Spartacus: War of the Damned "Mors Indecepta" Review: Lies, Damn Lies, and Impalements

Spartacus: War of the Damned Episode 8: "Mors Indecepta"


In the end, Spartacus proved correct about Crassus’s arrogance: It did leave him vulnerable. And that arrogance hit its zenith in “Mors Indecepta,” when the aristocrat baited a trap for the rebels so he could deliver a message implicitly equating himself with a full-fledged deity. Mors, the Roman version of the Grim Reaper, may be immune to deception. But even after a string of impressive victories, Crassus has not yet become Death, destroyer of rebels.

He certainly seemed close at the start of the episode, with Spartacus and company enduring their direst straits since Vesuvius. Even an apparent error of overconfidence, establishing an aggressive forward camp position, was only a ploy to draw out one of the sneak attacks the Thracian has often favored. The nighttime raid was a terrific setpiece of elegant stealth, one fluidly staged and shot by director Jesse Warn, who used the new aesthetic possibilities offered by the blizzard-swept landscape to full advantage throughout the episode. It was also a thorough failure, yielding only a severe wound for Naevia and the aforementioned cruel taunt, carved into the carcass of a fallen comrade.

Many of the proceedings of “Mors Indecepta” were underlined by deception, but in ways that demonstrated the limits of its utility. The Roman camp is drowning in it, with every conversation couched in subtext or dramatic irony, and every key relationship either badly strained or about to be. All the carefully chosen words, the double meanings masking true intent, have exacerbated internal strife to the boiling point. Even the rejuvenated bond between father and son is built on a foundation of mendacity, one bound to crumble when sunlight hits Tiberius’s secret sins.

Kore exploited the situation, convincing Caesar to squire her to the front lines so she could take Crassus’s temperature. Was her loyal lover really going to leave her behind in Sinuessa after the war, to “advise” (oh, and be brutally assaulted by) Tiberius, ruling as his father’s proxy? Yep, though Crassus seemed to think that setting up his mistress in a love shack on the other side of the Republic was a towering romantic gesture. Was he still dubious enough about his son’s honor that she could spill the beans and earn some kind of reprieve? No way—he’s buying the Eddius Haskellus routine hook, line, and sinker.

In a bitter twist for a man whose stock in trade is deceit, laying out his plans to Kore honestly—while believing his words to be a comfort—wound up costing him dearly. With a bleak future in front of her in Roman territory, she seized her only not-terrible option while she had the chance and joined the ranks of the former slaves.

Meanwhile, in the rebel camp, shedding pretense began to uncoil some lingering tensions. Laeta couldn’t forget Spartacus’s culpability in the demolition of her world, but neither could she keep denying that he’s the only one who can offer much-needed comfort. Agron evinced some trust in Nasir at last, and heeded Nasir's advice to free Castus—a decision that saved his life in the climactic battle. Gannicus and Sybil, realizing that the show was just going to keep throwing them into one love nest after another until they bit the frigging bullet already, owned up to their mutual desire. (That one creates a whole new layer of deception, though; Saxa already had an inkling something was fishy.)

And Crixus, on edge after Naevia almost fell in battle, unloaded on Spartacus. Their conflict wasn’t so different from the one that had festered in Sinuessa, fueled by the former’s congential aversion to the latter’s “secrets and schemes.” Spartacus, too, let slip signs of his own strains, and of the common tendency among superlatively talented individuals to grow frustrated with anyone who doesn’t match that talent.

Still, the thundering brawl that resulted didn’t lead to schism but to catharsis, even helping to set Spartacus’s mind on the right path. Crixus’s preference for the direct approach may be tinged by the same death wish that animated him in the arena, but at least in this case it paid off. Where a surgical strike failed, a frontal assault succeeded—once Spartacus deduced the proper place to aim it.

Crixus’s assessment—“You have been bested by more devious mind”—was the key. Rather than continue trying to outflank Crassus’s subterfuges, the soundest strategy was to penetrate them and determine what was being concealed. When a magician is deploying the ol’ misdirection, the way to solve the trick is to look exactly where he doesn’t want you to look.


In this case, the imperator didn’t want the rebels peering too closely at that wall to their rear. Fortified by troops and guarded by an impassable trench, it was an ostentatious projection of strength. So if Crassus’s forward camp gambit was an attempt to make a point of strength look like a weakness, it stood to reason that the wall was just the opposite.

Proving the theory, though, meant leveraging the only things the rebels had in abundance: desperation and death. At first I didn’t think having a couple characters mention that over 1,000 of their number had died off-screen conveyed the weight of that loss appropriately. That changed when the plan for crossing the trench became clear. Contemplating the act of piling hundreds of frozen corpses into a bridge can’t help but make you shudder, even before the sweeping visual reveal drives home grim reality.

Morbid, yes, but effective. The rebels have gained an escape route, and, for the moment, the high ground against their heretofore unbeatable foe. Echoing their first brief encounter from afar in “Spoils of War,” Spartacus and Crassus once again met eye-to-eye for a fleeting moment before one of them had to retreat. The well-earned cocky grin the victor threw spoke volumes. Whether or not Crassus, like Mors, is undeceivable may not ultimately matter. On both the homefront and the battlefield, truth coming to light is taking a sufficient toll.



NOTAE ALIAE


– I dunno guys, I’m feeling like Saxa is due for a very Anya-esque end in the finale.

– What becomes of Kore now? Will she turn against her ex-dominus completely and pass on vital intelligence, or will she try to blend in and lay low? And if her identity does come out, will the rebels think her another of Crassus’s spies? Laeta is the only one who might have gotten a good-enough look at Kore at any point to ID her, right?

– Caesar’s not letting a little thing like a gaping stab wound stop him from enjoying wine, women, and song. And for all his setbacks, things didn’t go as badly as they could have for him, considering the episode’s airdate.

– Nice touch that Spartacus drew on his time in the Roman auxiliary to call out that the approaching centuries weren’t in combat formation.

– Crixus flies off the handle when called a chicken. Is he a distant ancestor of Marty McFly?

– Saxa told Gannicus that he’s starting to sound like Spartacus. You guys, what if the series ends with Spartacus gone, but only after he leaves Gannicus directions to his hidden Spartacuscave and Gannicus takes his place?

– “Killing Romans was how we gained your trust, was it not?”

– “Live, and help provide answer.”

– “Time conspires against will of heart. We shall break words again when battle is won, and see tears evaporate beneath warming sun of deeper intent.”

– “The he shall behold what miracles of blood a gladiator is yet capable of.”

– “Let him feel the sting of his wounds and reflect upon the mind that inflicts them.”

– “I took this city.”

– “Does no one ever sleep in this fucking house?”

– “You’ve helped move him from the boy he was to the man he is.”

Body Count: 77 on-screen, including Sybil’s unlucky co-religionists but not counting those 1,000 or so claimed by the storm, bringing us to an even 370 on the season.


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During the Crixus/Spartacus brawl, did anyone else think that Spartacus looked like a cyborg with the look on his face every time he kept getting back up to fight some more... awesome!
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I'm pretty sure the Roman soldier called Crixus a "fucking coward" and not a "chicken" that would be terrible writings.. "Hey, Crixus, you chicken!!!" But it was awesome when he SNAPPED at the sound of coward, and even more awesome when he picked one of the dudes up by the throat so he could slash his torso better.. ha! Awesome episode.. hope it leads to a Caesar spin off....
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Am I evil If I had wanted to just leave Crixus and Naevia and a few hundred men to stand at the wall as a rear guard. With proper strategy you can inflict heavy casualties on the Romans from a very defensible position like that if Crassus marched in over confident.
1. Archers atop the wall with a dozen gladiators with pitch
2. Warriors on two sides of the gate wearing roman uniforms lying in wait.

Let a few columns march in and spring the trap. Flank the incomming Romans while throwing pitch and fire upon the bridge and a volley of arrows to break ranks. You can probably hold them three hundred style

Best case scenario you can get a few centuries may be even Crasus himself if he is over confident. Mixed feelings but in most outcomes Crixus and Navea and all who stand will be killed
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I can't wait the get the dvd to see the 'behind the scenes' footage on this episode - that shot of the bodies in the trench was amazing.
I am kinda pissed off the Ganicus has fallen for the 'sweet good girl' over the 'feisty bad girl' It just seems like such a cliche.
It was good to see Spartacus bounce back. I loved that shot of him smirking at Crassus from on top of the wall.
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In the prequel series: Gods of the Arena, Gannicus falls in love with Oenomaus' wife. She was also the 'sweet good girl". So to me it's not a cliche, but very logical for his character..
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I know but to me, she felt a lot feistier than Sybil. Sybil just seems so passive and insiped. She seems to spend her time waiting to be rescued, wheras Oenomaus' wife came across as the type of woman who would fight if she had to.
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Another great episode. It is starting to become clear how the split into two rebel groups under Spartacus and Crixus respectively will come to happen.

I don't think Kore is acting as a spy. My guess for her fate is that she survives the battles and is among the final 6,000 captured rebels, who are crucified along the highway to Rome (Crasus having no option but to follow through with it, leaving him with the pain Tiberius felt for being forced to kill his friend).

You say "what if Gannicaus takes on the personna of Spartacus". I say what if he escapes the last battle, moves to Gaul and takes back his one true name of Vercingetorix only to once more face Caesar?

Love the Marty McFly and Anya references.
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They mentioned several times on the show that Gannicus is a Celt. Crixus is a Gaul
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Hmm really feel like i missed the point with Kore. I thought she took the dagger and secreted herself among the rebels with an intent to kill Spartacus. I can see how it can work the other way too. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.

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At first I thought she was either going to kill herself or Tiberius.
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I actually thought she was going to kill Crassus! In a later scene, a general walked into Crassus's tent and called him "Imperator" for like 3 times. At heightened suspense, I thought him dead, then I figured, that can't happen or the rest of the movie will be pointless. I was pissed when Imperator sighed and turned on the bed. Die you arrogant moneybag!
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This episode is awesome !!!!
(1 to 1 fight , Crassus being a smartass , Spartacuss being more smartass and kore escape)
but clearly these sex scenes , half naked stupid girls characters in a fuckin freezing weather
didn't make any sense at all !
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How did the rebels have time to bring tents, tent poles, firewood, extra clothes, etc. when they escaped from the city? Had they already left when the gate was crashed?
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Spartacus was planning an attack on Crassus from two fronts the grain holdings at Sicilia and Crassus' rear units by crossing the ridge.

Spartacus and his men to attack Crassus grain holdings in Sicillia to weaken the supply lines but to break off when Crassus sent troops to defend it and meet Crixus on the otherside and finish that force.

If you watch episode 5, I think, you'll see that Gannicus' was packing wine before they were betrayed by Heracleo.
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Excellent episode. That's all I have to say.
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the son is going to be brutally murdered!
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I think that Crassus cannot kill his son or have a Roman do it. But he might send his son to sure death fighting Spartacus for disguised honor.
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can't wait
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May he be parted from his c*** and crucified as his just reward.
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This episode really highlighted what I miss from the first season, (I'll include the prequel season as well, though to a lesser degree) 1 on 1 fighting. Seeing Spartacus and crew slice through dozens of enemies just hasn't been as entertaining as the sword fights we had with Crixus against Spartacus, Spartacus vs Varro, Crixus & Spartacus against the Shadow of Death, etc. Seeing Crixus and Spartacus fight one another brought these back, it's just a shame it was cut off so quickly.
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I loved them, but I haven't missed them. We also did see Crassus fight his slave 1 on 1 in the beginning of the season and Caesar fought Donar 1 on 1. However, none of those fights had the grandeur of the 1 on 1 fights from early seasons. I have been able to enjoy the group fights, because I find the drama, intensity, and precariousness of the group battles great.
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We will see Roman blood on fucking snow! or our own in glorious death!
I keep wondering what a glorious death is! Would it not be more glorious to fight and yet live?
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LOVED: Kore joining the rebels. This is a woman who seemed characterized almost solely by her gentleness, obedience, motherliness, and sense of loyalty to her "masters". She was living a (relatively) good life up until recently by being those things and has now fully realized how powerless it made her. She's taken her life into her own hands and decided to risk all rather than be subjected to that powerlessness any longer. Kore gave Crassus the chance, several times now actually, to see into how wounded she was and take her words and feelings into consideration but he passed it up and just fucked her instead. That made the decision pretty clear, I think.

HATED: Sybil being all damsel-y yet again and Gannicus rescuing her yet again. "I just thought I'd cut myself and freeze out in the blizzard to pray for our cause!" Christ. I swear, she's the Bella Swan of Spartacus. The writers suck with her characterization. What did they all draw on the whiteboard under her name? "Sybil: Pretty, young, sweet, pure, pious, weak"? Is her entire point that she saves the "bad boy" with her angelic lovin'? Lame. She can have Gannicus. Saxa deserves better than being treated like she's only good enough to fuck because she's just as "corrupt" as Gannicus is starting to whine that he is ("stay away from men like me").
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AMEN to that!!! I simply don't understand where did this shit with Sybil came from and what is it doing in a show like this. I do admit,Gannicus is my favorite character and I love Saxa,a strong,capable,sexy,independent woman,definitely thought they were great together...and than this. Just wow..no words,absolutely the weakest link in the show. Not just Sybil,but that whole storyline,which unfortunately doesn't seem it's going away. .
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While I agree with you generally I don't think Crassus realized what Kore was hinting at men can be pretty dense, at least I know I am. Though if Crassus understood what Kore was saying well we don't really know how he'll react. I think Ceasar knows what Kore was planning to say and thats why he brought her there.

Kore wasn't forced to Crassus bed I think it was her way of saying goodbye.
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No, I don't think she was "forced" to either (although it would be rape by modern standards considering that she is a slave with no free will), it's just that it seems to say a lot about their "relationship" that instead of hearing her out and acknowledging her obvious tenseness he just took her to bed. That scene, to me, showed her realizing that there really wasn't what she thought there was between them and that his choice was his son over her, despite that he felt desire for her. So yes, I think she was saying goodbye, and that's why.
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She also felt the personal impact of what I think she must've known all along. Because they were all people of their times. And that is her true position as a slave first and as a woman as well. Which basically meant complete powerlessness.And the fact that whatever she did,even if she directly told she was raped,she wasn't going to better her position. Even if she caused the ultimate fall out between the father and the son.
So joining the rebels,whatever the motives,objectively was her best option.
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What the hell is up with Kore? If her sole purpose is to join the slave camp - then she was just wasting everybody's time.

CAESAR!!!!!! Love him. So much fun! He's the only one who actually looks like he's having some serious fun at the war. He's so much fun to watch - and people are still hating on him but I just love him more and more. Love the character, where you just see these little glimmers of him becoming THE Caesar. I cannot get how people don't like him. What's not to like? Is it the comparison to Ciaran Hinds? I always thought Ciaran's Julius was just dull. When he got shanked, it was just... bleh. Rome was Anthony's show, not Caesar's.

And BTW, BANSHEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!! Awesome shoot-out or what? Not better than Crixus' ape-shit snow fight though. Spartacus was just beautiful with all that snow.
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I think the shootout in Banshee was a fantastic action scene. That scene with Crixus was nothing special. I was like "oh, only seven people against Crixus, too bad for them" and then chop chop chop, they were all dead.

I don't agree about Kore. It's not a waste of time to show how a character in an interesting situation finds the motivation to make a very dangerous decision. I just hope that she's going to be useful in some way, e.g. by providing (correct) intelligence to Spartacus about Crassus.
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I actually thought that Crixus was just going to keep going and run headfirst into all the Romans and then die. The shootout in Banshee needed somebody (Ana) to die, but yes, it was awesome.

Kore?! I'd be interested if this wasn't the final season. Seeing as it's the final season I want everything to be dynamic and awesome. Cowardly escape into the night doesn't cut it, unless she's going to kill Spartacus or somebody (which I supremely doubt). I think it's safe to assume that she actually loves Crassus; all the time they'd invested in this, I thought we were going to get some kind of explosive demonstration of this love. Instead, she joins slave camp and that's that? Selling out Crassus by providing information would be even worse. Does she actually think that the slaves will defeat Crassus? She knows the man and his do or die character. She has to be fairly certain that the Romans are going to win - why defect to the losing side? Yes, she's running from rape at the hands of Tiberius, but she has to know that the frequency of rape would only be likely to increase by joining a rebel camp. Colour me disappointed.
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I don't think Kore planned to join the rebels but after what Crassus said she felt she had no choice.
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WTF: 2 of the best shows on tv now are on Starz and Cinemax (spartacus & banshee).

WTF: I can't believe Cinemax has stronger (i.e., more badass) female characters. Saxa is great but what's up with the rest of them.... sure there are cultural/historical reasons behind the characterizations but this is fiction so if Spartacus' jaw wasn't broken then why can't there be more females like Saxa (or any of the women on Banshee) on this show? I'm intentionally ignoring crazy chick Naevia

Regardless, I still enjoyed the episode but gritted my teeth during some of the scenes (Kore just spit it out...so insensitive of me but I think Kore should of castrated Tiberius and then said he was playing with himself and accidentally died). A strong (smart and badass) female would of set up Tiberius for death and destruction (lol) if she couldn't directly kill him or have him whacked.

Gannicus...dude, there is a hot badass blond chick so why are you playing with the meek religious chick....put down the bong Gannicus. I think Gannicus and Caesar were in the same 80s hair/metal band.

I like the idea of Gannicus becoming Spartacus....but I want them both to live.

HaHa...smartacus out-thunk crassus;-)

Crixis and his insane lover are annoying... he is such a "jock"

Great line--> "“Does no one ever sleep in this fucking house?”

Thanks Andy, now I have 1 good and 1 bad song stuck in my head (good: the love shack; bad: we built this city--don't ask but I took this city turned into we built this city)--I blame Gannicus for the 80s songs...he reminds me of someone but I can't think who)

Spartacus and Banshee bring out my inner sociopath

Despite my negative comments, I love the show Spartacus and again, another excellent review--Thanks!
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There were a lot of strong women in the show unfortunately a lot of them were killed off or didn't get enough screen time.
1. Sura
2. Mira
3. Lucretia (I know she didn't do a lot of fighting but man she scares me Lucy Lawless is awesome)

Why is everyone bringing up Banshee? In some ways, I am more disturbed by Banshee than Spartacus. Hood breaks bones with a sickening crack that well kinda unsettles me.
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So you agree there are no strong female characters on the show NOW other then Saxa.

Banshee is brought up because it is a badass show like Spartacus is badass. I specifically brought it up here as an example of a show with numerous strong/badass female characters (actually all of the females on Banshee who are actual characters [not the generic no-name Amish background people] badass. All the main female characters on Banshee are the complete opposite of meek boring Sybil.

The characters you list aren't on the show anymore. Don't get me wrong, I still love the show but wish it had stronger female characters. Saxa is great but she is a secondary character--I don't think we know her backstory--I assume she was a slave who had been a captured Germanic warrior.....I maybe wrong but I don't really know her character but I like what I have seen so far
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In season 2 Saxa was onboard the ship with fresh germanic slaves Agron liberated in order to get more of his own people into the rebel group than Crixus' gauls. Other than that we don't know much about her story. Too bad for she could be an awesome character
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I believe this is to be the las season of Spartacus, so if the producers/writers are smart they start a spin-off about Caesar. They could start with his story right after Spartacus' ends as we all know he's not going to die any time soon.

As for this episode..Spartacus must have an amazing bone structure. Normally a skull would crack wide open when hit by a cup filled with very icy water. Laeta is obviously going for Spartacus, she was once a woman married to power, so it's only natural for her to go for a position like that again.
I'm also very curious what is going to happen to Kore. Up to now she has been sort of important to the story with advising her dominus. Will she indeed try to be that to Spartacus, will she get killed when Laeta recognizes her or will she just become forgotten.
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Love the "Anya-esque" death terminology regarding the predicted fate of the beautiful German. That is what I see as well and I don't like it. Greatest girlfriend in this show's history bar none. I think I'd follow Gannicus around after this more so than what I've read regarding the likely next chapter of Roman history on Starz, it is more likely to follow the Romans from this chapter. Not really giving a damn about Caesar - might have something to do with the rare case of miscasting. Next episode: Laeta finally getting down with Spartacus - Mira and Sura doing backflips in their respective afterlives.
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I loved this episode, I was glad they finally got back to the rebel side of things.
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I'm now confident Gannicus will have a happy ending with Sybil. It looks like the next episode will finally bring about the splitting of Spartacus and Crixus. We only get 3 more episodes until the end of an awesome show. It's going to be sad seeing a lot of awesome characters dying in the next few episodes.
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Great episode,great review. I could just stop watching the series right here,because I know it'll break my heart.
And I know I've probably fallen victim to deceptions and deceits myself because I now see conspiracies everywhere. Am I really the only one who thinks there's something fishy about the way Kore joined the rebels after "breaking words" with Caesar in offscreenville?
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I thought about it for a while too. In the beginning of the season, I considered the possibility that her significance to the season was that she would infiltrate the rebels as a spy. I thought that the writers might prefer to have Spartacus lose the war due to this sort of thing than due to simply being outnumbered in the final fight. But I think the fact that Crassus looked genuinely surprised when no one was looking at him should be proof that he didn't send her. So unless this is part of a plan she made with Ceasar, she has just escaped, after finding that there's no future for her at Crassus's side.

However, why did the writers have her talk to Ceasar at all, if they weren't going somewhere with that? Could it be a misdirection to make us *think* that she might be a spy? Well, I'm confused, so whatever they're doing, it's working.
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Yeah,exactly..that was my point. I didn't think her joining the rebel camp had anything to do with Crassus,but with Ceasar,start of his own scheming he later becomes so famous for. Remember that when he asked her what exactly would she do,she said she's had a plan for a while now. One that in this case happens to resolve both of their problems. And then as she goes to explain,as she gets Caesar's attention,the scene cuts. That's something I'm positive is there for a reason. Altho,yes..I realize that it's probably a misdirection.
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After seeing Kore look at Spartacus I had s split second idea of that but I really hope Kore is not a spy They already did it with Ceasar it will be like rehashing an old scheme. As for Kore's talk. I think Kore told or gave Ceasar an idea of what Tiberius was doing to her and promised to inform Crasus of that fact to put Tiberius into shaky ground. Look at the way Ceasar was talking to Tiberius like he had Tiberius (but maybe the writers wanted us to think that.)

AFter realizing she couldn't break the bond between father and son she just ran
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Yes that's probably the case. What convinces me personally that there actually isn't some deal between her and Caesar that would go beyond what you described,is Caesar's own surprise by the fact that she joined Spartacus. Unless he was faking it. However at the very least that thing is a red hering.
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I agree, and on second thought, her conversation with Caesar makes sense even if she's not a spy. The only way for her to escape and join the rebels was to get to the camp first. The only way to get to the camp was to convince Caesar that she was going to tell Crassus that Tiberius had raped her.

Because of this, I'm now back to thinking that it's very likely that Kore is *not* a spy. I also *want* her to not be a spy. I think it would kind of suck if she is.
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Not our favourite. This feels like a lot of water treading and it's hardly epic enough. We've been forecasting many of these events for weeks: Sybil and Gannicus hooking up, Saxa finding out, Crixus and Sparty fighting and the inevitable Laeta and Spartacus hook-up.

Interested to see what happens with Kore and how the show moves on now that they're out of Sinuessa and the ridge, but with only three eps left, this feels like a letdown

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This episode put things into their right perspective and for that it was great to experience it. Since the uprising, and the struggle for freedom, we might have forgotten that Crixus is a gladiator first and anything else second and Spartacus never accepted that role for himself. The leadership quality in Spartacus was that intrinsically he is a farmer who became a soldier; a husband who has lost his beloved wife; in short a man of his times who fought to regain and remain what he was. Crixus revels in the gladiator ethic with its hero worship and the struggle of life against death, a perfect Freudian subject. Crixus does not care for freedom as the others, he cares for the fight. He followed Spartacus as a loyal general because Spartacus was a brother-in-arms who fought his enemies the Romans. Between both men is Gannicus, a legendary gladiator who gained his freedom; who understands the gladiator ethic but rejected it and who understands the normality Spartacus seeks and rejected that as well.
If one pays clear attention, we notice that this is Gannicus' story and lesser that of Spartacus or anyone else. He is the reluctant general who throughout the series has gained the genuine spirituality of Freedom, the man who is more than anyone else humane and human. As others have contended, Gannicus could replace Spartacus as a Jesus figure in crucifixion and thus create a myth that is similar to the Christian myth. It might not be historically probable but it is one that can be a fitting end to the series and this story.
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Perfect. Comment. My thought's exactly. It may not have been the plan from the start,but due to unfortunate events we all know about it really seems to be the case. Regarding Gannicus as the main character.And I've strongly felt so ever since Gods Of The Arena. Now I don't think he'll replace Spartacus,but I'm sure he'll survive.
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Perhaps as history holds spartacus may fall but his name is long remembered revered in the whispering of the slaves and a demon in human form long after his death that the whole of Rome trembles at the whisper of his name in a new champion such as Gannicus.

Sorry couldn't help myself.

What I mean to say is that may be Spartacus dies but the legend will live on. Attacks against Romans continue under a different Spartacus small raids on slave traders led by a new Spartacus (Gannicus taking the name of Spartacus Spartanicus) to keep the Romans affraid.
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It would SUCK ASS if Spartacus falls to sword before the series ends, but maybe that's why he's been prepping Gannicus for this entire time.
By now, "Spartacus" is more a symbol than a person. A name that puts fear in the heart of romans and hope in the minds of slaves.
So it would make for a beautifully tragic finale, having Gannicus become Spartacus.
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"Saxa told Gannicus that he’s starting to sound like Spartacus. You guys, what if the series ends with Spartacus gone, but only after he leaves Gannicus directions to his hidden Spartacuscave and Gannicus takes his place?" - Absolutely hilarious.

I have a feeling Kore will be a large part of the undoing for Spartacus' troops. Even though this is the only non-horrible option left to her, she truly loves Crassus, and in the end I think she will do everything she can to protect him - and find herself back firmly at his side instead of babysitting his horror of a son.
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Nice shout-out to Oppenheimer!
At least in this episode I knew everyone was safe from dying:D Great episode and great location for episode.
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9 years, 2 months, 4 days and Anya's death still hurts :'(
Could have gone without that reference
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I found this episode to be extremely disappointing. I've come to expect great writing and logic and this fell short. A few examples:

They are desperately struggling against harsh winter weather, yet the rebels don't seem to need any additional clothing. Crixus for example is still running around without a shirt.

Naevia gets a nasty leg wound yet after getting a bit of rest and is up and walking normally.

Crixus is ready to take whoever is willing to come w him and make an attack, without care for the fact that they will be vastly outnumbered. He is so set on it he attacks Spartacus. Then after the storm Spartacus come to him to talk about attack and suddenly Crixus is against it because they would be outnumbered. Yes, they lost 1000 people. But many of those surely were civilians types who don't fight anyway and just the day before he was willing to attack w whatever number is willing to join him.

Gannicus and Sybil are stuck in the deadly weather, w only an overturned wagon for protection. So what's the next move? Get naked! Huh?

Suddenly Crassus had decided Tiberius has become a man. But what has he done to prove it since his exile from the ranks? His only action has been throwing Caesar a party after being ordered to. How does this give Crassus the sudden confidences in his manhood to give him command over Caesar? Zero logic there.

Kore had plenty of opportunity to tell Crassus that Tiberius raped her, yet she acts like she needs an hour alone to do it. It's real easy, when Crassus is saying they'll talk another time u just blurt out "he raped me!" She obviously didn't mind breaking major protocol by having Caesar bring her in later, why be scared to just blurt it out earlier?

Then Kore manages to sneak out and cross the no-man's land between the two camps without anyone noticing.

The pile of dead bodies seemingly was piled up in a matter of a few hours. Really?? They collected and piled up all those bodies that quickly?? Come on now.

Like I said, I've come to expect more from this show. Typically everything makes sense (once u get past slave girl Naevia suddenly being a super warrior and Crixus making most of her decisions based solely on her whims). I'm really hoping they just felt they had to do these things to get the final act of the story.
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Kore wanted to tell him about the rape, but was afraid that it would only make things worse for her. So she cautiously probed Crassus to get an idea about how he would react. When he said that he would forgive his son for anything, she knew that it was game over. She handled that very well in my opinion.

As far as I could tell, Gannicus and Sybil only uncovered parts of their body that they were rubbing against each other anyway. This doesn't seem like something that would make them cold faster.

I don't agree with your calculation. They had thousands of people who were still alive. What they had to do was spread the word about what they were going to do. Then they could have one or two people carrying or dragging each corpse to the edge, all at the same time, and throw them in with only seconds between each.

So I don't really agree with those things. I do however agree about the clothes, and Naevia's leg of course.
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Stopeer- Kore was trying to tell him about the rape, that was the whole point of having Caesar sneak her in. Once she found out she was being left w Tiberius it was obvious she decided to had to tell him. Previously she was trying not to, they made it clear that was her intention this episode.

Surely sex wouldnt protect u from weather like that. People were freezing solid in place.

If it took 5 mins to find and stack each of even 500 bodies, that would take 41hrs.

Crassus specifically said Tiberius has become a man. Following one order doesn't make him a man.

Yutg- When they weren't fighting Crixus is walking around w no shirt. Being a former slave does not stop flesh from freezing.

Re Crassus, like I said he specifically said Tiberius has become a man now. What made it so? And yes, his father loves him. His father also has been extremely smart through this whole season, suddenly he's blinded by love of his son?

Kore had plenty of time to say it, and clearly had decided to, before Crassus made the comment about nothing stopping his love for his son.

I love this show, but the writers fell short this week.
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"Crassus specifically said Tiberius has become a man. Following one order doesn't make him a man."

I disagree because...

1. He excepted his harsh punishment from his father
2. The punishment could have resulted in his death
3. He was brave enough to take his punishment
4. He ultimately had to kill prolly the only person who truly cared for him (his best friend)
5. His friend also saved his life in that ambush Tiberius commanded
6. Stayed w/ his soldiers while they were in the dumps
7. Hosted party in Caesar's name (even tried to get him killed lol)

In my opinion he is a little crybaby!!!! His father didn't create a "man," instead he created a raging lunatic.
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Well Crasus thought he was just going to march in and slaughter all the slaves after they were weaken by hunger illness and the elements how could Tiberius mess up that assignment and like I said when senate awards Crasus about his great service they are going to ask so where were you Tiberius when your army was slaughtering the rebels?

They couldn't say Oh I Tiberius heir to the house of Crasus stood with the slaves/whores/disgraced men too cowardly to stand their ground. People are already talking about the disaster Tiberius' first engagement was with the rebels. It would be political disaster for the house of Crasus after Marcus Crassus was dead.

Think of it the same way as how the Romans of Capua talk about Titus and Quintus Batiatus were talked about. Titus was respected and revered by the people of Capua and even by most of the Gladiators in the ludus while Quintus was treated like shit throughout Blood and Sand and Gods of the Arena
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The clothing thing was weird, I agree.

So was Naevia's fast recovery.

Crixus wanted to attack the armies in front of him, not storming a wall. Two entirely different things.

Having sex makes your blood boil :) And in moments of passion, nothing else maters. You've surely experienced it... if not, you will.

Tiberius followed orders, that's all Crassus wanted from him. And not an easy orders, mind you.

Kore didn't wanted to tell Crassus about the rape thing. She loves him, serving such a news to him would surely break his heart. She was desperately trying to avoid that.

There was a storm that night, remember? Not so difficult for a single person to sneak out of the camp, when you have near zero visibility.

A thousand men, carrying one corpse each, and you have the pile in a matter of hours.
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All great points.Meant to respond to critics,but after reading your comment,no need. And as for the corpses,Spartacus by this point had tens of thousands of people at his side. There's absolutely no question whether they could've stacked those corpses in a matter of hours. Even if it took three of them to carry one. The only absurd thing would've been if they couldn't do it.
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opps, meant to say Crixus making most of HIS decisions based on her whims... obviously.
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What ceases mind that you believe Kore spirited away with the rebels does she not stand better chance to with blood upon the snow at the hands of Tiberius?

Ok I saw the picture I didn't see it when I watched the episode and I had that in my head so I just wanted to say it.

Questions and admiration fill mind of great deeds done this day and deeds that must be done before final end of this storied telling of the War of Spartacus

1. What honeyed words spilled from Kore lips that move Ceasar's hand? I do not believe she betrayed the man she loves of her own accord the fates moved her to path told of by the words broken by Crassus and deeds done by Tiberius and Future plans in Sinuesa. An unfortunate choice but no other path lay open to move without breaking the heart of Crassus.

The wrath of Marcus Crasus will be great for Kore perceived betrayal. when he spoke words of claiming what was his I do not beleived he spoke of the wall or its garrison. He will double his efforts to put this to an end

MY heart is filled with sorrow for Marcus Crassus that those who remain around him stand only for the size of his purse. Words yet remain between Crasus and Kore my hope to break them and come to terms before the end.

2. Tiberius will meet his just reward upon a day though mystery remains why Ceasar has not move to be the deliverer of Tiberius' reward perhaps Ceasar Like Kore fears that wrath of the house of Crassus or perhaps the loss of Crassus' patronage in coming days in his bid for political office.

Ceasar must be displeased of Kore betrayal by his words with Tiberius I judged that he expected a different outcome from the meeting between Kore and Crasus.

3.At last the gods answer prayer delivering Spartacus and his host away from schemes of Marcus Crassus. While the blood and gore of the honored dead was a sight unpleasing to the eyes their fallen bodies forged path for future victories yet to be had.

4. Crixus remains but an animal prone to falling for tricks and taunting by a cunning opponent. his blood will surely spill upon the sand if he remains as such.

5. Tender moments shared between Laeta and Spartacus warms the heart despite the bitter cold.

Sybil may meet her end at the hands of the German witch for her time stolen with Gannicus.

Though heart fills to bursting of this joyous events this day fear lingers of the impending end of this telling. What glorious victories are yet to be claimed we must but wait and see.

Apologies if my words are misunderstood. I do not know what madness came over me I just started with that comment about Kore and then I got here. I just like the way these characters talk.
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When the roman told them to come and fight as they fled with a wounded Naivia I instantly heard Hagrid's voice in my head saying "I shouldn't have said that". Crixus quickly made him regret his words.
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awesome well said.bt i still dont know what the ending might seem
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Great episode, entertaining review as usual. Love the Ides of March note as well. The story is really moving at this point, but I'm doubtful it'll end quite like history suggests. Kore among the rebels could be interesting, but I really don't think she has much to contribute. Then again, this is Spartacus and I may be surprised. As for Saxa, really feel bad for her at this point. Not a tremendous fan of Sybil, but maybe she reminds Gannicus of Mellita.
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