Supernatural S09E19: "Alex Annie Alexis Ann"
Wow, so, that was like, really bad.
I mean, at this point, Supernatural is typically balls-to-the-wall invested in the main story of the season, and while there were hints at Dean's Mark of Cain-inspired depravity this week, Dean brutally and irrationally slaying monsters isn't exactly unusual behavior. Jody Mills returned, and I love me some Kim Rhodes, I really do, but a rando monster-of-the-week episode—and a boring one at that—was just infuriating. Why are you wasting my time, Supernatural? All I ever want to do is love you!
I don't even know what to say, you guys. This episode just didn't matter. It's as though the show itself expended so much energy in last week's crazy-pants meta extravaganza that this week was designated for resting—and maybe next week too, based on the "meh" promo, which is alarming since it's the highly anticipated backdoor pilot for Supernatural: Bloodlines. I JUST WANT GADREEL AND ABADDON AND CASTIEL AND BOOGERTRON AND CROWLEY AND WHY ARE WE MESSING AROUND WITH THIS BASIC BULLSHIT RIGHT NOW WHY???
Here are the good that happened this week:
1. Jody Mills lives to fight another day. Given Supernatural's track record for killing off side characters like it's no big thing (and on Supernatural, it really is no big thing considering how many resurrection options the writers have at their disposal), every time Jody appears I hold my breath and turn blue and pass out for, like, an entire commercial break because I'm just so nervous and let's face it, those resurrection options aren't used very often when we're talking about female side characters.
2. There was at least a token acknowledgement of Dean's whatever at the Mark of Cain's influence. He's always been a little more bloodthirsty when it comes to vampire slaying than Sam, and I'm pretty sure he would have killed Vampire Henchman #2 with or without the mark, but he probably wouldn't have done it without Sam knowing, and he certainly wouldn't have been all sadistic and "LOOK AT ME, BITCH" with Vampire Henchman #3 at the end there. Maybe. IDK. Dean has issues.
Everything else:
LIKE WHAT THE F*CK WITH SAM AND DEAN BUT MOSTLY SAM BEING ALL "OH, YEAH, THAT VAMPIRE HOSTAGE CHICK TOTALLY SHOULD DIE EVEN THOUGH SHE'S HUMAN AND WAS PROBABLY BRAINWASHED FOR YEARS AND CAN'T HELP HERSELF."
I kind of expect that attitude from Dean. That's not a dis on Dean, but just, historically, Dean has had a harder time seeing the gray areas in hunting. He's come a long way in nine seasons, but his first instinct is still "kill kill kill," especially when his target has a history of killing humans itself.
I don't tend to expect that from Sam, though. Sam's history of being manipulated, brainwashed, possessed, and otherwise controlled through various intentional and unintentional means has historically made him a little more receptive to the nuances that come with human (and inhuman) interactions. For Sam to just jump on Dean's bandwagon, for no apparent reason—and even after Supernatural took detailed steps to make it clear that Annie hasn't been socialized outside of her nest, probably suffers any number of mental issues after spending so much time in captivity, and yet despite this, realized enough on her own to acknowledge that her home situation was bad and she needed to get out—was just very WTF.
Then there's the fact that this episode was such an energy-suck following last week's so-relevant-it-hurts addition to the serialized aspect of Season Fine.
At least the boys were pretty?
I don't know. I'm crossing all appendages that next week's not-a-pilot pilot doesn't put me to sleep as fast as this week's snoozer did.
– You know, I think I've said everything I have to say about this episode. NEXT PLZ!
What'd you think of "Alex Annie Alexis Ann"?
Also, I really don't care for vampires in the Supernatural mythology. They're not scary, and they're not all evil. But my only real problem with the episode is that it has nothing to do with all the crazy brewing drama of the season, and I have no idea why, because it seems like we've got tons of ground to cover.
But, if this had been an episode somewhere much earlier in the season, perhaps, I wouldn't really have any complaints. Sheriff Mills and the actress who plays her are wonderful, and I actually totally felt for Alex/Anne by the end. I ended up emotionally drawn in to the whole thing, so good job to both actresses. But seriously. How is it possible that the writers didn't have anything more relevant to cover?
Don't reapers only show up when someone is near death? Tessa is in the next episode(not the one tonight, the next after.) Doesn't that mean...?
I hear your frustration, but as far as ratings go I'm guessing noisy, angry viewers are better than no viewers at all (or fewer of them). I think the vast majority of SPN's viewers still love and support the show and we're just hearing from an angry minority. I've visited other message boards that are a LOT more positive and supportive of the show and where it's trying to go. As strongly as I disagree with the negative comments on this board, everyone is still entitled to voice his opinion so this has to be ok. Hang in there, friend :)
MOTW was interesting because of the teen angle and of course Jody.
As far as MOC goes, I for one want the progress towards Dark Dean to be gradual, one step at a time. Thats is exactly what this episode did - brought us one step closer towards DD.(Look at me , bitch!) Dean is becoming a sadist! Why should we see DD only when the main arc of the season is there? Why not in different situations?
And I loved it when Dean told Sam - I know you wouldn't do the same for me -(I don't remember the exact words). Dean is going to make Sam eat his words! Made me happy. Sam's words from Purge and the other episodes around it were too cruel. Still hurt. And this is after he called Sam - Sammy LOL!
All in all, a good episode.
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People don't "hate Supernatural" - they dislike where this season (isn't) going. When episodes 19 and 20 are generic filler episodes, there's something terribly, terribly wrong with the pacing of the season. That's a simple fact. Are they going to resolve Abaddon, the Mark of Cain, and Metatron all in three rushed episodes, or are they going to carry it all over into the next season with no resolution? Neither sound very appealing.
I wouldn't mind the filler episodes if they were creative, scary and mysterious like the old days. Now it's all the same.
&aspect; of it left since the angel/demon plot had been drawn out.
Finally someone else who sounds like they're as sick of angels and demons as I am. :-)
&I; was sorely disappointed on how they ended up making the slender man
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The ruined Slender Man AND my beloved Ghost Facers all in one episode. :-(
I miss the days when the challenge was in figuring out what the monster even was and then how to kill it. The episode where they thought the father in a haunted painting was murdering people but it turned out to be the little girl was one of my favorite cases ever... twists and very scary. When's the last time we've had something like that? Or an interesting, powerful new creature like a djinn or a trickster? Or cool ideas like the Winchesters being wanted for murder?
This episode was decent, not thrilling, but okay. I did like the new girl and had some crazy thoughts about her and Jody being hunters together some day. I too was very pleased not to see Jody killed off - I always worry about her!
Did anyone else think that Dean was really "talking" to Abaddon when he said, "Look at me, bitch!"?
And I also loved that tiny moment at the beginning when Sam and Dean were joking about Jody being all grown up. I MISS their joking around so much, especially Dean's. I know it's his character arc and all, but still.... please let them be in a better place next season!
The only thing worse that cramming all that in would be if they carried a lot of that over to season 10 and didn't give us any resolution this season, which is my suspicion unfortunately.
I found that this episode reminded me of the old Supernatural before the whole apocalypse storyline. That being said, the apocalypse storyline was so awesome that the show has not been able to top it and has declined since Season 6. However, I still believe it is still an awesome show and remains to be my favourite to watch. I look forward to each new episode. However, I think the tone of the show has changed. I miss the old Dean who would make every moment amusing even at the most inconvenient times. It just seems to be a bit too serious nowadays.
I believe whoever thought of the spin off of Bloodlines, expects to take the fans of SPN and have us/fans to tune in and say it's ok to have this spin off.
Bloodlines, I believe, should have been an new series on it's own. Not an extension of SPN. ( This way you never known, Bloodlines may be a great new show on its own/ or maybe a failure ),
SPN is a show that needs no spin off. We don't need copy cats of Sam and Dean. Sam and Dean are irreplaceable !
I maybe too harsh but I can't stand the thought of replacing a new Sam and Dean. I maybe totally wrong but I think this is what Bloodlines is trying to do.
Now I am going to duck. I am expecting eggs to be thrown at me for saying all I have said in this comment.
Why are we all willing to watch this episode ? Lets not tune in on SPN next week. ( As difficult as this maybe for all of us ).
We were just telling you, in our own opinions, why we're going to watch. I'm sorry if I sounded harsh in mine. I was just stating my opinion as well.
But I'm willing to give new characters a shot and I wish more people are open to the idea of new characters appearing whether it's male or female, whether it's in SPN or a spinoff.
Everyone should be allowed to have an opinion and you shouldn’t be afraid to voice yours. However, I disagree with you and with most of the negative comments flying around this board recently.
Boycotting Supernatural could have larger consequences than just hurting the spinoff. In fact, it may not even hurt the spinoff at all, because the advertising is reaching an audience beyond Supernatural’s audience, so there are probably people who will tune in without knowing anything about Supernatural. But what if a boycott creates a ripple effect that actually harms THIS show? I guess those folks who have been howling that the show should have ended after season 5 will finally be happy, but there are plenty of us who have enjoyed seasons 6 – 9 and want the show to continue a little longer.
I love this show and will continue to watch every episode until it is done. I’m not 100% clear on why the writers and producers are doing what they’re doing, but I’m willing to give them a chance to tell the story the way they want to tell it.
We are all “Team Free Will” and can watch whatever we want, and change the channel whenever we please. I plan to give Bloodlines a chance, just like I gave Supernatural a chance and ended up falling in love with the show. If I watch 1 or 2 episodes of Bloodlines and don’t like it, so be it. I know how to use a remote control.
So now, I’m probably the one who will be dodging eggs.
Nobody enjoyed Season 7. Nobody.
Please don’t presume to speak for all of us. Season 7 may not have been your favorite, but it’s one of my top 3 – after 4 and 5. We learned about Bobby’s past, and we met Charlie and Kevin for the first time, as well as Frank Devereaux – one of my favorite characters, by the way. I personally thought the leviathans were interesting because they were the only monsters in a LONG time that the Winchester’s couldn’t figure out a way to kill. There was a lot of value in season 7 even if you and some others can’t see it.
The sheriff is seeing some love this season; I guess the writers realized that the list of good recurring characters who haven't yet been killed off is drastically short. Her scenes with the First Letter of the Alphabet gal more or less worked for me (even if the show was trying to draw parallels in a very heavy-handed manner). I also liked the initial scene with Sam and Dean, where the boys teased her a bit. This kind of humor seems rare these days on Supernatural.
The rest of the episode was, sadly, quite idiotic. Some vampire getting the jump on Sam, Dean getting knocked off... it's like I'm watching this every single time. They can't even profesionally deal with a ragtag group of monsters now without messing it up in the process, after all that hunting experience? And do the monsters have to be so utterly stupid as to leave one hunter untied, or even take their chances knowing full well the reputation of Winchsters? It's cringe-worthy.
They tried to tie Dean's bloodthirst into Mark of Cain towards the end, a bland attempt as it was. Still, a disappointing entry that I could've fast forwarded through, stopping only when Sheriff Mills was on screen. And I already fear for the next episode with its backdoor pilot burden.
&even; take their chances knowing full well the reputation of Winchsters? It's cringe-
&worthy.;
You left out the obligatory three minute monologue of the villain as they relate all their plans to give one brother the inevitable opportunity to untie himself or get the jump on the villain. It's all gotten so Scooby-Doo.
Going back to season 1 would mean going back to fresh and original storytelling and not following a handful of rote formulas.
&It; is understandable for a show in its ninth season to be/feel "tired".
It's not the characters but the writers that are tired; they need to bring in a new set of writers to give us a different take on things.
About the "tired" effect, I think that Dean right now is portayed as someone who is on the breaking point after all he's been through (he is tired). Both Sam and Dean are trapped in the hunting game, they can't escape it. That's one of the things I think the writers take into account and maybe try to show. After 9 years of hunting the boys would be tired that's a given.
This wasn't episode 9 of the season, it was episode 19. 19!!! Episode 19's of ANY series aren't supposed to be fillers. They're supposed to be laying the foundation of what's to come 3 episodes from now in the finale.
But here, we get filler. Next week, we get a back door pilot. That leaves 2 episodes to sort out the whole Abaddon vs Crowley mess (which at last check was completely stalled) as well as Castiel's new angel army vs Boogertron and heaven's new management?
So I guess this wasn't just filler, it's poor time management. Really poor. Like The Walking Dead poor. Unless they plan on carrying over both main story lines into next season, they've got 84 minutes to create resolutions to both...I for one am not optimistic.
After years of talking about it, I got my girlfriend to jump into Supernatural on Netflix. And every time she'd talk about how much she was enjoying it, I'd immediately follow up with, "Great isn't it? But be prepared to walk away from the series at the end of season 5.". She just finished season 5 and counter to my endless warnings, she didn't pretend like she didn't see Sam outside Dean's window and fired up season 6. "What happened to this show?!?!?", she asks. "I told you so...you brought this on yourself.", is the best I could come up with. I told her she need only suffer through 2.5 seasons of crap before things start picking up again. Perhaps I might need to amend that because if these final few episodes go down the toilet, I'm flushing this entire season too.
Boo Supernatural, boo!
My nightmare scenario is that they do indeed leave several of these plots open until next season, leaving us feeling empty with no conclusion and dragging them on. If all the fillers have already left some of us forgetting what's supposed to be going on, I can just imagine what carrying something like Metatron over into season 10 would do to viewers. :-(
I was considering making season 10 my last one way or another but now that this season has failed to live up to the quality of the last half of season 8 I'm not even sure I'd want to push on to season 10. :-(
They're just really stalling now; it's all about the money and holding on to their jobs. There's really nothing left to tell regarding the story of Supernatural and it's just repeating itself. I'd have had the gates of Hell closed in season 8 and a Crowley becoming used to being fully human emotionally and an angel doing the same would be in the back seat on an extended road trip with Sam and Dean. :-) Season nine would be locking the angels in heaven (at least for a time) and/or Castiel finally becoming the new god. Purgatory would not have been a plot factor until the final Season 10; it would be the source of all monsters. Shut THAT and Sam and Dean finally get to live happily after ever. Any spin-offs would need to be set in the past.
I have a feeling that Abbadon/Crowley will resolve this season and Season 10 will take care of the whole Angel/Heaven/Cain issue...
The only question that remains for me is will Crowley survive Season 9.
I hope so. I have loved Mark Sheppard since his BSG days. He was also pretty awesome in LEVERAGE. He was even decent as Icheb's scumbag father in ST:VOYAGER.
If Crowley does die in Season 9, he will be missed by this fan, that is certain..
If the plan is to stretch either or both of these plot lines out for another full season, then I can officially reach the conclusion that this show died after season 5 and that there are no redeeming factors worthy of watching beyond that.
Things started to turn around in season 8 but Abbadon & Boogertron are barely enough for a single season and would be more than enough to ruin the final 2.
My theory (or maybe just my blind hope) is that all this crap with Metatron is ended when the real God (READ: CHUCK) shows up.
This episode on the other hand had a lot of drama and a lot of heart. It doesn't matter at all to me that supernatural has done vampire stories before, what matters is that they're still infusing a lot of drama into these situations, and that we're getting a fresh perspective on it. Compared to some of the over the top one-off stories and tonally inconsistent fan favorite guest stars (Garth), Sheriff Mills showed real signs of character growth and consistency, and was really rewarding to see shine in this episode.
This may actually be my favorite episode of the season, because it didn't force the plot to go in a direction that it wanted -- it focused on these very well acted and truthful characters and told a bittersweet close ended story: something Supernatural is renowned for, but which is also atypical this season.
I'm surprised that Dean didn't use the First Blade. You would think that thing would be urging him to pick it up again, tempting him at every opportunity.
It also surprises me that you didn't expect next episode coming. Everything released about Supernatural: Tribes has mentioned episode 20 and the description. I had been watching this part of the season expecting them to take a vacation from Heaven&Hell: Part 5 to lead in.
I agree with you. This season has been sad for me too -- mostly because the boys aren't together like they should be. Every kind word or kind look between them is like a "piece of candy". I miss the old Dean, too, with the one-liners, itty-bitty temper tantrums and funny faces. Hopefully he'll be back soon.
I personally liked Sam's Marlboro Man look from season 8 -- longer hair. He looks better clean-shaven (they both do), and I found myself wishing through most of seasons 8 and 9 that they would both shave, but Sam's season 8 hair length worked better for me.
btw, I like watching Kim Rhodes, she is beautiful but I would like it if she had at least one of the two pimples on her temples, preferably both, removed. Now it looks like her devilish horns are trying to grow. :-D
So yes, good to see Jody again, but another lackluster end? like the other guest characters like garth and the ghostfacers. Are they trying to make this season as depressingly bad as possible? Why not have the guest take part in the big battles than these unimportant and recycled side plotlines? It's hard for me to say it, but at least season7 knew what it was about. Season9 is so all over the place it's like they forgot what the hell is going on.
Personally, I liked this episode a lot and it was the first episode in a long time that I actually kept watching without surreptitiously zapping the remote every now and then. So yeah yeah it's all been done before, and no it doesn't do the big last week-thingy. So what? I thought it was great to watch, I love Jody with all her down-to-earth intensity. I enjoyed the way Alex/Anne was torn between loyalty and resentment. And Dean in the last scene with just that hint of Cain in him: that was just spot on.
That's just my two cents.
I don't think it's wholly successful at that, but I really enjoyed the episode for what it was and was never bored by it.
SPN has a pacing problem. Always has, always will. It's too late for them to enter a 12 step-program. The end. Just because they want to carry the storylines over to the next season, doesn't merit them having all the major story arcs just fall-off this season. Oh, lots of stuff is occurring, but just OFF SCREEN, guys! I know they like to break the fourth wall, but off screen doesn't actually exist on a television show. I thought everyone learned the valuable lesson of SHOW and TELL in kindergarten or there about, but clearly I am mistaken.
I think the writers have sorta learned that: 1) Killing all the secondary characters is bad 2) Killing all the secondary characters that the fans like is bad 3) Killing all the female characters is also bad. So, they refrain from killing Jodie, but they can't resist maiming her! Impaled and now a destroyed knee. Issues. Just so many fucking issues.
The Mark of Cain storyline is such BULLSHIT. Or it's bad plotting is making it look like bullshit. Fans are speculating up a storm, but the show itself is not on the level at all! I'm sure by the final episodes of the season, the POWAH and the GREAT BURDEN of the mark will have Dean going nutso, murdertastic or something, but the fucking build-up is non-existant (non-existant build-up is becoming this series' theme). I wish Cain!Dean was channeling Nearly vampire!Dean or Fresh outta Purgatory!Dean. Jensen's acting intensity mixed with some creative camera work and editing to convey the sensory change in him. Something. Even, Cas' little perturbed frowning about the mark, didn't lend any type of true anticipatory horror about what the mark means for Dean. Right now, Dean just seems to be suffering from a severe case of PMS and alchoholism. And billions of women suffer with PMS on the daily and they have YET to go on a gleeful killing spree. Dean better woman up and sober up.
OT: Is Jared ill? He looks sick.
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The writers screwed up! The episode was a waste of time. I hope that Alaina Huffman sticks around, I'm so sick of female characters dying on this show! She deserves to stay.
p.s. The show has been on the air for 9 years, NO MORE STANDALONE EPISODES PLEASE! They need to sort this shit out.
pss. The review is right on point.
psss. Where was Cas?!!?!?
I didn't hate this episode, even though monster of the week episodes aren't my favorite.
This episode wuddn't any of those....