Person of Interest "Brotherhood" Review: The Streets Are Getting Real Again

Person of Interest S04E04: "Brotherhood"


Let's be honest, there's not a whole lot to discuss about "Brotherhood," a mostly by-the-numbers installment of Person of Interest that followed three strong outings to start the season. But the hour did introduce a new threat, which is necessary since Reese and Shaw keep shooting the old ones. Gotta keep the creep tank replenished, right? 

"Brotherhood" was a Reese-centric episode—bit it didn't just focus on any Reese, it focused on Cop Reese! And not just any Cop Reese, but Sensitive and Serious Cop Reese, who happens to be one of my least-favorite Reeses. I like my Reese silent, shooty, and sarcastic, but in "Brotherhood," he got himself tangled up in protecting a pair of kids from Armenian gangs and some hood rats. The two munchkins had stumbled upon half a million dollars in a duffle bag after a gang deal went sour, making them two of the most adorable targets in Manhattan. 

As the episode progressed, it laid on the schmaltz by slowly doling out the kids' backstory: They were in foster care because their mom was in prison on a weapons charge. But that wasn't heart-wrenching enough, so Person of Interest dug deeper. Ah, she went to jail because she took the heat for her son's gun. Oof. That would do it! And then the kids wanted to keep the money so they could hire a powerful attorney to work his magic in the legal system and bring her home. Aww! Reese fell for the kids pretty hard, as he's wont to do when it comes to sad stories of people in need. But overall, "Brotherhood" felt like a pretty standard episode of a typical CBS procedural, hitting all its marks with a somewhat predictable twist and a (temporary) happy ending. 


However, what "Brotherhood" did do well was what Person of Interest has a long history of doing well: deepening its universe with the unexpected addition of new adversaries. The Brotherhood—which made its debut in the Season 4 premiere as the gang in need of a closed phone network—isn't just a one-off gang, and we got our first hint of that when Link (Jamie Hector) returned as the representative of one of the parties interested in retrieving that duffel full of cash back. Though Link had the high profile (and The Wire background) to be the big cheese, the real mastermind was a man named Dominic. And just like what happened with the big Elias reveal in Season 1, Dominic was hiding in plain sight as the foot soldier who received a (now understandably) disproportionate amount of screen time when Shaw held him hostage. 

What surprises me is that the Brotherhood doesn't appear to be anything more than a well-organized street gang. They aren't cyber terrorists like Vigilance, they aren't a secret cabal of powerful old white dudes like Decima, they aren't even old-world gangsters like the countless groups of Eastern European cronies that pollute Manhattan. They're just some dudes rollin' in Escalades who exhibit a keen sense of patience and smarts. It's a surprising throwback to regular criminals, while the rest of the series is in the throes of technophobia and the above-my-pay-grade shadow organizations looking to control the entire world.

And in a way, the Brotherhood is even more chilling than Samaritan because they're real. They're analog in their recruiting. Consider the cyber scavenger hunt that Samaritan set up to bring in Claire and compare it to Dominic's plan to recruit the young boy Malcolm: Dominic saw a potential asset in Malcolm and decided to coordinate a release for Malcolm's mother and wait for the boy to find his way back to the Brotherhood. If a young hacker wants to play a game being run by an artificial intelligence as a way to find meaning in her life, then sure, that's television. But Dominic preying on the weak by putting them in his debt? That's REAL. I have enough trust in Person of Interest to expect great things from the Brotherhood. This could get very interesting.



NOTES OF INTEREST

– Can't spell D-E-A-D without DEA. Adios, two-timing DEA lady. What a chilling image for "Brotherhood" to end on!

– There was barely any humor in this episode. Thank God for Fusco, who showed up just in time to save Reese's ass. Reese: "Have you met my partner?" [Fusco pops up from behind and shoots two thugs.] Fusco: "Nice to meet you!" HAHAHAHAHA for days!

– Every time I've spoken to either Greg Plageman or Jonah Nolan, they've mentioned how they're both really influenced by The Wire, and that last scene with Link and Dominic riding in the car was as Wire-y as Person of Interest has ever been. What a fantastic scene.

– No Root this week, and I know a lot of you are upset about that, but I don't mind taking a little breather from the Machine and Samaritan, as long as Person of Interest uses the extra time to build up to something else. "Brotherhood" did that.

– And here's the .GIF of the episode: Bear after eating homework!



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Oct 26, 2014
I was saying back in season 3 that HR's demise left a void; there wasn't a relatable threat to contrast with AIs and shadowy cabals. Vigilance was that to an extent because Collier's motivation was personal, but The Brotherhood is the real deal. And of course Elias is poised for a comeback.
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Oct 24, 2014
They telegraphed who Dominic was. "They call me Mini." DoMINIc

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Oct 19, 2014

Great episode, but I agree is not the best like the other three, but is important for the season, brotherhood sounds like interesting and relevant new threat, I love how they reveal Mini is the big boss.
Brotherhood is the world after H.R., they are smart now, I think every threat from now on will be more dangerous than the previous one.
Tim, you forget to talk about Elias and Finch.
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Oct 19, 2014
I agree with everybody here agreeing that Dominic looking as the average person makes the perfect boss, as does Elias. They hide among the crowd in plain public. I think it was humor in this episode, but it was more subtle humor. The kid playing the big brother did a great job. Cool and soft. It made me think of how Reese may have been when he was a kid.
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Oct 19, 2014
Not to sound cold and heartless, but I'm glad they killed off the DEA snitch. I was going to rebel if they added one more lifeless, uncharismatic female who can't act to the show.
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Oct 17, 2014
Kind of disappointing. Not the theme of the episode itself - there has to be some less crucial case of the week stuff now and then. I just don't like it when POI is going for the obvious; it smells of lazy then.

We were told there was a snitch at DEA, and from that moment I hoped it wouldn't turn out to be Agent Lennox or her partner (I especially expected the latter). Alas, no such luck.
We were told about the elusive boss Dominic, and from that moment I hoped it wouldn't turn out to be someone we already got to see earlier: that is either Mini or Link. Once again, no such luck.

And while I can roll my eyes and accept Lennox as a snitch (given that she tried to fool both sides and get away with the money), Mini as Dominic is a harder sell. He is supposed to be smart, but there was nothing smart in personally assisting in the deal with the Armenians and losing two of his people in the process. He survived because what... luck again? The only smart thing he did was leading Shaw to a less important target just to get rid off her. But the rest just doesn't glue as well. The writers also got out of their way to establish the guy with a creed: "We all die in the end".
Makes me wonder whether The Brotherhood is meant to replace HR in a way.

Highlights of the episode: Reese was good, Shaw was good, Fusco was good, young Malcolm had a surprisingly strong screen presence (hope he doesn't end up on the wrong side), and Elias plus Finch shared some poignant scenes. Harold decided to trust him, but couldn't tell him everything directly with Samaritan listening in; and we could tell that indeed, the world has changed.
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Oct 19, 2014
Im not sure the episode needed to hide the snitch that much she pretty much said it to throw John off especially as he would be suspicious if the bad guys keep finding them. As for Dominic reveal, Its probably in keeping with the show, the best hiding place is in plain site, Much like the suitman family, Alias and root do.

His survival in the shoot out might be because of brains not just luck, even John has proved countless times how reading the situation and reacting quicker might save your life.

In essence I think this episode more about creating a more blood thirst Alias as the real Alias is almost part of the Suitman Family, albeit only in so much as they need each other.
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Oct 17, 2014
It was funny seeing Reese getting hustled by that little girl and Mini is the elusive Dominic! didn't see that coming
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Oct 17, 2014
I don't know but I think the actors playing Link and Dominic should've switch places .I find Link more charismatic and intimidating than Dominic but may be that's the whole idea having an ordinary looking guy play the big boss to give the surprise more impact, although in case of Elias the choice was much more satisfactory, he is the real deal and can't wait to see Elias trade blows with both The Brotherhood and Samaritan
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Oct 16, 2014
It was like my brother Bruce - because He's Batman!
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Oct 16, 2014
I, like others, am a little surprised by Tim not mentioning Elias in his review. Great Elias/Finch scenes. I would love to see more of Elias because I really like Enrico Colantoni, but maybe that's too much of a good thing. Maybe less is more.

Finch always calling John "Detective" brings to mind his interactions with Carter.

You may not prefer the kinder/gentler John, but he does have a nice smile.
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Oct 16, 2014
Bit of a homhum episode agree with Tim above regarding the kids are we lead to believe two kids turn up in posh stores with a bag full of cash does'nt arouse supscion where's social services ? At least the Brotherhood story offered competition for samartian and our heroes , also no Root in this episode ?
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Oct 16, 2014
I did not see Dominic as your average street thug gang boss. He reminded me a great deal of Elias. His long reach was very invasive.....casually ordering Linc to spring the mother & make sure credit comes back to him/them. Elias had people at his beck&call in the prison at Rikers, police department, etc. Apparently so does Dominic. Elias is well educated and I think we will find that Dominic is also. Remember.............appearances are deceiving, as the eppys' last scene showed us. Dominic and the Brotherhood are a worthy adversary for Team Machine.
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Oct 16, 2014
I know it sound like a cliche but it´s the truth: I am here for the dog :)
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Oct 16, 2014
Decent, if not a great, episode. The vacuum for street level thugs since HR fell was sure to be mined and The Brotherhood, for now, is that threat. The Brotherhood isn't immediately as compelling as a clandestine highly organized and placed public officials on the take group, but maybe it will get better. This episode served a transitional situation introducing a new threat and breaking from Sumaritan/Machine based storylines. OK, but not great.
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Oct 16, 2014
let me get this straight,, according to the reviews/comments

the team is now being chased by another gang led by a black guy (HR, then Vigilance and now the brotherhood(?) a gang of black guys called the BROTHER hood, wow original

the black guy pulled a hide in plain sight trick like Elias.Oh, wait. he's black and Elias is white, "big difference" right?

once again the ever present first on the scene, knows everything agent who says there is a mole is the mole.


pull out scripts from seasons 1-3, move a few things around and bingo a "new" script for season four.

tell me again why I am supposed to watch a show down more than 50% in ratings over the last two years.

Man, I miss the old show :(
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Oct 16, 2014
Why would ratings affect whether you watch a show? Why are you basing your evaluation on comments rather than the show itself? Weird.
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Oct 16, 2014
Because he claims not to even watch the show, yet shows up multiple times on every thread to blabber on with his usual diatribe. It's a sad little vendetta that he's had ever since Carters Character got killed off. He only read the review so he could say something besides the usual "blah blah ratings down, blah blah I hate Root, blah blah blah".
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Oct 17, 2014
Carter was getting old. This new street gang feels too small time. They needs to go back toward the heroes being hunted theme.
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Oct 16, 2014
Not got season 4 here in the UK yet (hell not even had season 3).

The Brotherhood is taking over from HR then as the organised crime element.

Elias has always been a 50:50, an old school gangster with rules and respect so he's slow evolved into more of an ally than an adversary.

The POI cake mix - 2parts mythology 1part street crime 1 part kneecaps 1part Bear with a sprinkle of sexy (Shaw/Root/Zoe). Bake for an hour, serve and enjoy.
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Oct 25, 2014
Strange that every woman is sexy but Carter according to you.
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Oct 16, 2014
I am upset they didn't suspect Mini=DoMINIc.
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Oct 16, 2014
Wow...I feel stupid!
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Oct 20, 2014
Me too, especially since it would be "Mini-Doc," on a show about two feuding computers....
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Oct 16, 2014
What makes it great is that even when when it does an, almost, stand-alone, it's still a better procedural than anything else out there.

As smart at the Brotherhood appear to be, and their recruitment strategy makes that very clear; the DEAd lady seems an awful waste of a valuable asset.

I'm as crazy about Root as anyone, but sometimes absence makes the heart grow fonder. Not everybody has to be on screen every week. In fact it works better when they're not.
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Oct 16, 2014
DEA lady just took off with half a illion of their money. Not something any gang can tolerate.

As for Root, I like how she is only one we don't know what her job is and just pops up when needed, delivers her instructions, inspirational speech or drags team in some unclear mission. Deus ex Machina (God from The Machine, get it? Huh? OK, I'll shut up.....). And honestly with so many primary characters it's getting crowded.
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Oct 16, 2014
I really wanted to see Reese get info out of that sassy gang of little girls by playing hop-scotch or double-dutch. Outtakes, please.

Well I figured DEA Lady was either the mole or was going to get shot. I was not expecting to be right on both counts! Shot in the head in mid babble. Damn. I thought she would go out heroically saving the kids or something, but this way was a whole lot more interesting.

Probably Mole DEA Lady:
Do you know what the DEA is?
Cute Little Foster Moppet: We got TV
So terrible, yet so hilarious.

Dominic scared me in the big reveal. I thought he was going to be the underling that starts the unraveling of The Brotherhood after his series of unfortunate events with Shaw and taking issue with his crew abandoning him, but nope. Another genius supervillian on the scene. I wonder if Samaritan would appeal to him or repulse him?

Elias is interesting, but he is still the devil. I'm waiting for the double/triple cross from him. He has been accumlating a lot of wealth and intel off of his "friendship" with Team Machine. Much of which Team Machine has been too preoccupied to notice.

The ep was schmaltzy, but it did get a couple genuine smiles out of Reese/Jim. So if they want to throw a few babies at Team Machine once a season to garner that reaction, I'm fine with it. I still get verklempt when I think of Reese uttering that he would like a child, maybe children, some day, in Baby Blue and Finch shooting the prospect down.
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Oct 16, 2014
Good episode. I missed seeing Root. Elias had some good screen time. I hope they are building to an Elias-centric episode. I do like Enrico in this role. I admit I did not like him in Just Shoot Me. I cringed when I saw his name in the credits way back when. Anyway, he is doing so well with the Elias character. I agree with Tim that this is not my favorite Reese. That was why I only give this episode a B.

Also, it was obvious to me anyway, that Mini was Dominic. I am surprised that the team did not consider that. Root would have. And of course Bear knew.
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Oct 16, 2014
Four episodes in, and I can already foresee this becoming my favorite season so far. That's not just because of how good these episodes have been (though they have been really good for the most part). I've just love the storylines they've been building up.

So, not only do we get a continuation of the Samaritan storyline they've set up since last season, they're using the characters' down-time in order to bring back the more street-level crime organizations that the series started off with, and doing so in a big way. I've loved the introduction of the Brotherhood in the first few episodes. Like you said in your review, it does feel a lot like The Wire (albeit more like The Wire for action fans), which is fitting considering Jamie Hector's role. And of course, this also allows Elias to have a more active role than he's had in quite some time, which is definitely a good thing.

As for the episode itself, I can't say the person of interest case was one of my favorites, but I definitely liked it more than you seemed to, and I liked the episode more than last week's episode.
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Oct 16, 2014
I really enjoyed the episode and the whole street level thing. The danger the kids were in, felt palpable. I was really worried sick for them. But the last scene with Dominic and his henchman( awesomely done ) was kinda depressing to think that smart kid may end up inevitably in a life of crime!
I did get the impression when Dominic was talking with Shaw in the basement that he was too articulate to be just a street thug but the reveal was unexpected.
The scene with Dominic and Shaw for me was the best in the episode. Am sure Shaw couldn't have failed to notice she was also in the presence of killer, loved her facial expression in that scene .
Am not surprised Elias has noticed something is wrong. I guess you don't get to be a crime lord without some kinda of sixth sense for danger.
I always wonder what Elias thinks of the whole gang running around NYC saving people outside the law. I almost get the impression he finds them naive and harmless and one day he'll revert back to type when it suits him.
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Oct 16, 2014
I think Elias and Our Gang have a very solid 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend' thing going. If Elias knew about Samaritan, he'd be glad to assist in taking it down. Samaritan is bad for his business. But if he found out about the Machine, well, that he'd want for himself. If Finch can figure out a way to clue Elias in on Samaritan without revealing the Machine, Elias would be one heckuva ally.
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Oct 17, 2014
You can't show Elias all the cards because he too chips already that he's dying to cash in.
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Oct 16, 2014
I think it's more of a "stay out of my way and I'll stay out of yours" sprinkled with ocassional cooperation and showing of mutual respect. I don't think they are actually friends but respect each other enough to work out something everybody can live with.
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Oct 17, 2014
He's been doing too many favors and he is going to comprise the group and Finch will hate every minute of it.
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Oct 16, 2014
I'm not sure, but I'm thinking the Brotherhood will prove to be a bigger threat than it looks like on the surface because they're out there on the streets, incognito - which is just where our intrepid heroes spend a lot of their time. And now they have day jobs, home addresses (I assume), habits - they're vulnerable in a way they never were before, especially highly visible Reese.

So-so episode otherwise, except for one thing:
Elias.
Of course he would be the one to figure out something's up. And because of the strange and wonderful relationship between him and Finch, we got the lovely little scenes between them, with Finch giving our favourite, semi-civilized bad-guy some helpful tips on how to stay hidden and alive in the post-cyperpocalypse world.
Great stuff.
Hope they find a way to pick up their chess games again. :D
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Oct 16, 2014
I found myself bored with this episode. Only the revelation of who Dominic was gave it some interest at the end. It is kind of fun to have our heroes in the dark and searching for him, when Shaw had him all along.
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Oct 15, 2014
Ii's time the producers made their mind up over Shahi gave up watching the cast of The Expendables movies and started her talking in the natural voice she had as herself, the doctor, or, a Reese clone or, a dead-nerved sociopath and/or femme fatale that's believable. The that guy wolf-whistled and I actually used them for it line lost me - yet again.
I enjoy this show on many levels but Shahi's continuance fucks me off and I guess I have to live with it or change channel as she's clearly not going.
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Oct 15, 2014
Question - What was up with the lawyer-card Reese gave to the kid in the end.
Leslie Kreel, but I looked it up, thinking it was a previous POI that would gladly help Reese out, like Zoe, Elias and Miles for example.
However, I couldn't find a match. It felt like they really showed the card for a reason, I thought it was a call back that I just couldn't remember.
So, does anyone know - am I missing something obvious here?
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Oct 15, 2014
I was wondering the same thing. It seemed very deliberate.
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Oct 15, 2014
Like most of POI this season IMO this was just OK. Was a fun ep - kind of like Burn Notice but not as funny. 7.5/10.
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Oct 15, 2014
The scenes with Finch and Elias were classic, and the last scene in the car was very well done, as for the rest I'll just agree with others who have pointed out that even when it's not at it's jaw dropping best, POI is still better than most shows out there.
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Oct 15, 2014
So Elias can just sense that something is wrong with the world? I found that part hard to believe as there's absolutely no way for him to understand that something has changed.
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Oct 15, 2014
The actions and behaviour of the Team is probably what tipped him of, and that made him pay attention to the world in a different way than he had before.
That's why he said - Not just the way they operate, but something else too.
Elias is a smart man, and he has ears everywhere, so he knows What's going on, but not Why(For example last weeks "Game" that I'm sure he was aware off)
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Oct 15, 2014
With every procedural episode POI churns out, a bit of my faith in the show dies, and yet I still hope for miniscule developments in the machine-samaritan story. And then there it happened, in plain sight, giving me more than I'd expected.

Finch's initial subway conversation with Elias ended in ambiguity and disappointment...until Elias was handed the 'Invisible Man' book with Finch clearly stating that 'the world has changed' (talk about being thrown a bone).

Elias will undoubtedly understand how significant this information is and how Harold just became his biggest friend...but now I wonder:
1. Is Finch slowly stepping down from his 'holier than thou' modus operandi by entrusting Elias?
2. Will Finch step over his thick moral boundaries(limitations), knowing that knee-capping those involved with Samaritan will not win the war?

Violence is bad, I know, but I'm hoping to see 'the team' and Elias' organization work together to take down the greater evil with whatever means necessary; ya gotta spend money to make money - money meaning blood.

*On a side note; It was actually pretty awesome seeing some of 'the Wire' quality criminals in POI as opposed to the usual clowns with guns, and Fusco is actually becoming badass - I don't think the brotherhood will be a problem though.
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Oct 16, 2014
I certainly hope so, on both points. Finch's "Jiminy Cricket" moments are the only thing about this show that can annoy me from time to time. I just keep trusting that the writers will have Finch "get over himself" soon.
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Oct 17, 2014
It might take the whole season.
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Oct 15, 2014
Color me red with embarrassment--I figured the big twist on Dominic would be that he is Elias, since Elias had warned Reese to not cross Dominic, to which Reese had given the same response he always used to give when Elias kept advising him to stop messing with his operations.

Oh well, I guess the baddie pool was getting a bit thinner after Hersh and Collier bit it at the end of S3. Now we have Samaritan's blonde Terminator in heels and the Brotherhood's Dominic.

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Oct 16, 2014
I had been hoping that Dominic was actually the DEA agent, since she made clear at the beginning that Dominic was a man, they spent so much time making her seem credible even likeable and added a bit of chemistry between her and Reese. I figured she wasn't as she seemed and would have liked her to have been more than disposable.
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Oct 17, 2014
Me too. Dominic just feels like an HR retooled plot line.
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Oct 15, 2014
Heavy Wire atmosphere, I love it!!! And that dark finale was great, that's the POI I like. This season villains are so intriguing and I agree with most comments: they do feel real and they're really well written.

Such a promising row of episodes, I'm enjoying POI immensely!

I'm still not used to the fact that they want us to believe Shaw can plant a bug on Reese without him noticing, but hey, I won't whine about it :D
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Oct 15, 2014
Shaw just said that she hadn't been caught yet. Reese may know, but just didn't say anything.
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Oct 15, 2014
I didn't like much. But I guess it is Starr of a storyline.
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Oct 15, 2014
Start*
p.s- I love Elias.
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Oct 15, 2014
The emergence of The Brotherhood makes me wonder a few things, mostly about how the situation will affect Elias

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Oct 15, 2014
Yep, same here--just curious if you had the same thought as I did prior to this one (see above).
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Oct 16, 2014
No - I think Dominic may kill Elias at some point.
Elias does have a bond with Reese and Finch, but he hasn't been used too much - which could mean he dies to make Dominic seem a bigger villain.

Or.

As we now have 2 criminal gangs, one could side with the machine while the other works for Samaritan
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Oct 17, 2014
Elias looks posed to cash in those chips he's collecting.
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Oct 16, 2014
Enrico Colantoni does have a new job over on The Mysteries of Laura--let's hope that doesn't follow the trend of when Annie Parisse (Stanton) and Michael Kelly (Snow) got other gigs. (Maybe that show will tank, although it doesn't look likes it's being pulled this year.)

Whatever happens, I predict Scarface will not be around much longer.

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Oct 16, 2014
I like Scarface. One of those background characters that just pop out somehow. Brutal but completly loyal.

If he goes I hope it's in some totaly bad ass way, like Hershinator
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Oct 16, 2014
I believe I read in Tim's review of that show that his character was killed off in the premiere. He sounded quite relieved :). So maybe that means he'll be more involved in POI this
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Oct 15, 2014
From the start is was obvious that one of the two DEA agents was the leak. At first I thought it was her partner and she would indeed be a character we would see again. But as the episode continued, she was so much involved and the partner wasn't that I had to admit I had been fooled the first minutes.

As Tim said, that last scene and the way they disposed of the lady was just out of a The Wire episode. Classic!
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Oct 15, 2014
Loved seeing Elias again and the fact that Harold respected the help Elias has given (over time) enough to vaguely warn him that the world has changed and not for the better.
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Oct 16, 2014
I would love to see Kristen Bell guest star in an episode. That could be fun.

I wonder if she'd be willing?
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Oct 15, 2014
that was not much of a review

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Oct 15, 2014
not much of an ep either.. i enjoyed it but in the history of POI eps this one fell squarely in the "meh" category for me..
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Oct 17, 2014
The DEA character was flushed with the episode.
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Oct 15, 2014
Bear's GIF shows: He is the king of his castle.
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Oct 16, 2014
And that is one gargantuan dog bed. He's a Mal, not a Dane!
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Oct 15, 2014
You wouldn't think that a dog who was so well trained would do something like that, but it was hilarious.
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Oct 16, 2014
Do you remember how he got his name? ;)
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Oct 16, 2014
Maybe Finch was so bored with the papers he told Bear to tear them to pieces. He is well trainmed as you say.
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Oct 17, 2014
Class the dog ate your homework!
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Oct 17, 2014
It it that classic variation on the student who said to the lecturer: "The dog ate my paper".
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Oct 15, 2014
your assessment of the gang leadership is right on target - many violent street gangs are metamorphosing into organized-crime-like sophisticated criminal enterprises.
https://faculty.unlv.edu/mccorkle/www/The Evolution of Street Gangs.pdf

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Oct 15, 2014
I think that is what made me uncomfortable, the Brotherhood is real. And its almost real in a way that HR was and wasn't. Like the whole thing was both scary as it created a real tangible threat, but also seemed like such a canned movie trope that you weren't freaked out by it. The Brotherhood and the way that Dominic and Linc talked, I almost sort of see a dynamic like Reese and Kara used to have. I guess that means there is hope for Linc.

And of course there is the seeming partnering up with Elias that is making me concerned to (and you suppose that is his day daily office hours, riding the subway at a certain time between certain stops?)
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Oct 15, 2014
There's a report from several years ago about gang members joining the service to avoid jail time, serving overseas, and then using the newly acquired skills in criminal enterprises. There was a gang member who used clearing techniques to rob a convenience store and then take on the police when they arrived. He had full military gear with him.
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Oct 16, 2014
Interesting which makes the Brotherhood just that much more legitimate whereas HR always was a little cartoonish.
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Oct 15, 2014
I'm surprised that Tim didn't mention the scenes between Harold and Elias. Scenes between those two are always awesome, and these showed Elias' involvement taking off in a whole new interesting direction.
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Oct 15, 2014
Took me a while but since his interactions with Jocelyn I just love Elias! Great scenes once again!
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Oct 15, 2014
YA, thanks for the gif Tim.
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Oct 15, 2014
It was good. Both of the reveals were kind of apparent from the start. The lame one died, which is good. I am looking forward to know more about Dominic, he has to have some sort of background for as tech savvy as he is.
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Oct 15, 2014
the show is so awesome it hit a new series low

and the more they show acker/root the further the ratings fall

I would say the two go together and that the show has problems. no? going from a 2.8 demo to a 1.5 is usually NOT the sign of a healthy show.
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Oct 28, 2014
Connection between ratings and share of Amy Acker presence is purely subjective. If you don't like her - it's your choice, but don't manipulate here. Root is a core highlight of the show for lots of people, whom I personally know.
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Oct 15, 2014
Billy, Billy, Billy, get a life already will you, normal people don't spend time at the websites of shows that they claim to hate and not watch. I ALMOST feel bad for you, maybe you should find a hobby, go to your local bingo hall maybe, or you could go hang out and post on the "Once Upon a Time" website, I hear they're doing Frozen now, those fans should be right on your level. You're just embarrassing yourself by saying the same thing over and over here.
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Oct 16, 2014
Hey, no need for that kind of language. :&( I'm watching OUAT and post on their board but there is no need to say Billy is like me! ;)
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Oct 15, 2014
I wonder if this pending review will fall off the main page before the review is "up"?
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Oct 15, 2014
Never, it's not a (featured) community post :-)
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Oct 15, 2014
Here is a weird thing:
In the intro, we see clips from previous episodes, including:
One where we see the brotherhood 'wanting the network up and running' and one where Reese is talking to Elias.

Both clips show evidence that Samaritan was watching and listening (data, graphs, overlays, etc).

A: Samaritan may be clued into the existence of the alternate network, right?

B: How did Samaritan watch and listen in on Reese and Elias? Elias' hideout seems pretty secluded and surveillance proof, right?
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Oct 16, 2014
I didn't think those shots were generated by Samaritan. Given the layout and type I thought they were generated by the Machine, which already knows about the things mentioned and has means to listen in/watch. This is the case it gave to the team, remember.

When surveillance footage is incorporated by Samaritan the screen looks different.
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Oct 15, 2014
(the footage of Reese and Elias shows evidence of at least 2 security cameras, but would Elias really have cameras pointed straight at his face in his favourite hideout? Who put them there and why has no one found them and taken them down?)
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Oct 15, 2014
...or are we just witnessing a show-runner/continuity glitch?
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Oct 15, 2014
Dominic is no Collier and that makes me sad.
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Oct 15, 2014
Wow, that ended on a dark note! Everyone got played by a new player!

So Dominic pulled an 'Elias', eh? (remember when we first met Elias in season 1) He went undercover and risked his life, just to get to know his enemies. Bold and intelligent. Sounds like a Dominic is a match for Elias.

oh, btw: YES! Elias! This show needs more Elias! (and Bear!)

Great line: It's a tricky business, playing a game of which you are unsure of the pieces.

I wonder when our team will clue in Elias (or if).

Within 4 episodes of season 4, this show is right back on track, but with a different colored background story. I think the writers did that well.
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Oct 16, 2014
Elias doesn't really need to know. Samaritan ignores anything that is "normal" criminal behaviorm, so it's concerns would never affect his business.

He's genius level and probably intrigued, but really it's not like what Samaritan does would affect him one way or the other.
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Oct 15, 2014
"It's a tricky business, playing a game of which you are unsure of the pieces."
SoD Rumsfield called that unknown unknowns.
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Oct 15, 2014
Ok this time I KNOW saw triangle s and circles in our machine's view, which makes me super excited
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