Reign "Long Live the King" Review: I Found a Whistle

Reign S01E21: "Long Live the King"


It is that very special time of year at Valois Court where everyone is wearing fur. Fur on capes, in Kenna’s case fur under capes—this literally hot look made me do a double take:


Despite what looked like freezing cold weather, the Court opened this second-to-last episode of Reign's first season with a round of huzzahs for Frances, returning triumphant after taking back Calais from the English usurpers! Frances made a beeline for bedtime with Mary, but since nothing makes a mad king crave war more than a victory, Henry decided there was no time like the present to announce his intentions of invading England and claiming the throne—which had just cooled off after the death of Mary Tudor—for Mary Stuart. Obvs Mary was like “Wh-wh-what?!”


Mary basically just wants a couple days to sleep in. Just a few late mornings snuggling with Frances after his grueling campaign and several months apart, instead setting out on crusade that will make her the target of the world's most formidable navy. Is that so much to ask?! Yes, apparently. Uncle de Guise confronted Mary with her “Congratulations on your promotion!” letter to Elizabeth, and I was like, “Bitch, are you serious? The only reason they keep you around here is to threaten England.” Which, you know, I could have told Mary as much. No need to go running up to high-five England on its cool new queen when the country spent the last decade trying to force an engagement on you via burning down Edinburgh. Be a little coy! Be a little above it all. You reach out to high-five them, they will leave you hanging.




Meanwhile Bash had found an adorable boy and an earsplitting whistle in the Blood Wood, where he continued to search for the beast or man called the Darkness. He and Nostradamus tried to get some information out of the boy by yelling things at him louder and louder, and Kenna was like, “Are you kidding me?!” and totally channeled Jessica Chastain in Tree of Life, gently cuddling the youngster and offering her sympathy. Love you, Kenna.



Bash will keep up his efforts to plumb the Dark Woods’ secrets with Nostradamus at his side next week, while Kenna and adorable pagan urchin Pascal wait for Bash to return home. Yes, Kenna is like sort of adopting Pascal, but wait until Pascal tells her he witnessed Bash killing a man in the Blood Wood! Possibly in the form of a highly lyrical poem!

Meanwhile Lola learned that her beloved hubs Lord Julien was not Lord Julien at all! Like a protean Mr. Ripley, her husband—real name Remy—had been a personal secretary to Lord Julien, who died in a fire while abroad from his native Hungary. Remy was mistaken for Lord Julien by magistrates and just kind of rolled with it, enjoying the care packages from Lord Julien’s folks and using his name at court to get to Lola’s dowry. What a good old-fashioned rogue! But with the actual Lord Julien’s uncle paying them a call, Remy had to convince Lola to play along with his con in front of the guest, Fronch farce style.





They almost got away with it, too, until the uncle noticed that Remy was wearing Lord Julien’s signet ring, which was like the 16th-century equivalent of casually signing into someone else’s smartphone. Uncle wanted some answers and he wanted them now! Luckily after a brief scuffle he managed to impale the top of his spine on the handy spike over the fireplace. 





To cover up the murder, they decided to burn the whole house down before the servants got back, pretend it was an accident where everyone died, and then Lola could live out her days as a respectable widow. With a baby who looks like the most famous guy in the land. LOL.

Once Catherine found out that King Henry was arranging a full-scale attack on England by the end of the week, she was like, “I’m done. Let’s kill him.” She didn’t want to involve Frances in the plot, but told Mary that “as queens” they could save thousands of lives by making the executive decision to take a rambling maniac out of play. It was actually a good call; King Henry needed to be as gracefully toppled as possible, despite Frances’s efforts to chat him back to sanity.





Mary and Catherine decided to poison King Henry’s communion wafers, but then Frances was like, “He had a lucid moment doooon’t kiiiiill hiiiim!” and so they backpedaled on their plan. And yet a hired mercenary tried to kill him anyway! Wh-wh-what?! That’s right, blame that guy de Guise, who had warned Henry that a plot to take his life was afoot and wanted to seem all Miss Cleo about it by hiring a mercenary to try and kill him. Henry handily dispatched the mercenary with a few crushing skull-thwacks, and Catherine was like, “Well, shit. We missed our window.” And Frances was FURIOUS at Mary for colluding with Catherine, despite it being easily the best part of the episode.





See the thing is, as much as Frances claims that even royals must take risks for those they love, he’s confusing the people he loves with the people Mary loves. Nobody BUT him loves King Henry right now, and on top of that, I don’t remember seeing him raise a finger to help save Mary’s mother when murder was a certainty. In fact, he actively prevented Mary from taking the risk of racing to her mother’s side during her time of need. I know his dad told him that hilarious story about the time he went to hug his dad when his dad was being released from being a Spanish hostage but his dad ran right past him and the Spanish dudes kidnapped him and beat him for three years; you can feel close to someone after sharing a hearty chuckle at such an image. But he really should've just let Mary and Catherine wreak the trouble they were born to wreak, because now King Henry’s madness is focusing on Frances, and he’s decided to kill Frances and wed Mary. And honestly with the fantastic dress Mary was wearing this episode, who can blame him?


Next week's season finale promises a few threads: Nostradamus and Bash being all buddy-buddy against the darkness, Lola pregnant as heck and probably giving birth, Greer and Leith hopefully crossing paths, and Frances learning just how warped his dad is. And obviously, beautiful gowns, many of them. 


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... Should Lola have found a way to stay with Remy, or was there no way to trust him?

... Pascal’s poetry recital: cute or super creepy?

... Mary and Catherine as international assassins for hire: Would you watch that spin-off?

... Lay down your predictions for the finale!

... A whistle?!


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May 17, 2015
I'm surprised that Lily didn't mention the delicious SQUELCH of Henry pulling the tricking assassin's TOOTH OUT OF HIS FIST after that brutal beating.
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Feb 18, 2015
I still don't understand why Lord Julian a.k.a Remy decided to cancel his engagement with Greer for not wanting any "scandal" around his wife when he was planning on stealing her dowry and skipping town..
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May 12, 2014
OK how much time is supposed to have passed since Francis was away? Months? Because there is still snow on the ground since The Wedding! This is beyond ridiculous now! How many months of winter are we supposed to think there are in France with all these time jumps the writers keep throwing in there?! Maybe they should stop filming in Canada next season.
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May 12, 2014
... Remy was there for filler let's be real Lola's baby is there to bring troubleeee

... Pascal’s poetry recital super creepy
... Mary and Catherine as international assassins for hire: Would you watch that spin-off? OMG I would watch that spin off in a heartbeat!
... Ok... so Henry will end up dead while Nostradamus has a huge vision of Fancis death and Lola will spend like ten minutes of the episode screaming and the child would be a boy, and Greer will cheat on Castleroy the nicest Lord ever and Kenna well she will foun out that dear Bash is a pagan murderer.

... Soo the darkness inspires fear with a whistle? really?
... Loved Marys dress couldn't take my eyes of it.
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May 12, 2014
Lol of course, Lola's baby will bring trouble! I had a feeling things wouldn't go too smoothly and Francis would find out in the finale probably. Didn't expect Julien/Remy to be out of the picture though.
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May 11, 2014
Best part of the episode was Francis coming home to Mary.
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May 10, 2014
P.S. Forgot to thank Lily, I can count on you to make me laugh so hard I have tears; your spoofs enhance rather than deride, so cool.

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May 10, 2014
For some reason I think Henry's death will be one of the things there will be least license taken with. They teased us with Bash and Mary, but Francis and Mary marry (that was hard to type), with Bash at consummation as a dramatic addition. They tease us with the prospect of Henry getting offed by pragmatic insiders but there's a joust in the preview. Maybe the Wiki death of infection from jousting wounds will get helped along by Catherine and her special ointments. It would be very sad as she has truly loved Henry and she will miss him as much as we fans will even though we all know he has to die. Catherine has been very unselfish in plotting H's demise as being Mom is much less fun than being queen. But I am sure she will make the transition in a way that delights the audience!
Makes sense to start season 2 with Francis as new king.
There are quite a few possible cliffhangers - Bash/Kenna could be in great peril from the Darkness or Pascal, drama re Lola's delivery (does the Darkness like babies?), I expected Leith's return this week so if they've left it for the finale it's probably pretty juicy. I don't know what would make a cliffhanger for Mary and Francis as Henry's death will have such a huge impact in and of itself. And where's Clarissa? Maybe a cliffhanger will be everyone suspecting everyone else of doctoring Henry's wounds. I can hardly wait except that after it the season will be over.
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May 10, 2014
That kid was creepy and I have a bad bad feeling in the pit of my stomach he's sent bash to his doom. What a fantastic episode Mary and Catherine should be best friends and start a assassination agency :) I swear Francis has double standards how can he be angry at Mary for lying to him when he has locked her in a tower, hijacked her army meant to save her mother, he needs to take a beat. Ok Henry my crazy wakadoddle king you are nuts and need to go to sleep, kill Francis and marry Mary ha hah good luck with that.
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May 10, 2014
Over the past few weeks I've been suffering from Once Upon A Time withdrawal symptoms. Waiting in suspense for the next episode was torture. So I decided to do something about it... my plan was to slowly wean myself off it by finding a new show that I would enjoy watching and that would make the long wait for next week and then next season more bearable.

I discovered Reign.

Obviously it was a stupid plan to begin with. Typical addict, I just replaced one fix with another and have binge watched all of season 1 in the past 10 days.

Lily, love your reviews as always. Can't tell you how pleased I was to find that you also did this one as well as Once. Your reviews make the world a happier place, and that is awesome
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May 11, 2014
You picked an excellent show to binge on. Reign is one of the best new shows this year.
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May 12, 2014
I agree! I stumbled across the pilot and thought I'd give it a shot and it's the only must-see show I actually watch live!
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May 10, 2014
This episode was fantastic with amazing storylines. Mary & the queen colluding shows they have much in common with their scheme to kill the king reminiscent of two partners solving a problem, Francis still shows his naivety to be able to act when necessary as must kings do.

I am enjoying Henry's paranoia leading to the finale as it will finally force Francis to act with his life on the line.

Predictions for the Finale
Francis to kill the king
Lola's baby secret to be discovered by the Queen or Francis
Bash to be captured by the darkness
Leith to Reunite with Greer
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May 11, 2014
I also think Francis will be the one to kill the king thus slaughtering his "innocence" especially with all the spare Francis talk we heard this week.

Bash will kill the Darkness when it threatens Kenna and it will stir the darkness inside of him

Lola's baby will be in jeopardy prompting Mary to tell Francis the truth

Leith will come back with his new station and Greer will be tempted but will still choose Peppercorn
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May 12, 2014
I agree about Francis killing the King (as I predicted further down) during the jousting tournament. While he's had to kill before, it's not the same as killing your own father and the King of France. I thought the episode title referred to that as well.

I have a sneaky suspicion that Mary may end up pregnant as well and eventually miscarry, maybe not by the finale though. *Spoiler* IRL she was supposed to have started wearing maternity dresses and then stopped but nothing was ever confirmed.
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May 10, 2014
I find it really interesting how you can see the way that Henry and Catherine's marriage must have eroded through Mary and Francis' marriage. It's pretty shocking to first hear that they started off loving each other, but then you look at how quickly Mary and Francis have started lying to and betraying each other after only, what, a few months of marriage? It's not a stretch to believe that Mary and Francis could end up the same way in thirty or so years (If Francis didn't die).
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May 10, 2014
It's even harder for Francis and Mary because Mary is the Queen of Scotland and that's her priority whereas Francis has to look out for France. Henry and Catherine didn't have to worry about two nations.
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May 10, 2014
Wow, the debates are strong with this one. Maybe because we're so close to the end of the season. I just want to pose this question: Why are there so many posts about Francis dying in the 2nd season?! No Francis means no France, no Queen Catherine, no Nostradamus, and potentially more. I think we're rushing a bit here. If Reign gets renewed (let's say it gets a season 3, which means almost certainly it will get a season 4), then maybe I can see them killing Francis off in the middle of season 4 or at the end. But earlier than that just would defeat the original premise of the show which was Mary's teen years at French court.
Also, completely unrelated note, did you all know that Henry had an affair with Mary's grandfather's (Mary's dad's father) illegitimate daughter, Lady Jane Stewart? So that would be Mary's aunt, who accompanied the five year old Mary Stuart to France. Jane and Henry had a son around little Henry's age. People did sleep around at court.
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May 10, 2014
I think they are going to kill Francis in the second season only because the writers have been rushing through the timeline during season 1. If Heart of Dixie got renewed with their low ratings, I can definitely see Reign getting a third season should the ratings stay consistent next season.
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May 10, 2014
I think Pascel will hurt Kenna and Bash will end up saving Winchester style.
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May 10, 2014
There's something about that child.
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May 10, 2014
Lily, first of all I love your recaps! They are hilarious, but the show is definitely getting darker. No more parties every episode.

Predictions: The next episode is titled Slaughter of Innocence. Francis’ innocence will definitely be disabused by the finale of season 1. I’m also predicting at least two deaths, likely more – but who you ask?

Lola, who was big as a house in the last episode, will give birth to twins, James and Ann. Death number one, Lola will die during childbirth, which is very sad. Mary will be so distraught that she will confess to Francis that he is the father and convince him that they need to care for the kids. This will tie into the Nostradamus prediction of Francis’ death scene where Mary and Francis discuss the care of two children.

Henry will enlist the aid of the Duke of Guise in his plan to kill Francis and wed Mary. I think the Duke will propose the joisting tournament and convince Henry to challenge Francis to a friendly joust as a means of killing Francis. Henry will buy it, he thinks he is invincible. However, I think the Duke will prove loyal to Francis and tell him what is planned. Francis will go ahead with the joust, but will injure Henry in the process.

Ultimately Henry will succumb to his injuries, leaving Francis emotionally scarred with guilt. Will Henry die in this episode or linger on into season 2 as a cliff hanger? The writers will probably just go for it; everyone knows Henry’s days are numbered so why drag it out. In reality Henry may actually die from being poisoned by Catherine and/or the Duke of Guise, but Francis won’t know that.

Is it possible that The Darkness, i.e. Sharp Tooth guy is actually Henry’s older brother (imaginary tennis ghost), who supposedly was murdered by Henry but instead escaped into the forest to exact his revenge as a sociopathic lunatic? Technically The Darkness would be the legitimate King of France – that would be really whacky even for Reign - just a thought.

Clarissa will definitely make an appearance, allied with The Darkness guy. I’m predicting Bash will kill The Darkness saving the day (hooray!), but Clarissa will escape and vow revenge. Clarissa is a survivor, much like her mother.

Returning home to Kenna victorious, Bash will discover the darkness has entered their home with the Damian-like Pascal character – shocking scene of gruesome slaughter of small animals strung up and bled out. Pascal will definitely drive a wedge in the happy union of Kennash in season 2.

Leith will make an appearance and apprise Greer of his rise in fortune, leaving her in a quandary and setting up the love triangle with Castleroy for season 2.

The writers will likely throw some unexpected stuff at us if there is enough time. They are a creative bunch. I’m predicting we will get a scene with the newly crowned Queen Elizabeth in England in cahoots with Mary’s half-brother. Marie de Guise could be a goner as well, done in by the plotting of half-brother and Elizabeth in retaliation for the actions of Mary’s squad of mercenaries in Scotland.

The writers will perhaps introduce a new character that will ultimately prove a villain, Lord Darnley, Mary Queen of Scots’ cousin and future husband, who historically made an appearance at the French Court at the accession of Mary and Francis II to the French thrown. If they are planning on killing off Francis sometime in season 2, time to start moving the story along. Lord Darnley will likely charm Mary making Francis jealous and suspicious of his motives and rightly so.

Can they actually blow through that much plot in one episode? Based on past experience, I say no problem. This is the season finale after all.

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May 11, 2014
I was totally thinking that Henry would challenge Francis during the jousting tournament with the intention of killing him. Which would in turn result with Francis killing his father instead.
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May 10, 2014
Especially love the Lord Darnley idea.
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May 09, 2014
I had considered and discarded the idea of Julien being an imposter, since he came recommended by people in the know and I assumed they'd done their research. But this makes complete sense. In the end, I did not see it coming. Totally gasped. Once it was revealed, faking Lord Julien's death and Remy disappearing really was the only way to go. And Lola gets to be a respectable widow (for however long until the inevitable baby-identity reveal).

I also thought Bash having murdered Pascal's father was a nice touch. So many of us adore Bash, it's good to have a reminder that - hey, this guy killed a couple people. They were actual people likely with families that would be affected. On the other hand, the kid leaves me slightly uneasy so I'm not entirely sure he doesn't have more to do with the darkness. I think there's more to him. I hope there isn't though because he's adorable and I could totally get on board with more scenes of Kenna as a foster mama.

The fact that Francis' campaign apparently took months makes me wander in the Reign timeline just how long it'll be until Francis dies. I truly hope they don't sidestep that i.e. give him a miraculous recovery after Nostradamus' vision happens or keep him alive for multiple seasons only to kill him in the series finale. I know there's a lot that still has to happen before he dies but it also should be a short marriage. At least that what I'd prefer, just to add to the genuine tragedy of it. At the moment, I'm expecting Henry to die in the S1 finale (will miss you Henry!). Then if S2 can have Francis ruling and dying at the end, I think that timeline would make sense.

This episode was less big on the laughs but I enjoyed it and am genuinely going to miss it when it's gone. Now bring on the finale!
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May 10, 2014
Yup that's the timeline that makes the most sense to me too.

I never forgot that Bash killed people who had families. He'll those people said that they had families before he killed them. But he killed them out of self preservation and in protecting Mary. If you do kill, it should be to protect those you love.

But yes I really like that Pascal not only was that guys son but witnessed it. It makes Pascal's plot value more interesting. Otherwise as Kenna's new cause is just bleh.

But everyone that has been killed has families. All those guys Francis and Leith just killed in battle were either young boys or had their own families too. And yeah its war but its still treating the poorer classes as pawns of little value. More so since Henry sent them with the most likely chance of getting slaughtered.
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May 11, 2014
No matter how you spin it, killing a soldier in battle really isn't the same as Bash killing an innocent guy to protect himself so that no one will find out about his Pagan background.
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May 12, 2014
Wasn't that he had to kill someone or they'd kill Mary?
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May 12, 2014
No, Bash already killed the Pagan (Pascal's father) for that reason. Bash was going to return the thief to the castle when he realized that the thief knew who Bash really was and his Pagan background. Finally, in this last episode, he showed some remorse.
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May 10, 2014
Of course. And I'm not singling out Bash as being worse than other characters just because we've now met the man's son. But it happened a good few episodes ago and having them revisit it now so directly and dealing with the repercussions from his act is a very nice surprise (assuming that's what they do). It's not something the show often does as a multi-episode arc for any character.
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May 10, 2014
Oh. then yes. totally with you.
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May 09, 2014
I did not see that coming...
Julian isn't actually Julian. This is better than I ever could have hoped.
Oh, how I love this crazy show. And they found a way of making sure the whole baby thing stays a possible threat to Mary, without making Remy look like a complete asshole.
Nice melodramatic scene btw when he lit the curtains.

They all just keep repeating themselves with the scheming. Every single time it blows up in their faces and they just keep at it. You've got to admire their persisitence though.

Kenna and Bash are officialy my favourite couple on this show. They are sweet, strong and mature. I will be so pissed if/when they end.
Can't wait to see how this murderous child works out for them...

Is Frances going crazy as well? He had serious crazy eyes when he manhandled Mary.
Henry is truly a mad king now. Hope that plan doesn't work out for Mary's sake.
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May 09, 2014
I can't understand how Francis can judge Mary when last week he did pretty much the same thing. He sacrificed her mother so as to save millions of innocents. If Mary haven't gone the "wrong" path, her mother would be dead. Now Mary sacrifices his father to save millions and he is sick of her and wondering what is wrong with her? Now he says it's personal because his father means too much to him but last week he said that letting her mother die is not personal? Whatever
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May 11, 2014
Ironically, in Liege Lord, Mary had no problem putting her mother in harm's way after learning of the marriage contract clause. Had Catherine not ordered those deaths, the Scottish Protestants would have been at the gates of the castle threatening her mother's life as well.
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May 09, 2014
"Mary sacrifices his father" .... lol she tried to murder him. I can't believe you can't see the difference.
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May 09, 2014
The result is the same. A (guilty) parent's death in exchange of the lives of many innocent people (French and consequently Scottish as well). Francis promised to save Mary's mother, so she trusted him and let him talk with her uncle (hence "steal" her army). Then Francis betrayed her trust by using the army for saving his people instead of saving her mother, telling her it wasn't personal but political. Now, Mary lies that she won't kill his father but she attempts so. You say that they are different because the one just lets the mother die (although he can save her by sacrificing their people) and the other one tries to kill the father (although she can let him live by sacrificing their people) but I fail to see this huge difference (after all Francis wouldn't have an army if it weren't for Mary). Both acts can be characterized as immoral but desperate times call for desperate measures and that's the excuse that both Mary and Francis have. I just don't see why Francis is the only one allowed to use it.

The only thing that is really wrong here is the fact that they don't even think of using that poison that just sends you in a coma as Kathrin initially planned. I guess it was just a plot device; used and forgotten.
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May 09, 2014
Here is the thing, the show took pains to establish that Mary is okay with killing to further her political aims last week, and with Catherine intent on it it's not even fully her idea, she's just taking steps to aid the only person in control who isn't raving mad running around killing chambermaids. Henry will happily sacrifice not just the French army but is throwing the entire succession and autonomy of Scotland in harm's way by trying to declare ware on Mary's behalf. Regicide has definitely been committed for less!
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May 10, 2014
Its not about if Henry deserves(even that is debatable because he is mentally ill) or even needs to die or not. Its about mary going behind francis back and helping to MURDER his father, and then justifying it by saying I'm sparing francis from doing it himself ? The argument was if what mary did is the same as what francis did , it is clearly different.
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May 11, 2014
Agreed. Francis tries to use logic and reason before coming to a decision whereas Mary seems to be more impulsive.
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May 09, 2014
1. Mary and Catherine as international assassins for hire: Would you watch that spin-off?

- Bring it on!

2. Poor Lola :( - first she had a rapist boyfriend, then Frances knocked her up and now they revealed her husband is fraudster. If that's not a bad karma then I don't know what is.

3. I like Kenna way more since she started to sleep with Bash. Too bad the pagan boy and / or Darkness will probably kill her.

4. When they finally kill Henry this show will lose one of its best characters :(

Thanks for review, Lily!
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May 09, 2014
Is Bash really developing a thirst for blood and has his darkness started to take him over? Is that what is also happening with Mary and her blackmail and murder plots?
If so, do they descend into that darkness together? Bash rooting his place as her right hand man in planning dastardly deeds? They both come from darker more hardship ridden childhoods than those others in their peer group and thus they will continue to better understand each other than any other.

I think both Kenna and Francis would refuse to understand what must be done.


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May 09, 2014
Hmmmmm I wonder if Pascal will bring about the end for Kenna and Bash. Sure she says she doesn't mind if Pascal is a pagan, but he is just a kid and has plenty of time to be converted. However once Kenna finds out that Bash is from pagan stock, knows the practices, and killed in their tradition for Mary, that's a whole other story.
Will Pascal try to kill Bash first in revenge? Will Bash accidentally kill him in self defense? Or will Pascal only tell Kenna that her husband killed his father?
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May 10, 2014
She won't mind if he's a pagan, but she will be upset when she'll know that he didn't trust her enough to tell her that he was a pagan.
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May 09, 2014
... Should Lola have found a way to stay with Remy, or was there no way to trust him?

If Lola does not stay with Remy, she would be out of the series would it? Besides, the child is safer with the real father, with real status.

... Pascal’s poetry recital: cute or super creepy?

I bet he is THE DARKNESS.. Sth feels supernatural about that kid.. and he is coming to seek blood... Bash's blood.

... Mary and Catherine as international assassins for hire: Would you watch that spin-off?

No.. too typical royal bitch fight in court.. If it is military fight that would be classy..

... Lay down your predictions for the finale!

The King's plot to kill Francis. The queens standing side by side to stop it.. Queen Cat handle the French + schemes + murder and QUeen Mary handle her two-face Uncle.. Bash seeks the DARKNESS.. and overpowers it?? (Maybe he'll be the DARKNESS himself??) Francis learn that he has a bastard child with Lola?? Mary decide to take her child as her ward?? Greer marries Castleroy.. while the kitchen boy watches.. Awkward stared between the two.. and she gt cold feet and stopped the wedding??? Er...

... A whistle?!

For an man with sharp teeth?? For a boy that evolve into a man with sharp teeth??

I KNEW LORD JULIAN AKA REMY IS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE.. NOW WHY WOULD A LORD MARRY A PREGNANT WOMAN AND AGREE TO RAISE THE CHILD...??
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May 09, 2014
You marry for the money obviously. You find out if the child is of any worth to the real father for more money. If not you could always plan his accident.
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May 09, 2014
ya... that too.. Lola seems to be that kind of person..Cunning and flexible.. and Remy said she was honest... I was laughing when he said it...
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May 09, 2014
oh.. and I predict that Francis will kill the King..
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May 09, 2014
*gasp* You don't say? What evidence you have for that? First born legitanate son of a King or history facts?
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May 09, 2014
what history facts?? it is a TV show.. I watched and predict.. if it didnt happen so be it.. typical Mad King move to his future successor...
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May 13, 2014
HAHAHHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Apparently I can't read. And every time I reread it I read it the same way. Never saw the kill before.

with all illegitimate children??
I don't understand.

Did the queen of scotts fell in love with one in HISTORY??
Not that I know of. We just know who she married I think.
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May 13, 2014
my wording?? if i remember correctly.. i didnt say francis will be king... i say he'll kill the king.. u seem to take this seriously.. like the show is real history..
with all illegitimate children?? Did the queen of scotts fell in love with one in HISTORY??
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May 12, 2014
It was your wording. You didn't say you predict for the finale just you predict Francis would become king, which of course he would.

And yes Bash is made up. However Diane and her relation ship with Henri is real (Though apparently she is 20yrs his elder) as well as his other dalliances with women. She was his closest confident for well over 25yrs since before he became being help prisoner by Spain as was made mentioned in the ep. Thus it is possible that there are illegitimate children born by Henri just not documented.
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May 11, 2014
Really?? I thought Bash wasnt part of the documented history?? ISN'T He a character created for the show?? And why is it that if I predict that 'he will be kind by the finale' any different from 'Francis will kill his father' at the finale??? They are my predictions.. it may or may not come true.. Only time can tell
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May 10, 2014
its a show based on real documented people from history- thats your facts.
If you are saying you predict he will be kind by the finale thats a different thing.
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May 09, 2014
There's a huge difference between not helping your spouse's parent (even though he tried to the point of agreeing to a very dangerous alliance with that snake De Guise) and actually trying to murder your spouse's parent. Personally i think that the double standard is ridiculous when it comes to Francis.
1.Mary takes away his birthright and activates a chain of events that almost kills his entire family and no one blinks an eye. Wasn't she taking away his right to choose then? But he stops her from going off to a journey that would probably get her killed and everyone loses their minds! and might i add with much more solid proof then the words of a magician.
2.He doesn't help Mary De Guise because he uses the sound logic that France is in immediate threat and if France falls to the English, Scotland is screwed anyway and he still gets hate. But when Mary tries to sabotage France in order to get what she wants, no one thinks that is being a really shitty wife? Imagine if it was Francis trying to threaten Scotland...
I understand that she is a Queen and her choices are hard but there is a difference between doing what's right and doing what's easy. Francis loves his father despite everything, not like Bash who would cut his throat on Mary's signal. I think he's the purest character on the show.

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May 09, 2014
Well here's another perspective: Mary is helping Catherine take down a rabid dog of a ruler who's read to drive both countries into the ground because he basically hears voices. It's a political decision.
When Frances locked her up in a tower, it wasn't for a political reason, her going to Scotland as a show of support wouldn't have cost him any soldiers or endangered any battles. He just personally didn't approve, and made a major political decision based on personal interests- a decision that was not really his to make.
I think both characters are sympathetic, and Frances is totally justified in staying loyal to his father. But then he should provide some option in terms of getting Henry out of power. It's not worth the populations of two countries to placate a madman.
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May 09, 2014
PS: i look forward to your reviews almost as much as i look forward to a new episode. :)
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May 09, 2014
You're right and i think that Francis will realize this no later than on the next episode. But on the other hand i can't help but respect the fact that murder is never an option for him, something that cannot be said about any of the other main characters on the show.
Perhaps murdering Henry might have been the only choice but i didn't want Mary to do it. You can be a strong ruler and have a human side, and these days there doesn't seem to be much difference between
Mary and Catherine.
Taking Mary's right to choose in 1x18 may have offended some fans but i can't help but agree with his reasoning. And had she been in his place, she would have done the same. She has done the same. Time and time again she yields to Francis' logic even though her first instinct is to be rash and stubborn. Like when she accepts in Higher Ground that Francis made the only choice he could make given the circumstances. And even this episode we find out that her brother has taken advantage of her mother's loss of power to take over.
First : If i were her,my first instinct would be to save France, since history has shown that without that alliance, her rule would soon come to an end.
Second: I like what Francis said "there are risks we take for the people that we love". Francis isn't unreasonable as he has shown time and time again. He will accept his father's condition. And Mary should have been there for him, instead of making him live with the regret that maybe his father might have been cured if they had given him time...
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May 11, 2014
I think it is really interesting that Francis is so hated. I think it probably stems from the fact that some people believe Bash would have been better for Mary. I think there is some validity in that. Mary would have always been first priority for him. Also Mary would have never struggled with putting her country first if married to him because she doesn't love him the way she loves Francis, so she would never struggle between her/Scotland's needs and Francis's needs. In other ways, Bash and Mary would have been a disaster, as Mary is a rash character and Bash has shown no grasp of politics and strategy and we were both shown and told that by the writers.

All the characters on Reign are flawed. Francis' main ones are that he tends to find comfort in the arms of any willing woman when rejected, and his ideals are sometimes a dangerous detriment. Think 1x07, where Mary and Catherine complain his nobility will get him killed. But Francis is logical and tactical, and patient things Mary lacks. Together they make a formidable ruler.

The best aspects of their relationship is their partnership. When they can plot on the same side for the same goal, and work together it is amazing. It is a marriage of equals, and no matter how duty comes between them part of the reason they love each other, is that the admire the other one's duty to their people.

I am a fan of almost all the characters on the show, and I will say this about Francis, he tries. More then any other character on Reign, he is shown as trying to be a good son, a good husband, a good brother. Sometimes he fails but he always tries and I love that.



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May 12, 2014
Well said! Mary and Francis working together in Liege Lord was a highlight. Of course, things didn't work out too well in the end.
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May 12, 2014
Well said! Great insight. Agreed! I think Francis is the most fully-realized male character on the show, so the way some people seem to hate his character baffles me. He has so many different roles that pull him in so many different directions, and he just tries to be the best version of himself, whatever is demanded of him.
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May 11, 2014
if i could up vote your comment twice i would! i couldn't explain it better myself!
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May 09, 2014
Uhhh are you forgetting Francis fully knew his mom has been constantly trying to kill his fiance off? That to his father she is nothing more than business transaction?
and lets not forget that Francis himself said he wasn't giving up his ladies on the side for Mary and flaunted it in her face?

So yeah its a double standard, but opposite to the one you have in mind.
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May 09, 2014
1. The only reason Catherine didn't kill Mary or have her raped is because of Francis. So he protected her from the beginning.
2. Mary's situation is not Francis' fault. And when he saw he couldn't provide what she needed he gave her up, which is far more selfless than anything anyone has ever done on that show, including Mary.
3. Francis knew that at anytime one of them could be shipped off to wed others and was trying to spare them both unnecessary heartache. He never cheated on Mary. He was honest and upfront from the beginning.
This is a story of two powerful people struggling to find balance between their responsibilities and their feelings. Which is why Reign is so interesting. And why Francis is my favorite character.
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May 09, 2014
Well it was obvious from the beginning that Francis is your favorite thanks to your blind loyalty.

Uh of course he cheated on her. They were engaged.
Uh Francis didn't protect her at all. Clarissa and Bash did. Hell even Henry and Catherine did at some point.

I can lists hundred more things but your love is blind.

Francis is the second most selfish cast member after Henry. Kenna is possibly tied with him.
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May 10, 2014
Its blind when you don't see the faults and spin him into a mistreated saint.
Of course he is suppose to have loyalty. That's what agreements are. How can you make pacts if you dont trust the other person to honor it?

Really I don't see Bash as selfish especially in comparison to the other characters. Nor am I saying he is comepletely selfless.
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May 09, 2014
It's not blind. i consider your response and I don't agree to it. An arranged engagement is as real as the binds that tie it and Francis owed Mary no loyalty. Francis was the one to stop his mother from attacking her or don't you remember?
And Torrance Coombs himself has admitted that selfishness is one of Bash's main traits so....
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May 09, 2014
SORRY.. I THINK SHE IS SHITTY WHEN SHE CHOSE FRANCIS AND ABANDON BASH.. IT WAS DOWNHILL FOR MARY THEN..
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May 10, 2014
I think she never loved him at all, and that's why, I don't think Mary deserve Bash's love. Look how she had become, she's hiring bad guys, planning to murder Henry with her worst enemy, and going behind her husband's back.
Bash didn't fall in love with a girl like that. Do you remember how shocked he was when she told him she hired a mercenary ? I think if he knew about her acts he will be disappointed..
Kenna is the girl for him, she may be selfish at times, but that's because everyone think of her as an object, or a pretty face.. I'm glad that he's falling for her now, I just hope he forget Mary because she doesn't deserve his love
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May 09, 2014
I don't agree that Francis is the purest character on the show. Purest character for today's episode? Fine, I'll accept. But you must understand Bash's status. The King treated the bastard son better, then suddenly he made him witness the love of his life in bed with his step brother.. He might expressed he wanted to cut his throat.. Honestly, in the end I predict Francis is the one that kill his own father.
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May 09, 2014
He didn't treat Bash better. Francis still got all the better toys and respect. Bash was treated more as a playmate since his actual value is much less precious. So he is like the toy that can be brought outside and on camping trips since its loss is no big deal, while the other more expensive toy has to be kept on the shelf and behind glass.
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May 10, 2014
No Bash was treated as an actual son, for Henry, Francis was his usurper.. That doesn't mean that I prefer Francis because I love Bash .. but if you watched the show, every one knows that Bash is the king's favorite child
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May 09, 2014
I don't see where you guys are getting that he doesn't value Francis and what not. That is all from Francis mouth. All he does is complain. Bash has nothing to his name, and is always sent on errands at great risk to himself. He is lucky that his father gives him room and board. If his father really cared he wouldn't have Bash eating only the crumbs he gives him. He'd give him his own home and land which would be extremely easy to do for a king. He probably treats Bash well as he does cause he likes what Bash's mom can do for him in bed. Its probably all Diane's doing that protects Bash.
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May 09, 2014
Francis was never a person in his father's eyes. His father looked through him and saw what many others saw: the Dauphin of France. That is literally all Francis was ever worth to Henry. Bash, however, was a person Henry actually took the time to know, to care about (however deep down). Francis wasn't born out of love, or passion, or even caring. Francis was born out of political need. The worst part is that that's all he is to Henry. He's insurance. He's not a person, not a son. He's The Heir.

And as for respect? Francis never got any. Not from his father, the man he's always looked up to and admired even though Henry pushed him away. Nowhere in any episode has Henry shown Francis any respect. Francis is like a pawn to Henry; if he does something successfully Henry feels as though it's his victory, not Francis's. As if Henry has any claim to Francis.

Francis's political value is much higher than Bash's; immeasurably. His emotional value, however, his sentimental value, his much, much, much lower. I can't repeat this enough: Bash was an actual person to Henry. Francis wasn't.

Part of me thinks that Henry's treatment of his sons was a subconscious reflection of how his own father treated him. His father adored Henry's older brother. And while I don't believe he necessarily hated or disliked Henry, he meant virtually nothing to him. (Total dramatization on my part, by the way) Henry connects better with Bash, or he used to, at least. Part of this is because they have (or had?) similar traits. Part of this is because Henry actually made an effort to love Bash. God. Really no brother comes out on the winner's end. They all lost with Henry.
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May 09, 2014
Honestly really??? The king treats Bash better... simply because Bash was Diane's and his first born bastard. Bash was the son that wasn't going to be a threat for his throne.. He spent quality time with him, hunting sword fighting.. Even Francis envies Bash's relationship with the king. Better toys and respect?? So what?? Francis was born with a birthright and a burden to carry. King Henry didnt respect this son... He treats him like a biological threat. Now he wants to kill him and wed his wife... How is that for a better toys and respect??
Even if King Henry treated Bash like a toy.. The relationship is established there.. It is not like he treat Francis like a son.. He treated him like a chess piece..
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May 09, 2014
Also if her really valued Bash, Bash would have long since had a title and lands to call his own.
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May 09, 2014
No he won't. And Bash was willing to kill his father LONG before he mistreated him in any way. It's funny if you think about it. The son he favored couldn't care less for him while the son he ignored genuinely loves him ...
And please stop with the choosing Bash thing. If you loved someone since you were six and were forced to let him go, and after two months of a relationship with another you were given the choice to go back to the love of your life what would YOU do?
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May 10, 2014
Young love is the best love because it's the only one that's true. Life will harden Mary. She will know loss, loss of a husband many times over, loss of her child who she will never see again after he is 10 months, loss of her crown, loss of her freedom, loss of her country. She will never be the Mary we see on Reign after she leaves France. She's barely the Mary we saw in the pilot. The Mary who went out and collected stones for Francis's sword-making endeavors. Remember that Mary? Talk about role reversal. Francis has become the romantic, and Mary has become the ruler.
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May 09, 2014
How do u know that Bash is willing to kill his father long before?? It is because of Mary that he is willing to kill his father... and he wasnt in love with her before she came.. So he wont kill his father LONG BEFORE.
You said the son the king favoured?? Yes true.. he favoured him... but why?? Because of Diane.. He favoured Diane.. and Bash was easy going with his father.. The king treats his bastard more like a son because this one is not challenging his throne... Francis on the other hand was destined to take the throne.. His life is more precious.. therefore he is activities were restrained.

How can I stop choosing Bash, when obviously he is every women's dream??
He care for Mary so much that even he didnt get her in the end he still cares for her..
Now with Kenna, he actually treats Kenna better despite her past with the mad king (HIS FATHER).. What his father had put him through doesn't seem that Bash is his favourite any longer.. Because now Bash is also a threat to the king.. He is actually a legitimate bastard to take over the throne.. And even Bash did verbally made threats.. He didnt do it..

I am not capable of loving someone at 6 yrs old... I wouldn't know.. I pray that I dont have to make decisions like Mary.
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May 09, 2014
I dont think she was in love with him since six. I dont think anyone can be at that young age. However she fully embrased the idea of him as her future husband at that age.
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May 09, 2014
Totally agree with you. She was in love with Francis and Bash knew it. She just chose the man she is in love with instead of the man she only likes.
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May 09, 2014
OH by the way, I think the kid (Pascal) is related to the Darkness somehow. I know it is a little farfetched but I have a feeling that the writers could go in that direction!

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May 09, 2014
I really didn't see the Julien thing coming! I imagined more like that he just gambled his money away or something and that his family just decided to cut him off. Well done writers! Was totally surprised.

I know that King Henry is supposed to die but I hope he doesn't. I really like him and the dynamism he brings to the show.
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May 09, 2014
there still could be more to his story. he is a con arist after all.
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May 09, 2014
I thought that this was the season finale and that they might actually kill Henry, he dies soon but he dies from an infected wound received while jousting so I was thinking that they were changing it or something. I hope he dies soon, I haven't liked him from the start, he's gotten more intresting since he's gotten crazy but he still needs to go.
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May 09, 2014
I would definitely watch the spin-off of Mary and Queen Catherine as international assassins for hire. Poison is Catherine's weapon of choice. What would Mary's be? I've only seen her directly kill someone with a fork and a rock (well not really, but it appeared she did). I think between Lola, Clarissa, Mary, Catherine, and Greer the ladies are winning on the murder count.
I don't like Pascal. Is that bad? The Darkness better not be Henry's older brother Francis (boy with tennis racket) who they all thought died but became a cannibal in the woods.
"I don’t remember seeing [Francis] raise a finger to help save Mary’s mother when murder was a certainty." Hmm, I must respectfully disagree here and only here. Murder was not a certainty. And Francis promised the Duke of Guise quite a prominent position in court once he takes the throne to secure an army; at the time he sincerely believed he was going to Scotland to rescue Marie de Guise. That was big. Follow through didn't happen, but he tried. Francis also did not plot to kill Marie de Guise. Maybe Henry isn't dad of the year, but I can see where Francis is coming from. It's pretty discouraging to find out that your wife and your mother are trying to kill your father and your king. Francis was not raised to be a usurper but an heir. It totally goes against his set of beliefs and upbringing. And Mary is a girl he's known since she was six. I think a part of him will always see the six year old in her, and he can hardly believe she would grow up to plot the murder of a king and his father. You can see the disgust, disappointment, and shock in his face, hear it in his voice. "Who are you becoming?" was less of a question and more of an accusation. It was a devastating confrontation between the two.
Oh the irony:
Francis: What is wrong with you?! He is my father! You can't kill him!!
Meanwhile Henry in the war room: I am going to kill Francis and marry his wife!!
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May 09, 2014
Well as spys for hire I think its Mary, Catherine, Bash, and Kenna. Kenna not so much on the killing but as a seductress for information and such.
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May 09, 2014
oh and I guess Nostradamus would be a stay at base analyst.
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May 09, 2014
I know he lied, but poor Lola... I can't help but think that you guys could have come up with a better story. And also, I snicker, the kid will likely have just as brown hair (dominant versus recessive gene thing).
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May 09, 2014
But you don't know what Lola's parents look like (do we?) If one of them's a blonde there's a good chance the kid will be too.
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May 09, 2014
  • I think when Lola referred to blonde hair and fair skin, she was referring to Francis who is blonde and fair skinned. I think what KateSullivan meant is that the kid is just as likely to have dark hair as it is to be a blonde and it might have been a slight mistype.
    • I believe Lola's brother had dark hair, and no, we don't know what they look like. Now dark hair is the most dominant shade so the kid could have dark hair. In genes, the dark hair is the dominant allele and the blonde is recessive. A person with a sequence with mostly dark hair alleles will most likely have a dark haired kid, while a person with no dark hair alleles in their dna sequence will be a blonde. Thus it is possible for two brown haired people to have a blonde haired kid (granted this is all basic and there are other factors but this is the simple version). On Francis' side, Catherine, Henry Jr, Charles and Francis are all blondes. Francis' sister Elizabeth has dark hair, and Henry I believe has dark hair (i know on the show he is bald, but you do see where the hair is growing back and I believe it is dark. We know Lola has dark hair and so does her brother.
    • However it is a tv show and Mary can't necessarily hide the truth forever especially since Lola is supposed to have a hard labor so the kid could end up as a blonde for the sake of the storyline.
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May 11, 2014
Thank you, I was just snickering in general at the whole thing. Of course, my father's family is full of red hair and me and my siblings, all brown hair. My cousins from that side, both blond (well ish as to one cousin, she tells me she has been coloring it since she was seventeen and doesn't know any more, but her brother is still blond and his children are half Indian who all have their mother's coloring but eerily look exactly like him, so they kind of look like dark elves, they are so freaking cute. My sort of blonde cousin, all her children are blond but so is their father (in her oldest the red is vaguely apparent - though it has a cool pinkish hue)
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May 10, 2014
As you say dark is dominant. Which means Frances must be bb (b=blonde, B=brown/black) so if one of Lola's parents is blonde then she might be Bb. Simple punnet square shows that the kids has a fifty-fifty chance of being blonde in those circumstances. But, my original point was that given that Lola has blue eyes and if one of her parents was blonde, especially her mother, I don't think too many people would question paternity or similarity, because they didn't understand genetics back then. If one of her parents has blonde hair, then a baby that was blonde/blue eyed wouldn't exactly cause a big stir. All she needs to do is say my mother/father was blonde and everyone will pretty much accept it.
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May 12, 2014
Aeidail, your sure that's the olden days or just your perception? I know on tv its the gimmick they usually pull just because its easier to stylize hairdos and clothing to make characters look more alike.
I'd think back then they'd totally recognize the pattern seeing they didn't have genetics and tv to fall back on.
But of course they'd get things wrong like its the mother is the one responsible for the sex of the child.
Seeing is believing back then. Of course with the exception of faith.
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May 10, 2014
kou_shun_u I was thinking more like back in those times, they would expect girls to look like their mothers and boys to look like their dads (so the opposite). For some reason in my head, Lola's baby is a girl ;) So if her mother was blonde and she has a girl with blonde hair and blue eyes, she can say she looks like her mother. But either way works just fine. It would be ridiculous for Reign to base an important plot point on the colour of a baby's hair though, given that the likelihood of having a kid with blonde hair is still reasonable with parents with dark hair, especially as Lola has light eyes, which would suggest a fairer parent (though not necessarily).
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May 10, 2014
shouldn't it be more if her father was blond? girls are more likely to take after fathers and boys after mothers genetically.
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May 10, 2014
We don't know what her parents look like, so I'm not necessarily going to guess. My initial point was merely that for storyline purposes, the kid will probably end up looking more like Francis than Lola. Or with Lola's luck the kid could look more like Lola but have some sort of family birthmark like Clarissa did and it could be recognized.
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May 09, 2014
Yeah, i think for the sake of plot the kid will end up having Francis's blonde hair if not also blue eyes.
But hey alot of dark haired adults were blonds as children so they can also try for that ruse.
Also what did the real Lord Julien look like? If he has fairer traits it could work out.
And they can also say some blonde guy is the real dad anyway.


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May 10, 2014
True, but Francis saw Remy. They thought he was the real Lord Julian. Since she has to stay at French court, if the kid turns out with fair hair then they will probably think something is up, seeing as they knew what Remy (fake Julian) looked like. Therefore, it does not matter what the real Lord Julian looked like, at least not to the people at French Court, because if the kid takes more after Francis and is more fair haired then they will know the kid is not Julian/Remy's child not with Lola having dark hair, and Francis knowing her brother has dark hair.
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May 09, 2014
Mendelian genetics and modern principles of inheritance aren't presented until centuries after this conversation between Lola and Remy. In their time, people believed royals were demigods, so of course Lola would think Francis, the Dauphin, would have prevailing traits. They weren't about to break out the parchment and quills and draw out a punnett square to confirm. But we all know who will do the math if the child has curly blonde hair and blue eyes.
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May 10, 2014
The point of the genetic talk is that if Lola has a blonde parent, then it wouldn't for strange for her kid to be blonde. If she doesn't then the chances are good that the kid will not be blonde (could still happen, but less likely). So I doubt the plot of a show as strong as this one will hinge on something as dubious as a baby with blonde hair. Apart from hair colour Lola and Frances are both similar with curly hair, blue eyes and pale skin. If they were vastly different, then maybe it could be a problem, but it's not. I know Lola might be worried about it, but as far as the future of the show goes, I doubt it will be a major factor.
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May 09, 2014
  • King Henry
    • Of course he wanted to go straight for England, he isn't thinking straight.
    • Francis seemed to be getting through to him while on the hunting trip. They changed some things according to how him and Francis (his brother) ended up in Spain, but they did not horribly change it. Alan actually showed emotion in the scene and it was a nice temporary bonding moment for Henry and Francis.
    • Then the Duke had to make his move and attempt to "kill" Henry. Now he is more paranoid than ever and believes that he needs to kill Francis and wed Mary. My guess is that to get rid of Catherine he'll either try to kill her outright or he'll just use the knowledge of her affair years ago to get a divorce and hang her.
      • Just knowing that after the finale we probably won't see Alan on Reign is kind of sad. A) he was so good, and B) him and Megan could be a riot one way or another, but there was also some sweetness there.
  • Catherine/Mary
    • Of course there would be a sweet reunion between Francis and Mary. It basically became the calm before the storm at the end of the episode. Granted, next week he admits that Henry needs to die, but still. He sees the change that Mary has gone through, and I have to wonder if he misses the old Mary.
    • Mary tried to make peace with Elizabeth, but of course her uncle stops her. That will definitely lead to problems later in her life.
    • I was not surprised that Catherine was able to convince Mary to get rid of Henry. Mary has changed throughout season one. Though part of her is the same, she has also grown as a ruler. She knows that sometimes you have to get your hands dirty, to protect yourself and others. Francis I don't think is ready to understand that completely, but he is not yet a king.
    • Its too bad they called off the plot, because the Duke managed to take advantage of the situation but from a historical perspective it was a good thing. Henry's death next week in the tournament is how he actually died.
  • Francis
    • Of course he thought he could save his dad, but at the end of the day he was only deluding himself. Henry is too far gone, and just because you can get through to someone who is insane, that does not always mean that you can continue to get through to him.
      • Granted, i'll be sad to see Alan go soon, so I was kind of rooting for Francis to succeed, but ultimately I knew Henry would die soon.
      • This of course means that Francis will probably die next season.
  • Bash/Kenna/ The boy (Pascal?)/Nostraddamus
    • I kind of feel bad for that kid. I knew something was up when he felt so nervous around Bash from the start. I mean, when he was initially found and was nervous around Bash I was like, ok his parents are probably dead and he is scared so i'll give him a break. But then the nervousness continued.
      • Kenna was very good with the kid. Now that Bash will be going for the darkness, I think she will continue to like having him around so she won't be alone. She even did not care that the kid was pagen. She is growing attached to the boy (Pascal?) and she'll want him around. I wonder how she will feel when she learns that it was Bash who killed the boy's father? Will they end up keeping the boy or will they place him with someone else?
        • It was nice in a way to hear Bash say at the end that he wants to come home to Kenna, and I chuckled when in a very wifely manner she told him that he better come home or she would kill him herself.
    • We actually so Nostradamus this week, and he could not get though to the boy either. He was smart to realize that sometimes it takes a woman's touch to handle a kid, especially a scared one. Now he'll be going with Bash to deal with the darkness Visagoth. No doubt he wants a little revenge for what he (Visagoth) did to Olivia.
  • Lola/Remmy (fake Julian)
    • I knew that something was up with Julian. It made sense that he was someone close to Julian otherwise, why would he be able to pass himself off?
    • While I'm glad Lola found out the truth, i'm a bit annoyed that she went along with Remmy. I know that being honest meant the possibility of not being taken care of by Julian's family financially, but I mean at some point didn't she think that the family would want to see the kid at some point, or that they would go to see Julian? I mean she could only make up excuses for so long? Yes, I know Remmy made it seem like Julian ran off, but there was definitely a possibility that they would look for Julian. Now, she has killed (accidentally) the real Lord Julian's uncle and she is in on a cover-up.
    • I have to wonder if at the end did Remmy stay in the burning room or did he run off as he told Lola he would?
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May 09, 2014
"Francis I don't think is ready to understand that completely, but he is not yet a king."

This is such a good point. I know Francis is portrayed as an idealist but when it comes to making the hard choices, he's been shielded from that by Catherine, the person who always does what needs to be done. Mary doesn't have the same luxury as she is a ruling queen with a lot of enemies and relatives with dubious motives. Mary changed a lot this season but Francis has more or less stayed the same. I want them to do the same character development they did for Mary in season one to Francis next season.
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May 09, 2014
I completely agree. But having to lock Mary in the tower, going off to war and risking his life... he had to make some pretty hard choices too.....
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May 09, 2014
Henry's madness is a terrible predicament for Catherine, Mary and Francis. They are wrestling with some weighty political, philosophical, and moral issues. On one hand, a major source of power for rulers rested upon the belief in the sanctity of royal blood. That’s why it was particularly distasteful and ill-considered for royals to kill royals. For example, Mary Tudor didn’t kill Elizabeth because of this reason. And when our Mary Stuart was executed, Elizabeth publicly played it as though Mary was executed against her orders. From a PR standpoint, Elizabeth pretended to be very upset when she "learned" of Mary’s execution because royals spilling royal blood undermines their claim to power. On the other hand, the kingdom could fall if a mad king making reckless decisions is not unseated. But how do you unseat a king who has absolute power without turning to regicide? What do you do when it’s a choice between France and its king, when they are no longer one and the same? I am so glad Reign has dived into such a rich political narrative while still managing to keep the personal relationships between the characters in focus and at the heart of it all.
The death of Henry is a significant death that I don’t think this show is ready for yet. At the very least, I’m not ready for it! Alan van Sprang turned in yet another powerful performance this episode. He made the most of his scenes. With Francis, Henry demonstrated such vulnerability and pathos. Small wonder Francis thought he got through to him. But at the end there, with the choppy camera cuts (great idea by the way) and bewildering ramblings, he was legitimately scary. Small wonder Catherine and Mary want to murder him. My theory is that Henry has a brain tumour. And I hope they can fix this. For the sake of slowing down the pacing, for our viewing pleasure, for France, for Scotland, I hope Henry survives this season.
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May 11, 2014
Catherine, as always you beautifully sum up the issues at play. Divine Right played such a big role in those days. Kings and Queens were chosen by God to rule, their own semi divinity was an established thing. For Mary and Catherine to try to kill Henry was HUGE! As you mentioned rulers were hesitant to kill other rulers because of the threat to their own power. In this case, Catherine is a ruler through marriage and not through birth and blood, her sin is less than mary's.

For Francis, note he mentions them trying to kill his father, and then almost as another thing, brings up the fact that the man is the KING of France. The sin is double and worse to him. One, Henry is a father he loves. Secondly, Henry is the king, chosen by god, and that is sacred. Messing with that has so many implications including weakening Francis' own claim to power.
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May 09, 2014
Even if he survives the season (I think there's a good chance he will, it's the middle of winter an he died in July so he's sake until things thaw out. But his death is coming soon, it will happen some time next season, we're currently in 1559 judging by what's happened and that's the year Henry dies, from an infected wound received while jousting. So unless there's a time jump he'll survive the season, I would put his death somewhere before the middle of next season judging by the speed things are moving at but time jumps between seasons are common place so it might even happen in the premier for all we know. That is assuming they stick to history, which they haven't been super good about to be honest, Frances is 14 at the time this is all taking place, weak, small and sickly. He's not particularly tall or well built in the show but he's not particularly weak looking, he's got facial hair and he's participating in battles, neither of which are historically accurate. But I can't see them changing things in such a drastic way so yeah, I'm confident that he'll last the season, beyond that I don't know for sure, I can't see him getting to the latter half of season two though, if he got that far along I would be surprised, one thing I'm certain of is that he won't make it through season two.
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May 09, 2014
I do agree with you, they did a good job with this episode. All of the issues on whether or not to kill a ruler is an important aspect and Reign handled it well. I also agree, I don't want Alan to go either.
Obviously, you did not see the preview for next week.

SPOILER: He gets into a jousting accident next week (which was how he died in real life). I wonder if they will bring Diane back for the final episode? The one thing I definitely know will be changed is the fact that the actual joust was supposed to be in honor of his daughter Elizabeth marrying Phillip II of Spain. In the show, they were married in the pilot. This also means that chances are, we will see Francis dead by the end of the second season.
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May 09, 2014
THANKS SOOOOOO MUCH FOR LISTING TRUE HISTORY AS A SPOILER!!! Glad someone is taking my plee to help cover my eyes and ears from such things.
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May 09, 2014
Well I did see the preview and I think the jousting tournament is misdirection. A good show is always a few steps ahead of its viewers, and I think the writers/producers took into account that the target demographic of the CW is internet savvy and resourceful, and a quick search will give you the sweep of the story. But wouldn't it be such a pleasant surprise to see Henry survive? To see his madness explained and overcome? I don't even know what's going to happen moment from moment on Reign ("I must kill my son and marry his wife" is a great example of its unpredictability), so I couldn't even begin to think about what would happen by end of next season. All I know is that with the death of Francis comes Mary's return to Scotland, and we would be saying goodbye to so many major characters/actors and a landscape that this show has spent quite a bit of time and energy building, growing, and promoting. Somehow, I think they're going to take their time with such a sea change.
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May 09, 2014
I get what you are saying about misdirection and shock value. I have seen plenty of shows where something is mentioned a few times and then it happens. Killing off Henry has been mentioned more than once on the show. It is going to get addressed in the next episode as well. Could they have Henry get into an accident and all of a sudden he is not mental anymore-they could. But they keep showing that man with the tennis racket (who I am assuming is his older brother Francis). There is a reason why Henry is seeing his older brother, it is significant and even if it is not Francis then that character still has some sort of significance. It could be a "your going to die" reference, or it could be something else, we will see.
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May 09, 2014
True, but from what I've heard and seen in the previews Mary and Francis seem to take more control of France next episode. Besides, what would be the point of showing the jousting if they are not going to kill off Henry? What, are they going to do a jousting tournament again and kill him or are they going to kill him off another way? AVS & TR both went into the show knowing that there characters would end up being killed off. Its just a matter of when. I think I heard the show will end in a cliffhanger so who knows-the accident could happen at the end and then they finish it off sometime in Season 2.
I know that once they kill of Henry and Francis then the landscape will change a bit. But there is a possibility that Mary's ladies would go with her to Scotland so who knows.
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May 10, 2014
Kou_shun_u
Let me clarify somethings, when Francis will die Mary will wed her cousin, and have an affair with her personal secretary based on history facts..
The writers clearly said that Mary and Bash are done, Bash will fall in love with Kenna because she's the one for him..
Besides, Mary never loved Bash, he loved her deeply but she didn't. Kenna will. And if you really loved Bash character you wouldn't want him to be with Mary, I mean seriously, would you still be in love with a girl who chose your brother over you ? a girl who broke your heart ? a girl who had sex with your brother in front of you ? if Mary even cared for Bash, she would have asked to get him out of the room, but she didn't. And even after that, every time she talked to him was because she needed something from him, like the time when she asked him to get Charlotte out of the country, or the time she told him she had to choose someone to kill in order to solve her problems.. even he told her "that's why you came to me ?"
I seriously think she doesn't deserve Bash, let her be with Francis, they bot deserve each other.
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May 10, 2014
They never said for how long. for the rest of this season sure. maybe even half of the next. but after that?
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May 10, 2014
kou_shun_u, who knows if they will bother putting Mary back with Bash. One of the writers said in an interview that they are moving away from the Mary/Francis/Bash triangle and that they are going to have Kenna/Bash working on their marriage. The two seem to be getting along better so who knows.
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May 09, 2014
Well they made it a point that the writers can manipulate history to a certain degree.
In the pilot they made mention that Francis is thought of sickly by all outside close grounds because of how he was depicted in a painting.
With Tomas, Francis and Bash killed him off but then Catherine said that it will be recorded as a hunting accident as it is in the history books.

So I do think its likely they will kill off both Henry and Francis. More so Henry cause he is not the main love interest. However Francis has the prophesy hanging over his head, which the plot rotated around. Sure they can fake deaths but they can only pull that stunt so many times in the course of the show.

And of course the eventual death of Francis is my main point of hope for Mary and Bash being the long haul ship.
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May 09, 2014
Hmm, let me clarify. I think they're using the joust as misdirection for shock value. Like "Surprise! We didn't kill Henry off, but you thought we were going to because of Wikipedia, didn't you?" A TV show is art, and "the essence of art is surprise."
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