Orange Is the New Black "Bora Bora Bora" / "Tall Men With Feelings" Review: Scared Straight?

Orange Is the New Black S01E10 / S01E11: "Bora Bora Bora" / "Tall Men With Feelings"

Remember when this show made a real effort to lighten up the depressing matter of being prison? Sure, at first things were downright scary with the shower fungus, fashion-backward jumpsuits, and the dirty looks, but for the most part, Orange Is the New Black made a strong attempt to sell a kinder, gentler prison experience than what we knew from watching Oz and Half Baked (there's no Squirrel Master to protect Piper!). Piper found friends in unexpected places, the racial barriers that were present in the early episodes have dissolved, and dance parties have vastly outnumbered riots as of late.

But the show's mid-season portrayal of prison as more of a strict sleepaway camp for adults has been thrown out the window, particularly in these last four episodes, which have gotten R-E-A-L. And it's no coincidence that they're probably the four best episodes of OITNB we've seen so far. If the first half of Season 1 was designed to make us like these women by showing them in a positive light, the second half is designed to make us care for them by putting them in danger. 

And does it get more dangerous than locking an abandoned drug addict in a utility closet with a bag full of pills? With such a big cast of expendable players (but players who could deliver an emotional sock to the jaw), and with all that can go wrong in a prison setting, it would've been irresponsible of us to think that no one would die in Season 1, and the early exit went to Trish, the cornrowed druggie whose relapse had gotten her her cast out of Red's white circle. I can't say I'm surprised, as that's the direction the show has been pushing her in (seeing Red reject Trish was just awful, and Trish always had a cloud of tragedy floating over her head), but the writers really stomp on our toes by making Trish the focus of flashbacks right before killing her off.


In an earlier review, I muttered something about how most of the flashbacks we'd seen on Orange Is the New Black had painted their subjects in a positive light, and I was hoping future flashbacks would show different, harder side of some of the inmates we've come to know. After all, not everyone can end up in jail because they're good people who made mistakes; these ladies be criminalz, not just wrong-place-wrong-timers. But with that said, Trish's couldn't have been more appropriately touching. Obviously we feel bad because she died and we wanted to see her go out on a positive note, but we also feel bad because we barely knew poor Trish and now we understand why Nicky was so eager to defend her. Trish was a good person, but she also happened to be a lost person who couldn't find her way back. And of all the stories we've seen so far, some of which have reached into Lifetime Movie of the Week territory (Claudette killing a man for revenge, for example), Trish's was the most grounded and real. There was no dramatic stretch; her story is playing out with different girls right now on thousands of street corners around the country. Heck, you might even know a Trish in real life.

The powerful thing about Trish's story is that before "Bora Bora Bora" I hadn't really felt much of an attachment to her. But now? I miss her so much that I get choked up just thinking about her. Is that healthy? Probably not, but it's more proof that Orange Is the New Black is telling the best character stories on television right now and making us feel things. And that's why we watch television in the first place, right? 

Speaking of feelings, the emotional arc of Piper's revenge on Pennsatucky was Carrie-Matheson-level bipolar. I loved how several women got in on bringing her down—Boo, Watson, Alex, and Piper all played a role in inflating her ego and her false sense of potency, to the point where she floated so far off the planet that there was nowhere to go but down. And the payback was so damn perfect and delicious as everyone but Pennsatucky's flock laughed behind her back as she bared her meth teeth to summon the Lord's power to heal ailments that never existed. 


But once again Orange Is the New Black swept our legs out from underneath us, and "down" ended up being a lot lower—like, dig a hole to China lower—than we, not to mention Piper, thought it could go. Turns out there's a worse place than the SHU, and it's the psych ward, which is maybe half-a-degree nicer than American Horror Story's Briarcliff Asylum. Even Crazy Eyes Suzanne, who's done her share of time down there, wouldn't wish it on her worst enemy. And all of a sudden, there we were, feeling conflicted over seeing Pennsatucky locked in a cage or strapped to a table getting shot up with tranqs until we couldn't bear it anymore. 

Piper couldn't handle it either, and took responsibility for setting Pennsatucky up (Piper got off easy, too: a couple weeks of nighttime janitorial duty). It wasn't clear to me whether that information made its way back to Pennsatucky, but this feud isn't over because A) Taryn Manning has been upped to series regular for Season 2, and B) Pennsatucky is like a rabid wolverine on crack and Hulk juice. Also, are we placing bets on whether Piper end up in the psych ward at some point?

And speaking of bets, it was a total lock that Piper would fall back in love with Alex—or, more accurately, that she'd admit to herself that she never fell out of it. "It's weird how normal this feels. I feel like I'm 23 and no time has passed," she said early in "Bora Bora Bora" while publicly canoodling with Alex. Prison is a perfect petri dish for growing regression, and Piper slipped back into her old feelings like they was some county-issued browns while Larry ignored her phone calls after hearing that Piper missed his Thanksgiving visit because she was being punished for lesbian activity. (Related: Woah. Healy. What's going on with him?)

What made this storyline work so well was OITNB's brilliant use and timing of flashbacks to check in on Piper's relationships with both Larry and Alex. We saw how each one grew and how they were both very real, even though Alex's flashback was dominated by tragedy and a fight and Larry's was focused on awkward introductions and nurturing. Alex and Piper's relationship was and is one of those fiery, tumultuous affairs where the hots are surface-of-the-sun blazing and the colds are the-other-side-of-Pluto frigid. Larry and Piper's relationship, however, offers a a pajama-pants-and-Chinese-food type of comfort. And now we're in the middle with Piper, wondering which way to go. 

In trying to have both Alex and Larry, surprise! Piper may have blown up both relationships. The ending of "Tall Men With Feelings," all 11 or 12 minutes of it, was blistering, as Larry's radio appearance encapsulated everything this show is about. In fact, it's my favorite sequence of the series so far. Hearing an outsider's perspective provided a great example of how people can become so disconnected from each other (Larry called Piper's inmate friends "criminals," which they are, but they've outgrown that label in our minds). It also illustrated how inmates can lose touch with the outside world, yet also find their way through painful times. And the devastation caused by Larry's words—Claudette and Crazy Eyes did not hear good news—to so much of what Piper had built up was a great example of the dangers of poor communication. Most of what Larry had said did happen, at least in Piper's eyes, but the information was outdated and had been reduced to toxic sludge. Toxic sludge that contaminated Piper's environment.

But all the carnage fell right on Piper's head. Larry said, "Suppose, theoretically that someone she loved, someone she had history with, someone who could understand her life in there in a way that I'll never be able to, it would be devastating to think that person could give her something I can't. It would be way worse than sex. It would be... it would be a betrayal." To which Piper could only say, "He knows." It's not so much a case of the outside world affecting what happens inside the prison as it is Piper's thoughts bouncing back in her face. And when Larry asked Piper if she loved Alex and Piper said yes, Larry's next move was to hurt Piper telling her that Alex had named her in the case. SO BRUTAL. And so damn perfect. The collapse at the end of "Tall Men With Feelings" reminded me a lot of the ending of the very first episode, when things went horribly wrong for Piper so fast. Incredible writing, incredible pacing, and so awesomely timed. I loved it.



CONJUGAL NOTES

– Hey look! Larry is watching Weeds, also from Jenji Kohan. AND the scene on his screen was one of my favorites, when (paraphrasing) Doug and Andy were sitting in the living room on either side of a table and Doug asked Lupita the housekeeper, "Hey Lupita, what do you call the thing between the asshole and the dick?" And she says, "The coffee table." 

– These double-episode reviews are getting to be so long and these episodes are so dense that I don't get to cover everything I want to, but I would like to say that the Red/Mendez rivalry that's been slow-cooking is almost ready to boil. And it's starting to involve outsiders, like Daya and Bennett. I have no idea where it's going to go, but it's so rich with potential that I wouldn't be surprised about anything that happens. 

 One question about the Daya-Mendez fake-rape plan: Wouldn't a doctor be able to tell she was pregnant before the rape occurred if she went to the doctor immediately after the alleged incident? I've never been pregnant before, but that's my understanding of how the miracle of life works. Or was the point just to have Daya make sure the "rape" was in the record book?


– Gosh, how good was Jason Biggs at the end of "Tall Men With Feelings" when he was laying into Piper on the phone? Really good. I officially do not hate Jason Biggs any more. 

– How smart was bringing in the Scared Straight program when Piper was dealing with her own issues of being straight? And do you think Larry finally scared her into being straight with him, from both a sexual and honesty standpoint?

– Suzanne to Piper: "How come everyone calls me Crazy Eyes?" That may be the series' single most gut-punching line of dialogue to date. Absolutely painful.

– Morello's clinic on stupid just before she and Nicky got into a spat was amazing. Enchiladas in Spain, Bora Bora Bora, giving Red an olive, calling someone a Judas Priest. 

– More Morello: The idea that her wedding and boyfriend are completely made-up makes SO much sense now, but I'd never considered it before. It's also a lot more understandable than I could've imagined; when you're stuck in prison, you need hope. If you have to make up that hope, then so be it. 


PREVIOUSLY:

– Orange Is the New Black Series Premiere Review: Fresh Meat (S0E01)

– Orange Is the New Black "Tit Punch"/"Lesbian Denied" Review: Love and Lunch (S01E02 / S01E03)

– Orange Is the New Black "Imaginary Enemies"/"The Chickening" Review: Hope and Toxicity (S01E04 / S01E05)

– Orange Is the New Black "Wac Pac"/"Blood Donut" Review: Political Animals (S01E06 / S01E07)

Orange Is the New Black "Moscow Mule"/"F*cksgiving" Review: The SHU Doesn't Fit (S01E08 / S01E09)

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Dec 06, 2014
I really dont like Piper at that point. I mean no its just... both her and Larry dont really try to understand each other. Obviously Larry has no idea how prison really is - but I cant blame him for that cause how would he? Piper on the other side is just so selfish - I mean ok she is in jail and we know how hard that is but everytime she tells Larry basically that he has no right to feel lonely or anything cause he isnt in prison - well guess what Piper it is also hard for him.
Cant really blame him for the radio interview either - that he did it and said all these thing was stupid - maybe just his way of dealing with the situation BUT if I was Larry no way in the world I would think that every girl in the prison will listen to my radio interview - I tell you I bet Piper told everyone because she thought Larry would just talk about how awesome she is - sorry but I hate people who cheat - I really dont care why they do it - its just wrong. Alright I was never in prison and I do understand that she needs contact and everything but seriously?? She said to him: I wanna make it up to you - ehm sorry you just told him u still love alex and still have sex with her... what do u want him to do?
She is so selfish - as we saw in the flashbacks. Basically she just gets the person that fits in her life at the moment. She knew what Alex did for living and I dont like it but she never lied to her - when she got bored of the dangerous adventure she left and found Larry the nice guy (how I hate people who think in these boxes) and now she cant have him so she goes to alex again (i wish alex would tell her she doesnt wanna be used) anyway I bet she thinks when she gets out she can have Larry again.. figure out who u are, stop thinking in boxes and then tell the one person u wanna stay with her/him and stop hurting others.
And for Suzanne and Mrs Claudette: just tell them U said these things after the first days but u obviously think different now - shouldnt be such a problem
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Sep 04, 2014
My favorite part of both episodes is Crazy Eyes doing Shakespeare in front of the Scared Straight program Girls. She's so good! The best character by far.
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Aug 17, 2013
The last scene in the last episode was stunningly brilliant. With the fists of fury that surprisingly came reigning down after being forced, I seriously doubt we'll be seeing Pensatucky in Season 2.

I ADORE this show!!! I love when a show allows a gifted person like Jenji Kohan full creative rights to allow her vision to be shown. Choich!!

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Aug 15, 2013
I have finally finished the whole season. The last 4 episode were way better than the earlier ones. My conclusion is still that season 1 is weaker than Weeds season 1. I really hoped season 2 gets much better.

Since you brought up Biggs watching Weeds, I was wondering why the writers did not make that reference earlier. In one of the earlier episode,Piper told him NOT to watch Mad Man and wait for her so that they could watch everything together when she is out. She could have said something like lets watch our favorite show Weeds together again once I am out. Perhaps that is too obvious. Biggs watching weeds is more subtle.
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Aug 15, 2013
– One question about the Daya-Mendez fake-rape plan: Wouldn't a doctor be able to tell she was pregnant before the rape occurred if she went to the doctor immediately after the alleged incident? I've never been pregnant before, but that's my understanding of how the miracle of life works. Or was the point just to have Daya make sure the "rape" was in the record book?

Not sure if this was mentioned already but they explained how it was technically rape any time a guard had sex with an inmate because the inmates can't give consent, they can't really say no to the people in charge of their lives. So all they needed was proof of sex, even a stain on her clothes from Pornstache would be enough.
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Aug 15, 2013
Letting Pensatucky out of psych was a big mistake for Piper. She finally got rid of a threat and then decided that she should take the blame for it and make her an even bigger threat. Even if she has too much of a conscience she should realize that she needs to survive being in prison.
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Aug 15, 2013
great review. hurry up and finish it already!!

i 100% agree
– Suzanne to Piper: "How come everyone calls me Crazy Eyes?" That may be the series' single most gut-punching line of dialogue to date. Absolutely painful.


– More Morello: The idea that her wedding and boyfriend are completely made-up makes SO much sense now, but I'd never considered it before. It's also a lot more understandable than I could've imagined; when you're stuck in prison, you need hope. If you have to make up that hope, then so be it.

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Aug 15, 2013
Pennsatucky and Alex ruin this show for me, I still like it but if not for those two character I would love it. Alex was okay as an enemy, but ruins Piper's character when she becomes a friend, and Pennsatucky is just an obnoxious and cliche character that frankly I'm tired of seeing in every single show these days.
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Aug 15, 2013
I keep thinking when I see Pennsatucky, this is how Rita (Sons of Anarchy) would have ended up if she didn't go to Northern Ireland.
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Aug 15, 2013
Oh Suzanne, you broke my heart with that one line, and will be forever my favourite character on this show.
I'm having a complete bipolar relationship with Piper. I'd love to know how others feel about her? Sometimes I'm routing for her, sometimes she annoys me, I'm all over the place with her. At first I felt sorry for her, obviously, but the more I get to know her the more I feel she was a spoilt b*tch. Her flashbacks don't help either. I have examples but it's been a while since I watched the show so I hope none of them are from scenes after this review. Sorry if you get a spoiler. The biggest would be leaving Alex when her mother died, that was a pretty crap thing to do and beyond selfish. She only seems to go near people if they are useful to her. She wanted a change of lifestyle so she latched on to Larry, she needs back up in prison so she latched on to Alex. She can be quite manipulative, but she does it in a nice way. Then I still feel sorry for her again at the end of the season, but I'll have to wait to discuss that when Tim has the review out.
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Aug 17, 2013
I felt sorry for Piper at the beginning of the season, but like you, began to have problems with her. However, from episode ten (or maybe eleven) onwards, she's become my favourite character. I too have examples of why I began to like her, but again it's been a while since I watched in now so they're difficult to remember.

I actually really liked it when Piper left Alex, even after her mother died. There's never a right time to leave someone, and I was proud of Piper as a character to have the strength to tell Alex that no, she would not be a drug mule again, and that she was leaving. This strength was magnified ten-told when she still decided to leave Alex after her mother died. I felt that Alex was trying to take advantage of Piper's sympathise nature and that her mother's death would convince her to stay, but Piper showed tremendous strength by still saying no. In the end, she had to do what was best for her as a person, and while I understand this could be considered selfish, I myself found it inspirational.

The thing that redeems Piper's behaviour for me the most is that it's obvious she doesn't do any of this on purpose, it's just who she is. Yes, Larry was her attempt to gain a 'normal' life, but can you really blame Piper for this? I think we've all be drawn to people in one way or another because our relationship with them seems stable, and our fear tells us not to let them go because you might not find someone like that again. As for Alex, I vaguely remember Piper saying that she would love to spend the rest of their lives together, but that the way Alex lives it not the kind of way Piper as a person could live. Her personality is the opposite of that. Perhaps her relationship with Alex was 'just a phase', Piper's attempt at living on the wild side a little why she was still young.

I still think she legitimately loves both Larry and Alex though. Larry for the grounded support and normality he gives her, and Alex for her wildness and the attractive way she lives her life. She's torn between these two possible lives, and she's become such a complex character watching her trying to grapple with this, which is why I love her.
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Aug 17, 2013
I understand you when you say that Piper had great strength to walk away from Alex when Alex's mother died. My issue though is that in Pipers flashbacks, including that one, she comes across as a spoilt selfish person. She loved that Alex could take her around the world, and pamper her and spoil her, and then when Alex asked her to fly wherever it was to help her out (fair enough if she doesn't want to anything illegal but that didn't seem to be her main concern, she was annoyed at Alex working so much) she threw a tantrum, and left Alex. With Larry I don't blame her wanting a normal life, but Larry is another person to take care of her, Alex's replacement. Piper is a master manipulator, and uses this meek innocent persona to it's full. People do things for her and help because she comes across as needing to be minded, she is innocent, pretty Piper. But then you see glimpses of the real Piper, and like she said herself, (paraphrasing) it's finding out about yourself in prison is the real scary part.
After all that though, I'm still routing for her. I want her to be the tough person she is inside. I want her to embrace it, tell Alex and Larry to sod off, and take over the prison as queen b*tch.
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Aug 15, 2013
This series is absolutely phenomenal at making me hate the characters only to make me love them a few episodes later. While I didn't actively hate Trish at any point, I just didn't see the point of her character... She just... Was there... These episodes, however, did give her a pretty normal (or familiar) backstory which could happen to someone you know and which made her sudden (yet believeable) demise all the more depressing.

In my opinion OISTN is one of the best new shows this years, though I have to admit that the only new shows I've watched this year are this and Low Winter Sun (which hasn't even aired enough episodes for me to tell if it's great or too hectic).
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Aug 15, 2013
You have my complete approval.

Though I started to watch many new series this season, like: Under the dome, Orphan black, Elementary, OITNB, Defiance, The bridge....

OITNB has the most human and realistic stories and maybe it is not my personal favourite, it is just plain awesome, even for other opinions than mine.

Only malus here is the character of Mendez, he seems to off to be realistic, or has any of you ever met such an asshole?
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Aug 15, 2013
Mendez sure is the most unrealistic character in the show. The show could give us a reason for his asshole-ness next season but for now... He's just a douche for the sake of being a douche (or it feels like it).

And I have no idea how I managed to just type two correct letters on the OITNB acronym and screw up three of the letters :D
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Aug 15, 2013
This series is so amazing, rarely I felt more for a Television character, and even not for a Single one!

Morello: She has my pity, she really build a fantasy around her. I totally get that, did the same, when I was young and lost my family! Sometimes you just need fantasy to cope with all the shit... (TMI ?)

Suzanne: The quoted sentence from Tim made me shiver, when I first saw this scene. The writer who found this sentence should be rewarded.
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Aug 15, 2013
"Suzanne to Piper: "How come everyone calls me Crazy Eyes?" That may be the series' single most gut-punching line of dialogue to date. Absolutely painful." yes so true!!
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Aug 17, 2013
Seeing Suzanne freeze up and shift her eyes back and forth to the audience answered that question why she's called Crazy Eyes- cause she did the same thing in the play the year before.
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Aug 15, 2013
Also, Crazy Eyes crying in bed listening to the radio segment nearly had me in tears.

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Aug 15, 2013
Ok, I have always been a huge fan of Taryn Manning, but I don't know what to make of her here. She is terrifying!! But so so good at what she is doing! I have watched her for the last 10 years now, more than that, but with Pennsatucky, Manning has finally created the role of her lifetime. I miss her being Hot, though :c
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Aug 15, 2013
I'm a little surprised so many of you thought Suzanne's "How come everyone calls me Crazy Eyes?" was so emotional and painful. I've seen that episode three times now and all three times I thought that scene was hilarious. Considering that, it's probably one of the funniest scenes in the series for me. And I've never been called a heartless bastard or an emotion-lacking robot... well, at least not to my face.
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Aug 15, 2013
Watching the end when Larry tells Piper the truth was exactly what I wanted to see very satisfying
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Aug 15, 2013
Good review, couldn't agree more. I don't even have much to add to what you said, other than Crazy Eyes asking why she was called that had the same effect on me as well. Other than one other emotional point that I believe happens in the next episode, that was the best of the season for me.
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Aug 15, 2013
Why did you hate Jason Biggs before? He's a funny dude.
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Aug 15, 2013
I felt so bad for Crazy eyes when she asked why she was called that.

I think since Daya had sex with Pornstache more than once, she could just claim it when reporting the rape like "we have been having sex since I got here."

Another great review Tim. I can't wait for your review of the final two episodes!
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Aug 14, 2013
Pornstache: "Shoulda seen how her eyes fucking bulged out of her head. Like that actor... that um... oh cmon... the one with the big eyes! Oh, cmon, yknow! The fucking ugly one!"

We ALL know he's taking about Steve Buscemi, right? I often feel bad for Buscemi that he's so famous for being ugly, but then I remember he also gets a lot of roles for it (and his acting) and makes more money than I ever would, so... congrats to him.
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Aug 14, 2013
Pennsatucky deserves to be in the psych ward -- she seems to have delusional disorder or some other form of mental problem -- but seeing her strapped down, with the doctors/nurses not giving a fuck about her, and knowing that Alex/Piper/anyone else built her craziness up, it made me sympathetic. I kind of went: "Awww, poor girl. Now take your meds and shut the fuck up."

I kind of wondered why Piper didn't defend herself when Claudette asked if Piper sees her as a murderous psychopath by saying it was a first impression based on rumors. They've clearly been having a better relationship in recent episodes, so it would have seemed like such a whiny excuse. Larry's comments were based on old testimonies, not recent ones. Oh well. I guess Piper was in the mood to take blame for everything, so whatever.

All in all, I didn't think Larry's radio talk was all that bad for Piper. Crazy Eyes had just admitted to being crazy and acting crazy, so during her saner times, she'd understand that she had scared Piper during those "you're my wife" days. Claudette's a smart woman, she'd understand rumors and perceptions -- she sometimes seemed to purposely play up her reputation in previous episodes. And the others who were named seemed to take it well.

I had always liked Poussey, but I think it was in Bora Bora Bora when she became arguably my favorite character. Love her.

I think Vicky's point below about Daya is the correct one. Once she gets some proof of sex with Mendez she can then say that it wasn't the first time. I don't think prison-hospitals (or that one, anyway) will be so thorough to do a DNA test, so proof of sex and Daya's statement should be enough for Red and Daya's purpose.
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Aug 15, 2013
... so it *wouldn't have seemed... :(
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Aug 14, 2013
Fantastic review Tim! Really compelling piece of writing, about two wonderfully written, realized and acted episodes. This is television drama at its best, most thrilling, most moving, most interesting and most absorbing! Orange is the New Black FTW!!!
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Aug 14, 2013
Really glad you're enjoying this show. I can't wait to hear your thoughts on the end of this season.

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Aug 14, 2013
"her story is playing out with different girls right now on thousands of street corners around the country. Heck, you might even know a Trish in real life."

That seems unfairly selective; the amount of male homeless in this country far outweigh the number of female homeless. Why not just be general?
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Aug 15, 2013
Why should he have been general? The discussion is about Trish, so it's relevant to link it the homeless female population.
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Aug 15, 2013
Why shouldn't he be general?
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Aug 17, 2013
Neither of us is angry, then ... agree to disagree I guess.
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Aug 17, 2013
Kay.
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Aug 17, 2013
I'm not the one who's affronted... just look at the thread. It began with me questioning your affrontedness at Tim's lack of generality.
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Aug 17, 2013
It does seem selective to me. I wasn't angry. Just sayin'.
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Aug 16, 2013
Because, as I said earlier, he was talking specifically about Trish. The show's about a women's prison. It's not like everyone doesn't already know about the homeless men, it's hard to avoid really.
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Aug 16, 2013
I don't really get why you're so affronted by a plea for generality.
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Aug 15, 2013
Well am sure Tim only used "girls" because the show is based on the lead FEMALE character's perspective.
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Aug 15, 2013
A+B =/= C here.
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Aug 14, 2013
Suzanne to Piper: "How come everyone calls me Crazy Eyes?" Man that was so dramatic I felt it like a physical blow!!!

Yes, I think I said before that I was very surprised to find out that Jason Biggs could actually act... I think he's been drafted to the big leagues now...

"Toxic sludge that contaminated Piper's environment. " Bloody hell yes! When I was watching Larry's interview I had the image of men hosing the prison with poison... It was so cruel! It also made me think how quick we are to judge people without bothering to hear both sides of the story...

Very nice review Tim.
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Aug 14, 2013
That scene from Weeds is my ALL-TIME favorite from that series as well. This show feels like Season 1 Weeds. Super sharp dialogue & plotting.
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Aug 14, 2013
"I officially do not hate Jason Biggs any more."
I was trying to convince you. It only took a fantastic scene. Sounds legit.
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Aug 14, 2013


"Why does everyone call me crazy eyes..." OITNB, making grown men cry.
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Aug 14, 2013
1. Piper and Alex - awwww they're so sweet! I love Pipex!

2. I hate Larry and Healy so much!

3. Poor Trish :(
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Aug 15, 2013
don't get too attached
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Aug 15, 2013
I'm trying not to spoil the show for those who didn't see all episodes of season 1. You could do the same...
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Aug 15, 2013
i didn't spoil anything just saying its pretty obvious things won't be perfect for too much longer now that she knows Alex ratted her out. There's no spoilers in that statment
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Aug 15, 2013
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Aug 14, 2013
Tim, I love your question about Daya's pregnancy! Estimating the date of pregnancy is not an exact science, especially if we're talking about a matter of days. A doctor, or more likely a nurse or intern, performs a sonogram, takes measurements of the fetus, and then provides an estimate of conception based on its size. If your fetus happens to be smaller or larger than average, it can throw off the whole process. So basically, not a horrible plan pre-DNA, but horrible post-DNA (not to mention ridiculously unethical but I'm not about judgment).
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Aug 14, 2013
Although yes if she literally went to the doctor immediately after the rape, and she says this is the first rape, there's no way she could already be with child. Although I assume in a prison, particularly this prison, doctor's appointments aren't happening with swift speed.
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Aug 14, 2013
These really were great episodes, but I have to say I was never conflicted on whether I thought Pennsatucky deserved to be in the psyche ward. That chick is loony tunes and violent so of course I want her as far away from Piper as possible. Great article.
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Aug 14, 2013
their gaslighting of her was brilliant! to bad Piper had a change of heart.
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Aug 14, 2013
great review but I'm worried to say anything since I don't want to give away any spoilers. HURRY UP and finish the series...I'm going to have to re-watch it if to much time passes.

couldn't Daya claim that it wasn't the first time he raped her.....

hasn't Pennsatucky's flashback occurred yet? In case it hasn't occurred yet then ****SPOILER******Definitely not a Hallmark or Lifetime card/movie...I'll end there.

Great series and I'm so happy it is being reviewed and getting the good reviews it deserves.
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