Revolution "The Stand" Review: The Rebels Strike Back

Revolution S01E11: "The Stand"

Fellow Revolutionaries, it feels good to be back! It's been one day shy of four full calendar months since we last checked in on the adventures of Charlie Matheson, humanity's pouty-lipped last chance for survival. Love, hate, or really hate Revolution, you have to admit that you were kind of excited for it to return, in the same way you might be excited to see how your drunk uncle ruins Christmas this year. I know I was.

But let's not forget, Revolution actually ended 2012 on a slightly-better-than-decent note, with the midseason finale "Nobody's Fault But Mine." Some boob even said that "'Nobody's Fault But Mine' very well may have possibly been the best episode of Revolution so far maybe!" And I'm going to have to agree with late-November 2012 me. David Lyons gave the finest performance of his career—surpassing even that time he got the cape in The Cape—as a distraught Sebastian Monroe who missed his old pal Miles. Rachel went crazy and murdered a torturer who never tortured anyone, just one episode after she went crazy and murdered a scientist who she backstabbed. Miles did everyone a favor and called Charlie an idiot. Rachel's amulet amplifier allowed 'Bas to launch a helicopter that was about to shoot everyone before the show went black. And most importantly, after 10 episodes WE FINALLY FOUND DANNY AND THE MATHESONS WERE REUNITED! Yay!

So of course Revolution's logic was to immediately kill him in the next episode. After all this time, after all the hallucinatory tunnels and evil dogs and child soldiers we encountered on the hunt for this floppy-haired asthmatic, Danny was reduced to a MacGuffin. And once Charlie found him, his importance as a motivating plot device was complete. So Revolution threw him into the open and let him eat a bunch of bullets from an attack chopper! What I would have given for his final line of dialogue to be: "Can I get a hot tub... in heaven!?"


You aren't alone if you wondered what the writers were thinking when they chose to kill off Danny... after spending 10 hours searching for Danny. That's like spending all night making a fancy dinner and immediately flushing it down the toilet as soon as you finish cooking. In a conference call with reporters held last week, series creator Eric Kripke addressed that concern, saying that "I think [killing Danny is] exactly the right type of shocking development that really ramps everybody up emotionally for their mission in the second half of the season. It really emotionally escalates everything." 

I love Kripke (I still insist that Supernatural in Seasons 3, 4, and 5 was outstanding television, and as good as anything else on at that time) but sorry, the whole "motivation" excuse sounds like horseshit to me. Killing a character to provide motivation for other characters is fine and dandy and happens on television all the time, but it's only necessary if those other characters need the motivation because they didn't already have it (or it was waning and needed a boost). Wasn't Charlie already motivated enough to stop Sebastian because, oh I don't know, his men killed her DAD? Maybe the fact that Sebastian held her mom prisoner was also enough to get Charlie off the couch? What about the standard "Sebastian is a mad despot who is looking to take over the world by slaughtering the last of the innocent 'Mericans" line of encouragement? Or in case Charlie's memory is still suffering from the time she hit her head in the Tunnel of Lucid Dreams, may I remind her that earlier in this episode, Monroe ordered the annihilation of a rebel camp and tried to kill her twice? He JUST tried to kill you and all your friends, Charlie. Pick up a newspaper and get caught up on current events, girl! All of these instigators also apply to Miles, Nora, Aaron, and Rachel in some form or another, but I'm still boggled that anyone would think these characters needed more motivation to stick Monroe's fingers into his own powered-up electrical outlets than what they've already experienced. 

But that's Revolution for ya, and bizarre turns of events are part of the reason it's a fascinating and perplexing show to watch. They killed Danny! DANNY! They just decided that now would be a good time for someone to die because... who knows why? The series did something similar with its last big death when it killed off Maggie in the fourth episode after spending a big part of the episode showing us her backstory and giving us a reason to like her. About as much time was spent establishing Nora's fear of aquatic reptiles as was spent setting up Maggie's death. It's like the show decides to kill people off and then can't wait to push them out the door, instead of doing the logical thing and making their deaths part of a larger story arc to really rip our hearts out.

That's not to say this episode was bad, in fact, it was pretty okay! For Revolution, I mean. "The Stand" was no side quest and moved things along pretty well, continuing the events of "Nobody's Fault But Mine" instead of wasting time on some silly standalone story. This is when Revolution is technically at its best, when it's pushing things along in a serialized format (though the accidental humor of the standalone stories is what I look forward to most). But that doesn't mean there isn't room for the series' trademark lazy storytelling. 

The "stand" in the episode title dealt with a rebel camp figuring out how to stop an impending air strike from Monroe's forces, and the crux of the episode involved Miles and Rachel getting some weapons to stop it. The writers' solution? Create a character who Rachel knows and whose hobby is making high-tech weapons AND who also has a power amulet! Well, that was an easy and convenient way to get a power amulet back into the hands of the good guys. The writers also threw in a wrinkle where he'd already been "got to" by the bad guys, and he knocked Rachel and Miles out with a "sonic cannon" with the intent of handing them over to Monroe. But not only does the power not work in this universe, knots don't either, and for the millionth time in the history of this series, someone (Miles, joining Charlie and Danny) broke their bonds with a few flicks of the wrist. The Monroe Militia really needs to include a knot-tying class or the course "Zip Ties 101: How to Pull That One End Through The Other End" in its basic training. Miles knuckle-struck the scientist, and Rachel and Miles bolted with a guided rocket launcher to shoot down the helicopters.

They arrived JUST IN TIME (phew!) to use the hardware on the choppers because fortunately the helicopters forgot they had missiles that could have blown everyone up and instead shot at the ground a lot. There was some serious gunfire exchanged despite the well-known bullet shortage, and Miles was knocked down from the explosion of a missile, opening up the door for Danny to become a hero after Charlie told him to run inside like a scaredy cat and assume the crash position because she couldn't let him die. I have to give the show credit: It really felt like they were only setting Danny up to prove his worth to the group by shooting down the helicopter, which he did. A hero was born! But then he was killed. Either way, his death was very unexpected! I mean, as unexpected as can be when a guy just stands there right in the open while helicopters are shooting at him.

Surprisingly, the episode didn't milk the death as much as I would've expected, and after a commercial break, mom and sis were just sitting there like, "Well, I guess we have to kill Monroe now" like their vacation had just been cut short, instead of mourning the death of their brother/son. And in the final scene of "The Stand," Rachel cut dead Danny open and pulled out some sort of flashing medical device (above) that was implanted through some experimental medical procedure to help out his asthma, I guess? I don't know. Anyone out there know what that was all about? Was Danny a robot? Did he swallow a Lite-Brite when he was a kid? Was it some sort of GPS tracking thing? Was it just another moment of Revolution randomness? 

Revolution returned from its break with a huge death, but not much else. Kripke promises that answers are coming soon, and I have it on good authority that one of the series' biggest questions gets answered two episodes from now. But will the answer to that question give us any more reason to watch the show? That depends on the inevitable million new questions that arise once we know the details of the power outage. Anyway, it's legitimately great to have this show back.



NOTES

– The picture above is a screenshot of Danny right before he gets shot. I like how the girls are all, "Yay! You did it!" and the guys are like, "Duck behind some cover, dude!"

– Haha at Charlie and Nora dragging a horse-drawn cart of coffins and corpses out of Monroe territory and getting checked by the border police. Charlie: "Smells killer, huh?"  Revolution felt that it was necessary to show us how the gang got out of town, even though we weren't concerned about it at all. And now all we're left wondering is how they got that cart and the dead people in the first place!

– Captain Tom Neville and his son Jason finally had their falling out. But my question is this: How did Neville get out of the closet from the last episode?

– In case of helicopter attack, jump into a walk-in fridge. You'll be fine!

– It's still kind of hard to care about Randall when we don't know much about him. So he's working with Monroe, but what can he offer?

– The most interesting thing to come out of "The Stand" will be Revolution's ratings. NBC has a lot of hope riding on the show's return, but will the audience come back, or did the four-month break kill its momentum?



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I say bravo don't know what they did for four months but it was an improvement. I said it would take a miracle to get me to season 2 and episodes like this may be that miracle. Danny's death pissed me off but the cool intro of Randal into Monroe's life and the rfid chip pulled from dead Danny made up for it.
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Oh Revolution. Oh, oh, oh Revolution. What was the purpose of killing Danny when we spent all this time trying to get him back? Let me ponder on that one. It was so annoying. Danny had so many possibilities.He spent so much time being written off as this weakling because of his debilitating asthma. He had something to prove, and the others coddled him. I mean sometimes they talked about Danny as though he was ten years old or something and now a freaking manchild. By setting him up to have something to prove, and also showing that in the rarest of rare moments he had more smarts than his annoying sister, throughout the times he was held captive and what not. I just knew they'd do something interesting with Danny. He should a little spunk and had spurts of defiance and guile that Neville seemed to respect a bit. I had hopes that Danny could have somehow ended up in the militia himself, be hit brainwashing and Stockholm syndrome after waiting so damn long for his sister to save him, or maybe as his own undercover mission to destroy them form the inside. Either way, I could have seen them making a soldier out of this presumed weakling. He could have developed into a more well rounded character that had his own something special to offer to his sister and co. He could have gave them valuable intel to help them take down Monroe. He could have done a million things. But instead, they gave him that brief moment of glory after being waved off and coddled by his mom and his sister. There was one brief moment of heroic glory in him seizing the missile and shooting like a champ, but that moment of awesome was instantly taken away from him when he stood there like an idiot and waited to be shot. I couldn't even feel bad for him, because he just practically asked for that. You shoot and duck for cover. This is common darn sense. For the love of all that is right in this world!
-So why kill Danny? Simple. Hot, potentially reformed, future love interest, with the potential for the third? Fourth? redemptive story arc of the show, well, that trumps, kinda pathetic, liability, asthmatic brother. Trumps it all the time. Now it's time for the will they won't they, good girl/bad boy, section of the show. Obviously every show needs this. Obviously. Exit Danny, Charlie's less pesky sick little bro. Enter Neville's son, Charlie's future love interest. Because watching Tracy S. force sexual tension with wonder boy is going to be almost as fun as watching Kristin Stewart attempt to smile.
-And...I got nothing else.
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Thank you for laying that out so awesomely.
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And u gotta love the fact that after all these years those choppers are in perfect working condition and Monroe just happened to have skilled pilots on standby.
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I was really hoping the four month break would give the writers time to write the story in a way that doesn't feel like it's brig made up on the fly but no. The same old crap. Every episodes Charlie will make a pouty face for thru the whole thing then suddenly find toughness and motivation in the end, only to start the next episode in pouty face mode again. The character interactions will continue to be flat and illogical. Every weak they'll invent a new character as a cheap way of trying to drive the plot. Absolute garbage.
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I've only watched five episodes so far so reading about Danny's death was a spoiler, to put it mildly. However, I said in episode four that I wished they got rid of him already. The plot was getting very tiresome, very fast, and it seemed like they were just rehashing the same events over and over, albeit in different settings.

I even started to root for good ol' Tom, that's not good right?

In any case, the events and twists are moving too quickly for me. Watching this mess is like eating a vanilla-sprinkled chocolate cake with extra cream on top while drinking sugar-free coke.
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I don't watch the show previews that follow TV Episodes because shows nearly always end on Cliff Hangers now and the previews spoil them every time. Unfortunately I caught one of the dozens of promo commercials for Revolution and of course they spoiled the crap out of it with a "Someone won't live to the end". Immediately I knew it would be Danny and thankfully it was.

I don't know why they cast a bronzed ripped adult to play the character of a scared weak little boy but I'm glad the confusion is now over. I had actually assumed he was supposed to be mentally handicapped in some way but I'm thinking now that it must have just been god awful acting.

Lastly, I would have sent the generator in something heavily armored like a tank. Choppers are faster but a lucky shot from a pistol could easy take out the pilot and the entire thing. Kind of putting all their eggs in one basket.
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This episode was "pretty good" for Revolution, I was taken into the action even if the actions are not consistent and believable at all. Danny's death was right on time: he was way too weak, but he went out as a hero.
Rachel is a very bad actress as always and the guy with the beard and the glasses needs to go also, he is so annoying.
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the 'walking dead' curse strikes again... is it a shock yes ! is it good tv maybe if your retarded....is it unexpected? duh.... number of shits given about the show from now on 'zero'....

hey future writers if you going to kill people off don't waste the first season making such a big deal about them... oh yeah it's twist... but now you make him out to be a mule for something important... really... isn't that kinda very dark place to go? from most peoples veiws he was family a friend and a son but his own mother decides to loot his fresh corpse ?

wow what the hell where these guys smokin ?
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Haha, this show is trash, only Tim's reviews keep me watching it. Much like Terra Nova. I wish this gets cancelled and the next season we get something equally terrible. You know... just to keep things fresh.
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No seriously, after returning from the break, I can now safely say: This show is an embarrassment for all involved.
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... And Charlie walked one thousand miles, and she will walk one thousand more...
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on the high road...
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*gasp* I actually agree with Tim!
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Too narrow-minded. Danny's death, though sad, makes sense and I like that they did it. Does death ever have to make sense? Does it need a point? People die all the time. Death happens. Death in The Walking Dead always happens, sometimes with no point, but its due to the world they live in. Same applies here. If it was a random red shirt shooting down a helicopter in this episode, he would have died the same way. Complaining about killing Danny or criticizing the writing is just whining. Death doesn't have to have a reason. Danny died. It sucked. Guess what? It's a war. People die. I love a show that has the balls to kill off big characters. If Danny hadn't been killed there, you still would complain.

I don't feel like the writers need to give us a reason for his death. However, you know what it will do? It'll harden Charlie up. She is a transforming character and losing her dad and brother will change her drastically now. The first half of searching for him wasn't a waste at all. Their journey began because of him. It took naive Charlie and started turning her into a baby warrior. It led them to power, to her mom, and now a building war. None if that would have happened if not for Danny. It was almost poetic he died. It will have a strong character effect on Charlie.

Stop complaining. You aren't writing the show.
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I'd be willing to bet that essentially every person who has said "they killed Danny, that's dumb!" had at some point in the first 10 episode thought to him/herself "Holy Fuck kill this kid already, this is the worst plot line ever!".
Well you can't have your cake and eat it too. You get your wish, Danny's dead. It's like everyone (even the writers) can accept that there was zero point to the first half of the season and move on. Is anyone familiar with the concept of sunk costs? Good for them to not throw good money after bad and wrap up a pointless first half and hopefully move on to bigger and better things.

They killed Danny! This is awesome news, it's like 6 episodes too late, but still! Better late than never. Onward and upwards!
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Remember the flash back scene of Danny in surgery and Rachel saying something about "Are we doing the right thing?" The device taken out of Danny was implanted by them when he was just a toddler so it is going to figure into the plot line somewhere.
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I wanted to stop watching this show but I decided to give it another chance. Well, now after seeing this nonsense killing (well explained in this recap), I'm done with it! I prefer watching a Kripke-less Supernatural than this fiasco. Eric, come back to Supernatural for the final season please!!!
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Great, one useless teenager out of the way. The only problem was that this episode would have been golden in case Charlie had ran right into his arm and one of the solders survived and managed to shoot her too.
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the chopper chases them...they run into a building....the chopper fires rockets...and they happen to find the worlds strongest safe in the building so they survive...minutes later the chopper fires a few rounds at a rebelcamp and everybody dies....a soon as monroe has power to fly with his choppers within minutes they have power to bring them down...why didnt they blow them up before monroe got his power??? and the blood...please try to make it look real pfffff.....this is going in the wrong direction...such a shame
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freezer dude freezer... those doors are pretty solid but the glass 'double glazed or stronger some how isn't scorched black with a little crack ??
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ow oke freezer....yeah that changes everything...whahaha
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glad to be of service :P
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I am so disappointed that Charlie didn't got punched in the face this episode :)
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Your statement and the smiley contradict themselves...
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remembering her being punch always bring a smile to my face :)
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Danny's death was too predictable. Google-guy was EVEN MORE AWFUL than I remember him. Charlie was marginally-less idiotic than before.
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Wow this show is like a car crash...I know its wrong, but I can't look away.

Killing Danny...Why? Especially when they spent the entire first half of the season looking for him. Sure it came as a surprise, but not a good one. I mean hell if anybody should've died, why not Aaron?...what a waste of space.

Great review, made me laugh quite a bit. At this point I think I am watching the show for the same reasons you are.

Lets see what stupidity the show has in store for us next week.
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Danny's death scene was so stupid, yet somehow I expected it. I can't even imagine how they're going to wrap up this season.
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Badly
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Well, that show hit a new low with this episode. Quite obviously the writers don't really care about plausability.

- Why would anyone take bodies from Philadelphia to a morgue outside of Philadelphia? Heck, why would anyone take bodies to a morgue in a post-apocalyptic world? To disect them?

- Why does it take Monroe 15 years to get a steam-powered train to work, but helicopter fighter pilots he has in ample supply?

- Why didn't said fighter pilots fire rockets at the rebels instead of wasting ammunition on them?

- Why do all characters that have a connection to the power amulet live in wallking distance of Philly?

- Why has Monroe still not renamed his country to USA and changed the flag to easily and bloodlessly get rid of the rebs?

Anywho, I'm happy that that blonde guy bought it. Couldn't remember most of the chars name after the mid-season brake. Though i'd have been much happier if annoying Charlie had been shot. God, Sylvester Stallone has more facial epxressions then her!


I do hope the ratings drop and there won't be a second season I have to sit through to read Tim Surette's reviews.

Though it seems a bit to me that he caught the Stockholm syndrome and starts to sympathize with his kidnappers (of time well spent watching other series).

Go Monroe! Bess is the besst!
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Six live people and one corpse; one cart, two seats up front, four coffins. How did they all fit in? I know it's Revolution, there is no answer.
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Dannny, no!! lol. About time, that kid was irritating. At least Charlie isn't quite so useless. Still lots of dumb moments, they know a copter is coming but do not hide and try to sneak attack it just out in the open, duh. Charlie has some dopey expressions but we gotta love her enthusiasm.
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I surprisingly enjoyed reading Tim's review. That's a first. It had a good balance. A nice blend of this ep's criticisms, positive developments, Tim's opinions on how to improve the show and humor. But totally think that the previous 10 eps were a waste of time now that Danny was killed.
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Was I the only one to burst out laughing when Danny the " guy who has as many faces expressions as a cow " was killed ? It was the best moment of the whole season ! Now, if the other could get killed as well ...
Seriously, the show is an insult to the people who actually like it : what was the point of the last episodes ? Why make the search of Danny seem so important if they wanted to kill him ?
I think that Kripke and co realized that the guy who plays Danny is a terrible actor and that Danny was a character that was more a nuisance than anything else. They only killed him to get rid of him, not because they needed an emotionnal incentive !
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Really glad Surette's back as TV.com's reviewer for "Revolution" - that will prevent me from watching the show while still sorta following it!
And, after reading this article, I can say without a doubt I ain't missing much...
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This is an awful lot of comments about a bad sci-fi show. Are we talking cult classic here for this show that more people love to hate than actually like it because they think it's good? Okay, it's not good but sci-fi on network TV is getting leaner with every season. Could this be all we get for a while? If so then we're screwed, screwed I tell ya...
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Just because the people who come to this forum seem to dislike the show, that doesn't mean most people who watch it hate it. I mean, it's such a small number of people it's not representative. And just because say they hate it, doesn't mean they do hate it. I mean, if you someone watches every single episode of a TV show, there's bond to be *something* they find genuinely interesting.

You can mock a movie, or a couple episodes. But if you're a constant watcher, admit it, you like it.
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We need a new term because shows like this don't deserve the title 'cult classic'.
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David Lyons' gave one of the best performances of the season in the last episode. Anyway, this was a pretty enjoyable episode. Killing off Danny was a true shocker. His death will now propel the story forward and solidify their will to fight Monroe.
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The script for this show is soo bad. How many more dumb instances of actions are to be put aside with, "It's complicated"? I'm reminded of Angel in Buffy when asked to explain events by the gang and he said it's long and complicated; only for Buffy to say, "...Well X happened and then Y and then we got Z..." to wit Angel's left with, "Or that"!!! Come on FFS people. They walk or take pony and trap (rhyme it!) rides everywhere. What the Hell else do they do on these journeys, play eye spy?!
The effects. Wow. I thought 70s/80s stuff was bad - at least they have the classic cheese factor. For example, even the worst hard up shows have people flying back when hit with an M60, instead of looking down at your 4 stomach holes and having time to go, "Oopsie"!!
And the makeup effects for facial injuries are hilarious. I can't recall the last time seeing so many basic red lines on actors as supposed split skin wounds. Do they hire college interns to save money?
Some decent actors here wasted on poor premises and scripts in general - notably, I'm looking at you Ms. Mitchell and Snr. Esposito.
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Really going to miss Danny, no one on the show had more chemistry than him and Captain Neville.
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When we saw the preview for this episode, we were making fun of how dead they would be after that explosion. I was assuming that they just ran through the building and were already out on the other side when it got blown up. Now we know that the writers get their ideas about how the world works from Indiana Jones movies.

When that helicopter got shot down, the other one crashed too. If one amplifier+necklace gadget kept both helicopters powered up, then why did the RPG need a necklace gadget too?



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Obviously the amplifier must only broadcast laterally, not vertically or in a sphere.
I actually would have much preferred them to just find a horde of weapons with a guy who doesn't conveniently also have a pendant to power them. You should call up Eric and see if you can write for his show.
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You are not really allowed to ask any reasonable questions regarding script, plot or continuity when it comes to Revolution.

If you decide to watch it, you either:
1) Watch it because you like it
2) Watch it because you love to hate it and you want to find out just how dumb Kripke assumes his audience is, or
3) Watch it for the genuine laughs you get from the idiocy of the script.

I realized I am a #3. I was watching it and found myself laughing at how bad it was but realized that was a good thing because I don't watch sitcoms and so humorous TV was a refreshing change for me.

I originally had high hopes for the show as a dystopia epic but now I don't care. I will watch it for the lighthearted, humorous situations.
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I guess I'm both 2 and 3. There seems to be a trend with stupid shows right now.
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After years they finally think it is a good idea to have power to oppose the militia? Really? This is ridiculous! I'm out!
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They have obviously thought that the whole time, but they didn't know how to get it.
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yes, danny was killed way too soon. but at the same time i dont think i would have been able to stand him screwing up everything for another couple of seasons. the show is better off with him dead.
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Tim, you killed it with this review. You hit on so many things I thought about while watching the show. The missing morgue raid, Danny's 'no way it could happen to me attitude' when squaring off against a helicopter, and the bright light/magic pill thing were tops on my list. But the campy just in time save the day motif, the getting out of knots, and the single solution to there problems being this recluse were right behind, and you made my day when you pointed it all out.

I like how Sebaz is all ready for Miles to die now, and I think Randall's got a good spot lined up for: villain who can cause damage but can be killed off by the heroes. Randall's arc's been solid for me, as It seems he has a need to be a big player in events.

I kept an open mind coming into this show, having been excited by its ending but wondering if the break would also mean a reversion to boring stories/terrible character moments. I'm pleased to say, even with the faults (which I just laugh at now) I think they knocked it out of the park with the return.
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the thing from danny was a mini power allower, he must of had a form of pace maker of some sorts and thats why it was in him and she took it out. Thats why it was a big thing to go get danny, incase monroe found out.
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I think it was a bad decision to kill off danny as really out of all the characters he had the most room to grow. I can't help but think they didn't have the confidence in the actor to achieve that. Not that he'd really been given an opportunity to do so anyway.

Now that Neville's son is switching sides they might not have had the room for him either.
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Revolution is one of those shows that should tick all the boxes for me and yet somehow every episode it seems to make these forehead slapping gaffes, almost like they don't actually want to engender the sort of investment and loyalty that imprints a series into the ethos and brings the attention NBC desperately needs.

Danny was one of the few characters on this show I thought had sense, heart and a brain. He had the courage of his convictions even in the face of certain violence, he was inventive and persistent, and so what if he couldn't run a lap round the track, poor wheezy little asthmatic? It is a mad, sad world that kills off sweet, good-natured young dudes for doing the dumb, glory-hog things young dudes do.

Is this terrible father week, and no one sent me the memo? Jeez, I must be really outta touch. Oh, but that look on Jason Neville's face when Charlie said he was persona non grata despite his choked confession of having no place else to go. Sniff, lip quiver, sniff. That was precious. I cannot believe that boy actually thought she was going to trust him after he'd burned her numerous times in the past; he actually looked at her walking away with something akin to disbelief on his face. Good for you Charlie, stay strong girl.

Charlie. That poor girl. She has gone from naive, moody teen to enraged, lethal assassin in 11 episodes. Good thing she has jaded Uncle Miles around to teach her how not to get herself killed like she just asked Danny not to do.

Oh, but wait, because Uncle Miles may be a little distracted by the love triangle thing going on between he, Nora and Rachel. Or did I just imagine the weird, heavy, wistful, poignant vibes he seemed to have going on with Rachel? There is a ton of heavy water under their bridge and in true Revolution fashion the entire vein will undoubtedly be mishandled. Declaring right now, Team Nora, just saying.

I was pretty excited about Revolution's return (and I mean, how could you not be when NBC went all out on letting us know about it, right?) yet this episode was a disappointment and doesn't offer me much hope that the issues which plagued the 1st half of the season have been addressed and corrected.
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I like SF shows with a bit of mystery, but what I don't like with these shows is when at the end of an episode there are more questions while nothing got answered.
I like it when in each episode they answer a question or 2 and raise a few others. Then you get some feeling of progress. For instance, one of my favorite shows are Star Gate SG1 and Star Gate Atlantis. In each episode some questions were answered and a lot of new ones were raised. So after each episode you know a little bit more of the whole story and at the same time you can't wait to see the next episode to get more of it.

Of course I like to know how the power went out and why. But really every time they ask Rachel she answers with the most used line in Hollywood: "It's complicated".
Those three words should be banished from the language, it's bad writing as it basically means either the writers don't have a clue or they do but can't find any other way of letting the viewers know that they are not telling yet.

It sucks they killed of Danny. They could have given him a couple of more episodes in which he could do some more stupid things (like in the scene where is dad got killed).
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If you only watched the "Previously on..." you didn't miss anything from the first half of the season.
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I watched 15 minutes and bored to be honest. I'll try and get the other 30 minutes in tomorrow...
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Wow, tv.com really is a place for a bunch of haters isn't it? In every single comment section, if it's not The Walking Dead, Spartacus, or Game of Thrones the entire comment section is filled with people hating whatever is being discussed.

Luckily that's the main reason I come to this site. If I want to see what the fans think of an episode, I go to the show's tumblr page, if I want to see what the haters think I come here. It's fortunate that there's no middle ground. If it's not one of the three shows mentioned above, the tv.com staff WILL have problems with it, and 90% of the comments WILL involve hating something about the show, if not the entire show.
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You have noticed that too huh, and not only is it this site, from what I have seen it's on the reviews done by this Tim guy, just look at his review for the pilot of The Following, it's as if he saw the trailer before hand already decided he hated it, than wrote the review as if he had it on in the background while he was doing something else, he had facts wrong at one part he called it "The Killing", saying one of the big reasons it sucks was cuz of the use of Marilyn Manson's cover of "Sweet Dreams" and he even criticized the people who like it, It was childish and hack written.

Here is a link to a review I wrote back for ep 5 but it also has to do with all the nitpicking I think you will like it

http://thedoctorwho747.tumblr.com/post/46380795033/revolution-review-from-ep-5-and-general-rant
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Great so you love The Following and can't handle that Tim has a different opnion to you. In the comments to the review of the pilot there were plenty of people that agreed with you and plenty that agreed with Tim, guess that screws up the commenters-are-all-h8ers mantra.
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I did not not write in my previous comment that every person was a hater on The Following review. However since my comment was a response to Auriken I can understand how it might have come off that way and that was my mistake and I should have clarified. I can handle someone who has a different opinion than me just fine, but to respect the opinion it should have the facts right and presented in an intelligent manner, which that Tim guy did the opposite. I have written on more than one occasion that some people don't watch shows, they look at them and probably with a pen and paper to write down every nitpick so they can bitch about later on.
From the very first line about "Sweet Dreams" his entire review did exactly that, it was nitpicking and insulting, calling the song "the soundtrack for torture porn movies for emo teenagers from Hot Topic" I am neither a teenage goth, nor do I ever go into Hot Topic, or watch torture porn, and I like the song. T
Than let's not forget his shock at Kevin Williamson, show creator and writer of Scream which was filled with quiet jump out scares which he praises, would put those into the show which he criticizes.
He also appears to believe himself to be an expert on both serial killers, and their portrayals on tv, and he gives some examples. Gus Fring from Breaking Bad, Ben Linus "Lost" The Governor on TWD, all excellent examples of NOT serial killers. He than says serial killers can only work in movies, clearly he hasn't heard or seen "Dexter"
Than he also appears to think himself an expert on cults, "coolest part of a show about a cult is seeing the seduction of the idiots who are willing to join, and because none of us are stupid enough to join a cult ourselves" Right cuz if that were true than there wouldn't be cults would there? Than he also picked a line here and there thinking that the followers were recruited only online which was not right, than complains that while we were presented who some of the Followers were, like the nanny and gay couple, but that we were not given answers on their pasts and how they were recruited, in the PILOT. I'd like to know one serilized show gives huge answers in the pilot episode, they don't, some don't even give some till season finales and maybe even later ala Lost.
Finally his bitching about the Poe stuff, yeah we get it that the need to explain which poem or story was what was a bit overused, but not because the writers think we the audience are stupid, but there are people out there who aren't big readers including the younger generation who may not have either heard of Poe, or at least have heard of him but never read any of his stuff.
And finally the biggest proof of looking without watching is his line
"Just a reminder that part of Bacon's stipulation to star on a TV series was to keep seasons of "The Killing"
to a maximum of 15 episodes per season." The Killing? wrong fucking show.
Anyway I didn't mean to write this much and I'll stop cuz there is so much more, but it was neccessary to proof that this hack not just The following writes these "reviews" with an already decided opinion and just writes things he saw in trailers and something in the background. That is the kind of opinion I do NOT respect.
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You certainly don't have to respect Tim's opinions. Obviously Tim had many issues with the pilot of The Following and whether you decide he's identified crucial flaws and weaknesses or is just nitpicking is up to you. However your claim that he just watched the trailer and then the show only in the background is absurd given the level of detail in his review. And fixating on his Killing instead of Following mistake is pretty weak (are you seriously suggesting that he thought Kevin Bacon was in The Killing?). In my opinion the rebuttals you've made to Tim's review are not particularly persuasive because e.g.
- He didn't say only Hot Topic shoppers like Sweet Dreams
- He didn't say serial killers can only work in the movies, he was talking specifically about deranged serial killers who aren't shown a rationale for their actions. I could go on. Personally I wasn't a big fan of the pilot and didn't watch on and I agreed with many of Tim's points. I think your best point against Tim's review, one I agree with, was his issue with not showing why the followers joined the cult. I agree that it shouldn't be expected that details like that all be provided in the pilot.
Still the show hasn't been critically acclaimed and it appears that Nick's reviews on the show on this site aren't any more positive than Tim's, given his views on the show are fairly consistent with critical opinions I'm not sure why you'd be so convinced that his views are ingenuine.
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Funny, I come here to see people whine about people talking about bad shows. Looks like we both found what we were looking for.

Also, TWD is awful, but it has zombies. They at least have an excuse for all the stupid crap they do (the zombies, not the characters). Hell, if some of the characters on Revolution were made into zombies, we might actually get a bit more focus out of them.
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TWD isn't awful all the time. Sometimes it's pretty good. And even the below average episodes are likely to be like the 4th or 5th TV show episode airing that week, because most other shows are worse.
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I do hear from reliable sources that season three is the best season, but I'm over it. I thought season three of True Blood was the best season, but it didn't make up for the next two. Basically, I'm free, and I'm gonna go with it.

If they're still praising TWD a few eps into season four....maybe.
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I'm glad I'm able to fill that niche.

What about the stupid crap the humans do? Seriously, you'd think after killing so many zombies they'd get better at it at a believable pace. The only thing dangerous about slow moving zombies is when they have a numbers advantage, but you'd think that having those brains zombies crave so much would give the humans an intelligence advantage. But nope, they're all dumb as rocks.

At least Charlie, every haters favorite punching bag for this show, is getting better at staying alive. She's becoming a little less stupid as the show goes on. Slowly, but at least she's using her head more than the characters on TWD.
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Oh, the humans do stupid crap, as well, it's just that unlike the zombies, they have no excuse. Pretty much all the humans on both of these shows suck, but one has zombies, which don't suck. They're the only thing keeping the show going. To change an old phrase, "They ain't gotta do shit but stay dead and die." I don't watch either show anymore, ftr.
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I love Elizabeth Mitchell & Giancarlo Esposito but I am afraid I am throwing the towel...
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During the long slow motion of Danny's death and fall I oddly felt myself cheering. The whole "getting Danny back" story distracted the show. Maybe it can get better now, but this episode was an above average episode for me at least
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Here we go again...
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I feel like this show is gonna be like Lost: So many question that you'll eventually either forget or will have to write them down and after answering 2 of those million, they'll throw another 100 and by the end, they'll never answer, but somehow it'll still work for me... I don't get me either, don't worry...
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Yeah, killing Danny was unnecesary motivation. Seriously, 10 episodes searching for the guy and he dies on ep.11? Come on bro.
Still, I actually liked it and I do like the show!
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I admire your optimism (no, I'm not being sarcastic since I also like this show). :)
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LOL yeah well, I truly believe it will have the LOST effect on me. Hopefully, it's not just my optimism... We'll see...
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Miles should have given Danny his "magic pills" to make him invincible. If Miles could survive a rocket that blew up not 5 feet away, Danny should have been able to survive a few rounds from a Gatling gun.
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I get the outcome of Danny's death and I can even say that it had an impact, but seriously, the entire plot from the first half of the season was all for nothing.
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