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Revolution "The Plague Dogs" Review: Beware of Dogs

Revolution S01E04: "The Plague Dogs"

The lesson to be learned from last night's episode of Revolution? Let eating dogs eat. Or don't throw fire at dogs. Or where are all the cats? In a post-apocalyptic world overrun with filth and disease, rapey bandits, and violent militias, it was a group of doggies that caused the greatest problem for our powerless survivors thus far.

Despite taking a giant step toward legitimacy with a surprising turn of events, "The Plague Dogs" was still a horrible hour of television bogged down by plot holes, story convenience, and plain old idiotic decisions. At least we can say Revolution is consistent.

After a quick and easy reunion of Group A (Miles, Charlie, Nora) and Group B (Aaron and Maggie), the supergroup nearly stumbled over a pack of dogs feeding on a carcass and making every possible aural indication that they shouldn't be messed with. The sounds of snarling and flesh-ripping should be enough of a warning sign to turn around. But instead of backing away slowly and letting the pups finish their meal, Miles chose to throw a torch at them and draw as much attention to the group as possible. And though this set up the furry hairy situation that drove much of the episode, it wasn't a smart idea. Plus, you're down one torch!

There was a chase, Aaron got bit in the leg, and Maggie shot one of the dogs with a crossbow. Thankfully there was some dog kryptonite—a fence—in the vicinity, and the survivors scaled it to sweet freedom. But that wasn't the end of their canine nightmare.

Coming upon an abandoned amusement park (this world is riddled with them), the group was sneaked up on by sneaky-pants character formerly known as Nate... AGAIN. How many times can this guy hide in the shadows and be found? Is he good at tracking or really bad at it? His credibility as a competent ranger is pretty much at an all-time low. Anyway, sucked for "Nate" because the dogs came back and cornered the group in an abandoned diner! Except for Maggie, who got separated in the confusion and taken prisoner by the Lord of the Dogs.

The pups belonged to a hermit with trust issues, emotionally scarred from a group of looters who killed his daughter. Well, they didn't actually kill her. They just took a bunch of stuff and then later his daughter stepped on a nail and got tetanus and died, but instead of blaming his daughter for not watching where she stepped, he blamed the looters because it was easier that way.

The hermit stabbed Maggie in the leg artery (medical term), Charlie got snatched out of the diner (???) by the hermit, and by this time things were just happening just to happen and logic changed the channel. The dogs cornered the group in the diner, but Miles was able to just walk out and get Maggie after she got stabbed? The hermit was able to just walk in the back door and grab Charlie? The dogs continued to just sit outside the front door of the diner? The hermit set up Charlie in a crossbow trap because why? And Charlie was able to wiggle out of the way of the arrow anyway? Miles can kill 17 armed humans in close quarters with a sword but three dogs against six humans is certain death? Whatever, Revolution.

The point is, Revolution put on its big boy pants and killed off a major character in Maggie (we think). The move certainly changes the tone of the show for the better, because otherwise I was uncertain about how family-friendly it was, but it also kills off the one character with any solid emotional backstory. And you know what? It was sad. Among all the ridiculousness of the rest of the episode, Revolution actually did great work with Maggie via flashbacks as we saw just how much she'd struggled to get back to her kids. She walked from Seattle to the East Coast! Then she walked up and down the East Coast! All those miles and tired legs for a chance to maybe see her kids. That's dedication. Me, I cry when I realize I have to get out from under my blanket on the couch when the remote control is out of reach.

Usually characters die for a reason, but I didn't see any motive for Maggie to go other than for Revolution to prove that it isn't afraid to kill a character (though I'm willing to bet there are no more major deaths for a loooooong time). Supporting characters are designed to support main characters. Their blood stays on someone else's hands, or their sacrifice allows a group to survive. But here, Revolution tried to use Maggie's death as a way to convince Miles to stick around and help Charlie. The problem is that there was no doubt that he wasn't going anywhere in the first place. Character deaths are never entirely pointless; the emotional crater left behind affects those who live on. But Maggie's death was as close to pointless as it gets in television land.

Elsewhere, while Charlie and Miles were dealing with dogs, Danny and Neville were scared by storms. Gray skies forced Neville's caravan into shelter, where Danny escaped his confines AGAIN. The ensuing chasedown separated Neville and Danny in a basement while they waited out the storm and helped fill out the hour. Then an almost-tornado came but got sucked back up into the sky before it could hit the building Neville and Danny were in. It wasn't scary. And just after Neville bellowed, "Amen," the roof collapsed on him in an unintentionally comical fashion. That's what I call bad luck! That gave Danny the decision to either run off to freedom or save his archenemy from certain death. Neville guilted Danny into saving him by telling Danny his dad would be disappointed (the irony being that Ben's death was caused by Neville); Danny saved him, and of course Neville pulled a "Psych!" move and immediately put him in restraints again.

In the C-minus story, Rachel was still in Mansion Prison being pestered by Monroe about what Ben knew about the blackout. I don't know how long Rachel has been in this particular room, but it seems like a long time. And as far as I can tell, Monroe comes in every 15 minutes and asks her the same question. But this week, Monroe had had enough and brought in a torturer! That'll get the answers out! So the guy laid out all his scary torture tools and stuff was about to get real, except the guy never tortured Rachel because later we saw her and she looked incredibly comfortable and unscathed. Although I suppose he could have subjected her to a really intense tickling session.

Later, Monroe promised that he'd torture Danny (yeah right, we're not falling for that again) and called her a cold bitch because she doesn't care about her kids. That was supported by an earlier flashback in which Rachel left the kids and Ben for MONTHS to get supplies. As young Charlie screamed for her mom to come back, Rachel didn't do so much as offer a wave. Cold! Except later we saw that scene from Rachel's perspective and she was crying and broken up about leaving, and it hit us as hard as a down comforter because things weren't set up well and we never thought for a second that she was a hardened bitch. Swing and a miss.

We're four episodes into Revolution, we've had our first major death, and the show has been picked up for a full season. But the series is showing no signs of improving as it continues to slip on banana peels in an effort to find any sort of footing. And with Maggie dead, the show is in more trouble than when it started.



NOTES

– Maggie was Skype-chatting from Seattle with her kids in England, right? And it was nighttime in Seattle, right? Figure an eight-hour time difference, and a conservative estimating that it was 6pm in Seattle... her kids were awake at 2am? Why would she call them at 2am? What kind of mom is she? And why is she in Seattle in the first place, anyone know?

– Nora should have died. She's okay with making loud snide comments about Aaron and Maggie, but she chastises Miles for "blowing up" on Charlie? What a hypocrite.

– This young Charlie looked like a kid who could grow up to look like present-day Charlie. That's the best casting we've seen on the show so far.

– So what happens to the dogs now that their owner is dead? TELL ME!

– "I poured myself a cup of poison" is my favorite line of the fall season so far.


What'd you think of this episode? Is it worth it to keep covering Revolution on TV.com?






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did anyone notice how the writers mixed up tetenus with rabies?
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no they didn't...they said the man's daughter stepped on a nail, and got tetanus. He said she couldn't open her mouth....that's lockjaw which happens with tetanus.
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In a world with little medicine for people, nobody would waste it on a dog (one dog's ears were cropped). The diner's outside windows were spotless - who cleaned them? My biggest beef with the other episodes is the ridiculous waste of candles - In The Daytime!!!
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Unless he had a bunch of breeding stock locked away somewhere, I don't think that there would even be breeds like that....there was a dobe, rottie, malinois. Highly doubtful there'd still be purebred dogs that far out.

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Why couldn't it have been Charlie that got stabbed. She acts like an entitled, mall-princess. Something that should have disappeared soon after the power went out.



Her soon to be romance with her Twi-Hunger Stalker is already making me gag.
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How soon is soon? People have been telling it from episode 1 and they might go that way, but it won't happen for a while and there aren't any lovestruck scenes yet. Its quite obvious she can't act any more entitled than you. Just puttin' it out there, ya know!
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Ok, so I cried when Maggie died.

That was REALLY sad.

The rest of the episode pretty much sucked, though - interesting reveal in the last few seconds, though, although it leaves me more confused than anything right now.



Who is Rachel, really?

Because it seems like Ben was the one involved in whatever whacky science we'll find behind the loss of power, but aparently SHE's the one Mr. Militia leader Miles wanted to blackmail into custody?

So how involved was she in the science side of things? Why has the evil militiaman whose name I can't even remember been asking her POLITE questions for nearly a decade, instead of smacking her around a bit to get the answers?

Sounds incredibly... contrived. :p
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Didn't you see her immediately entwine her hands behind her and get mentally prepared when the torturer came in? He even said something that sounded a whole lot like he had done this before to her. She just doesn't break easily to physical torture. The government is named after him and you don't even know it. So, how can you judge the show if its your own fault for missing out on all the nuances and subtleties!
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Pointless deaths? Can't go worse than Tasha Yar's back in ST:TNG... Pointless and totally out of the blue.

I didn't want Maggie gone, she was the only character I liked!
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This story has such great potential but it is in serious need of emergency surgery. I my opinion there are only two things that can be done to save this show: 1. Fire the directors on the spot and hire...pfff, the options...let's say...Gary Ross. 2. Hire Bear McCreary (I am sure he can squeeze in the work).
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Ugh! THG is the worst movie of the year. Gary Ross ruined everything.
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Throw in a suggestion than, you never know, they might take you up on it. :)
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The only reason I'm still watching (with one eye) is because I keep--seemingly, hopelessly--waiting for Charlie to stop being such an flaming cretin. By the looks of things, though, I'm soon going to have to just give up on this dream and stop watching altogether.
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The only reason to keep Revolution on the air is Tim Surettes entertaining reviews.
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This was the first episode I actually kind of liked and was willing to forgive the plot holes on. But I'm so bugged they killed Maggie, the only character that I had liked thus far. And, after making her seem even cooler and more interesting than any other character on the show, they kill her off? Regardless, I must admit, this was the first episode where I actually starting caring about any of the characters, so that's progress, right?
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I thought it was a great episode. Tim, once again you are WAY TOO nitpicky. Honestly. It's annoying and says a lot about your character. It simply proves that you are absolutely DETERMINED to hate this show no matter how much it approves. It was one of the strongest character based shows yet. Just because it's not happening the way YOU want it doesn't negate how good the show is.



I think reviews should keep coming, but to anybody at TV.com, do us all a favor. Remove Tim from reviewing this show. His reviews are ENTIRELY biased, and he actually sucks at reviewing this show. He refuses to give it a chance. He finds anything and everything to complain about, and he's a complete douche about it. It's highly unprofessional. You guys should let us vote on who we want to review this show. Because, folks, Tim isn't good at this. Every week he continues to show his arrogant unprofessional "skills". He should keep reviewing Fringe, as I think he does good with that show. But find somebody better suited to review Revolution. Tim's too negative.



The show isn't bad. All the haters are people who are jumping the gun, expecting everything to make sense IMMEDIATELY. Heck, weren't some people complaining about the show being illogical because there weren't steam engine trains a few weeks back? And voila! In the previews for next week, we see a steam engine train running. People these days no longer have patience, want to take out all forms of suspense, and expect answers right away. If you want answers right away go watch CSI or something. You'll have all your questions answered in an hour. Otherwise, sit back and enjoy Revolution, expecting to have questions throughout the season.



Patience, you impatient haters. And get rid of Tim, please.
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Tim is lost in that fantasy world that a lot of us fell into. Looking for the next "Lost". "Revolution may, or may not be it. But, let's enjoy it for what it is. It's gotten better with every episode. TV.com needs to rid itself of Tim if it wants to continue to be a valuable entertainment resource. He is totally biased as to what he likes, and no open mind to anything or anyone else.
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Could people please stop mentioning Lost every time there's a show that involves a text-based terminal, an old video tape, an island, a mystery, or people.
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Lost sucked. I give it the first season' but after that, so many nerds, geeks, dorks, and lamers were suddenly convinced non-sense, question-based cliffhangers made for great television. Shame on you. Shame on you all.
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Me neither....
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Oh Josh :) I can't wait for the next episode.
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Again, you have no merit in my book. Simply put: you are a troll. If you really discredit the fantastic writing that goes both into Lost and Fringe. Perhaps you don't like the genres of Lost of Fringe, and that's fine. But just because you don't like them doesn't mean that the writing and standards of the show are any less. You are in the minority, there. That's a fact. And there has been critic acclaim for those shows. If they weren't good, why is everybody comparing everything on TV to Lost? Hmm? Yeah. You are a troll. Plain and simple.



I'd hate to see the show you are writing, considering how easily you tear apart good writing. I can't stand arrogant, pompous morons such as yourself. Remind me to never watch your show if it ever becomes a reality. I'm thinking you don't know quality at all. What you speak is merely YOUR truth, but not mine and no the majority of the people on here, so don't pretend like yours is better than ours.



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If you're sensing pompousness, congratulations. I'm trying to be. You aren't hurting me at all through the acknowledgement. I don't need credibility any more than you do to claim our opinions. You are as stalwart and passionate about yours as I am mine. Yet somehow, I'm chastised for my vehemence whereas yours is celebrated as defense. Critics do not laud Lost or Fringe. They aren't praised unless its by their faithful fans. Quality was never set by Fringe or Lost. The Wire, Breaking Bad, The Sopranos carry that torch. Battlestar Galactica trumps those in the sci-fi realm. And lest we forget, The Gary Shandling show was just brilliance. You confuse praise with popular vote. Popular vote almost never reflects quality. To believe otherwise, and to use it as an example is foolish at an objective level.

Writing a successful show such as Lost or Fringe would mean I'd have to suspend disbelief and write to objectively lower standards. (Again, I give Lost its first season. Very good.) As it happens, I am writing my own show. But as you can see by names such as JJ Abrams, it takes money and a product to sell an idea...not quality (yes, pompousness intended. The truth is, however, not understated.)
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DinChild, you come across as pompous. And you all but admitted that you think you are better than others in sense that your taste is "apparently" better. But, I'm sorry, you think Fringe is bad and you discredit the writing of Lost so easily? You have no credibility in my book at all. In case you haven't noticed both shows are highly praised, have set the bar for quality (why else would everybody compare Revolution to Lost all the time?), and opened the doors for many of the shows we watch today.



If you think are so much better than others on this level, why don't you try to write a successful series such as Lost or Fringe? Otherwise, you can "shut yo mouth" because you really have no merit.



And, for your information, Fringe isn't a procedural show. It may have started off as that, but it grew into an episodic series quickly. That comment alone proves you haven't really give Fringe a chance.
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Actually not true. The writing for Lost was NOT fantastic. There are objective reasons for this. And yes, I do believe I have better taste than most, but that's besides the point. I did give Lost the first season, 'cause I actually truly enjoyed the first season. The tension was real. The issues were plausible. The characters were interesting. Lost absolutely did NOT need all the mythological mumbo-jumbo (and no, that's not the whole basis for my Lost-hate.)



As for Fringe, I sat through another episode last night and the same issues apply. Olivia is a great actress. Noble is great. Jackson continues to suck lots and lots. That could have a lot do it with it, but in the end, I guess I'm just not a fan of procedurals. I do give Fringe more credit than most shows, however.



Back to Josh, shut yo mouth. An absolute moron wouldn't be able to operate a keyboard.
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I agree with both mad-pac and Josh. You're definitely trolling around. Though I think Lost had some of the best writing ever, the writers just didn't know where they were going and I can understand when people say they hated it. But you even thinks Fringe sucks which is simply unacceptable and brings your whole taste in tv to question.
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I agree with JoshHorton. Lost had great writing and fantastic characters. If only the writers had any idea where they were going with their mythology, it would've been the fantastic show it was meant to be. Unfortunately the writers became what the show's title says.
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DinChild, it's great to see that you are quick to make assumptions (sarcasm) Lost didn't suck, It was fantastic writing. An absolute moron would have to say that it didn't have great writing. Maybe it wasn't your type of show, that's fine. But do NOT pretend you are better than anybody who thought differently. I know a lot of people who loved Lost and none of them were "lamers" or dorks or geeks. How ignorant can you get? really?



Lost was fantastic. I loved it. Great series. But just because you don't think so, don't put down those who think otherwise.



I begin to wonder if you are simply trolling. if so...shame on YOU.
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I think Maggie was the only character I liked...darn. I sort of like Charlie and the "romance" with that guy, yet it's rather predictable.
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It's dire, last week's episode was an improvement but this was a disaster of a mess. Maggie was the most believable character of the series and is dead. Miles is totally unconvincing, I hated it when he could take out any number of gun-wielding militia types and it's no better when he goes off and leaves one of his "friends" to bleed out.

Put the power back on and turn out the lights on Revolution.
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This episode didn't do much for me, and I thought there would be more in depth revelations. I will watch the next episode!
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That's it for me. I'm out, no more Revolution. I can't believe this show will make it to Ep 22
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And what could I say about this review



BLAH BLAH BLAH !!



Seriously, do you get the whole picture of the series?

or you just keep tracking the mistakes the director or the actors or whoever did in it?



You are focusing in small tiny things, and forget enjoying the show!!

and please, they call it sci-fi because it is not real !!
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You must be the only person who can clearly see how brilliant the show is! Preach it, brotha. The ONLY other argument is Tim is just a short-sighted paid-opinionist. He couldn't possibly come to the same conclusion you came to, and THEN extrapolated on it.
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Considering that you've read every comment from the fans on this page, I wonder why you're blatantly lying. A disgruntled Hawaii Five-O fan probably! Also just to make sure you understand clearly, Nawwar20 didn't say the show was brilliant, as much as simply stating its enjoyable and has potential.
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I totally didn't care about his opinion, just that assuming Tim couldn't possibly understand the broader scope of the show was silly. The guy covers and enjoys Fringe. I think we can both agree, scope it has in spades.



And I absolutely have read every comment. This, as I've stated before, is fun for me.
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Are you playfully ignoring the point of this? Tim understands a broader scope. He can paint with a wider brush, if you will. This is in contrast to the original poster's claim. That's all. He's not narrow-minded as a result. You just happen to be stubborn, for almost no reason, over a show that will only disappoint :-)

There's nothing sick about this. It's argumentation. It's the healthiest form of conversation. Too many people remain passionate and overly zealous. It clouds the inherent education of the matter. For example, every counter argument raised toward me has claimed I'm closed-minded or trolling, whereas every complaint I've leveed remains direct and objective. Just saying ;-)
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Just because a person appreciates Fringe doesn't mean they aren't narrow-minded. I think you should have fun on every post on the site. I'd join you. Sick fun.
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I don't even care about the blackout anymore. The only reason I'll keep watching is to find out why the hell did Monroe and Miles tell Rachel to come and not Ben?

Also the show is slowly becoming "so bad, it's good" and I find myself laughing more than I should.
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This is certainly the standard we should hold all new shows up to. Let's keep watching and giving them more money to produce more!
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Now why did I know you wouldn't give a positive review even though the episode was fantastic. The show is getting better, the flaws are becoming lesser and yet here you are simply whining over nothing. Just because it didn't follow the structure you want, you have a predisposition to hate the show. One shouldn't overlook all the good stuff that happened and spin it as if the entire show is bad. I'd give the episode a 9/10. RIP Maggie.

Poll: Yes. Continue the reviews with a real critic. I'll take the positive and the negative over annoying whiny writing any day. Learn from the other reviewers on your site. They may not love the show, but atleast they acknowledge the good along with the bad.
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No it was not fantastic. Read Tim's paragraph above the picture of Maggie sitting by the lake. Now, honestly, didn't that make you laugh? It should, because those are good and funny observations.

Besides, what are the good things in the episode?

Weren't you wondering throughout the whole ending, why the hell was the man setting up the crossbow trap? I certainly didn't come up with anything...
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Honestly, taking back the one positive thing you said doesn't make me appreciate the critic. Maggie's death has meaning since it allowed Miles to have a greater empathy and understanding for his niece's suffering. We all know he wouldn't have gone away, but the way the drama was set up, the ensuing emotional payoff was great. I'm not going to try and change your mind if you didn't find anything worthwhile.

I suggest you watch Fringe and get into the mind of a lunatic.
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"I suggest you watch Fringe and get into the mind of a lunatic."

Nothing like going back to shows with insane and ridiculous plot-points to try and prove others equally ridiculous.

Watch an episode of Nancy Grace if you wanna see lunatic. Jesus.
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It's true. They have Nancy Grace playing in our employee dining room every damn night. It's never not depressing.
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Woah. You're a long way away from Jersey Shore fan posts, my friend.
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Okay, so...this episode happened.

Miles telling Charlie to shut up--the one thing that I (and I assume at least a few others) might've enjoyed--was immediately besieged by not only pouts from a 20-year-old, but from Nora, and guilt from Miles. Charlie *needs* to shut up...frequently. I barely even got in a "Yeah!" before Miles got all emo on us. "I shouldn't be here...she's better off without me...how's my mascara..."

First of all, no she wouldn't be better off; she'd die...quickly. Second, Miles is obviously going nowhere longer than half an episode. Other people can enjoy story arcs with obvious non-changing conclusions, but I'd rather something happen that might actually not happen.

I see that it's been picked up for the season, but I'm also pretty confident that it's been bleeding more ratings with every episode, and this one sure as hell isn't going to staunch anything. I guess all a show needs is months of hype, The Voice as a lead-in, and a shitton of even worse shows on their network and Revolution can look pretty good by comparison. You don't really need to outrun the dogs, you only need to outrun the guy next to you.

But I'm out this week. I don't like anybody here but Giancarlo, and I think I just feel bad for him, kinda like that faerie queen on True Blood.
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Bwahaha!
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It's funny 'cuz it's sad. Which, I admit, is still kinda funny. Tried Arrow? Looks like I'll be over...therre.
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Any theories on why Miles (and Monroe?) "arrested" Rachel and not Ben? Fast-forward to the future .. and Monroe is asking Rachel about Ben's secrets - surely, it would have been easier to just get Ben from the start. I fail to make the connection there.

Also .. why did Monroe take 15 years to go find Ben? The long period has been bothering me (among other inconsistencies) since the start. Why are all these events taking place now, for things that everyone had known since the beginning?
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Neville had been searching for Ben for a long time. That's not an inconsistency since we don't know when Miles and Monroe separated and the terms under which Rachel allowed herself to be taken hostage.
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In the last episode Miles said that he left the militia "1 or 2 years ago" (paraphrasing) .. assuming he was understating, let's say he left the militia 5 years ago. That still leaves 10 years! But even if it was 1 year .. why wouldn't they have asked for Ben straight away? From that phone call on the last second, they both must have known that Ben knew at least something.

I hope they explain it via the Rachel hostage-taking business .. but, I fear that the writers will cop out and give us a BS excuse. I hope not ...
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Bummer. That Brit chick died and stuff. That was rough.

-I too was jolted out of the show when I found myself trying to calculate the time difference.

- To be fair...or something, Nora would have a tad bit more of an attachment to Charlie than to Brit chick and "puter dude. She spent more time with her and they've been tag teaming one another jumping all over Miles' case so girl power, solidarity and all that good stuff.

- Word.

- Unspeakable things.

-Huh, that isn't dark and creepy at all.
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Revolution is really starting to piss me off. This was the one show, I was really looking forward to all summer long and now it turns out it's just as bad as Mob Doctor!!! You know, instead of killing Maggie, they should've killed Charlie! She's the most annoying character with all her whining and bitching around. The worst part of that is that I didn't even care that Maggie was dead, because Charlie was crying for, like, the 100th time this season, so that was like a crystal clear sign that it didn't matter. If she hadn't cried, maybe I would've been a little sad.

The only good scene in this episode was Maggie's flashback. It was probably the first scene this season that seemed authentic and probably written by the only writer of the show that knows what he's doing. Please, give the others a dictionary, so they maybe understand what it means!!!! If all of the scenes were like that one, this would be the best show of the season!!!!

But like this, I just don't know how long I can still keep on watching this...
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I don't get it .. do these guys not watch their own show before they show it to everyone? How do you not pick the obvious logic flaws???

Anyway, I will watch again next week, because Maggie's death was done incredibly well and I shed a tear for her .. let's hope for some common sense next week.
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I don't think Kripke, Favrau or J.J. watch it. Their lawyers just sign the checks and that's it.
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Average Episode.

Miles beats someone up. (doesn't kill...yet)

Aaron falls behind in running.

British girl shows she's the smartest in the room.

Charlie whines about saving her brother.

Danny is about to be cool, then writers give him a conscience.

Charlie cries.

A big reveal shows Miles to be a bad ass, which we already knew.



The only contribution of this episode is they took out a character, which would have lead to an awkward future episode where Charlie's mother would have to face the mistress. Unfortunately, It also took out the only character that had any real sympathetic background that the audience could connect with on some level. (Guess there's always Neville).



The characters need to be more edgy. Danny needs to kill someone. Charlie needs to hold back a tear, possibly get a scar. Aaron needs to suffer enough mental torture to become mute. Nora needs to focus, and Miles... well, keep him the same.



Also, does anyone else think that Nate is Neville's son. I know they look nothing alike, but that hardly has stopped producers from creating that connection in the past.
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You think the reveal was 'Miles was a badass', that he hasn't killed anyone yet (he already killed plenty in the 4 episodes)!! The reveal was, in a surprising turn of events Rachel turning herself over to Miles and not Monroe capturing Rachel as we initially assumed!
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Revolutions seems to be this years Terra Nova.



Most of the main cast has little or no charisma at all. Logic seems to be have thrown completely out of the window. Electricity is gone, but people are still alive. No one can produce any electricity, but somehow we have thunder in this episode. Not sure how so many people gathered around and are still all following this douche bag called Monroe ether, or how this militia of his managed to gather nearly every weapon in the US in less than 15 years with no working communication devices. And then for some reason instead of letting the militia using those weapons, they are for some stupid reason given swords, bows and muskets (with a few exceptions).



Oh, and don't forget, trying to get to England is like trying to get to the moon. Because the ships ether don't work, or the militia got them or took them apart. This militia seems to have gotten their hands on everything, everywhere. I'm guessing the militia must have every taken control over every ship and every piece of wood in all of America...



Well, this show might be worth watching to see what bullshit they come up with next. But I'm guessing we will never know why electricity still exists in the sky, but not on ground level, especially since this show will probably not get another season.
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I think I read somewhere that the main mystery will be explained fairly soon and then the show will be about solving the problem.

What you said about how the militia seems to have taken all the weapons (and everything else) and is still not using them is something I think people aren't complaining enough about.
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"What'd you think of this episode?"





This, like every other episode was a travesty, a sham and a mockery...it's a traveshamockery. But I disagree with Tim in saying that Maggie's death was pointless. It wasn't pointless, it served to prove that a computer nerd, in a post apocalyptic world, cannot suture a leg artery using a traditional sewing needle. If the attempts to save her weren't so comical, I might have felt a twinge of, "Aww, that's too bad. I liked her". Instead, all I could think was, "If she lives, I'm done watching this show".





I have though backed off that last stance and am glad it's been picked up for the rest of the season because it's a treasure trove of plot holes, absurd character decisions, poor writing, poor acting with a suspension of disbelief factor that's off the scale...I want to see just how bad a show can get if given the time and opportunity and so often shows get cancelled before they can achieve their full potential. I was placing bets that after 2 episodes, Revolutions would show what episodes they had in the can and it would vanish into the TV ether, but there's not a chance for some epically bad television. I'm excited





"Is it worth it to keep covering Revolution on TV.com?"





Yes, please. Entertainment Schadenfreude is so much more fun when it's shared
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I'd be right there with you, but Arrow turned out to be pretty good, and I'd rather kick a dog that might actually get back up. This show's a hot air balloon with two holes in it.
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episode was excellent
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I think Miles and Monroe would have gotten results a lot faster if they captured the kids, Charlie and Danny, instead of Rachel.



Maggie should have told the others about the electricity incident. Now only Aaron knows. He should really start learning how to fight and contribute in protecting himself and the group. The most violent thing he could do is scream "Charlie". He can't afford to be JUST a former Google guy in a "DOG EAT DOG" world.
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Kids staying up past their bedtime once in awhile is not exactly a novel concept, Tim.



TV.com, can we please finally have a "LOAD ALL" comments or at least have NUMBERED PAGES??? I believe this has been suggested by other users already. I doubt it is that hard to do.
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This is Tera Nova all over again. As with that show, the only reason I'm still watching is a tiny forlorn hope it'll get better but mostly just to come on tv.com after and see the review ripping it apart. That was definitely the only reason I was still watching Tera Nova at the end.
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It is a fantactic core-idea. The execution is not that fine. The dissapointment is HUGE. So, it is no surprise this show quickly got sucked in by the dark spiral that is called 'Love to hate'. I don't give up yet. But the lack of tension, surprise, great characters, good story telling make the 'mistakes' jump unforgivingly out as a red flag to an enraged bull.
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if they wanted us to care about maggie dying, they should have started some flashbacks to her past a couple episodes ago, given her some emotional moments, and waited a couple more episodes to kill her. i literally didnt remember her name until this episode shoved it into my face, and 2 flashbacks to her reading to her kids in the same episode that she dies doesnt make me care. if they built this with some real storytelling it could have been successful.
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They already did lay the groundwork in the first three episodes. Maggie treated Danny and Charlie as her own kids even if the feelings weren't always mutual. She kept on reminiscing about her children through the iPhone in the previous episodes. Her character was actually so well done in such a limited screen presence, even without the flashbacks she was likable and interesting. This episode was just the cherry on top for her character, but the flipside to it is the actress leaving the show and one of the most liked characters dying. I think they told her story quite well.
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I'm not convinced she's dead yet. She may have just passed out from the blood loss. I guess we'll find out soon enough.
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She's listed for only 4 episodes on imdb. She had a vision of being with her kids in a white room, after she talked about how they might be dead. Sorry.... but she's dead and even if the lights go back on or the device turns on, she will still be dead.



Otherwise, the realism they created in this world would be for nothing. Plus, Miles could then say "Oh, she's alive! Well I guess you don't need me. Got things to do, it's been real nice catching up. Have fun storming the castle!"
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Okay did you not hear the part where Rachel tells Monroe that Ben was an Algebra teacher? and remember Grace was too? Do you think maybe, just maybe, there's a connection hiding there. This is a show you have to pay attention to and use that little tiny scrap you call a mind to try and connect and read between the lines. Pathetic. The show has improved incredibly since starting. I get so tired of knowing that you are on here downing so many good shows. You're probably one of the reasons that Firefly was cancelled. You need to start paying attention or stop writing. Seriously.
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I totally forgot Grace was an Algebra teacher as well! That's an astute observation. I agree, the show is getting better and better every week and the complaints are just stupid (for the most part).
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I was always suspicious of algebra teachers. I also noticed that all smart people die first in this show - coincidence?

Comparing Revolution to the brilliant written and acted Firefly is asking for way too much. Even thinking about Charlie, her brother or Google guy with wooden acting and abysmal dialogs on board of the Firefly makes me shiver.
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I voted yes, if only because I love reading Tim's reviews... Also because he's no longer writing reviews for SPN apparently. Gotta get my fix somehow, until Justified returns next year.



And yeah, this episode wasn't that fantastic. At least the dialogue wasn't as shitty and cringe-worthy as it was in episode two. But I think the character death should have been Charlie. She's annoying and Tracy cannot act her way out of a paper bag. Being Human, anyone? They could have killed her off and it would have been just as powerful a motivator to keep Miles on Danny's trail, face off against Monroe and Neville, while making the show three times more watchable, in one fell swoop.



Alas... Poor Maggie.
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Person of Interest, Fringe, Homeland, Alphas, Sons of Anarchy, Last Resort. Take a pick for the fix.

Miles wouldn't go to rescue Danny, someone he hasn't even seen. The only real motivator for his actions is Charlie who he has developed atleast some kind of affection and admiration, no matter how morally right she is for his tastes, for the past few weeks. The death of Maggie when she says: "Everybody leaves me. Please don't", that scene was the clincher for him to stay and protect her
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I haven't been keeping up with the Fringe and Alphas reviews, sadly, and I gave up on SPN, though I noticed Mary Ann what's her face's byline on the SPN reviews. She did a piss poor job reviewing Big Bang Theory, so I don't have much hope for her on an hour long drama... But Being Human and Justified are always on my list of reads.



But you forget, "Nate" and Aaron know what Danny look like. The show could have gotten rid of Charlie, by far its weakest character, and still continued on with the mission. Hell, think of how great it would have been if Charlie's death spurred Miles on against Monroe himself. It could have made Maggie stop holding on to the past, given Aaron a reason to nut-up or shut-up, made Nate rethink his position in the militia ranks. Maggie's death did nothing. Charlie's death could have done so much.
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Alright Tim I've read all 4 of your reviews back to back (after just having finished all 4 episodes back to back.)



You make some good points and your arguments are solid.



The hardest part about genre shows is that they usually require from suspending of belief to follow the plot (with it's holes and inconsistencies). This is a contradiction because genre fans are usually the ones to harp on those holes. (Trekkies come to mind.)



It isn't all bad. They did kill a major character and I think in the next 3 episodes we'll see the death of another major character.



We need more information about the black out and I agree that bringing the intensity that is in the flashback needs to be brought into the present storyline. However there isn't that much intensity if you think about it. When we flashback we know who is alive and who isn't.



All in all I can't wait for the next episode. Let's see where they go wit this.
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After some dreading, I finally saw it. EP04. It wasn't all bad. Some was rather good. I really like all the outdoor sets. And the lush color photography. Actually that's it. The rest is bad. Again, Revolution was packed with idiotic descisions, pointless death, HUGE inconsistenties and masses of fake Ivy draped all over the place. And where are they going? At least Dorothy went straight in to face the Wiz. I'll watch the next EP just to see how Rachel is going on with her design for a new 'Lost-hatch' logo.
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Don't you love the trade-mark discordant violin (or whatever string instrument) at the end of each "dramatic scene?" Even Fringe couldn't help but use it. Identity is in short supply. Also, the "Lost violin" was always stupid...
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I do credit the show for willing to kill off Maggie... and I agree, the ONLY reason I can see for them doing so is to "prove" that they're willing to create some real danger.

Unfortunately, the first 40 minutes was lame and seemingly written for 13 year olds. I'm sure if I was 13, I'd have loved this episode. No one older than 13 should have believed Charlie was in any danger of being shot by the rigged-to-the-door gun. OF COURSE she was going to dodge it. The only way the writers would think that would be anywhere near as exciting as the music and cut-to-commercial would indicate is if they wrote it for a 13 year old. The only thing the writers seem to do often that suggests they're trying to make the show "grown-up" is using the words dick and bitch once every episode, but I believe I was watching South Park when I was 13, so even that doesn't apply to me.

Even with the lame action, I would have still continued to watch if they hadn't ruined Charlie for me. I liked her in the pilot... I can't stand her now. She's as annoying as constipation. I don't even find her attractive anymore because of the crinkly-forehead expression she ALWAYS makes. Also, Aaron is so poorly written and acted.

The one thing I've been able to enjoy is the flashbacks of Miles and the way he was after the lights went out. But flashbacks should never be more exciting than the present-day plot, so I'm gonna stop watching. Maybe it'll get better and that'll be my loss, but at the moment, I don't care much for watching shows that are written for 13 year olds.
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Your loss. Moving on, the swear words are used to just make it feel like a normal conversation. I'd think its more of an allusion to Supernatural where the lead brothers refer to each other jokingly as 'jerk' and 'bitch'.
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I think you put your finger on the thruth. This is a show for kids. I easily can imagine the weekly excitement, as I knew back in the 70's when watching the planet of the apes series or Logan's run. If this is the case, then they should have marketed it that way and all of us would gain an hour to do other grown-up stuff. :-)
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This show is turning into another Lost with allot of useless boring flashbacks

I guess we have to wait for the 6th season to find out why there is no electricity

(My guess it has to do with some big rock in the center of the world)

I did like the part where Miles Shut Charlie, up it was along time coming

I think that Maggie dead because the don't need her as love connection for Miles now that Nora is around

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Do you really think the show will last to its 6th season??? Very optimistic.
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no I don't but the answer for the blackout is planed for it
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Kripke says answer by the end of season 1.
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Oh and I like the part about getting out of bed in this review made me laugh
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Maggie was worth the entire lot ... she could act and seemed to take the premise [such as it is] seriously. This show just ended for me -- why kill the class act off in the 4th episode??
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i did like Maggie, actually. I thought she'd be annoying from the first episode, but at the very least, everyone else passed her up in that category. I didn't think she'd survive the year, but I at least thought she'd do something better than getting stabbed in the leg. Shame.
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Ben's death wasn't caused by Neville any more than the looters caused the hermit's daughter tetanus, if the hermit is getting a scolded then Danny should do too, otherwise they are BOTH right
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This show sure does say "dick" and "bitch" a lot!
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I didn't even know you were aloud to say "dick" on a network drama.
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I think 10 o'clock shows on networks are allowed to say it once or twice every episode, and never in a sexual way. Or something like that.

I'd like to think the network execs still asked the writers to avoid using the word, but because Eric Kripke loves his characters calling each other dicks -- they do it so often on Supernatural -- he probably refused the request.
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Does the actress who plays Charlie naturally have an accent or something? She sounds deaf when she talks, but I doubt that's the case.
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Those darn Canadians and their funny accents! Could be you're hearing the 5 years she spent in Greece as a kid. I don't hear it.
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Us Canadians do not have funny accents.
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Ah know, eh? I've never figured oot what accent us Canadians are suppoosed to have...
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The episode was so good. The way Maggie's storyline was portrayed made it one of the best episodes of not just the show, but of all the shows this fall. Screw the review. Reviewer is just grasping at straws to complain, doing a very bad job at critiquing. Its not the complaints I'm against, but the very nature of the review doesn't give credit where credit's due, thereby undermining one of the best episodes ever which is flabbergasting.
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This show is going to go down like "Heroes" - a show that for some reason got a reputation as good because of good early numbers even though the writing sucked from the pilot and the show was never good. It'll slog on for episodes - it may even get another season but its not getting any better. This show is a massive fail. Maybe Kripke wasn't the reason "Supernatural" was good - he had a stable of good sci-fi writers and he actually cast his show pretty well. Bad writing and even worse acting makes watching "Revolution" a chore. Blond haired plot point with Gus Fring is just so miserably bad. The worst part is watching Giancarlo Esposito just picking up a check each week. This show is going to keep on slogging and "Last Resort" is going to get canceled and this is why network television ratings make no sense.



Elizabeth Mitchell is just collecting a check as well. If they had cast Andrea Roth (who at least has some edge) and given her the edge of sleeping with the enemy maybe this character would have been interesting but because the audience has to love Juliet (??) they can't give Elizabeth Mitchell any edge at all. They can re-edit why she is with "The Cape" as much as they want it'll never make sense why she just didn't stay with her family and it kind of makes us think even less of dead dad. Its like "OUAT" -- well just keep telling different stories with these characters in the past and maybe the audience will find a reason to like a character in the present one of these times. The only bright spot in this entire cast is Spiradakos - she seems to be dragging the rest of the cast around on her petite shoulders. NBC stop trying to make Billy Burke a lead he's a poor man's character actor. 50 other actors could have made "Miles" an interesting memorable character and NBC went with Burke intstead. If all this is going to be is a show about how even a simple scratch can kill you its going to be BORING.
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As a guy who tolerated Heroes and loathed Hiro from the first "Yatta!" at least parts of Heroes were entertaining, even if it was so unbalanced, they had to break half the characters in some way just to keep the game fair. At least I was happy when a few characters came on the screen, but this is just one long flatline, especially with Maggie never seeing her kids again.
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Heroes got a reputation for being good not because of the numbers, but because the characters were interesting, the actors were good, and a large enough portion of the writing was too. In particular, the stuff with Claire and her friend, the stuff about HRG (especially the reveal that he was Claire's dad), Peter Petrelli's power, the awesome duo Hiro & Ando, Peter and Hiro's determination to do something good with their powers, and the villain Sylar. It had *lots* of got qualities. (Yes, it also had some bad ones).

Eventually the writing on Heroes got a lot worse than anything we've seen on Revolution, but that wasn't during the first season, and it's only the first season of Heroes that has a reputation for being good.
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The amusement park hermit sure did have nice hair. Also his beard was perfectly trimmed. I wonder if he has a magic pendant so he can break out the Norelco now and then.
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Ugh.
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It drives me nuts when on TV shows or Movies there are some pack of dogs, or wild animal, or huge dinosaur... and it's eating let's say another huge dinosaur or antelope or something... and it spots a human and it decides... fuck this food I'm going after this smaller less dead food. Why anyone thinks this makes sense is beyond me.
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Ever heard of territorial pack animals?
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Of course he has, and so has everyone who gave him thumbs up. One of the problems with your argument is that the first dog that goes running after the intruders will be leaving the food to the other dogs. It can't expect the others to follow it, or to have any food left when it gets back. It's not like they're smart enough to discuss the matter and agree to all leave the food until they've killed those pesky humans.

Also, animals that fight for territory, food, mating rights, etc., rarely fight to the death or to serious injury. They only fight until they have an idea who *would* win in a fight, and then the other guy runs away. The winner never follows.
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Careful Rob, Girish is a Revolution expert. You're common sense is futile.
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Yeaaaah sure. You think territorial animals don't exist! Common sense must be brimming out of your brain cells right about now. In this context the guy was just controlling them with the dog whistle. They could have been rabid, crazy and hence attacked. Why don't you think about that!
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Forget for the moment that hunger rules all, you're telling me, in light of all of this, I must now accept that Miles, in all his supposed military brilliance, is stupid enough to show aggression toward a neutral enemy? At what point will you just accept that it's lazy, insane writing -- the kind that would rather its characters do something stupid to fabricate drama "set-pieces," rather than allow them the dignity to find their own?
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Ah but you see, Miles throwing his torch at them took care of the reason for the provocation. Its much better than dinos chasing after puny humans when all they did was stare at them at the wrong way.
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But they we'd have to go back to Rob's point, why would the dogs leave a perfectly good meal? Something they'd only protect.

My overall point is this; why make assertions you can't back up to defend something that isn't defending itself? Certainly, this is a silly technical faux pas by the part of the writers which is (and also isn't) indicative of they're lazy writing. Stuff like this is often looked over, and it really shouldn't be, because it not only speaks to the intelligence of the writers, but also demands less from its viewers.
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Thanks for enlightening me on that. I'm not an animal person, so don't know the exact nature of dogs. But I have seen them attacking humans when provoked. Miles throwing his fire torch at them could be considered as provoking and so that might be the reason they attacked the group.
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I did think about that. And it didn't take me long. I'm starting to think you're just making all this up...animals, by nature, do not attack just to attack. They are motivated by food and hunger. Your "ever heard of territorial pack animals" comment seems to imply that we're talking about dogs, which is laughable. Dogs are scavengers and spend little, if any time, socializing with other dogs, especially in the wild. This is a little different when referring to wolves, though. And before it's said, 15 years isn't long enough to breed out almost 10,000 years of domestication. Even then, you're looking at Beagles being the closest.

Rabid? Now you're just being silly. A pack could NEVER consist of rabid animals, much less function any longer than two weeks once symptoms set in. If anything, these dogs would have growled, barked, and intimidated the humans. Not attack.

Not that it needed to be addressed, but whatever: I never said territorial animals don't exist. I just think it's important to consider the situation -- those involved, before throwing out pointless comments and parading it around as possible fact.
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The writers not doing what you want them to do is not a "plothole" it is a difference in opinion. I wouldn't run from dogs, I would back away slowly. But I'm also not going to be killing housepets on television, unless absolutely necessary and then I'm going to do it off screen. But not making the same decision you would in a situation, says the character isn't you. I'm not going to sit still while the militia takes me to my death, if I can escape I will and I'm not gonna stop. I would have let Neville die, but Danny is trying to not be a murdering because like his father who raised him and his sister, he values human life and he doesn't want that guilt on his head. Maybe that's naive, but it is consistent with both the characterization as we've seen it and the family dynamic. Given that the story is pulling heavily from Wizard of Oz, it isn't unreasonable for me to suspect that Danny is about to leave Kansas and the tornado was signal for that transition, but that's a guess. They are using symbolism, they are making moral points, they are giving characters motivations that are both clear and consistent. Just because Tim doesn't want to think past "why are you running upstairs in horror movie" commentary, doesn't mean that this entire discussion has to center around assumptions of stupidity for perfectly logical actions.
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I like the picture where pathetic Charlie is made to shut the fuck up. Duct tape really can fix everything.
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So much anger... You sound like one of the dogs in the show, Res_Dog.
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We can say "fuck" on here, but "re-tarded" is bad?! That's fucking retarded...
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That's fucking rude and unnecessary.
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No problem, pal.
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Sorry :(
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Does anyone else think that if the show had killed off Charlie instead of Maggie it would have been for the better? Killing off Charlie would have prevented Miles constantly going should I or should I not leave the group, fat rich guy may shut up for a few episodes about his billionaire life in respect of her death, Nate might be constantly debating whether to join or not and give him some character development (or something to do for that matter) and Nora would also finally get some work done rather than sit and pout the entire episode. Maggie was finally becoming a character in Revolution who people could actually appreciate, she is the only cast member at present that viewers can actually care for and come back week after week to watch. Killing her off especially with such a ridiculous storyline was a big no-no, they needed to kill a main character but they went for the wrong one.
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You don't kill the main character in the fourth episode.
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Most shows shouldn't. This one should.
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Charlie isn't the main character. She is the main annoyance. And Ben even died in the first 10 minutes.

Please let Charlie get killed by a dinosaur. When they visit the next theme park, she will be hit by a falling dinosaur of steel. That would be really cool.
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The fact you find her annoying doesn't change the fact the show's being promoted with her at the forefront. But maybe "main character" is too strong. She is important as is Miles. Time will tell which character will become more prominent. anyway, to kill a character as important as Charlie, if it ever happens, it would happen much later in the show.

Yeah, yeah, a dinosaur falls on her head. What about an anvil? Or a piano? Somehow I think if you're seriously expect something like that to happen you'll be quite disappointed.
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You didn't get the Terra Nova reference of getting her killed by a dinosaur. But I would take the piano too, even when it makes no sense.
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I don't think you understand what apologetic means. Also, I can pull on a dog's tail to make it straight, does that make me a winner?
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I was being honest, rather than defending the show the first time around. Can the tail still be straight after you let it go?
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Being honest has nothing to do with being an apologetic as far as this aside is concerned...having said that, with regards to the dog's tail, can I perform surgery?
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cancel this show already NBC. put it out of its misery. i bet that british actress playing Maggie is glad she went out when she 's watching show right now. though i've seen two or three episodes I'm feeling Maggie's death was pointless. british actress was the one who could actually act in this catastophic tv show.
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Why would anyone in their right minds cancel the highest rated new drama, which also happens to be quite a good show! Its already gotten a full season.
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