Once Upon a Time "Tallahassee" Review: No Honor Among Theives

Once Upon a Time S02E06: "Tallahassee"


So last week I got very angry at Once Upon a Time. I didn't grind my teeth so hard that my veneers flew out of my mouth like popping corn, but then again I don't have veneers. In the 500+ comments on my review, there was a singular refrain of, "Don't over-think this show. Enjoy it for what it is and don't question it."

Usually I turn red about the face and shout about "I like entertainment that engages my brain, not requires me to shut it off," etc. etc. But when faced with the choice of hate-watching a show or managing my expectations, this is actually very zen advice. As one Price Peterson pointed out to me, shows that make a big game of slooowly revealing some huge solution don't have a solution at the outset. They can buy time until their network decides to cancel/end them by throwing in provocative, hinty details, but they don't have any more of a destination than a rollercoaster. Lost strung people along for many years, keeping things interesting until it was time to call it quits, then provided an emotionally fulfilling ending. Battlestar Galactica, one of my all-time favorite series, sowed the seeds of a complex mystery early on but didn't stitch everything together until the writers got word they had only one more season. Would I take back the experience of watching BSG? Nope. However, let's put down the burden of two expectations before we go any further in trying to enjoy this show—pretenses that perhaps only I have been holding onto.

1. Network shows are not always made by passionate writers trying to tell a story despite the necessary evil that is a commercial filter. No, these writers are sophisticated admen who have the job of getting a larger commercial message (REMEMBER DISNEY PROPERTIES? BUY DISNEY PROPERTIES!) into a semi-cohesive story structure. So let's stop judging them on plot or meaning and start judging them on how dazzling their product is. No point in asking physics questions at a beauty pageant.

2. This show will lose points every time it tries to insinuate that there is a larger logic at play here than "let's get five or six seasons." The world is going to shift to accomodate whatever properties OUaT is told to highlight or characters it wants to give work to (Hi, Hurley!), and any little detail, moment, or insinuation of a larger, unifying story will get get my deepest contempt. "Look closely! What's that in Mr. Gold's shop?! Hint hint hint!" is just plain rude. (Speculate all you want in comments, though! This series as imagined by comments is frequently more fun and cohesive than as told by ABC.) At the end of the day, this is a show about character development, and to the extent they honor that they succeed in entertaining me.

Okay, so with that criteria in mind, last night's episode, "Tallahassee," was excellent. Seriously excellent! Sooo much character development. Aside from proving that Hook is a delightful erotic adventurer whose eyeliner can barely contain his sultry glances, we got a delightful backstory on teenage Emma.

Quick math: Emma was 28 at the start of the series, Henry is at least 10, so Emma here had to be no older than 18. And wearing specs! And stealing cars! And getting in Bonnie-and-Clyde relationships with homeless guys living in stolen cars! Gypsies, tramps, and thieves are just some of the things you could call these two, running in and out of hotel rooms to steal showers, making dirty love in dirty backseats, dreaming of moving to FLORIDA, obviously. 

It was 2002 and that was what teens did back then: Live in parks and steal candy bars. Eff with the law. Look like they're in their thirties via hard living. Get really scared by "wanted" ads up in the post office. Decide to escape to Canada.

It was very cute. While Jennifer Morrison didn't quite convince me she was 18 (a miniskirt and corn rows would have helped), Emma did project a youthful joie de vivre we haven't seen her display since she got contacts. Unfortunately their crime spree-fueled relocation to Florida was cut short by a certain hardwood cock blocker who'd been lurking in the shadows all along.

In a continuation of a running theme of this show, August talked Neil—someone very much in love with his partner—into never seeing them again. (Previous examples: King George gets Snow to tell Charming she doesn't love him, Blue Fairy convinces Grumpy to dump clumsy fairy Amy Acker, Charming stands up Mary Margaret at the Toll Bridge, etc.)

That's right, why not make a life-altering decision based on a quick conversation with a total stranger? And why bother explaining your reasoning to your partner or talking it through with them? Noble people simply don't talk through the idea of abandoning their loved ones. Impeccable emotional logic!

August, who flat-out said he was stalking Emma, convinced Neil to leave what we are to assume was the most important relationship in his life, got him to agree to abandon Emma without so much as a parting text, and then presumably called in a sting on Emma. Thanks August! You deserve to become a spindly human marrionette, August. So how did August manage to get Neil to abandon Emma without so much as a backwards glance within five minutes of meeting him? Well, he showed Neil a [BLANK]. Do you care to speculate what [BLANK] was? Feel free, but I am confident the writers have no idea. They'll figure it out if and when they need to.

Neal also proved he is as dumb if not moreso than Emma, walking away from his lady love knowing some stranger was sending her to jail and then meeting August later to turn over a giant wad of cash. I think we all know Emma never got that cash because August is a bad bad boy who has a pricy antique typewriter addiction to feed and ASOS neck scarves to buy (by the bundle).

Meanwhile, in FTL, Aurora and Snow bonded over having gone through the sleeping curse. This was super endearing. I always suspected Snow White and Sleeping Beauty would have a ton to talk about (threadcount, bed sores, drymouth). How genuinely touching that Snow connected with Aurora and told her to take a nap while she stood guard. Of course, being the snip-haired rascal she is, Snow then punked Aurora by letting her roll around the ground in a nightmarish fever dream fit for about ten minutes before waking her up.

(For someone who hates sleeping, Aurora sure wears a lot of bedsheets!) A panicked Aurora described a haunting nightmare she'd had about a red room. So obviously, there's going to be a Jane Eyre dimension and I'm already excited about. Maybe they can get a cameo by Jeremy Sisto as Mr.Rochester! Or maybe it will be a 666 Park Avenue tie-in? Of course, Henry would have the same dream later in the episode, so it's kind of funny to imagine those two characters seeing each other in a dream and losing their minds. "A LITTLE BOY!" "A LADY WRAPPED UP IN A DUVET COVER!" etc.

So if the writers get stuck figuring how to get Snow and Emma out of FTL, I guess they can always dream-beam them across.

In a shockingly well CGI'd sequence, Emma retrieved the compass needed for, you know, portal-finding or whatever (don't care) and had a meaningful heart-to-heart with Lost alum Jorge Garcia. Did Jorge need to make a few mortgage payments and so contacted Kitsis & Horowitz, or is this giants/beanstalk sub plot tied to something more relevant, some more pressing property that needs reviving—like, say, Disney's upcoming movie adaptation of Broadway sensation Into the Woods?

Hook and Emma genuinely sizzled together, sex-magic wise, and I loved their conversations while they tiptoed around a Giant's savings account of solid gold ashtrays or whathaveyou. Hook very perceptively called out Emma's foster past based on a mere four-mile beanstalk climb. It's funny how one of Emma's defining traits is her burning hatred toward the foster system and parent abandonment—remember when she hissed, "At least we would have been together!" when Snow explained that she'd been trying to save Emma's life by putting her in the magic armoire?—yet she couldn't drop Henry off fast enough into the waiting arms of an unknown adoptive parent. "The foster system almost killed me! How fast can I sign over my baby?" Oh well, 18-year-olds, they make hasty decisions, forget to deep condition, etc.

Altogether, this week's episode was miles above (beanstalks above!) last week's. Who can resist Michael Raymond-James in any form? We finally got the backstory on Henry's dad (and it was a far cry from Emma's revisionist history about slippin' and slidin' on old pancakes with a firefighter), who if not actually Baelfire is just a regular ol' dude who believes in magic and mysticism and leavin’ his lady. JK he is obviously Neal Cassidy, a reference to the beat poet heavily featured in On the Road (hence all the Kerouac allusions the first time we met him). The Beat Generation is now a dimension, guys! That's just great. Is Disney going to buy distribution rights for the Kristen Stewart film that just came out? (Have they already?) Ear to the ground, mouseketeers!

So, in brief:

PRODUCT PLACEMENT: Four out of five stars (Into the Woods tie-in; Shadow of the Colossus shout-out—a Sony property but Sony and Disney are cozy; a heavily featured Swan “keychain” emblem necklace in Facebook banner ads from late 2011 through the current day)

CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT: Four out of five stars (Snow and Aurora; Emma’s love story; and Emma and Hook’s budding chemistry—seriously enjoyable)

RAZZLE DAZZLE/KEEPING ME ENTERTAINED: Four out of five stars (The CGI was tremendous this episode, well done. I do love some shiny gold in the frame.)

ANNOYING REFERENCES TO BIGGER STORY: Negative four stars out of a possible five stars. (August’s Plot Coupon/placeholder in a box. Way to give yourselves a get-Emma-into-jail-free card, you jokesters.)

FINAL SCORE: Eight stars out of twenty!



But what did YOU think?


QUESTIONS:

1. Is Disneyland selling copies of Snow's dress or merely putting them on display?

2. How did you feel about Lost's ending as it pertained to the rest of the series?

3. Would two Star War fans from different countires have more to talk about, probably, than a Winnie the Pooh-obsessed person and a Star Wars fan who grew up in the same town?

4. Why are we shocked when corporations buy properties we love with very defined identities, what is the fear there?

5. Do you think Africa via The Lion King will turn up as another dimension?

6. What Disney property is the red room an allusion to?

7. What did you think of this week's episode?

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The single biggest problem with this episode? 10 hours. Seriously, 10 hours?? Maybe they didn't realise what the CGI guys had in mind. But I would want 10 hours just to climb that thing, let alone steal a compass and climb back down! Other than that, going back and watching this ep. you can really see them heading for Neverland...
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Emma-Hook <3 !!!!!!!!!!!
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This episode further confirms my theory about Neil/Neal being Bae- maybe August convinced him to abandon Emma via offering a 'cure' for his father Gold/Rumpelstiltskin or a supposedly surefire avenue to finding a 'cure'.
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The Lost ending was HORRIFYING! (yes I used capital letters) After watching it for so long the ending made me so angry that I nearly threw my tv out the window. As for anything else... I thought this weeks episode was cool. I was expecting more evilish stuff from Henry's dad. Because if we're seriously honest, Emma complained to Mary Margaret that she lied to Henry because she felt that his father was someone so bad that she didn't want him to have any influence on Henry's life. so what was so bad about him? Really? Apart from the fact he abandoned Emma (which a lot of guys have abandoned their GF's, even when they weren't on the run from the cops) what was SOOOO bad about him. Petty theft was something Emma used to do herself so it can't be that. Anywho, I'm over analysing. I would like to know what ultimate Cock Block, August's plot device was, but I get the feeling I will NEVER find out. So I won't think too hard on it. August stalking Emma was actually a little bit of a shock factor considering that he abandoned her and said he was rolling round the world having fun. So what exactly happened there? I shouldn't really have been surprised at all. I mean Pinnocchio lies all the time. LOL! Anywho, I shall now be going to watch the next episode before my eyes explode after my eye surgery, which means I really shouldn't be on a computer. However I couldn't resist reading Lily's review for last week's ep (never a disappointment reading your reviews Lily) so now I've made my comment for the week I'm off.
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If Emma's job was to find people, how come she never found her ex-bf? Or maybe she did't want to?
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One question keeps bothering me, beyond "what's in the damn box". And that question is "Why August showed up in that very moment?" I keep thinking someone is behind August's actions, and I strongly believe this is the Blue Fairy. She started it all, and I simply don't trust her, nun or not. How did August know that the knife would control Rump? Why did he mess with Emma's life when he was not becoming wood at the time? And then show up again 10 years later? He told Henry he didn't write his book, so who did? At least I think this questions will be answered sooner or later.
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"Plot Coupon" almost fell over laughing at that one. So true. So very,very true.

I thought Emma looked the cutest in the flashbacks. I was totally digging the funky look she had going with the dress and the glasses. Cuteness. JenMo did pull off that youthfulness quite well and it really was nice to see a bit of flashback there.

-I likes me some Hook 'em Swan chemistry. I mean they did seem to have the sexual tension and sizzles going, but I mostly enjoyed how perceptive Hook is and how Emma tries to hide her discomfort and stay guarded. It's a nice push-pull between them that isn't overthought out.. Emma seems to have some sort of chemistry with practically all of these mystery men. Graham, August, dare I mention the Jefferson...I don't know, but nevertheless it was entertaining. Enough so that I was kinda miffed when she left Hook hanging. I'd have kept him close just because it's easier to keep an eye on him and you can get more out of him if he thinks you're at a truce, versus making an unnecessary enemy. That's just me though. But I guess I respect Emma trying to not get distracted by the Hookness.

I still don't like Aurora. She really does look like she's trudging around in bedsheets. But her moments with Snow were nice.

August...just ROFL! dude.

It was a better episode than last week.
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I imagine fairytale characters doing impossible things, after all they are (I'm guessing) magical in some way. But is Emma a super athlete? I mean, considering she climbed all the way to the clouds... She must be an accomplished mountain climber... in steroids. And she's very lucky that in FTL the air doesn't get thin after a certain altitude.
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Remember the magical cuff Hook got from Cora? Sounds like a spell to me.
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So Emma stole a yellow VW Beetle in Portland... OMG! She stole Monroe's car! (from Grimm...)

So that means Emma has been driving the same crappy car for the last ten years? And she decided to steal the crappiest car she could find, and there was a guy already living in the crappiest stolen car in Portland? How low can a car thieve even get?
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What's in the box?

Snow going toe to toe with Mulan, fun!

Loved your star-rating system - hope to see it each review.
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This episode was awesome

OUaT is the best show on the air this days

OUaT is Lost without the boring parts every flashback is a peace of a puzzle and do see it go in a clear direction not like Lost throwing in the wind mystery after mystery and not providing any answers (oh I forget it is all because of some rock in the middle of the island)

"Lost emotional ending" give me a break it was the biggest cop-out on TV history

Lost string us along for six season when just told all the important parts in two maybe three seasons.
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Oh and one more thing

Lost maybe the first show to use the flashback element in every episode

but

Ouat use it wisely and show us only the parts that really matters

Out of all the show I seen (Lost, Flash Forward, Revolution,Fringe) Ouat use it the best
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There's no way Emma looked 18 in the episode. If anything, with glasses and ponytail she looked like an older librarian, and a stoned one considering that reckless behavior. That was totally unconvincing.
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She doesn't look like 28 either.
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The red room has something to do with the Queen of Hearts as the Episode Guide shows.



Maybe there was a Fairy in the little box!



Just wondering, how does it make sense that August is the reason why Emma went to jail, but is not the reason why she went to StoryBrooke to break the spell? Henry found Emma after years and asked her to go with him. So, if Emma stayed with Neal and delivered Henry she could've went back earlier to break the spell. Unless August had everything perfectly planned and he knew that she was pregnant and that she was going to deliver a baby and give him away for adoption (by Regina) where Snow White found him a lonely boy and decided to give him the Story Book, so he can find his mother so she can break the spell! Why didn't August just show Emma whatever he showed Neal to get her to believe him and go break the curse? ghrr
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I was never a huge fan of August, but after this episode I'm 500% done with him. Though I do have to say I loved the implied parallel between Emma and Regina here. That they both became who they are (a monster and a savior) because other people wanted them to become that way and manipulated their lives in such a way there was no other outcome possible.



I'm really quite curious as to what is in that box, what could August have shown to Neal to convince him to leave his girlfriend behind, in jail and just run off.



(Spoiler alert) I have read somewhere that they do somehow find a way to communicate between worlds and that it will require a sacrifice from Snowing's side.. I somehow think this is how they will communicate. That... or Cora did some weird magic that will cause a whole lot of trouble.



If Neal turns out to be Bae... well... I won't like it. Too many coincidences... I won't fall for it.



I'm not sure how I felt about this episode.. I kinda liked the character development going on... But I'm a bit disappointed in Emma's back story, to be honest. I had expected something worse to have happened to her that made her the tough bitch she is...
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If people have a problem with Lily's reviews of the show, why keep coming back week after week to read them? I don't always agree with Lily's reviews but she always gives good reasons for how she feels. Every time Lily writes something people disagree with, they want to whine about it. What's the point? When I don't like something, I stay away from it. Simple. Life would be so boring if everyone agreed on everything.
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Amen
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I thoroughly enjoyed this episode. Much better than last week's. I was actually expecting Snow to tell Aurura that she'd dreamt the same thing. I'm still expecting her to say that in the future. For some reason, she didn't admit it. Maybe she didn't want to scare Aurora. Just a thought.
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I agree with you about the writers not knowing what August showed Neil. They have NO CLUE. If August had something magical that could convince a man to leave the woman he loves, then August could have shown whatever that was to Emma to make her believe. Since August turned into (petrified) wood, this tells me that the writers just came up with this magical thing that Neil was shown.
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I found the Frankenstein story much cooler and more interesting than this one. Non-fairy tale flashbacks simply don't have the same... magic.

When giant Hurley was trapped I thought he was going to say "Hey, dude, that was not fair," or something Hurley would've said.
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"7. What did you think of this week's episode?" Let me put it this way: If Grimm's Captain Renard would ever told the Grimm he's no good for Juliette, there's a snowball in hell Nick would dump her. This is what's wrong with this show!
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(1) August must have sent Neal the postcard from Storybrooke in "Broken." How long will it take Neal to show up in Maine?

(2) If Neal turns out to be Bael, then Mr. Gold and Prince Charming are both Henry's grandparents. Henry (Jared Gilmore) doesn't look anything like a child of Emma and Neal, but he might have a family resemblance to Mr Gold.

(3) Plot coupon. Does August think Neal=Bael? I'm guessing No (why would he?), and that August showed Neal the storybook (made by August) containing the part of the story where Emma breaks the curse. Don't know why Neal w/h/been persuaded by it. Hypnosis?

(4) August clearly used Neal's cash to have a good time in Thailand. Funny that, having found Emma, August didn't return in time to be her friend after jail and persuade her. Yet he knew she had made it to Storybrooke, where Henry had already read the storybook (sent by August to MM).

(5) How does August keep track of Neal to send postcard? (He doesn't-- it was a magic bird of his desire that arrived at the intended destination). Where is August getting his magic from?

(6) Why didn't August find Gepetto after the curse was broken? Was he ashamed?



August and Mr. Gold are both defined by their weakness.

I'd rather see more of August than Hook.

I love seeing Emma's superpower at work.

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6) I'm not sure where August is right now- Storybrooke or Outside. Maybe he did go talk to Gepetto and the writers aren't showing that either!



5) "Magic bird of my desire" reminds me of Corwin of Amber (love Roger Zelazny!)But I wonder if the dove was Mr Dove, Gold's Storybrooke henchman, in his pre-Curse form. (This was teased earlier.) That might mean that Rumplestiltskin sent him, for whatever reason. Maybe that's why he was standing at the border of Storybrooke at the end of "We Are Both"?

If my friend is right, and Emma was sent out of FTL as a lure to Bae, then they got together because of Rumplestiltskin's setup of the Curse. Convoluted, but I can't disprove it. So guess who's the big winner when Neal comes to Storybrooke? Pinocchio may not have known who Baelfire was, but August might- my personal theory is that August spent his years in this world looking for a way back to Gepetto, which might have led down some very dark paths.





4) If August kept an eye on Emma from afar, she might have accidently done something which made him think she was heading in the proper direction for the Savior's destiny. Or maybe he lost track of time.
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Love Roger Zelazny too ! Now there's someone who could hold plot threads together! Wish he was still around to help these writers out.



I think August is one of the most interesting characters on the show. I also think he's one of the central keys to the story. Can't wait to see more of him.
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I have to admit that right now I don't feel like wading through the comments, there's too many of them, so I'm sorry if someone has already pointed out that Emma totally looked like a hipster when she was in Portland. Nice touch, costume department.



After speeding through the first season in a couple days and now catching up on the second, I have to say, I prefer this season! Way better now that they have their memories back! Tho we are only 6 episodes in, so the showrunners have time to royally screw everything up.
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1. I hope Disneyland is selling that dress...I want! D:

2. The red room just kept reminding me of The Shining or something...I'm not sure why. I just kept picturing the blood pouring out of the elevator. After that I thought about Bluebeard, but he's kinda morbid for OUAT so I dunno.

3. I personally loved this week's episode, if only for the character development. I want MM to be my aunt or something, she is such a great mother. Seeing her with Snow and Aurora was so touching, LOVE HER. I enjoyed learning about Emma's past too, and I really like Neal. I'm iffy on the weird retcon of August into their lives, but I liked the episode so much I could ignore that!

4. Loved the shoutouts to LOST actually as well, including the Apollo candybars, and Jorge Garcia. He wasn't scary at all, he was just Hurley too me, but that's ok, because I find him so charming that it didn't really matter (I'm obviously a huge Hurley fan).

5. Personally, I'm in the camp that loved the LOST ending. I also prescribe to the view that they WEREN'T dead all along, but I really don't want to get into that here because it will take too long to write out, but I maintain that "whatever happened, happened."

LOST for me, was never about the mystery. Well I mean, that aspect of it was really cool and super compelling, but for me, it really was all about the characters. Life on the island, to me, wasn't just about getting another candidate, but it was about having a second chance to meet the people that would matter most in their lives. That's why I kind of think all the characters had daddy issues--they were rejected by a father, patriarchal society, and I think some form of God in a way. These people were hopeless, and the island gave it back to them.

I mean in Kate you had a character who could never stop running, and in the end found a reason to stay, protect her friends, protect Aaron. In Jack, you have someone who was never satisfied, always unhappy, always looking for some way to fix everything; in the end, he learned to just let go.

All in all, I think that the message of the ending was really poignant. I think all we, as people, want, is to find that place where we belong, and the people you care about. The idea that these people were so important to each other that they created a limbo in which they could find and move on together was so touching. Obviously, I'm in the camp of people that can't hold themselves together when they see the finale. I'm also a huge sap and sentimentalist, but this is just my opinion :P

That's why I don't mind at all about the LOST shoutouts, because thematically I think they're really similar shows. Before everyone gets all: HOW COULD THEY POSSIBLY BE THE SAME, just hear me out. i think I read somewhere that OUAT is all about redemption. In Storybrooke you have all these people who are physically, and emotionally lost: they don't know themselves. The arrival of Emma and the breaking of the curse, is a second chance for them to find each other again, to get back with the people who matter most to them. What I find probably most interesting about OUAT, is that, it's more overtly about redemption. Whereas nearly every character on LOST had the worst father ever, in OUAT you have all these characters striving to be good parents. Yes, they make horrible mistakes, and often abandon their children, but they never stop looking, or trying. I love how OUAT is an exploration on the relationship of parent and child--and how unlike LOST, it's about parents who choose to love their children.



Anyways that was my incomprehensible rant about why I love LOST and OUAT, hope it somewhat made sense haha.
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One of the interviews with Kitsis and Horowitz mentioned they'd first discussed OUaT in 2004, during a break from scripting LOST- not surprising that they're thematically similar. In a way, they're flip sides of the same coin. But I hope they stick with myths and magic rather than philosophy and religion. Go dragons!
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OUAT really missed an opportunity for high comedy in the Emma flashback. Know what would have been funny? A young Emma with short dyed black hair (could even go Emo). It would have helped make her look younger (and more like a troubled youth), and would have highlighted her facial similarities with MM. Then we could have figured out how long Emma was in jail by the amount of blonde root growth. And the final pay off? Neal. When Neal comes looking for Emma, he could run into MM first and say, "Emma?" (or better yet, follow that up with a kiss before she can answer)--giving us an epic awkward moment, MM an opportunity to give us one of her best, "Srsly? THIS guy?!" looks, and David a chance to have another Whale?! moment.
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Some of the commenters here complain about Lily's "transformation" and her change in the approach and view of the show, but I love it.

The character Lily Sparks is funny, always fresh and surprising, thoughtful, believable in her development and therefore well-written. I can't say that about OUAT, OUAT writers!
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ok, so Baelfire was sent to Neverland, where he didn't grow old for years. There, he met faieries and changed his name into Peter Pan. He became the ennemy of Hook hen the pirate ship arrived.

However for some reason he managed to travel to America, instead of London, and lacking pixie dust was stuck there. He changed his name to Neal.

When Neal comes into Storybrook (apprx at the same time as Hook), he bonds with his daddy because they have a common archennemy.



And in the box could be an illustration of him and Rumple, or of him as Peter Pan, as we know August has a connection with the book.
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Possible I guess, though I thought the Blue Fairy said she would send Baelfire to a place that did NOT have magic so his father would be normal. And that there was NO way to go there via normal means, while we've seen (and heard) of ways going to magical realms.

BUT... your explanation would solve the time issue. Baelfire was lost during the Ogre wars (or whatever) which were supposed a really long time ago. And it took Rumple many many MANY years (centuries?) to get everything set up just right. So Neverland would've let Baelfire live long enough for Rumple to find him, but according to the Blue Ferry the destination had no magic and Neverland had some.
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hum... you're actually right... So, Baelfire was sent to the ISLAND (of Lost) which would become Neverland.



ok, just kidding.



Maybe neverland was not magic for a few years. It was just a regular island, in North America, with Native Americans. In the 16th c. There, Bael grows a bit older. let's say 19.



Then the ogre wars. The fairies know a way to go there, even though it is risky and supposedly impossible. They take refuge in the island and bring along other magic creatures (like mermaids). As a protection spell, they manage to get the place immune to time



There must be some kind of pixie dust that allows people to fly and open portals to other periods/places. With it, Peter goes to America and London in other periods of time and rescue orphans (like his dad), because he is now convinced that it's better to live on your own, free : The Lost Children.

And in the US 40s, he embodies Neal Cassady (to join Lily's theory) whenever he goes.

And at one point, Hook arrives, war in Neverland, the fairies go back to FTL to help build the magic wardrobe, Hook kills the children, Peter flees with the little pixie dust he has, to 1998. Goes back to his Neal Cassady identity. And he meets Emma a few years later.



Is it better ?
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I don't know, I think this guy is definitely Neal Cassady, which means he had to have been on earth at the very latest in the 40s. (On the Road)
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I love this! Very creative!
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For some reason, I think there is a tinny tiny person in that box. or a mirror that shows your death, or a doppelganer. I really wish Emma's baby daddy was Baelfire. I was really hoping I was right on that one. boo. But what is the meaning of the Hatter sign in his apt?? The red room might have something to do with Regina (well duh right?) or Malceficent?? (Isn't there a new movie out, tie in!)
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I was thinking it could be Tinkerbell in the box and they would use that to tie Neal / Baelfire in with the Hook / Crocodile / Peter Pan storyline.
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I was thinking that too. I mean, whatever was in the box was supposed to make it easy for him to believe in curses and the fairy tale world. There's no way an inanimate object can do that, but an actual living creature that he recognizes from books and movies...
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Be sure to copyright these ideas as the writers will no doubt start frantically google searching right around midseason and they might use any or all of these.

personally i think it will be a magical hand mirror-cum-portal that they can sell as a toy, but since we know Pinochhio came through the tree with just Emma and her blanket, and Emma carried her blanket with her right up until storybook, maybe its just her blanket? Or Pinocchio's hat? Or a tiny fairy clear heel? Suffice to say ALL THESE IDEAS PROPERTY LILY SPARKS/ COUTTERHILL, OUAT writers TO USE THEM MEANS SWIFT LEGAL ACTION.
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Lily I guess you are suffering from De-Evil-ification of regina just as me and the show is....we need evil regina to make sense of everything that is OUaT.



Here's my theory on the box : Neil is baefire (nothing new about it) and what he saw in the box was Rumplestiltskin's Dagger which he obviously recognises, thereby proving that August's crazy a** magic story is infact true.

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Except, Mr. Gold has the dagger.
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Anybody else notice that the stolen Apollo candy bars are the same brand as those that appeared on Giant Hurley's Lost? Maybe this IS the next Lost. Maybe they're all dead.
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My thought upon seeing Hurley was: He's up here all alone and has only had a goose to eat in many years, and I think he's actually gained weight!
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I'll point out again. What happened on that island in LOST, actually happened. They weren't all dead.
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I think they just keep stitching in shout outs to Lost to remind everyone they authored the Single Greatest Viewing Experience in American History in their own minds. It actually infuriates me, but what else is new.
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I love the shout-outs to LOST. Nice little Easer Eggs.
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We think alike, JoshHorton. I think Lost was the Single Greatest Viewing Experience in American History, and if I had any part in it I would keep reminding everyone too!
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Except for that whole time during the 6th season when they were all dead. You know, all the things that happened off the island.
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The only time they were "dead" was the alternate reality. What happened on the island, all that time on the island, they were alive. That stuff actually happened. They weren't dead the entire time, as some people oddly believe.
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@ Emmy totally agree. "Whatever happened, happened." Me too, miss it so much. I actually loled pretty hard at Jorge Garcia as the giant though, I must admit.
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Totally agree Emmy, not to mention Jack's father even said this in the series finale!
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ya i dont know why people keep thinking that! In season 6 instead of having flashbacks or flashforwards they had moments of them being in 'Limbo' waiting for each other. If nothing on the island happened why would they wait for each other? EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED ON THE ISLAND WAS REAL! miss that show so much! :(
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I'm a pretty cynical person on most topics, but I think this article's insinuation that the entire show of Once Upon a Time is one giant plug for the Disney corporation is a little much. People always say shows, songs, movies, etc. have a "hidden message" about some issue or corporation or perspective, but I always say: why can we just enjoy a story or song for what it is? With that being said, I loved this episode. It was the third of good episodes in a row. Favorite parts of this episode: Emma and Hook searching the giant's lair for the magic compass, their banter is hilarious and will hopefully continue even though Emma left Hook high and dry handcuffed up a beanstalk. My willingness to suspend belief about what August showed Neil to make him walk away from Emma and their life, hey if I did it for LOST I think this show deserves a chance too. Least favorite parts of this episode: Aurora continuing to be a whiner. I know she's a fairy princess, but everyone else seems to have grown a pair so why can't she? Most looking forward to: Emma and Neil's reunion and explaining Henry and how a 30 year old man is his grandfather (ahem, David).
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I think this can be a great show and worth seeing and still be 99.9% a commercial enterprise. Like a superbowl commercial! Well funded entertainment for the purpose of funding an enterprise. It happens, especially at Sundays 8pm on ABC.
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So many great things about this review, but I have to give a shout to the following three:

1) Plot coupon.

2) Damn B can't you even sleep without complaining?

3) Snow 'punking' Aurora

Absolutely brilliant!



After last weeks' episode I wouldn't be surprised if one of the future episodes centered around a flashback to August's past where we see him take some (truly) magic mushrooms and go on a (very real) trip to Pulp Fiction land, where he accidently ends up killing Jules and stealing the famous briefcase, then transferring the contents to the box that he shows Neal in order to help persuade him to leave Emma. Speaking of which - why didn't just show the same thing to Emma to convince her of the existence of magic? If, as Lily points out, it is convincing enough to persuade Neal to leave the love of his life, surely it would be enough to convince Emma too...? No. You are right Lily. Must. Stop. Thinking. Don't want to ruin the show!

It was a great episode though. I love it when we see Emma making sensible decisons (not trusting Hook) and Snow being a great mum. I hope for his own sake that Neal doesn't find his way to Storybrooke. I'm not sure how Charming will react when he finds out how Neal led his daughter astray, got up her knocked up, AND locked up for 11 months, but I think it will involve sticking Neal with the 'pointy end'
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LOL Miss Lily, you are even more upset about this that I am, that's a relief, thank you! :-D

I found this episode a bit more entertaining than previous ones and I decided that's all I'm going to ask for. Please OUAT, make me laugh at least, give something to chew, whatever it is. Just as Lily Sparks did in her review, keep me entertained! :-D
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Great episode... though that could be bias from my undeniable love for Michael Raymond-James as an actor.
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I love him too. He's so charismatic.
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Thank you, Lily, for turning cringing/anger-inducing absurdity into hilarious absurdity. Well done. It can't have been easy, but I applaud the effort. Funny and in some ways more enjoyable than the episode.
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Thank you so much!! I really appreciate the warm fuzzy!!!
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Anyone else finding August's story confusing now?



I thought he left 28 years ago, but here he is just 11 years previously just around the corner still hovering over Emma. Surely he would have been tempted away by other things, surely Neil giving him $20,000 wasnt the first time he was tempted to run away.



So what was he up to in the meantime? Seems to me that there is more to August's story than we know right now.
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I still don't see August as a villian more of a really crap-at-doing-the-right-thing-the-right-way kind of hero. Like David was. I still don;t understand how he managed to send the postcard as he was still incapicated in his room at the time that Neil recieved it. (At least that is the impression I got as they cut to August lying frozen on the bed shortly after they showed the postcard arriving.

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I'm confused too. Didn't he say to Neil that he had been following Emma for two years?
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"Just let it go"...before August was tortured because he'd been neglectful and abandoned Emma. Now it seems he actually, knowingly manipulated her life like a big patronizing jerk without bothering to explain any of her destiny or why she was having a baby in jail to her. So as far as character development goes, this was a devestating episode for August. He's officially a villain, I say.
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August left the orphanage with Emma when he was 5 years old, but I guess he just drifted for a while its a little weird. :/
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One of the many things I hope they reveal this season- August has just gotten way further up the list of characters I wonder about in the course of 2 scenes.
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Let's be fair, it was 2002, whatever August showed the guy could hardly have been THAT impressive. If it were the 1980's, then yes, we could agree August most definitely must have shown him something genuinely magical, but by 2002 there's a lot that could have been done to create the illusion of magic. All I'm saying is, this Neal fella was/is kinda a little dumb? I hope to God when we get that little reveal it's not one of those magic hearts. Simple glass'n'light trickery, m'dear! If he fell for anything less than a baby dragon breathing fire, I'm questioning his marbles. Yer marbles are in danger of being questioned, sir.



I liked this weeks episode, mainly because we got Snow and Emma. I know Emma gets a lot of slack for being dumb, and that's even more a fair complaint this season now that she's USED to FTL, but she kind of went above and beyond in this episode? The writers annoy sometimes with the way the write characters, but let's appreciate the fact that Emma had a heart-to-heart (of sorts) with a super handsome pirate and then went ahead and trusted her instincts not to trust him, befriended a giant she'd earlier knocked out and trapped and who wanted her dead mere minutes beforehand, climbed up and down a massive beanstalk, found the compass all on her lonesome (kinda) AND ALL IN LESS THAN TEN HOURS. Guess who could have done that? LITERALLY EVERY OTHER CHARACTER ON THE SHOW. (Obviously except Snow.)



Aurora still annoys me, but I liked that moment at the start - though yes, it was surprisingly emo for a fairtytale princess, but as in the wise words of numerous women as they snap their fingers in a z-formation, I don't know her like that - where Aurora said she should go up because everyone else had something to go back to. Obviously she wouldn't have been able to climb a quarter-mile in that dress before she fell, BUT IT'S THE THOUGHT THAT COUNTS. My only problem is that I REALLY WANTED Mulan to be the one to go up. You can't just introduce a character who permanently has a sword at the ready and have her spend every episode she's in just walking and talking and doing what all us normal people does. She's in a magical land and she's badass and has a sword! By rights she should be MORE AWESOME than Snow by now, but nope. She spent her first episode screaming as she watched the man she loved be killed VERY SLOWLY. Come on. Emo Aurora and Mundane Mulan are not working.



And now all I want to know is what Aurora's connection is with Henry? Because surely that's what they're hinting towards...they're the only two in a room with no exit and curtains on fire. And they both have red eyes, at least in the eyes of the other. I don't know why I'm thinking Red Queen, but now that I've typed that out it's pretty obvious it has to do with the word 'red', so yeah. Alice in Wonderland, anyone?
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I don't like Aurora at all. The writers did a good job of making me dislike her right away and now I don't think I'll ever care for her character.



And I thought it was something to do with the Red Queen also.
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(At the end of the second paragraph I meant guess who could NOT have done that. Just in case that made no sense in context with the rest. I made a boo boo.)
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You know, you might just be looking at this the wrong way. I mean, mixing fairy tales with The Classics might be a good thing - like, what if the Lion King actually became The Veldt and we could send Henry in ... and Aurora ...
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I just have to give credit for the talented wordsmithing that created "hardwood cock blocker". LULZ.
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I loved this episode. I feel like this season is simply amazing so far. I enjoy it. This episode was awesome. The flashbacks taking place in our world...it reminded me of the good ol' Lost days (how I miss that amazing show!). But OUAT, in my opinion, is the next LOST. Love it. This episode was a great character arc. I'm not so sure I want to believe that Neil is Bae, but I think that is who he is. I don't know who else he could be, unless he is Peter Pan. In regards to the box, did anybody consider that August showed Neil a drawing of the dagger. I mean, even a drawing of this dagger would be enough to convince Bae.



As far as Neil/Bae? transforming into a "do-right" child into a criminal, it is possible. I mean August was the same, but this world tempted him. Bae could have had the same thing, a child with no parents, fending for himself? Just an idea.



I will say, however, that the cynicism in this review is not necessary. I understand the drive to be funny, Lily, but please! You don't have to be over the top. I was wondering if your entire review was sarcastic or not. I generally love your reviews, but I finished this review feeling confused. Please, don't become like Tim. If you are going to by cynical and sarcastic when reviewing this show, that's not truly professional. I'm not trying to attack you. I'm just saying.



All in all! Great episode! Love this dream mystery going on! Can't wait for next week! Red Riding Hood!

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I am just trying to reconcile actually enjoying this show with my impatience that they keep asking us to beleive in a larger logic behind it. There is no larger logic behind this show,they don't know wtf was in August's box, they are making it up as they go an dthat's okay- its still entertaining, BSG did the same thing and pulled it off, they can still pull it off- but its bizarre and self-aggrandizing to drop these hints and try to have us all sit here and figure it out like its a math problem.

(remember teh glass coffin in the mine from season one? remember that tying in in any way,shape or form? Exactly.)

So I'm trying to enjoy the show for honestly what it is: entertaining, exciting, and a way to revive and modernize and breathe new life into Disney properties. Its weird to imagine a childhood where you a ren't looking forward to a new DIsney 2D animated movie every summer, which was how I grew up, so in a way I like taht this show kidn of reignites kid's interest in fairytale logic and heroism.

On the other hand, when they do crassly commercial things or needlessly pad the story out, I need a way to call them out on it or I won't be able to honestly enjoy the show. I'll feel like a used car salesman if I don't point this stuff out to readers, and there's no impetus for me to sell OUAT's bad shows to viewers whose time is precious. (Although they could certainly give me one hint hint ABC I am WAY OPEN TO BRIBERY)

Anyway, I am trying NOT to be cynical? In managing my expectations and appreciating the show for what it is.
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About the glass coffin...I didn't feel there was really more of a mystery behind it. I feel like that glass coffin was a way to tell the viewers that FTL was actually real, that it wasn't a figment of imagination and that the FTL and our world had collided. That's how i took it. I don't think there was a bigger mystery behind it all.



I also think that the rumbles and bumbles that caused Henry and Mr. Hopper to go into the mine in that episode were caused by Maleficant (sp?) in her dragon form, stomping around underground. Didn't we see the glass coffin in the season 1 finale when Emma was down there when she was battling the beast?



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please, dont call a show "the next LOST"...its bad luck
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It is the next Lost. It's not bad luck. LOST was amazing. One of my favorite shows. I, unlike some, throughly enjoyed that show. And OUAT is filling that void that LOST left.
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Good guess as to what is in the box. I knew it had to be something from FTL (assuming Neil is Bae) but couldn't think what. I'm quite sure the writers know exactly what it is, and have a plan/story arc. It's insulting to suggest otherwise.
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Agreed. The writers surely know what's in that box. It's a very daft and, as you said, insulting manner to disrespect the writers like that. Just because the writers do not immediately reveal answers does NOT mean they don't know what they are offering. A show/writing would be no fun without mystery. I feel like the majority of audiences, sadly, are impatient. I'm content with the mystery here! What's in the BOX?!



I'm not a published writer, but when I write I like to create mysteries, offer questions. I know the answer, but I choose not to reveal it for quite awhile. I'm sure these writers do similar things, Lily.
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I, too, enjoy a mystery. Figuring it all out is half the fun. The other half is just the pure entertainment these characters and stories bring. Keep up the good work, OUAT writers!
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I side with Lily and here review. She really cares about the show and her criticism is valid (unlike Tim who often bashes a show because he hates it).



I am (slowly) losing interest for OUAT. The show is losing focus and the new characters are not compelling. Aurora is a whiner, Regina's mother is not a good villan and although I suppose we should root for Hook, I can see him only as a bad guy.
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I dislike Aurora so much that I don't care what happens to her. I, too, am losing interest in the show. It makes me sad since I once loved it so much.
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Lily I think your cynical everything-is-marketing transformation is a bit extreme. Your issues with last week's episode were that the show severed its internal logic - not that it was being overtly capitalistic. If you really had such an issue with that aspect of the show you would have already become this cynical early on in Season 1. Your real issue is the show having a lack of planning, an undisciplined universe (to say the least!), somewhat of a betrayal of its purist faerie tale premise and a lull in quality. Your biggest issue was with Frankenstein, but incorporating Frankenstein is hardly a callous example of Disney marketing is it, it's just a case of either bad and undisciplined writing, or writers who believe that the premise of the show is not as limited as you think and still intend to have some structure that as yet is unrevealed (I lean toward the former explanation). While this show is unique in its dependence on Disney owned commodities, it's not reasonable to assume that that factor dwarfs all others. No one jumped into ultra-cynical capitalist mode when Lost and BSG had their narrative wobblies (and I believe those shows had very little in common from a over-arching plot perspective) and nor should people do so with this show. I'm expecting the show's quality to improve over the course of this season. Fingers crossed.
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I guess part of my thesis statement here is just, this network television show isn't the expression of an auteur, its a paid job for essentially a company of people, and on top of that their work is being filtered through expectations and funding from Disney. I am trying to readjust the way I see this and process it while still enjoying it, and for me the way into how I process a show starts with how its written. in this case, by a highly paid committee.
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The bitterest cynic is a disappointed idealist.

Lily had dreams for this show- she shared some of them with us- and she seems to feel they've been trampled by hobnailed boots of stupidity and greed.

If you can't relate to the loss of faith, you've never taken a friend out after a messy breakup- the tone is amazingly similar. But guess what? 9 times out of 10, they recover and get back to their old self, just maybe a touch sadder and wiser.

I hope the writers will justify our faith in their vision- it may turn out to be more about the journey than the "happily ever after" anyway- but I wonder.

I thought this episode was way more interesting than last week"s myself.
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Well said, thanks! I totally agree...and I still think this show still has plenty of potential.
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I think people here go a bit overboard with the tantrum about reviews going dark. Guess what folks? Reviews are reviews - good and bad. They aren't just a kiss ass to the show.

If the show is good, you give credit. If the show is bad you call out for it.



I don't mind the Disney merchandising. I mean as long as you don't have to totally twist the plot for it (see Friends and pottery barn), who cares it's just in the background.

And most people don't know anything other than Disney references anyway.



What bothered me is that the show clearly lost its direction. The writers really don't know where they are going and yes, I believe they have no idea what was in the box.

The *ONLY* thing I can think of at the moment is that Neil is Balefire and August showed him the fairytale book (it's the same box he carried it last season) and if August showed him Rumpelstilskin (sp?) story, Balefire would be convinced...

But that's just a random thought of mine.





I really don't think the writers thought this through and that's the really sad part.
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I agree with you...totally and 100%
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I agree about reviews. I actually especially like reviews where the reviewer is very opinionated. Do you ever stumble across a so-called review that's basically just a recap, which is a TOTALLY DIFFERENT THING, and just...momentarily lose your will to live. Reviews like this, where there's an equally opinionated readership, are the best. So long as some party pooper doesn't come along preaching their views, this is actually a pretty fun thing to do. I don't get the tantrums either. Go read a recap if you want some emotionless drab (that almost always sounds monotonal in your head, let's be honest.)

I think I'm making far less sense than you did, so basically, yes.
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The room in red could be from alice in wonderland! Something from the Queen of Hearts?
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I reckon that it is the room from Twin Peaks and that Henry and Aurora will somehow find themselves in Twin Peaks Land talking backwards.
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that's good!
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Ok for all you people who are talking about Bae who is a kind and nice boy who couldn't be a thief. Well, he came to a strange land where he was alone, abandoned by father and he knew about magic and remembered his previous life. He could find it hard to fit in this strange reallity and probably he was adopted or not and his life could be hard he had to learn how li live in this weird place and maybe it was accident, he was in need to steal something and then the temptation was too strong so he started his life like Neal. I mean Neal wasn't like a really huge thief. He stole the car and watches and ocasionally some food. And I think that he could be Neal.

And August could know exactly who Neal was, because when he and Emma appeared there were articles in papers and maybe the same was with Bae so he started to look for him and he found out that Bae is hanging out with Emmaso he took his chances. He knew exactly what to show to make him believe that he is from his land. And well, Neal couldn't be careless and tell him 'oh you know I am from the FTL too, I am actually Rumpelstiltskin's son". So now he knows that there was a curse and he probably figured out the fact that his father was responsible for that so he wanted to know when the curse will be broken to go there and win Emma back and reunite with his father.
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I agree with everybody...the tone in the reviews changes and becoming almost mean...

Not only with Lily with all of you guys from Tv.com.....it feels like no show can impress you guys anymore....maybe it becomes time, that som other people take over the reviews, who are fresh and not so bitter like you all....that said...



I love this show and the way they keep suprising us...i love all the characters, even Emma when she can be very annoying sometimes...So don't care what you say...will keep watching and loving it...!!!
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Seriously? It was a review. An opinion. People are talking like Lily spat on the American flag or something. It's a tv show. You may not believe me but this is one of my favourite shows. I love it. I really do. But that doesn't mean that I can't hold it up to high standards. It also doesn't mean that everyone else who loves this show has to hold it up to the same standards as me. Why can't we all just accept that different people have different views on the show but we all still love it, and move on.
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Very well said :)
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I don't mind that Lily has her own opinion, but she is from Tv.com and this is not just a site, probably thousands maybe millions of people come to this site and read this... let's say i had never watched it and i would read this kind of reviews, i wouldn't even bother to watch it anymore...before they make it sound like...it is all crap and this is wrong and this is bad and bla bla bla...... that is the effect she is creating.... She should give a proffesional opinion as a reviewer and not a crappy one, where she slash down the whole episode and making jokes with capture pics and ridiclious text with it....it annoys me....and it is not only Lily all four of them do it...like i said, it feels bitter...maybe if she uses a different kind of choice of words, it would feel better....i mean, if i write a review, i would like to be taken seriously...and sorry with this review i simply can't...
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If you're right, the free market will correct and you didn't need to say anything. If you're not, you don't need to say anything because it makes you look stupid. Inevitable conclusion: stop talking.
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Wow, seriously sarcastic and bitter. Are you auditioning for the part of bitter old crone on this show? Really, it's only t..v.
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I'm sorry; you considered that GOOD CGI? I'm afraid to find out what you think is bad... The CGI in this episode was horrendous.



I miss the old way you reviewed. All critical, but in fun. :(
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Dear Commenters:

Yes, Lily's tone has shifted. But before you start whining like Aurora, try to understand the bitterness that SHOULD occur when the writers are stupid enough to pull back the curtain so that you see the Wizard of Oz is just a humbug. You can't unring that bell, and it's impossible to restart the "suspension of belief" after that. Lily can clearly see that OUAT is primarily a money-making scheme, not art, and to blame her for not being naive or mentally challenged is unfair. ABC was the one who pulled back the curtain.

Knowing that, this review is snarkily funny and the best you could do. You can't become a child again.
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I believe the expression is "suspension of disbelief" and also, all television/movies are primarily a "money-making scheme".
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You're right about the phrase (my bad).

I don't agree completely about "all television/movies" being about money. Even if the networks and studios are out primarily to make money (and they are), the writers sometimes are out to tell a story and create art. And sometimes, like with OUAT, they're mercenaries. Saying they're all alike is just lazy generalism. You can't paint all writers with the same broad brush.
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You also can't make the assumption that the OUAT writers are mercenaries! You don't know them, or what their motivations, dreams, goals, etc. are. They are writers doing their job, and I imagine trying to do the best they can to keep that job and keep the show on the air. What I meant was, that ultimately everyone's job is about making money (in addition to other things like telling a story in this case). However, I stand by my statement that all television/movies desire to make money. If that makes them a "money-making scheme", then so be it. It's a good one, in my opinion. Life would be pretty boring without entertainment.
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Well, we can agree to disagree on what the hints mean. All that is just fun speculation. And of course they want to stay on the air and make lots of money (and be famous and successful, etc. etc.). Who wouldn't? All shows want that - that's not exclusive to only this show. I think maybe we're all saying the same thing, but the difference is in perspective and in what one cares to place the emphasis on. Who knew a show about fairy tales could be so controversial?!
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Hey, my whole point here is to celebrate the show AS a money-making scheme.Its not a bad thing, but let's be real, there is no reason for them to plot a 3 season arc when they can have 6 seasons and millions more dollars- so lets manage our expectations about what all the coy hints actually mean (not much.)
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I got nothing to say except I love this show...tons. And I'm loving Hook more and more each week even if he is a "baddie"

Regarding this review though, I have to say I love that "lousy beatniks" screencap you took with Emma and Neil running after stealing. It might be Portland but oopsies, I see the Canada Post truck in the window reflection! lol Little things like that amuse the hell out of me
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I still think sexy cajun accent true blood serial killer is Baelfire. August probably showed him Rumplestiltskin's knife, that's the only explanation that makes sense as to the contents of the box and how quick he was to abandon Emma.



Am I the only one who thinks this dream shared by Aurora and Henry is also shared by Snow? She was certainly lying when she said the nightmares stop and she was so interested in hearing about the dream. Perhaps we'll find out next week.
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How can it be the dagger? August didn't know where it was and needed to trick Gold into unearthing it last season.



I agree with the reviewer, the writers have no idea what it is. Having Neil be Balefire is the most probable guess at the moment, but then again they can always say it is someone else who crossed over realms. (Possibly Frankenstein's brother?)



Although, isn't that the box in which August kept the book later?





And Henry's dream clearly was dreamt by Snow. You could see that both she and Charming recognized the story when they heard it.
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Your questions are not even about the show, with the exception of the last one. You may no longer be interested in the plot, but the rest of us are. I would rather read a thoughtful review, with thought-provoking questions that spark lively speculation and comments. This is such a delightful show... it's a pity that you have become so cynical about it. What did Disney ever do to you?
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