Revenge "Retribution" Review: What Revenge? What Retribution? Move Along, There's Nothing to See Here

Revenge S02E15: "Retribution"


If you were hoping Revenge would return with a vengeance, well… it didn't.

After a three-week hiatus and Fauxmanda's Titanic death (My heart will go on. It must!), was it too much to ask for a little retribution in an episode titled "Retribution"?

In a word, yes. The Revengers are still the Initiative's bitches, and instead of taking action against the Graysons (dammit, she promised!), Emily is boohooing over the loss of her BFF. You know, that chick who took half-a-million bucks from her only to return and steal Emily's one true love. (At least we know that Fauxmanda is positively, absolutely, undeniably, and reliably dead: The Coast Guard retrieved her body and Charlotte identified it as that of her stepsister.)

Widower Jack has the sads too, but he's also mad. Grrr! Watch out, Conrad Grayson, because the schmuck who's been duped by everyone who ever set foot in his bar is gunning for you!

And that's not all: Jack also has his weepy sights on Emily, whom he blames for corrupting his wife, endangering his family, and generally just being a liar liar pants on fire.

While recovering at home (thanks to the Graysons footing his medical bills), Jack discovered Fauxmanda's hidden key to a storage locker in the marina. (He seemed awfully mobile for someone who nearly died from a gunshot wound, but vendettas can be galvanizing. Grrr!) There, Mr. Porter found not only the Hamptons' most-wanted computer, but also the juvie records linking his late wife to the respectable Ms. Thorne.

So now that Jack hates her, Emily seems to be pining for him even more, and feeling even more protective of her little boy blue.

And when Aiden stole back her computer from the Stowaway (Jack suspected the Graysons, of course. Grrr!), Emily tossed it in the ocean. Suddenly prison is too good for the Graysons, and she wants "no more distractions."

Really? She seems pretty distracted by Jack, no? Even worse, her attention is about to be diverted by a brother. Who also happens to be her brother—or more specifically, Eli James, the foster brother she hasn't seen since she burned their house down 14 years ago.

And unlike the dimwitted Jack, Eli actually recognizes her. He didn't say so when they first met at Fauxmanda's grave, but in the preview for next week's episode, he jibed, "Looking pretty good, for a dead girl!"

Amid all this finger-pointing, Nolan identified the recently severed appendange as indeed belonging to Padma's father. And even though his ladylove's pops might already be dead, Nolan finished the Carrion program and gave it to Padma. Now she has a finger and a thumb… drive. Will the R-Team ever gain the upper hand?



NOLANISMS

– "I know you didn't come all the way across town to deliver your halfhearted condolences." (To his new boss, Daniel.)

– "Control, Alt, Delete. Got it." (To Daniel again, while threatening to "break (his) digital kneecaps" if he didn't hand over the Carrion program.)

– "Nolan Ross, life's pawn, how can I help?" (Answering Emily's phone call.)



QUESTIONS

1. How cold does this dish of revenge need to be before Emily finally serves it?

2. Am I being too hard on Jack? Is his anger finally going to make him a badass?

3. This episode was directed by Helen Hunt. Should she stick with acting?


4. Mason Treadwell, Mr. Trask, or Jack Porter: Who has the worst hair?

5. Is Jack and Daniel's new swagger sexy, or are they just acting like dicks?

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I'm starting to roll my eyes with Jack. What did Amanda seen in this guy?
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am actually glad that a lot of revenge has not been taken, thou fauxamanda's death is mournable and the graysons should be punished, but if Emily gets her complete revenge in this season itself, what will the show progress on?? i dont want this show to end anytime soon...but yes it would be nice if each episode could b a KILLER one, and no more deaths in Team Emily please!! Kill someone more from the Initiative or someone from the Grayson's!
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In the end till now from Season 1 not a single shred of revenge has actually been taken by Emily, D Graysons all of em Victoria, Daniel, Dad, Sis r all alive n kicking n have done reasonably well for themselves, with Daniel now running his dads company while dad is running for governor!!,,,,Infact now the Graysons seem as some 1 who actually were themselves victims by the so called Initiative who r like ultimate bad guy with powers but actually just 1 guy with a cell phone and so Graysons did what any 1 does too save their own skins when their backs were pressed against d wall! With all that money, time and supposed cunning I just wonder when and if at all Emily will ever take even a small shred of revenge or actually jus keep loosing more ppl like her doppelganger - amanda, jack who gives shit abt ems now and Nolan who lost control of his company to Daniel.......etc...jus bloody tedious, go somewhere, create some plot, all jus look aimless n now d laptop with any real evidence is also gone,,,,,,i say just kill whoever u have 2 with a gun n spare us another season plz, time has been wasted!
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I'm ammending my statement. A lot of SECONDARY consipirators have been screwed over. The guy who wrote the book that sealed her father's fate. One of the witnesses that purfured herself. That judge/politician person. Season 1 saw a lot of the minor targets either taken out or knocked down a peg or two.

As we've learned, Amanda is also after the Initiative BEHIND the Graysons... and for that she needs them on the board. If they go, that only leaves Daniel and the Initiative might just cut ties with him due to the parents publicity.
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Ugh, this show is getting annoying. I liked it when it was all cunning schemes to off the nasty people who deserved it, and each episode ended with a satisfying "Ha! Hows THEM apples?". Now...now the show is so twisty and...well, dark that it has lost 99% of its appeal for me. Yea, the formulaic pattern could have gotten old...but maybe just a few thrown in here and there so that we feel somewhat satisfied and not depressed and annoyed at the end of every ep? Also, am I the ONLY one who thinks Em waiting to tell Jack who she is is a horrid idea? Nolan's advice of "Don't make him lose her twice" is AWFUL advice! So what? Instead wait until he has come to terms with her death, found peace, their son knows his mom as Amanda Clarke and THEN drop the bomb? So much better
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If Emily doesn't want to send them to prison and she doesn't want to kill them, then what kind of revenge does she want? Media shame and loss of wealth? I always thought she just wanted to "take them down" and that evidence would have done that. Now, I just feel confused.
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NO i think Emily is right in not killing them or sending them to prison either. Death is too painless for it to be Revenge, and with Power like Grayson's, we have already seen how easily they get out of Prison. I think the Best Kind of Revenge will be D Miserablest's life imaginable for them,shunned by their Children & d world, a life imprisonment outside Prison.
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this reviewer obviously doesnt like the show, i would rather have no recap than have a person who doesnt like the show review it. where is lily sparks she was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay bettter. im sick of people who dont even like the show go on here and commenting
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i cant believe the reviews that im reading for this show i honestly think that people are being too harsh on this show, this in my opinion is one of the best episodes
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I agree...season 2 has brought in so many different shades and emotions to Emily's & Nolan's characters and Look at the way Jack, Declan & Charlotte's Characters are growing! Even though i detest Victoria, we have seen a new side of her Emotions as well. All this makes for a great show and Revenge still is Awesum!!
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Here's my theory

I think that Padma is the head of the Initiative, got close to Nolan and then on purpose slipped the name of the program when talking to Nolan so that he would find out she was being threatened by the Initiative only to tell him that they've got her father and it would be more believable and gain his trust without any doubt, then she went and cut her own father's finger just so she could get her hands on Carrion.. Yes? No? Anyone?
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I agree..Padma's story is def not buyable..maybe the initiative got a whiff of the Revenge Emily is planning and send Padma to find out what they are upto...its unbelievable how quickly padma Confessed to her Father being in danger & her being threatened by the initiative! Had she really been threatened by the initiative,how could she so easily disclose everything to Nolan ??? weird aint it?
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I agree. I'm definitely not buying Padma as innocent in all of this. And that threatening voicemail left by the initiative? Come on! No way would they incrimate themselves by leaving voicemails! And I noticed the look on her face after she got Carrion. It was cold, not concerned about the impact of what she has or even relief that this could save her father. Yeah.
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What happened to this great show? Did the writers just get their heads all full of praise and then give up or did ABC executives decide how Season 2 was going to work and the writers are just keeping up with stupid suggestions. They gave the Grayson's an out. Then they kill off Amanda/Emily, one of the few bright spots left? They should have just killed off Daniel. Watching his scenes is like watching paint dry. I loved this show too bad it is now dead. ABC really likes original "Torchwood" members in really stupid roles in its shows don't they?
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Fauxmanda? A bright spot? Um, were we watching the same show?
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I hated fauxmanda so I'm glad that's over
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nothing happened, this show is finally starting to come together
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I still love my revengy blondes, but yeah, more action please... if writers can kill Amanda they can kill anyone now... I will cry for Amanda for the next 4 seasons.
I thought for a second when Emily heard Victoria saying that loosing a child was the worst thing a parent can endure that she was guning for Daniel, obvs, since Charlotte is HER sister that only leaves Daniel, so she is going to kill him, or try to completely destroy his relationship with Victoria.
I sure hope Jack's new swagger makes itself comfy and doesn't go anywhere any time soon... Kill somebody Jack!!!! How about we get rid of Conrad? Wouldn't it be awesome?
Or even better, Emily trying to kill Daniel accidentally kills Charlotte... oh well, how much collateral damage can Emily take?

Also, I still don't buy Padma's story, she's part of the Initiative and either she cut her own father's thumb or he is also in cahoots and cut his own finger for "the greater good". Still, I don't like her one bit.

Please give Daniel something to do other than drinking at his office and stare at the clock in absolut paranoia..
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Season 2 is way worse than season 1 even Nolan is kinda boring now.
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how is it way worse because emily is not doing any takedowns is that why people are saying its bad, just because the show decided to do something different that doesnt make it bad
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Wow I remember when this show was awesome and I couldn't wait to see what happened each week, not anymore. Every character is a dumbed down version of their former selves and the writers seem comfortable coasting. It seems like they revealed to much in the first season and now they're just running on fumes. I hope they get it together soon, this season has reminded me why I almost never watch network TV.
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it is still awosome just a bit different this season. people that dont like the show this season were never true fans to begin with
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I doubt alot of people understand concepts of shows. If the show has to last it can't wrap up her "revenge" quickly, alot of retribution did take place in season 1, to bring in fans. Season 2 is about loyalty of the fans, while the show must stay entertaining it cannot be too fast paced. Every good thriller has to have twists and turns.
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Bah I was hoping that Jack might join the Revenge team when you found out about the plan to destroy the Grayson's but alas he has returned to the comfortable role of the idiot on the outside. He someone wants to shoot him again (this time properly) I wouldn't mind.
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Her foster brother looked like he could be an interesting character, wonder how Charlotte got in contact with him? So what if Emily knew Amanda before, it was for Amanda to say something not Emily. If she wanted to keep that part of her life secret, that's her business. So Jack just needs to get over it.

Aiden is getting less interesting. He is cool as the supportive bf, but the act can get boring. We need more Aiden fight scenes lol. Oh and I was upset when Emily just threw the laptop in the ocean after all the trouble it took to get it back. Just erase the information, that was just reckless.
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5. oh so sexy! Daniel's still better tho.
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1. How cold does this dish of revenge need to be before Emily finally serves it?= Not sure. I expected a lot more from this episode especially since Emily and Fauxmanda were so close. But Charlotte and Jack each almost ruined everything with their amateur investigations into "Amanda Clarke's" past. And why does Jack automatically assume Emily corrupted Fauxmanda? It could be the other way around.

2. Am I being too hard on Jack? Is his anger finally going to make him a badass?= I think that now he has some more concrete proof of the Grayson's involvement in making his and Fauxmanda's lives miserable he's going to start proving that he's not as dumb as he looks. Emphasis on the word "start."

3. This episode was directed by Helen Hunt. Should she stick with acting? It was not bad directing.

4. Mason Treadwell, Mr. Trask, or Jack Porter: Who has the worst hair? Treadwell, no contest. I thought his look was part of his "inner crazy" seeping onto the outside.

5. Is Jack and Daniel's new swagger sexy, or are they just acting like dicks? Jack is somewhat, but Daniel is being a jerk. There's nothing worse than someone acting like they have just discovered some new piece of news that they think no one else knows and they are determined to hold it over everyone else's head. But what that person doesn't know is that everyone else already knows that piece of news.
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In the first season, most episodes were about taking revenge by showing unexpected video's in public or anything else to embarrass the Greysons. I'm waiting for that to happen again.
Somehow I expect Emily to do something that will prevent Grayson to get into politics. Then he would have nothing left but retirement.
When Jack confronted Emily I thought he had found out about the identity switch the two women did, but he now only knows they were in juvi together. Bummer... that would probably the best episode of the entire series.
I'm very curious what he foster brother is going to do, will he help or be a problem...
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Now now come on, the girl has just lost her best friend, some slack, please.
Sure, the episode was not very revengy, right.. it was regrouping. They are establishing a new balance and then they will most likely start the final rush.. we lost one major character and the dynamics are changing, new characters, new foes, relationships changing.
True, the title was just wrong, but that aside the ep was ok. I hated the funeral and loved the first scene with Nolan and the confrontation with Jack.
I am curious about Jack embarking on his personal vendetta, although I can't help but think he won't be able to handle it and get in trouble... well we'll see, but it would be nice to see Jack find out the truth and become a revenger himself, against Emily.
Also may I say, Padma... annooooooooooooooooooooying.
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can we have some ACTUAL revenge now please?
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I did wanted to enjoy this episode but I couldn't... I kept hoping for something "big" to happen but nothing ever did.

Same old same old. Nothing to see in this one!

1. Emily still hasn't told the truth about her and fake Amanda to Jack. (HOW LONG CAN THEY DRAG THIS OUT?) It's getting less than irritating.

2. The initiative storyline is moving at the speed of a snail. Looks like it's never going away. Thanks writers!

3. Aiden is still there and he pretends that he gives a damn about Emily or Padma...

4. Daniel is still a douche...

5. Emily said "No more distractions" - Thanks writers! Thanks for making her one big fat liar. Looks like her "stepbrother" is back next week. I wonder how long they are going to drag this out! It's maddening. Can Emily get back to her "REVENGE" ? Or at least change the name to something like "omfgIhatetheGraysonstheykilledmyfatherbutI'mnotgoingtodoanythingbuttalkabouthowmuchIhatethemtoAiden"

What happened to this show? It's gotten so off track....

Rant over////
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JACK DANIELS new swagger

(i might have misread the last sentence)
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Jack Daniels new stagger;-)
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Drusilla Moorhouse, nice ta meetcha. I see that you're right in line with all of this and the show isn't nearly as good as the first season. But what're ya gonna do? You can only tangle a web so much before it becomes unravelable, but it's still fun. I'm tending to enjoy Scandal more and more as that web gets more tangled and is due to be unravelable soon too. I know it's not as fun but sometimes these shows need to back off some to keep it interesting and fresh. The show Sisters actually spectaculared itself out of business...
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Jack grows a spine....finally! He's a sweet guy, but dumb. Looks like he's about to wise up!
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Getting far too repetitive and "soapy". There should have been a cycle of revenge, perhaps to be then transferred onto the next bearer. Giving up on it, sorry.
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how is it repetitive and soapy. if it was soapy then the show would just be about people sleeping with eachother.
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I actually liked this episode I feel like it would not have made sense for the episode not to focus on Fauxmanda's Titanic death. However, well the revengey stuff can not go to quickly as the show would have to end after Emily gets here revenge, I do wish she would seek revenge a little quicker.

I think Emily should write a letter to Charlotte and pretend it is from Fauxmanda and in it she could explain everything her mother and her fauxdaddy did to her real dad and half sister.
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Okay, wow, I liked this episode a lot more than you. I appreciated that after a year and a half we got Jack somewhat in on the game (I have a memory of us all debating that last year when we met Jack and Nolan decided to make him his best friend). I also appreciated that he had the reaction to Emily that I imagine a lot of people might have now, of being mad at her for keeping secrets.

I do imagine the only major difference in Emily from the last time her foster brother likely saw her was her hair color and her posture....but I can't help but think he might be sort of smarter version of Jack in relation to this whole thing. He won't tell anyone, and he truly knew the hurt little girl who thought her father had betrayed the whole country before she got an inkling of any revenge ideas.

I do wonder why Nolan couldn't have imbedded a virus into the Carrion program that wouldn't be downloaded until after the whole program is ready to go (so on the off chance that Padma's father is released with the delivery of the thumb drive, they can be free before it destroys the INitiative). I kind of hope that is what happens and it is the way we can wrap up and expose the Initiative storyline in such a way that doesn't actually expose the Graysons.
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While this episode was less exciting than the previous (you can't have such a major crisis every ep anyway), this did streamline things again. Emily's all angry again! I might even say that Emily had somewhat mellowed out this season, she's got Aiden, seems to have given up Jack, she stopped kinda doing the destroy someone one by one thing, this new loss will hopefully kick things up again. Although I hope one of those things being kicked up is not a renewal of a possible relationship with Jack (sorry, but I even prefer Emily and Daniel over Emily and Jack).
The Graysons in a park! That trenchcoat on Victoria - no mangey leaves will ever come close to her spotless bandage dresses!
And, more important that knowing that Fauxmanda was positively, absolutely (was there ever any doubt?) dead, was that the pointless Ryan brothers plot is also dead!! How refreshing was it to have an ep without any time wasted on that subplot? No unthreatening conversations with Nate Ryan and Jack, and even Declan was unobtrusive this ep. Yes I know they will prolly find new ways for Jack to be annoying and a lot more meddling now that he knows some stuff, and I'm aware that Kenny Ryan is still alive, but he wasn't as into it as Nate and now that Jack also is getting all Revengey, it does seem like the writers have killed that plot along with Fauxmanda. YAY!
And can we talk about Nolan? While that wasn't a big scene, we seem to have just brushed that aside, despite the potential repercussions. He gave away the Carrion program! He was devastated! That hair! Wearing *only one* shirt! Not telling Emily beforehand! Will Padma exchange the program for her dad? Has she actually been playing Nolan all this time? While I don't care much for Padma, I do care that Nolan just did something that may very well cause another flight 197 - will there be new Revengees - against Nolan? Okay, probably not. But ohnoeeees.
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Is the "Ryan Brothers" plot truly dead? There's still one more brother.

Granted, he seemed to be a semi-decent guy and wanted to leave Jack alone... but that was BEFORE his brother died. He might take that a bit personally, even if his brother did bring it on himself.
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I did think of that, but even if Kenny comes back, it should at least be less eye rolling than "we're going to acquire your bar mwahahaha!" And Jack is hopefully less willing to take all the silly crap that comes his way now. Also, while we're talking about this, I realize I'm actually a bit confused as to who knows that Nate died out there, cos there seems to be no investigation regarding that, even if as a find Amanda's killer! kind of way - if I recall, they just found Amanda's body (and Nate was blown to bits anyway), it seems like no one else other than Conrad, Emily, Nolan and Jack knew that Nate was there, and Conrad and Emily won't bring it up, and Jack wouldn't have known Nate was dead as well.
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I'm pretty sure one of the characters mentioned that Nate's body was found... as in someone besides Nolan/Amanda. Like one of the Graysons, or that new Initiative guy.

But I might be remembering incorrectly.
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Well, Jack is an idiot... easily duped by everyone. But I WILL give him the benefit of the doubt on one thing: not recognizing Amanda while her Foster brother APPEARS to eventually do.

The last time Jack saw her, she was like what... 9? People change a lot since adolescence... including faces.

Meanwhile, Amanda's foster-brother probably knew her into her young teen years. At that point, you start shaping up to look like you do later in life... especially compared to your low 20's.

On top of that, the history lessons Amanda gave Fauxmanda would have cemented the deal. "Oh, remember when?" stuff.
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About the "Ctrl Alt Del" line...

Didn't Daniel say that if Nolan does anything BUT delete the program, he will make his life Hell? As in, he's rebelling against the Initiative and doesn't want them to get the program?
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Yes, you are right. Daniel was demanding the files of Nolan's project, to find out what he did to it (e.g, if he did anything other than destroy it), not the actual Carrion files.
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I actually couldn't disagree more. This episode was AWESOME and it totally circled back to what Revenge is really about. her throwing out the laptop and promising to get "back to basics" made me so happy. Plus it looks like we have a new Tyler (in Eli) which should be fun. Emily has always played it smart. She's not going to run over to the Graysons house and shoot them in cold blood because she wants to. She always bides her time and gets them where it hurts most. Also, Jack is actually becoming interesting.
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You're not being too hard on Jack, and unfortunately this is all probably going to make him more unbearable. I kind of wish the show would keep up the pace of the first season, but then they probably wouldn't reach five seasons like I'm sure they want to, so the revenge dish is going to be positively frigid by the time it gets there.
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Stopped reading after this line, "and instead of taking action against the Graysons (dammit, she promised!), Emily is boohooing over the loss of her BFF."

I miss Lily! She understood and reviewed the show better and a lot more fun. Also, this was a great episode and refocused the show on what Season One was all about, which were getting revenge against the Graysons.
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I agree as Emily said she was one of the only people she ever loved. Had she not cried over her it would have been more horrible.
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Where is Lily?
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1. Apparently pretty cold. Maybe the show should return to its old formula, where at least every two episodes a co-conspirator gets their comeuppance. While this did get a little repetitive after a while, at least team Revenge was actually getting revenge. Because while I'm totally down for Amanda (real Amanda) and her team playing the long game, staying smart, and being patient, it's gotten to the point where they seem to be more reactionary than anything. Time was they were the ones that threw the punches, and even though they didn't always succeed in causing mayhem, they irritated the hornet's nest and killed a number of hornets in the process. And now that they've been dealing with this big bad initiative lately, they have no excuse. Amanda won't have gotten all her revenge if one or all of the Graysons responsible go to jail. Which means that if this show is going to keep its stakes high, and show us that it still means business, at least one of the Graysons need to die, go to jail, or suffer extremely in some way at Amanda's hand.

2. I think that Jack has been a lost cause for a while now. I guess his heart is in the right place, though at times it really hasn't been, but he is too naive and too untrained to be useful in any way. He doesn't even realize what's really going on; most of the time he's actually angry at the wrong people, so it's actually incredible that this time around he actually he's right on the money for hating Conrad Grayson. Though unfortunately he's also anti-Amanda right now, so he's still got a ways to go before he has enough insight to be useful. But even if Jack actually knew everything that's going on, he's got a very poor track record of getting things done. The utterly botched sting on the Ryans is a perfect example of this. He had all the information he needed to put the Ryans away for good, yet somehow he ended up admitting to their crime, as well as a murder he didn't commit. As a previous review from this site stated: "You only had one job to do doesn't even come close."

If Jack were ever to actually become a bad-ass, then he would need more information, experience, cleverness, and skill when it comes to playing the game that he hasn't even read the rules for. Anger, though it is a great motivator, will not assist him in any of this. Knowing what he's done in the past, he'll probably make a move against Conrad as the very moment that Amanda wants him to succeed, because then she'll be able to take down the initiative. So Jack will unknowing have ruined everything, again. Which means that Jack will be a misguided bad-ass at best, and will probably not only benefit the really bad people behind everything, but will get himself into a resulting mess that Amanda will then have to clean up. I know this won't happen on a show like Revenge, but Jack should just stay at home and take care of his kid. It's a sad day when a former drug addict and literal thief, who still aren't adults, are the only stable parents for that child.

3. Actually, the problems I had with this episode were all on the writing side of things, something that Helen Hunt probably had no control over whatsoever. As far as the acting, cinematography, editing, and overall feel of this episode went, I thought she did a pretty decent job. Especially since this was her first time doing anything on this show, which means that she had to get to know a lot of people and give direction with a authority that she had to step into cold, and wasn't able to ease into like most actors who direct episodes on television, since they're usually main characters on the show in question.

4. I'd say that Mason Treadwell can be counted on to have the worst hair nine times out of ten, but that occasionally Jack's hair will literally rise to the challenge and put Treadwell shameful hair to even further shame.

5. Jack: yes to the dick part. He's just angry at this point and shoving that anger out on people, some of whom don't deserve it. The fact that he's swaggering while he does this only makes him seem more unhinged. Daniel: I'm not sure. He's a wild card at this point, since he's simultaneously working for and against both sides. So while it's great to see him take an initiative against he initiative, this only happens some of the time, while the rest of the time he is aiding and abetting terrorists. His swagger only serves to make him sort look like he's his own man, but since I can't really see what this new man looks like, I can't really comment on his sexiness or lack thereof.
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While I really appreciate Emily's vow to get back on track with being all revengy, I'm really irritated that she threw that laptop into the water, for so many reasons. First of all, if she was going to dispose of it, tossing it about ten feat out to sea, on a beach that is shared with her mortal enemies, is not the best option. Immerse it in acid or actually go a few miles out to sea before tossing it, if you actually want it to disappear forever. Or, even better, just erase the files if they were the thing you were going to get rid of. I realize that she's super rich and all that, and can easily afford to buy another, better computer; but, laptops have components in them that seriously damage the environment, so even smashing it to pieces, putting those pieces in a bad, and then hiding that bad somewhere in her house would have been a better option.

But of course, getting rid of the computer, or just wiping the files, isn't actually a good idea at all. Okay, fine, this whole revenge mission was never about sending the Graysons to jail, because jail is "too good for them." Even though I'm pretty sure her goal is to, at some point, restore her father's good name (which would require everyone knowing the truth, or at least a version of it), which would require there being clear-cut evidence that would send the Graysons to jail anyway, I can buy the fact that Amanda (I'm going to call her by her real name from now on, since fake Amanda is dead) wants to them suffer and be afraid in other ways than hanging out in a jail cell for a while.

Still, that evidence is a tool, a very valuable tool that proves not only were the Graysons behind the terrorist attack, which therefore proves that her father was innocent, but also that there is a larger, darker corporation behind everything. That extremely powerful tool can be used, and has been used, to achieve an extreme amount of otherwise difficult things. You can use it to blackmail the Graysons as many times as you want. She could use it to show her mother what Gordon was really about, if her mother ever returns,which, let's face it, she will. After all, now that fake Amanda is dead we need someone else to be the explosive crazy on the show. The important thing is that even if Amanda doesn't want to use that evidence to send the Graysons to jail, she has already used it to do other, essential things in the past. And she can use it to do similar things in the future. For instance, at some point I would like Charlotte to join team revenge, and to find out that her real sister is still alive. And the easiest way for Amanda to bring Charlotte to her side is to show her only a couple of the clips that she used to have, which proved that all of the Graysons, other than Charlotte, are straight up criminals in a huge way.

Even so, if Amanda doesn't want to use that evidence one little bit, then she should still hold onto it. At some future time, probably seasons down the road, the truth about David Clarke's innocence will come out. And by that time the Graysons, and maybe even the initiative, will have suffered a lot and paid a lot in the name of Amanda's revenge. And at that point, when Amanda is satisfied that her mission is complete, there is no logical reason why she wouldn't use that evidence in any way whatsoever. Even if its just to deliver it anonymously to the authorities, or even someone like Mason Treadwell, she will find it handy.

I'm pretty certain that this is just a blatant move by the writers to remove this overly useful evidence from the show. I guess its just become too easy that whenever Emily needs to turn the heat on the Graysons she can just email videos to various people, or pretend that a number of people are behind her blackmail scheme. I honestly don't think this is the case, since at this point she is actually fighting a mostly unknown, more powerful enemy, so she can use all the ammunition she can get. She still hasn't even started dishing out revenge on the Initiative, and has been on a fact finding mission up to this point (yeah, Aiden did kill Gordon, but he was just a pawn. None of the actual power-players have been taken out). So she really could use that blackmail gold right now, and it's not like it was getting to be an all-powerful weapon or anything like that.

But still, the writers wanted it gone, at least for now, so it got tossed into the ocean. It would have been far more realistic if Emily had thrown it into the ocean in a rage of emotion, and not what seemed to be a cold, calculated move toward getting "back on track" as she claimed. Better yet, the lap top should be been destroyed by someone who logically wants it destroyed, aka the Graysons, who were looking for it anyone. However, I'm pretty sure the writers didn't want that to happen, because then it would taint fake Amanda's mournful passing, since then the laptop's destruction would have happened because she was selfish and stupid, and stole it from real Amanda in the first place. It's more important at this point, though, that fake Amanda be purified of all the stupid, crazy, cringe-worthy, cruel, and straight-up homicidal that she has done since she literally first stepped onto this show. And it doesn't help this attempt, at making us forget how bad and dangerous a person she was, if her destructive touch continues to ruin things even after her funeral.

Anyway, this is the first time that Emily has done something that supposedly wasn't emotional, and that she claimed was a smart decision, but was actually a stupid decision. I really hope that Nolan, being Nolan, has backed up all the evidence somewhere. Regardless, Amanda had better actually get some revenge in the next episode. Otherwise, the environment was harmed for no reason. And that would be a tragedy.
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so true--all of it.
Jacks stupidity is rubbing off on Amanda
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I didn't see the scene well... Were they on a boat a little off the shore? Or were they on the boardwalk? Also, was it the whole "Infinity Box" or just the laptop?

If it was the whole Infinity box, then it's a risk. There's too much in there. If sealed, enough papers might survive.

If it's just the laptop: then enough time in the salt water should kill the hard drive. Plain old wet can be recovered easily enough. Soaking in salt water for days/weeks/months is fairly certain to destroy it. Though I'd hope it wasn't just off the boardwalk.
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Just the laptop and they were on the boardwalk. Also I think her throwing the laptop was more symbolic then anything. And even if it does some how come back they will probably give it to Nolan to fix and he can just say Nope it is broken or none of the files are retrievable.
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You realize though that they manipulate the promos- it's very likely when he said "looking pretty good for a dead girl" he wasn't even talking to Emily, I bet he was looking at a wall photo of fauxAmanda- the show deliberates distorts the promos. A few weeks ago, in the promo, they had Victoria saying "Emily Thorne is a vicious opportunist who has put this family through hell for the last year and a half"- but that was in the promo, when the episode came, it was "she is a vicious opportunist who has put this family through hell for the last year and half"- the "she' was fauxAmanda, it wasn't Emily at all, They do that kind of thing constantly.
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True, lots of shows (including Revenge) do throw you a curve in the teasers... combining different scenes + lines to give you a false reveal.

But, based on the line given I give better than even odds that it's sincere. That he does (eventually) recognize her. Like 70% chance it's legit.
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Why would he say "looking pretty good for a dead girl" to a picture? Unless the picture is of Amanda's bloated, dead corpse and she happens to pull off that look.
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What? Why was it directed by Helen Hunt? She directed a Californication episode last year too. Is that what she's doing now? Directing random episodes of TV shows? TOO MANY QUESTIONS!
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Lots of actors transition into directing through television.
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Obviously, but this is still more than a little random.
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