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Person of Interest "2-Pi-R" Review: Subtracting Reese Multiplies Problems

Person of Interest S02E11: "2πR"

Okay fellow Person of Interstites, Machineheads, or FanPOIs (do we have a name?), it's 2013 so it's time to crank up the criticism and be a little harsher on our favorite show about a vigilante odd couple. I say this because while I really enjoy Person of Interest, it tends to be a difficult show to cover. Aside from the occasional serialization-heavy installment, it's procedural backbone doesn't lend itself to much commentary from episode to episode outside of recapping whether the case of the week was fun or not, the funny things Finch said, and what new high-caliber toy Reese has to play with.

Thankfully last night's algebraic "2πR," which was largely procedural, gave us something big to talk about by leaving Reese out of the equation (haha, math pun! Don't worry, there are plenty more coming...) almost entirely. The formula for Person of Interest is "geeky billionare + badass special op + super computer = vigilante ass-kickings for bad guys," but Mr. Badass Special Op spent the entire episode behind bars after being captured by the FBI in the winter finale. *flips through seventh-grade algebra book* Subtracting Mr. Badass Special Op from the first half of the equation means we also have to subtract it from the second half of the equation, but we should probably add "x(Fusco)" and "Carter/FBI "somewhere in there... point is, did Reese's absence leave us with a satisfying answer? I'm going to say no.

I love when series take risks like this, and Person of Interest has always found surprising ways to tinker with its formula. Early in the series' life the norm was shaken up when Finch had to go into the field to save Reese or Reese had to team up with Carter or that great arc when Reese had to team up with the machine to find Finch. In "2πR," Reese was more absent than he's ever been, leaving the number of the week entirely in Finch's hands. But whereas those other episodes helped define characters through different circumstances, "2πR" was really just Person of Interest without one of its main draws.

"2πR" was a missed opportunity to delve deep into Finch's character and show us more of his shady past, but other than confirming Finch's incredible hacking skillz, we didn't learn much about him at all. And I think that's becoming a problem. What made Season 1 (and the early part of Season 2) so excellent were the slow reveals of Reese and Finch's intriguing backstories. Finch may have helped murder Nathan Ingram! Reese was running away from explosions in China! The computer used to call Finch daddy! All these details and questions kicked the show into a higher gear, something smarter and more interesting than NCIS or CSI. We're just not getting that these days, which is turning POI into something fairly standard for CBS. It's almost as if the network told Jonathan Nolan and Greg Plageman to tone down the complex character backstories and simplify things. We got a taste of the backstory goodness in "Contingency" by witnessing the early days of Finch and the computer, and the same was true in "'Til Death" when we saw Finch put the moves on Grace, but my brain (which I don't always trust, so let me know if I'm wrong) tells me we haven't had many other history lessons. What drew me into Person of Interest initially was getting to know these outstanding characters and continually adding pieces to the puzzle. I want to see more of Reese's heartbreak from "Many Happy Returns." I want to see more of Finch's dealings with Nathan Ingram. As of late, things seem paused on that front.

Anyway, semi-rant over, new rant begins. This week Finch went undercover as a substitute teacher to keep eyes on Caleb, a troubled genius who tanked tests but probably proved difficult math theorems on chalkboards when no one was looking. Finch played Robin Williams to Caleb's Matt Damon and after lots of wheel-spinning he eventually got to the bottom of Caleb's malaise: Caleb was soaked with guilt after being indirectly responsible for his brother's death. So Caleb took care of his drunk mother and was computer-coding up a fancy new compression algorithm that would allow people to store a ripped copy of the Blu-ray version of Friends: The Complete Series (or PDFs of the entire Library of Congress, as the episode chose) on a 100MB flash drive. With help from the school's computer science teacher (whose inclusion in the story was merely to throw us off the scent), Caleb's work would find investors and turn Caleb into a bazillionaire. Only Caleb didn't want the money for himself, he wanted to give it all to his alkie mom and kill himself when he was 17 years, 6 months, and 21 days old, the same age his brother was when he died. How very emo. There was also a drug dealer (played by The Wire's Wee-Bey!) who wanted to extort Caleb, but that storyline fizzled out like a wet match almost as suddenly as it was introduced. To me, there were a lot of unnecessary moving parts in the case—the teacher, the drug dealer, the dealers in the school, the audio flashbacks to the subway accident—that kept it from being substantive, and the "woe is me" teen and his idiotic and convoluted idea to commit suicide in honor of his brother didn't help. Caleb's grief was so surface-level that we never really got to know him or his despair. I liked the general idea of the case, but the execution just wasn't there.

But the case wasn't the only messy situation that needed solving. The FBI was getting closer to pinning Reese as the mythic Man in the Suit, thanks to DNA evidence against him, and Finch tasked Carter with making sure that didn't happen. Carter, what the F are you doing? Weren't you the moral police in Season 1? Now you're pulling clothes out of your slut drawer (she looked fwiiiiine though, right?), drugging Johns to swab their cheeks, and breaking into FBI labs and tampering with evidence? Puh-leeeeze. And Carter was just like, "Okay sure I'll seduce guys and violate them and take down FBI security cameras why not?" Whatever helps Reese out, I guess. I think Carter worked better when she wasn't fully employed by Reese and Finch.

I know several of you probably enjoyed the episode, and indeed there were some great parts, particularly seeing Finch as Mr. Swift the substitute teacher. But Reese's absence left a huge void that Finch, Carter, and Fusco couldn't fill. Without Reese, the episode became a very standard procedural without the action we've come to expect from the show. Had Person of Interest used the opportunity to make "2πR" a Finch-centric episode, complete with backstory and strong character moments, it would have been a different story. But instead it was just a normal episode of Person of Interest without Reese, and that's a formula that just doesn't add up. (And no I will not apologize for all my stupid math puns.)



NOTES OF INTEREST

– How many actors from The Wire have appeared on this show?

– This week's Finch quote: "May I remind you that of the many things I am equipped to do, pursuit is not a chief one of them."

– No Bear makes me sad.

– So next week, Carter gets to torture/interrogate Reese? That should be interesting!



Follow TV.com writer Tim Surette on Twitter: @TimAtTVDotCom

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shows how vital Reese is :)

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I am female and in the 35 to 45 range and to me this show makes you come back each week to see what danger John is in, or if Finch can figure out what the computer new name comes out next. To me it is fun and keeps me on the edge of my seat. For it to be in 2 season I think as a TV watcher it is in my top 10 drama shows. I use to not like cbs so much about 5 years ago but they have came along way. And this is my independent opinion as a viewer. And my first.POI is getting better amd more interesting to watch!! Thanks for listening Kay
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What about the Joey Tribbiani reference in the bar? "how you doing?"
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LOL I thought of it myself!
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To me this episode felt like the second part of a trilogy, which it kinda is. And the second part is always a little stale, it's a transport from part A to part B and making it interesting (especially in as little as 44 min) is a big challenge. I think they did well. Reese is my favorite character but Finch has earned the spotlight.
But to continue what I was saying about the episode being a transport, of course they weren't gonna resolve this situation right away. Reese being arrested is one of the few things in this show that we've always known was gonna happen at some point, and looked forward to seeing unfold. Of course they're gonna drag it out, did anyone seriously expect otherwise? Has this show ever given up anything in as little as two episodes?
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Anyone else notice that, once again, POI doesn't make it to the "Most Commented Posts?"
The 130 comments here should put it in 4th place - well ahead of the bottom 2 by more than 2X. What's with that, Tim?
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One of the things I love about this show is that in almost every episode it reaches the point where I think "Oh, no! How will fix this? It's almost over!" And then I realize it's just passed the half way mark (usually 35min). Awesome! They pack so much into so little.

Thrilled at the extra screen time for Finch and Fusco and all their scenes together. The twists and turns on the # were interesting enough though mostly I enjoyed Finch's empathy. No flashbacks but I liked the little hints into Finch's rebellious teen past (during the Cold War! teehee, had to be mindboggling to the kid - a hacker from the late 60's). A potential future ally though! The character would need to be developed for that though and for now Leon works better as a back up computer user. Hmmmm .... and I guess it would be a terrible idea to let the kid, Caleb?, within sniffing distance of the Machine or any of Finch's computers).

TPH must be happy with getting to stretch herself a bit - coquette Carter was entertaining. Loved the giggles. And the banter with the guy about all the weird medical information - I hope the drug she gave him also clears short term memory. Cat burgler Carter was pretty hot - talk about going out on a limb for Team Machine! Glad she finally acknowledged to Finch that she had already broke every rule - breaking into a crime lab was nothing. And that purple dress puts a bit more authenticity into the infamous TV Guide photo shoot.

Donelly's storyline is getting a bit odd - they didn't do enough background on that. He seems like he's taking Reese personally and I don't think that has enough support. And the way he pings from theory to theory (mob enforcer, mercenary for hire, employee of Chinese Intelligence ...) make it seems like he wants Reese rather than the person that IS a mob enforcer or mercenary or Chinese intel (although what someone who works for Chinese Intel would be doing running around NY knee capping gang bangers and crooked cops is beyond me). In any case, I'm enjoying Reese's capture and the dilemma of his compatriots as they try and get him out but I'm less fond of Donnelly than I used to be. His implicit trust in Carter is also weirdly fierce but I'm willing to accept it's just something about her (can't get much more paranoid and cynical than Reese and he seems to feel it, too). Donnelly's approaching contrived Plot Device pretty quickly =P I'm hoping that improves next week.
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I love Machineheads!!hahaha
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This was a very good episode. The writers did a good job by not sticking with the same formula. It was interesting to see how Finch would handle the situation with Reese out of the equation. Overall, 2-PI-R offered something different and was quite engaging.
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Are you kidding?? This was the best episode of the series so far. Emerson was BRILLIANT as the substitute math teacher, unpacking the mysteries of pi for the bored students. I for one enjoyed the break from corny humor and Reese smashing kneecaps (no offense to Reese, who is still awesome). Finch fascinates me to no end as a character, and Emerson turned in a performance packed with fragile pathos. I loved all his scenes with Caleb. The kid who played Caleb was great.

As for Carter, I admit that disappointed me a bit. She's just bustling around doing whatever for them now. Seems her own personal code has been corrupted a little. What's she doing getting some random dude's DNA? I mean that's totally unjust. He was just some guy and here she is putting it in their data bank (if I understand it right, I admit that whole part of the show lost my slow brain a little).

Another thing is it did make me feel funny to see them spying on Caleb with his mom. The whole spying thing has always bugged me a little about this show. You're invading a person's privacy and there's no getting around that. I mean (to take a mundane example) what if Caleb's mom decided to wander around the house in a bra because nobody else was there and she felt like it? Whoever was keeping virtual tabs on her at the moment would get to see that. I think in the end freedom may be a more valuable thing than security. That's a question that I don't know if the show has ever really explored. To my satisfaction anyway.
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The DNA collected from the four suspects were for comparison purposes to identify a specific suspect. The samples are discarded if not required as evidence. Carter knew that. And even if the FBI kept it (illegally) who is to say this guy's DNA isn't in some other database - from donating blood for example, or some medical diagnostic test. Or maybe he is ex-military. Other than using the guy Carter did not put him in any legal jeopardy.
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Thanks for clarifying. That part confused me a little.
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In that reply I should have added that Carter did not put the guy in any legal jeopardy unless in running the sample the FBI get a match to some other outstanding case. Who knows, the guy may be a fugitive.
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Well I would think that once they break John out of prison (why isn't he just in jail? he hasn't been convicted of anything but anyway) they can go back into the system and erase that dude's DNA record.
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John isn't in prison. He's in jail, (although there really isn't a whole hell of a difference). They specifically mentioned Riker's (On Riker's Island) which replaced the tombs in Manhatten for holding suspects until arraignment.
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The adds have been saying "While Mr Reese sits in Prison..."
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They're probably using the terms interchangably without making the distinction between jail and prison..
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Tim, I'm confused. All last year and into this season - until now - you have had nothing but high praise for POI. Then, in the past month, you not only did not vote POI even one of 2012s top dramatic series - you skipped them completely. This does not match your reviews at all. And now you ominously write here (and kind of insultingly), "Okay fellow Person of Interstites, Machineheads, or POIs (do we have a name?), (How about just "fans")? It's 2013 so it's time to crank up the criticism and be a little harsher on our favorite show about a vigilante odd couple."
Why is that, Tim? Your credibility is shrinking...
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Have read a lot of comments here about the drug pushers part of the plot being boring or throw-away or filler. One thing I'd caution: Never assume that we won't be seeing these guys bringing a major twist to the story later on down the line. Likewise Caleb.

I continue to wonder how many of the PoIs The Machine now classifies as Assets
in Reserve. Will there be a time when The Machine coughs up a number plus staffing suggestions? How cool would it be for The Machine to dispatch Fusco to help Reese without bothering to run it through Finch first!

BTW, I thought Carter looked very pretty, not slutty.

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Actually I appreciate POI shaking up the usual formula and doing it as well as they do. To me it has nothing to do with a character's relevance or necessity, and for me this episode did not suffer from not having a main character in every scene. I hope POI does more of this mixing and matching, or mismatching, of the ensemble to present interesting stories outside the usual box. Any well written stories and characters which shake up the expected is fine by me.
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I agree that without Reese having a more starring role, the episode did lack a little but I enjoyed seeing Finch get such a solid episode. I didn't think it was all bad and I really like Luke Kleintank from playing Finn on "Bones". Personally, I just don't think POI can do any wrong and it was nice to see Finch and Fusco team up and work this one out.
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This was probably my favorite episode yet-- not a good thing when talking about an episode in which the lead actor is largely absent. But Finch has always been a more interesting character than Reese (at least to me). And I'm getting pretty tired of Caviezel's one-note delivery. His line readings make David Caruso's seem positively scintillating by comparison. His character, unlike Emerson's, is replaceable, and I for one would not be too heartbroken to see that happen.
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Agreed. Don't get me wrong, I think Reese is a fun character and really does make the show. I'm not *not* saying he's uninteresting.

But I've always found Finch to be the most interesting. Whether it's learning of his back-story, watching him act mysterious, or just listening to him chat it up with Reese... there's more there.

It's a solid trade off... Reese gets to act cool, mysterious, and shoot people in the knee caps. Finch gets to be more mysterious and gets some witty dialog.

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Actually I'm done with Tim's reviews. Not just this series, but with others they seem to have no basis, and as I've commented before, his writing may be meant to be witty and funny but comes off as just snarky.
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I think Tim is sort of in love with Reese, which is why this episode was so disappointint for him LOL. It was fine for me. I found interesting that the young character was a genius like Flinch. Am I the only one that thinks that this guy will be back in the show later on? Because otherwise, was there any point to him being a genius at all? Don´t we need more hackers in our war agains the evil hackers and to help the machine, etc? What do you guys think it's coming next season? This is going to change in a different direction soon, isn't it?
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I'm sorry but I don't see Finch letting this kid know about the machine. He would never risk his life that way. He won't even tell Carter or Fusco about it, he gave up Grace for it and got Henry Peck out of the country when he found out about it. Caleb is too smart of a kid for Finch to ask him for any sort of help regarding what they do for the machine. That's not to say he won't ever come back but I don't see how they can use him safely and stay in character with Finch. He just would never risk it.
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ok, but did you notice that Finch gave his telephone number to the kid? Why did he do that for? Because if I was that boy, I would call him.
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To wrap things up like he's not gonna leave the kid hanging. So that if the kid needs some mentoring he's there to help him. Give him a reference for college ect. It doesn't mean for sure we are ever gonna see the character again. It was like telling Nathan's son to keep in touch.
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I didn´t see it the same way as with nathan's son, basically because the other guy is family to him, and not a genius. But we shall see then :)
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Y'know, i totally agree with Tim's review. Apart from "Contingency", Season 2 appears to be a dumbed down version of the first Season. The stories appear to be the same, but all the factors that made that first season a must watch has been missing to a very large extent.i.e the flashbacks, back-stories, and even Carter's moral stand that provides such an interesting contrast to the main guys, since we know that ultimately they are working towards the same goal. a lot of the stories now are just fillers in my opinion.
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this is a procedural.. you, Tim and some others seem to forget this fact.. of course the cases will fell similar after some point as they are resolved in more or less a similar formula, that is why they are "procedures".. what you call as fillers, is what the show is exactly about.. the seasonal arcs, the flashbacks and the rest are just ropes that tie the cases of each week to each other, they are not the main premise of the show..
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THANK YOU! Finally someone else who gets it! In all the reviews and comments I have read the one thing I cannot stand is when someone refers to an episode of tv as "Filler" As if the producers didn't really want those episodes to be written and made and they were forced upon them. Just like you said the whole point of shows like POI and for example Supernatural, which has a very similar format, is that it's mostly procedural or case of the week, with the serialized story arcs in small doses along the way, and whole episodes that are dedicated to them throughout the season. And so if the procedure/case of the week is part of the show how exactly is it filler? the answer is it isn't!
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this is true, however, I was expecting the show to turn into different type of issues related to the machine - to fight people that want to control it, like that lady hacker, and other things like that. I don´t know yet if this will happen or if it will be like Red John from the mentalist, just a thing from first and last episode arc every season... but I hope it will grow further than the pure procedural!
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It was interesting to see that Finch was trying to explain them the solution to the problem how to add up the numbers from 1 to 100. About 60 years ago, a school teacher asked exactly the same from my mother's math class. Just by herself she came up with the same formula, that the result is 50 times 101. However, the teacher gave her a very bad grade - just because she outsmarted him in front of the class. She was brilliant at math, but since she was from a German village in the early 50ies, she was not allowed to finish high school. Studying was out of question.
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They took a risk alright but for me it worked, I loved the episode, great storyline with less violence.
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I thought the episode was pretty cool. Different, which is always interesting in one way or another. I did hope Reese would be released in time to shoot some drug lord knee-caps and save Caleb, but I suppose the "don't kill yourself" speech was good enough. Carter's actions did feel a little out of character, too. I suppose this is the writers showing us how far Carter's willing to go for the dynamic duo.
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Tim the episode explain a lot of backstory of Finch without any flashback. The story of the famous hacker who escape ones, the dialogue between him and Caleb in the end is all about the bad decisions (he talk about the break point of his life, the mistery around Ingram death) he made in the past. Sorry Tim, but I disagree with you.
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so many people have explained it so well below, that I will only add that I agree with all those who thought the episode was great and Tim, your review was not great at all.. I think the episode revealed just as it should about Finch's past as well as personality, and both the "teacher seem to be stealing codes" / "drug dealers"angles are just how they are presented in each and every episode of POI: we need diversion so that reaching the final point makes sense.. and Carter has explained herself very well to Finch as "she has crossed that line long ago", and she actually did, so what made you so surprised about her actions is a total mystery to me.. your obssession with Bear is kinda becoming annoying, and calling the boy an emo and calling his attempt to commit suicide due to guilt, at the exact age his brother died as "idiotic"? sorry but that is low and sad on behalf of you.. sometimes it feels like you write such stuff just to troll and get reaction.. of course you are not supposed to like every single episode and this wasn't an epic one but one expects to see better argumantation..
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already wrote this comment below as a response to someone, but based on what you wrote it warrants the same response.
This is something I think this writer has done on more than one occasion on different shows, honestly I don't know why anyone would hire this hack as a critic. His reasoning behind his negative reviews are unintelligible, just like his writing. More often than not he gets the facts wrong and even his telling of the events in the episode are wrong which leads one to believe that he had the episode on tv in the background as he was doing something else. I think that he, like some people, does not actually watch tv shows, they look at them and some have a pen and paper to write down every little nitpick that they can bitch about later.
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A flawed episode! Wasn't Reese already identified visually in the Season 1 finale? The footage of him escorting Root into the hotel? Am surprised the producers missed this.
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Not just grainy, but insufficient pixilation for facial recognition software, which makes it practically useless.
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But it's a grainy photo. I would think that is why Donnelly wants Carter to start with Reese, because he most closely matches the photo but until he as a biometric match or a confession he doesn't have it in the bag.
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Exactly, all the images hthey have of Reese (the ones we've seen so far) are blurry, otherwise tDonnemy wouldn't have kept the other blokes.
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What are Person of Interest fans called? On Tumblr, I've heard us referenced as "Irrelevants" (as in the irrelevant numbers that Finch talks about).
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Tumblr is like hell's kitchen for Person of Interest fans! It's crazy and the best place to catch the the mood of the fandom, imo! ;)
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Yes, indeedy. :)
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I liked this episode. I don't know, this show has an awful lot of procedural simplicity I don't like but at the same time, the hints of the machine, the backstories, more interesting characters adding up (I'm sorry? Fusco and Carter? This shows badly needs more secondary characters that may stay for a while) not to mention all the cool bad guys organizations like HR, mafias, Root (I love Root, if this show doesn't end with the machine setting freed by her I'll...I don't know what I'll do :P).

Anyway, the episode. They should have focused more on Caleb's skills and backstory to what Finch did during the cold war and ARPAnet, that would have been a great story-arc leading up to when he decided or got the idea to build the machine. I wholeheatedly agree with the annoying emo thing and the other fluff they added into this, the teacher part was OK. I must say I was entirely OK with Reese off screen this episode, I prefer Finch as The Guy and Reese as the side kick but it'll be good to have him back.

Next episode: I can't wait to see the dynamics between Carter and Reese if she's going to torture him. I hope they really bring on a balance one where she won't overdo it so the FBI guy steps in or she doesn't do squat and both Reese and FBI guy will think something like "What the hell? Kids could enjoy that.."

Hoping for: more flashbacks about the machine.
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I loved this episode. I love it when a tv show does something different. I was sure that Reese was going to come back by the end but then, THAT happened. I am loving how the creators are handling the series.
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I loved Finch in the lime light! Sure i missed John, but this added a great element. I think I did come to learn more about finch and appreciate his lonesomeness AND his hacking skills. Plus this episode surprised me with it's twists. I really enjoyed this episode.
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Way way off base Tim. As are so many of your reviews. Perhaps trying too hard to find things to citicize? All the character's actions, particularly Carter's, were completely consistent with their evolution in the series so far. All the little elements you ranted about were required for the plot to work, to introduce red herrings, and demonstrate Caleb's genius, otherwise this episode wouldn't have made any sense. I for one don't need to be fed Reese or Finch's past in every episode. I enjoy the writers' pacing so far. Another well done episode, way above the average network fare. So far at least, this show doesn't need any messing with.
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I already wrote this comment below as a response to someone, but based on what you wrote it warrants the same response.
This is something I think this writer has done on more than one occasion on different shows, honestly I don't know why anyone would hire this hack as a critic. His reasoning behind his negative reviews are unintelligible, just like his writing. More often than not he gets the facts wrong and even his telling of the events in the episode are wrong which leads one to believe that he had the episode on tv in the background as he was doing something else. I think that he, like some people, does not actually watch tv shows, they look at them and some have a pen and paper to write down every little nitpick that they can bitch about later.
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Help me out here...what happened to the drug dealer and why was Caleb involved with him?
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Fusco "took care of him". As a cop that most likely means he arrested him. Caleb was not involved with the drug dealer directly. He forged out on his own to become a drug dealer himself to make money for his mother to be taken care of after he killed himself. Caleb took the customer's of the drug dealer, thus dropping the dealer's profits which pissed him off and put the hit onto Caleb.
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The drug dealer was probably busted by Fusco before he went to the subway station to find Finch and Caleb. Remember he told Finch when Calab didn't show up for the drug he'd tae care of the dealer.
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In my opinion, it's seems that season 1 was perfectly planed and executed. But so far season 2, even if there are great things about it, seems less sure of where it's going next.

It kind of makes me think of prison break, in a much smaller way, where the difference between season 1 and 2 was flagrant
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IT WAS ONE OF THE BEST EPISODES I´VE EVER SEEN. I´M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEXT THURSDAY. THE JOHN/CARTER SCENE WILL BE EPIC! I LOVE THIS SHOW!
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I completely disagree with this review. I really enjoyed the episode.

Carter, as she herself stated in the episode, said that she crossed the line a long time ago. Throughout the season she has helped Reese/Finch out a lot, and has also looked the other way a lot, so her behaviour in this episode did not come as a shock to me.

Only negative was no Reese and I definitly noticed that he wasn't in the epsiode in any siginficant way. However, they found a way to make it work (Emerson knocked it out of the park). So the way I see it, Cavizel got a much deserved week off and good for him. But I don't want this to become a thing and I am pretty confident that it won't; we need our weekly dose of Reese kicking ass.
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I think Tim is worrying too much that CBS might ruin the show's format, I share that anxiety but perhaps he lets it show a little too much in this review, so it overshadows the actual episode. Which was pretty badass in my book, I loved it.
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I don't think Carter was engaging in torture techniques in Iraq, from what we've seen so far quite the contrary, it was her moral standards that forced her to quit the Army and become a police officer ~ that remains to be seen however, we still don't know what really went on in Iraq with Carter.

I share Tim's worry about CBS interfering too much with this fantastic show, trying to introduce its cheesy, family-entertainment type of humour and simplistic plotlines into it. Leave it alone CBS, it kicks a** the way it is and that's why we love it!!

That said, this seemed like a pretty dramatic episode to me, and staying true to the pattern of the background flashes being in direct relation to the episode story ~ the one explains the other in a way, and adds elements to the viewer's understanding. I liked Caleb's character, and I don't think he seemed superficial, a kid with genius strings of code in his mind all the time isn't likely to interact normally. And yes, 17-year old kids are emo. That's normal, we all were at that age. We learned about Finch being "the original Internet hacker", and had some hints about how he may have grown up ~ similar to Caleb, it seemed to me...

Let's hope Reese gets out in the next episode, and the show keeps getting darker and more complex! If we wanted a boring, typical prodecural we'd be watching NCIS, thank you very much.
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" I share Tim's worry about CBS interfering too much with this fantastic show, trying to introduce its cheesy, family-entertainment type of humour and simplistic plotlines into it. Leave it alone CBS, it kicks a** the way it is and that's why we love it!!" That scares me, because I think it might be what's happening. They should give these guys total freedom, in case they aren't!
" If we wanted a boring, typical procedural we'd be watching NCIS, thank you very much" Agree 1000%! (nothing against ncis, i've no idea what it is about--just not interested in procedurals) But the thing is, I believe most of us are here for the long story arcs and for the character development.
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I don't have anything against NCIS either, it's a decent show for the type of show that it is - I'm just interested in a darker, more complicated, twisted type of series with long story arcs like PoI which is totally perfect the way it is. I was scared with too much doggie time and humorous lines in episodes 3-8 of season 2. Let's hope they untie their hands completely and they allow them to make the show the full-blown success that it has the potential to become. Fingers crossed!!
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Loved Reese's comment about the phone in the cell :-)
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I don't watch the show but doesn't a show like this have to have one of the main characters go missing and in peril at some point? I mean that's tv 101 and I've been watching tv for decades so I really don't get this review.
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I think Tim's point is that if you're going to remove a main character, then the hole should be filled with Finch's backstory. Instead, the writers filled it with a throwaway filler story about drug dealers that had no bearing on the end game.
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Thank you for a cogent response.
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It doesn't make much sense to comment about a show you're not watching, does it
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I explained it in another post maybe you should read the board before commenting and the fact that I don't watch the show doesn't invalidate my points. How bout you refute what I said or stfu doesn't make much sense responding with no argument does it.
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You can't have an argument about something you know nothing about - unless of course you use the word "argument" to mean a fight; which you do, judging by your tone and behaviour
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No I just think my original post was clear. This show is like many other shows I've seen. So even though I don't watch it the scenarios are going to be the same. I don't understand why one episode without a main character would be as bad as Tim made it out to be. Since it happens all the time in other shows. My tone comes from an expectation of an actual refutation of what I said and not just oh you don't watch the show get out of here.
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Perhaps you don't get this review because as you stated, you don't watch the show. That said, why are you commenting on this thread? Your tv 101 explanation is too general and we all get that. But again, the review pertains to specific points in the series. So again, if you don't watch it......you are not gonna get it.
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Perhaps but tv tends to be general and pretty formulaic. I have a hard time believing a show like this can't have one episode where a main character is missing and it be okay. Tim has a habit of going over board and I fear this may be an example of such behavior.
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I do have to agree with the "so what if John is barly there" angle. I didn't expect to see him much this episode as part of the storyline. I have read others wishing John had a story inside the prision where he took out some bad guys there or broke up fights or anything more action related. My thought on that is what would tipping his hat to Donnelly that he really IS the man in the suit do? John did what he had to, he sat quietly in jail to avoid further suspicion while his friends helped him on his behalf.
This season is about Harrold's backstory anyway, which is why we are getting tons of Harrold flashbacks and character reviels. And there were PLENTY of those in last night's episode.
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I could not disagree more. This was an excellent episode. It showed how all the characters not just Reese have developed since the beginning. Finch may still be a timid little computer genius but he is no longer scared of everyone and everything, on occasion he even shows signs of actual bravery.

Fusco is no longer just looking out for his own interests, e.g the way he put himself on the line by following Carter's new boyfriend. Also the whole thing with Carter breaking the law and lying to the FBI adds tremendous tension. I actually felt scared for her, but at the same time I felt bad for the poor FBI guy who is honest and decent.

Doing the right thing may make Finch a braver man, give Reese a purpose, lead to Fusco's salvation but will it lead to Carter's destruction? I, for one, can't wait to find out.
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Agree completly. Not sure what the review is all about. Certainly missed the mark here.
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Agreed! This episode was great in setting up so many new developments..even if it was slightly lacking in the usual bad-assery & handsome (oh, Jim, how your eyes make it so difficult for a girl to concentrate on your lines..). And I, for one, didn't mind the emo genius - he was a fun little character card to play - anything that gets Finch peeking out of his own genius closet is fine by me.
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Just love that image: Finch peeking out of his own genius closet. LOVE that!
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I'm not sure that Fusco could have ever been accused of just looking out for his own interests. Fusco, rightly pegged by John in the pilot, is just a loyal follower. He does what he's told by who ever is influencing him at the time. He became a dirty cop because his partner Stills was. The people influencing him now are Finch and Reese and his actions now are directly based on them. He's following Beecher the same way John would (blu-jacked phone and all) because he knows John would do the same if privy to what Fusco has witnessed. Fusco is actually a good cop (as in good at being a cop), he's just not a "leader type" person.
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woow Tim,really??? After hanging us dry on winter's finale and Fringe's review(yeah I get it,you weren't able to do it,but you could find someone to review episode as others do), I am letdown by this week's review of POI.
Perosnally I thought it was great episode. We learned about Finch(did we not...even more so in the last minutes of episode...he was that hacker,no?), Carter decided to help even before Finch asked her to...she was already planing on doing stuff,she just said she needed some stuff,to pull it off. Yes it threw me off little,that it wasn't Reese's main problem center of episode,but I still enjoyed episode. Finch,Carter and Fusco were great. So was Caleb. While there was no Bear,how many scenes can they do,with Finch looking him funny or something along those lines,before it is played out? For me never and Finch is really warming to Bear,I can understand that some people might say..."great another scene with Bear and Finch doing "nothing" ." and that's why they don't include Bear as much as maybe they want to. Teacher had nice twist and was super glad,that he was helping Caleb! Yes drug dealer wasn't really worth that much,but it is,what it is.
When will agent learn or at least suspect,that Carter might not be so inocent and that she is helping man in suit? I mean, it is clear that man in suit is getting help from inside and if you know math, you put 2+2+2+2+2+2=Carter is helping man in suit(12 here yes).

I will never get this really really smart guys or geniuses. For all their smart's worth,they are really stupid,when making some choices. They could do something really good and beneficial for world and people. And as soon as some private investors show or some goverment,that wants them to do things on hush-hush side,giving them money and saying it is top secret,it will help world,etc. they make stupid decision. This is little side-tracked rant from my side,but it does relate to Finch in some ways(meaning creating this machine for goverment).
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I agree about the dog, I mean okay, the dog is cute, but dissing an episode because the dog isn't there? What more can the dog do after all, besides bark, bite on the occasional criminal and just sit there being cute. More action and intrigue, less doggie time please! (I know I'm in the minority here but it's my opinion)
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Keeping it simple, bad review and you are wrong.
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One of the show's least believable points: that someone could actually get rich from a compression codec. It wouldn't be long before the code for it wound up on TPB. And if it wasn't free there wouldn't be many people who adopted it. There is also a practical limit as to how much something can be compressed before you loose data.

I do have to wonder to how many digits does Finch know Pi.
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It's not the program but the algorithm. If he patented it, he could get very rich. Compression and encryption are two areas with great potential but you have to be extremely good at maths to come up with something novel.
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A little Intellectual Property 101 - it's not the sale of the codec algorithm but the conditions of its patent and license that creates how the profit part plays out.

Case in point: H.264 has become a gold standard for web-based media - what we see as .mp4 files? It's expected by 2015 to cost $22 million to license for use in developer and operating system software. It's a cost that doesn't overtly come from the consumer, rather, it's wrapped into the licensing fees consumers pay for software (think Adobe, high-end audio editing, codec support for all operating systems many now device-related and not on traditional computers, etc. etc.)

Were the Finch scenario real-world, if he has the patents on that software, he's not only richie-rich-rich, but making continuing royalties per license fee. :)
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"We didn't learn much about him at all."
"How very emo."
"To me, there were a lot of unnecessary moving parts in the case..."
"Weren't you the moral police in Season 1?"
"Now you're pulling clothes out of your slut drawer..."
"Without Reese, the episode became a very standard procedural without the action we've come to expect from the show."

The list for why this blog is so ill-equipped to deliver the pros and cons for PoI's episodes goes on and on and ON...
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This is something I think this writer has done on more than one occasion on different shows, honestly I don't know why anyone would hire this hack as a critic. His reasoning behind his negative reviews are unintelligible, just like his writing case and point by the quotes you wrote. More often than not he gets the facts wrong and even his telling of the events in the episode are wrong which leads one to believe that he had the episode on tv in the background as he was doing something else. I think that he, like some people, does not actually watch tv shows, they look at them and some have a pen and paper to write down every little nitpick that they can bitch about later.
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this episode was great although it lacked Reese but the next episode looks like its going to be all about Reese with that said i dont mind getting some education from Mr. Finch i never knew that the number Pie contains everything about everyone all around the world. Love this show.
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It is actually not known for certain that pi has this property, but the evidence seems to suggest that it does. A number with the property that Finch described is called a "normal" number. At the moment we do not have the tools necessary to prove whether a number is normal or not in general (there are some "simple" examples where we do have a proof). But an analysis of the first trillion digits or so of pi suggests that it is normal.

I am going to assume that Finch has actually proved this result, but never published it because he doesn't want to bring attention to the fact that he is still alive. That leaves the slight inconsistency of the fact that he reported this information to a classroom full of students. I suppose he felt that there was no risk here since it was likely that none of those students (except 1) would recall what he said well enough to report it to anyone else.
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By the way, there is nothing really special about pi here. Almost all real numbers are normal (in the sense that the set of numbers that are not normal has measure zero).
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Could not agree less with this review. The episode was excellent. There should be more finch-centric episodes. Also, they cannot reveal a lot of back story each episode. The show would be over in 1 season and I want it to last forever!!!!!!
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I thought it was a great episode, even without Reese's presence. Reese doesn't have to shoot kneecaps or kick ass for every episode to be good. Everything that occurred in this episode made sense. Reese was in prison for crying out loud!!! What were you expecting?!!
Finch, Carter and Fusco seriously held it down tonight and I give them major kudos for that.

Yes, they could've delved into Finch's backstory more, but it didn't happen. Let it go!! You know they'll get to it sooner or later. I would think you could exercise a little more patience for a quality show like this. Besides, how much backstory do you need at this point. It's only the second season.

Carter helping Reese the way she did shouldn't be that surprising. She's now a full-fledged member of the team. She's made the turnaround from antagonist to associate wonderfully, and for you to question that is complete bullcrap to me. We've been witnessing it since the premiere of season 2 for crying out loud!!!
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Tim, I greatly appreciate the usual review (as I'm practically obsessed with this series), but I had to disagree with most of your assessment. For starters, I can't speak for most POI fans, but the ones I know like to call themselves "The Irrelevants" (not that it's too important, but whatever). Anyway, I thought this particular episode was actually among the most well-written and entertaining ones of the entire series, for several reasons.

First, the whole, "Reese was too absent from the story" narrative. Yes, it could be considered as being a highly risky and daring move by the writing/production staff to vastly limit Jim Caviezel's screen-time, but it was bold and quite compelling. Michael Emerson's acting was nothing short of fantastic throughout this episode, and it truly demonstrated just how unique Finch's character is to the larger scheme of things, even isolated from "John Reese."

Jonathan Nolan wonderfully provided us viewers a taste of Reese having to work without Finch during the first episode of season two ("The Contingency"), which he personally wrote (along with Denise Thé); by most accounts, the episode was well-received and included one of Reese's best scenes (his rage against "The Machine" moment). Thus, we have now been given a sample of an antithetical circumstance: Finch without Reese, and frankly, I found it to be masterfully amusing.

The premise that this episode may have come across as just another "POI of the Week" case is preposterous, given the blatantly personal context of Finch's interactions with Caleb. The scene occurring at the subway station towards the end of the episode was very illustrative of how Finch thinks and feels, relating his own life experiences to Caleb's when there was no requirement to do so. Could there be a lot more to Finch's unexplained past involving Nathan Ingram that we're unaware of? Most hardcore fans of POI would obviously say "Yes," but this episode essentially whacked us over the head with a giant sledgehammer screaming, "YES!"

Are we supposed to believe that Finch casually handed Caleb the first 3,000 digits of pi and explicitly told him, "My number's in there somewhere. You're smart. You'll figure it out" if there wasn't some greater meaning behind that scene? It should go without saying that Finch clearly saw a reflection of himself inside Caleb, and hence, this episode wasn't another "random POI" in need of assistance - without "The Man in the Suit" to come to his or her aid. This was Finch's case, and one he needed to handle on his own because of the striking parallels between himself and Caleb.

The speech Finch delivered to the high school class regarding pi and how it contains "every single number" was absolutely phenomenal. Emerson's timing and delivery was impeccable, and the reaction from the students sent a mild chill down my back. It also (indirectly) gave us greater insight into the mechanics of The Machine, and how it so effectively discovers even the slightest of connections between two subjects; that is, The Machine could perhaps use a system of "calculating pi," which could entail endlessly searching for a specific set of numbers and/or letters until it can establish some sort of paradigm (which Finch even demonstrated to Nathan in a flashback during the season one episode, "Super").

The lack of any "Finch flashbacks" didn't concern me too much, because we DID get a better understanding of Finch's past once it was (heavily) implied that he was, indeed, the "hacker who got away." So, we have now learned that Finch's tinkering with computers and technology predates the modern-day "Internet" as we all know it.

Moreover, Carter was simply amazing in her own right. The "heroic antagonist" many of us (myself included) came to adore in season one is now - for the most part - gone. As another commentator correctly noted, it was Carter's plan which was being executed, not Finch's. The result of Carter taking the lead to save Reese without hesitation or waiting for orders from Finch resulted in one of her most remarkable scenes, where she almost proudly stated, "That line you're talking about? I crossed it a long time ago." Finch's demeanor in response was outstanding.

To wrap things up, this was the first episode after the holiday break. I'm not saying viewers should lower their standards for these type of episodes, but it's basically smack dab in the middle of the season, so we shouldn't expect everything to pick up again so rapidly. Last year, Finch took Reese into hiding while the latter recuperated, and the two dealt with a standard POI case ("Super"); however, in that same episode, Carter began to learn more about Finch (where the two officially conversed for the first time), the viewer learned more about The Machine's capabilities (via flashbacks), and Reese - believe it or not - wasn't that relevant to the plot.

Sure, Reese owned a dude while being crippled ("Super") at this point in the series, last season, but now he's in jail. Of course we weren't going to see much of Reese, because the FBI (well, Donnelly) was hellbent on keeping him locked up for 72 hours, and Finch couldn't exactly gossip with him over the phone since he was busy doing what they normally do. To summarize, I loved this episode: Michael Emerson's acting was extraordinary, Fusco was more prominent than usual, Carter was humorously bubbly during the bar scene, and there's even the potential for "Team Machine" to gain a new member.
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Wow you are awesome! I swear this comment basically word for word is exactly how I feel and also what I would have written myself! This includes your other response comment below as well. I also think that this was one of the best episodes of the entire series! Michael Emerson is a amazing actor,and I would probably paid more attention in math class if I had a teacher like Finch lol I mean during during that explanation of Pi scene, beside it being awesome, I was just like those students who suddenly were paying attention and had a look of awe on their faces! I loved seeing "Super Spy Carter" and I think that an episode without Reese that focused on Finch in the usual Reese in the field role, with Fusco as the go to cop that usually goes to Carter worked just fine. (My name for a spinoff would be The Adventures of Finch, Fusco and Bear!) I also would not mind more episodes like this in the future, maybe they could do an episode that requires Finch to team up with Fusco along with Bear of course, and Reese teams up with Carter and have them do something like maybe multiple POI's as they have done before or some reason for Team Machine( Oh yeah maybe it's cuz I don't read enough review or comments but your the first person I have ever seen or read to use the term "Team Machine" other than myself) to split up. And so what if the episode was Reese lite, the show has four main characters, even if you want to consider Carter and Fusco supporting or "White Box" characters, Finch is still the second of the two "Yellow Box" characters and is interesting enough to carry the show so I don't see it as being risky at all. So sorry to this writer and others, saying that this episode was not good cuz of less Reese, or what could have made it better is more Reese, is just plain stupid cuz he is in every other episode of the the show in his normal starring role. He is not a new character nor has he been absent for multiple episodes so ON episode without him does not mean the show is going downhill, nor wold have made the episode better cuz it WASN'T about him
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Exactly!
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I know it's early, but I'd like to nominate this for comment of the year.
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Haha, thanks. :D
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Maybe you can help me with my biggest problem with this episode -- what happened with the drug dealer? Who took him out of the way? Why couldn't he just get rid of the boy at school or home? Either the writers or the editing made the mistake here. POI does not normally leave loose ends like that. Reese would have normally taken care of this detail which is why it stands out so prominently.

Otherwise I agree with most of your assessment. But I do agree with Tim that this entire season has leaned more heavily on the procedural side. I still enjoy watching, but I do keep going back to watch the first season. It was so good.
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Credit to LeeCuttler for pointing it out, but Fusco told Finch he would take care of the drug dealers. People have been complaining as of late that season two has been more "procedural" compared to season one (which I disagree with), and yet, we need to see Fusco literally putting a bunch of drug dealers in handcuffs?

Remember the season one episode, "Cura Te Ipsum"? We (the viewers) never saw what happened to Andrew Benton, the sex offender who was being revenge-targeted by Dr. Tillman. However, that wasn't too important and it was implied in a later episode ("Many Happy Returns") that Reese plants evidence on the worst scumbags and sends them off to the Mexican authorities.

One of the things I love about POI is how the writers don't treat the viewers like children who can't think for themselves. We don't need to see every little detail pertaining to the "procedural" aspects of the show in order to reach a conclusion, because that's what thinking is for.

A lot of the flashbacks in season one involved Elias, Carter, Kara Stanton, and Nathan Ingram. While these characters are greatly important to the overall plot, other developments must occur before the writers can give us more information regarding the pasts of Finch and Reese (i.e. what exactly happened to Ingram which led to his "death").

As for Reese, we've seen a lot of his past but the character is reaching a turning-point in the series, so the writers could possibly feel it's not time to reveal more flashbacks until Reese is fleshed-out more.

Next episode lists Elias, Stanton, and "Pennsylvania Two" as recurring characters, so I wouldn't worry too much about the quality of the series being in jeopardy.
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There is a huge difference in writing a story that creates ambiguity that adds to the story as in Cura Te Ipsum (my absolute favorite ending of any POI) and the dropping of a major line of pursuit as if it were an afterthought as was done in this episode. Cura Te Ipsum is evidence that POI stories are usually better constructed.

I don't worry that the series is in jeopardy. I have however noted that there has been a noticeable change. I still watch and enjoy it, but not as much as the first year.
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No offense or anything, but I was only trying to illustrate out how it's kind of a silly point to make. Is Reese only good for the story when it involves him being violent?

This episode was great because of how uniquely-written it was. There have been situations where Reese personally identified with the POI of the week ("Foe" and "Many Happy Returns" for example), but we've never really seen one where Finch behaves the same way.

Hence, we get this quirky episode. No flashback sequences, no "Man in the Suit" running around the city as he kicks ass and shoots people in the kneecaps, no usual victim or perpetrator; instead, we get a kid who wants to kill himself for something he feels guilty for, and lo and behold, Mr. Finch can directly relate to the kid's experience.
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Thanks Derpanos for making my point.
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What "dropping of a major line of pursuits" are you referring to? The drug-dealers? If Reese were around, we would've seen ass-kicking; because he wasn't, that bit WAS an afterthought.
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who missed the part about what happened to the drug dealers.

This season there has been a lot less flashbacks about Finch and Reese. One shot episodes are nice but I really like arc episodes or even a few moments in a one shot episode that play into the arc. Hopefully we'll see more of this in the second half of the season.
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Fusco arrested the drug dealer. He told Finch he would. He then showed up at the train station and nodded to Finch as in "yes it's done". No, we didn't see it. Did they film it and not have room for it? I don't know. But I do know that if they did include it something else would have had to go. They only have 43 mins to tell the story. What would you have cut out to get in a scene where Fusco just sticks out a gun and says "you're under arrest?". We have seen him arrest people before. Do we need to see it to know it happened at the expense of everything else that was included in the episode last night. Personally I don't. Fusco saying to Finch "I'll take care of it" was enough for me.
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I was going to comment to say most of what you already said (less articulately of course)...so basically I AGREE!

(...there should be "agree" "disagree" buttons along with the "like"...that might be detrimental to commentator moral though; so there's that)
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^This
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Am I the only one who thought there could really be a hidden message in that page of pi digits ?
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Finch's phone number. His way of saying "Call me if you need any help." I'm sure we'll see more of Caleb in the future.
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I know story-wise Finch says his number is in there, but I wondered if the makers could have slipped something in, easter egg style, for those of their viewers with too much time on their hands.
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Agreed, the episode needed more Bear.
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The amount Bear is in an episode directly correlates with how badass the episode is.
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I agree with Tim. This season the writers seem intent on establishing Finch as a sort of "goodass" (for lack of better word) equal to Reese's badass persona. With all his syrupy courtship of "Grace" and the Les Mis-worthy speech and his increasingly outrageous computer skills, I expect them to licence Beyonce's "Halo" as his special theme. in the meantime, Carter, always a nebulous character in season 1, loses her moral center at the drop of a hat. I suspect Tim is right about the suits at the studio interfering.
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I didn't miss Reese one bit. Although the episode might have profited from some backstory/character development i found it to be thoroughly entertaining.
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I completely agree. Finch reflected a bit on how he's changed since he and Reese started working together, but there was nothing grounded in backstory to remind viewers just how far he has come. I also lament the lack of Bear, but I suppose he would have been out of place in the school halls where a majority of the episode took place. Bring back the backstories!
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Happy New year Tim... you almost sound chipper!!
FanPOI made me laugh, so i will suggest we call ourselves that than the current Irrelevant!!
While i did get to feel the Reese-void, i enjoyed the episode as whole. I also think the pace they are taking in revealing Finch's back-story is intentional. Besides we have seen his machine-aided courtship and subsequent "stalking" of Grace. Last night he admitted to the kid, that he walked away because he thought the world (read that "her World") will be better off without him only to find out otherwise. I call that back-story!.
Carter interrogating Reese..Wohoo!!! i mean, i am actually looking forward to seeing that!!.I cant imagine and the more i force myself to imagine the scenes....Well, it always seem to me like Carter is in awe of Reese..and NOW she has to spank him! (hey! Reese is the kind of guy who will "walk" around with a broken/sprained ankle saving people)
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