Revenge "Hatred" Review: All's Fair in Love and War

Revenge S03E13: "Hatred"


Oh boy, was Revenge on a bit of crack last night or what? It makes sense given that it was a mid-season finale and the series won't be back until March, but "Hatred" was full of, well, hatred. But it wasn't just Emily and Daniel fighting it out, as I had assumed it would be. The theme extended to Victoria, who was dealing with her own hatred of the man who raped her, and Conrad, as well, was dealing with his own shit as he moved out of Grayson Manor after Emily confirmed it was Lydia who shot her and the last sliver of his heart shattered forever. So hatred was spreading like herpes all over the Hamptons, and only a few people remained unscathed (but let's talk about them later, because happy people are boring people).

A psychological war between Emily and Daniel actually has the potential to be far more exciting than Emily's slow-burning seduction and romance with him ever was, but I think it'd be more effective if I thought Josh Bowman could make an evil Daniel believable. It's hard to take serious the scenes in which he's supposed to be threatening, because, well, he isn't. Henry Czerny pretty much has it down now, and it's why Conrad is so menacing. Perhaps he can give Josh some advice, because when I'm laughing during a scene in which I should actually be worrying for Emily, it really takes away from the series. And I wound up laughing quite a bit during "Hatred," especially in the scene in which Emily walked in on Daniel and Sara in bed. Really, bro? Really, that's how your going to win this war? Good one. That's high school level crap. It's going to piss Emily off, but it's not really going to do much else. And in the end, Emily won the battle, anyway.

Bringing Sara around the house was pretty amateur crap, and after Sara attempted to out-bitch Emily by the pool, Emily played dirty by tracking down her mother. And I was so happy that she did, because as I mentioned last week, Sara is too smart to be doing something so stupid with Daniel. Home-wrecker connotations aside, this is the woman Daniel nearly killed in a drunk driving accident and who had to pay for her rehabilitation on her own because his family is a horrible waste of space. Sara should never have been in this situation in the first place, because she always came off as a self-confident woman who was too smart to fall for Daniel's shit a second time. I'm not saying the characters on Revenge are all that realistic or even that smart most of the time, but what self-respecting woman would allow herself to be put in that position? (A lot, actually, but just go with me here.) If you were nearly paralyzed and then left on your own, would you be so quick to open yourself back up to the monster who did it? Sara might not have known Daniel was the one who shot Emily, but that's beside the point here. Daniel nearly ruined her life, and there she was, willingly letting him back in?

I never thought Sara was a great addition to the story given the way she was introduced so quickly, not to mention her entire existence was a plot device, but I also feel like she doesn't deserve to be dragged through the mud this way. Daniel claims he loves her, and I think he does, but he's been using her as a pawn in this war against Emily. I think it would have only been a matter of time before she wised up and realized this, too, because Emily certainly wasn't going to go anywhere, which means that war of wills wasn't going to stop. It's about time someone escaped the clutches of the Graysons unscathed (well, this time, not that time with the car accident), so good for her for realizing the truth of the situation. 

(You can't really tell in this photo, because I cropped Emily out, but Madeleine Stowe, is the best at throwing shade. Maybe Josh Bowman could also take some lessons from her.)

As for Victoria's storyline with Patrick this week, I think it was a good story to keep with the overall theme of the episode, but the tone of it all didn't mesh well with the tone of the Emily and Daniel A-plot, which made the transitions quite jarring. Victoria isn't often defenseless, and it was kind of wonderful to see her let her guard down, but I think this particular storyline could have been saved for another episode. Of course, then we wouldn't have had Patrick's angry painting and that would have been a shame, wouldn't it? Nothing expresses anger quite like angrily throwing paint on a canvas and then smashing glass and lighting the place on fire, so, um, well done! I think Patrick is hurt and angry about his life and about how he came to exist, and probably just about a lot of things really. But like I said, even though it kept with the hatred theme, this storyline could have been saved for a time when it would have received the proper amount of screen time to make is resonate with viewers. As it stands, it took the backseat to the war brewing between Emily and Daniel and therefore wasn't give its due.

And lastly, the only people not touched by hatred this week were Jack and Margaux, who are apparently so in love with each other (JACK, SERIOUSLY?) that they're going to move in together (JACK, SERIOUSLY?) after Jack buys a new house (JACK, SERIOUSLY?). I am all for Jack moving on and being happy, but this is like, within four or five months of meeting Margaux. I don't even know how long they've been dating. Revenge is obviously not a show based in any world where there's common sense, but oh boy, this is going to blow up spectacularly in the coming weeks, right? Especially with Margaux on the outs with Daniel now that he's been ousted from the company by his own father as revenge for shooting Emily and thereby ruining Lydia's life. That sounds like it doesn't make any sense, but I assure you that's 100 percent correct. No one can be happy for too long on Revenge so I see this plan falling apart before the season is over. Does anyone want to place any bets?

Hatred was obviously the theme of this week's episode, but it's also the basis for the entire series, and so for all my problems with the series, I'm at least happy that everyone's showing their true colors at last. Emily's thirst for revenge is fueled by the hate she feels toward the Graysons for destroying her family (and now the future possibility of having her own family), and Daniel's thirst for destroying Emily is fueled by hate and the knowledge the she's lied to him for the last three years. Victoria and Conrad obviously can't stand each other, and now Niko has discovered a katana under Aiden's bed which means she must know he killed her father. And you just know Charlotte's off somewhere hating someone for something. There's really no one left in the Hamptons who hasn't been touched by hatred at this point. I don't know much about the real Hamptons, but I don't think I ever want to go there based on what I've seen here. But it'll be interesting to see where these characters go when they return in March. And I'm interested in seeing how much life Revenge has left in it because hatred can only fuel a fire for so long. Until March!


NOTES

- LOL @ Aiden keeping the katana under his bed, especially after Niko moved in. He had plenty of time to move it from that hiding place too. That's bad writing, writers! Not even Aiden is that dumb.

- I am assuming Emily's beginning to lose chunks of time (rage blackouts?), but I'm very confused by this new development. First, she somehow made it from the pool to Nolan's to confront Aiden without knowing how she got there, and then she went from being threatened by Daniel to waking up in Conrad's bed? I don't necessarily like what the show is trying to insinuate in that last scene, but I also just want to know what is happening to Emily.

- JACK, SERIOUSLY?

- I couldn't decide which look of Nolan's I liked best this week, but I really did enjoy the white with orange pants look, for some reason. I think it's the orange pants. I don't think we've seen him in those before, have we? 


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Jul 26, 2014
Daniel is new to the scheming world so I'd cut him some slack as he cuts his teeth on being conniving. Both Victoria and Conrad (and Emily' been planning this) are consummate players so Daniel has a ways to go. I don't think his foolish schemes is anyway out of character.
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Feb 11, 2014
I love Conrad. Just wanted to get that out there.
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Feb 06, 2014
I will forever like Nolan Ross because his an ally to our dear Emily. I hope that Nolan will always be there for Ems..
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Jan 26, 2014
Emily is the only character I like and need to like IMO. I don't even feel sorry for bitchtoria and her whatever son. Aiden obviously should be written off the show ASAP, poor Niko. And then there's Conrad first bitch. Good luck Emily.
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Jan 25, 2014
adien I cannot stand you anymore!!! when will they kill him off?? and for the first time i've started to empathize with victoria and all that she went through to make her who she is today.Victoria and emily really are two peas in a pod.
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Jan 23, 2014
the writers don't know what to do with this show. very confusing and such a long break till march 9th. disgusted with this show. will forget what happened in the last episode because we have to wait so long now.
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Apr 20, 2014
I think they count on us forgetting.
The show needs to end before it's milked into losing all its attraction.
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Jan 22, 2014
I love this show,everytime I think it's going nowhere fast, it surprises me!! This mid-season finale was A-mazing... The blacking outs, the schems, crazy eyed Niko going postal on the mangos...priceless!! ahah
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Jan 22, 2014
I loved it one of the best episodes of the season and Daniel needs to die what a a-hole rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr I hate that man. Now what the heck is wrong with Emily her brains on fritz I still love her and aden so I really hope that crazy niko doesn't separate his skin from his flesh because that yuck. That scene creeped me out that girl is straight up nut balls with a side of crazy.
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Jan 22, 2014
To all those who still believe Jack and Emily are endgame, I say "wake up and smell the roses"! If Emily truly loved Jack then why did she plan to disappear with Aiden? She could have disappeared with Jack (and Carl) but chose Aiden. Even when injured in the ocean she still wanted to run away with Aiden. Hardly the actions of someone in love with Jack.

If Jack was truly in love with Emily why would he be planning to buy a house with Margeux? Why did he push Emily away during their second kiss? Not really the actions of someone in love with Emily.

Jack and Emily have shared two kisses so far, that is all. And they went no further, both times things could have gone further, but didn't. Not really the actions of two people supposedly in love.

The passion with Aiden is obvious. While engaged to Daniel, Emily and Aiden risk everything to sleep together, they can't keep away from each other. And judging from the preview for the next episode they are back together and fighting passionately again.

Jack and Emily are friends and shared a past together. She recognised Jack when she was coming out of her amnesia because he was from her past.

There have been many, many times where Jack and Emily could have got together if they wanted to. But it doesn't happen, because nothing is there.

Get over it.
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Apr 20, 2014
Jack needs to be endgame but the writers want to put off the end as long as they can so they keep adding complications.(If renewed for next season the actress who plays "Margaux" (they should have called her Margot which is a personal rather than a place name) has a contract for the season...just as they stuck us with Aiden for this season).
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Jan 23, 2014
Ah, but everything has changed for Emily. She can't have children of her own. I think, she'll end up mothering Carl. Jack and Margaux are going nowhere. She didn't tell him about her arrangement with Conrad, the guy who is responsible for the deaths of Jack's wife and his brother. Jack will cut Margaux lose when he realizes that the French minx is in bed with the devil. No way will Jack accept that. He hates Conrad. As for the sex part. That's not love, that's lust. And if we went by your logic Aiden is in love with Niko (btw disgusting as hell to cheat on Emily with the daughter of the man he has killed). I think, Emily and Jack are still the endgame.
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Jan 23, 2014
I find it interesting that amount of people who think that because Emily can't have children of her own (we don't know for sure) that she will suddenly start looking for a man who has a child already (Jack) and that will solve all her problems, neatly tied up in a bow! As if!

Also Emily has shown no real interest in Carl, despite him being her god-son. Charlotte has shown more interest in Carl than Emily. Does that mean that Charlotte should hook up with Jack? Really.
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Jan 23, 2014
Charlotte is under the impression that Carl is her nephew and kind of took over as his "mom" when Amanda died. And when does Emily ever really see Carl? That moment in the 12th episode between Emily, Jack, and Carl was nice if you don't think she's shown any "interest" for him. I really don't care who she ends up with, but if I have to choose I'll pull for Aiden because I think they match up better. I don't think in the end that it will really matter if she can or can't have kids because I'm calling it right now that she ends up dying while getting her revenge. And the show will end with a big yellow/white glowing light and Emily sees her dad and Fauxamanda and Sammy and Declan and whoever else has died along the way because that's how cheesy this is getting.
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Jan 23, 2014
To be fair, Jack is a pointless character. Infact speculations about any possible Jack's endgame sucks..
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Jan 22, 2014
Oh I know she SHOULD be in love with Aiden for sure - but the writers dont like that as it seems- cause they always make it really obvious that Jack like Emily and she likes him. Does it make sense? No of course not ( since the beginning) but the writers dont really care
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Apr 20, 2014
Aiden needs to be killed off ASAP!
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Jan 22, 2014
I really like this show, though it has obvious flaws. Daniel is just the worst actor and character EVER. Please somebody just kill him off and bring in some better baddies. The way they are writing the story for Aiden is sooooo bad, it's like the writers are trying to make him the least liked and most annoying character ever, besides Charlotte who has like several different personalities. The writers need to write smarter characters. The back and forth with Nolan and Patrick is annoying too, they take a half step forward and three steps back. Cheezus, can we just make it work between them please? I feel like Nolan never really gets to be happy. I hope the writers continue forth with a happy story for Margaux and Jack (though I'm guessing it's unlikely), but come on already! This show, though I love it, is becoming somewhat of a joke.
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Jan 22, 2014
100% true - see I watch it and just laugh a lot.. its like a comedy now ;) the characters are not good writen so I guess we just have to get over it ... ;)
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Jan 22, 2014
Dear showrunner,

This show needs to build something positive in the storyline.

This show needs despairingly the positive energy in the whole.

This show needs to build something meaningful for Emily instead of taking everything good away from her life.

Emily is going to be destroyed by her own choice, and so does this show.

The positive, positive energy is very important for any TV show and its rating, please build something meaningful for the main character.
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Jan 23, 2014
Actually, Emily being destroyed is a fitting end.
From a moral standpoint, revenge does that exactly.
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Jan 22, 2014
If this was a daytime soap I'd assume the Emily has a multiple personality disorder, she's losing time but still interacting with (and obviously having sex with) people. Also during her blackout she's still continuing with her revenge so my guess would be whatever that stuff is that Nico gave her has caused this personality shift. If it's anything else I don't know what it would be. I love Emily going after Daniel directly and as with most of the new cast members Sara had a very short shelf life. I expect her to pop in and out as often as Lydia does. Nico's time is almost up based on that sword fight in the preview; this can't end well for her because we know Emily isn't going to die; but I'm sure it will be Aiden that kills her in the end. It was a good episode but Emily and Conrad, just makes me wanna throw up.
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Jan 22, 2014
I hope Niko kills Aiden though. After all Takeda deserves to be avenged and Aiden needs to go.
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Jan 22, 2014
I thought about Aiden getting killed but that would only leave Jack as a viable love interest for Emily and they love keeping her in love triangles / quadrangles. Now that Daniel hates her the equation would be broken. I think the writes love Aiden more than we do; so I'll be really surprised if he dies, unless someone new comes in for Emily I think he's safe. I think in the end Jack and Emily will end up together I'm sure that's the end game.
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Jan 22, 2014
of course it is, makes no sense and I hate it - but he the writers dont really care about good stories those days ;)
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Jan 22, 2014
Hella naw, if anyone needs to go it's Niko, she's kind of annoying. The writers are just spouting crappy storylines when it comes to Aiden.
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Jan 21, 2014
I just love how Emily is finally able to directly f*ck with the Graysons yet retain her identity. Daniel's abrupt development into a major antagonist was certainly rushed for the writers' convenience...but seeing Emily and Daniel go at it makes for great TV. They're both products of Conrad and Victoria's nastiness, and I wouldn't be surprised if they end up eventually reconciling. Emily has to acknowledge that her mission did have a major impact on Daniel becoming the man who shot her in the first place. Charlotte better have been busy looking into Emily's amnesiac confession about David Clark being her father. Charlotte's entry into Emily's fold would be a great reward for the long wait when the show comes back in March.
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Jan 21, 2014
One thing that is still bothering me is how Aiden reacted to Emily telling him she couldn't get children anymore because of Daniel.
No matter what she says, if she was my girl, I would just kill Daniel or at least beat him into a coma. But no, he was more angry about the fact she was going to continue her revenge instead of leaving it.

Then there is the blackouts... I can understand she can have blackouts and then not remembering what happend, but doing something so out of nature like sleeping with her father in law, that's just stupid.

When Daniel grabbed her and threw her on the bed, I kind of hoped her defensive skills would kick in and she beat HIM up. That would have been sooo funny. Daniel so doesn't want to be like his father, that he actually is exactly like him.

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Jan 21, 2014
Oh, and I know Nolan was just trying to be nice and have Niko's revengedetta actually involve some justice, but no one really wants the man that killed Declan Porter to get what's coming to him. In fact, I'm sure there are plenty of Revenge fans out there who would like to buy that man a drink.
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Jan 22, 2014
This is by far the best comment I've seen yet.
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Jan 21, 2014
Yes, Revenge was on bit of crack, Kaitlin, and I loved it! Having Emily and Daniel at each other's throats is so refreshing after, like you mentioned, two and a half seasons of their 'slow-burning seduction and romance'. I'll have to disagree with you about Josh Bowman's acting, he may not be the best actor at most times, but I really felt scared for Emily when he confronted her after Sara's departure. I really was expecting him to start throwing punches, I thought Emily was quite lucky he only gave her a bit of a hair pull.

Speaking of good acting, like you said, it's not often we see Victoria defenceless, so that too, is refreshing when we're able to see that Madeline Stowe has a wider range of emotion than a stink eye aimed at Emily. I really wish they would show it more, but poor Victoria's past is really just too depressing to wallow in for long. So now she's been raped twice? Urgh, that's not really something I want Revenge to keep bringing up.

Conrad is such an excellent villain, he's just so resourceful, and I know it shouldn't make me happy when he wins, but watching him school Daniel was fun, particulary because Margaux was so eager to get him away from Voulez.

That last scene worries me a lot though. I don't like when shows get all, existential, and Emily's lapses in time were certainly that. But more disturbing... Conrad slept with her? I'm hoping that this is just a ploy on Conrad's part, that he's trying to make her believe they slept together, although for the life I me I can't think why he would do that. It's a very bizarre thing to have happened.

I was going to ask where Charlotee was this week, but your answer seems very accurate and I have no need to probe further: 'you just know Charlotte's off somewhere hating someone for something.' Seems about right.
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Jan 21, 2014
Why raped twice? The first time (David Clark) it was a lie... so is everybody buying that this time it is for real?
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Jan 21, 2014
Wasnt she molested by her mothers boyfriend? Also at 15?
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Jan 24, 2014
For some reason, I was under the impression that she was raped by her mom's boyfriend and her mom blamed her for it. And Patrick was the product of that action. So this episode brought me in a totally different direction
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Jan 21, 2014
I still really miss the season one quality and how Emily was going one after another in every episode ! But at least we got the hate look and revenge look a lot over Emily's face <3
A lot of stupid stuff needs to change but i liked the "Blackout element , Flash-Forward" kinda fresh for the show !
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Jan 24, 2014
i kinda miss her black sweatpants and hoodie.
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Jan 21, 2014
Well, I feel they just don´t know what to do with Emily. Amnesia, fear, depress, revenge again, and now schizophrenic. All a huge wall to hide how bad actress she is when she is not doing the revenge staff from season 1, which I agree, it was Emily at her best.
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Jan 21, 2014
AAAAHHHHHHH KAITLIN, i LOVE your review for hatred, especially ( JACK SERIOUSLY! )... you did the great job and im with you 100% in everything you said... WELL DONE... cant wait till march, it really sucks that 1st we have to wait for mid season christmas and new year and now again till march heck... all my fav shows are on hold till march then they all go off the air at the same time till sep, what is this, not happy :(((
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Jan 21, 2014
What I hate is the new long winter break. It was not long ago a long pause, and now a new one? I will never understand the way this goes in USA.
Another thing I hate is to see how poor actors/ actress both Emily VanCamp and Joshua Bowman are outside their limited roles of nice charming galant son and robotic revengy chess player thinking woman. Only Nolan and Victoria are worth watching, and I think Victorias monologue telling Patrick how he was conceived was some of the best Madeleine Stowe has done in the whole series. As I said many times before, Gabriel Mann deserves his own spin off show.
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Jan 21, 2014
One of, if not, the best episodes of the season.

Agree that the Victoria story didn't particularly fit and conflicted with Damilys war. I half expected Daniel to rape her when he pushed Emily down on the bed but honestly Victorias story felt just a tad bit too cliché. I mean what is the most effective way to prevent Patrick from wanting to meet his father... tell a rape story.

Also agree on the katana being kept underneath the bed is way out of character as Aiden wouldn't keep anything that would link him to a murder and certainly not underneath the bed he shares with the daughter of whom he murdered.

I still can't wrap my head around what they did with Margeux. I mean was she supposed to be after Daniel at the beginning?
Jack being annoying as always but I understand where he's coming from. With how many he lost live life to it's fullest gets a whole new meaning.

Maybe it is the acting but I can't get myself to not like Conrad. He isn't particularly evil, he's beyond that, without conscience, aside from the short lapse during Parkinson.

Oh and the last blackout was just golden Emily waking up in a hotel room w/ only one bed and Conrad, the man who ordered her fathers death, thanking her for the wonderful night... Did not see that coming.

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Jan 21, 2014
Honestly I think Emily CAN still have children and that was a twist that Niko has created by altering her medical records (as payback when she found out Aiden and Emily were engaged??). Otherwise wouldn't that have been something both Aiden and Nolan would've read when they hacked into the hospital and were viewing Emily's medical records online to see what her condition was??
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Jan 21, 2014
I dont understand why she doesnt go to see a docter first. I mean can you trust the Graysons?
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Apr 20, 2014
Victoria dared her to see a doctor which may have made her feel Victoria knew she wouldn't be contradicted.
But I do hope it's wrong.
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Jan 21, 2014
what the hell is even going on anymore...
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Jan 20, 2014
I was interested in this show because I've heard people comparing it to the count of monte cristo. but after the last episode I'm convinced they're going for a Wes Craven's Deadly Friend kind of movie. it makes sense! Emily is acting more and more like a robot, Nolan is the supernerd who build Emily from old computer scraps and Victoria will be killed by a basketball.


...and it will be glorious! BEE BEE!
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Jan 21, 2014
Thanks for removing that clip.
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Jan 21, 2014
Why did you remove it only to put it back up again? Really!
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Jan 21, 2014
the magic of tv.com! heh, I tried to remove it and now it's back. I don't know what to do - this system is in desperate need of an EDIT button...
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Jan 21, 2014
what was is it? I wanna see it ;)
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Jan 21, 2014
Jaja it looks like a watermelon explotion.
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Jan 20, 2014
That is a pretty disgusting clip to put up on this website. You can imagine your own shows all you like but you don't need to subject the rest of us to this imagery. It is not as if we can turn it off and not watch.
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Jan 21, 2014
Boringggg
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Jan 21, 2014
I think they made Sarah unlikable.... Which is a shame, because the story would have worked better if she had been a nice, genuine person (which to be fair, she probably "is") who fund herself in this bitchy insane world, but instead they made her into someone who has no self-respect, and that is a turn off. Also though, now and even if she was a perfect girl, Daniel would not deserve her. Man's a total douche at this point with zero redeemable characteristics.

I think Van Camp must be a very good actress who is outgrowing the writing of this show. Her smile in real life is amazing, and we've never even seen it on the show, it's all lowered voice and fake smiles, kind of like Daniel insinuated.
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Jan 21, 2014
This season is so good... so... so good.
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Jan 20, 2014
I'm having a harder and harder time rooting for Emily. Is it just me? I think my issue is that in the beginning (if you were to rewatch the pilot ep you'd see it right away) Emily had a lot of concern/sympathy for innocents getting caught in the crosshairs of her and the Grayson's schemes. Now it's difficult to tell the difference between her and them when it comes to innocents caught in the middle.
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Jan 21, 2014
Concern for innocents? She put videos of a psychiatrist's sessions with her patients on youtube. Who does that hurt the most, the shrink or the patients? She also got a guy sent to prison by tricking him to lose his clients' money. A lot of them probably went broke.
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Apr 20, 2014
Fair catch on "Uncle Bill"...though I think the show expects us not to sympathize with rich investors.
The whole "corporate" part is utterly unrealistic.
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Jan 21, 2014
Na - I dont like her either ;)
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Jan 20, 2014
She hasn't been around innocent from the earliest episodes..
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Jan 20, 2014
Once again.... Whuuuuuuuut?
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Jan 20, 2014
It's great to see this show rise from the dead each week a little more. Huge improvement guys! I love to see Emily toying with Daniel and Sara like that it's refreshing to see her openy scheming against the Graysons. Their little war is entertaining and as days go by they're becoming more and more like Conrad and Victoria! Great idea even though I'd like to know what the end game is. Seeing Daniel being violent to Emily was hard to witness though, I hope he won't think of killing her. He's becoming more and more despicable as weeks go by. Great strategy of Emily's to make him believe she is weak and can't fight back, I can't wait to see her kick his ass! I don't understand why she didn't tell Sara that Daniel shot her though! It would have been that easy to get rid of her but I guess it was more fun to mess with her family! I don't think Emily did sleep with Conrad. I think he was refering to whatever she did to make his first ex-wife come back. Victoria mentionned she destroyed her so she might hold a slight grudge against her! Haha! This should be fun to watch. Can't really get an opinion on those blackouts but, why not! Hiding the katana under your bed after Nikko moved in and told you she knew her father's killer kept it?! How can you be so stupid Aiden?!!!
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Jan 21, 2014
Of course she couldn't tell Sara that Daniel shot her, Sara would tell the press (or at least tell someone who would tell the press) and then it would mean that the police would have to investigate Daniel. Would also make Emily look stupid for saying Lydia did it.
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Jan 22, 2014
yeah but sara's word doesn't really count for anything in this wealth filled Hamptons and it would mean throwing Daniel under the bus. I don't think she would have done it. After all she didn't leak Emily's fake pregnancy to the press
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Jan 22, 2014
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Jan 21, 2014
that shows that she is a mean woman. I mean its not Sara's fault - so if she would just say : look darling you should leave cause Daniel shot me - in a really nice girl talk she would have left. But she wanted to mess with her family.. not really nice
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Jan 21, 2014
Of course she's not a nice girl! She's been planning a huge revenge against the Graysons for 3 seasons! None of the characters are really nice in this show and that's what's fun about it :p
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Apr 20, 2014
We need someone we can root for.
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Jan 22, 2014
no I know but they deserve it...Sara doesnt
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Jan 22, 2014
I don't think Sara was as kind as she looked. She did fool around with Daniel when everything was still "going well" between him and Emily
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Jan 20, 2014
Very nice post. Emily is both physically and mentally weak a.t.m, I don't think she's acting that out about that with Daniel. The only ones left, that I can see Emily kick ass is a fight with Aiden or Niko,the rest of the characters are too ordinary haha. The Emily/Conrad part makes better sense, I hope it was about that - I haven't read better suggestions. Next episode hold be fun. I want to see the old Victoria and the old Emily again. Could her blackouts be linked to Niko ( she tried to pump her with something once)
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Jan 21, 2014
She may be weak for now but she's gonna get back in shape pretty quickly i guess :)
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Jan 20, 2014
I think I said it last week. J.Bowman = Bad actor. I dont buy it. The story could develop into this little fights between them but the guy has to get better at acting.
Sarah is NOT an intellectual woman. HOW would she even talk to a guy that ruined her life? And now she's being used again to make Emily mad and she just goes with it? DUMB!
I think Vicky's story is bullcrap.
WTF? With Emily's balckouts? Has she finally gone mental?
Emily+Conrad = ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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Jan 20, 2014
I don't know but Victoria's reaction at the bar was touching, typical of a woman who returns to see her tormentor.
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Jan 20, 2014
Well that's Revenge at its best!
I really love what they did with "outing" Emily in the last episode. It breathed much needed fresh air into the the whole thing!
No, really. I started watching Revenge for the cheap thrills and turns and twists and this is all I need from it.

P.S. I am honestly enjoying Emily's bitchiness a little too much. I mean I literally giggled when the whole Sara's mother thing happened. I also LOVE this new hate-hate relationship between her and Daniel.
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Jan 20, 2014
I just saw the preview. New revengenda: kill them all. Finally.
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Jan 20, 2014
I think it is important to note that this is the firts time Emily is alone. Aiden being with Niko must have devastated her. I felt her pain. Daniel, in the past, was her puppy chasing after her and serving her purpose. Now he is her biggest enemy. Jack has moved on. It only angers me that her one and only true friend, Nolan, does not get the recognition he deserves. He is the only one she has.
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Jan 21, 2014
well she slowly realizes that Revenge is a bad thing for friendships and relationships. Aiden wanted to live with her, she wanted to play revenge.... well tough s*** ;)
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Jan 20, 2014
...and that's when her blackouts began (Niko and Aiden's relationship). Nolan definitely deserve more recognition, hope Emily will confide in him much more.
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Jan 20, 2014
I thought about that dynamic too actually just forgot to mention it. I like how both her lovers, real and fake, have abandoned her. She really doesn't have anyone to turn to except for Nolan at this point. Now that she knows about Niko and Aiden she won't be able to confide in her...Jack is busy with Frenchie fwiw and that leaves just Em and Nolan.
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Jan 20, 2014
I like how totally outclassed Daniel is. He is firing his own staff. Emily writes out a fat check
Emily 1 Daniel 0
Daniel sleeps with Sarah. Emily just laughs and just thinks, more fuel to burn Daniel.
Emily 2 Daniel 0
Emily calls mummy. Sarah leaves with tail between her legs. (The whole calling mummy is an excellent metaphor of how outclassed Daniel is)
Emily 3 Daniel 0
Emily sleeping With Conrad (If that happened and comes out.)
Emily 10 Daniel 1 (loosing dignity that way cost points.)
Not sure how to tally the points of Daniel grabbing Emily and calling it a blessing he sterilized her as he needed to be drunk to do that which in my eyes still made it a win for Emily.
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Jan 20, 2014
Wow, this episode was crazy! And now we have to wait till march for the next episode? Damn... Was I the only one thinking that Emily's memory loss/blackouts had something to do with her therapist? That maybe he on purpose provided her 'wrong' medication? Victoria mentioned that she uses the same therapist as Emily, and something tells me that's not a coincidence.
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Jan 20, 2014
I'm enjoying this a lot more now that Emily has shown her true colours to Danny boy. Not sure about this memory loss thing though, I did think maybe Niko had something to do with it, being the one with the medical skillz., but I'm not so sure anymore.
A join effort by Conrad and Lydia maybe?
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Jan 20, 2014
I don't want to disturb anyone, but can anyone tell me what is the plan now, for.. you know... revenge?
is she simply going to live her whole life making Daniel miserable?
On a serious note: Feel free to disagree, i have nothing against children, but when the fact of not being able to produce children is labeled as: "Not being able to have a family", i get very angry, seems that the partnership between a married couple is undervalued by most women. Having someone to spend your life with? nah, i want your genes to produce my family, you, you are just helping me raise my family you know... That's how i feel as a man, maybe i am way to sensitive about this things.
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Apr 20, 2014
To some of us having biological descendants really matters.
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Jan 20, 2014
I think for the show, the purpose of this whole not being able to have kids thing is such a big deal to Emily because she can't physically pass on her bloodline, and in extension can't pass on her father's bloodline. So basically the Clarke name is dead. Except for Charlotte, but Charlotte is really a Grayson more than a Clarke. But anyway not being able to have kids would probably be one of the most devastating things for a woman, especially one that so desperately wants a family of her own. But I agree with you on the definition of "family" and I'm all for adoption and everything. But for the purpose of the show, I believe that's what they're aiming at.
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Jan 20, 2014
I feel you on this. It's like those guys never heard of adoption or using a surrogate :S
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Jan 20, 2014
Contrary to the opinion in this article, I felt that Bowman's performance was quite gripping in this episode. Daniel was so deranged, so sinister, and so unrecognizable from the man he was just a few episodes ago. He's come a long way. The transformation is astounding and Bowman deserves recognition for that. I was sold on this change in Daniel. The criticism should not be in Bowman's acting. There is a facet in Daniel as a character where there is a infinitesimal shred of a chance for redemption. It was also not long ago when we saw a decent version of Daniel, so clinging to that memory makes it hard for some to believe that he can be evil. The acting is not flawed. The acting is remarkable.
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Jan 21, 2014
I have to partially agree with you. He wasn't that bad but he wasn't as good as you say he was. I found his performance quite mediocre. Few episodes ago Emily/Gabriel's performances were laughable and no one else commented on their acting ... (like when Nolan was supposed to be heartbroken over finding out that Emily was shot, I laughed for about 30 minutes at his "oh no, Emily has been shot" expression/reaction)

the reviewer is just nit-picking in my opinion. the episode was short of perfect.
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Jan 22, 2014
So I guess I was the only one who felt chilled by the "sterilizing you was my gift to the universe" line. Only a first rate actor could deliver that line and get the effect that it did, in my humble opinion. Perhaps Bowman would get more credit if Daniel wasn't such a repulsive character.

I agree with you about this episode. It reminded why I enjoy this show. My fondness for Nolan as a character makes it hard for me to agree with your critique on Gabriel Mann. This cast overall is among the best on network TV. They bring life to the show's overly theatrical dialogue in a way that is fun instead of funny , without the convenience of using coarse language. I could imagine that to be very precise work.
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Jan 21, 2014
I thought that reaction was when he still thought the original plan had gone through and didn't actually realise that she really had been shot? Maybe I got that wrong?
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Jan 21, 2014
in both situations, when he was pretending with Patrick and when he found out for real ... it was painful to watch.
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Jan 21, 2014
Hi chris! Well nobody complaints because we love Nolan. Even through bad acting, bad storyline or the eventual bad attire. He is too lovely for us to judge. <3
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Jan 20, 2014
Are you Josh Bowman?
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Jan 21, 2014
He's too busy filming this show and spending time with Emily VanCamp to be worrying about what this review says about him. I said something nice about his performance. It's not a big deal. The internet is a cruel and mindless place where I as one single common viewer can add a positive comment if I want to. You wish I was Josh Bowman, don't you? Sorry to disappoint.
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Jan 21, 2014
Jaja, no! I dont care, but i thought it would be hilarious and totally plausible.
I dont think anybody in this show is an amazing actor, mostly because it would be impossible to take them seriously with such silly storylines. But even in the most ridiculous scenes, Madeleine Stowe always shines. Her performance may not be always believable, but damn it is faboulous. Josh Bowman, not so much.
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Jan 20, 2014
I loved the way Margaux sold Daniel out. She didnt even blink. That boy really is useless.

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Jan 20, 2014
Daafuuq was all this about?!?! Emily having blackouts? Shtuping Conrad? Really? Patrick abstract expresionist? Really? Conrads first wife? Idk. I actually watched La Madrastra from begining to end, and this seems way over the top.
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Jan 20, 2014
I don't remember and I don't know which past ep to look up for this, but how much do Nolan and Emily know about Takeda's death? Does Nolan know Aiden killed him? Because their conversation about the Moscow guy was kinda loaded.
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Jan 20, 2014
Nolan knows but Emily doesn't, she would have never forgiven Aiden for that. That's why Nolan told Aiden he helped him hide his own guilt.
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Jan 20, 2014
Emily does know Aiden killed Takeda. She saw the blood on his shirt/arm and worked it out. They fought about it if I remember rightly but Aiden told him he had no choice, it was kill or be killed. Nolan also knows
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Jan 21, 2014
I can remember that Emily knows but I didnt know that Nolan knew ;)
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Jan 20, 2014
oh I didn't remember that ;)
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Jan 20, 2014
"Aiden told her that he had no choice.."
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Jan 20, 2014
I dont know either, but in season 2 finale they find Takeda Emily says he had an honorable death, fighting like a samurai. then they are chasing that "cable guy" i dont remember exactly why.
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Jan 20, 2014
Yes, finally annoying Sara (and useless) is out of the picture...srsly, Daniel is such a douche but he is even more a loser cos he clearly ain't good at revenge...so high school...also yeah, BAD ACTING from Josh...like very bad...srsly, badd!!!!!!!!!

What is up with Emily's black-outs...and please don't tell me she and ew gross barf Conrad happened.....ew gross yuck!
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Jan 20, 2014
Finally Sara is out of the picture. For good hopefully.
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Jan 20, 2014
I didn't find the Victoria storyline particularly believable. I think she made the whole thing up to keep controlling interest on Patrick and I just don't like HIM at all! Something about their relationship strikes me as phony. Maybe I am seeing some of what Kaitlin described *shrugs*

Oh yeah Frenchie! I forgot about that too. I largely ignore that storyline which is why I didn't comment on it before. Agreed...Jack..Seriously? Idk wtf is going on with that whole thing. I don't like her either. She's a little too goody two shoes to be in the mix. All of her integrity and principles make her seem ridiculous when put against the other characters imho. She's just not interesting.at.all.

Glad Sara is gone but i don't think she's really gone for good. I don't share the opinion that she deserves better than Daniel, I didn't like her either LOL! She always seemed like a better memory than character...meaning she should have stayed as the hit and run victim from his past. What kind of simple bitch does what she does and then gets caught in the bed and says she's not low rent? Pfft. ANYWAY

I DO like Niko! I think that given time, she and Nolan could develop a friendship. I cannot wait for her to find out it was Aiden who killed her dad. I want her to peel his skin LOL
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Jan 20, 2014
Yeah Niko needs to peel him off like a mango!
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Jan 20, 2014
True. Niko is interesting character, she has a mysterious noir-ish of sort. I hope the writers don't get lost with her like they did with the FauxAmanda at the end of season1.
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Jan 20, 2014
I don't get. Someone help me. Who was the guy that teenager Victoria shot at the season2? Patrick's father?
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Jan 20, 2014
That was just some guy her mom was seeing at the time, I don't think it was her mom's husband or anything, but just a boyfriend. I can't remember if Victoria shot him or if her mom did, but I know Victoria took the blame because she was 16 and the police would just put her in a psych ward or whatever instead of arresting her.
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Jan 20, 2014
Her mom shot hom and blamed Vicky
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Jan 20, 2014
I want to touch on what you said about Sara finally "wising up" and leaving Daniel. Every time Sara pops up on my screen the only thing that runs through my head is Kanye West's "I ain't saying she a gold digger, but she ain't messing with no broke." And that's exactly what Sara is, a gold digger. And the only reason she left Daniel was because she feared of losing her mother. So I guess if you mean she "wised up" by realizing her own mom is a little more important than her really rich/married/ex that crushed her spine and ruined her life, then yeah I guess she did. And when Sara called herself trash and Emily just kind of looked at her like "well yeah that's exactly what I think", that was just great. And did anyone notice (or not) that there was no Charlotte this week, at all. I'm not a huge Charlotte fan, but I would like to see where she stands on the Daniel vs. Emily war. If Emily could somehow turn Charlotte on Daniel that would be fantastic! And the Emily blackouts are weird, and her waking up in Conrad's place was weird, but I'm interested to see where that goes and what happens with it. If they become a thing I declare their official 'ship name be Conily, because Emrad just sounds strange. And I'm still for Aiden and Emily even though this Niko thing is getting a little complicated, so there's that. And I really don't care about Patrick, although I was so happy that he burnt down the gallery. I've been waiting for that day since Victoria blackmailed her way into owning it. And I'm still waiting for Mason Treadwell's return too. Did everyone just forget about him? Anyway...This Emily and Daniel war should be fun to watch and I can't wait to see how it plays out. I love watching them fight on the show because they're a real-life couple and I just think it's entertaining for some reason. Can't wait until March to see how this all comes together. Hopefully the 10 pm time slot will bring a nice change with the darker story lines.
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Jan 20, 2014
I vote for Emicon. To remind us of the time this show was about international corporations engaging in terrorist activities.
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Jan 20, 2014
I noticed a lack of Charlotte this week! I didn't like her before Declan died but I started to kinda like her a little after. I think she's off crying somewhere with guilt because she's the one that brought Simple Sara back into Daniel's life.

I like the turn Daniel's character has made to the dark side but I would like it better if he were a better actor.
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Jan 20, 2014
Damn this episode was both awesome, Emily acting all Victoria- like, and weird Emily waking up at Conrad's bed.
Speaking from sort of experience I know people who married after meeting someone for 6 months. I found it really stupid (yeah sorry people who have done it but six months? really?) but it happens.
And Sarah is out of the picture good for her, she deserves better (I think we really didn't get to know her)
Nolan delivering justice was kinda nice... even if it won't work out cause now Nico knows who really murdered her father.
So what's the deal with Emily? double personality? mental trauma? tumor? she has an alien parasyte?
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Jan 20, 2014
Emily sleeping with Conrad, SERIOUSLY???? It sucks!! Blacking out is one thing but waking up in Condrad's bed? I think the writers are pushing too much to keep attention to the show. I think there is noo need for this at all. The new character Nico is also artificial.
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Jan 20, 2014
I had wondered if Emily and Conrad were coming up with a scheme against Daniel/
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Jan 21, 2014
They will do that according to next episode preview but I think Emily can plan much better without Conrad.
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Jan 21, 2014
I think it will be really interesting to see Emily and Conrad scheming together, quite ironic really. Conrad has always had a soft spot for Emily. But he doesn't know he would be working with his worst enemy!
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Jan 20, 2014
I doubt very much if Emily actually "slept" with Conrad. I'm guessing she just walked into his bedroom in one of her blackout episodes and Conrad, being Conrad, took advantage of the situation and put her in his bed and then tried to pretend something had happened between them.
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Jan 21, 2014
Well It is also possible but what's in it for Conrad? And if he did so why wasn't Emily naked ?
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Jan 21, 2014
Conrad will always try to use any situation to his advantage. Maybe he thinks he can blackmail Emily by holding this over her?
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Jan 20, 2014
Best episode this season. Dark, twisted, and incredibly entertaining.

Bravo!
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Jan 20, 2014
Did anyone watch United States of Tara? This really reminded me of that. I LOVED that show. In a way though, Emily always had a split personality only now she has no idea what she's doing. I think when things get too serious and too emotional for her she blacks out. A more dramatic side of "Me, Myself and Irene"... Advanced delusionary schizophrenia with involuntary narcissistic rage anyone?

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