Spartacus: War of the Damned "The Dead and the Dying" Review: Pompey Comin'

Spartacus: War of the Damned Episode 9: "The Dead and the Dying"


The story of Spartacus’s rebellion has survived in the collective Western consciousness for over two millennia because it’s one of the great true-life revenge tales on record. Revenge is a potent story generator because it provides the sort of thrill most people will only ever experience vicariously. From the Third Servile War to The Count of Monte Cristo to the Batman mythos to Django Unchained, revenge fantasies let us channel our human desire for violence into situations where we can still preserve a moral self-conception—where evil is done only to those who have it coming. 

Yet it’s fitting that a second season subtitled Vengeance would be followed by a third season clearly marking both heroes and villains as condemned. War of the Damned has often considered the limitations and the costs of vengeance. At the end of “The Dead and the Dying,” Naevia surrendered her shot at retribution for the greater good. Kore, lacking a warrior’s resolve, did not. Her freedom within the rebel camp put Kore in a position to claim revenge against her former tormentor, but that revenge cost her that freedom.

Tiberius’s eagerly anticipated offing aside, not too much happened to advance the larger narrative in the series’ penultimate installment. Sandwiched between the momentous coda for Crixus and next week’s series finale, “The Dead and the Dying” focused primarily on moving the characters into position, both physically and psychologically, for the final clash. Even that one noteworthy plot development was something we all knew was coming. Tiberius, at this point, was Mr. Boddy: the only mystery remaining was who would kill him, where, and with what. (Ms. Kore, with the Dagger, in the rebel camp equivalent of the Hall.)

The execution of his execution, though, was significant for how it advanced several character arcs. By agreeing to hand over Tiberius in exchange for 500 rebel prisoners, Naevia placed a higher value on the lives of her allies over the death of her enemy—a choice she hasn’t always made in the past. However, by giving into her rage, Kore became a true tragic figure. Having already been stripped not only of her status, but also of bonds to both of the men she'd considered downright familial, she threw away her most valuable remaining asset: her chance to live and die a free woman. It wasn’t to the loving arms of Marcus that she returned, but to the cold rule of a dominus. Practically alone among the slaves we’ve met in this series (and barring a turnaround next week), she has ended up worse than she began.

Crassus, too, has lost his most treasured relationships, both to betrayals known and unknown. The war has been gradually chipping away at his vaunted composure, and with his son’s murder, he has a personal stake in the conflict that negates much hope of regaining that clinical detachment. Like every one of his opponents (and, presumably, like many of his soldiers), he’s got a vendetta now.

All this was triggered by the discovery that Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus is rapidly approaching. The arrival of Rome’s most heralded general is bad news for both sides—he threatens to trap the rebels between two insurmountable armies, and in the process he threatens to undermine the glory and position Crassus has so meticulously worked to reap from this war.


But with crisis came opportunity for some. Spartacus relished the chance to deploy a little belated counter-espionage right out of the imperator’s own playbook. After butchering Pompey’s recon squad and lifting their credentials, the rebels conjured up a fake messenger to lure Crassus out of camp. Recognizing the impostor immediately, Caesar’s swift power play in response was somewhat harder to swallow. Allowing an entire group of soldiers to walk blindly into a trap set by the enemy, just to untraceably rid himself of Tiberius, ushered in a new level of ruthlessness from a guy who’s proved to be a generally forward-thinking commander thus far.

Those twin machinations lead to the episode’s exhilarating, evocative set-piece, a recreation of the gladiatorial games that, like last week’s eulogy to Crixus, conspicuously brought the series’ past front and center. This was the first episode since “Libertus” where arena combat drove the brunt of the action, and at times it had a vibe similar to a clip show. From Spartacus toying with two opponents while barehanded to Gannicus one-upping the Champion by spanking three at a time, the revelry was tinged with a sense of wistful tribute to the series roots.

The crescendo arrived with the roll call of the fallen, every voice in the crowd heralding the name of a comrade lost. Again, it carried a whiff of the retrospective, but it also brought into appropriate relief the price the rebels have paid to come this far, and the emotional ties this deeply visceral series has forged with its audience as it girds its loins for the final showdown.



NOTAE ALIAE

– I was pleasantly surprised to see Naevia and Agron back this week, even if Agron had to gut out a damn crucifixion. Many of you had mentioned they appeared in the promo for this episode, but the press screeners don’t include the “next-time-on...” segments so I wasn’t aware of their survival 'til I popped this one in.

– Tiberius’s death was pretty tame by Spartacus standards, but the build-up to it was pretty gratifying since it was one humiliation after another. Kore stopping by to taunt him in irons was hilariously dickish, if only because he was dense enough to fall for it. Even more poetic was Naevia, a former body slave, battering away whatever self-worth Tiberius still possessed in the arena.

– The recitation of names from the crowd reminded me of another stab-happy show that busts out the big emotional guns every now and then, The Vampire Diaries, which staged a similar tear-jerking scene early this season in “Memorial.”

– “I wish for him all that he deserves.”

– “I had hoped to embrace the imperator himself. Yet fate delivers me a shadow of the name Crassus.”

– “I would see them give honor to the dead in advance of joining their ranks.”

– “Gladiators seek to best all. It’s the only way to survive in the arena.”

– Remember, kids: Always bring your glove to the arena. You never know when you might take home a souvenir severed head that’s been flung into the crowd.

– “The way it fit hand, I thought it forged for woman—or sickly child.” BURN.

– “He would offer Jupiter’s throne in return for festering disease that sprung from noble loins.”

– “I held your life in my hands. Live each moment knowing that one day soon, I shall reclaim it.”

– “I have balanced fucking scale.”

Body Count: 22, in a light week with no major combat engagements. With one episode to go the season total stands at 459.


What did you think of the episode? Did Crixus’s funeral bring dust to eye?

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So happy the shit, Tiberius, is dead. A death by either of the women he wronged is a satisfying end
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You know the end is nigh when everyone starts to remember the "good old times". ;)
And they really want us to miss this show, these past episodes have been more than great and a little sentimental, a combination of "KILL THE ROMANS!" and "look how far we've come and what(who) we've lost in return".

Loved the tribute to Crixus and the other fallen men, I always said if they chose to go down the historic route and make Crixus die before Sparty, I want them to do the force-Romans-to-fight-as-gladiators-Crixus-tribute-thing because it is just the perfect way for Spartacus to honour his friend.

I also really liked how Tiberius died. That little shit doesn't deserve a glorious or even a semi-glorious death.
I'm really hoping against all odds that someone makes it out alive of this.
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Tibby played a good role in getting everyone to hate him "as the festering disease that sprung from noble loins"
In all fairness he was made a monster by Daddy expecting him to take responsibilities beyond his years and setting numerous examples in cold blooded deviancy as examples for unready son to follow; then to cap it all the injustice of decimation heaped on him and his pal who in fairness were the only ones who didn't scarper under a firestorm.
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Caesar: I am Julius Fucking Caesar
Tibby: Hold him against the table

*Viewers get mooned*

That is not a monster created out of Daddy's expectations!
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i love caesar :) xxxxxxxxxxx
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For me, the larger battle scenes of the war, while beautifully done (I really like the comic book feel they gave Crixus' march on Rome, never had the same excitement of the arena fights. Nice to see a throwback and some great fight choreography this episode.
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I want to believe that next weeks episode will see Spartacus and his men defeating Crassus and his army and then fleeing from Pompeius into the dark to live out their lives in peace.

One can only hope.
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Fantastic episode!

I love how they went back to gladatorial combat, those have always been the best coreagraphed. Appropriate change from what actually happened historically where Spartacus crucified several roman prisoners after Crixus' death.

The character interaction this episode was great. I especially like how Gannicaus spoke of the great honor of gladatorial combat, which seemed to surprise / scare his new girlfriend. Also I like the way they have taken Kore, that she could not have killed Crassus as Neavia said she should have because as much as she is a slave, she is also in love with the man. From the start of that relationship I have had a feeling Crassus will crucify Kore last in the last episode (I do hope they keep that part of history in the storyline, it's important to depict that 6,000 slaves lost their lives in such a gruesome manor. But feel free to accompany the act with a Braveheart like "FREEDOM" shout). Time will tell if I guess right.

Watching the episode twice just this weekend, I started thinking about how the series have evolved over the last four years. In the start it was for me merely good entertainment as I love series about that period (go watch the series Rome if you all haven't), but now it has really become something more. There are genuinely good characters and character development here. I only hope that the producers have gotten a taste for the series and thus move on to more like minded series, there are so many to take from this historical period.
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Appian describes Crixus' funeral in detail as including gladiatorial tributes, not crucifixions, though Plutarch is vague on the subject. Probably we'll never know precisely what went down, so the fictionalized version presented in this episode, complete with built in chance at a chance for selflessness on the part of Naevia, worked fine for me.
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Yes, by accounts I read he sacrificed 300-400 captured legionaries to gladiatorial tribute in front of a pyre, not crucifixion. Cicero also spoke of the insult in speech in 57BC. I liked the way they did it in this episode since it had important symbolism. By doing it Spartacus was signalling their freedom and lifting Crixus to status of equal standing to that of a high standing Roman since funeral games were reserved for victorious generals, consuls and praetors. It also gives a noble reason for Spartacus to turn South to face Crassus if that is the way its going (The show has jumbled around the historical events quite a lot to get to this point so its better not to compare too much. Anyway, for me its nice what they've done with the story). Love this show and will be sad when it finishes...
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Goosebumps ...
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Gratitude, producers of Spartacus, for one of the best tv-shows i yet led eyes upon
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Tiberius is dead...finally the little brat...!!! He was really annoying...! Too bad, he didn't die in battle, but on the hands of Kore...which i didn't expect....it was nice to see them fight like they did in the Arena...first season...!! Loved this episode...so nice to see Araghon back in the series...!!!!
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A couple weeks ago, I mentioned that we don't get Spartacus until Sunday night up here in Canada and watching it back to back coupled with TWD was the best two consecutive hours of television you could hope for. Boy was I wrong!!! Now Spartacus and Game of Thrones air back-to-back (different channels but still). Holy crap are Sunday's great. (for one more week anyway)
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Ends, not does.
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I believe word broke of cancellation early into this season giving writers cause to tie loose does with haste. Better to do that than to leave things in tie air like other cancelled shows I enjoyed.
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its not getting canceld the writers intended to do just the 3 seasons (+ prequel coz of andy)
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If I were Navia I would have cut his face to give him a scar reminiscent of Tyrion's, so that every time someone looked at him they would know, and each time he saw his reflection he would be reminded of his defeat. Although I guess it wouldn't have mattered considering he did get very far after she let him go.
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102 comments (pro-Spartacus) and tons of fans who haven't commented and yet still ignored on the FTW list! Andy, can't you recommend Spartacus for a FTW? I think the "honoring or shout out to the dead" would of been a FTW moment....
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Yes definetly FTW!! Goosebumps everywhere during that scene..
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And Liam, Congratulations! U actually surpassed expectations as Spartacus. Andy (RIP) would have had been proud!
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Was sad news regarding Andy (RIP) but credit to how the show stood by him and did the prequel and then got Liam in. He has been an excellent Spartacus - managed to fill very big boots and make the character his own rather than be a replacement.
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As usual, I thoroughly enjoyed Spartacus for being the caviar truffles of great TV entertainment. There will always be displacements as TV is supposed meant for suspension of facts to make the story more compelling. Good job. Let's now see next week's grand finale. Spartacus!!!
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it was nice having the past 2 episodes honor the loss of Crixus but I guess it has to serve for all of them.; sInce the next episode might see most if not all into the after-life - not sure how the writers could honor losing the rest...
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"Allowing an entire group of soldiers to walk blindly into a trap set by the enemy... ushered in a new level of ruthlessness from a guy who’s proved to be a generally forward-thinking commander thus far". Actually this made perfect sense to me. Among those that escorted Tiberius were the only people that had knowledge of Caesar's rape. In other words he not only rid the world of Tiberius but ensured no one would ever know what happened to him.
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Astute observations. Caesar got his payback, though on the whole I reckon Tiberius got off easy.
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FUCK HISTORY MAKE SPARTACUS LIVE OR WIN
Sparty's child by Laetia is born into freedom in Gaul and is named Vercingetorix who is then Caesars main protagonist when he tries to conquer Gaul in the spin off series.
Yaaaaaayyy...now that would be something to look forward to.
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Well, they never found his body... but having Vercingetorix as his son would be too far fetched considering he was born 10 years or so before the 3rd Servile war. Be up there with Bobby Ewing coming back from the dead cos it was all a dream on the ridiculous scale!
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I hope that the main characters disappear into the unknowns of history!
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...don't get me wrong, i LOVE spartacus, but this is becoming a little silly - it's like children playing war games, so i'm glad it's coming to an end; adding another season would be ridiculous, even though i will miss the 'uniqueness' the show has to offer... however, a ceasar spin-off does sound nice :)
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"Recognizing the impostor immediately, Caesar’s swift power play in response was somewhat harder to swallow."

I consider myself to be a reasonable rational person at a pretty mature part of my life, but if a raging teenager did to me what Tiberius did to Ceasar, I'm not sure I could hold onto my better judgement. While I can't put myself in the shoes of an ancient Roman general raped by a nobleman's son, Ceasar's reaction in this instance was not hard to swallow at all.

Even Crassus, a man painted as a strategic mastermind, is unraveling. Ceasar is still earning his stripes. Being taken over by emotion is still part of his learning curve.
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Magnificant episode once again! The episode even reveals that Spartacus his blades are blessed by the gods themselves.

In his old-skool arena gladiator fight against the two romans, his blades are put in the ground next to each other but by the time he makes his first kill by throwing the roman into them, they stand crossed.... lol.
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No,he put his blades into ground crossed.
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Nope, look closer. The few seconds just after the moment he puts them in the ground, they stand next to each other and thus not crossed
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My mistake then.
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lol.. continuity fumble... they're crossed off camera as he sticks them in, then they're not, then they are again! Nice catch.
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Not quite sure how I feel about this episode. Or.. even about the way in which the writers seem to be building the finale.

One thing more than any other that ruins many a series for me, is when the writers on any given show seem to assume that their audience needs to be hand held through their heroes' end. Case in point such as last week: Crixus' death didn't even register in that scale. While some have lauded how it was presented, I did not think it in keeping with the show's overall stage to date. It seemed far to "soap" and far too little real - especially considering the man actually did live and die in this world as a hero of that war, he deserved a more fitting vantage from which to depart.

This week now, more soap. Campy little exchanges and almost zero movement in the plot. That Agron, or anyone, would survive a crucifixion is just rubbish. History on this subject tells us what happens to the human body once nailed at the wrists and hung up....

And I have to disagree about Caesar; that he chose to maneuver Tiberius was perhaps about the only believable thing at play in all the "intrigues" they set up this episode, given that history has also taught us that he was, above all else, a master strategist and exceeded above all others, even Pompeii, at manipulating outcomes to his advantage. And very dangerous animal indeed, and one of the chief reasons he was killed by his own senators' hands at the peak of his power in Rome.

The show just seem to be moving towards some choices to end the story which may not make much sense. For the sake of entertainment I suppose it will be fine, but I was really hoping that as in the earlier part of the series' life, they would NOT baby its audience into blissful "happy endings." There is another hero here too that deserves more than that, and though he has not been mentioned for weeks, it is my hope his legacy in all this is maintained through the finale as it was presented in the beginning.

To you Andy - in whatever arena you may be.
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I'm alright with how Crixus died, as nobody knows how he actually died. Certain things have to be added to create drama and conflict with the characters. I agree that this episode had almost zero plot development, and I wonder if they can afford that, as there aren't many episodes left.

I can believe that Agron survived his crucifixion. They didn't nail his wrists, they nailed his hands and tied him at the wrists. There'd be much less trauma with a nail through the hand, and way less vital stuff is in the hand than the wrist. And it can take days for crucifixion victims to die. Crassus probably took Agron down as soon as he realized he could be used as a bargaining chip for his son.

Caesar made a pretty believable choice. If I had been raped by a boy, then I'd happily send him to his death, while simultaneously advancing up the ladder.

I don't think there will be a happy ending. Best case, I think Spartacus escapes and his army perishes. That's a bitter sweet ending. Worst case, they all die and are crucified.
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My point about Crixus' death wasn't about the how but about they way in which they didn't even dare show it actually happening, which is different. We saw him injured but the rest was off camera, like it might be too much for people to see.

Regarding crucifixion, the Romans crucified people by nailing their wrists, not their hands - that is way it was not believable to me they way they chose to make the scene, let alone that he would miraculously turn up alive. History details plenty about this method of death since it was repeated well into the middle ages, not just during the Romans' time. Still, you would think they would bother to have made a cleaner choice with Agron either way since he was not of the same "worth" as the others (supposedly).

Meh - I am not knocking the show overall; obviously I have been watching from the beginning and will see it to it's conclusion. Just not real thrilled that they feel the need to stretch so much sometimes when the reality of the history is more than enough.
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'However, by giving into her rage, Kore became a true tragic figure. Having already been stripped not only of her status, but also of bonds to both of the men she'd considered downright familial, she threw away her most valuable remaining asset: her chance to live and die a free woman'

I disagree, she had the easy life as a slave and after killing Tiberius I think she assumed that the risk that forced her to flee was gone. Before she left Crassus was going to put her up in a Villa mistress style. I think she was chasing a bath, good food and accommodation and a good seeing too from the guy she feel for. She never had any loyalty to the slaves.
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I agree brendonis, Kore does not want to be free, she wants to be with the man she loves. She just needed Tiberius out of the way to be able to return back. Crassus is obviously happy to have her back but has been hurt and heartbroken by her escape.
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That was not my preferred episode. Even though it was fun to watch, there have been some inconsinstancy.
First, when the romans have Agron in their hands and they know he is one the captains of the rebellion. And they free him ? It's not like a list has been established between the rebels and Crassus or something. If I were a roman, I would have kept Agron and would done whatever is necessary to win. Second thing: Spartacus agrees to free Crassus' son for 500 hostages. He did not even discussed the deal. 500 hostages for the son of Crassus ??? He could have ask for much more easily. Also, he accepted the deal knowing that there would be injured people who would slow him down. What about the greater good ?
Don't get me wrong here, Agron is one of my favorite characters, he is one of the good guys and I'm thrilled to see him alive.
The end of this episode was great, telling the name of all the fallen.
In history, Ganicus separates from Spartacus and dies in -71 along with Castus (I did not see Castus in this tv show: is he there ?).
The finale will surely be a bloodbath. Spartacus as he is in the show cannot and will not abandon his people: he will fight untill the end. The only way out for him is that he is severely injured and cannot fight anymore; he is saved by the roman woman who will give him a child afterwards. I think Ganicus will go to the afterlife ( :-( ) as well as Agron, Naevia, and most of the rest, some of them crucified.
I really hope that this is not correct and that Spartacus, the roman woman, Ganicus and girl friend, Agron and boyfriend will survive and live long life.
Who are the good guys in this tv show ? Spartacus of course, Agron, Varo, Ganicus and Ceasar. Crassus is also presented as a good guy but fighting for his roman empire. Tiberius had to die, he could not survive: if Kore did not kill him, Ceasar would have. What a pleasure to see him die !!!
Hopefully, there will be a serie with Ceasar and Crassus against Pompée with Ceasar being the hero.
One week to go before the end. NOOOOOOOOO ...
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Castus is the black guy that craves Nasir in the show. I don't see the show as having to follow history. If I did, I would be pretty upset. However, if it was following it a little more accurately then we'd probably be in for a treat as Crixus was killed in the 2nd year of a 3 year war. So since he just bought it now we'd probably be in for another whole Season! Best to just enjoy the way they've spun the story and of course the SPECTACLE! Woohoo!!!!!
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Interesting note you say there with Gannicus splitting up and dying in 71 BC. I did not know that.

I too hope for a Caesar spinoff, though I would hate if their take on it were to be Caesar and Crassus against Pompeii considering Caesar historically maneuvered them both into becoming his strongest allies (early in his carreer anyway). If I recall my Rome history lessons correct, they formed a triumvirate of power, where Crassus (being denied recognition for his role in defeating Spartacus) and Pompeii (being "bought" with marriage to Caesar daugther) helped Caesar to power and mvoed him into a position allowing him to attack Gaul against the will of the senate.
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Yes, but you should understand that these 500 hostages are a dead weigh against those that keep them.These are not ready to fight soldiers; but the weak: wounded men, women and children. They are a drag on resources when these are needed badly for the last battle to come. I know this seems very harsh but Spartacus should have kept them as hostages and eventually liberated them during battle.
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I was thinking the exact same about the hostages. Agron being identified as a high rank should have been kept unless they had exactly 500 hostages. Deals off, there's only 499 people. Haha. Also the fact that Kore was valued the same as Tiberius. It's like January sales after Christmas where they've 500 items of stock left and need to shift it.
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How about mentioning coolest death of episode when Spartacus put both blades through the Roman's eyes. Love that this show keeps finding interesting ways to kill off people
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Can't help but feel disappointed in Tiberius' death. I think something only on the level of decimation would have satisfied my hope for how he would go.

Don't want this show to end.
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This episode was stellar, although I do feel like Tiberius' death was no where close to as painful as I had hoped for.

When Caesar was about to hit it off with the mediocrely good looking chica, I thought he was going to have a flashback of what Tiberius did to him....but nope he enjoyed the moment to the fullest. Datta boiii!! Now only if I can put that awful memory behind me as well and start seeing Caesar as the bad ass he is and oughta be.

Spartacus' little speech in the end was nice, liked how he had teary eyes. Shows he has made peace with his destiny. I'd like to see him get done by Caesar, just because...well just because.

"From now on you will call me dominus...BIATCH"
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Actually looking at his face I thought he was struggling about those memories as she laid into her. Maybe Ceasar was trying REALLY hard to reaffirm his manhood.
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That's how you make Television!... Am gonna miss this show!
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Spartacus will always live in my heart, just like BSG does...
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true talk!
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BEST EPISODE EVER!

When I thought Pompei was here I thought Damn we're done Next week it would be two armies against half. Then Spartacus pulls one on Crassus he got less than a shadow of Crassus.

AWESOME GLADIATOR FIGHTS! when Spartacus fought I was hoping Spartacus would have gone back to the Murmillo style, Crixus' style of fighting.

I knew Naveia was still alive I didn't think Agron was alive. It lifts the heart to see them.

Tiberius is finally done.

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My brother doesn't like many shows and found thus one to be incredible. Annoying thing is he got to watch it before I did and told me who kills Tiberius.
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Dontcha hate spoilerZ?
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My brother kinda hope they should have ended in episode 9 but he hasn't seen the last one yet
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We can't quite rule out Kore's part in this yes. I'm sure the words of Nameria still ring true in her ears, and she might in the end do what she should have before (though it'll tougher with the colder 'Dominus').

Awesome gladiator scenes.
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I'm thrilled that Agron is still alive, even if a little disappointed that Naevia is. Or at least I was at first because, let's be honest, she hasn't been very popular or welcome lately. But she did redeem herself a bit in my eyes through her willingness to put her bloodthirst aside for the sake of the cause. Like I and many others have said - it's not that she should have gotten over her traumas sooner and in fact her irrationality and rage made perfect sense given all that she had been through, but it was dragging the story down. She needed to either leave, die, or change if only to not make the rebel generals look stupid for keeping her around to such detriment. They went with change, and I guess I can deal. It's not very many original characters that we get to keep so it is something to be grateful for.

I'm really curious to see where the whole Kore/Crassus thing will go with only one episode remaining and so many secrets to get out. His son raped her and drove her to leave...and she is the one who killed him. What will he do with that information? What will weigh heavier in his eyes? I'm guessing the death of his son, since he has proven before that he doesn't truly see Kore as his equal. He cared for her but he still always negated her back to slave. I think she was more beloved pet, and we all know how valued male heirs were in this time and place. So what will she suffer for her deed? Or will she somehow get the drop on Crassus too when she realizes that he wasn't on her side anymore than his son was?

Bottom line, though: I would really just like to see some semblance of a happy ending, some tiny ray of hope, in the finale. I am obviously prepared for bloodshed and horrors and Sparty's side losing, which I fully expect them to stick to, but that doesn't mean some can't make it out and be seen in a "one year later" style epilogue clip raising sheep on a farm somewhere or something. Please. Please that's all I want.
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So Caesar nailed Agron and no one made a joke about that yet?
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How about Ceasar trying to nail somebody so he would forget the nailing he got from Tiberius?
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fucking kore killing Tiberius! yes, she was raped but come on!!!!!!! how much anger does she have to have to kill him? Caesar was raped yet still kept his cool and was able to tink of a way to get back at tibs. kore is sensitive and acting like a victim, poor naevia suffered many rapes yet kore is acting like she suffered SO bad, she's too spoiled
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"Caesar was raped yet still kept his cool"

LOL. Yep, recognizing that the "Pompey" envoy is a Spartacus trap and sending the little shit to die at their hands is the model of keeping your cool.

Kore reacted to baser instincts because she is not the master manipulator that Ceasar was brought up to be. All things being equal, they both would have rushed Tiberius to shank him.
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Caesar was pissed cos Kore beat him to it after all that deviousness lol
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Dude so wrong. In a lot of ways Kore suffered worse Tiberius used to be this kid that she took care of. Besides Ceasar only stays his hand because for his own interest beacuse he needs Marcus and Naveia would have totally killed him if she didn't realize that that kind of attitude recently got a lot of their brothers dead.
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Gross comment you've got there. Rape victims don't need to be weighed out against one another for either how they suffered or reacted. Suffice to say that Kore was dehumanized and assaulted and got her revenge, in addition to offering herself up as a sacrifice to ensure no one else payed the price for her actions.
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She didn't sacrifice anything. She just offered to go back to where she wanted to be all along.
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Return to Marcus Crassus? I don't think its as simple as that she killed Tiberius she would have to be a really cold b**** to not feel guilty when she's with the Imperator. Further what vestiges of feeling is in there is few and far between now. Crassus is just overcome with grief right now but when he gets his head on straight he's gonna ask her questions. That will probably end up with her crucified.

Since next week is the last episode what I ask is what will Kore do? Will she kill Marcus at first opportunity? or will she play a roll in helping the rebels escaped after the battle.
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Am I the only one disappointed that Tiberius couldn't rape his way out of his predicament with the rebels?
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I was hoping Naviea ass-rape him with the sword he most favor.
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Also imagine the idea if he did, he would return back to Crassus full of rebel STD's.
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Personally I would have loved it if Naveia raped Tiberius with the sword he most favored.
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It's so great that they finally (kinda) introduced Pompeijus. That means that there is a chance that Crassus bites it and Pompeijus nails the bunch to the cross.
Super.
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Nottachance! Crassus is the ice cold muthafucka who's gonna nail up them rebs. Kirk Douglas learned me so.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooo...
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if they make a Caesar spinoff then Caesar, Pompey AND Crassus will be bad mofo's in it and Caesar will die in the end :D!
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While killing; if Spartacus smiles, it's bloodthirsty and psychopathic looking, Gannicus is having the time of his life and smiling with joy when being a complete BADASS, and Crixus doesn't smile because psychotic war machine/animal hybrids don't smile while fighting, they just elevate the standards of BADASSITY
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BEST EPISODE EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm gunna miss this show so much; I pray there's a spin off for Caesar; they've proven him cold, calculating, ruthless, (not really that much effected by being raped) psychopathic (slaughtering his own men with his own hand, and by proxy to eliminate Tibby without any trace that has true weight.. a brilliant set up? Yes I say.. I'm glad Kori got her revenge, but I wish she slit his throat the way the prostitutes throat was slit by Tibby... but I like symbolism...
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glad the tosser tiberius got killed off, after episode 1 you knew that he wont last this season.
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Crassus did, however, have a son named Marcus. I always thought the writers renamed him Tiberius to better distinguish him.
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Yeah, the fact that Marcus Crassus never had a son named Tiberius IRL was also a clue about his ultimate fate.
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ya, and a good lead into how Caesar got all his debts paid off and rose in rank in his early years...
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Oh, am gonna miss this show very much . This episode was fantastic. Killing the Romans in the arena , killing that little bastard , Agron coming back and the most powerful moment was the last scene !
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Gratitude Mr. Daglas, for showing this series the support and appreciation it truly deserves.
Many a mortal scoff at the seemingly never-ending display of "T&A", but your words discover true purpose: for the time being, this tv series is unparalleled.
I shall be saddened once dust has settled and bodies of cherished brothers and sisters lie motionless on the ground, yet I will also feel fortunate for having watched such a landmark series when it aired.

Just as I am anxiously awaiting the series finale next week, I also look forward to the very last words you'll write on the subject.
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Isn't it rather ironic how you mention people "scoff" at this much T&A yet this much blood and violence is perfectly acceptable? There's something twisted about seeing people without clothes on but seeing a man beheaded is quite alright and not over the top. Idiocracy?
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Personally I love the tits and the asses, and the blood too. But then again I'm not 'Merican, so what do I know?;)
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Well said, same can be said for the collective public's twisted fascination with shows that spotlight and glamorize serial killers; Dexter, The Following, The Cult, and all kinda of others in the past, but when it comes to boobies.... people get almost insecurely offended by it... They wish they looked like that, or could bang it out like that which they see on tv
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OMG!!!! I'm like so totally interested!!!!! idiot
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Great episode! Glad to see that coward fuck Tiberius go, and was glad to see Agron return in one piece. I knew Naevia wouldn't be the one to kill Tiberius, so I thought Caesar would do it on the way back, but Kore was the one who ended up doing the good deed. Points go to you Kore, you deserve them. As awesome as the gladiator fights were, my favorite scene was definitely the memorial scene, where they honored the names of the fallen. It will be hard watching next week, because we've grown so attached to these characters, and we know what is ultimately going to happen.

Spartacus, Gannicus, Agron, Naevia, Saxa, Lugo, Nasir, Laeta, Sybil, Kore and others will probably perish, but they can't all die can they? Steven DeKnight has never disappointed with finales, so give us one more that we will remember for a long time.
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Agreed re: the finales, each one has been a total gem. "Kill Them All" convinced me of the series genius, in fact: believe it or not, I'd been pretty much on the fence until then.
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I hope that in the last episode will be Braveheart moment, when in the end he sees his wife and shouts FREDOOOM.
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Braveeeeheartt!!! now that is something they need to turn into a tv series! I'd be down for that. You're welcome. I'm a genius!
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I think Mel might just be available, too...
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The fact that Agron came back alive from crucifixion is maybe a wink that others can as well, maybe Spartacus as well. I have had a nagging feeling of why Laeta was given so much airplay as her role in the grand scheme of the story seems relatively insignificant;.all these discussions with Spartacus. It dawned on me when I saw Agron return that maybe this is an alternative to spartacus' survival; to be freed by Laeta and live on at least for a while as Roman citizen until they can return to Thracia or go parts unknown. Anyway, we'll find out next week I guess.
History has made Julius Ceasar as maybe the only rival to Alexander the Great in stature in western civilization, to the point as we all know that is name has become synonymous with empire.I am more inclined to see his image as depicted here as a snobbish, nasty, vain, cruel and opportunist SOB and I applaud the authors who have had the gumption to present him as that. But a decade ago, this would have raised a vast wall of disapproval and hostility among the tenants of the historical cannon. This is to say, in reverse, that Spartacus is one of the few losers in History who has survived as a positive icon throughout the ages; to the point that even Romans sources as that of Plutarch had to recognize this greatness.
The Italian film maker Sergio Corbucci imagines a movie The Son of Spartacus in 1962, so why not hope for a spin off. Personally, I would prefer a spin off featuring Gannicus, but that's just me.
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Only somebody cold, ruthless, psychopathic, brilliant, fearless, and cunning in manipulation and duplicitous could achieve what Caesar achieved; rising up the ranks, consolidating the power with unheard of methods, probably thought foolish, now considered brilliant, becoming dictator for life!!! lol.. so I'm glad they're portraying him as you said; no true emotional attachment but flickering compassion unless it becomes an obstacle for him..
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I always thought Caesar did so well because he was literally head and shoulders taller than the rest of the Romans. And, in case you don't think this is important, check the average heights of CEOs today. Or the NBA.
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Ya, he did stand over 6 ft tall I believe, but they needed a guy who appeared to be 16 years old, which is roughly how old Caesar would of been if he had done all that the show portrayed him to do... maybe he'll get some shoe lifts for the spin off, but he was a child while Sparty was doin his thing. It was cool seeing Caesar not be the Impirator and just being a high ranked soldier, and then Crassus mentioned the first Triumverate.
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This was another fantastic episode. I am so bummed that there's only one more and then it's all over :( I don't think there will ever be another show I enjoy quite so much.
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Only a Caesar spin-off could come close... but we've been conditioned to hate Romans, that I don't know... haha, but I agree... I'm rewatching Gods of the Arena again!
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I love this show; I have since it premiered. This episode was bittersweet; the perfect prologue to the grand finale. Still hoping Spartacus makes it out alive with Laeta, they somehow locate Varro and Aurelia's son and raise him together. OK that's insane but I'd love it. I like this show so much I want a happy ending that spits on (hazy at best) history - sue me.) Very glad that Argon and Naevia made it back for the time being. Watching Argon get crucified sucked. There are going to be too many more next week.

I was hoping someone would sneak in an "Andy" in the recitation of the departed. Did "Mira" "Duro" or "Varro" get a shout out - I know I heard "Barca"? Loved it that Saxa was in the arena with Lugo, those two crazy kids are destined to be together.

Glad that Steven DeKnight and Rob Tapert are sticking with Starz. Looking forward to "Incursion" and "Vlad Dracula".

Until the end......
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"Did "Mira" "Duro" or "Varro" get a shout out"

Yes, they did. Spartacus mentioned Varro and Mira; Agron mentioned Duro.
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Much obliged.
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I also thought Agron is goner. So glad that is not the case and he is back,where he belongs! Woot.
I half expected Gannicus to say "Send me the rest of them,not just 2":D
Naevia is Naevia...I lost all respect towards her. All she cared about was Crixus. Ok,that I get,but she had no idea of Agron and if he's still alive or not. She doesn't care about other people dying,because all she saw and cared about was Crixus's death. Stupid c*nt(don't worry I can call her that,because show uses that word many times:D) you lost that battle or war. Like at least 3/4 were killed and all you see is Crixus dying!?!?! From our perspective,as viewers,we can "focus" mostly on Crixus and seeing only him dying,but she should have had bigger picture in mind. Also all her talk about Romans dying and what not,she sure gave up as soon as her sword was knocked out of her hands. If I was there,I would fight until they would have killed me or cut off my hands and so on. I didn't buy that,oh well I decided to trade you for 500 of our men. BS!!! She had no choice in front of all those people,even though you could her crowd cheering "kill him":D

Arena fights were cool. Another person I love,but never really mentioned,is Lugo:D And is he missing a tooth? I am so glad he is still around. Always afraid that he gonna end up on the wrong side of sword or spear.
Saxa is badass and any time I see her,I can hear her saying " Rhhoomans!!!":D

One thing I never get is crowd in arena. Like,they are the poor people(in this episode's case free men on run) and all,don't have food,etc. AND YET, food flies all around and in abundance!:D Like really...you gonna throw food away like that.

*Trumpets* Tiberius is dead! Yes,that mad fuck is gone. I am glad that it was Kora and not Naevia,who killed him.
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...even though you could hear* crowd cheering...

It's about damn time,you give us editor "this site".
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i want to see a son of spartacus series
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This episode is merely designed to make us happy before Spartacus finally loses to the Romans next episode. Sigh.
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Yep.. last week made us angry, this week made us joyful and emotional, but next week will rip heart from chest
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Pretty much.. it's bound to happen.. only thing that remains is how they're gonna portray it. I just hope Gannicus lives to tell the tale.. it'd be nice..
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