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Revenge "Identity" Review: Ready Player One

Revenge S02E19: "Identity"

Is there anything more satisfying than Emily Thorne wielding her red Sharpie? I didn't think so, until she let Nolan Leslie (!!!) Ross virtually do the honors. Revenge: There's an app for that.

What poetic justice: After finally exposing the Falc0ln's true identity to the world, Nolan obscured her face again with crimson "X."

Padma's death didn't break Nolan after all—in fact, he channeled his grief and anger, Emily Thorne-style, resolving to make the Falc0n pay for everything she'd done.  

She didn't have a dragon tattoo, but the ruthless hacker was most certainly a girl: Edith Lee, a computer consultant who'd worked for the Graysons ever since she was a youngster.


"I've got to give her props for that Victor/Victoria gag," deadpanned Nolan. "No wonder no one could find shim." 

...except for the boy genius, of course. And now he's about to be reinstated as sole owner of Nolcorp—thanks to a certain mama grizzly.

"Identity" centered on Victoria Grayson's secret firstborn son, Patrick—whom the Falc0n was essentially erasing by altering the hospital's maternity records. (Part of Conrad's spring skeleton cleaning required proof that his wife terminated her first pregnancy.)

Realizing that the Falc0n's weakness was hubris, Nolan successfully blew "his" motherboard by exposing the forgery. The bird of prey took the bait and challenged Nolan to DYT, or defend your title—in his case, a Street Fighter world record at a Brooklyn arcade.

The record still stands, and it was game over for Edith. Nolan (a.k.a. Lord Zoltan) ruined her reputation by outing her as the Falc0n—on the Internet and to the FBI, who arrested her at the arcade.

NolEm killed two birds with one stone, breaking the baby news to Nightline correspondent Juju Chang during a live interview with gubernatorial candidate Grayson and his wife. To Conrad's horror, Victoria confessed what we'd already seen in a flashback: that after caring for Patrick as his "nanny," she'd abandoned him to accept a scholarship to an art academy in Paris.

After the interview—during which Emily also batted her eyelashes at Daniel—Victoria crashed Nolan's solo victory party to ask for his help in finding Patrick. (His payment? Nolcorp!)

Unfortunately, Victoria was about to lose her other son—again—to Emily. After pressuring her to DTR on national TV, Daniel upped his game by returning Em's engagement ring. And while Emily may not have Victoria's blessing, she does have Aiden's: "Marry the son of a bitch and take them down once and for all," he said when she promised they'd end up together. (Aiden neglected to tell his secret girlfriend that Takeda was back in town, and that he himself was retiring from the revenge business.)

As usual, the episode's thrilling intrigue was brought to a screeching halt by the Stowaway Sad Sacks. Jack Porter followed Conrad to a clandestine meeting with his the governor's wife, identified by his aggrieved ally Ashley… who promptly used Jack's incriminating photo to force Conrad to rehire her.

Meanwhile, Declan spent the evening trying to figure out what "qwerty" spells on his keyboard. Charlotte had promised to help him write a college application essay, but she ditched him to make out with Regina—the girl she punched in the face in the previous episode—for the paparazzi.

Connor Paolo must've been devastated to find himself back in the middle of a bad episode of Gossip Girl. I don't care if Charlotte and Declan go to NYU or Harvard or hell, as long as the cameras don't follow them there.



QUESTIONS


1. If Revenge isn't renewed for a third season, should exiting showrunner Mike Kelley develop a Nolan Leslie Ross spinoff?

2. How'd you like the Ready Player One-Falc0n reveal? Do you wish the cyberpunk was someone we already knew instead?

3. Do you believe Aiden will survive Season 2? If so, who do you think will be killed off instead?

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Why??? is Nolan getting blame for everything? and who is Patrick?
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1: YES!!!
2: Meh. Thought it was someone we already knew
3. God I hope he doesnt survive, he is the worst. #TeamDaniel
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1. Would a Nolan Ross spinoff be interesting? I mean he's a great character but one that is constantly bouncing off the other characters. Could he stand on his own? Frasier was able to do it off Cheers BUT Joey couldn't do it off Friends. Sometimes losing the people you have on camera chemistry with makes you seem kinda dull.
2. Nah. They have to introduce a couple new characters. I didn't think it was someone we had already met. I also though it might've been a girl.
3. No I don't think he'll survive. But if he does survive I'm thinking it's time to kill off Jack. He's story isn't that interesting anymore and now he's all angry and I just don't care for it. It would make sense to have the Graysons kill him for getting too close to outing them. It will also make Emily rethink her whole Revenge plan which the writers seem to like doing.
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personally I love that there are three different love interests for Emily ,... with Jack comes the opportunity of a boring mediocre life which may sound nice after the life she's had,... with Aiden comes the promise of her revenge fulfilled and the cycle completed,... with Daniel comes the possibility of living as Emily, this new character which is more interesting and sophisticated,... I kinda want her with Daniel because I want her to stay as Emily ,...
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The moment they let us hear the voice of the Falcon, even with the masked sound, I knew it was a woman. It's the oldest trick in tv-shows. They think we are not smart and would be surprised by that.
Well, it wasn't to me!
One thing was wrong, though. The actress playing the falcon, didn't look much older than well 24. So how old was she when they used her to put Emily's father in jail?
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far eastern skin,... never trust it to guess their age,... ;))))
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Just 2 words: Nolan Ross!
If there is a reason I kept on watching Revenge this season, when it seemed to be sinking with the whole conspiracy theory, it was HIM! And yesterday he didn't disappoint me! He was on the top of his game!

Moreover writers seem to have been reading our comments about the Initiative and move back the story to its origins, Amanda's revenge against the Graysons. I really feel we are back on the game again and I am looking forward to the next episode ( a feeling I hadn't had in a long time when it comes to Revenge).
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1. Don't say such a thing! Of course they have to have a third season!

2. I didn't really care who it was. I'm just glad they didn't drag it out. I often love how they drag stuff out, but this one time I'm happy the sharpie got screen time. (Of course I shouldn't say that - you never know who may come back in this show)

3. Do I believe he will survive? Don't know. Do I want him to survive? No! Aiden + Emily equals boring.
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Patrick... Bateman, right? Oh pleeeze let it be an 80's serial killer who's super into Huey Lewis!! That's all I want, Revenge. It wouldn't be the most ridiculous thing that's happened.

Also- plot holes. Babies fly free! This was especially so in the lax 70's, when your baby could fly free, smoke on the plane, and have it's bottle topped off with some cheap in-flight whiskey. Though maybe young, perfectly-enunciating Victoria was secretly pretty jazzed to be rid of young Bateman and was making up excuses to dump him with some nuns. I don't know her life.

Jack continues to be the worst. Hopefully his ineptitude gets him killed pretty quick, or else he finds out Emily's secret (thisonethisone!). If they drag out this Detective Clouseau shit any longer I'm just going to start screaming wordlessly at the TV every time his butthurt expression appears. You've been warned, Revenge.
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I'm catching up on my Revenge. And yes I thought the same thing babies fly for free and tou may only pay for the insurance something she could do if she wanted.
So... what about the Japonese master speaking English to Daniel. He didn't seem surprised at all.
Bless Victoria botox face! But when she was exposed on live TV (why was it live???? That's just darn stupid) How can this woman sleep at night. With a knife under her pillow!
Best line of the episode: "I really show watched more television!"
Declan XOXO... Get your own damn show. And Jack, you stupid man. How can't he not see with all the journals he said he read that Emily is on his side. It's too short for her anyway ;)
Lastly Em bed hopping skills (so envious). Ashley threathning the Graysons that's what you end up dead.
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Even when babies fly free,... they still need a ticket,...
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I don't care if Charlotte and Declan go to NYU or Harvard or hell, as long as the cameras don't follow them there. <------- This! That is all.
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I loved this show from de begining but now... I think the writters don't know what to do anymore :(

I love Emily's character, but the vengeful Emily, not the "sentimental" one. And poor Nolan.. evrything it's about Emily.
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I love Emily and Nolan's relationship,... her big bro,... they really convey the sense of family to me
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Not with this episode. Emily totally helped him get the Falcon even though it came in quite handy for her self.
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I hope Aiden does not get killed off. I was majorly upset that Amanda got killed off. I was surprised by her death and felt that it was a horrible idea to get rid of her since her character did a lot for the show plot and Emily and there is a void without her there.
If Aiden were to be killed off, then that would be another major support beam of Emily's to fall and it will create another void, not as big as Amanda's since her helping often messed things up and it would be back to just Emily and Nolan on her team.

I like the idea of it being Takeda to go down. Its an interesting concept and who knows how many other students of his might come out of the woodwork because of it.

Jack just needs better plot. With Amanda's death, I had hoped that it could at least give Jack some better character but so far he hasn't done that much more. Hope he will soon.

Charlotte and Declan are totally useless. Every so often it looks like Charlotte's plot might get interesting (like taking on the Clark name) but every time nothing comes of it. If they don't get worthwhile plot soon then they should just go off to college far away only to be seen from on holiday episodes if that.

I was disappointed in the Falcon revel. Hopefully it was a ploy/test of some kind because otherwise it felt like a waste that they got rid of her so fast. Maybe she will become a bigger player in season 3? Possibly as a new love interest for Nolan since Padma truly and utterly sucked and we I have no idea what happened to that other guy whose job she had taken who had shown some plot promise.

Their hacking lately has been more ridiculous than before.
And I was surprised that Nolan did not play ChungLi an was Ryu. It would have been cool if he was E.Honda.

And if Kelly has problems writing beyond 13eps (and yes this season has dragged) then he should have just split the season into two and treat it as two separate seasons.

So any predictions to which season will it be when team Emily (Nolan and Aiden) and team Graysons will reveal their cards to each other and team up against the initiative? season 4? or will it be slow at first and only Victoria or Conrad finds out first?

Nolan can't have a spinoff, he is too central to the plot and Emily. Amanda could have but alas.


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I don't know about important stuff, but did you see Nolans shoes? They were FABOLOUS,
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1. Yes. It should just be him and a new girlfriend actually destroying the lives of a bunch of people, with a new group of people to destroy each season, so that it doesn't seem like everything it being really drawn out, to the extent that most of the time he's just hanging out with his hacker friends, which actually be really entertaining to watch. So really, anything would be great if he had his own show.

2. I actually felt like that reveal was too quick and easy, especially considering all the buildup we've had with that character. I even expected that girl to not actually be the Falcon, and that she was just speaking for the actual hacker mastermind. I also was hoping that the Falcon was going to be Victoria's mysterious son, or at least someone that we've seen before. Even if the Falcon turned out to be Marco, which actually doesn't make that much sense, I think it would have been a better reveal than we got.

3. Aiden certainly seems like the most likely candidate to die, especially since Amanda currently has three romantic interests (though Jack is currently giving her a cold shoulder for the moment, but this could easily change in a few seconds), so killing off one of them should still leave her with more than most people have. He's also on the outskirts of all the characters, since other than his position within Grayson Global and subsequent relationship with Daniel, he's really only tied to Amanda in any significant way. Therefore, killing him off wouldn't shake up the character composition and balance all that much, so it would certainly be one of the easier characters for the writers to kill off.

However, if he does end up dying, I think that at least one of the other main characters should die as well, or at least have something very damaging happen to them. Because otherwise the only main character (starring character, that is) to be killed off will have been a man who first appeared in this season, which means that all the original starring characters will have stuck around. And considering the stakes that this show tries to have, they're actually have to kill off one of these original main characters to attain them.
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For the most part, I thought this was an excellent episode that brought back a lot of the actual revenge elements of the show that we've been missing for a while. However, one of the big stories of this episode really got under my skin, in that for once something on this show actually made literally no sense whatsoever. Because while I realize that this show has, time and time again, been pretty ridiculous and had many of its characters do crazy things, there has always been some reasoning, however slim, to everything that these people do. However, in this episode, everything about what Charlotte did didn't make any sense, at all, in any way, to the extent that not even Tyler (yeah, remember that guy) would have behaved as crazily as she did.

I am referring here, of course, to Charlotte's decision to 1. suddenly become best friends with a girl that kinda had her life ruined by her, 2. Ditch a really important meeting that might actually determine a large part of her future, 3. Ditch doing something really important with Declan, her boyfriend who has stood by her side (while admittedly casting her aside every once in a while) through a tremendous amount of crazy messed up stuff, so that she could randomly party with said new best friend, 4. Not even tell Declan that she was going to ditch him, only remembering that he existed when he called her, 5. Lie to Declan about what she was doing, saying that she was at her parents' house, 6. Go to a public with her random new best friend and smile for the tabloids, even though she must have known that a. her parents would see it on the news, and more importantly b. Declan would see it on the news and know she was lying, and finally 7. randomly engage in a kiss with this girl whose life she kinda ruined, for the sole purpose of "putting on a show" for the tabloids, even though she must have known that everyone important to her would see this kiss, and more importantly, this was an extremely public display of cheating on Declan.

If you feel like that last paragraph was a bit too long, and you're looking for an apology, then you should seriously look to the writers for one, because what I just wrote out are only the main issues that didn't make sense with the randomly partying Charlotte storyline. I still have hard time believing that what I saw actually happened, that the show would actually have a long, drawn out scene like that which the writers must know holds so many flaws, that even the most die-hard fan of the show probably cringed a little last night. I mean, it would have been a stretch, though an acceptable one, if Charlotte had done anything friendly with that girl (if you've forgotten, Charlotte made public sealed records about that one girl having a sexual relationship with one of her former teachers, which completely ruined her reputation at the school that she still goes to). And yet, for some reason, Charlotte (all while completely sober), just decided to skip out on a very important meeting that she had supposedly prepared a lot for, which presumably had something of a sway over whether or not she'd get into Harvard. Again, this alone would have been enough to accuse the writers of awkwardly transitioning their characters into new storylines with very little justification.

But then they went a step further, having her abandon Declan, who really needed her help to write his admittance essay (which again has huge implications on he future), without even having her remember to call him to cancel. Now, if they were planning on going on a date, then maybe I would have accepted this as believable, albeit barely, even if this date was very important to Declan. But this is his future we're talking about, and hers for that matter. Even so, maybe I would have believed her ditching Declan to go party, even though in the process she was basically stabbing their dream futures in the back, if it weren't for that kiss. I mean, Charlotte actually had a bit of a monologue were she walked that girl (I'm not even going to bother to look up her name, because I hope for the show's sake she ties horribly in the next episode, so that maybe I'll forgive them) through the many reasons why she doesn't like to party and live it up in public. And then there's the fact that she's still in a serious relationship with Delcan (though after this episode, probably not so much), so kissing anyone else should be something that she has to struggle with internally, not just do on a whim. Not to mention the fact that kissing another person in public, and in this case a girl that she should mutually hate for that matter, would normally be something that she would shy away from, not just, again, jump right into, especially when the reason given to her is to "give them a show," which is the same justification that gets girls unintentionally into certain independent adult films.

But, again, the worst part of that situation is that some part of her must have known that, if she were to be filmed kissing a girl in public by the paparazzi, then it would get out there fast, and at some point (if not immediately, this being the show that it is, seriously, these characters seem to have a TV tuned to the news, with the volume at a level where they can barely hear it yet immediately know to turn it up at relevant points, everywhere they go, or at least when there's going to be a news story that affects them. They don't even bother to have someone else tell them to turn up the volume anymore) Declan and her family would find out about it. I'm actually sorry for the writers, because they're going to have try and have her explain why she did all of those things, unless they pull a (spoilers for The Vampire Diaries Season 4) TVD genocide thing and not have anyone talk about how stupid what she did was.

So yeah, this episode had a lot of great things in it, but all of them were sullied by this horrendous storyline. In the past, this show has had Charlotte go in and out of using drugs, it's had Declan go from being the most annoying person ever to actually being responsible and practically run the bar, and it's had the two of them go in and out of their romance almost as much as you'd expect them walk through their bedroom doors, though you never really see it on screen. The writers have had these two come together and break apart for some really strange reasons, like that recent time when Charlotte basically flirted with Amanda's foster brother and for her own boyfriend for a while, and Declan got jealous. Or that one time when Declan became friends with that one girl, and Charlotte got jealous so she ruined that one girl's life, and now both of them are kissing in public...yeah.

But this monstrosity of contrived tension and conflict really takes the cake, before breaking it to pieces with a sledgehammer and magically putting it back together again with scotch tape, crocodile tears, and the dreams of reality show stars. Up until now, I've the writers have somewhat been able to reconcile all the crazy, stupid, and seemingly meaningless things that people do on this show, but this series of sordid scenes is entirely incomprehensible, to the extent that I'm starting to suspect that Charlotte actually has an evil twin, which would make what she did sort of make sense, but not really. Anyway, I can only hope that a lot of people tell her how stupid she was in the next episode. Because that would almost make what happened worth it. Almost.
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"1. suddenly become best friends with a girl that kinda had her life ruined by her,"

I'm not sure what you mean? Care to explain further? Did, I miss an episode or something, when did that girl ruin Charlotte's life?

"2. Ditch a really important meeting that might actually determine a large part of her future,"

She is still young, she can go to another meeting no? <

"3. Ditch doing something really important with Declan, her boyfriend who has stood by her side (while admittedly casting her aside every once in a while) through a tremendous amount of crazy messed up stuff, so that she could randomly party with said new best friend,"

Since when does the world revolve around your boyfriend/girlfriend? Given she hasn't had any time to party, she went out for ONE NIGHT. I see nothing wrong with that.

"4. Not even tell Declan that she was going to ditch him, only remembering that he existed when he called her,"

Again, she is allowed to think about other than her boyfriend? No? She said she will help him nevertheless....

"5. Lie to Declan about what she was doing, saying that she was at her parents' house,"

Declan is not God. lol < May be she had a reason to lie? We don't know the full story.

"6. Go to a public with her random new best friend and smile for the tabloids, even though she must have known that a. her parents would see it on the news, and more importantly b. Declan would see it on the news and know she was lying, and finally"

That's the whole point, she did it to piss off her parents/prove to the world that she does not want to be a Grayson anymore.

"7. randomly engage in a kiss with this girl whose life she kinda ruined, for the sole purpose of "putting on a show" for the tabloids, even though she must have known that everyone important to her would see this kiss, and more importantly, this was an extremely public display of cheating on Declan."

Okay, hear me out. It's only a kiss, and she did it for a several reasons. More importantly to tell the world that she doesn't want to be considered a Grayson anymore. And also I think she just wanted to go out for once and have fun.
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1. I see what you're saying about a few of these things, but I still think that this is a lot more serious/unrealistic than you're taking it. First of all, I did say this at some point in my post (which I realize is lengthy so I'm not all that surprised that you missed it) but it was actually Charlotte who sort-of ruined the other girl's life (that sentence was badly worded, so I can see why you got it the other way round). To refresh your memory, previously in this season Charlotte and Declan weren't doing so good, and Declan was becoming friends--possibly going to be more than friends--with that girl, and Charlotte wasn't very happy about this.

So, to humiliate this girl, Charlotte dug into the girl's past and found that she'd had a previous sexual relationship with a former teacher of hers (the records had been sealed by a court order). She then proceeded to spread this information around the entire school, which basically humiliated that girl, ruined her relationship with Declan, made her a laughing stock of the entire school, and pretty much ruined her reputation. Granted, her life wasn't ruined by Charlotte, but it is still highly unlikely that they would suddenly, and without any transition whatsoever, want to even hang out with each other, much less go clubbing.

2. As to your second point, I agree that missing that one meeting doesn't limit her from going to Harvard, and in a worst case scenario her parents could pretty much bride her way in. There are also other meetings for her to go to, granted. However, going to that meeting is something she prepared for, and it is something that was important to her. And while I could see her blowing it off for several reasons, hanging out with a girl whose life she ruined, and whom she should mutually hate, isn't one of them.

3. While I agree that the world doesn't revolve around your boyfriend/girlfriend, these people usually tend to be fairly important parts of people's lives. And while I have no idea what your own situation is in that department, in most cases it's important to honor commitments that you have with your significant other. Now, as I said in my post, I could see Charlotte ditching Declan to go party (though not with that girl) if they had just planned on going out on a date. However, she was supposed to help Declan write his college acceptance essay, and while it wasn't due that night so she could help him out at a later date, it is a pretty important thing to miss. So while you're write in saying that she went out for one night, she bailed on her boyfriend to do so, and she handled everything in a very bad way.

4. Which brings me to your fourth point. Of course Charlotte is allowed to think about herself, and forget about her boyfriend from time to time, but it is a universal courtesy to notify anyone when your plans change, and you won't be able to make a previously scheduled meeting, and this an even more important thing to get right with boyfriend/girlfriend. And sure, she did say that she'll help him another time, but she still forgot about her plans with him, and wouldn't have talked to him at all if he hadn't called her. I'm not saying that Charlotte did a terrible thing here or anything, she just broke a common courtesy, something that she normally wouldn't do. And since she was sober, you would have expected her to at least call Declan and cancel on him. But yeah, you're right, it was an honest mistake on her part to not notify him of the change. She didn't do anything bad, right? It's not like she lied to him...

5. Now, here's where Charlotte's behavior moves from already unlikely (remember who she's having an impromptu clubbing night with), to what-is-going-on-in-this-girl's-head crazy. Okay, Declan isn't God, great. You're right, he's not some crazy important guy that you should never lie to. But Charlotte didn't have a good reason to lie to him at all. Because unless there was some backstory that this episode choose not to even allude to, in which it was suddenly really important for Charlotte to go clubbing with that girl and not let anyone know about it, we do know the full story. Charlotte was going to go to a meeting with a college representative, she ran into that girl, the girl proposed they go clubbing to blow off some steam, Charlotte said "why not" (so many reasons why not), they arrived at the club, Declan called and she realized she had forgotten to cancel their plans, and then she lied to him.

It's pretty clear that the only reason she lied was so that she didn't have to explain why she was going clubbing with that girl, of all girls, instead of helping him with his college essay. And that's not a good reason for her to lie. But I guess it was a good thing for her that she did lie to him, because if she told the truth it would have sounded like this: "Oh, hey Declan, you know that girl who I humiliated by leaking her past illegal sex activities to the school? Yeah, well I just ran into her today and, though you'd think she and I would hate each other for life, we hit it off real well and now we're going clubbing. So yeah, sorry I didn't tell you earlier, but I can't help you with your college essay tonight because I just want one night of fun with a girl, who again, should really hate me.

All of that aside, you really shouldn't lie to your boyfriend/girlfriend, not unless you actually have a good reason for doing so. And not wanting to help them with something important, just so that you can let loose and have fun, isn't a good reason.

6. Yeah, you're right, she probably wanted to piss off her parents a little. But the point I was really getting at there is that she just told her Declan that she was at her parents' house. So smiling for the cameras isn't really a good idea, since her picture could get in the papers and he'd find out. Now, before you point out that she probably just got carried away in the situation, keep in mind that a. she is completely sober during all of this, and b. the girl she's smiling next to should be just about the last person she'd want to be photographed with.

7. Okay, I heard you out, it was only a kiss. Usually I'd agree with you that one little kiss is harmless. But this is one of those situations where "just one kiss" really isn't just one kiss. First of all, she has a boyfriend. Again, I'm not sure what you consider to be a good boyfriend/girlfriend relationship, but from what we've been seeing in this show so far, their relationship is exclusive. I can guarantee you that Declan will consider that kiss to be some form of cheating on Charlotte's part, and I think he's pretty justified in that. I mean, imagine that you've just seen your girlfriend/boyfriend kissing someone on television, and you didn't know that they were going to do that. Can you see why that could be considered cheating? It's not like Declan okayed it or anything, and it really doesn't help that Charlotte lied about the whole situation.

Speaking of which, she lied to Declan about where she was, and then let herself get photographed by the press. One photograph of her could escape Declan's attention for a while, and maybe even forever, but her kissing another girl wouldn't. So even if Charlotte had a good reason to kill a girl in front of the paparazzi, she still has to deal with the consequences of her boyfriend seeing her cheating on him on television. What's more, Charlotte didn't have a good reason to kiss that girl as far as I can see, other than to "put on a show." Now, you said that she had several reasons for doing this--I don't buy that--and you mentioned the two big ones: a. to show that she's not a Grayson anymore, and b. to have fun.

How does kissing a girl in public while being filmed show the world that she doesn't want to be considered a Grayson anymore? Seriously, how does that show everyone that she has disowned herself from her family's name? Daniel went on several drinking/partying binges in his youth and never once did people think: "that man right there is not a Grayson because he just did all of those crazy things." It's not like the Clarke's are well known for kissing people in front of the press, so she's not really affirming her new choice of last name. All that kissing another girl in front of cameras show is that Charlotte can be a wild party girl, and not someone who doesn't belong to her family.

Now, your second reason has a lot more merit than your first: she wanted to go out for once and have fun. Yeah, you're right, that's her reason for doing what she did. But that doesn't take away from the fact that it's a horrible reason for doing all the things she did. In fact, it's not really a reason at all. Okay, so she wants to have fun. Why doesn't she party with someone that she's actually friends with, or at least on good terms with? Why does she need to kiss a girl in front of cameras to have fun herself, or even to show the world that she's having fun?

Ultimately though, the thing that really got me about this whole storyline is that girl that Charlotte did everything with. These two girls should hate each other, really hate each other. They shouldn't be clubbing and kissing with each other after two five-second conversations. Even if Charlotte didn't have a boyfriend, which she does, and even if she didn't have other things to do that day/evening, which she did, one of the last people on Earth she'd want to do anything with is that girl. And yet, merely by saying "Hey, why don't we.." a bunch of times, that girl got Charlotte to spend the entire day with her, culminating in a kiss in front of a bunch of cameras. That is so unrealistic to me that it would be like Tyler suddenly asked Charlotte to go partying and she said yes to everything he said they should do including kiss in front of the paparazzi.

Anyway, I didn't say this in my post but I'm pretty sure that that girl is playing Charlotte, and that she did all of this to ruin her relationship with Declan. If this happens to be the case, then I can completely understand why that one girl wanted to hang out with Charlotte. But why Charlotte went along with everything is a huge mystery to me. And if it does turn out that the girl was playing her, I can only hope that she gets a whole bunch of "How stupid are you"s from everyone, including that one girl. Not even Jack Porter would do anything that stupid.

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Wow! That's a lot of information!

Please read this carefully as I had the courtesy to do so. You are looking at this Charlotte's plot and her character of a morally wrong point. First of all, I don't understand why that is, as many other characters on the show have done a lot worse things than what Charlotte did. Amanda/Victoria and several others have commited not one but many murders, while all Charlotte did is 1. Lie to her boyfriend and 2. Kissed a girl.

Yes, to some people that is morally wrong, but in the case of the show I don't think it's such a big deal or out of character for Charlotte to do those things. Or to think that she had lost her mind just because she did said things. I did try to belittle some of your points because it's not that big of a deal. Try to understand her -

She is a young girl, she made a new friend, they went out...and they kissed. I don't think the kiss even meant anything for Charlotte. She just used it for her own advantage in order to gain something.

Second, it's just a show so that's why I think the way I did in my first post. That's why I'm not judging her as harshly as you are. Although I have to disagree that they don't like each other.

It's like you picked Charlotte and chose to scrutiny her and treat her unfairly. <

I do respect your opinion, and I do understand where you are coming from though! XD

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Okay, so here's the deal. After spending way too much time tracking down who that girl actually is and what she's done on this show so far, I realized that she wasn't actually the person I thought she was. It turns that that Regina (that's her name) has only been in one episode before (Masquerade) in which she hit it off fairly well with Charlotte.

Now, I did read your post thoroughly and would like to say that, for the most part, I agree with you. The issue I had with what Charlotte did actually had little to do with the immorality of it. Since, as you pointed out, many of the other characters have done much worse on the show, including murder, it would be downright silly to get so worked up over Charlotte doing something so trivial. No, the issue that I had was, what seemed to be at the time, the complete lack of reasoning on Charlotte's part. Because, as with all television shows, it's important that every character do what they do for a reason, even if it's only the desire to have fun. But if people start doing crazy, random things with no discernible justification for these actions, then the show is pretty much lost.

The thing is that I thought Regina was someone who she actually isn't, that she was a different character that showed up back a ways in this season, and then was promptly forgotten. That character is someone that Charlotte should hate for the rest of her life, and that character is someone that she would never go clubbing with, or kiss for that matter.

Now that I have that straightened out, I'm a lot less annoyed about the Charlotte storyline than I was before, because instead of it being absolutely unbelievable, it's merely a bit of a stretch. This is just fine, and after all, this is a show that thrives on these kinds of stretches.

So, in response to what you said, you can forget most of my previous posts, as they were operating under a false belief. Charlotte and that girl don't hate each other, and it's perfectly believable, even likely, that they would go clubbing together, and maybe even kiss. Because hey, she seems to be literally the only friend (other than Declan) that Charlotte has. However, there are still some points about this whole situation that do bug me.

Okay, so as you say, Charlotte makes a new friend, they go out, and they kiss. Sure, that's great. I can completely see why Charlotte would do something like that, even the kiss bit. I also agree that the kiss meant nothing to Charlotte, and we'd both be really surprised if they started dating in the next episode because of the kiss (actually, considering the relationships that have happened on this show...). But here's the thing though. Charlotte did this in public, and she did this in front of cameras. She also did this while she wasn't under the influence of any drugs or alcohol. So, what is her motivation to kiss a girl in front of cameras, after she's just lied to her boyfriend about where she is and what she's doing?

You said that in your last post it was to show the world that she isn't a Grayson. I'm going to disagree with you there, as I disagreed with you in my last post. There's no way that kissing a girl in front of reporters proves that she's split from her family, nor is there any reason that she would think this. No, the only real reason she did it was to have fun, to let loose. She's been spending a long time taking care of a baby and being all responsible, so it's natural that she'd want to show her wild side and go crazy with her only friend that's outside of her world-ish.

So as I said before, I'm going to chalk this up to a lapse of judgment on Charlotte's part. She's young and makes mistakes; this is one of them. A lot of people have made mistakes on this show, and at least she'd not like Jack. But you have to admit, though, that she's going to have a lot to answer for in the next couple of episodes. Not only will she be fielding questions from her parents about her wild display on TV (her dad's running for Governor and this isn't exactly good press), but she'll have to explain to Declan why she 1. ditched helping him write his paper, 2. Didn't tell him that she wasn't going to show, 3. Lied to him about what she was doing, and 4. kissing another girl in public in front of the paparazzi.

While we both agree that this is a TV show, and isn't real life, so you don't have to hold these characters to as high as a standard as you would real people, I do think that when characters don't have good motivations for what they do, then it makes the show just that much worse. In this particular case, you can all but see the hand of the writers deciding to abruptly change Declan and Charlotte's relationship to "we're responsible and sadly the only couple you'd want to have take care of this baby," to "our relationship is on the rocks and we'll probably be breaking up soon."

I personally get frustrated when this happens, because it shows a laziness on the part of the writers that there are places they want their characters to go, but they don't have very good ways to get them there. So instead of actually giving Charlotte and Declan a realistic reason to break up, they give Charlotte a random side story where she makes a bunch of bad choices all at once, so that now there's suddenly a good reason for why their relationship is on shaky ground once more.

The other problem I have with this situation is that it's pretty transparent that Regina doesn't mean well for Charlotte. I mean, she got her to kiss her in front of the paparazzi, which will lead to a whole bunch of trouble for Charlotte and her family. This being Revenge, it's already the case that pretty much every random person that has shown up has had some sort of secret agenda, and in this case the random new friend in question is already making quick work of shaking things up. I'm already annoyed about a future point where Charlotte will realize that Regina was manipulating her all along, and she'll think to herself: "how could I not have seen it, it was so obvious." It is obvious, even now at the beginning, and this is one of those cases where she really should be more suspicious than she is.

Finally, I'm actually not putting Charlotte under an unfair amount of scrutiny, since I do the same thing for all the characters. For instance, in the episode where Amanda threw the laptop in the water, I posted a similar comment outlining all the reasons why what she did wasn't a good a idea, and why she should have at least kept the laptop in case it was needed at some point. It's just that, this week, Charlotte was the one person who stuck out as making really bad decisions with not-so-good motivations.
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Following the show's logic up to now, Aiden is obviously the one to be killed in the finale. Now that Amanda is gone and even Padma was killed, Aiden is the only "main" recurring character left. Moreover he has sadly proven to not have too much more to offer to the show, unless something completely unexpected comes out like he's the long lost Patrick or so.
They did the same with Tyler and Amanda and Padma so unless they kill off Takaeda...
I know it was said it will be the death of a main character but, up to now, it never was and honestly the only "interesting" choices would be Jack or maybe Daniel, for if they kill off Declan or Charlotte or even Ashley the audience is simply not going to care.
Sooo given that I do not believe they will kill Jack (true love and all) and it looks still too soon for Daniel, I must conclude it will be Aiden.
Please do not kill Aiden!!!!!
Or at least give him an interesting death and not some ridiculous execution from a disappointed Japanese avenger!
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The Charlotte story is completely ridiculous. She hits the girl and suddenly they're best friends and making out? Seriously? That's just stupid.

The writers should just knock out Jack, Charlotte, Declan, and Ashley in one fell swoop. Would take up the quality of the show exponentially. Jack is a pathetic, whining, useless piece of writing, and the entire Charlotte and Declan story is duller than a sack of potatoes. Ashley just annoys the heck out of me. Will no one ever learn?

The show would improve significantly without them, then hopefully things would finally move forward. Personally I adore Aidan's character, and the introduction of Takeda with his shiftiness should make things interesting. I think he'll make it to the next season, and hopefully if it is renewed the next will be the last season. There's only so long you can keep up on the whole revenge thing in an interesting way.
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Mind if I ask, what about Ashley bothers you?
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How two-faced and incredibly untrustworthy she is? She changes sides more often than her (admittedly awesome) outfits!
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I don't think she is untrustworthy. She is just being used by every other character on the show. She did tell (real) Amanda about the boat, and that someone is trying to kill (fake) Amanda and Jack. So she is loyal to her and still considers her a friend. Same thing can't be said for Amanda, she has been using Ashley from the day they first met.

She is trying to help Jack now, she is trying to do the right thing. I don't get the hate for Ashley.
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You have an odd definition of loyal. She has never been loyal to anyone, and she certainly turned on Emily in the first season to advance her career. That's not loyalty, that's opportunistic.
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I don't hate Ashley, but I don't agree that she's been loyal to Emily/Amanda- she's been working the back-stabby catty ex-friend angle since the end of season 1. Sometimes she decides her and Emily's interests align, or that she likes her again and helps her out, but that's why I'd say she flips sides a lot.

And now yeah, she is trying to do the right thing, but she's doing it by siding with the biggest dunce in the Hamptons! Watching her and Jack bumble around and give Emily (the only one with a freaking clue) the evil eye all the time is crazy-making.
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Ugh Jack really, every week I grow to hate him a little more. He either needs to get clued in on the truth about Amanda or die just to rid me of the horror of watching him stumble around looking stupid every week
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You're not wrong...
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I was disappointed with the Falcon, after building the tension for the last few episodes I was expecting him/her to be a new nemesis.Instead they find her identity and defeat her in only one episode.
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I am glad Nolan got a win, I really like him and he has had his rainy days recently, so it is just refreshing seeing him like that. Also yes, please Charlotte and Declan, move away, pretty please, still really boring.
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I have to say, I'm quite glad that Mike Kelley is leaving. He clearly doesn't know how to make a show for Primetime TV. All this treading water this season just confirms the rumour that he wanted s2 to only be 13 eps and had no idea how to stretch it out to the 22 eps ABC wanted. He should have pitched the show to AMC or Showtime or FX or something. While he did create the show, and I love him for that, he should step down and let someone, who can craft a show for ABC, fill the role. He doesn't know how to satisfyingly extend the plot.
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Trick is some shows just shouldn't be 22 episodes. This is a show that would have been better suited to 12 or so episodes, on that I agree. At the very least a miniseries would have allowed the drama and angst to stay high without sacrificing the story.
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It's not that it can't be 22 eps. It's that MEK didn't know how to play the long game. Any show can be extended and still keep the quality if it's in the right hands.
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Eh, not so sure about that. Prison Break should have been a miniseries. That would have been awesome. Maybe if it had been done like Game of Thrones or Spartacus type it would have worked better. Revenge can only be drawn out so long, especially when only a handful of characters are compelling.
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But that's my point though/ MEK is so focused, he can only write one story well. He should just write that one and pass the others off to people who can write them better.
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again.

The show was at its strongest last year, when it was "Emily" vs the Graysons and the members of their company that helped screw over her father. It was well written and well planned, like the first season of Prison Break. Like it was written with Season 1 being its main story / goal; perhaps as a short series, perhaps as a mini series, etc.

But like Prison Break, Revenge started to fall apart after season one. This gigantic nebulous enemy conglomerate they face and the stories just don't have that "well crafted" aspect.

It's like: the show-runners had a vision for the show... like something they'd been toying with for years and had all of these things locking into place. But then the network said "Give us more seasons" and they said f#@k ummm... ummm.. ok here's what we'll do. Last minute stuff.
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Daniel, Jack, Aiden or whoever be damned, Emily and Nolan are the heart of this show and they need to stick with that. New storylines are okay but the next need not be more spectacular then the last. This is a common mistake TV dramas make and the show Sisters actually ran itself right out of syndication because of it. So tone it down a bit Revenge and dance with the ones who brung ya...
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Season 1 of Revenge was classic. Season 2 made some bad choices in the characters highlighted and their story-lines. Daniel as a CEO... I don't think so. Alden as a featured character ... boring.
But Emily and Nolan (and Victoria) still carried the show.
Disagree with the Prison Break comments though. I think Prison Break is an example of a show with a limited concept that managed to expand and evolve in the following seasons. Four solid seasons...
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I think Prison Break is a good comparison, I just think there is more of a chance for this to recover and they haven't totally written themselves into a corner like I felt Prison Break actually did. Heck, that show tried to course correct by throwing them in Mexican jail or whatever that was, but it was too late at that point. Here, they can refocus fairly easily. While I really like Aiden and I might be in the minority, but having Takeda kill him as a way in his warped sense to help Emily and leaving Emily out on a ledge with only a tentative hold with Nolan (and that is where it might get interesting if he is somehow actually Victoria's son because he would have to decide how conflicted he is over basically his sister and his mother who abandoned him) to an emotional hold on everything and making it look like the Graysons played a role in killing him...
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The last season of Prison Brek was the best! You should have kept watching. And it ended perfectly.
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I did watch it, but I thought the whole Michael is sick and dying thing was a little...seriously...
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Not to mention depressing and pointless.
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Well, for once I liked the entire episode (minus Dull Jack Porter and everything he does), which was a ncie change. I usually struggle a lot with Emily's decisions when it comes to Daniel because I hate him more than life itself, but I was ok with it in Identity because, I think, of that last scene with Aiden. Even if Emily is a little confused at times, she knows and it was nice for her to remember that her goal is to defeat the Greysons from the inside, so then she can retire and be with Aiden (or anyone that is not Daniel). She said it cery clearly that Daniel is only a means to an end so I was good with that.
Also, YES PLEASE, NOLAN LESLIE ROSS SPIN OFF. Sadly enough (because I sort of like him and I do like his role in the Revengers team) it's probably Aiden'll die. I hope not though... I HOPE IT'S DANIEL. OR JACK. OR DECLAN. OR THE THREE OF THEM.
Still, there's a pretty good chance Revenge will be renewed for a third season, RIGHT???
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LOVED the episode (that Victoria takedown was superb) but I wasn't so much disappointed with the Falcon reveal as I was with her stupidity for some "genius computer hacker." If I could see that "computer virus on the flashdrive" trick coming a mile away, she sure as hell should have. I'd have preferred it, if they put the virus on one of her existing flashdrives. At least that would make a bit of sense.
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Hopefully season 3 will be more like season 1. This season was a letdown compared with how excellent season 1 was. I wonder if we'll be bored again with Jack & Declan, or if they'll make them exciting or kills them off.
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I feel like people are completely ignoring how good season 2 has gotten. It's been on a roll for 6 episodes now but because the first 13 were disappointing, all of the progress they've made somehow doesn't count. Revenge is back.
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I'm sorry, progress? What progress exactly? The 1-3 episodes spent on Amanda/Emily's fake stepbrother or the rest where we discovered Victoria had a baby and nothing exciting ever happens. >.>

If they don't do anything drastic in the finale, I think I'm done with the show.
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yes,.. I demand epicness,... I used to sit at the edge of my chair watching season 1 but now it has become quite boring
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It was hard watching and thinking...WHY IS AIDEN STILL ON THE SHOW?

I wish they get rid of him along with the stupid initiative storyline; t's just maddening. He and the lack of focus on Emily destorying the Graysons have been a part of the show's demise. The episode in itself was okay although I still hate 2 things.

1. Stop making everyone use Ashley to their advantage. Seriously! She is a human being, I wish everyone on this show wou;d stop using it her. I don't like what's being done to her, I feel really sad for her.

2. They are making Jack into a villian. First with him hating Emily, and second his use of people much like what the Grayson's do...

I realize Jack wasn't very much liked, but this isn't the answer. I liked him before and now not so much... =.=

Lastly, I never bought into this idea of Emily loving Aiden, or even caring for him. So I can only hope that they kill him off so that Emily can be with Daniel or Jack.
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I actually like Aidan's character. He's something Emily can go to that's not boring Jack and has the potential to push the story forward.

Ashley just needs to go away, and she should have never been brought back, and as for Jack being the villain? He'd be Pinky, useless, disappointing, and inept. Finally, Emily with Daniel? They had chemistry before, but I hope she takes him down with the rest of the Grayson, any chemistry from the first season is gone.
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Well, you must be the only one who likes Aiden. And I mean the one single person on Earth. < lol

On more serious note, I like Ashley and I've always liked Ashley and I'll continue to like her for numerous of reasons. First, she is compassionate, she is like the opposite of Amanda (Emily). May be it's something the actress brings to the character? Amanda is always so cold, everything about her. She is always guarded, and is always being manipulative and scheming....

When I saw Ashley holding the baby, my heart just melted. When was the last time we seen Amanda show any kind of love or compassion for anyone but her father? She is blinded by her hatred....

Second, there are many redeeming other characteristics about Ashley. Yet, everyone on the show uses her to their own advantage. She is a good person and she deserves better than that. < So I disagree, I'm glad Ashley is still apart of the show but I just hate what the writers are doing to her.

Last Note: IF the writers were smart, they would have had Amanda share her secret with Ashley and have them become a team, and I mean all of them Nolan/Ashley and Amanda with one shared goal: Take down the Graysons.

PEACE. XD
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Ashley puts herself in a position to be used. She seems vapid, a gold-digging opportunist, and just doesn't interest me. She'd fit right in on Gossip Girl.
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Sorry... Probably we are only 2 people in this world, but I must admit I also like Aidan. I reserve my " they bored me to death" vote for Jake, Charlotte, Declan and Ashley! Wow...actually, that's nearly half the cast!
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Amen
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Ashley offers herself to everyone,... low self esteem
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Minor character fault, personally I find Amanda less appealing.
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'' found '' ;) ,... though I am not sure if you meant this fault is minor or the fact that she is a minor character makes her this way,... what I love about this show is that it has less plot devices than most series out there,... Ashley is not a plot device in my opinion,... so her lack of self worth makes me uneasy,...
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How is that minor? Seems like a big deal in this show. Puts you at risk, and there's been no growth except to try to find more opportunity to crawl in bed with the Graysons.
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Amen...Jack needs to get some truth and straighten out,and Aiden must disappear!
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1) Revenge better get renewed.
2) I like it better that the falcon was someone we did not know.
3) I do not think Adien is the character that is going to die in the finale, because he is not one of the original core characters. I think the character that might die is Charlotte..

I also like that this episode brought back Emily in the sweatshirt. That is another way one knows real revengey stuff is going to happen.
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Yes please on Charlotte dying, and maybe add a bit of Jack and Declan.
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loved the mention of the sweatshirt,... agreed
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1. With Mike Kelley's leaving, the one thing I worry about is that I have noticed that on some shows where there is a single showrunner and there are all these random characters that there is one character that the show runner puts in place to sort of let him relate to the best. He or she is permitted to say all the aside lines that said showrunner puts in liner notes and can serve as sort of an audience substitute. I fear, Nolan is that character on this show. Gabriel Mann will still rock the role, but it will be a little faded.

2. Well because she had a super crappy voice mixer, I knew it was a woman, so I figured we hadn't met her yet.

3. I don't know, I sense he might be the one killed off just because it will totally break Emily. And, I think it might be more interesting if we know that the perpetrator is actually Takeda (does she have any idea that he was the one who killed Tyler?) but he makes it look like Aiden was the victim of the same circumstances as David. I think the show might be interesting for at least two more seasons that we know Emily's (and I would argue it is actually the real Amanda's heart) heart only belonged to Aiden so any new guy introduced or however far she goes with Daniel, we know it isn't real. Heck, they could make this a full fledged soap opera and Aiden's body is missing so that if this show ends at the end of say five years, he can reappear and Emily might have a happy ending.

Was anyone else ready to be freaked out at the end when Nolan was sitting there, far too gleeful to stay that way on this show, and the scene before had been Conrad just saying that the reporters were going to drag Patrick out into the public and Victoria looked horrified (and more like a mother's reaction than I have ever seen out of her) and then Victoria walks into Nolan's office and then you remember that it is clear the baby was likely born in 1973, making him just 40 which is about how old Nolan probably is and were like...holy crap, no way. I quickly pointed out in my head that the old professor specifically pointed out that the baby and Victoria had the same eyes and Nolan's are blue and Victoria's are brown. But...holy crap that would actually be really interesting.
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Takeda told our heroine that he killed Tyler.(She's covering up multiple murders).
I want Aiden dead for good ASAP...she belongs with Jack at the series finale and needs to stop making that harder.
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Heck no, Jack had his chance with Amanda. Now he's chopped liver and should have died with his Fauxmanda.
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I can't stand Jack, he is now too full of himself.
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yes,... jack must die,... because that is what he is good for,... in dying he will achieve so much more,...
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I thought it could not be Nolan because he was never in foster homes.
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But wasn't he raised by his aunt who was Conrad's secretary who suspected David was being set up?
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No,don't you remember the business about his father's storage locker?...how would the father have gotten the David Clarke check if Nolan hadn't lived with him?
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Just because he believe the man was his father, doesn't mean he was, he could have been adopted or heck, maybe his father was the stepfather that knocked Victoria up who managed to figure out where the kid was.
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1) Revenge needs to get renewed since there's so much work to do! How much longer do we need to wait before the network announces its decision?
2) I was glad the Falc0n wasn't somebody we already know. It makes more sense this way and it was easier for the show to get rid of her.
3) Aiden is so perfect for Emily that it hurts... How romantic was his declaration? he's ready to wait for her and understands why she needs to go on with this wedding thing. He just wants to do what's best for her. I don't think she could get anything more with anyone else. She has found someone that truly understands her and accepts her for what she is, no matter what.
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Agreed. Daniel and Jack just don't fit. Aidan's the only one who can go head to head with her and keep up. Daniel is going too much towards the Conrad path, and Jack is just too useless.
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yeah, poor baby carl
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1 I think Revenge will get renewed, ABC can't seem to shore up that 10pm slot so I think that they will keep the OUAT / Revenge combo and try to find a third; not sure how the OUAT spinoff will workout.
2 The Falcon was another let down; how can someone talked about so much be taken down so fast and easy.
3 I have a feeling Aiden might survive but Revenge has been so all over the place I forgot they said they were going to kill a major character off; here's hoping for Declan or Conrad.

This episode was ok as has been the last few episodes; I remember the times when I used to look forward to Revenge now I'm just watching it out of habit. I hope they do get a season three just to make up for all this Initiative BS and characters added we care nothing about.
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1. Revenge is gonna get renewed! 2. I couldn't care less bout the FalcOn reveal cuz it'd 've been way more interesting if it was so we know/ care about, here it looked like a copout to get rid of a boring plot. 3. Aiden has never looked alive cuz one-dimensional, he might as well die already in a fire with Jack & Declan, but spare the baby pls ^^
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At what point can showrunners just listen to their fans? I know that giving in to popular pressure isn't cool but really...I've stopped watching this show because two of the characters annoy me so much.

1. Jack: He gets in the way, he's not hardcore like the other characters, he is whiny, and despite the best intentions of the writers I still have absolutely no sense of chemistry between Jack and Emily. Writers, I know you really wanted to have a love triangle here but its not working...and it is slightly weird since their "love" is based on relationship between two 6-years. Ditch him. Have him fall in love (permanently) with someone else. Have him leave town in shame. Have him go nuts stalker on Emily and be killed off. Something. Anything. The show will be better without him, and he probably couldn't deal with who the "real" Emily is and what she has done anyway.

Emily's love triangle is between Daniel and her love of wanting to screw the entire family over for good. Always has been. She's beyond touchy feely relationships and a happy ending.

2. Declan: Yep, college sounds great. On the other coast.
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Speak for yourself- you're not representative of this show's fanbase. There are plenty of fans (myself) who love Jack and will probably stop watching if the showrunners get rid of him.

And there is no love triangle involving Daniel because Emily doesn't love him.
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The comments on the articles (as well as the articles themselves) often bemoan Jack. Obviously Emily doesn't love Daniel, but then again she doesn't really love anybody. When I say "love triangle" I mean "conflict/manipulation triangle."
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Vic and Ems are the main reason I watch this show ;D
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This episode was fun
I'm watching this show only because of the scenes between Emily and Victoria
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I don't really get why Jack and Declan are still in the show? Jack was supposed to have that "oh my god it's you! it's amanda!"-thing going on, but that never happened. At least not with the real Amanda. And Declan is only on the show because he's Jack's brother. And his never-interesting (I refuse to write "boring", because "never-interesting" is so much stronger a word for how I really find those two NEVER interesting!) relationship with Charlotte. If this show isn't actually going to use these two characters in a way that'll make me care about them, just leave 'em alone already. Or do it TVD-style: have them die purely as a plot device.

Other than that: sharpie-episodes are the best! And I sure hope Revenge gets renewed for a third season. If only to watch Nolan and Em having their clamcam nights, chillin' like a villain ^^ And let's not forget the icecold excellence that is Victoria Grayson. I love how she can give you the biggest insults with a smile and all you can do is thank her for it.
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This is supposed to be a riff from The Count of Monte Cristo.That means Charlotte and Declan stand in for the young lovers the Count left behind when he sailed off with Haydee,his revenge behind him,just as Jack will finally sail off to Haiti.
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i feel like nolan better live on forever, either in revenge or in his own show. tbh, i thought that aiden is thisclose to dying after seeing tonights episode, only because mike had said that the third season would bring in another love interest for ems thats not aiden, and seriously he's a pain in the butt now...
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No way, another love intrest for Emily? Are the writers/creators/producers of this show bent on killing it? I've actually never heard of this; I hope you are wrong.

In short, Emily should be with Daniel.
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Yeah, it was meant to be that next season was the year of Aiden, but they swapped it for some reason? idk...
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I thought Edith and Nolan would make a cute couple :')) if not for her being all bad etc.. but maybe there's an explanation for that as well. There always seems to be..
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