Once Upon a Time "We Are Both" Review: The Un-Evil Queen

Once Upon a Time S02E02: "We Are Both"

Last night's episode of Once Upon a Time was kind of like the cookie segment of an Oreo: It was not the frosting. There was a conspicuous absence of certain favorite characters: Emma, Snow, and Belle in an oversized men’s shirt with bedhead, for example, but much like the cookie part of the Oreo, the episode had substance, provided necessary structure, and was pretty great in and of itself (as long as you weren’t constantly thinking, where my frosting? WHERE MY SWEET FROSSING?).

Once my disappointment faded after the first act made it clear that we were not to expect any intercutting betwixt present-day fairy-tale world and Storybrooke, I was honestly surprised by how much I loved "We Are Both." No joke, this might be one of my favorite episodes from the entire series, for three reasons:

1. Lana Parrilla.

2. Storybrooke right now, seriously amazing, can we all rent houses along a street in Maine and just recreate it cosplay-style for a week guys come on who’s with me?

3. The 10th Kingdom. Like many of you, I am obsessed with The 10th Kingdom and dammit if this episode didn’t lay down a scaffolding to turn OUaT’s second season into one long extended sequel.

The world of woken-up Storybrooke is one of the more surreal thesis statements to play out on television (since, say, Lost, perhaps!). It was audacious how devastated the writers made the town after a single trip from the wraith: broken curbs, overturned cars, apocalyptic damage in broad daylight . And the conceit of an “invisible line” similar to the one in The Village of the Damned is so fantastically creepy, and more importantly ups the stakes and gives characters an almost irresistible choice: to wipe the slate.

Although seriously there’s never been a better time to stay in Storybrooke, what with the free counseling and first aid and people openly discussing stuff like wraiths and “our prince.” The town’s confusion over its mixed identities was exhilarating and consistent with how modern people would react if they remembered how they used to say, live in a shoe...

...and I loved and cannot praise highly enough the realism in approaching such a batshit crazy premise.

I had the same question about whether or not the nuns would start dating. As much as we’re all revving to get to fairy-tale land (FTL, as I’ve noticed y’all been saying), Storybrooke is a much more interesting and conflicted place when you view it on a grand scale through a realist filter, as the writers have wisely elected to do. OUaT even dropped its snails pace for once and worked from premise to conclusion in one episode: The premise is that crossing this line means a fresh start, the logical conclusion is that all the Storybrooke characters hop in their cars and head for the line to escape the Evil Queen/their own emotional chaos. Dark, right?

I’m sure “crossing the line” will continue to be an issue and an option, but the fact that the writers had the Storybrooke characters caravan there en masse was incredibly dark (they are in THAT MUCH pain and fear) and forced a point I thought the show would drag out for weeks. And having Charming go down to the threshold and literally and figuratively turn the town around was a huge redemptive moment, for the town and for a character that up ‘til now has been pretty terrible. I asked once in a Season 1 review what this show could possibly do to make me forgive David Nolan; well, having Charming hop up into a truck bed and explain David as representing the weakest part of his nature is a good start.

Although I did not fly across the room at a single flick of her wrist, Lana Parrilla seriously blew me away last night. As did Granny firing a crossbow. (Was she just carrying a cross bowaround town? Oh, Granny.)

Seriously Lana Parrilla is a national treasure and it's hard to imagine what this show would be like without the complexity and sympathy she gives Regina, and for once her dialogue wasn’t in opposition to her subtlety. The introspection and growth of our increasingly sympathetic and un-Evil Queen was written with incredible care and made a lot out of parallels between the way her mother had abusively smothered her and the way she was hurting Henry.

While her return to the town was full of sound and fury, the fact that she ultimately swept out of the room once Henry came back to her was infinitely touching to me. She doesn’t want to pursue their misery anymore, she just wants her own happiness. And her pitch to Henry—her promise to be honest with him and even make the house a Hogwarts homeschool, personally I would have found that irresistible, even if that cupcake didn’t look so great. Carby! Too carby for me, sorry.

Defying all our expectations, Regina actually changed after being rejected by her son. She learned a lesson from her conflicted memories of her mother and gave her son some agency. Layering her progress back toward magic with the reveal she had learned everything from Rumplestiltskin was certainly a game change, one that shifts more of the responsibility for the town’s ultimate renewal onto Mr. Gold. This second episode went a long way in establishing that Regina is not the ultimate villain, the real Evil Queen was her power-hungry mother Cora, who warped her and who is returning, 10th Kingdom-like, to the show.

If any of you have not seen The 10th Kingdom, vomit right now at your work desk and go home “sick” and watch it on Netflix because WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH YOUR LIFE?

For those of you who have, the mirror portal was totally ripped from that series, n’est pas? And Cora is a true analog for the Evil Queen (and mother of the hero) in 10th Kingdom, right down to her costume.

And the fact they’re running into her in a prison, look... I don’t want to put spoilers in here for people who haven’t seen 10th Kingdom, but trust me when I say there is a lot, a LOT Of homage stuff going on here and far from being peeved about it, I am very excited at how dark, weird, twisted, and fantastic this could go. Just the fact that Disney Princesses are unabashedly dragging their prisoners behind them on horses into a Mad Max encampment really says it all. Mulan, WTF? Aurora, you DESERVED that knee to the crotch!

So while I certainly felt initially cheated by the way this episode sidestepped picking up on last week’s excellent cliffhanger, if we spent the hour on the “B” storyline, that is saying a hell of a lot about how intense this show can be, because this episode was completely engrossing. There were so many great decisons here I haven’t even touched on! Allow me to list them OCD-style right here:

1. Regina obtained, but did not destroy her mother’s spellbook.

2. Charming knows the Enchanted Forest exists.

3. Jefferson and Charming are in touch.

4. Rumplestiltskin and Charming have agreed to stay out of each other’s way. (Okay, honestly that one I’m not so sure about. Considering they are essentially the hero and the villain, doesn’t that just mean they’re going to delay an inevitable conflict? Whatevs.)

And of course, the emergence of a bigger, badder, unpredictable Evil Queen is a huge game change. Next week, yes, had better be about Emma and Snow... but even coming after an outrageously fantastic premiere, this second episode managed to be somehow even more engrossing. Five stars, you maniacs at OUaT. You glorious maniacs.

QUESTIONS:

– Why did Rumple smash his sparkling glass counters when he found out about crossing the line?

– Will Cora seek vengeance on Regina or be proud of how evil she became?

– Will Snow immediately recognize Cora?

– Just how many portals are floating around on this show?

– What do you think Belle was doing this episode?

– Did Aurora deserve getting kneed in the crotch?

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The whole idea that Regina is just misunderstood and a victim worked well the first third of the season, took a bit of a twist when Cora was in town, but now seems old and tired. That said, this episode did have its highlights.

More on my thoughts here:

http://iamthemissinglinc.blogspot.com/2013/04/once-upon-time-recap-evil-queen.html
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If I'm not mistaken Rumplegold was packing maps of New York, right? New York, the city where was the unknown character of the premiere...Baelfire is that you?



And am I the only one who wants to hug Regina and tells her it's gonna be okay, that she doesn't have to be evil, and work together through that little dark magic addiction.
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1. In the finale he was planning a trip once the spell was broken remember? Now he's stuck.

2. Both

3. Most likely yeah I mean she's pretty recognizable.

4. A bean, a hat, a wardrobe, and probably one more to get Emma and Snow home.

5. Getting much needed fresh air.

6. Hey when someone abducts you it's your right to knee them in order to get away, it's in the handbook: How to Avoid the Suspicious White Van,\
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This series keeps pushing the the barriers of expectation! I was amazed how dark, how real and how awesome this episode was! There are so many character conflicts and layers of complexity and I look forward to watching how it all plays out. Love The 10th Kingdom and definitely see some of the references or homages etc...
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Why did Rumple smash his sparkling glass counters when he found out about crossing the line?

=> Because we saw him packing maps (which was kinda cute btw), but if he looses his memory, he won't be able to look for his son, and he and Belle will "forget" each other, so he's stuck.



Will Cora seek vengeance on Regina or be proud of how evil she became?

=> VENGEANCE (or so I hope!)



Will Snow immediately recognize Cora?

=> She might not remember her (since she was an annoyingly sweet but stupid kid when she last saw her...).



Just how many portals are floating around on this show?

=> No idea, but more importantly: WHERE ARE Snow and Emma right now??? If Cora's there, it means it's yet another land... but where? 'cause it looks a LOT like a devastated fairy-tale world, and they even know the Evil Queen there, and Aurora comes from the fairy-tale world, since Maleficent met with Regina, and then was in the "real world" 'cause of Regina's curse... so, if Cora was supposedly sent to a "tiny insignificant world", then WHY is Aurora here too? WTF happened?



What do you think Belle was doing this episode?

=> Don't know, but I hope she was asleep because of the sleepless sex night she just had with Gold (28 years of abstinence, guys!)



Did Aurora deserve getting kneed in the crotch?

=> YES! Please, do it again until she learns how to defend herself (and not rely on princes!)
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I'm hoping Aurora and Emma will be sparring partners when Lancelot teaches them how to properly use swords! (contemplates visual) Yeah!
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Rumple/Gold's plan all along was for Emma to break the curse so that he could leave Storybrooke to search for Baelfire - that is why he smashed his glass counters and was seen staring at the line at the end of the show. If he leaves town, will he lose his memory?



Also, is it possible that when Cora went "through the looking glass" portal she went to Wonderland and became the Queen of Hearts? Just a theory...and it might explain how Regina's father Henry ended up trapped there.

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I'm a little afraid that Belle has gone ahead to wherever Mr. Gold was going. Perhaps that's why he smashed his case, because he knows that A) he can't go after her and B) even if he did, they wouldn't remember each other.



I hope that's not the case!
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omg i love this!....i love this show & now i have to watch 10th Kingdom :p



i think rumple smashed his counters because according to the maps he was packing before he heard the news he was plan to leave story brook...who knows why...? maybe it hd to do with Belle and/or his promise to her
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I love Lana Parrilla! She makes the show watchable for me:)
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I absolutely love the way you compare everything on this show to The 10th Kingdom. It's my all-time favorite show/mini-series. Did you catch the reference (intentional or otherwise) when Grumpy came on screen crying, "Terrible news! Terrible news!"? I heard the line in a British accent and fully expected him to add that the queen had escaped. Then I realized I wasn't watching T10K.



P.S. I love your reviews. They make watching OUaT at least ten times more enjoyable. And probably a lot more than that, because I suck at math.
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Have I mentioned how great Lana's outfits were for this episode? I want that dark-chocolate-truffle of a dress in your first posted pic- even though it wouldn't look nearly as well on me as on her. But if someone else has called Regina for the cosplay weekend, then I want Maleficient! (I would love to portray Granny, but I'm not allowed to play with crossbows anymore...)
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1. Because he was majorly pissed off?2. She'll be proud and seek revenge 3. Hopefully! 4. As many as the stories need :) 5. Who cares, I don't really like Belle 6. Definitely, mulan would deserve it even more, she is completely annoying..... Regina was FAB!!!!!
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"If any of you have not seen The 10th Kingdom, vomit right now at your work desk and go home "sick" and watch it on Netflix because WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH YOUR LIFE? "

And this tone is why I LOVE your episode reviews. As well as the fact that I completely share this opinion :)

As for ?s

1. I'd assume cuz he couldn't immediately go search for his son as was his plan the whole time.

2. For sure vengeance.

3. She damn well better! The characters have all their old memories now so no more airheadedness from Mary Margaret.

4. As many as the writing staff can make believable.

5. Was half an hour into the ep. before I asked myself that.

6. Yes, don't mess with a woman's kid/adult/reunited family person!

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"Why did Rumple smash his sparkling glass counters when he found out about crossing the line?"



i don't think it is because he thinks his son has no recollection of him since his son did not arrive to storybrooke through the curse but he went to the other world through a portal.



i think he is mad because he thinks he has lost bella forever who he presumes has ventured out of story brooke unbeknownst of the memory loss. that is why he was standing at the line worrying how she might be doing without remembering who she is.
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I think he's mad becuase it means that HE can't leave to search for Bael. I don't think Belle would have left him. not after alst week. Seh is convinced that she needs to stay to help him become a better person
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Best line of the SERIES! - "It's so simple, even David Nolan can do it." Oh Rumple, you sexy sparkling ball of wit and venom. Dump your prudish gf from FairyNewZealand and let's make lots of BaeBaes.
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Hmm, I totally forgot to mention that Pinocs was shown in the very beginning... then gone!! What the H-E-Double Hockey Sticks is up witha dat?
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You've actually given me a good reason NOT to view "The 10th Kingdom" (which, BTW, I have never even heard of): I prefer watching OUaT without the needless comparisons to a movie that it's not even connected to. I would find that just as annoying as all the fan-girls who are all "Gilmore Girls" weepy-eyed over perceived connections in "Bunheads". I watch "Bunheads" - and OUaT - on their own merits.



I was just relieved to read a review that did not mention even once Emma's hair. That particular bone has been chewed to death. It's time to bury it.
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As long as we bury the hair too, I'm okay with that.
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Actually producers Kitsis and Horowitz said in an interview that 10th Kingdom inspired OUAT. They basically directly took the premise and reworked it. But feel free not to watch it as it kind of requires a sense of humor to enjoy.
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I thought they admitted to stealing the premise from Fables?
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Oh, snap!



Lily, I actually watched "The 10th Kingdom" over the summer because of your recommendation, and I loved it. So, thanks!
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lol...loved The 10th Kingdom (awesome movie, awesome wolf :D), it was the whole reason i started watching this series...I`m glad i`m not the only one compares the two...



1.I have a feeling that in FTL Rumple has lived a very very long life running a long con to get someone strong enough to get them to this world. After losing his son, his sole purpose was to scheme and wait and scheme again...trying to corrupt the corruptible to get someone to the point of using that magic spell to take him to the other world in which his son was... after he found Regina to fulfill his wish he made it so Snow would have the way to brake the curse on the other side (of course Gepetto got in the way a little but it still worked out) so he could go out and search for Bae. so after waiting patiently for so many years (including the ones in Stoorybrook), just when he thought he reached his goal it turned out that he was as far away from his end game as before... for me, it would have felt weird if he hadn`t lost it a little bit, he was always emotional when it came to his son.



i was thinking that maybe the curse had a time travel element hidden in it...to make sense finding Bae alive...maybe Bae is supposed to arrive only after th curse got broken so he might be a scared little boy in a big unfamiliar world, hence the urgency of leaving.



2. i don`t have a clue what is in Cora`s mind right now but i think she might be the reason why that piece of land remained intact in FTL... maybe her exiling curse protected the land she had been exiled too



3. She was a little kid...i woudn`t remember someone i met so long ago.



4. Owing to the fact that Cora is still in FTL, the mirror wasn`t a portal to another world so this leaves us only with the hat so far



5. Hopefully sleeping as Mr. Gold got her way to exhausted the previous night... one can hope right? :D



6. I didn`t really like Aurora the last episode, but it`s understandable as she slept through the whole drama...it`s hard to feel the true dept of a problem if you have only heard about it, but i hope the death of her loved one made the problem real so being kicked was a plus she probably didn`t need... What i absolutely hated was that they have taken Emma and Snow prisoners without even hearing them out... that was useless, dumb and cruel ( i get it that they were both hurt for losing the man they loved but taking it out on these two was a little extreme)
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1). I think he's been looking for his son this whole time, and his reaction was due to the realization that if his son had been sent through to earth. Storybrooke in particular, he might forget all about his life and his father. Then again I could be Super Wrong, as I oft am.

2). I think - I HOPE - they're setting Kora up to be the REAL evil queen. I imagine even if she does eventually take vengeance on Regina, she's going to use her power to her advantage, or at least try to. If not, I imagine Regina wouldn't be going through a redemptive arc so early on. Cora will proabably arrive at some point in season 2 to Storybrooke and any progress Regina will have made by then, she'll try to undo. Regina was the original baddie. Now they're trying to bring in someone WORSE. Either by the end of the season, Cora will be dead, and Regina worse than ever, or else Cora will be the new evil queen, and Regina will be on the good side.

3). Yup.

4). I don't have ALL the answers.

5). Wearing boring clothes.

6). Yes! Her character annoys me a little. Please develop Aurora a little, and soon.
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1. Because ultimately his whole plan was to find Bae and he had to realize this meant he and Belle would be able to leave and really should do it as soon as possible before anything more happened (randomly, like, the characters are slowly each pulled back into the FTL meaning Bae is out of reach) and he is basically still an emotionally based creature. But, I wonder what would happen to Rumple, Regina, Emma, Henry and August if they crossed the line.



2. This isn't directly connected...but, I was having this thought that while Regina is the Evil Queen, I am kind of equating her with Ben from Lost. Like, ultimately, she will be redeemed but she will still do shady things and will never be fully trusted even when she is good. So, Cora is probably like bad Locke...Anyway....I had this random thought that at like the end of Season 3 the focus, though the Charming family is still the center, but the other big Disney bads that we haven't heard from to me seem to be Ursula, Jafar, and the Lion King who is skipping my mind right now. And so, we might meet, Ariel, Aladdin or Simba around then. But, you have to dial back Regina first and Cora is the way to make her totally understandable.



3. I imagine Snow will, though, I am not sure people I met briefly when I was 12-14 made a huge impact. But I am not sure what will be Snow's reaction. I don't know what help Cora might provide (if she had her powers, why is she there?) I also wonder if Emma wasn't kidding about her ability to snuff out the truth, which might work as a a magic power wherever they are.



4. Well, I am sure someone counted the doors in that room, but I am guessing there are a limited amount of portals and portal jumpers are supposed to be assigned to them. I won't be surprised if Jefferson returns to his house after his run in with Charming and finds a mirror like Rumple presented Regina with in the episode.



5. Finding a bookstore...



6. Deserve? I don't know, how whiney was she on the trek? I do think that Snow and Emma made the one big mistake...they ran in the same direction. If one of them got away, they could save the other. Mulan was the only one who seems ready to stop them at that far away, so it is unlikely they would both get caught...
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I loved this episode...even if i missed Emma and Snow...i am not so into Belle so don't mind if i don't see her a episode...



I liked regina from the first episode...as she is fantastic in changing from emotions in seconds and she is able to show that with her eyes...just great. This episode i loved her even more....and i thought it was nice to see her as a good person, before she got corrupted by Rumpel...



I still think that Charming is as lame as when he was David...i mean you promise to solve all the problems and let the people meet up and in meantime he was chasing the Hat guy...and missed the whole Regina getting Henry part...which was awesome...Then he came in to her house with a sword...come on...like that is going to work against Regina...??? She had you on the wall with tree stuff...come on... I like Red...she is not afraid and tries to keep things together...!!



Hope next episode we get to see Emma and Snow as i want to know how that is going to work out with Cora...i wonder if Snow will recognise Cora...!! I haven't watched the 10th kingdom thing...don't need to either....I like the Cora the way she is in this series...!!







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Yeah, Lana Parrilla is amazing. I'm just a little annoyed at how her character is going back and forth with the whole being evil thing. All the time Regina is reminded of her being evil, usually by Henry, and then she tries to be good. But then she slips back to being evil, even though just a while ago she saw it was a bad option for her and it would be more beneficial to be good. It raises the question: when will she learn?

I understand that she needs to be evil for the story, after all, she is the Evil Queen. She is there as the nemesis. Without her there is only the wizard goblin Rumplestiltskin. But if she is going to be evil, she should be so properly, not be bi-polar about it. I understand that being absolutely evil is one-dimensional, but that's what it takes for the character to be truly fearsome. As it is now, Regina is not completely believable. What's the point of fearing her, if only a few moments later she'll turn around and be nice again? By now she must have realized many times over that Henry and the other people don't like her because of her evilness, so why not just turn good? Problem solved. If she sees the benefit of being good, what is her motivation for picking on people?

That's the issue with evil characters that get ethical qualms. They have all the reason to abandon their evilness and all the reason to turn good. And when that happens, the story loses its bad guy. That's the reason why old fairly tales have characters that are pure evil. They serve as constants against the good forces. Did Darth Vader or Emperor Palpatine ever sit down to think about the moral outcomes of their actions? No. Darth Vader only did something good at the very end and that brought him "salvation". But with Regina I don't see the reason for her odd behaviour. Yes, she was hurt when she was young, and that could serve as a good explanation for why her heart has turned into stone. However, she abandons her evil ways so often that one would imagine she would understand at some point to remain good. Didn't killing Henry once teach her that forcing him to come home with her from the town hall isn't the best plan of action? She is always talking about wanting to do what's best for Henry, but she has a funny way of showing it. If she is going to realize at the end of every episode that being good is the way to go, it kind of undercuts her image as a bad girl.

I have other suggestions how to portray her good side: Rare glimpses of momentary compassion every now and then would work. That would show that she still has a tiny spark of humanity left. Or maybe have her be truly bad throughout the series, only to turn her good at the very end. Or then she could turn completely good now, get the respect of the people and work with them, while another character becomes the new evil force, e.g her mother.
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I don't think Emma's son is the reincarnation of Regina's dad.

Agree with part of your assessment of Regina- she isn't going to accomplish much in Storybrooke as it stands unless she gets the respect of its inhabitants. However, I doubt she will get that (as opposed to the terrified acquiesence she's already got) without Henry, because he's the only one she cares about.

She hates Snow, Charming, Emma, and a few others- the rest she doesn't care enough about to hate, but doesn't really care for either. So those tiny moments of compassion you seek will best be revealed by her interactions with the boy she raised.
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"Heartless Art Department Prank" makes Mad Hatter look like Emmy winner Peter Dinklage.
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Rumps was dedicated to find his child since the very time Bale dissapeared. I don't quite understand the mechanics yet, but he gave magic to Cora, so he could approach Regina in the right time and make her Evil Queen. By making Regina's life miserable through magic, she would eventualy end up casting the curse he'd gave to her, and therefore taking all people (including Rumps) to the world Bale lives in. Rumps couldn't cast the curse himself as it required to kill someone he trully loved; as he thought Belle was dead he didn't have anyone suitable at all. And now Rumps is in the right world, he can go to find his son because of the damn curse. I think this is a very good reason to start broking things around.

On the subject of the mistery man, I don't know if he is Bale or any other guy (maybe the one who wrote Henry's book), but I think that the one who doved him the message was either the Blue Fairy (she creeps me out for no reason) or Pinoccio. Why? Well, Pinoccio and her were muttering things before, and he is the only other one who we know he was outside Storybrooke. As Pinoccio was in bed at the time, my bet is on the wicked Blue Fairy who sent Bale to the real world in the first time.
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Man, I was totally thinking Cora would turn out to be The Evil Queen of Hearts from Alice in Wonderland. Come on, Rumps said "an annoying land" and bla bla whatever I don't remember but it totally hinted at Wonderland. (Even thought 'Alice in Wonderland' is one of my favorite stories, I knew he was talking aboot it.) Anyway, love love love this show.
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oh my god shut up about the 10th kingdom already! dont want to be rude but ugggg
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There are like a million less-rude ways to phrase this. When someone says "shut up" to a stranger I just assume their mom was too busy pushing a shopping cart around a highway to teach them manners.
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sorry, i just wrote down what i actually said out loud when i finished your review, i get that you like it and that they're connected but i would really apreciate centering more on OUaT, since it's supposed to be a OUaT review
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Lily, I love you. Please marry me.
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Sorry, but I am not on board w/this episode, 10th Kingdom parallels aside. This was the biggest joke of an episode in the entire series. I can't believe you thought it was excellent and dark that the characters wanted to obliterate their fairy tale memories. I thought it was ridiculous. First Grumpy runs in shouting "terrible news" and next thing you know he's all for throwing himself over the line because he can't handle - What, exactly? Everyone he knows is in Storybrooke and it's not like the town is a terrible place. And let's be honest, Regina is not really all that terrifying even with magic as long as they attack her en masse. Also, Charming gave that god-awful, cheesy, unconvincing speech about how David was lame, but that somehow having been David made him a better person. Really all this episode and that speech proved is that the Prince is as useless of a person as Charming as he is as David. And I'm so glad Regina learned her lesson in the most ridic public service announcement conversation ever written for TV. If you love something, let it go. If it comes back, it really loves you. BLECH.
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Look, this show is no Breaking Bad. At a certain point you have to meet it on its own terms. I'm just so thankful they aren't still doing the procedural style one-off "here's a new character". The dialogue has always been atrocious because clearly the writers were chosen for their ability to plot a season-long arc and then they have the assistants write the dialogue in with a crayon 5 hours before shooting. I think Charming's real function in this episode was to explain to us how electricity would still be running and stores will still be functioning for the rest of the season- that remembering the ftl will not mean giving up every vestige of modernity.
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I understand what you're saying obviously, or I wouldn't watch this show, but I think that even by OUaT standards this episode was bad. If we could've just cut out all the rest, Regina's back-story would've been fine, but most of this episode was just fubar. Maybe I was unfair about Regina's change of heart concerning Henry, as for the rest though; I'm not asking for brilliant writing, just a plot line that's interesting and makes some sort of sense.
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Any Regina-centric episode is an automatic favorite for me because I get to watch Lana Parilla in action. Such an excellent casting choice...
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For starters I really hope we spend the majority of next weeks episode with Snow in the enchanted forest.

Anyways this episode made me really like Regina. Made feel conflicted towards her. I'm not the type of person who always have to root for the good guys, it's just I never felt any reason to sway towards the character, and I don't mean like sympathy. Same goes for David/Charming. I hated David, and any scene with that character not playing Charming. I'm glad to see him playing hero.

I'm sure Rumple wanted to go find Bae, but now I'm confused with time. Rumple was the Dark one when Regina was a baby. This ages Bae quite a bit, especially since even the time when he helped Regina get rid of her mom Snow was still very young. Why did he think August could be his son? Even with the time stopping, he'd still be a lot older before the spell.



I wonder if Pinocchio is wooden walking around or went back to being a real man?

When will people recognize Snow. I feel like her, charming, regina have the most recognizable faces to everyone in enchanted forest. Rumple too but I think it's different he wasn't in the spotlight just appearing to those who he could benefit from having them owe him favors.

Super excited for future episodes, the appearance of hook and hopefully theres peter pan, what the first full moon will be like for Red, does will she need the hood? Jefferson had a room with hats he made, but can't repair his own?
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Remember how Jefferson wanted Emma to make him a hat in "Hat Trick"? I suspect not everyone with the ability to use portals can repair them. (I can't fix my own car)

Time frame is the elephant in the room with FTL/Storybrooke- Gold couldn't tell Archie how old Bae was, remember? I'm guessing that the Curse was aimed to try to intercept Bae at the earliest point- doesn't mean it hit the target exactly. If the creator of the Dark Curse wasn't sure how old his son would be by now, it's awful tough for the rest of us to make sense of it!

The fact that Kitsis + Horowitz said Rumplestiltskin had been the Dark One for centuries before coming to Storybrooke makes me think that they want us all to be as confused as possible!
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I can't wait to see what Cora's reaction will be when she discovers that her husband is dead. And I wish they'd PLEASE tell us who Dr. Whale is.... :(
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I think we get more info on him episode 5. it's called 'The Doctor' so...
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That's good news :)
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Doctor who?
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Dr. Horrible?
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I see where TPTB are trying to go with this show. They are trying to garner sympathy for Regina and make her mother be the head biatch/evil queen. I'm not feeling this. While I'd like to see Cora be a bit more evil (we haven't seen her too much) I am really sick of Regina & I can't feel sorry for her. I want her to die right now. Sorry, had to rant for a second. Moving on, I really liked this episode. Finding out that Rumpel helped mold Regina just as much - or even more - than her mother did definitely puts a new spin on things. Before I answer the questions you posted, I have a question of my own: WHY did the denizens of Storybrooke have so much faith in Charming? I'm having a hard time understanding why they fell for his speech. Forget about what David did. Charming wasn't able to protect them all from Regina the first time around so why do they think he could protect them this time?



Why did Rumple smash his sparkling glass counters when he found out about crossing the line?----He did it in frustration because he'd been hoping he could leave the town.



Will Cora seek vengeance on Regina or be proud of how evil she became?----Both. I think she'll admire the misery that Regina has caused as well as be proud that Regina has so much power. But at the same time she's going to be pissed that Regina sent her into the portal.



Will Snow immediately recognize Cora?----I think so. I HOPE so.



Just how many portals are floating around on this show?----There's probably one on each street :P



What do you think Belle was doing this episode?----Probably napping :P Who knows...



Did Aurora deserve getting kneed in the crotch? ----Definitely.
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I totally agree with you. I hate the the Regina/EQ character - and not in the "you're supposed to hate her because she's evil" way. She is barely even portrayed as a villain. She is only used as a roadblock to the action of the story so the writers don't blow their wad too early. (I'm sorry that was graphic.) It's a really frustrating thing to watch. Every time Lana is on screen I can't wait for the scene to be over because I know it's going to be some impotent show of faux-power that leads nowhere important. I know everyone loves Lana, so let the booing commence. I just can't stand what they have done to her character(s).
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At least 3 of this episodes do lead somewhere! (Maybe not where you want to go. I grant) But the whole "I'm becoming my mother" dynamic will be important- we all hit that at some point in our lives. We now know when Regina first began to use magic and that Rumplestiltskin is part of the "What happened to Cora" equation. Lana isn't a match for Robert Carlyle (who could be? sigh) but she's a binding thread in the tapestry of this show.
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I type faster than my computer sometimes- "3 of this episode's scenes" is what that should say.
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Happens to me often. :) I agree she is a binding thread in this show, but it seems to be only because so many fairy tales had an Evil Queen or Wicked Stepmother figure. I'm sure they felt that type of character was a requirement. Really, if you removed her from the concept of the show and only used Rumple as the villain, what would be lost? Regina's motivations for trying to ruin everyone's happiness are laughably ridiculous. To be a villain, you have to be more than just a bitch. You have to be cunning, even occasionally likeable to fully engage in manipulation (a la Gold/Rump). Regina has seemed stupid, shallow, and completely ineffectual from the start. Both she and Rumple are trying to win back their sons. Both started out good and turned bad. Both have a hand in this curse. So why is it that I'm way more interested in seeing him find Baelfire (a character we have known for all of 15 minutes) than I am in Regina and Henry finding some semblance of a relationship? It's because they wrote Rumple well - dynamic, powerful, charming, corrupted. And they wrote Regina as a catfighting bitch who tries to threaten people with harsh words and ugly scowls but never follows through or gets put in her place. She is in a stasis of unsympathetic, unlikeable, underexplained "evil" with no real purpose. The show would be just as good without her character. I would much rather watch everyone rail exclusively against Rumple so the story could actually have some teeth. Again, I know I'm way in the minority on this. I just find her the least compelling of all the characters... and that includes Emma, which is quite a feat.
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Yes, I totally agree 100% with what you just wrote. I wish I could fast forward through her scenes, or at least mute them.
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I felt like this episode was the true beginning of the pay-off for me sticking with this awesome show. The dwarfs walking down main street with pick axes and Charming kicking down Regina's door with a SWORD are exactly the type of surreal scenes I have been picturing/dreaming of since I started watching. Can't wait for more!!!
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Im sorry but it doesnt matter how much you love 10th Kingdom. This episode should be burned and forgotten. No Emma and No Snow????? THEY ARE THE SHOW. without them it was just forced and pointless. Good Regina is no good for the show (But Lana Parrilla was amazing btw) she is the original evil-to-defeat in the show. She can turn good at the end of the show... or not at all. whatevs.



1. Because he has been planing a trip to somewhere since a while ago. (To find Bae)

2. Knowing Cora... she has been planing vengeance on Regina all this years.

3. I hope so. MM maybe would've. Snow is not dumb.

4. A LOT! Obviously. These people came from one, Bae from another, if the mystery guy is not Bae then he must've come from another, the hat, the mirror, the one Charming will use to rescue Emma and Snow... and all the ones writers are gonna invent to be just jumping through.

5. She was cleaning all of Mr. Gold's junk. (No pun intended.)

6. HELL YEAH! I dont like that pretentious little B^tch. And Aurora is my favorite disney princess. But in OUaT she's annoying.
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Dont get me wrong, I LOVE Robert and Lana, Rumple and Regina are great characters. BIG fan.

But the main plot is this: "Mother and father sent baby to another world to comeback and save them". And this episode lacked the mother and the savior, who btw, had just been sent to a world nobody knows and audience only gets 2mins on them? (2 mins completely useless, until Cora appeared).



PS. I hate Emma's every-second-of-my-life-perfect-hair too. But I dont hate her.
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I don't get why everyone is so upset that there was no Emma or Snow. It had RUMPLE AND REGINA!!!! and it was Regina-centric! As far as I'm concerned it was brilliant!! :-D
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I too felt initially very cheated and furious about Emma and Snow not getting airtime, but this show's m.o. is to frustrate the audience, so at least we got to enjoy some pretty wild imagery and Lana Parrilla's incredible skillz.
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I am a guy who always like shows about good guys (like Smallville , KyleXy and etc) and hate shows with a bad guys in a leading role like Dexter

but I think this is the only show I like where actually find the "Bad Guys" more compelling than the "Good Guys" I really find Emma,Snowwhite and Charming to be very weak and not quite Interesting. I watch the show because of Mr. Gold,( a Magnificent Bastard just like Lex Father from Smallville :) ) Regina and even Cora which really move to plot of the show.
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Completely disagree. I love Emma and Snow (altho Emma still needs to lose most of her hair), but this episode was pivotal and completely essential. It was good to see David/Charming step up and serve, to see Henry more aggressive, and to give more dimension to Regina. I still don't like her as an actress (I know I'm in a minority there), but as they build complexity into her character, I'm seeing more talent there. And Rumple has always been more of a big bad than Regina.
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Rumpel wants to find his son, he did not found him there, now he needs to explore!



I really hate Cora, but she's interesting, Now I'm eager to find out how she will play her cards.



And Aurora deserves it!!! She needs a reality boost, she needs to wake up, for me she's so lame right now



Regina!!!!

I will love her to the end of time!

Thanks OUaT for introduce us xD

Lana really is a national treasure, I'm glad she's having great success



And like always, your reviews are awesome!!!
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1. I think he really wanted to search for Bae

2. I think she will gloat a bit, and how I she knew she was capable of great Power, but I also think she will seek Revenge, does anyone else think she may morph into the main antagonist this season as opposed to regina and Rumple.

3.I think so, in the season preview, we see Snow guarding Emma from someone who looks like cora, so i think that answers that question. I also think Cora will try to get closer to Snow, so she can make her way to Storybrooke to enact Revenge on Regina

4. I don't know, but I hope she reappears soon, since next week looks like a busy FTL Past and Present episode, it looks like she may be absent again.

5.Yes, I hate her right now, I still hope she and Mulan can redeem themselves this season but so far it's not looking good, and noone recognized Snow White. Strange.
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Mulan probably never met Snow, and Aurora was asleep for a while before the Curse was cast. Maybe they never met. If I found them under a rock after a wraith just ate my boyfriend's soul, I'd be looking for character witnesses!

if they didn't believe them at least a little bit, wouldn't Mulan have slit their throats before they regained consciousness?
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When the Queen Mother showed up in the prison I thought more of the recent series of V than anything else. She even looks like her!



I also wondered whether the world Snow and Emma are in is the same Fairy Tale world after seeing the Queen Mother there. I think Rumple said another 'land' that he didn't care about rather than 'world' so that might be the difference.
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"Land" vs "realm" is a valid point- but I sooo want Cora to be the Red Queen!
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Since Cora was sent to the land Rumple didn't care about through a looking glass, I believe it's Wonderland. But I don't think Wonderland is where Aurora and Mulan are.
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We know that Jefferson was working on a hat to escape Wonderland to get back to his daughter, and if I recall the red queen looked interested in escaping as well, I think we are still missing an important part of that story.
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I completely agree - I think this will be a major arc this season. Since apparently the new villain is going to be Cora...we are bound to get some back-story on her. I am sure that back-story will include where she has been. And I am willing to bet she has been in Wonderland.
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The producers announced in an interview (don't remember which one- sorry!) that Mr Gold had no knowledge of his FTL past until he heard Emma introduce herself in the pilot. And he was packing for a trip in anticipation of the Curse breaking back in episode 19 or 20. (Remember the "Wiccan businessmen" scene, where he spins the globe?) So I think Rumple has very good reason to smash glass.

I'm sure Rumplestiltskin meant to leave Storybrooke, maybe visit Niagra Falls on his way to wherever he thinks Bae is. Belle is undoubtedly assembling/packing her trousseau. But this new twist makes me wonder whether someone else cast that forgetting- maybe it's not part of the original curse at all! In which case, the dove's note last week might be alerting the caster. (Is this where the Wizard of Oz shows up?)

I think Cora will be proud of her daughter's evil (maybe take credit for it) but ultimately be looking for revenge- If she wears the veil as Wonderland's Queen because her face was scarred when the mirror broke, that's a pretty serious offense.

Is it possible that the Red Queen is Cora's doppelganger, left to avoid alerting her foes that Cora is in fact elsewhere? It would explain her lack of conversational skills...
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This episode raise for me a few important questions ???

Where is Pinocchio? why was he not in his room ?

How we suppose to believe the Mad Hat Man spend hours below is car and no one saw him and came for help ??? Why doesn't he look for his child ???

And the most important question is Snowwhite and Emma really in the fairytale land since we know now that Rumplestiltskin said that this is another world ? if it the fairy land could it be because of Cora's magic the curse didn't hit that area ?
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I would like to believe that August is out looking for Emma.

Jefferson could easily have been stuck in the car a while- he didn't really interact with anyone but Regina, Emma, and Snow (maybe Henry). Even his daughter doesn't necessarily know he's there!
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Oops- I forgot- he interacted with August- who's mysteriously missing...

And are we sure the wraith is responsible for the car tipping over? (As opposed to say wolves in the road?)
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Don't have time this week to make a full post, but I am with Lily on this, and it was awesome. Go Lana Parilla. All the way.
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Fantastic review Lily! I shared the same sentiment on all counts.

- Maybe he thought he'd be able to go looking for his son.

- Both. She's the spitting image of her Mom and surely someone like Cora will appreciate that, but she'll also screw with her as it's her way.

- She hasn't changed much at all so I'm guessing she will, unless somehow Cora has a way of changing that.

- All the world's a portal. Who knows, hats, magic wells, underneath construction sites...

- Shopping for more clothes.

- Yes. Is it just me or did Mulan smirk? Aurora is kind of annoying, I think I understand why dude was trying to convince her to take a nap.

- I loved the glimpse of August and the fact that he must be back to full form. I loved the brief encounter with Sebastian Stan's Jefferson/Mad Hatter. More to come should be interesting.

- Henry calling David/Charming Gramps...GOLDEN. I love their little relationship they have going. It's so easy and natural and the fact that they share similar mannerisms is amusing.

-The acknowledgment that these characters have two different lives in their heads. I find that fascinating and I love it! All of these questions and all of this divine chaos. It's spectacular. The temptation of the line allowing them to start anew is enough to last all season. I wonder how many casualties there will be?

-Next week looks like more Emma and Snow! Can't wait! And Sinqua Walls as Sir Lancelot? Awesome.
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No question Henry calling out Gramps to David was the moment of the show. I totally LOLed on that one!
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"Gramps!" LOL I loved it.
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Mulan smirked. I bet she likes Snow better than Aurora now- maybe they'll buddy up?

Aurora has never been to the safe village either; if there wasn't a magical protection around her while she slept, she'd have been hors d'ouevres for any passing wraith. So I'll give her the benefit of the doubt for now. Still, she looks like a wuss right now. Maybe she and Emma can be sparring partners while they both learn how swords work? (Lesson one: pointy end out!)
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This episode made me love Josh Dallas all the more. Seriously, they could not have gotten a better Charming.



How does Snow not recognize Aurora? Don't all the Princesses of FTL know each other? lol At least she should have recognized FTL......



God I love this show...but where did August/Pinnochio go?
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We don't know for certain Snow didn't recognize FTL- I'm guessing Mulan trussed them both up before they woke up! It may be that no-one gets into their safe haven except tied up/ under guard until someone vouches for them...

Love Charming; HATE David. Did anyone else think when Regina called him Charlie (confrontation at the house) that maybe Charming's birth name was Charles? or am I stretching things?
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I wondered that myself. I thought all the princesses knew each other. And I also thought that since Snow was the "fairest" and all that, that the villagers would recognize her as well.
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I think Once Upon A Time is the best show on Tv and should be on Tv for a long time I will say about 6 seasons
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My thoughts:



- The gentleman from the beginning of last week's episode may not be Baelfire after all. Given that Rumple lost Bae shortly after becoming the Dark One, and he was the Dark One before Cora and Henry were even married, and therefore long before everyone was the ages they are now, Bae has been in the real world for a good long while, and could very well be a middle-aged or even elderly man by now.



- I echo Poly's sentiment about Cora being the Queen of Hearts.



- Why didn't David think to use the potion on something that belonged to Emma or Snow?



- If that's Lancelot, I think I can understand Guinevere's marital indiscretions. Hachi-machi!
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I believe that FTL and the real world have very different timelines. Because when you read a fairytale it's always happening right now. So it's possible that time came back into sync when the curse struck. But that's just my theory on how the guy at the beginning of last weeks ep could be Baelfire.
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One could also argue in favor of the timelines being the same from last week's Mulan/Aurora/Phillip conversation; the Enchanted Forest was frozen in time for 28 years, which is Emma's age and precisely how long everyone else has been trapped in Storybrooke.



And when you read a fairy tale, I always assumed they were happening not right now, but in the past, since they most always begin with "Once Upon a Time" (wink) and use past-tense verbs.
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Fair enough. I'm just theorising, because I'm all for Bae being Henry's Dad and if he's a million years old that won't be possible.
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Biologically, it would be possible...just not pleasant to think about.
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One thing that I found a bit odd is that Rumple's timeline is more complex than we thought. According to this episode he was already the dark lord when when Regina was a baby, possibly before her birth as he taught Cora magic. If this is true then Baefire has been missing in our world for far longer than originally anticipated. This could mean that rather than being in his 20's or 30's having grown up in the real world, he could be in his 50's by now. Puts a damper on the theory that he is Henry's dad and him being the guy from the beginning of last weeks episode.







Although, the fact that he was there for her birth makes me wonder if Regina is part of some sort of deal Cora had with him. Maybe he needed someone with magical potential to find a way to our world and gave Cora magic to make it happen. Maybe, she is actually his daughter.







The curse does seem to have changed a bit as now the people can leave town but will lose their memories rather than being in a wreck. As for why Rumple reacted like he did at the thought of still being stuck in town, I think that his desire to break the curse was all about him finding Baefire.







Now that her memories have been returned, Red seems to have stepped up and taken charge of things, organizing the town after the wraith and making Charming take his place as leader. This is a marked difference from Ruby who was always a bit confused about her place.







Still wondering who Whale will turn out to be. Others have had theories that he is Peter Pan which may fit. The curse took the boy who never wanted to grow up and made him a grown man. Plus he has a thing for faries. However, he seems to now respect Charming as prince which makes me wonder if he could be from another kingdom. We are seeing Lancelot so maybe Whale is King Arthur which would explain why he does not respect Charming
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I don't think Whale is King Arthur, because the producers have already said there are no plans to bring in anymore Arthurian Legend characters this season. Also, it could be that time worked differently between the real world and FTL and that the curse bought the two timelines in sync. So it's entirely possible that Baelfire is the guy at the beginning of the season 2 premiere. But I could be completely wrong. It's just my theory. I mean remember that kids read fairy tales and for them everything is always happening right now. So maybe that's how FTL worked until the curse.
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Why did Rumple smash his sparkling glass counters when he found out about crossing the line? - My theory on this is: Rumplestiltskin has done all this to find his son Bael. He thought by breaking the curse he could go find Bael i.e. packing of maps. He's done all this trickery and evil so far to find his son Bael that is why he turned down Belle in the last episode. He won't be satisfied until he reaches his end goal of finding his long lost son. OUAT one of my current favourite shows. It doesn't dissapoint.
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I was thinking that Stiltskin would be the one person who could leave storybrook unharmed as he always knew who he was. Regina's spell didn't work on him. He might lose his magic if he has any leaving Storybrook although it is questionable that magic would work outside the town. As he was the one to find Henry (knowing him to be Snow's grandchild), I don't get why he can't find his own son. I'm curious how this all will be explained.
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Actually, the producers have already said that rumple had no idea who he was, until he heard Emma's name way back in the pilot episode of season 1.
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I was thinking that Stiltskin would be the one person who could leave storybrook unharmed as he always knew who he was. Regina's spell didn't work on him. He might lose his magic if he has any leaving Storybrook although it is questionable that magic would work outside the town. As he was the one to find Henry (knowing him to be Snow's grandchild), I don't get why he can't find his own son. I'm curious how this all will be explained.
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Just wondering, when are we told that Aurora and Snow know each other?



In the original fairytale, she is to sleep for a hundred years. Here, we can guess it has not been for so long, but still, as they are from different kingdoms, even though Charming know of the Enchanted Forest doesn't mean Snow went there as a princess to do sleepovers at her BFF. Especially since Aurora (according to the Disney movie) was raised in a forest with three crypto-lesbian aunts who forbade her to meet anyone.
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This episode was mostly good, but there were a few bad things about it as well. I hated that everyone (even Gepetto and the blue fairy!!!) decided to leave, and it was almost as silly that they all changed their minds when they heard Charming's speech. I also didn't like how sweet and innocent Regina was before magic turned her bad.
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What bothered me about Charming's speech is that it was.. FALSE! They are not both. They were implanted with FALSE memories about lives that never occurred. He is not David AND Charming. He is only Charming. David is a figment of the curse. Why would he tell people to embrace both "selves"? Jefferson has already said that's the worst curse of all. You can't tell Red, a flesh-eating sidekick of Snow, to be content in returning to serve coffee in ass baring skirts. Because that's not who she really is. I think Lily was right - they had to put this speech in there to keep us from asking the obvious questions like, "How is the electricity staying on if nobody is working at the power plant?" or "Why isn't everyone looting the pawn shop for all their old belongings?" It just felt so silly. I guess maybe it's a deeper look into the psychology of memory. I mean, the truth isn't always what you remember. But then it's not every day your memories are proven demonstrably false. *sigh* Whatever. I'm content to let this show take whatever ridiculous turns it wants to take.
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I kinda think they weren't all going to leave, necessarily; people may have just wanted to see for themselves that the dwarves weren't wrong. I think if David's truck hadn't been in the way there would have been a huge traffic jam, everyone waiting for each other to go across first.

It's possible that Gepetto and Blue were also going to try stopping the exodus. And maybe people were running away because Charming hadn't shown up at the town meeting HE CALLED, so they figured he was dead? That and Regina's little demo would have made me reassess the merits of the situation. Do I want to keep both sets of memories and be stuck here with a vengeful witch, on the off chance I might get back home someday? or do I want to get away from the crazy lady and forget all about the place?
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WOOT! I GOT FIRST COMMENT!



Loved the ep. Just watched it, got all hyped and everything. I did want more from Emma and Mary Margaret but I think Charming jumping on the back of a truck just made the whole thing worthwhile because Josh Dallas is yummy. However, I thought there would be more of a showdown between Jefferson and Charming to be honest. The two yummy guys needed to have more screen time together. I mean that just made my day. So shout out to Josh Dallas and Sebastian Stan because I love them and they're yummy.



Lana Parilla was freaking awesome this episode. I totally agree with Lily on this one. I usually hate Regina on principle but Lana's acting is fantastic. although I personally wanted to see more of Regina and Rumple playing off of each other in Storybrooke. I just find it more entertaining. LOL! Anywho, in answer to the points Lily made...



Why did Rumple smash his sparkling glass counters when he found out about crossing the line?



Well, because now he can't go out and search for Baelfire obviously. I know it's too obvious but I'm totally calling it. Think about it, he had a whole bunch of American state travel books. He just wants to go and find Baelfire, poor Rumple.



Will Cora seek vengeance on Regina or be proud of how evil she became?



I don't think that Cora remembers who she is. I mean if we're looking at paying homage to The 10th Kingdom then Cora probably doesn't remember being married or having a daughter at all. So it's all cool. As for when she does remember, I totally call her being about to die and her and Regina having a heart to heart before she pops her clogs and telling Regina how proud she is of her and how much she loves her. Then Regina crying over her dead body and redeeming herself in some way. I'm calling that right now. (nods)



Will Snow immediately recognize Cora?



I think Snow will recognise her. But I also think that Cora doesn't know who she is, and Snow will try to either help her regina her memory, or try to kill her (in an extremely dark twisted revenge because of what Cora did to Daniel which caused all this trouble in the first place)



Just how many portals are floating around on this show?



As many as the writers need to be plausible I'm sure. There will probably be a rabbit hole portal somewhere in Storybrooke just waiting for Alice to find it. (nods)



What do you think Belle was doing this episode?



I think she was taking a nap in Rumple's Queen size bed, or using his hot tub (Come on, Mr Gold was freaking rich, don't tell me he doesn't have a hot tub)



Did Aurora deserve getting kneed in the crotch?



YES! YES! YES! She totally deserved it. If I was there I would've done it myself! How could she not recognise Snow? I thought all those FTL princesses knew each other for crying out loud! If only I could jump into the TV I totally would've need her myself... in the face forget the crotch. (nods)
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Ooops, I thought I got first comment. I will correct myself. I did NOT get first comment. LOL!
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I want to know which Mulan and Snozing Beauty are being such ponces? I mean c'mon girls talk it out. No more crotch shots!
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Half the fandom was screaming for a catfight, so one cheap shot keeps the producers out of trouble! Plus, I think Snow expected Emma to escape and is going to give her hell when she wakes up (catfight 2!)
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First of all, I was (very) disappointed by "We are both". IMHO an episode without Jennifer Morrison (the last 2 minutes or so don't count as they were more a teaser of episode 3) is a waste of time and money. I thought Swan and Snow are going to be back in Storybrooke in 2 episodes - now it looks like it make take a while (if not a better half of a season). Something tells me there will be more episodes like this one and I'm not happy about it.



Fortunately, "We are both" was not a complete failure. Granny's crossbow scene was a Kodac moment - now I'm waiting for my second favorite character, Ruby to start biting people. Also the Mad Max like walk at the end was a great thing to see - though it would look better at a desert.



I don't buy Regina act - after all she didn't burn Cora's spellbook. She's still evil and power hungry. Henry is naive.



And now the questions:



1.) Rumple wanted to go on vacation and / or look for his son. No wonder he got angry.

2.) Cora will surely try to get even with her daughter.

3.) Judging how irrtating young Snow was I say she doesn't remember Cora at all.

4.) Mirror, Jeffferon's hat, tree thing - I think there should be at least 3 more.

5.) Mumbling in a corner. After 25 years in Asylum it's probably her second nature.

6.) Of course she did! Everyone who imprisons Emma deserves punishment.



Question: From what I remember in season 1 Jefferson was sent to some other dimension where he was trying to make a new hat. How did he get out?
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OOOH- maybe Jefferson made a working hat while he wa in Wonderland, and that's how Cora got out!
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Maybe, but we don't know if that dimension Jefferson fell into at the end of episode 17 was Wonderland. It could be any other place.



Also Jefferson couldn't make a working hat in Storybrooke on his own. He needed Swan to do it. Dracomom, if your theory is right then Cora had to make the new hat. But that still doesn't explain why Cora is in post-apocalyptic FTL and Jefferson is in Storybrooke.
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Jefferson got out of Wonderland somehow. We see him at the end of that episode making hats. IF Jefferson was able to make one that worked while we was in Wonderland, he could leave.

We don't know for sure how he got out; I believe he could have made a working hat, which had to be left behind (he can't pick it up if he's travelling through it) to return to FTL. Cora would then be able (potentially) to use it.

OR maybe Cora helped Jefferson create the new Hat because she wanted an escape route.

OR I could be completely wrong and Cora had nothing to do with Wonderland at all.

At the moment, all possibilities above are equally plausible- some are just lots more fun.
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