Once Upon a Time "The New Neverland" Review: A Familiar Story Device

Once Upon a Time S03E10: "The New Neverland"

Wow wow wow. How many balled-up sheets of white typing paper would be littering the floor of the OUAT writer’s room if people still used paper? A million? A bajillion? Looks like we’re headed toward ANOTHER series reset! ANOTHER cloud of purple smoke coming from who knows where to do who knows what! Do you think they reached that decision at 3am?

Writer A, extremely tired: “I don’t know, man... we're coming up on the mid-season finale, and we can’t do Neverland anymore because we returned the rental plants. We just need something big, some big old cliffhanger and we’ll figure it out later.”

Writer B, crashing from eating a ton of Oreos and writers' room snacks and not moving for four hours: “The curse resets?”

Writer C, who has a head cold: “Buh bwe did the curse we-set aweady in seavon bwone.”

[Five more hours go by of watching loosely Disney-related YouTube videos, fretting.]

Writer A, getting text from her husband that he hasn't seen her in three weeks and frankly he doesn't remember her eye color: “Okay, curse reset, whatever, the cleaning people are here and they want to vacuum.”

I mean I’m sorry but I saw that purple cloud in the promo and I pulled a-one of a-these.


Can we not?! Can we just have one episode centered on relationship-driven drama? A smattering of comedy of manners, a touch of character development via meaningful conversations? God knows there’s enough twisted family interactions in this world to craft a seriously juicy soap opera. Can't we see just one big family dinner? Do we really have to do all this running around/screaming/finding macguffins/he’s got the woozle but we’ve got the wazzle/somebody kiss/HENRY OMG HENRY WHICH HENRY interspersed with people quoting each other verbatim as a stand-in for relationship growth? "Live in teh moment." "Someone once told me to live in the moment." "Let's live in this moment." Charming quoted Snow to Emma who quoted the same line again to Henry or something. Three scenes, one line! Great economy of effort there, writers.

So yeah, there was definitely a sense of “This again?” in "The New Neverland." Maybe it was just Ginnifer Goodwin’s wig that was giving me deja vu. She seemed pretty thrilled to be wearing it again.




Anyway, in my fury about ANOTHER mysterious purple cloud swooping through town, I totally forgot the beginning of this very nutty episode: Belle dressing Ariel up in f*ck-me heels and leading her over to Eric, who didn’t even wipe his fish-choppin’ paws off before giving her a big juicy slice of welcome tongue. 




Anyway. Ariel better enjoy those sweet, scaly kisses while she can, because disaster is moving through Storybrooke like a chainsaw through a box of kittens. "The New Neverland" started with a huge victory: The Darlings were reunited! They will return “home,” which I assume is the Darling crypt, because they are 126 years old. Snow made a big point of publicly giving Regina a little credit, and our Neverland crew got to finally change clothes, except for Captain Hook, who has not gotten out of his leather frock coat since he first appeared on the show and clearly has no intention to, ever. He’s no doubt enjoying a juicy slew of man musk and rum sweat sloshing around in that getup like the sheen of water within a wetsuit. It was a spicy beverage he was only too eager to offer Tink.



I mean first of all, let’s hear it for new characters doing something sort of interesting and different, like propositioning sex for non-procreative purposes (did you notice that Snow and Charming were trying to conceive on their honeymoon?!?! Those two!) I would actually be in full support of Tink and Hook sharing more scenes, though I equally loved how Tink told him she may be a fairy who lived for a long time as a scavenger picking things off of corpses to survive but dammit she’s got her dignity.

It was especially good to see her put her chin up, considering the Blue Fairy got in one last catty, shitty little dig at her before shuffling off this mortal coil.  


Obviously Keegan Connor Tracy is doing big things over at Bates Motel, but as far as her character goes, this is nothing but good news for Storybrooke. Blue Fairy got in one last epic shade-throw at Tinker Bell and then her tiny, coal-shaped soul was hoovered up by the shadow and off she set out for the rest of her career.



MEANWHILE. (There were so many threads this episode, guys.) Rumple no longer needs his walking stick for some reason, and he tearfully sealed his Pandora’s box into the floor of his pawn shop with the promise that as long as he's alive the box will remain sealed, meaning it was going to be out and in play within the next 20 minutes. Emma’s Spidey Sense was already tingling that something was up with Henry. He wasn’t jumping up and down with glee over his story book, which some parents would see as adolescence, but then when he volunteered to go home with Regina, Emma was like “No, he is seriously acting weird, maybe I should follow Regina and Henry back to the house and stand in the front lawn holding a boombox playing 'In Your Eyes' or something.” But Snow was like “No believe me Henry’s just excited about being in his old room. I know I fantasize about when I used to have my studio apartment to myself before you moved in and started getting drunk and taking apart my appliances. I realize now those were the ‘glory days’. Dear Lord, right now it's you, me, your father, Henry—I mean for shit’s sake, the bed is in the dining nook, the bathroom is constantly in HEAVY use, and the towels all smell like Chia Pet. What I wouldn’t give to be able to shut a damn door and lie down to sleep. I’ll never know that luxury again.” Or at least, that’s what her eyes said.






Speaking of Neal, he did that cool no-pressure thing where you give someone a very specific ultimatum: MEET ME TOMORROW AT THE BOOTH FOR LUNCH OR I’LL NEVER ASK YOU OUT AGAIN. He knows what buttons to push when someone has abandonment issues, that’s for sure. Snow and Charming were IMMEDIATELY way, way, way on board for this date with a relative stranger with a genuine rapsheet. Like, have they heard about the meet-cute where Emma found him sleeping in her car? Yeesh. Parents of the year over here. And then when Emma didn’t show up, Charming hunted her down and gave her a serious talking-to about enjoying the moments in between the constant agony that is both of their lives. 



And then Charming made an extremely hilarious joke about how he wasn’t interested in dating Hook because he was a married man. Haha, just a classic closeted dad-and-daughter duo walking arm-in-arm to meet their beards for cocoa. Enjoy that strangled, confused sense of unfulfillment! Ha. Anyway, realizing that Mr. & Mrs. Fulltime Babymakers were not going to let her out of her last proven heterosexual relationship that easy, Emma agreed to walk back to the diner and eat a burger while sitting across a table from Neal if it would just make everybody shut up shut up shut up. Then the most magical moment of the episode happened and the Blue Fairy got her soul ripped out and Emma realized that what she actually really wanted to do was bicker with Regina about emotionally loaded topics, and bicker they did. These two! I love it.






Pan in Henry’s body was very much enjoying his newfound American accent, not to mention Henry’s spacious bedroom. He was casing the joint for magic and then he was able to sucker Regina down to the family crypt where she keeps all her potions and gowns, and then he got her to hug him and then he stole a potion and knocked her out.

Emma had erstwhile freed Henry in Pan’s body from the Pandora’s cube and made him tell everybody about that time when she told him the reason she gave him up was to give him his best chance. That was the pilot, everybody, and it’s still the best-written episode OUAT's ever presented us with. At the mention of that truly heart-melting moment of great writing, everybody grew appropriately teary-eyed and was convinced that Henry really WAS stuck in Pan’s body. Everybody gave him big hugs and didn’t even question why Henry now spoke with an English accent. 



Then it was time to save Regina! Somehow (???) everybody knew—and I do mean everybody, because like 14 people turned up in that grave yard AND a coconut shell...



...but all of them knew that Regina was down in the crypt, and as they waited for Rumple to mind-weld it open, Emma started getting very grouchy about never getting a day off. I hear you girl, except last time I checked, you run around full-time with your crazy-ass family and don’t tell me that’s as bad as a 9-to-5 because I used to work a 4-to-12 at a grocery store, and I am talking AM. Besides pulling a gun on a teenage boy who's infested with your son’s soul, when is the last time any of Your Majesties put in an eight-hour shift? Excuse me. Anyway. Just about the time Emma was really warming up to how hard it is being the Savior, and how her parents were great parents but as dumb as a pair of Corgis, the tomb was open and Regina was okay and the bad news was, the mid-season finale is going to end with a very familiar cliffhanger unless Regina does something really dramatic.





Because Pan had stolen The Curse! The First Curse! Which will reset everyone to where they are from and rob them of their memories again! Which requires the heart of the one you love most to cast, so we should be safe unless, against all odds, the writers gloss over that or find some kind of macguffin-y workaround. Look, despite feeling a little exhausted by the purple cloud season-reset device, I will be GLUED to the screen for the mid-season finale next week. Will this town finally manage to gain full control of their brains at long last, or will they once again be plunged into the tragedy of not aging? I want to know what happens to these characters that I am so weirdly, deeply, impossibly interested in, so I will be glued even though I know the episode will just leave me dangling from another unearned cliffhanger. Come on guys can you tell me what's going to happen?! Let’s figure this out.

Oh yeah and there was a gorgon. 


QUESTIONS:

... Are they going to make the Jared/Robbie Kay switch permanent? No. Right? No. But what if they did? How insane would that be?

... Living for the little moments: This is true for many, but in the Charmings’ case, maybe they should cool it with the babies until they have a place to live where each generation of the family can have their own room?

... Isn’t it kind of weird that Snow and Charming are so pro-Neal? Like have they even talked to him? 

... What is that big bad cloud going to do? Will it prevent the curse from happening, or will we have to wait until after the mid-season finale to find out?


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Dec 17, 2013
I just wanted to give a quick shout-out compliment/complaint about one of the scenes: when Tink is coming out of the bathroom, and Hook says that it can be hard to get used to Storybrook.

Honestly, I don't know whether to be thrilled that they finally brought it up, or annoyed that they lampshaded one of the biggest problems without taking any steps to fix it.

FTL and Storybrook (the real world) are two very, very different places. And yet, nobody experiences any culture shock. It's understandable with everybody who were victims of the original curse - they have memories of an entire life in our world, in addition to their real lives. But Cora? Hook? Pan? Rufus? Wendy (who, yeah, is from this world, but from 120 years ago!)? Regina, when the curse first hit? Why did none of them experience any visible culture shock? Sure, Ariel did, but "in a permanent state of culture shock whenever she's out of the water," is practically Ariel's defining characteristic! Where's the fun in that?!

I mean, just look at that one scene - Tink is coming out of a bathroom. Has she ever seen a modern toilet before? Did she have to be told how it works? And the sink?

And sure, it may all have been behind the scenes, except that we see Cora and Hook's initial arrival in Storybrook, and even then... nothing. And even if it was behind the scenes - I feel like we missed out on what could have been one of the most fun aspects of Cora's and Hook's arrival in Storybrook.

:( Yeah, I guess this turned into a complaint thread. It's just been bugging me for a very, very long time, and this is the first chance I've had to write about it.
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Dec 16, 2013
the reason I started watching the show is because of Mr Gold. Please find a way to bring him back. Is one of the most awesome complex characters on the show.
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Dec 12, 2013
Um...I want to know more about the Shadow. I hope there more about it, why was it in Neverland? Why does Pan control it? Did it ever belong to someone? I'm not sure if I can handle reboot of the curse but if Robbie Kay continues as Henry I can deal with it!
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Dec 12, 2013
another great review, lily. thanx for that! to answer your questions:

1. I would love that! Bashing a kid`s acting "skills" makes me feel bad but let´s face it; Jared is awful!
2. They should not have another child at all and should focus on the one they already have.
3. it is not, actually! EMMA stated numerous times that she LOVES Neal and since her parents do not know about what happend in the past they just want her to be with the one she (supposedly) loves
4. I have no idea what will happen but I am not really fond of the idea of another curse. I think we will not find out until after the mid-season finale.

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Dec 13, 2013
My thoughts, based on your thoughts, lolaaa. :)

1. I thought this episode we really saw what the kid can do; I think he really pulled off emulating Pan, especially when he was trolling around his room at Regina's. [I will admit, though, that this is the first time I've thought that in three seasons. :( ]
2. I agree. "We love you and all, Emma, but we want something squishy and cuddly and you're just not doing the trick." ...wtf?
3. She stated that she loves Neal, but she also said that she can't trust him and that she'd wanted him to be dead so that he couldn't hurt her again. He put her through alot of stuff; I know relationships IRL where the people love each other but can't get over the past. I think it's an oversight (on the part of the writers or the Charmings, I'm not sure) that no one has actually sat down and had a heart-to-heart with Emma about it. I would think that's what the "good guys" would do, rather than being assuming and pushy? Of course, they are people, and subject to error in decision making, granted.
4. I'm not thrilled with the idea of another curse, either. Although, perhaps it will send them back to where they're from? I don't see how PP could enact it, since Regina had to give up the thing she loved the most, and I don't think PP really loves anyone but himself, so I'm not sure about the outcome of the casting of the curse...
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Dec 14, 2013
3. I really liked the treatment of the Charmings in this review. The best excuse I can find for their lapses would be that it serves the purpose of painting Emma as the one to save them all, given that she is so often more mature than her own parents.
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Dec 12, 2013
Honestly, what does Snow and Charming see in Neal? What about him makes them feel like he's so great for Emma? That he's the father of Henry? Umm wake up bitches, Regina's been doing the parenting for the last 10 years and that's why Henry turned out to be the way he did. We already saw how much she loved him and the lengths she went to make sure she could be the best parent she could be, unlike these pricks who shipped their daughter off to Maine unprotected and only in a blanket to save themselves in the future. Why does Neal get to be easily called "dad"? What has he done that's so fatherly? Seriously, it pisses me off.
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Dec 12, 2013
Gee, I don't know why, but I am suddenly feeling like I should live in the moment...??


Folks, let's have at least a small requiem for Mother (Oh So) Superior, aka Blue. Sure, she was an insufferable harpy. But I for one will miss her. If I had the choice between being a dead, wooden adult or a real live boy, I'd chose the latter in a New York minute. If I had a choice between wearing Cora's haute couture bracelet and dying of electrocution, or losing the bracelet and waking up with a mild headache...well, the latter wins again. Blue did sometimes save the day, bad 'tude notwithstanding.

And (honest Q) with all those powers, why couldn't she cause the Shadow to splat to the ground, just like poor ol' Tink?
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Dec 12, 2013
So are the Darlings out for good? That what we are suppose to understand right? Once again are side characters to disappear? Personally I was really looking forward to see more of them. They seemed very interesting with lots of possible back story, particularly Jon and Michael since Wendy was trapped there. Maybe we will get lucky and they'd get swept up in the curse.
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Dec 13, 2013
The writers like to feature these new characters to promote the show (see who Wendy is and what her crazy life is like!) but then never seem very motivated to investigate them.
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Dec 11, 2013
So everyone, including both Charmings, were totally on board with summarily executing Pan on the outskirts of town?

Welcome to Post-modern Fairy Tale Land, everyone.

Also: what a huge slap in the face to Regina by the writers, that a major clue for Emma that Henry isn't himself, is that he wants to spend some time with his adoptive mother.

Also also: I really thought you'd dedicate this review so much more to the death of Blue Fairy. Way to show restraint!

Also also, and finally: this was a prime time opportunity to squeeze in Disney's Hercules, what with a monster from Greek legend and all. But no. Just more stupid "Snow-and-Charming Power Hour" back story. And speaking of missing characters, are they just going to pretend the Meghan Ory was never there? Or are we to assume that Red got so tired of Granny that she left Storybrooke, lost her Fairy Tale memory for good, and is never coming back?

Whatever, writers.
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Dec 12, 2013
It is kinda funny that Regina was the one who showed the most restraint - she could have killed Pan in Neverland and didn't. Of course, it blew up in her face. At least Pan was gracious enough to return the favor. He really should have killed her while she was unconscious, seeing as how she's one of the only two people in town who can match up to him at all, but he didn't.

I miss Ruby, but I don't have any issue with what the writers are doing there. Meghan Ory's new show is not predicted to succeed, so they have every reason to expect her to become available again soon. As such, there's no need to write the character off. But because of the way Storybrooke works, they can't just send her off on a trip of indefinite length like another TV show could. I'm fine with assuming she's always just someplace else in town during Storybrooke scenes - I don't need to have Granny explaining every time that Ruby's off at the grocery store or the local bar or whatever. When other supporting characters like Archie or Whale aren't in scenes, we don't get told their actual whereabouts either. Would we even think about it in Ruby's case if we didn't know that the actress is currently busy on another show?
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Dec 13, 2013
I see your point about Ruby, although we've had Archie and Whale references more recently than a Ruby reference (flashbacks count), AND we know the writers are perfectly happy ignoring characters whose actors left -- i.e., Giancarlo Esposito's genie is gone and no one knows where (although again, we at least get the smallest of references when Regina calls him in a flashback sequence).

As for Pan not killing Regina, have we actually seen Pan kill anyone yet? Not saying he can't, but . . . can he? Sure, he "accepted" Henry's heart, but Henry did it himself, and he didn't die anyway. Just wondering now if somehow Pan's not allowed to take a life. If he can, then Regina was certainly "saved by canon", as it were -- she's too important to die for something as small as common sense, because Pan should have done her in.
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Dec 13, 2013
Pan was going to take Henry's heart against his will on the Jolly Roger, which would have killed Henry, so yes, Pan can take a life.

And Henry only didn't die in Neverland because Regina cast a preservation spell on him and then got him his heart back before the spell expired. Presumably she cast the spell on him before brain death occurred (insert easy joke here about whether Henry even has a brain in the first place). That said, it did seem important to Pan that Henry give him his heart willingly - it probably made the heart more powerful that way, as a gift of "true belief." Maybe Pan even had a little bit of a conscience about not wanting to kill his great-grandson with his own hands. But obviously Henry wasn't going to fall for the "you totally won't die" ruse a second time.

I think the main issue with the way Pan behaved in Neverland was that, as Regina noted at the tree, his magic was weakened. So he avoided combat with them (under the ruse of "playing games") and allowed them to think that he was at full strength. Emma had some interaction with him, but she knows very little about magic, so she couldn't tell. But as soon as Regina finally got to interact with him, at the tree, she knew.
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Dec 11, 2013
As usual, Lily, your snark and observations really enhance my enjoyment of this show, and this week, it needed all of the enhancement it could get. Plot holes big enough to fly a schooner through abounded.

I'm still wondering how Pan made the switch in the previous episode without Henry's heart/magic to power him. Did his giant hourglass get flipped and plucking the heart back has no repercussions? Smells like writers' flop sweat.

I was also puzzled about how the illiterate Pan was able to speed read the story book, let alone pull just the right vial out of that mountain of bric-a-brac Regina keeps in her underground garage.
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Dec 11, 2013
Why is he illiterate? Surely if he couldn't read as an adult, he has had 350ish yrs to learn.
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Dec 11, 2013
Two things I didn't like
1) If your going to add the Greek Mythology to the mix it should be in a different world and not part of fairy land
2) Well The death of the Blue fairy just remind how stupid her character was.It was such a waste that the writers of show don;t give us one decent "Good Guy" who is not completely naive and stupid.The Blue Fairy could have been a guide for Emma someone she could turn for help but they decided to make her really childish and stupid
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Dec 11, 2013
I am assuming in my own rational of things, that the Greek mythology beings come from another world. They just portaled over at some point.
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Dec 11, 2013
Riddle me this: While I chuckled seeing Eric beheading a fish, why was he working in Storybrooke in the first place? I thought, after Emma broke the curse, everyone was (kind of) relieved from their monotonous lifestyles. When was the last time Regina worked in her office, as mayor? When was the last time Henry went to school? Why did Eric choose to continue to work, while probably not making any income for his free house in the burbs of Storybrooke?

Poor Granny. The entire town is mooching off of her hamburgers. She never gets a day off.
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Dec 12, 2013
Regina was removed as mayor in episode 203 and reinstated herself (probably because citizens begged her because nobody got paid) in 219. So it's been about 1 week since Regina worked as Mayor.

And pish, Henry go to school. He's a Charming, he has no need of intelligence or schooling.
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Dec 12, 2013
*Spoiler Alert*
It is because Prince Eric is also Bluebeard. (This is the aristocrat fairy tale who is a serial killer of his wives). He is taking his frustration out on the fish since Ariel is the one that got away. But now she isn't. New villian ahead.
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Dec 11, 2013
My guess is boredom and frustration. When Emma broke the curse most couples and family members reunited, but not him & Ariel until this episode. Nothing to do but chop fish until his life feels whole again. (shrug)
Haha! So true about Granny!
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Dec 11, 2013
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Dec 11, 2013
Well, the prophecy on Rump makes sense at last: in order to cast the Curse, it is required for the caster to kill his most important person (or the person he loves the most, or whatever). In Pan's case, it would be his son. As Pan is in Henry's body, Henry will be Rump's undoing. But this means the reset is going to be done, and I don't think it will help the show.
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Dec 11, 2013
Okay I keep hearing predictions Rumple is dying next episode. What is up with this guys? Did Carlyle get tapped for a film? Someone throw me some deets I'm getting scared y'all.
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Dec 11, 2013
Based solely on the trailer for next week's episode, I do not think that is the case. They definitely switch Henry and Pan back while Rumple is still alive (there's a scene where Robbie Kay says something like, "Can I never be rid of you?!" to Rumple before TK'ing him into a wall....that was definitely not Henry doing that). So that wouldn't fulfill the prophecy.

Side note: Bucketlist item achieved: Use "fulfill the prophecy" in a legit sentence!

Second Side note: If they really do have a reset curse......I am probably going to stop watching this show.
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Dec 11, 2013
Is anyone else upset that we didn't get to see whats been happening in Storybrooke without the main folk around?
No mayor, no sheriff or deputy, no town landlord....
In the summer, I had envisioned this grand plot of King George trying to take over the town. Or of royalty revolting . Because how realistic is it for Cinderella's prince to be satisfied and still working in the cannery or for Prince Eric to be a fishmonger. You so know they want their laid back lives back.
And in contrast the peasant folk being happy with electricity, running water, grocery stores and not having to work 20hr jobs on the field.
In stead we got 10episodes of the same group of characters thrashing around in the jungle. Neal couldnt even stay around in the Enchanted forest long enough to at least have a side story that wasn't the jungle.
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Dec 11, 2013
In one episode, the dwarves said that the town was really peaceful without the Charmings.
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Dec 11, 2013
Yes. But I find that to be such a poo poo write off. Except possibly being my favorite scene of the season.
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Dec 11, 2013
Hahaha, it really was! Couldn't agree more with them.
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Dec 11, 2013

... Isn’t it kind of weird that Snow and Charming are so pro-Neal? Like have they even talked to him?
It doesn't make any sense whatsoever. "This is the guy who got our daughter pregnant and then abandoned her. Such a nice man!"

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Dec 11, 2013
I've been waiting and waiting for them to find out the details. Maybe she'll finally have it with Snow pushing him on her that she'll finally spill the beans.
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Dec 11, 2013
Oh, by the way. Do you think the writers remember Mulan?

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Dec 11, 2013
Mu-who, now?
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Dec 11, 2013
Yes, that''s why she joined Robin's party. Once he is back in so is she. And since he is suppose to be Regina's love, then I presume he is coming back. If the curse is whisking them away to the forest then he'll be there. Maybe Regina will be cursed to be more Maid Marion-y (hey did they ever say that his lady love was Marion in that flashback or did we all just assume?) and thus their romance as she has different memories.
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Dec 11, 2013
I enjoyed 'Save Henry'. I really did. Then I realized they were coming back to Storybrooke, where everything is possible. Even leading this show to its good old days. And then the ship landed. And the Darling reunited and Wendy said 'Do you remember Neal?'. And they all hugged each other. And I puked, and swore myself 'THEY BETTER KILL THEM ALL OR I WILL'.
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Dec 10, 2013
oh my god what isthis
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Dec 10, 2013
So is next season the Pantheon? Or the one following? I totally thought they weren't going to go into the Hercules route since that's less fairytale/story and more religion.
But since they brought in Pandora's box (and made it weak I might add) and now Medusa and of course there has been Pegasus, chimera.....and all this other stuff from the Hellenistic world.
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Dec 10, 2013
OK - I'm going to say this - I was sorry to see the Blue Fairy bite the dust. For one thing, I never thought that she was evil as much as the ultimate rule follower, with an inflexibility that could create problems for others. Also, I would have enjoyed seeing her backstory.

On the other hand, the writers may just have needed her to grant wishes, distribute beans, make grown puppets young again, etc. Poor Blue - always a plot device, never a character.



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Dec 11, 2013
I know!! She was a plot device for Rumple and Bae, a plot device for saving 'Savior' Emma from the curse, shows up in Grumpy's story, Tinkerbell's story, Cora's story, Pinnochio... Silly me to think the writers might have been building to something grander. I thought she was going to be to OUAT what the Hellmouth was to Buffy, a reason for the never-ending craziness that goes on.
But no. Apparently she was just a plot coupon who's time it was to expire.
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Dec 10, 2013
Well first of all, I hated that they figured Pan's plan (including the body switching thing) so damn fast. I mean, yawn.
And also, so much happened in this episode, I was trying to keep up with everything. Did u notice they were all talking faster and not taking like a second to reply? XD it was like, "ok guys, we need to get 6 other plot lines in here before the episode is over, chop chop!"
About the curse reseting, I'm not sure how I feel, guess I'll have to wait for the next episode to form an opinion.
But yeah, I feel like the writers should take a breather and really think things through, and not trying to squeeze as much as they can in one single episode, cause it made my head hurt.
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Dec 11, 2013
Yeah I was a bit surprised that the Pan & Henry switch was revealed so fast. I'd figure at least one whole episode before or Emma at the last mins of episode would figure it out.
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Dec 11, 2013
Yes, me too. They have been so quick at rushing certain plots such as this while dragging other ones. And usually they drag the less interesting ones and vice versa.
I think my favorite moment so far of the season has been the dwarfs eatig lunch and Happy commenting how peaceful its been without Snow around. Nice everyday routine with some observation. Characters that are not the main unit. No dire circumstances.
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Dec 10, 2013
Pan in Henrys body killing Rumplestiltskin would make sense. Im getting bored of characters remembering pre curse life so I'm excited about the new curse. Mary margaret annoys me so I can't wait for the more interesting snow white coming back from the curse. I hate neal. Go Captain Swan! Finally blue fairy is dead. I doubt pan killing Rumplestiltskin will work so he'll have to commit suicide. Excited for rapunzal and rebecca mader as new villain and does anyone remember mary margarets darkening heart. Maybe the writers will save that for the last season and make mary margaret become the ultimate villain.
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Dec 10, 2013
I been thinking and thinking on the title of this sunday new episode "GOING HOME".
And I came up with this theory, if the curse happen, all that were affect in the first one are going back
to the Enchanted Forest, except for Emma, Hook, Henry and maybe Neal. Emma to be safe of the curse she is going home too, to Boston.
Taking them with her.I guess before the curse arrive they are already figure out a plan to broke that curse but they have to go back first to EF.
Emma once again will broke the curse...
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Dec 12, 2013
*spoiler alert* BTS photos show Hook is in EF with the gang, minus Emma and Henry. But they also show Hook in NYC with Emma and Henry also. Very confusing.
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Dec 12, 2013
Maybe Hook can leave the EF without problems, I guessing he is the one who is gonna be connect to the EF and Real world and bring news to Emma from the EF and vice Versa.. Yes, very 'ucking confusing.
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Dec 10, 2013
great episode!!!
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Dec 10, 2013
If they cancel "Once Upon a Time in Wonderland" couldn't they bring the person who could complete Regina over to this show? Emma Rigby's 'Red Queen' is stealing that show just like her counterpart has here. Why do these women need men? The Red Queen and the Evil Queen need to hook up.

If not her, then Tinkerbell is growing quickly as an awesome female character. Putting Robert Smith wannabe in his place was awesome. Regina and her would be great as well. They seem to like one another now. Poor Keegan Conner Tracy, everyone is killing you off. I think your death on your other show is going to propel the rest of the story so good job there and hopefully your death here means something even if we're glad you're gone.

Yeah, where the f are the Darlings suppose to go now? Poor Wendy. Fingers crossed they don't screw everything up - worried but I'm in because that makes 3 good episodes in a row. Even with all the strange stuff - keeping the accent (face plant). Lets make it four and keep counting. Best line of the night, of course, goes to Regina - when Snow looks in the shield and sees that beautiful face and Regina says something to the effect of David turned to stone, how did you even notice? Awesome dig on idiots trying to cap a Gorgon to hurt you Regina.
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Dec 10, 2013
Yes, I love Swan Queen, but if we can't get that, I would take Regina/Tink before Regina/Robin. I'm trying to be open to R/R since we haven't even seen them yet - but that's the thing, we haven't even seen them yet. Regina and Tink have terrific chemistry and it would be interesting because Tink knew Regina before she was really consumed by darkness, so she's seen the best and worst of Regina. And we've seen present-day Tink bring out a genuinely protective, caring side in Regina that we haven't really seen with anyone else except Henry.

Every time I rewatch the scene where Tink is holding the arrow at Regina's neck, it's quite noticeable that Tink keeps staring at Regina's lips - it's an interesting choice on Rose McIver's part, and it's pretty hot.
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Dec 11, 2013
Tinkerbell has slowly been becoming one of my favorite characters on this show this season. Rose McIver gotten two really good recurring supporting roles on Sunday television this year. She's been very good in 'Masters of Sex' as well. I hope they keep her around here.
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Dec 13, 2013
Tinker Bell is so well played and they haven't made her confused about anything yet which is why I think a big part of why the character is so appealing. We've seen Regina/Emma/Snow/Charming be so confused for so long its nice to see someone walk in and be like "call me when you figure things out later bye"
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Dec 10, 2013
I agree Emma Rigby as "the Red Queen" is amazing ever since we found out her real name is Anastasia.
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Dec 11, 2013
She is just like Lana Parrilla. She is suppose to be evil, but she puts that pout on her flawless face and you just fall in love with her. Also very awesome to have another female character hiding her 'Anastasia' from everyone. She's just like Carrie Hopewell only evil....
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Dec 10, 2013
Anyone get the sense they're bringing Tink in again just to unite Regina with Robin Hood? That's gonna make me boke!
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Dec 10, 2013
That, and having a fairy now that Blue's gone..
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Dec 11, 2013
Maybe Tink steps into the position of "Mother Superior", but with a more relaxed vibe? I don't want her to become a plot device as well, though, so I really hope they keep her around as a friend to Regina. She damn sure needs one...#pitythequeen
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Dec 11, 2013
good point.
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Dec 11, 2013
plus it will be nice for Regina to have an actual friend.
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Dec 10, 2013
Not much has happened this week.
Unfortunately, everybody's back in the "the real parents are the biological ones" zone. Like Emma, who's known Henry for what? a few months? and has NO superpower that can tell when one is lying (you're as gullible as a 3 year old, girl, deal with it!) could immediately tell that "something was off" with Henry, and Regina, who is his REAL mother, and knows him (because she f**ing raised him!!!) couldn't! This simply makes NO SENSE!


QUESTIONS:

... Are they going to make the Jared/Robbie Kay switch permanent? No. Right? No. But what if they did? How insane would that be?

=> I'd like that since Robbie Kay is amazing, BUT, Jared Gilmore (aka "the kid who plays Henry") IS NOT A BAD ACTOR! He's painful to watch only because his lines are badly written! With good "villain" lines, and a consistent character that is not impossible to play (because, YES, it is a whole lotta harder to play a character who doesn't make any sense and changes his entire psychology every two seconds than a well-written, consistent one!). So, if the switch was permanent, it would be GREAT for J. Gilmore, but not so much for R. Kay who would be stuck with Henry's virtually impossible to play character.


... Living for the little moments: This is true for many, but in the Charmings’ case, maybe they should cool it with the babies until they have a place to live where each generation of the family can have their own room?

=> Definitely! Emma is Sheriff, for ***'s sake! She has income now, she can rent her own place! Stop whining about being the savior (which you are NOT since Regina did EVERYTHING in Neverland!) and get a life, girl!

... Isn’t it kind of weird that Snow and Charming are so pro-Neal? Like have they even talked to him?

=> Yep, weird. They're probably just homophobic and don't want their daughter to end up with Regina... Or they don't like Hook's eyeshadow...

... What is that big bad cloud going to do? Will it prevent the curse from happening, or will we have to wait until after the mid-season finale to find out?
=> I never watch the teasers, so I'm gonna take this "big bad cloud" as a hypothetical one... At the end of the episode, I thought that they were probably gonna make us wait and wait because the curse looked kinda hard to cast. They'll also need quite a lot of loose justifications to make the spell work without a loved one heart, and without the possibility of being broken by true love... I mean, isn't it written on the parchment or something??
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Dec 10, 2013
I've been pretty angry with the show for 2 seasons about biological vs. adoptive, but I actually don't feel like that was the case here. It was really about positive confirmation bias versus negative confirmation bias. Regina explicitly stated that she believed because Pan-Henry was saying what she wanted to hear. In contrast, Pan-Henry was saying things that Emma did NOT want to hear - he wasn't excited to see the book, he kept picking Regina to be with. So Emma was predisposed to be more suspicious than Regina.

It's not like Emma figured out that Henry wasn't Henry. That would have been a BIG leap. She just noticed that he was a little off and said so. Regina actually did have a couple of instances herself of noticing that Henry was off - she just didn't acknowledge them to Emma because she was hurt by what she felt Emma was really saying. But the oddness is easily attributed to all the trauma from Neverland, and is certainly a likelier explanation than that Henry wasn't Henry. Emma didn't consider body-swapping any more than Regina did.
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Dec 11, 2013
You're completely right, here. I probably overreacted because this biological vs. adoptive parents thing has been bugging me for far too long now! Sorry!
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Dec 10, 2013
I think that Pan will go for Rumple's hart as he is the only person he could care about. And that is how the prophecy will come true (that Henry will be Rumple's undoing). Pan is in Henry's body.
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Dec 10, 2013
If they reset the curse then Off with the writers heads!!

Please keep Robbie Kay. Sorry little dude who plays Henry but if @ this point I still can't remember your real name I'm afraid I don't care about your acting either. Better luck in your next gig when you are fully grown maybe?

Make Captain Swan happen before the end of the season and set the record straigh about Neal; maybe they don't kill off Pan in Henry's body but just cancel his magical powers and Neal volunteers to take him to a land far far away to make it a fresh start: the guy who abandoned his preggo gf and the guy who abandoned his 8 yr old son, match made in FTL if you ask me.
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Dec 11, 2013
Jared Gilmore. I remember because I write his name in my Death Note every night before going to bed.
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You have a Death Note? Cool, I should get me one of those. I loved the anime!
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Dec 11, 2013
Lol.
It's not the kid's fault; his parents should seat down and talk to him about life choices, like when I was 11 and my mom told me I would never be a ballerina because I sucked and I should focus on school. It's hard but someone has to break the news to him.
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Dec 10, 2013
The thing about Keegan is that she sort of, kind of got killed at Bates Motel too, right? Sooo (as sad as it may be) goodbye Keegan!
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Dec 10, 2013
The blue *itch is dead! Rest in pieces.

I don't think they'll stop time because Ginnifer looked pregnant. I'm guessing this is why they've been talking about these babies so much, there's one coming up? If they freeze time there'll be no babies.

Also, didn't the curse need the heart of a loved one? Or was that just the price for getting the curse from Rumple? Pan doesn't love anybody, though he might of course try with the one loyal lost boy.

The accent... mayyyybe, it's like in body swap they also change brains and there are this already developed connections which remain, yet "the soul" is different. Well yeah, that's as good explanation as any really.

And Henry looks like he's 18 or something and he's supposed to be 12? I wouldn't mind if they swapped Pan and Henry for good, though Henry was okay in this episode, he even did the eyebrow-raisin-thing and looked almost menacing.

Reset or no reset, I'll still be watching. Even with the ridiculous parts this is fun to follow.
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Dec 10, 2013
You might be right about the brains- it's obvious that Pan didn't get enough of Henry's memories to recognize the Book.
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Dec 10, 2013
Yeah I thought Pan was going to take Felix's heart... but Pan doesn't love anything or anyone more than himself!
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Dec 10, 2013
Great review Lily. Entertaining as always, I especially enjoyed the lazy writers room example in your intro.
One thing I thought of while watching the episode and sorry if you or someone else already brought this up but WHERE is Rumples shadow? He had it hide his dagger in Neverland and I don't remember seeing him retrieve either before they left!? Did I miss something or did the writers? Can anyone fill me in?
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Dec 10, 2013
I think the lack of Rumple's shadow is called plot hole.
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Dec 11, 2013
LOL...Yeah I guess that's what it is, so far at least. I just don't understand why they would devote such a memorable scene to it and then never mention it again. I guess I'm hoping that this somehow comes into play in the next couple of episodes? Who knows. Then again I wouldn't be surprised if no one ever spoke of it again because that's happened before on this show.
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Dec 10, 2013
If you missed it I missed it too- but Rumple's shadow having custody of the Dagger is too good a secret weapon to ignore!
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Dec 10, 2013
If shadow=soul then maybe Rumple can survive without his heart?
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Dec 10, 2013
I was thinking the exact same thing.
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Dec 10, 2013
Wow, you really didn't like this episode, did you? I thought it was excellent, 'cept for the flashbacks and Snow and David being weirdly into Emma/Neal (what is with that?). Oh, and Ariel/Eric. They are possibly the most useless couple on TV. The Little Mermaid is so classic, and look what they've done to it! I hope they don't frak up Rapunzel, whom they'll have when they come back from break.

And I BEG your pardon, the pilot the best written episode of OUAT? HA! I had to force myself to watch the next episode. Then I got totally into it. Seriously girl, where were when Red-Handed, Skin Deep, A Land without Magic or Broken aired?

I kinda like the idea of the curse reset. Well, not interested in a reset so much a reset as if and how the curse will act differently now that they're in Storybrooke. It's supposed to take people to a land without magic, or so I thought, and Storybrooke has magic now, so will it just plunk 'em down outside the city limits? Make a Storybrooke 2.0? Or does the curse kinda volley back and forth between our world and the Enchanted Forest, so it'll just send 'em back to FTL? The next episode IS called Going Home. I'm interested in seeing how this will play out.

Honestly, I didn't really sweat it about Henry and Pan's accents. I don't think anyone wants to hear either actor attempting the other's accent. I really hope they keep Robbie as Henry, but I know they won't, sadly.

And DING DONG, THE BLUE FAIRY IS DEAD! Awesome. Though I do think it was a very quick death scene for such an important character. The writers seem to listen to the fans when they're clamoring for unpopular characters' deaths (see Tamara and Greg), but I think they kill them off too fast. I'm still pissed T and G were killed off just like that because I was PREPARED to give them a chance once we learned more about them and why they're so anti-magic, but no, gone! Now their entire storyline in season two is completely useless. I think the writers should stick it out before they kill off important characters, if only to give them one big episode before they snuff it (like Cora in season two).

P.S. My curiosity is still unsatisfied. Have you given up on Once Upon a Time in Wonderland?
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Dec 12, 2013
Skin Deep is one of the worst episodes of the series.
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Dec 17, 2013
If that's the case, then how did the OUAT fandom vote it the best episode of season one? It's one of the best episodes of the series. My guess is if you didn't like it it's because you're not a Rumbelle shipper.

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Dec 17, 2013
I think you hit the nail on the head there: Rumbelle shippers spam any poll hard. But you're right, I'm not a Rumbelle shipper. I'm not into romanticized abuse.
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Dec 12, 2013
" I thought it was excellent, 'cept for the flashbacks and Snow and David being weirdly into Emma/Neal (what is with that?). Oh, and Ariel/Eric."

So basically you didn't like half of the show...how does that qualify as "excellent"? :-/
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Dec 17, 2013
The flashbacks are usually not my favorite parts, and two poor two minute story lines in a 45 minute episode are not gonna retract from overall quality.
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Dec 10, 2013
I'm still 2 eps behind but in the last few eps Wonderland picked up in being interesting. The first eps were awful. Alice is horrid but when they started to focus on Will, The Red Queen, and Jafar, it got more interesting. i had really liked the trailer but then they made Alice into a swashbuckler which was very unbelievable. So anything with her and her Genie just blows. And the cgi animal people suck too.
So just as i was about to throw it back to the wolves, it fixed itself up somewhat.
And I personally didnt care for OUAT in its first eps either besides the Rumplestilskin eps.
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Dec 10, 2013
Anyone else feel extra sorry for Charming? He went to hell and back to make Snow his bride and it was obvious he was looking forward to finally getting a little something. He had to beg her to go on a honeymoon and then she ran away within minutes of their arrival at the summer castle. I guess they don't know about quickies in FTL.
When she finally decided to let him get to 2nd base she wanted to go for broke and get pregnant. "Babies must be made tonight or Regina wins." That's some hot honeymoon pillow talk.
The longer the show is on, the more I really hate her. And can wardrobe please stop dressing her like a 12 year old?
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Dec 10, 2013
Ahahaha I totally felt sorry for poor Charming! Guy just wanted to have some fun LOL
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Dec 10, 2013
I REALLY hope they do the Robbie Kay / Jared switch.
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Dec 10, 2013
YAY the blue fairy is gone!!! Errr... I mean... that was sad (not). Seriously. I liked her back in (I think it was) season 1 when we had the backstory with her and Grumpy. But then all of a sudden she became a snobby, dream-killing, wing-stealing control freak and any sympathy I had for her went out the window. I'm not upset that she died, at all :D

I did like that it was Emma who discovered Henry wasn't Henry. I really would love for Robbie Kay to stick around (maybe they'll switch bodies, wipe Pan's memories, and then he can stay as a different person).

I hope we get to see more of the situation for Philip/Aurora/Mulan/Robin Hood, too...then again, maybe this curse will work, and one of them will be the one who saves it. Plus, poor Ariel... she finally finds Eric (and how cute was it that he just kissed her right away? I mean, he violently chopped off the head of a fish first, but still) and now this.

As for this:

"Because Pan had stolen The Curse! The First Curse! Which will reset everyone to where they are from and rob them of their memories again! Which requires the heart of the one you love most to cast, so we should be safe unless, against all odds, the writers gloss over that or find some kind of macguffin-y workaround."

... I wonder if that's what Felix is for? Maybe Pan cares about him most because he has been with him longest, or because he was his most loyal follower or maybe I'm grasping at straws? Either way, if Pan does rip out a heart, you can bet he'll be standing next to them when he does it, which just so happens to be where Felix is now. Either that, or that's what he's really trying to do when he is fighting Rumple in the shop. That would also technically relate to Rumple's prophecy (I was never convinced it pertained to Henry).
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Dec 10, 2013
Err... The Blue Fairy was not the one involved with Grumpy. She was the one who split them up! Although I didn't really like her, it was kinda nice to have someone who has powers and is not evil! What are they gonna do now?
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Dec 12, 2013
Err...well she definitely wasn't "not evil". I don't remember everything about her character, but I do remember her splitting Grumpy and the other fairy up and also her taking Tinks wings for trying to help Regina. The Regina that still had some good, before she turned evil. She did other stuff I can't remember but yeah, just what I named doesn't make her exactly good.
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Dec 12, 2013
Well, she was a bit inflexible, but she was what you could call a "good" fairy. At least, as I said, she wasn't evil! Right now, in Storybrooke, only Regina, the EVIL Queen (though I really like her and think she's not that evil after all...) and Gold, Aka Rumplstiltskin the DARK ONE (But here again I like him and think he did everything for a (good) reason, but still... he killed quite a lot of people!!!) and Peter Pan (this season's villain) are able to do magic! So yeah, I think they'll probably miss her, since the Charmings will probably NEVER be able to trust Regina and Gold because that's how (stupid) they are.
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Dec 12, 2013
Emma can do magic, too, don't forget. I mean, she hasn't done much to date, but I'm sure it will grow.
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Dec 10, 2013
Oops my bad. So much has happened
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Dec 10, 2013
Yes please, more Mulan/Aurora! Oh, and Phillip, I guess. And Robin Hood. But mostly SLEEPING WARRIOR!

I wondered if that's what Pan wanted Felix for, too. But I don't think it is. I think he values Felix for his loyalty and whatnot, but I don't see him being the thing Pan loves most. I'd say that's Rumple. We know he's already sacrificed him once (though he didn't die that time). It's highly likely he'll do it again.
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Dec 10, 2013
I also think Pan will try to sacrifice Rumple to cast the Curse- but it's hard to believe that he really loves anybody!
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Dec 10, 2013
I'd say he loves himself, but I doubt he can rule if he's dead!
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Dec 10, 2013
Finally just watched last night's episode. Had family in town all weekend until this afternoon (yay early Christmas!!). On with it!!


1. In all honesty, I wish they would. It's not that I don't like Jared Gilmore, but I strongly feel Robbie Kay's acting chops are much more developed than Jared's. I feel like Jared needs another role (TV, small movie part, something) to develop a bit more.

2. Completely agree!! There was talk of them getting their own place back in Season 2...what happened to that?! Is the wonderful maid, who was pushed out of the clock tower by Cora/Regina, still using her house? I think it's been long enough to give respects...throw all your crap into the back of that beat up pickup and honeymoon it up!

3. Apparently, if they're going to force the chemistry with Emma, then they decided to just force it everywhere. Ugh...I may not ship #SwanQueen as hard as you, Lily, but I at least agree that there's gotta be someone better than NealFireDarling.

4.There was a purple cloud and a green cloud. When they mix, it'll turn brown and all the sh*t will finally hit the fan!! (Srsly tho...my guess is that they'll cliffhanger it just like the last 2 mid-season finales. When will we get back to Aurora/Phillip/Mulan/Robin/Rapunzel/new villain?)
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Dec 10, 2013
Maybe the purple cloud and the green one cancel each other out completely, and we come back after break with everything exactly the way it is now? Hooray for useless pyrotechnics!
But it might also rebound everything and send them back to (mostly magicless) FTL- I'm not sure which I'd rather redeem my plot coupons for.
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Dec 10, 2013
um point of contention - accents ARE physical... it is actually more realistic that Pan in Henry's body sounds american and vice versa, it's largely to do with how your mouth has developed to form words!
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Dec 10, 2013
While mouths and vocal cords do influence the timbre of a voice (Barbra Streisand famously insured her nose because damage to it would change her singing voice)- it's much more complicated than that. The pronunciations one hears as a child frame the way you make sounds for the rest of your life. That's why so many people want to speak multiple languages to their toddlers- get the sounds in there before the hardwiring takes!
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Dec 10, 2013
As someone who speaks 3 languages and has a very strong American accent even though I've lived in Australia since I was 12 (and have never even been to the U.S.!? I blame my Canadian english teacher & American TV shows) I have to agree with Lily's point below.
Since the age of 8 I've had to learn 3 extra languages due to moving around (and changing bodies) but my mouth hasn't magically changed shape with each language. Except for when I speak gibberish - my mouth runs toward my ear and my tongue grows a wart.
In all seriousness, have you not seen actors do accents before? They do it all the time. For example an English actor might do an American accent for a role and vice-versa. Some actors can do multiple accents without breaking a sweat (Gary Oldman is a good example). If it was physical and if "the shape of our mouth" contributed so much, the exercise wouldn't be as common.
Maybe Jared Gilmore couldn't do an English accent (or Robbie Kay couldn't do American? Or both.) so TPTB just let both actors keep their natural accents.
However, I have to disagree with your theory that it's strictly a physical thing - because I am telling you from personal experience that it isn't. If anything, it comes down to experience and the environment. I can easily do an Australian, Eastern European or German accent because I've been around people with these accents my entire life. I can't however do a Scottish accent because I haven't been around Scottish people as much. Actors however have the luxury/opportunity to learn the art of doing "accents". Just like people can learn different languages. Yes some people are better at it then others but the way your mouth is shaped usually doesn't have anything to do with it.
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Dec 10, 2013
I am going to contend with this, your mouth wouldn't be shaped differently if you were raised to speak another language, that's why people can learn other languages and usually affect other accents pretty easily (I can do a very strong Australian and a fantastic French when I'm buzzed) I'll agree the muscles in your tongue/mouth get used to working a certain way on syllables but if Henry's mind is in Pan's body using underdeveloped "hard r" muscles he'd be simply pronouncing American words slightly wrong, not speaking in a strong British accent.
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Dec 10, 2013
Petition? Robbie Kay as Henry for good? Gilmore should be in school not annoying us (well me anyway) with his dodgy acting, Kay makes sense on so many levels; better actor, nicer accent (I don't care if its not logical), he's older allowing him to work more consistently and most of all his portrayal of Henry isn't as irritating as fuck (to me).
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Dec 10, 2013
what the fuck were snow and charming doing at the dinner anyway when they knew neal was trying to set up the whole date me or else thing? i mean, clingy parents much. what were they going to do sit there and watch while some asshole who's already fucked and fucked over their daughter tries to make a play so he can do it again? worst.writing.ever
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Dec 10, 2013
awkward... LOL
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Dec 10, 2013
Hahaha then again Granny's is the single solitary business in town apart from an abandoned sardine cannery, Game of Thorns and Eric's Fresh Fish Head stand so where else can they go for a warm meal?
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Dec 10, 2013
Back to the apartment they know is empty? But then they'd have to cook...
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Dec 10, 2013
... Are they going to make the Jared/Robbie Kay switch permanent? No. Right? No. But what if they did? How insane would that be? YES please we need a older looking Henry....
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Dec 10, 2013
Here enjoy better photo recap - http://teenwolfmixtapes.tumblr.com/post/69515991800/ouat-3x10-the-new-neverland-recap




ps. not written by me. just spreading the word :D
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Dec 10, 2013
I think Medusa is in Storybrooke and maybe she is the new villain...
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Dec 10, 2013
These captions just get worse and worse. What happened to the person who did them for VD?

I mean come on, one image has writing literally all over it, they're supposed to be short, funny and to the point, not an entire paragraph!
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Dec 09, 2013
Greek mythology? No, Once Upon a Time. Just no. Stop grab-bagging characters from...wherever. Next up? Sherlock, Clifford the Big Red Dog, Tom Sawyer, Gandalf, and whatever else the writers happen to scan on their bookshelf.

Also, Medusa would be a lot safer if she didn't hang out RIGHT by the front door. When Snow and Charming (nice blue leather jacket, BTW. Does Prince know you have it?) were trying to escape, I was like "THE DOOR IS RIGHT. THERE!"

I liked the Charming/Emma conversation. It felt more like realistic bonding than anything Snow/Emma have done this year. I think we've found where David actually excels here: he's a pretty good listener.

I'll bet Hook smells worse than an AXE factory at this point. We get it, you're a pirate. Get some slacks! If Ariel can find some hooker heels, surely David's got something you can borrow. You can even keep the guyliner. And be more slutty pirate and hit on all the ladies in Storybrooke. That would be delightfully creepy.

We finally know the Blue Fairy was the biggest bitch in Storybrooke. Even Regina compliments people SOMETIMES. Glad you're dead, Blue Fairy!
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Dec 10, 2013
If they're playing with Greek mythology, why not and Norse? I'd like to see Loki wander in- too bad he's making another movie.
I agree that Hook needs to take off the jacket- there's gotta be a dry cleaner somewhere in town. But what would they give him to wear in the meantime? Scary or silly...
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Dec 10, 2013
I could totally see Hook in hard rock attire (black boots, mostly black shirts, holey jeans, etc.). Too bad David's wardrobe is too Stepford husband for Hook's personality.
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Dec 11, 2013
Basically, Hook would look like a guy who got lost finding the set for Sons of Anarchy.
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Dec 10, 2013
Why shouldn't they take from Greek mythology? Fairy tales, folk lore and mythology are generally lumped into one study. The Aarne-Thompson system to classify is used to classify all of those sorts of stories. I'm much happier with OUAT delving into mythology than Frankenstein.
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Dec 10, 2013
Technically...Disney did Hercules so that's where they're cherry-pickin' from. Like you, though, I hope they don't keep it canon.
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Dec 09, 2013
I can watch regina fall down all day. Lol. I thought this was one of the better episodes this season. And it was great to see Belle and Ariel openning the episode out.
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Dec 09, 2013
Yes, I too would like some episodes involving everyday drama. No more Apocalypse type events that don't allow for anything else. C'mon Jane Epenson, you wrote for Buffy and that show balanced it all out.
Maybe if we do get a cursed town, we'd get exactly that.
And where is Happy to get bummed that now that Snow is back, all hell is breaking loose once again?
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Dec 10, 2013
Leaving my dislike of Buffy out, writers have to walk a fine line between everyday drama and big story arc stuff. A lot of people got frustrated with BSG in its later seasons when it focusing on characters' lives rather than the big arc (though personally season three is my favorite).
I'm not saying having a more everyday episode would necessarily be a bad thing, but probably half the fandom would be screaming about the show turning into a soap opera and ignoring the big picture and filler episodes, blah blah blah. Whereas now they just have half the fandom screaming about there's always something, can't we ever have an episode about personal lives, blah blah blah. Can't please everyone.
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Dec 09, 2013
I hate this idea when they first did it was great because we had the added wonder of guessing who everyone was in thier fairytale personality now that the curiosity is over whats holding us in
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