2015
rumpledumple you made me laugh so hard my cheeks hurt.I know what you mean how the hell did that car get to earth. Lmao. I just cant its too funny.
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Apr 22, 2015
its a different car she had commissioned to look just like her old one, because she liked it so much. Once she was in Storybrooke with magic she enchanted it like her old one so they were by that point identical.
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Apr 24, 2015
nice save there
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Apr 24, 2015
well, honestly who can say, the car shows up nominally first in the 20's or so, but its a car from the 80s in real life.
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Apr 29, 2015
fudgyvmp lol funny
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Apr 22, 2015
Important question: who is watching baby Neil during all this?
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Apr 29, 2015
emerald00 i just canttt thats sooo funny. God my cheeks hurt from laughing.And its a good question 2.
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Apr 29, 2015
Not to sound stupid or anything has anyone else noticed that not once do you ever see any of them go to the toilet i mean normal human beings use the bathroom.It's like on Lost all that running up and down in that jungle not once did you ever see a person take a bathroom break. I don't know even Rumple has got to need a bathroom break sometime between his evil plotting.
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Apr 22, 2015
They have a new nanny named Zeleno, Emma's evil twin brother who no one knew existed because he was still inside Snow when the first curse struck and for reasons unknown was then magically delivered to Arizona instead of Storybrooke. There he was raised by fiendish unkind people, and now he's back for revenge against the family he never knew and never had by planning to steal baby Neal as part of a spell to create an alternate dimension. BUmmBummbumm
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Apr 29, 2015
fudgyvmp stop my ribs hurt this is too funny i just cant.definitely glad i bumped into this discussion group ya'll really made me laugh.i haven't laughed this hard in a long time.i am in tears laughing
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Apr 22, 2015
Have you been making the special brownies again? you're supposed to save that for Sunday!
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Apr 23, 2015
I may have gotten into the mead a bit early, but no brownies. Didn't even make my special cookies today.
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Apr 25, 2015
I make this nice quick meade for Faire cast party- it's kinda fizzy like wine coolers, perfect for summer
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Apr 22, 2015
If you name you daughter Cruella you can't expect her to be a nice person. Come on, everybody knows that.....
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Apr 24, 2015
That logic didn't stop me from naming a cat Messalina.
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Apr 24, 2015
Well, cats are evil by default, so...... ;)
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Apr 25, 2015
Well, yes. My cat, Angelus, in his spare time is attempting to translate the Necronomicon into cat.
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Apr 25, 2015
BACK into Cat- just to verify the text
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Apr 22, 2015
but it sounds so pretty.
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Apr 21, 2015
I think Cruella can travel from realm to realm using the Author's car. He showed her the car, said he travels from realm to realm, gave her the keys and said "it's yours now". And she's been using it ever since.
Not that the show makes a point of explaining it to us, but I think that's the idea.
I might be reading too much into the whole car thing, but I think it's the only possible explanation.
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Apr 21, 2015
Henry could have grandkids by now... Geez I feel old.
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Apr 21, 2015
I wish they would decide what the Hell they're doing with Hook already! Either give him a storyline or send him away, this wandering around the fringes of the plot every episode is ridiculous and a wasted opportunity for a pretty good actor. Give him something to do besides follow Emma around, or send him sailing off onto another show please. (I personally would prefer the former to be honest, but either option would be better than his current role as official-exposition-question-asker. ''But what does this plot development mean love? Arrrr, *cliche piratey mumbling*...'' -''Why I'm glad you asked Hook! Listen up everyone, to an explanation that will amaze and astound you with its lazy storytelling'')
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Apr 22, 2015
Same with the Knave of Heart's... Michael Socha appears in the opening credits as a main cast member and he gets even less screen time than Hook. That's less than barely wandering around the fringes of the B plot. I think last episode with him in Oz was the most we've seen him all season.
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Apr 21, 2015
I agree! He is just useless right now and he has not been given really anything to work except to be Rumple's pawn and even that is tiring. They also need to figure out what the hell they are doing with Henry as well! Does this kid even have any friends, it cannot be fun hanging around his parents and grandparents all damn day!
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Apr 21, 2015
Shouldn't he be looking for a way to get back at Rumple for nearly killing him in the clock tower?
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Apr 22, 2015
Probably, but honestly, every time he tries to get back at Rumple there is always a fairly miserable back-fire attached. He's got the boat back, couldn't he go fishing or take out day trippers or something? The man has no income.
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Apr 22, 2015
Why would he need income? It looks like he's happy with Emma as his sugar mama. :)
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Apr 23, 2015
Yeah, but she's not exactly living the big life. Oh, wait, what if Hook and the Knave started a Storybrooke's version of Chippendales? Might give them a purpose.
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Apr 21, 2015
next year when they need a new show for midseason hiatus, Once Upon a Time in Neverland to replace Galavant, chronicling the adventures of Hook, Tinkerbell, Bea, and asorted fairytale washouts.
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Apr 21, 2015
I'm sure there's a bar somewhere where the tertiary characters hang out.
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Apr 24, 2015
There is! The Rabbit Hole. We've seen it in a few episodes.
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Apr 22, 2015
I like to pretend Blue Fairy is evil and all missing tertiary characters are enslaved in her fairy dust mines below the city. And the Charmings are just oblivious to this fact.
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Apr 22, 2015
A tiny single room shack behind a warehouse, like the sidekicks lounge on the Tick.
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Apr 21, 2015
Let's meet there for a drink!
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Apr 25, 2015
I'll buy!
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Apr 21, 2015
Henry hasn't gotten kidnapped in awHILE. Since Zelena or some Flying Monkey kidnapped him. The Frozen season had him out of the spotlight to undergo puberty all on his own, and without him as the focus of the show, it's been a much more enjoyable season. :)
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Apr 21, 2015
you forget, in the Frozen arc Gold wanted to ditch town with Belle and Henry (why he wanted Henry IDK, he doesn't seem to have a reason to want him beside that he's his grandson). So Hook was tasked with hunting him down. He of course failed miserably in Henry-napping, but his heart just wasn't in it(bad puns bad).
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Apr 21, 2015
About Cruella: I LOVE her being angry at angry birds XD
While her backstory didn't make any sense to me, she's a common villain now...
And I think not every realm is a "story" one. Of course that explanation is crap! I had my doubts that the Author was getting too deus ex machina... this is getting weird.
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Apr 21, 2015
nothing is safe or sacred ..not even the dim,cool quiet of my sleeping brain .. Just had some kind of Swan Queen dream .. very early 90s mv featuring Emma and Regina in various hues of ecstatic/ dramatic as Depeche Mode's " Enjoy The Silence " plays ... heroin chic comes to Storybrooke !

do I need to contemplate seeking professional help ?
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Apr 22, 2015
No, you need to hunt up Lacuna Coil's cover of Enjoy the Silence, now.
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Apr 22, 2015
Yesterday was 420…. Must've been some good ish :)
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Apr 21, 2015
Or stop washing down sleeping pills with vodka
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Apr 21, 2015
Someone seriously needs to put a fence around that shit, but I guess everyone in town is too busy getting blasted with purple smoke curses and parsing through their parent issues to make Storybrooke even slightly more livable.

To be fair, they do have to keep putting main street back together and repairing the clock tower every other week. I'm sure State Farm has already put 'Do Not Assist' on any piece of paper with a Storybrooke address on it.
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Apr 22, 2015
Main St is probably important. We all know how I feel about that clock tower…. It's been a beacon of all that is evil in Storybrooke and all their problems would likely be solved if they just tore the damn thing down. I think 4b is the 1st time the clock tower hasn't been used by a baddy (yet). I shall be disappointed if the series finale doesn't end with the implosion of that clock tower. The tower itself is actually a computer graphic set extension, so blowing it up would be cheap(er than a practical explosion of an actual building) and safer. :)
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Apr 22, 2015
If it would make you happy, austin, when I write a OUAT fanfic, I'll blow it completely apart pretty spectacularly, just for you!
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Apr 22, 2015
I just realized I lied. The midsession premiere that he'll beast thing perched itself on the clock tower. So I think it's safe to say all 4 seasons it's been nothing but a playground for evilness. Maybe Emma will move in this week?
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Apr 26, 2015
That's the proof, it should be destroyed and buried under a truckful of salt.
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Apr 21, 2015
Also, Emma's used a gun before. Season 1 Land Without Magic. She's just dropped in to kill a dragon. She sees a sword and is all, pht, swords. Hell with that, and pulls out her gun on Mal, which then fails miserably, (cause bullets don't pierce like overhead tossed swords). She also uses the gun in season 2. She had it with her when she got sent to the Enchanted Forest and used it on some ogres at which point Snow White slaps her wrist tries to be a good mother (and fails) and then uses and then shoots the ogre with an arrow (because again bullets don't pierce as hard as arrows apparently).

All things considered that actually implies Emma carries her gun everywhere and a decent amount of ammo, since she didn't have much time to reload between fighting the dragon and then falling through the portal to the Forest.
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Apr 21, 2015
I've seen a demo where they shoot a Kevlar vest at close range with a .357- no damage. Then a guy 100 feet away puts an arrow right through it and out the back.
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Apr 21, 2015
What are the writer's on? This show is insane. There really is no point trying to understand or pointing out the flaws but it is still fun.

However, Henry has been kidnapped enough at this point. Something new wouldn't hurt.
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Apr 22, 2015
They could have him fall in a well, and then have Pongo save him.
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Apr 21, 2015
So next episode we can have Snow get woman-napped by a previously baby-snatched woman?
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Apr 21, 2015
That would be awesome
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Apr 21, 2015
Which unfortunately is likely to happen. Would no kidnappings for a while be entirely out of the question?
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Apr 21, 2015
but this show is based on two basic foundations. Parental abandonment is the source of all human problems and kidnapping, no moral behind it, just kidnapping.
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Apr 21, 2015
You do have a point. Especially about parental abandonement in this show... I suppose we'll just have to accept how everything is a parent's fault.
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Apr 21, 2015
Wait the crystal ball and conch are old news.

Rumple got that crystal ages ago from Jefferson. Rumple sent him to Oz to steal it and the Silver Slippers from Zelena's (or whoever the folks writing thought was running Oz before they decided Cora's bastard daughter we're gonna retcon in).
Its part of the flash back where Regina is having doubts about ripping hearts out and hires Frankenstien to revive Daniel so she doesn't have to seek revenge and stuff.
Since then it was used a number of times for spying on people. In season 3 we see its purpose for the first time with Neal using it to locate Emma. Rumple wanted it badly for some reason, but left it in the Enchanted forest so Neal found it with Mulan and Robinhood. In the season 3 finale we see Rumple use it to locate Snow White for Emma so Emma can fix the timeline. Season 4 he uses it to spy on Anna and the Apprentice and now the whole gang.

Conchs I think were introduced in Neverland and largely used to summon mermaids and other sea-life as phones into the ocean basically, but here they were just repurposed a little to carry voices across the forest instead of into the sea, I think that's a clever way to reuse something they already had instead of making up something else (though it would've been equally nice if Gold had just used standard our world tech, everything doesn't have to be magic).
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Apr 21, 2015
Speaking of nonsense, Cruella killed her mother's husbands but not her (till she had magic), why? She could've killed her with an object from her room and be free, but it was not convenient to the plot, so we got this nonsense of her staying in the room doing nothing for years.

Despite the flaws, the episode was still entertaining, hopefully this season will go somewhere interesting, like Emma becoming the next Dark One if Rumple ends up dying for good, we'll see.
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Apr 21, 2015
I'm sure her logic was simple. If she killed her mother, she couldn't see the suffering that she caused her mother by murdering her husbands. I'm sure she loved seeing every tear, every shake and listen to every word her mother said almost as much as watching those men die. Which I'm sure played a large part in why she killed each one - to watch her mother's grief and to remind her mother that anyone her mother loves can be taken away, no matter how hard her mother tries to stop her and what her mother can expect for herself if Cruella gets free.
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Apr 21, 2015
Her mommy's dogs were really scary, and flowers she liked to poison with weren't harmful to dogs? I don't know. Wait I do know. The answer is MAGIC, ooooh.
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Apr 21, 2015
Dogs can be trained only to accept food from their owner. Bot some things that don't hurt people (like onions and grapes) aren't good for dogs. So, could go either way
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Apr 26, 2015
A lot of very dark chocolate would have been very bad for the doggies.
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Apr 26, 2015
I'll take theirs...
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Apr 22, 2015
well she wouldn't need to feed the poison to them herself if she ground the flowers up and got an oil or something out of them, she'd just need to sprinkle it into the doggie kibble where ever mummy kept that. As for grapes and other plants dogs can't eat, she was in that tiny room most her life and could easily not know about this and if her mom thought she was a devil child, she wouldn't go around sharing trade secrets about dog care with her.
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Apr 21, 2015

Oh and one more thing…why the freak Emma is looking like she is ultra thirsty for some sleep? She is not looking so good and they really pushing it. However I just want to say that i am so happy she is wearing that red pleather jacket less...
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Apr 21, 2015
Regina, is that you? ;)
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Apr 21, 2015
LOL
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Apr 21, 2015
"so happy she is wearing that red pleather jacket less..."
Yep, this was a dead giveaway. :D
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Apr 21, 2015
I was just looking online trying to find that out myself lol. Seriously the last few episodes ive noticed this too she looks really sick.
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Apr 21, 2015
I mean I guess it is supposed to make her look like she going dark or close to it but if so…why the freak Regina and the Queens of Darkness look hell a good?…
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Apr 21, 2015
At this point I want Henry to get in some self-defense classes cause its bad enough his storyline seem to be to only give hope speeches, throw tantrums, or get kidnap….COME ON!!! Change it up a little please.

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Apr 21, 2015
When I saw Emma give that gun to regina my first thought was "Now If this bitch get pulled over by the cops she going to jail cause ah wtf is the license, permit to carry and all that other shit that is required in THE REAL WORLD?" but this is OUAT so of course they don't care about RL laws, i mean why waste your time on such a thing even though you might go to jail and get shank-raped in the showers….but hey that doesn't matter cause you have magic and you can just heal yourself? Right? Oh yea your in the world without magic even though we see Zelena switching forms there obviously using magic….These people dumb as freak.
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Apr 21, 2015
no Zelena had a magic clover change her shape. Magic devices work in real world. Just not people's innate magic stuff, which we dog gone dun seen every season where we leave Storybrook.
That said unless Regina does something stupid its not really all that likely she's gonna get pulled over and have an officer root through her purse to look for a gun. Even if she does like rearend someone or speed. They ask for your license and registration, not the entire contents of your purse and glove box.
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Apr 21, 2015
- Cruella: Are all your questions answered? Or are you curious about how she’s managed to bring her car from realm to realm?
I still have the question about the car, but maybe that's who the author used to jump from realm to realm and she basically took it from him. Not sure about that one. And for the backstory on Cruella, I think it was great! I mean I was suspecting it would be the total oposite! Nasty mom, sweet kid turned evil because choosing to run away with the author ended in her mother's dead. Something like that. But I guess it makes sense, because from the Disney Villains, I do think that Cruella's very bad, she the only willing to kill puppies to maintain some fashion fab.

- Why hasn't Emma used that gun before now? Did she recently acquire it? Is it a cop gun? Is that not even her property? Is she breaking the law to protect Regina?
I think she does have a license to carry guns. She took one to the enchanted forest, and she wanted to use it on a giant... Oh, Emma. I don't think she's breaking the law, technically speaking, but yes, she shouldn't give that gun to Regina, unless, Regina does have a license too.

- Is Henry getting a little old for this kidnapping shit? I think that it's time for him to stand up for himself. Maybe have some more action sequences. I mean he's like 15 now. And they should mention that, I think the story is treating him like he's 13 (How old is he supposed to be) and they need to realize they need to do another time jump so Henry can still look the part. Pretty soon he's going to be 20, and still acting like he's 12. :/
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Apr 21, 2015
She also used the same gun on Mal in season 1.
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Apr 21, 2015
So I didn't pay much attention to this episode because it was about Cruella and I am SO over this shit. I will eventually go back and watch it... maybe ... I don't know.

I'm with you on the whole, "pushing the person off the cliff who's threatening to kill your son isn't really murder." theory. I mean I could see it if perhaps Cruella was like, "Ha-ha Savior I was just joking I can't kill your son. I just lured you out here to mess around. My bad." And she hands Henry back over and Emma then pushes her crazy ass over the cliff, I can see that maybe making ones heart turn black....

as i said, didn't pay much attention to this episode and generally I only look up from my laptop screen when Regina is on my tv....

So rather than poke holes and fun at this episode I will go to the questions.

... Cruella: Are all your questions answered? Or are you curious about how she’s managed to bring her car from realm to realm?
I don't really care. I don't care how she crossed realms or how she got her car there either. Maybe her car is the reason she can cross realms... who knows and who cares? I have a feeling though that Cruella's story isn't over even though she went splat....

... Why hasn't Emma used that gun before now? Did she recently acquire it? Is it a cop gun? Is that not even her property? Is she breaking the law to protect Regina?

Emma's used her gun before. I believe she used her gun when she and Mary Margaret ended up in Fairy-tale land and she shot at a huge ass orge. I also believe she used it during the Frozen arch... didn't see shoot at the big Iceman thing Elsa conjured up?

It probably is a cop gun and not legally her property but if you want to get technical, neither her or David , as far as I know had any kind of training or schooling to be sheriffs.

Breaking the law for Regina is hot but apparently this is a pretty lawless town. I mean hello? you have giants running up the street, a snow queen walking barefoot and creating ice walls, an ice princess in a sparkley blue dress making snowman out of nowhere, flying monkeys, green witches, speeding, dogs running freely off their leashes... I mean the list goes on and on. So let's just decided that in Storybrooke the laws don't count.

... Is Henry getting a little old for this kidnapping shit?
As long as Regina and Emma are around that kid is going to be used as some kind of bargining chip. They will continue to kidnap him if they know they can manipulate his two mothers.
BUT, I think Henry is old enough to at last try to defend himself. I mean seriously, you're in a town where anything can and has happened, take a fucking self-defense class for god sakes!!!
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Apr 21, 2015
finally an episode that surprised me!
i think cruella deserved to die as much as cora. if snow white can be all goodness after killing cora, how can the saviour turn dark by killing a kidnapper in defence of her son?
if the story has to end, it should end with the saviour losing her no good parents. how's that for an idea?
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Apr 29, 2015
Tell me about it i really hope they get rid of the charmings.They have become seriously annoying especially the lying and cover ups,so that Emma doesn't find out what they did.
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Apr 21, 2015
Oh those Charmings..I would like to kill them off my self...two of the most useless characters in this crazy good show...
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Apr 21, 2015
And to think that they used to be somewhat interesting characters... (at least David)
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Apr 21, 2015
The Cruella storyline was interesting. Every villain pretty much has this sad sob story of why they're evil but with Cruella she was literally just "Because I wanted to be evil bruh". I also think Emma killing Cruella wasn't meant to turn her heart dark but maybe it happened to show that she honestly has the real potential to because she seemed like she had no remorse after she killed her. In the past when we see heroes kill they seem at least sad but Emma didn't.

I really can't wait for the Emma & Regina road trip because it seems like it's gonna be pretty awesome.
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Apr 21, 2015
Cruella was well done. Emma giving Regina a gun instead of her being able to go with her was just awesome. IT is so clear in their body language that they have a thing for each other. Did anyone notice the fact that Regina is wearing yellow not long after Emma told her it is one of her favourite colours? what was the point of having Hook in that episode? they could have done without him I say. He wasn't needed, so why bother having him there? Emma using her light magic o blast Cruella was great!! LOVED IT. but could have done without Hook's involvement.
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Apr 21, 2015
LOL at Jarethiltskin and at Emma's makeup xD All in all, a really solid episode. Sad Cruella had to go, I'm going to miss her crazy looks and her awesomely hoarse voice. Kudos to Victoria Smurfit.
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Apr 21, 2015
well..that was fun ..

no really i'm not being sarcastic.. it was amusing, strange, entertaining ... altogether a delightful surprise to have a character clearly dancing on the PsychoBitchFromHell end of the Evil Spectrum and loving it ..

dammitalltohell Victoria Smurfit won my heart just as she made her grand exit ..

but I do wonder where this crazy train is going..

my bleary eyes/brain recognize that we seem to be getting lessons in the Grayscale of Existence .. that all people and their behaviors are on an ever-moving gradient ranging from Fabulous to FuckedUp .. a concept I endorse .. as one of my Household Gods ( Joni Mitchell ) wrote .. " the perils of benefactors .. the blessings of parasites " ..

still not thrilled with the Author idea .. I find him to be an annoying, smarmy, slightly slimy pencil neck .. I want to grab his Magical Implements, snarl " here let me do this you idiot ! " , and push him down the cellar stairs.. which , upon reflection , is not an uncommon reaction to watching OUAT in general ..

why are/have the other characters Experiencing Their Darkness been made to look So Good Being Bad while Emma looks more and more like someone dealing with severe swine flu? ..

Maleficent clearly knows that Cruella is AnimalPowersActivate! so what on earth made her think taking dragon form was a smooth move?

Henry is long past childhood.. he needs to be in there kicking ass with the Moms .. he doesn't need to be protected.. rather he needs to be trained in tactics both mundane and magical..

I confess I'm looking forward to Emma and Lilly bashing each other around next week .. Emma's been getting on my Last Gay Nerve lately which leaves me leaning towards the Lilster..

in my celebration of the 20th day of the 4th month I again watched the video of Kate Bush's " The Sensual World " thereby receiving an epiphany .. although in the song she's referring to Molly Bloom's soliloquy from James Joyce's " Ulysess " the words " stepping out of the page into the sensual world " suddenly reminded me of all the characters of OUAT , beloved and otherwise .. how that's exactly , for good or ill , what they've been doing for us lo ! these 4 years .. i was a shade verklempt ..perhaps a tear threatened for a moment .. now forevermore in my mind the end of Once Upon A Time will be every character who ever appeared dancing with Kate Bush through the Enchanted Forest ..

hey..told you it was 4/20..

and thank you for another lovely read Ms.Sparks
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Apr 21, 2015
I confess I'm looking forward to Emma and Lily bashing each other around next week - ME TOO! I can't wait to see Lily being the badass that they say she is. And Agnes Bruckner! I CAN'T EVEN! Lol.
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Apr 21, 2015
I LOVED this episode. The fact that Cruella was a villain just because; great writing! finally someone without daddy (or mommy) issues.

I did not get the part where Cruella got the ink into her hair... I mean... not I just don´t...

Can anyone tell me why would Emma turning dark is gonna help Rumple´s heart?
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Apr 21, 2015
well it was Magic Ink :D and the ink fact is linked with the real novel about Cruella De Vil who "was expelled from school when she was young because drinking ink" (no kidding)
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Apr 21, 2015
Thank you for that piece of info. I didn't know that. It makes the story a little more interesting and less.... corny now.
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Apr 21, 2015
Can I just say that I wish Lily wrote reviews for all the shows I watch? Seriously, these reviews are probably what keeps me engaged in this show 95% of the time.
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Apr 21, 2015
Yes Lily is awesome..and funny and her write ups are hysterical...I really love her stuff...
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Apr 21, 2015
Lily as usual I love the review! Just finished watching it. Zelena and Robin ugh! Let her figure out that mess when she's done baking meatloaf and doing laundry for her sister's lover. Umm saving Robin? As if...
Now this "heroes don't kill" line, are they serious? Heroes kill all the times. THEY KILL VILLAINS!!! OUAT what are you taking us for? You made Cruella De Vil ( parents can so cruel) a sociopath stuck in the eternal 1920's realm then you want us to believe that killing her will turn Emma evil?
Is Rumple going to shake Cruella's hair and scrape her face to get so e ink??? LOL
Should we speculate on Maleficent's baby daddy?
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Apr 22, 2015
I am convinced Maleficent was somehow impregnated by the True Love Potion that Charming shoved down her throat.
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Apr 21, 2015
Okay! Maleficent's baby daddy is Neil. He's everybody's baby daddy.

Okay for reals now:

A: No babydaddy at all (like Darth Vader)
B: Some guy we never met (can you say "guest star" kids?)
C: Prince Phillip / Auroras father (Not Aurora's husband, her mother's husband)
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Apr 22, 2015
B seems the most likely. They do love bringing on new characters for a an ep or two and then enver mentioning them again.
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Apr 21, 2015
I'm surprised people are still taking this show seriously after last episode's Vince McMahon style reveal.

IT WAS ME REGINA, IT WAS ME ALL ALONG
EVEN MY IMMEDIATE FAMILY BOUGHT IT
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Apr 21, 2015
I haven't taken this show seriously for years. It's sadly one of the things I like about this show. It takes itself SO seriously you really just can't. It's utterly ridiculous in all the ways I enjoy poking fun at things. It's a win/win for me.
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Apr 21, 2015
That Rumple-as-Jareth cap is a thing of beauty.
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Apr 21, 2015
Anyone clear on how Cruella killed husbands no. 2 and 3 if she was locked in the attic?
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Apr 22, 2015
If you notice she only got locked in the attic aFTER number 3.. I think...
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Apr 24, 2015
You'd think mom would have locked in the attic after the second one....
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Apr 21, 2015
Let's not go there. Otherwise we will have to ask how she managed to skin two dalmatians and make a fur coat out of them in less than a few hours...
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Apr 24, 2015
Magic. Because the hides would have taken more than a day just to cure and tan.
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Apr 21, 2015
I had the same thought
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Apr 21, 2015
-How can Rumple turn Emma dark if her parents jumped through all those hoops to keep her good? Does that spell become defunct now?
-How did the author suddenly know the "end of the story?" Was he bluffing?
-How will turning Emma dark fix Gold's heart? Hearts on this show are such nonsense. Also, everything else is nonsense.

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Apr 21, 2015
It you think about it, her parents ensuring Emma's goodness wasn't the sorcerer's doing at all, since that's the reason the author was banished to the page. It made a good story.
Thus, you could assume it didn't ensure her goodness at all and most if not all of it was a lie from the author. :)
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Apr 21, 2015
I thought that if the author wrote it, it was true.
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Apr 21, 2015
If Gold didn't know that the author and Cruella knew each other, then it stands to reason that he didn't know Cruella was incapable of killing. And if that's the case, then how could he have used that fact in his plan to turn Emma dark? How did he predict that Cruella was going to get unhinged at the sight of the Author and freak out and kidnap Henry, prompting murder?
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Apr 21, 2015
I don't think he did plan it. I think he just took advantage of the situation already brewing by the time he learned that Cruella couldn't kill anyone. Like I'm sure he didn't plan to suck Emma into the hat in 4A, but hey, when opportunity falls into his lap, he rolls with it.
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Apr 21, 2015
I have to agree here.
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Apr 21, 2015
I didn't watch the episode but this review is hysterical. Seriously, what even is this show?
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Apr 21, 2015
1) How did Regina get away from Gold?

2) Why would anyone even think that what Emma did wasn't defense of her child? Even if Cruella hadn't shot Henry, he was close enough to the edge of the cliff to fall over by fighting off Cruella. No jury in the world would convict! Hell, they DA and police would probably applaud her actions.

3) Is Regina ever going to give Belle's heart back?

4) Hey Snow and David, how'd that damning an unborn child to evil work out for you? Was it really worth it?
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Apr 21, 2015
1. Yes, how did that happen exactly? I think the writers are getting a little.... lost...
2. Agreed. 100% defendable. Typical hostage situation.
3. I think not, at least not until she resolves the Z situation. That is her only leverage against Rumple at this point. Poor Belle should really be used to being manipulated by magic users at this point...
4. Can't wait to see dark Lily soon.
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Ok correct me if am wrong regina is planning to leave storybrooke for robin right one question woman where do your priorities lie your son just saw his very short life flash before his eyes and you are about to leave him behind to go find f*ing robin hood I hope you plan on taking him with you because I know if a gun was held to my head by a person I know won't hesitate to kill me and I survived you would have to use a bulldozer to unglue me from my mother for a week after the event . And why does emma look so death
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Apr 21, 2015
Regina was planning on leaving before they found out Henry was in danger, who knows what her plans are now? Before that she must have thought that he would be safe with Emma, David, and Snow or at least that Gold would not kill his own grandson.

As for Henry now, remember this kid has had his life threatened a few times already, even faced death a few times. He has been hardened over the years and I think he would be fine with Regina going after Robin Hood since he is her happy ending an that has been what Henry has been working for. He might only be conflicted now that Emma is in danger and Henry might need Regina to help save her but otherwise I think he is all for Regina going to New York.
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Apr 21, 2015
Off the cuff; I loved the fact that Cruella was "bad blood"- it was so staunchly "stiff upper lip and old school tie" Brit, harking to the earliest Agatha Christie/ Dorothy L. Sayers version of London in the "Careless 20s" (have you ever seen "Love for Lydia"? That's what Cruella's non-murderous peers were doing while she languished in the attic). When she disappeared, I thought Isaac would find Cruella having a smoke with one of the jazz musicians she idolized.

When I realized she was sewing the dalmation coat, I couldn't stop laughing. Cruella obviously getting her start in fashion design!

Chernabog wouldn't have taken Cruella- she had pretty much reached her potential for darkness at an early age. But she was able to save Mal (oddly the least corrupted of the 3, perhaps because of her love for her child?) because he didn't pay her any mind

Now, on to the comments!
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Apr 21, 2015
Okay, I just finished watching the whole episode today because I missed over half of it Sunday. An interesting scene is when Regina uses Belle's heart to controlled Belle into talking with Gold. So, it seemed Regina was intending to keep Belle's heart with her on her journey to New York. Of course the whole Cruella stealing Henry thing happened so she couldn't go to NY as of yet but...if she had gone I could totally see her laying Belle's heart by an open window sill for a second. The heart falls out, lands on the sidewalk, gets kicked around by a few peeps and ends up falling down a sewer. Then gets pushed around by some rats if not snapped at by some of them, almost eaten by a croc (just for an urban legend joke's sake, Rumps reference) and finally ends up in the hands of either Robin Hood or worse Zelina. Poor Belle's heart would turn black by no fault of her own. lol!

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Apr 21, 2015
I'm actually wondering if that is Belle's Heart at all. Belle could have let Regina take her heart but it could be that it is another heart from Regina's vault and Belle is just acting to fool Gold.

I have a feeling it is a ruse that Belle and Regina are pulling on Gold. For one Regina has probably come to the point that she wouldn't take the chance with Belle's life even for Robin but, as we have seen, she has been smart enough to outwit Gold and with Belle's help is fooling him without putting Belle in danger.
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Apr 21, 2015
Yeah, you're probably right but that just makes it hurt worse that Belle actually said those things to Gold without being under the influence. The writers seem to love to squeeze the hearts of it's RumBelle fans.
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Apr 21, 2015
I dont even watch this show anymore, but I cant help reading your reviews Lily, I just laugh so effin hard hahahahaha! Anyway, see you next week! :D
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Apr 21, 2015
Sooo...

Question 1: Where the hell did Regina and Hook go after figuring out they were tricked? Regina can poof in anywhere she wants like next to Emma and Hook is solid tracker, so how in the world did the Charmings beat them to Emma? Did Hook and Regina meet up with the conch shells and decided to play a version of Marco Polo? Or prank some of the random fairytale character extras with the shells? Were they simply hungry and after meeting up again decided to get a bite to eat at Granny's?

Question 2: Why was the Author wanting to write a story about dogs? Why was the Author even there at all?

Question 3: How is saving your child from a known murdered who is threatening to murder your child while currently standing at the edge of a convenient CGI cliff with a gun to your child's head evil? Sounds like the same heroic stuff the Charmings go on and on about as they snatch up babies and shoot them through portals. Also, even if Cruella couldn't kill Henry, Emma didn't know that. All she knew was a psycho murderer wanted to kill her son.

Question 4: Why would Cruella, who knew Gold was trying to turn Emma dark and that Emma would do anything to protect her son, stand with her back to a CGI cliff and hold a gun to Emma son's head while saying, "I'll kill him. I'll do it. Put away your incredibly strong magic or I'll kill your son."?

Question 5: How have the Charmings made it this far? Like seriously, though, how?

Question 6: If the Author was locked away in the book and couldn't write any stories, who was writing the stories? Like if the Author was powerless in the book, why couldn't Regina pull an August and write what she wanted and put it in the book? How were the villains still forced to live by the rules of the Author if the Author couldn't write? Why wouldn't trapping him the book make more sense than turning the Savior dark?

I loved that Regina automatically did the right thing and that Belle immediately caught on and was ready to help. Seriously, Regina makes a better hero than like 99.99% of the heroes.Though, Regina and Hook needed to stop pretending like they weren't grateful Emma made the Charmings stay behind. Seriously, you guys, both of you know that them snatching up Maleficent's child had nothing to do with Emma grounding her parents. It was just a very convenient and obvious excuse that was readily available. Though, all Emma had to do to get them to shut up was turn around and say," Oh, did you want me to invite them along? Because I can still call them."
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Apr 22, 2015
LOL @ question no 1... (I am now daydreaming a scenario with Regina/Hook @ Granny's, thanks for that image!) but yeah that didn't make any sense at all! What was even more fun for me was to imagine Rumple thinking this plan through, just going like 'right, so, obvs, The Savior will leave her parents at home, decide to bring Regina and Hook and no one else, and she will walk in the middle with Hook to her left and Regina to her right. Right and as I need them to split up I will have to put my modified and personalized ReginaConch somewhere over there at that bush and then half a mile that way I'll take the HookShell and put it over there and then Henry will walk through there... right yes, sound plan' Genius man, that Rumple :D
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Apr 22, 2015
"If the Author was locked away in the book and couldn't write any stories, who was writing the stories?" From what I get, the Author job was to record the stories that happened, even though he could change them if he wanted. So without the Author, things would keep going in the same "line of thought"
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Apr 21, 2015
My take on #6- Gold had both pen and ink (squid ink? or something more esoteric?), so he must have tried to write his own happy ending and it didn't work. To make the Dark One good, someone had to go bad to maintain the balance. Only Emma was powerful enough to accomplish this.
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Apr 21, 2015
I think that's the answer the show is trying to convey.

But.... how did the author make the Charming's do such an evil thing (pretty freaking evil and out of character) without balancing that out somewhere???
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Apr 21, 2015
Maybe Maleficent being good? I dunno
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Apr 21, 2015
Wow, that made sense. Thanks!
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Apr 21, 2015
Why does everyone think that there is more to the Regina/Emma relationship? One person believes this then everyone else has to believe it too? I have watched this show from the start and the only time I believed it was a little odd was the episode of Emma and Lily as teens. I have no issue with gay couples but why is it two people of the same sex can't have anything but a platonic relationship? In all honesty, am I missing something?
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Apr 23, 2015
The author of this blog is a SwanQueen shipper.
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Apr 22, 2015
Ignoring the incoherent part of your comment, many people ship Swan Queen because that would make a great story. The Savior that saves the Evil Queen and the other way around, using their magic to bring peace to the kingdoms and raise their kid together. It's subversive to traditional fairy tales but it keeps their point that is true love and hope.
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Apr 21, 2015
Girl yes. I mean why do people think that any opposite sex pairing has to get together. I mean straight men and women can have a PLATONIC relationship together without getting together. Don't get me wrong I have no issue with heterosexual relationships, especially considering that I am straight. However I just don't understand why some people don't believe that a straight man and straight woman cannot just be PLATONIC FRIENDS. I have seen many shows ruined trying force a relationship just because the characters were man and woman. Men and Women can be just PLATONIC FRIENDS. It happens everyday in real life.
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Apr 21, 2015
Because Lily ships them. But that doesn't mean you have to ship them too. Come on, ship and let ship!
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Apr 21, 2015
I meant... Why can't people of the same sex have JUST a platonic relationship?
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Apr 21, 2015
Plenty of same sex characters can have platonic relationships... just not this one (for some fans)!
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Apr 21, 2015
You say that like TV is full of gay couples or something. the majority of relationships between people of the same sex on TV are platonic. Regina and Emma's relationship IS platonic in canon. People shipping Swan Queen doesn't take away from that in any way, so I'm not entirely sure what the problem is.
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