Revolution "No Quarter" Review: Old Friends, New Enemies

Revolution S01E03: "No Quarter"

Look, I don't know if last night's episode of Revolution was any better than the first two, but I did notice some minor improvements over the course of this hour that rose above the problems that are endemic to the series. I'll lob a compliment with my backhand toward the show and say that "No Quarter" at least didn't seem as consistently bad as "Chained Heat" or the pilot, but that's not to say there weren't a lot of boneheaded decisions made by both the writers and the characters on screen. And just so we're clear: Revolution has a long way to go before I stop dreading Mondays. Garfield was psychic!

In keeping with the adventure-game analogy last week, this week's Level 1 tutorial quest had Miles and Charlie running one more task for Tight Yellow Tank Top Norah: Save some rebels from being slaughtered by the Monroe Militia. But really, the episode was all about Miles, and having a story with a point was just the kind of change of pace the show needed. What it also needed was guest-star Mark Pellegrino, who you should recognize from Supernatural and Being Human (this episode was a Being Human reunion between Pellegrino and Tracy Spiridakos!) and from the really old flashbacks on Lost. Pellegrino is genre television's bacon; he just makes everything better.

Pellegrino's Jeremy was a mean dude and one of the many micro-villains (Level 1 Boss) we'll see in the series moving forward. But it was his past connection to Miles that was scary. Miles got some badly needed character complexity when Jeremy told everyone that Miles was the former commanding general of the Monroe Militia and the second-in-command to Sebastian Monroe himself. Of course, this came as more of a shock to the characters than it did to us, as we've seen Miles in flashbacks with Monroe since the opening seconds of the pilot, but hey, as long as someone is getting a surprise out of this, right?

It's what transpired before that revelation that reminded us that Revolution is still a show working out some tangles and that the writers might want to take a few courses in military strategy or, you know, join the rest of the world and play five minutes of Call of Duty or something, because there was some supremely idiotic battle strategy going on. There was a scene where a rebel sniper was perched on top of the base—now surrounded by the Militia—to buy time for Miles while he came up with the genius plan to dig a tunnel out of the compound. The guy was a great shot, and Jeremy's men were taking headshots all over the place. That's because Jeremy chose to send his men out one at a time, right into the sniper's line of sight, with the hopes that the sniper would eventually run out of bullets. I think it's safe to say that even the most undecorated French grunt wouldn't do something as stupid as this. For a minute it felt like Revolution had become a comedy, as men were sent to their death in single file while Jeremy prayed for the never-ending supply of bullets to deplete. He even let out a sarcastic, "Terrific," when his right-hand man was debrained, a sure sign that at least one writer knew the whole scene was completely ridiculous. Obviously the correct strategy would've been to call in a tactical air strike, but other options might've included attacking en masse, laying cover fire while a small squad flanked the sniper, or, I don't know, waiting for him to reload. Just a thought. Genre shows need to know that the type of people who watch genre shows are also the type of people who own multiple gaming consoles and love action movies, so we have a bit of experience with this kind of stuff. Don't treat us like our power is out, too.

Eventually the sniper did run out of bullets, so I guess Jeremy can say "Haha!" to me, and the remaining Militia swarmed the building. Miles' brilliant tunnel plan literally collapsed on itself (thanks for wasting our time on that!), so you know what that meant: SWORDFIGHT! Jeremy was taken into custody because Miles displayed superior blade skills, and that's when he spilled the beans on Miles' previous job. Miles eventually came up with a plan to make everyone happy, and volunteered to be taken into custody in exchange for his friends' freedom. Jeremy agreed, and not too long after, the rebels blew up a bunch of stuff with bombs that were triggered by a tripwire, freeing Miles and don't ask me how they managed to get so far ahead of the Militia troops that they were able to stage an ambush with bombs, but they did! Oh, and Charlie channeled her inner Katniss and shot a flaming arrow into a satchel that was full of explosive stuff to blow up the bridge behind them so that Jeremy couldn't follow them. If you ignored all the details and logic, it was pretty impressive.

As usual, the flashbacks of how Miles actually first met Jeremy were a lot more interesting than the action in the "present" time. Six months after the blackout, Miles and Monroe came across a man being beaten by some thugs, so Miles shot the thugs to death and for once we saw some interesting ambiguity in a character. And you know who the guy getting beaten up was? Jeremy! That was pretty cool, I'll admit. Also predictable, I'll admit that too. But it served to inform us that Miles has more blood on his hands than the guy who delivered Octomom's babies, and that he could be a lot dirtier than he appears. I love how the show is using flashbacks, but that's three weeks in a row where we wished we were watching flashbacks the whole time.

The rest of the episode's 43 minutes were devoted mostly to unimpressive adventures for other characters. Danny's still being held captive, and to show us that he's still alive the writers threw in some story of an angry guard who was holding a grudge because Danny killed his friend with a crossbow. It really amounted to the guard threatening Danny a bunch over and over and hitting him with a sack full of something that's apparently heavy enough to really hurt but also light enough to be swung around like a pillow. And the story came to a conclusion when Danny faked an asthma attack (that old trick!) and choked out the guard after the guard all of a sudden became very concerned for Danny's well-being. Angry guard who wants Danny to suffer, you're doing it wrong!

Meanwhile, Aaron and Maggie hiked to Grace's farm to get to the bottom of the whole power-outage thing, but instead they found a bunch of boxes of computer guts. Then Aaron told a painful (to us) story about how he was bullied in school by Billy Underwood and then he had the audacity to compare the wedgies he used to suffer to the murderous rampages committed by the Monroe Militia. This was supposed to endear us to Aaron, but instead it made me hate the guy more than anyone else on the show. We get it dude, you were a nerd, you got rich, and now you aren't rich anymore. Guess what, it's pretty tough for everyone else out there, too, in case you haven't noticed. I realllllly hope Billy Underwood makes an appearance on the show and splits Aaron in two with a super-wedgie.

And after that stupid story, the magic USB locket pulsed on, providing wireless power to a nearby clock radio and Maggie's phone. This was the hook that's supposed to make us come back next week, and so far it's the most intriguing thing that's happened in the series. Far better than last week's abduction of Grace by a man with no head, a thread that was never touched on in this episode.

It was another middling week for Revolution thanks to disjointed mythology reveals and another story-of-the-week that went nowhere (though at least we learned more about Miles). NBC may trumpet the early ratings for the show, but I can hear people fighting each other to jump off this horse-drawn bandwagon.



NOTES

– It's nice to see that, according to the flashbacks, no one except Charlie has visibly aged since the blackout happened.

– I was hoping that at the end of Jeremy's speech about the scarcity of bullets, he was going to chop off the head of the rebel with a sword. But instead, he wasted a perfectly good bullet. C'mon, Jeremy! Reduce, Reuse, Recycle.

– I know the acting hasn't been great, but last night it was awful. How does Daniella Alonso (Nora) continue to get jobs?

– There was only a flicker of Neville in this episode, and no Rachel or Grace. That's an episode without the show's strongest actor, not to mention the two people who are currently in the most interesting situations. So I guess it's a good sign that this episode wasn't noticeably more awful than the first two?


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-It's too beautiful in the present but just right in the flashbacks.

-The acting is atrocius (like my spelling).

-The writing shows glimpses of promises.



I'll give it the old 4-5 episode test, I've seen worst this season (Partners etc).
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Really? Every 15 minutes? Wow .. stop spending so much time posting comments on this site and go make some money then!!
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i'm very worried about this series...but mark pellegrino can only help...i like him in everything...remeber him as dexter's wife rita's 1st hubby...from prison he came and after some domestic abuse dexter took care of him...
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Mmm... entertaining but nothing amazing... so will give it some more time before making my mind up...
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For what its worth, I liked this episode very much. The flaws may be there, but the big improvements in characters, the story and everything in this episode makes me believe that this show is worth sticking to.
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Charlie is sooo damn annoying , really they should switch her speech , i really hate her allready .
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I see no real reason to hate her.
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I love her!
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I finally figured out the thing that has been bugging me so much. Everyone just looks so perfect! Beautiful hair, clean skin and clothes, perfect white teeth. Everyone seems to have wonderfully glowing skin. Why would they want the power back? They don't seem to be suffering much at all.
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Yeah, that may look artificial, but at least it gives the show a different look from other post apocalyptic shows where people are all dirty and wearing rags.
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They have Tera Nova'd it. Another network show with an "almost" entire cast hired on their looks instead of whether or not they have any character or can act above a high school play level. Giancarlo Esposito is the only good thing on the show. This show will be dead in a very short time because the networks don't know how to hire actors with character that can actually act. And if they have been without power for 15 years why does everything look so clean and new?
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Still waiting to like this show... I'm glad that there are still people who like it enough to give it a chance to get better, because I am still holding out hope it will improve. It has all of the possibility to be something great, but so far it seems like not very intelligent people are writing/directing/producing this show. Or maybe it is the network imposing their poor show ideas on the writers and directors of the show, and giving us this mediocre pap? I don't know, but the acting is frequently embarrassingly bad. The main character, Charlie, often does and says idiotic things and is not very likeable. (Half the time when she is on screen I roll my eyes and say, Are you kidding me?!) The current time plot is silly and sometimes it seems like middle schoolers thought it up. (I agree, the flashbacks are the best parts of the show so far.) There is a promising premise and a few great actors here, but the execution thus far is sub-par. Crossing my fingers the show rights the ship and turns things around...
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One thing I don't understand ... How are they going to explain that it's called the Monroe Republic and not the Matthysen Republic? It's pretty obvious that Miles was the leader of the 2, before the lights went out.
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Yes, that's a very interesting issue. Somehow, somewhere, Monroe took over and Miles deserted him, as we know. I'm curious to find out how that part of the story unfolded.
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Me too, actually. The few months after the black-out are the most interesting parts of the story so far.
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I'm pretty sure, and I'm only spit-balling here, Matthysen (after having been depicted as a total douche in the flashbacks) will find a conscience some time later after already convincing Monroe of his controlling worldview. There will be a tussle between the two old friends (perhaps over a beloved woman or innocent child or perhaps even about his family -- or maybe something slightly less cliche.) If I'm wrong, then I'll give this show a few more points. And I'll also eat my chair. [Hint: I hope I'm wrong.]
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i think you're right .. the fact that Rachel (is that her name?) is Monroe's hostage, probably has something to do with it.
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Jeremy obviously never played more than 10 minutes of Quake when he was growing up .. that was the most ridiculous tactic I've ever seen. "You don't have a chance against the militia. They are the best ... because I trained them" pffft .. whatever, man. You obviously aren't that great of a teacher if your commanding officer is a moron.
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He didn't say they were the best. Miles said they were vicious and relentless, which they are. Not military geniuses.
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I was paraphrasing .. I didn't feel like rewinding for the correct wording. In any case, Miles made it pretty clear that you shouldn't be fighting these guys .. because you will lose!

Sorry, I don't find it believable after what happened in this episode.
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I admit I was paraphrasing too. My interpretation is that the militia would win because they are badasses, and being bad and obedient to Monroe and his lieutenants is what counts in this new world order.
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Does this also explain why someone with such impeccable aim with a sniper rifle doesn't think to shoot at the commanding officer when he's sitting there in plain view? Fine; pick off the first or second immediate threats, but Jeremy wasn't going anywhere for a few shots. It's a basic tactic known to anyone who can wield a rifle like that guy did.
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I thought the same, why doesn't he aim at Pellegrino? For some reason TV characters never aim at the commanders, because that would signify the end of the story for some important character. But then it occurred to me that in a real situation perhaps it wouldn't be so easy to identify the leader in a crowd of soldiers so you end up shooting those that come closer to you.
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yeah .. obviously common sense disappeared together with the electricity :-)
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Only slightly less boring than the first two, but still pretty bad. I think I actively hate almost every character on this show. I promised Kripke one more episode, but that's it.
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Still undecided, even though I'm partial to post-apocolyptics and conspiracies. This show has been sluggish, and IMO, the teen girl is too idealistic for someone that grew up in such a violent atmosphere.



But the Tesla-Wireless-Battery has me intrigued. Maybe she was working on it before the power went down, and her evil boss used her tech to kill off wired-power, so he'd make a bundle of cash, but not comprehending the havoc it would wreak until it was too late.
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The cogs are falling into place. I officially predict that this is going to be the best new drama of the season, even over Last Resort. Btw Tim, not many could see Miles being the founder of Monroe Republic.

PS: Could someone tell me the name of the song at the end of the episode? The music in the show is one of the highlights.
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2 things:

- How on earth did you not see that coming? Miles has been shown with Monroe since the beginning.

- How do you not know "that song at the end of the episode"? Sacrilege! :-)
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All we know is that Sebastian and Miles were friends early on. We don't know much of what happened after the blackout.
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The way its been shown is like Miles and Sebastian have had a falling out when Monroe decided he wanted to rule over everybody, create a new form of government and Miles didn't want a government which takes away so many rights from the citizens. I always thought Monroe created the Republic and Miles had a falling out with him in the early stages. The idea that he could be the one who started it all never came to mind since he just wants to be left alone to live in peace with his booze.

I only listen to classics if they are on my favorite shows. So I had never heard of this awesome song.
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It's funny how people perceive different things when watching .. I had no doubts about it since the very beginning - it didn't feel like such a massive reveal.

I gotta say though, it wasn't as obvious as the big "reveal" at the end of season 6 of Dexter .. that was really bad.
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That was a fantastic piece.

Marvin Gaye - I Heard It Through The Grapevine
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Thank you!
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I officially gave up with this episode. Too many other things to watch and I like to keep my dvr from getting too crowded.
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The bad thing about this episode was that there was zero tension during the stand-off. It's redundant to have Charlie and friends worry that they're going to die with every gunshot outside when it turns out that one guy is one-shotting an army.
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The tension was there were more of them than the sniper could take care of, even with an advantage in firepower and position. He was a delaying tactic--not a solution.
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I just want to point out the obvious. There is a heck of a lot of chatter about a show that people are claiming is a terrible show. If that's truly how so many of you feel.....then why do you keep watching when you feel it's a waste of time? A better question is, why do you bother taking the time to post about a show you claim to not support? Perhaps some of you actually enjoy the show but are afraid to give it any kudos because a few online critics have posted their negative reviews. Well, I'm not afraid to speak my mind. I enjoy the show very much and look forward to watching the evolution of "Revolution". Peace, D.
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"Why do you keep watching" isn't a very good question after only 3 episodes, especially when a lot of the people who are complaining also claim to be done with the show. If there had been 20 episodes already (think Falling Skies) it would have made sense to ask. A partial answer for that situation is that many of us find bad shows with an element of sci-fi more interesting than any of the shows with *no* story and no sci-fi. Poor storytelling is really annoying, but it's still better than no story at all.

Your "better" question is actually worse. It makes at least as much sense to post the reasons why a show disappoints you as it does to post the reasons why a show pleases you.
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I don't like the show so far, so I can give you 3 reasons why I post here anyway:

- I would like to see what other people think of the show, especially the ones that are for the show. Maybe there is something I'm missing? With Terra Nova, I often asked people why they liked the show .. never got an actual answer.

- I believe in the 4 episode test. If I don't have any interest after 4 episodes (sometimes 5, even 6), I will stop watching and might therefore stop posting. You'll see a big drop in comments towards the end of the season, if this show doesn't improve soon.

- Even after you stop watching, it's still worthwhile reading Tim's reviews, just for the laughs - he's very good at shredding bad shows to pieces.

Having said that - this show is not that bad. I haven't given up on it yet. It's definitely not the disaster of epic proportions that Terra Nova was.
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Agree. 219 posts for show hate? What's up with that?
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No, I have seen equal amount of comments and people who have love for the show here.
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I was saying the number of posts is way too high to explain by just people like to hate on stuff on the Internet. Why all the attention if the show is SO bad.
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There are over 260 posts, for this site that's a lot, and it is a lot more than Last Resort, which the reviewer responded positively too. I'm not saying that people can't post about shows they don't like. I find Last Resort to have many logical fallacies, I post about that. I am saying why so much attention? It's a couple of weeks in, it isn't the new kid and it isn't the only wildly hyped new show. Why are people so engaged with it, if they find it so boring and unlikable?
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This was a highly anticipated and highly advertised show from a writer (Kripke) who created and ran another show (Supernatural) whose biggest strengths were its characters and actors. This show has flat characters, mediocre actors, poor storytelling, and a premise that requires more suspension of disbelief than most people are able to give.

I also find it odd that *you* (a person who has posted negative comments about Last Resort) have trouble understanding why people post negative comments about something that disappoints them.
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There is obviously a lot of demand for good SciFi. And a huge disappointment if a show with so much potential turns out to be boring. Was pretty much the same with Terra Nova. I kind of gave up on Revolution, but probably still watch it for the lack of any good alternative.

The the time would be more than right for a new BSG, and good SciFi may become a huge hit, if anyone would just do it right.
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So you never talk about something you don't like? Never ever? Like, when you go to the movies and the film is terrible, you simply never speak of it again instead of saying something like "Hey, this flick was aweful". We keep (kept) watching because we like postapocalyptic dramas and badly wanted this show to be at least watchable and hoped badly for it to improve. It didn't. They advertise it as a TV Shows that adults can watch, it's not, it's aimed at maybe 15 year old girls who enjoyed Twilight and the Hunger Games. In short: It's garbage.
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I, for one watch because I like it, and there are many people who also do. I've explained my point of view in earlier posts.



I agree Twilight is stupid, but I'd say Hunger Games is quite good, and I'm not a girl, and I'm way over 15.
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Seriously, this show is nothing like Twilight or Hunger Games. Did you even read those books?
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I didn't have to read the books to learn they are totally different!
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I don't know who the 'we' implies. But I'm a guy and 'we' (me and my friends) all love this show. We're all adults and we don't care whether girls or guys like Twilight and The Hunger Games garbage (how nice of you to stereotype young girls. I know for a fact that many of my cousins and friends, who are guys, enjoy them)

This show is one of the best of the season and if you can't accept that, move along.
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"This show is one of the best of the season and if you can't accept that" See, the thing is, that pretty much all the critics and all the facts agree that it's one of the worst new shows (bad acting, incredibly large plot holes [the authors obviously don't know what electricity is and maybe someone should tell them that planes and cars don't need it to run], unbelievable and annoying characters [yes Charlie, I'm looking at you], bad writing [especially the dialogue] and a complete lack of tension).

YOU are still allowed to like it. But the facts say something else. So yoru arguement "It's totally great! OMG! Don't say anything against it! Please, you are only allowed to talk about the show if you like it." doesnt work, sorry.

Oh, and if you had read the post I was replying to you would know who "we" are. And I'm not stereotyping anyone, I said it's aimed at girls who enjoyed Twilight and the Hunger Games which it is, I didn't say all young girls enjoyed those movies or this show.

And by the way: You are not a guy. Look, I enjoy Supernatural too, it's a great show that unlike Revolution manages to remain entertaining and suspenseful even when the writing isn't always perfect, mainly because of it's likeable characters - but putting beauty shots of male actors as ones profile photos is exclusively done by young girls, not by guys and especially not by adult guys, i.e. men.
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I don't agree that "all facts agree" that the show is bad. This is obviously your opinion. And do you blindly follow what TV critics say? If they say something bad do you automatically agree without a judgment of your own? I know Tim doesn't like it, but the ratings have been solid and the show has been received a full season order. it's not perfect, but it's a fine show.



And another example that your facts are wrong is that Hunger Games is much better than you account for. I liked the movie, and I'm not a young girl. So much for stereotyping.
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If this show was aimed at amusing pubescent teenage girls who like to oogle love triangle, I have to ask: where are the attractive men? Where is the love story?
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Pretty much all the critics except Tim agree that this show is getting better with every episode. Google the reviews for the show and you can find tons. I enjoy everything about it, warts and all since I'm invested in the characters and the story.

I know that, but you saying 'we' could mean all the rest of us, hated the show just wasn't right man. You should have just used 'I'!

What! I'm not allowed to like and put whomever I want on my profile just because I'm a guy? Sexist much!! (I'm straight fyi. Its just that Dean Winchester has been my role model since I was 15 and Supernatural is my most favorite show)
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The problem with the Iphone (beyond the fact that it should have never had power), is even it the device was to somehow give it power, she never had to turn it on! it just came on. Ive never owned a smartphone that didnt need to boot up.



I wont even get into how it turned off.... :-/
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Um...they showed it booting up...with the apple icon?
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Was it theirs or hers device in final episode? I felt like their device had a "rounded" button while the lady had a circle button. Maybe theirs only have the information on what happend and how to stop it.

I guess the device stopping global power was some sort of millitary experimental weapon they could use on millitary missions to stop the enemy from using technology like surveilence or major opperation like stopping power supply of whole countries, exept it failed and stopped the power of the whole world and they couldnt shut it down or its a unmaintained effect that need some kind of imput to shut it down.



Also people that strugling whith cars and stuff they all use electricity to run so it woulnt work anyway. I guess in later episode we will see monroes gang have a steam train in use for super secret missions, they were last used in any amount for 150 years ago and you dont find them in your local hardware store lying around, also i dont think people that know how to drive these machines is commonly found around, driving a steam train is not just sitting in a car seat and pressing pedals.
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I thought the same thing about people not aging. Isn't it supposed to have been 15 years? That time passes by no one without some visible signs of aging. Oh well, except for Patrick Stewart of course, but that's a different story.



I am also wondering what that Magic Power-Thingy does. So far I think that there must be some sort of dampening field that prevents electricity from doing anything and the little thingy cancels that effect.

I can't imagine that it SUPPLIES the power, too small for that. I assume that there's a generator and/or battery pack somewhere in the house, but the question remains why the iPhone worked. I highly doubt that the battery will have any juice left after 15 years and it's not exactly equiped to receive power wirelessly.
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The iPhone's still working battery makes perfect sense as there wouldn't be any seepage/discharge of electrons for all those years.

The amulet must supply/transfer power as well as negate some form of blanket that's not allowing electricity to flow.

Well Miles and Jeremy had different hairstyles, lots of makeup if that counts. I'm just happy they didn't go with other younger actors and make it ridiculous. Why do that when you have such amazing actors!
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Chemical batteries still discharge when they are not being used, it takes longer than if you were making use of the electrical potential but they will still revert to their uncharged state after some time. If whatever magical plot fart they're using to prevent current from flowing also prevents ion transfer you can say goodbye to biological life along with batteries. Yet another piece of evidence that this show belongs squarely within the domain of anti-science fiction. It's just sad that people are willing to swallow this lukewarm bullshit.
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I have never seen a genre show that completely abides by the rules of science (hence the fiction that accompanies it) and I've seen a lot. If you hate a show/movie solely based on that, then I have news for you.
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The genre title of Science Fiction at least implies that you are going to make an attempt at realism. If you want to throw all of the laws of nature out the window and have a bunch of elves and wizards prancing around with wands up their bum then write a Fantasy novel, don't try to pass that schlock off as Sci-Fi.
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Well, my guess is that if electrical power cannot be used because, somehow, electrons cannot move in electrical devices (like kinda "frozen"), then the battery could not discharge...



Anyway, this whole premise as no scientific base, makes no sense, and is just there to keep viewers wondering for as many seasons as possible. So lets not expect any intelligent explanation, if any... now or later.

Same with why the governments have collapsed. They have avoided the subject since the start because it also makes no sense and they can never come up with an intelligent explanation.
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I agree iphone was a little dubious after 15 years, but still if you keept it in really good care its acceptable fault that it might work after that time, but i would guess it would not run for wery long anyway.

I agree also that the USB device must be some sort of device that cancels the effect that stops all energy to work and the lady, have som sorts of powersupply in basement. I guess the USB device also can run out of power, since it seemed it did when it stopped working.
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I have always had issues with end of the world shows where it's PG rated. It just seems so fake and shallow. Sure they are trying to increase the audience by allowing all ages to see it, I get that but there are plenty of other genre's that do that well.



Like if you compare walking dead to this show, the people in there look ruffed up, there is blood, gore and it just looks a lot more realistic. Some of the actors on this show look like they have stepped out of makeover studio with perfectly good looking clothing.
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Thank God this isn't an end of the world or post apocalyptic show. There are way too many of such movies and shows. And along with that, the clean clothes and neat environment also makes sense because its NOT an end of the world show!

Walking Dead is on a cable channel, AMC and they can go pretty hardcore in it. That said, Revolution has some of the most awesome 'network' deaths I've seen in a long time. Atleast people get bloodied and die, unlike 99% of the rest of the shows.
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You can't wear the same clothes for a month and still be clean, post apocalypse or not.
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That's not even close to true. The entire premise of the show negates your point. They literally show the apocalypse happen in the first few minutes of the pilot and then set the story fifteen years in the future. Most characters remember the previous society, there are a lot of flashbacks to pre black out life, yet the show fails to address how the societies differ and how the characters cope with that.



Why structure the story in a way that raises these questions only to waste the entire premise? Revolution could have taken place 3000 years in the future and it wouldn't have made a difference.



This show is basically Xena warrior princess with a post apocalyptic veneer as an excuse to add depth to an otherwise shallow adventure show
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Because that's where the entire thing that will eventually lead to a revolution started. You have to understand why people are the way they are. How the new Republic was formed! Why there is discontent among the people. The reason for putting it just 15 years in the future and still having 4-5 mins of flashbacks in each episode is to make us feel for the characters whose lives have been literally ripped by the blackout and the forming of militia.
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@DutchZ: Each and every character's life and the way they perceive the world and live their life on Revolution has been defined by the blackout. I don't understand what you're getting at.

BSG and Firefly are space sci-fi's. So, they could do anything and chalk it up to ingenuity (I love those two shows). Walking Dead has the privilege of being on a cable channel who give plenty of time for their shows to find their footing (The first half of season 2 was horrible).

Now that its out of the woods with a full season order and being the highest rated new drama, you just need to give Revolution a fighting chance so it can iron out all the little kinks and fire on all cylinders. The characters are already becoming worth investing in
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I understand that. All I am saying they could have done that in just about any setting or time. Shows like Battlestar Galactica, The Walking Dead, and even Jericho handled the fallout of the apocalypse much better. The apocalypse in Revolution serves as an justification to save money on set design and costumes and cram exposition down our throats. Even in Firefly (while not the apocalypse) the defeat of the rebels served a major event that defined the characters and the world they inhabited. Revolution has none of that.
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Plus considering the timeline difference, this is 15 years after the blackout. And they all don't look like it.



Their mode of transportation is horseback for the militia or on foot for the general population for the past 15 years, yet no one is haggard-looking.
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For me that's the problem with this show. Some of the images are quite beautiful, but I always expect Dorothy and Toto to pop around the corner. Some sets look so 'dressed up', that they actually increase the lack of struggle of these caracters.
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Look, I don't know if the last Timmy review of Revolution was any better than the first two but the show itself is looking solid.

The characters are being developed with back stories and the storyline has several directions that can be explored.

While not as serious of Sci-Fi as some previous Sci-Fi oriented shows it does entertain and avoid the juvenile feel of network shows like Terra Nova.

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I agree with this. The reviewer is just on a warpath against this show. But atleast he had enough sense to admit the show did get better (even though it was a backhanded compliment)
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They need to immediately push Pellegrino into one of the main cast as soon as possible. He's just that damn good, the rest of the cast is okay but they need someone that draws attention to the series. This show isn't full of real protagonists that can carry the show, so they need a villain to do it, at least for now.
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That's true, but Pellegrino's role is too similar to Esposito's, so both would be overlapping in the "secondary villain" role. Unless one of them takes a different turn and joins the rebels, or acts as an independent.
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In a nutshell : A lot of unnecessary killings [magically bloodless], a pair of very obviously fake glasses [come on, guys!?] and miles and miles and miles of very fake ivy. How did television come to this?

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When has killings on tv and movies ever been 'necessary'? People who are telling the show is bloodless, I really have to question your eyesight. In this episode alone:

- When Jeremy was interrogating the rebel, he had deep gashes and bruises and bloodied all over!

- When Miles and Monroe came across the dead couple, the bodies were horrible, cold and again with visible blood,

- When Miles shot the two guys who were roughing up Jeremy, they clearly showed the bullet wounding them.

Revolution shows more bloody, realistic deaths than most of the network shows.

Nobody cares about the glasses!
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Is there a rule in the actors guild or something, that if you're a main character in the shows title sequence you have to appear in some fashion in every episode? Or is it more of an unwritten rule? Like Danny's story was completely unnecessary, other than to give him and Giancarlo contract mandated screen time? Actually, come to think of it, was Elizabeth Mitchell in the episode at all? She's a title sequence star I believe.
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A good episode which improved greatly from the last two. Really liked the Shawshank Redemption shoutout and loved that his plan to literally dig himself out of the situation didn't work out.

"Sooner or later they are coming in. So we're gonna Shawshank our asses outta here."

Pellegrino is a brilliant actor and he was bloody ruthless. Tactical failure, but ruthless nonetheless. Wonder what the Monroe Republic did to the soldiers who fear their Generals more than the oncoming bullets!

Miles being the founder of the Republic was a total surprise. The whole scene was brilliantly written. Him killing the two men while Monroe tried to get him away was one hell of a scene. Can't wait for the next episode.
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Agreed! Love the nods to Stephen King and Shawshank Redemption!
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I always appreciate reading your comments. They are so much more intelligent than others. Peace, D.
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I agree much better episode than the first two. Think they're picking great actors to play the villains (Pellegrino and Esposito).



I've noticed several references to Stephen King besides the Shawshank one. Miles introduced himself and Charlie to the rebels as Stu Redman and Frannie (both from The Stand). And in the last episode the dark stranger that came to Grace's house seemed to be named Randall.



Here's to hoping it continues to improve since it now has a full season order.
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lol I agree about the camper (sniper) scene. It was pretty ridiculous. Overall it was a pretty good episode. I'd give it a 7.5.
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Shouldn't the iPhone or the CD batteries have died after 15 years?.. Even if the magic USB made electricity exist anymore, it still can't be that magic that send wireless electricity to gadgets that have no technical properties to receive wireless electricity...

I hate it when there is a dialogue and you just scream at the TV: Oh come on Miles! At least try explaining why you started the militia. Just say 'well it was lawless and brutal out there, people were being killed right on the street in plain sight, there was no order.. What else were we supposed to do?!'

You know that's the way a NORMAL dialogue would have gone. It would be instinct. And neither Charlie nor Miles indicated that that's exactly what they thought or how it was... It's just so damn frustrating when characters don't even try to defend themselves especially when they are at least partially right. It is painfully obvious a person would not at that way.
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That iPhone and its casing/bumper looked brand new. It did not seem like a gadget that she clung to for 15 years.



And seriously, not even a red bar on the battery icon? That thing looks like its battery was charged at ~10%. Unrealistic.
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One possibility is that the same force that has prevented electrical current would also prevent the energy drain on batteries, which is just unwanted and wasted electrical current. It's possible that every battery on the planet is just as charged as it was 15 years ago.

And we're also not sure that the "magic USB" created the temporary electrical field. It may have been responding to a field locked to that location just like the phone and CD player. We just don't know.
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bullshit.

Trust me I'm an engineer
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Well, I trust you on the subject of bullshit. Does that count?
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Oh and another that bother me

I guess the Medellin with the USB inside can jump start the power around him

but how can it jump start the Internet which is so far away from Grace house
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I read somewhere that they intended to make Revolution the Star Wars of TV shows.



We have the rebels and the imperials.

Miles isn't smart, charismatic or funny enough to be Han Solo, he may be a mix of the young Obi Wan and Han Solo, just in stupid.

Nora is Chewbacca, just not fixing space ships but making bombs.

Google guy makes a good combination of C3PO and Jar Jar Binks.

Charlie may be young Luke, just in even more naive.

Her brother may not be saved and become Anakin, the next Darth Vader.

Monroe may be Count Dooku.

We don't know who is behind all this as the emperor, but judging from the shows story so far, I'm sure he must live somewhere next door.

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The acting are bad, with some exceptions especially Giancarlo Esposito and Zak Orth and sometimes Billy Burke. With production values so great i don't understand why the cast is so awful.
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I agree with others, whats with all the disdain? I like the show for what it is, and it actually has executed the story pretty well given the parameters established so far. I like it and will continue to watch!
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Okay, I've read the review and for the second week straight all the bashing in the comments. Two things:

1) It is not a post-apocalyptic show. It never was. They aren't doing post-apocalyptic badly, they aren't doing it all. Period. Charlie didn't grow up in a crazy mean world, she is an idealistic, sheltered girl. The colors, the clothes, whatever, the art direction is showing you a blank slate layered on top of an old world. Some people know the old world, some people like the new better, but the universe is not in a state of chaos, it isn't eating itself alive trying to survive, we're past that.

2) The show isn't as simplistically stupid as you are making it out. The military decision make sense given weaponry and terrain and the fact that this is a TV show. Last Resort is about to have a couple of submariners who haven't held a gun since basic training take on a Delta Force squad, the poor guys should be dead in seconds, but they won't be. That is unrealistic. Waiting for a guy to run out of bullets is devaluing human life which went along with the entire message of the episode. Which is part of the second point: They Are Saying Stuff. It isn't just fluff and it makes sense with what they've told us. Take a breath and think before you decide it is ridiculous because unlike your kneejerk reaction they did research. They are trying things together and developing character and showing you clear motivation and emotion. Stop being silly and think.
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Very nice post, well done Sir.
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James Bond, Indiana Jones, Aliens... there are many unrealistic movies, unrealistic stories and especially unrealistic Fantasy and SciFi. And who the hell cares about clothing or makeup?

The point about this show isn't about realism, it's about why don't we sit on the edge of our chairs, having so much fun not to care about realism? As it is with all the above mentioned movies or shows like Lost, POI, Alphas etc.

Revolution simply isn't good enough to draw our attention to the story and action on the screen, away from questions about realism or even makeup. That's the main problem of the show and that's why it can't get away with it.
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People came in with a bunch of preconceived notions and instead of watching and adjusting they keep whining about the same stuff. Even though science and show have both been explained time and time again. Either think through what is actually in front of you or stop whining because you can't follow a very straight forward story with one a few main characters and a coherent narrative thread.



Lots of posters are caring about clothing and makeup. Either Charlie is too pretty or she isn't pretty enough. The clothes aren't dirty enough, they aren't using steam power, blah, blah, blah. They want to engage in the world, but they refuse to look at the world that the show is actually presenting.
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Because what the show is presenting so far simply isn't fun to watch.

It's boring. And Charlie and Google nerd are the most boring characters in SciFi since Terra Nova.
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Its more than fun - Its exciting and awesome. Charlie isn't boring like Josh. She's quite good. I advise you to stop watching if you hate it that much without enjoying anything about it.
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Tim isn't being silly. If anything, I think he missed on a couple of incredibly stupid things that happened this episode. While you're entitled to your opinion, so is he and everyone else. Fortunately for us, your opinion will turn out to be wrong when the show is cancelled 7-8 episodes in.



Thanks for contributing!
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Wearing that special hat that makes you see the future again?
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We'll see at the end of the season. It's been picked up for a full order and the ratings are quite good. So, let's talk then.
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Reading the reviews I am really baffled, nobody seems content with anything. It's all "I don't like this, I don't like that"; the typical behaviour of spoiled little childern that received a gift but it wasn't 100% exactly how they wanted.



Now, I understand a reviewer has to look at the show and express his opinion, but all other people don't, so if u really hate it, tune to another channel, and please stop annoying people that actually like some light entertainment and are not looking for some deep meaning in it.

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What a load of crap. I guess us among the unwashed masses should just shut up and swallow everything we're fed through the oh-so-discerning medium that is television. Of course critical thinking and basic literary standards are above such menial slobs as we and should be reserved for 'professionals' (ha!) alone.



If people don't stand up and demand better then we're just going to get buried neck deep in this facile tripe.
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"I understand a reviewer has to look at the show and express his opinion, but all other people don't."



On behalf of the internet, I welcome you. We will all let that one slide; you must be new here.



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Talk about arrogance. Talking for all people. You must be new everywhere.
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This coming from someone that wrote, "all other people don't." need to express their opinions. What is more arrogant? To speak for all or feel you have the right to limit the speech of others.
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Actually, this series is so bad now that I don't even enjoy watching them for the sake of your reviews Tim. I was doing that with the hopeless Terra Nova, but this gives me no satisfaction at all.

It seems to be made by children for children. No intellect at all is needed and every actor seems as legit as would it be days of our lives or similar..

I get upset when I watch it, that the plot and exection is so tame and uninteresting. I can't believe how the tv companys find an excuse to spend millions of dollars of bullcrap like this, over and over.

Just like with Terra Nova, the creators try to make a series with ingrediences that should suit "everyone" instead of going all in on one or two focus groups. And just like Terra Nova they fail big time. The parts that should suit me, feels as exciting and well done as in the old lame Hercules series in an (not by far) prettier package. I wouldn't mind if the series wasn't directed at me, I could appreciate and respect something that I feel is well executed.

This just feels like a budget daytime show in wich they have spent to much money.
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Yes, this is exactly like Terra Nova. Children loved watching brutal murders, flawed characters and intense drama there as well.

Seems legit.
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"brutal murders", "flawed characters", "intense drama" ?? Please tell me what show you're watching so I can tune in..



If you don't understand the meaning of my post, and the apparent use of "children" to emphasize how cheap this series is.. well I can't do much about that.
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I understood well enough. You definitely didn't realize that I used 'children' according to your own terms. It was more of a comparison to how different this show is to that monstrosity.
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Soder, I don't recall such violence in Terra Nova. I don't recall characters as conflicted and rough like Miles. And I do not recall Terra Nova being as intense as Revolution has been so far.



Revolutions is NOT a family friendly show, which is evident considering why it is on so late.
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Okey, but according to me Revolution and Terra Nova are two peas in a pod. Sure, one had some dinosaurs (hardly any though), and the other doesnt. The rest of the shows are exactly the same imo. Bad acting/actors, high budget, bad/no story, and so on.
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This episode was not bad at all. I enjoy the flashbacks because they fill in the blanks that the present day characterization has created. The only thing that really annoys me, even more so than bone headed military tactics is the "we can't make bullets" bull. They can forge swords, pack muskets thus use gunpowder but the ability to hand make bullets ceased to exist when the power went out?! This logic pothole may be too much for me. It's just too hard to believe that muskets work but hand making your bullets with casings is impossible. Please tell me why!
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Machining modern bullet casings is an incredibly delicate and precise process. You are talking fractions of millimeters for tolerances. You can't really do that on a forge. Modern guns are very precise, computer precise, not hammer and chisel. If you don't have that precision, guns jams, misfire, don't shoot straight, break. Copper is also probably extremely difficult to find. Instead of deciding it doesn't make sense, think that you have no idea how to make bullets, think who does? How many blacksmiths are out there anymore? The dude at the ren fair doesn't actually know how to do anything. Communication is down, it's not like you can Google the guy or check the phone book. If one dude knows how to hand machine parts like they did 150 years ago, good luck finding him and let's hope he's not dead and he also knows mining and how to get a line to South America because we used up all our mines in the Eastern US quite a while ago.
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Admittedly I am not an expert in firearms butI am not referring to the ammunition you would need for modern weapons. I understand that would be much more difficult and dependent on electronic machinery. I was thinking along the lines of the guns of the old west. In the world of Revolution it has only been 15 years since the lights went out but I believe this is plenty of time rediscover the post electrical technologies of the 19th century. I bothers me because it's almost as if the writers are portraying the survivors of the disaster as simpletons who have forgotten the all the technological progress that took place prior to the 21st century.
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Bullet casings aren't machined, they're drawn out from punched disks using a die. Machining would be incredibly wasteful and overly complex whereas using a die simply involves pressure and friction and could easily be powered by a steam engine. In a world where electricity is no longer a concern copper would most likely be one of the most abundant materials as there are now thousands upon thousands of building and appliances that can be stripped of the stuff. Plus, casings don't necessarily have to be brass, they can also be made from steel or aluminum.



As for the know how, curious people such as myself are obviously familiar with the process and also with the machine tools necessary to implement and refine it. Given time, some dedicated work and the right books most people who are passingly familiar with a toolbox could learn the machinist's trade and build most of the tools required by themselves. Check out David Gingery's 'Metalworking shop from scrap' series if you're interested in doing it on the weekend. Before the internet, people found such books at their local library and I don't believe that institution has quite gone extinct yet.



As for taking up mining, what a laugh. As I mentioned, in the Revolution 2012 world, people are living in their own personal scrap yard. They wouldn't be able to throw a stone without hitting something they could use, no ticket to South America necessary lol. Oh and FYI, Michigan is right up there along with Brazil and Eastern Canada for iron production so the raw stuff isn't as far away as you seem to think it is.
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He was referring to the difficulty that involves to make precision-based (which need exact cuts or else they're useless) bullets needed for snipers and other heavy artillery when there's no more power to produce them.
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"Look, I don't know".



Yup
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*sigh*

Charlie, Charlie, Charlie. Why not just name her Mary Sue right away and be done with it?

She never misses a shot, she's always quick on her feet, she can outpace and outsmart any militia (see plothole from "The Emperor's New Groove" - "How did they get here ahead of us?" - "Well, see, we... You know, it actually doesn't make sense. Nevermind". :p), she's always sensitive yet tough as nails, and it's just SO BORING!



Miles, with his "slowly" revealed past is far more interesting, and I haven't given up on Danny yet, if he ever gets a chance to actually DO anything.

And yes, lovely to have Mark P. aboard, LOVED him in Supernatural and would like to see more interactions between Miles and him. :)

And I can totally see the desire/need to set up a tough, no-nonsense type militia/governing force to deal with a chaotic, destructive dystopic environment - most of our techniques for dealing with offenders against society's rules are rendered obsolete in the sort of post-apocalyptic setting we see here.

Prison? Not so much.

Shunning? Need to have a community to shun them FROM.

Physical punishment? Well, if they survive, they're just going to be MORE pissed when they come back/move on to steal more food.

So yeah, capital punishment would seem the only sensible choice under the circumstances, if you're a soldier at heart and dealing with the complete collapse of everything you know.

Besides, stealing the last food a person has, is murder, meaning killing them is self defence or in defence of another, unlike killing someone over your new TV, say.

So I don't really have a big problem with Miles turning into Judge Dredd - not only were the thugs prepared to let people starve to death - they seemed to get off on killing them slowly and painfully as well.



And by the way - I agree they should have killed the captured rebell with a sword, or by hanging. WAAAAAASTE! :p
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The militia was lumbering along with several people while our small team outpaced them and rigged the bridge, which was probably the only way and they knew Jeremy had to take that route. That wasn't a plothole.

P.S: Charlie is nothing like that boring Katniss! Read the books!
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As a fan of the post-apocalypse genre, I had hopes for this new show but after 3 episodes, which I think is a fair trial, I'm over it. There is nothing compelling about this show and I'm starting to think that I would prefer to be in the post-apocalypse in real-life rather than suffer through one more episode. This show is so lame, it's essentially a parody; shallow story-line and sub-plots that seem to be made up on the fly, melodramatic moments just about every scene, over-reliance on over-the-top fight scenes that are spectacularly unbelievable. Don't even get me started on character development or the lack thereof. I suggest that if they want to make this show successful, the writers, directors and producers should just give this show a slight push and make it a full-blown comedy. Then I might watch. Consider yourself warned.
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For months before the show started, they were quite clear that this wouldn't be a post-apocalyptic show. Or else they wouldn't name it - "Revolution"
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Also amusing that what a human being says is their intent of course MUST be what the final product is. Like the President saying he will create jobs (must be true!) and that doesn't happen.



Truth is, whether they wanted a post-apocalyptic show or not, that's what's on the screen. It has all the elements of one and just saying the creators don't want it to be, hasn't prevented it from being one. Failing to deliver on a non-post-apocalyptic genre with a post-apocalyptic show is only one of the many failures of this piece of trash.
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You do realize there is only three episodes so far. That being said, in order for a REVOLUTION to happen, they do need to build the world some. Give it time. Such impatience in people!
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I watched all three episodes last night back to back, so I could really see how the show has gotten a bit stronger this episode. Wish they had not killed Dad off within the first 10 minutes of the show. Love Lucifer - I mean Mark P. I think this show has potential. OK, the military strategy was lacking - ""play five minutes of Call of Duty or something, because there was some supremely idiotic battle strategy going on."" The flashbacks make a great story. So, they were both in the military, no one was in charge so Miles decides to go home to Chicago. On the way home they see people being killed for food, water, for the fun of it and decide eventually decide to start up some form of local control/militia/etc. It goes wrong- power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely and for some reason we will learn soon, something happened that made Miles leave. Love the magic necklace that turns the lights on. I enjoyed this show more then the preview for 666 Park Ave. I am hopeful it will develop over time. Look who's in charge... it has to get better! It's finding it's feet which is something in modern TV shows are not allowed to do. To quickly networks are ready to shout "off with your head" after 6-8 episodes.
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One: I wanted to say this last week but forgot. Directors: PLEASE STOP using closeups of faces so much. I've never seen a show that does closeup shots of the face as much as Revolution has in these first three episodes. They even did it briefly during the sword fight in this episode! Every once in a while is perfectly fine; every scene: no. And never during a sword fight!

Two: The only part that I quite enjoyed in this episode were the flashbacks to Miles and Monroe. I like the story that Miles basically pushed Monroe into becoming the "bad guy" that he is in present time. The present day drama was boring, and like I said last week, the believability is weak... I never felt like any of the rebels were actually in any danger.

Three: I liked Charlie quite a bit in the premiere. It's now episode three and I HATE HER. I made a comment last week saying she's not as bad as Josh from Terra Nova, but Charlie's now almost at that level. Also, if you're going to do a close up of her face every scene, how about not having her make the same exact expression all the time?

I was planning on giving it a fair shot and watching the whole season, but I don't think I can stomach much more of this quality.
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I quite liked this episode and thought it a big improvement compared to the first two episodes and I'll definitely be tuning in to see whats next on the show.

I liked that we got to know Miles better this week and I loved that as it turned out it was Miles that probably started them out to become the militia and not Sebastian. I did not see that one coming.

I also liked Danny faking an asthma attack freaking out the soldier and telling him to leave him alone because it showed that he will not just give up.

And yes as someone else has already said: Stop with the Katniss comparison Tim. Have you even read the books? Because the two characters are not very alike except for the bow. And it's getting pretty old.
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...and even the bow is different. I mean, Katniss uses a bow and arrow, and Charlie, a crossbow. Just saying...
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Now this is the good stuff! I normally judge a show from the first couple of episode, and I'm wrong to do so. I now know that you can never judge the quality of a show by the first couple of episodes...unless you like it, and then you're right. But I'm on board now. This episode is leaps and bounds better--LOLno. This show is awful.

Miles is decent, but it doesn't matter if Charlie's going to dictate everything they do. Sooner or later, the reluctant hero needs to lead, and not just by walking in front while they're on the road. And *on* the road? Who walks *on* the road in a post-apocalyptic--nvm.

Juliet from Lost needs to do...something. Send a note by carrier pigeon, look longingly out the window and have flashbacks, I dunno.

Nora looks pretty good, so I guess there's that.

Back to Miles, this is another case of everyone being surprised besides the audience. Yes, Miles was Vader, and then he didn't like where the Emperor was taking the...North American continent(?), so he quit being Vader and ran a bar somewhere. What I don't like is that now he's going to have to soften up further so that people will like him. The idea is that he shouldn't have to be liked as long as he keeps them alive, but that doesn't translate on a television show that needs its viewers, and that's a shame.

I don't like flashbacks, and I don't like these flashbacks any better, but it was a decent scene seeing Miles and Monroe carrying Jeremy back. Shame they turned him into an evil dick. Maybe he'd already been one, and the guys Miles had shot had been working for him before they turned on him--nah.

I did enjoy Jacob from Lost (and Lu from Supernatural), even though his character Jeremy seemed like a tactical idiot. I didn't even see the need for him to guard Miles once he'd captured him, since he couldn't take Miles even with his hands bound. Should probably use more rope on him next time. Still, as an actor, I like the guy. He's the only reason this episode wasn't worse than last week's.

I liked that the blonde got to see the picture of her really cute kids on her phone. A good story actually brings the audience in on what the characters are feeling, and at least the blonde did that for a moment. It was obviously worth it for them to stay there the entire episode since they can't fight, and it makes more sense that they never run into any danger when they're in one place rather than wandering around. If they can't fight, then they can't *have* any fights, after all.

And I'll go out on a limb and give Trevor (the sniper with the magic semi-auto rifle) the MVP of season one. I can't see anyone doing more implausible awesome than that.

So, they're back on the road to rescue Danny (until they're not):



Charlie: Danny!

Danny: 'Sup?

Charlie: We've done all the starting zone quests, and we're here to rescue you!

Danny: Ah, good lookin' out, but...I'm not leaving.

Charlie and whoever's there with her: WHAAAA?

Danny: Yeah, I need to stay and give Giancarlo's character relevance. With Jacob from Lost here, it doesn't look good for him. Also, the angry soldier stopped pissing in my drinking water, so we're making pret-ty good progress.

Miles: I know you think you can change the world, son (nephew), but don't go down that road. Leads to flashbacks. Trust me, you don't want flashbacks.

Danny: Yeah, I'm Charlie's brother, so I'm pretty much never gonna listen to anything you ever say. I've learned nothing from getting my dad shot.



Anyway, I see that Revolution's already been picked up for a full season, and I have to admit that I'm surprised it even got that much. The Voice (another show I don't get) is a hell of a lead in, I guess. One thing I can't believe is that this show is doing better every week. If it is, I really don't know what I'll have to say about that. Once they find Danny and we get to see what happens with that, I'll likely bow out and kick some other terrible show around. The Event was terrible, but the 2%'ers were at least interesting for a while. I'm not interested in what's going on with these people. But hell, Terra Nova got five weeks out of me...
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Technically, Nora was the one who wanted to stay. Charlie backed her play.
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This time. And honestly, if Nora began running things, that would be fine. Her decisions aren't much better, but at least she's essential (according to Miles, anyway). So if *she* has to almost get them killed every week instead of Charlie so Miles can get her to blow things up, so be it.

You'd think Miles would've learned enough Macguyver stuff on his own over the years, but w/e.
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Nora made them try to acquire the sniper rifle, led them to the rebel camp and made them stay. Charlie only got Miles to go after Danny and not kill an unconscious man in cold blood. She isn't making bad decisions she's trying to make moral decisions. Miles has lost that and he's trying to bring it back in a world that's only justice system is the death penalty. Monroe also tried to get Miles not to kill unarmed men in a dog-eat-dog environment, was it wrong then? No. It was fair play. You don't even kill unarmed unconscious soldiers in war.
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Why using a reference to "French grunt", not that I'm taking it as an offence coming from France myself, maybe you could have use "European historical grunts" in reference of the rows of soldiers that were facing in line each other in history (even in north america)... Or to which era are you making the reference o_O ?

Well, for my part I like this episode, maybe too many people want this show to be a 'Homeland' like elite show category, just like it as a good distraction as it intends to be...

For some notes I'm just not ok with them, for example:

- I don't want Tim (or some of you) to be officers in army, have you seen the size of the sniper rifle or of the golden bullets ?? In real life such a weapon with a not so great distance can go through some people in a row, imagine a massive men 'with no cover' attack before they reach the rebels (bullets even goes through some cover in the episode !)... but ok the guy on the rook was really good at recharging, for sure an ex-marine or so.

- yes they reach the bridge before a really slow walking army... pretty easy to do and have time to prepare the trap with only one road and some hours ! (the show does not intend to be a "24", many hours or days can happen between 2 scenes...)

But I like some references like "Level 1 boss" lol.

Most of the actors are ok for me (even Charlie), sure not for the Oscar, but remember, this show is not wanting to have reward, it's a distractive one as many others !
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I think this episode had some stupid situations

1 Grace build a computer ??? really cant she can just get a complete one I am sure

they have many lying around.Not to mention a computer looks like an XT computer

2 Why did the rebels didn't just bomb to militia from the rooftop instead of wasting bullets

they had the upper ground and as we all know from star wars who has the upper ground wins :)

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1. Much easier to build computer from scratch, instead of going out and finding complete PC parts. Also you must remember that probably power is limited, the USB device probably blocks out the disturbance that is made to turn of all electricity within a radius.



2. Ah yeah i have many bombs in my basement just lying around, also im a bomb expert i can make bombs from pencil sharpners some pencils and duct tape.
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don't forget

1. Why would you tattoo yourself with the symbol of the resistance.

2. Why didn't the sniper shoot the Captain. If the people with muskets can hit you, Im pretty sure the person with the high power sniper rifle can hit back.

3. How has the "resistance" survived this long if they don't realize going back to HQ when someone might be captured is a bad idea

4. How does the entire chain of command of the military fail just because a base couldn't get it's orders

5. HOW HAVE THEY FORGOTTEN HOW COMBUSTION ENGINES (or most of science) WORKS.
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I think youre forgetting how combustion engines are working here or science works. Steam engines might work but they were last used 150 years ago, You just dont find them lyng around in nearest hardware store. I guess we will see Monroe using them in later episodes for "really important super secret stuff"



Also in the night and darkness finding a spesiffic target isnt easy. and you dont really have time to aim and think without maybe getting shot back.



4. your forgetting this millitary is guerillas. most of them probably not millitary experience.



1. Why wouldnt you? If you belive in something and dont accept or want to be pushed down you will do things like this.

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Honestly I think it would have been much cooler if Maggie had built an iPhone herself. Just imagine her pulling out something the size of a shoe box with cranks and handles. That's a TV show and should be entertaining, and a computer built with oldspare parts and a box of peaches is much more mysterious.
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It makes no sense she could have used a IPad or something

and that would have been much easier to hide and to operate
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i agree with 1, but I don't know how you imagine them "bombing" the militia from the roof. By throwing a bag and then shooting a flaming arrow on it? Too slow and too inaccurate. And since so many of the rebels weren't in fighting shape, this wasn't a time to conserve bullets. It was a situation where they needed to use everything they had just to survive.
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they don't have to lite it with a flaming arrow they can just make some kind of grenades. we even saw that in the episode that Nora made grenades

and I was waiting for her to use it
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anybody knows the actor playing the soldier who's beating up Danny?

I know him but can't quite figure out from what show/movie...
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He was also in Jericho

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He's the guy from the last season of Scrubs! Michael Mosley. That drove me crazy for like two days.
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And apparently Panam, Castle, Happy Endings, 30 Rock and like a billion other things.
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oh 3xk
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Pan Am, the copilot, of course!!! Thank you!
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It's rather absurd that the prevalent weapons technology for the militia has been limited to muzzle loaded, black powder firearms when it's entirely possible to have breech-loading rifles that use cartridges. Manufacturing of such weapons was done even before electricity was available.



Miles trained the Militia? Can't say much for their tactics. Bunch of amateurs.



The next thing you know, there are extraterrestrials involved in all this. Oy vey.
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I think Miles mentioned something in the lines that since he had trained the militia, they were ruthless and relentless. He said nothing about them being tactical geniuses.
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This show is making almost every mistake possible!! The interesting story (why the power went out) is continued with the two characters I don't even try to like. And the main cast is doing some random meaningless s**t. While Miles actually got a few new facets, (why are those flashbacks better than every other plot????), Charlie, THE main character of this show now, since her dad (why did you kill the interesting characters???) is gone, is as interesting as a test pattern and is just bitching around.

Sorry for being so harsh, but Revolution was the show with the most potential this season and so far NOTHING IS HAPPENING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Come on, guys, get your freaking heads in the game!
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Is it bad that I actually like Miles? the only one though...
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this show reeeeeally reeeeally sucks and reading these articles completely validates my opinion. thanks for not making excuses for the show and please dig into why it sucks so hard more!
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