Supernatural "Clip Show" Review: Keepin' the Faith

Supernatural S08E22: "Clip Show"


Welp, Sam Winchester's mighty penis of death struck again, leaving cardboard Amelia as his sole surviving lay (that we know of) after eight seasons of Sam crying his way through sex. Think about that. Amelia. Stings, doesn't it?  

Truthfully, I never really completely got the overwhelming love for Sarah Blake. Don't get me wrong—she was refreshingly competent and not utterly useless as far as weekly damsels go, and she was Sam's first romantic interest after his almost-fiance got roasted on the ceiling of their apartment, but eh, you know, we met her back in the first season and then never again, so when it was announced that Taylor Cole was returning to Supernatural as Sarah Blake, my response was more like "Cool." and less like "ZOMGZOMGZOMG!" followed by a victorious keyboard smash.

That said, UGH SUPERNATURAL WHY AREN'T WE ALLOWED TO BE HAPPY???

While Castiel had lunch with Metatron—who likes to go by the civvie name "Marv"—and made some questionable decisions (THIS IS WHY DEAN IS PISSED AT YOU, BRO), Sammich and Dean tried to figure out what "cure a demon" actually meant. Well, it means exactly what it sounds like. In the 1950s, a priest working with the Men of Letters theorized that because demons were really just warped human souls, they could be returned to their human status and admitted to Heaven when they died—which doesn't really make a whole lot of sense when you consider that demons are already dead and also raises some fun ethical questions like, "What happens to the human soul in the possessed body once the demon is returned to human and now has to share?" It's convenient enough if the host is already dead, but that often isn't the case—so then what? Does the potentially centuries-old, formerly twisted soul that is guilty of doing a lot of horrific things just get to hang out in its most recent meatsuit until it keels over? What about demon souls that didn't end up in Hell due to unfortunate deals? Not every soul in Hell is "innocent." What about the legitimately evil people who ended up stuck on the down elevator due to their own horrible life choices? Can they be cured? Should they be cured? What's the difference between a demon and a sincerely evil human being other than superpowers? 

I'm not grumping about details. I'm sincerely curious (and anxious to hear your theories!), and I hope that Supernatural explores the specifics of its newest exorcism in more detail than what Sam and Dean got to in "Clip Show." The fact that Dean himself raised some of those same questions gives me a lot of hope and anticipation that even if the show doesn't address them in next week's season finale, there's always Season 9 in the fall. 

Here's what we know: guilt trips and purified blood work wonders. Does this mean that Sam is back to demon-killin'-secret-weapon status? Cuz I think I can figure out where that purified blood is going to come from. 

But lo, Abaddon—freshly dug up to be a guinea pig while Sam and Dean tried out the shiny new method—escaped because Sam and Dean had a bit of a collective senior moment. To be fair, counting Hell time, they are both well into their geriatric years, so we should all try to be a little more understanding. I guess. 

Nah. 

On top of her royal awesomeness making a break for it, Crowley took a new approach to making the Winchesters' lives suck. He decided to revisit their old cases and kill everyone they ever saved. One corpse every twelve hours until Sam and/or Dean delivered the demon tablet. Clearly, they weren't about to do that even though with two trials down and the third one in progress and Metatron apparently having the angel tablet memorized, the physical tablets themselves are becoming increasingly irrelevant. In Sarah Blake's Indianapolis hotel room, they decided to take a stand, which is exactly what Crowley figured they would do and rather than send one or twelve of his minions to certain death, he did Sarah in with a good old-fashioned hex bag. P.S.: I loved that he was using the Carver Edlund books to track their saves. 

Crowley has come a long way from the campy used-car-salesman type we were initially introduced to, and as disappointing as Sarah Blake's death is, you have to admit, it certainly elevates the stakes for everyone and resonates in a way that sometimes the deaths on this show just... don't. People die all the time and then their demise is undone by magic, deals, convenience, or time-travel shortly afterward. Despite the ominous title of next week's season finale, I'm sincerely hoping we can skip the traditional world-saving Winchester death and just not go there this time. That includes Castiel. Just... no valiant deaths. I'm over it. We're all over it. 

The tragedy of Sarah Blake's death isn't that she died. On a show where death is considered a perfectly valid lifestyle choice, death itself doesn't pack quite the punch that you think it would. The horrible part about Sarah's death is that the meaning ultimately lies with its meaninglessness. That can very easily become a point in the argument that none of Supernatural's female deaths seem to receive the same treatment as the men's do. Meg technically went out as a hero, but it wasn't the sort of glorified warrior death that we've seen Dean and Sam get so many times. Jess was a tool to mold Sam into the perfect Satan vessel. Mary got in the way. Eve's end, for as much as her evil and influence was hyped, was pretty anticlimactic, all things considered. I'm not sure where Ellen and Jo land.

Sarah wasn't your average damsel in distress. When Sam Winchester knocked on her door eight years after they last saw one another and said a demon was going to kill her, she was unfazed—and even as Crowley's countdown hit zero, she was armed and ready to defend herself alongside Sam and Dean. Of course, she never got the chance, but why? So Crowley could remind Dean and Sam that he's more powerful than them? What else is new? That's Supernatural in a nutshell. There's always someone or something more powerful than the Winchesters and historically they've always managed to rise above such things, but for the first time in a long time, it appears there might be something they can't beat. Crowley even took the closest thing they have to a family motto, "Saving people. Hunting things. The family business," and warped it into something twisted and ugly. What's the point of rescuing anyone if something else is just going to kill them later? How can Dean and Sam keep going? How can they justify the suffering that they've both undergone, the losses that they've both experienced, and the sacrifices that they've both made if there's no good left in their wake? In "Provenance," Sarah Blake survived because of her encounter with the Winchesters. In "Clip Show," she died because of it. 


The latter half of Season 8 has been pushing the idea of the Winchesters as a unified front for the first time in years, and it's been truly refreshing after seasons of Wangst and pointlessly melodramatic bro-vs.-bro conflict, but I was still surprised when it was Dean rather than Sam who stood firm and resolved to put an end to Crowley's reign once and for all. The strain of the trials and his previous relationship with Sarah certainly hit Sam hard with her loss, but still, when he's not drinking himself steadily toward liver failure, Dean Winchester is the perfect embodiment of the charming devil-may-care hero type and he knows it. For the first handful of seasons, he embraced the title—and even at his worst, he clung to the good contributions he made to the world for vindication in the face of his darker side. I'm not saying that Dean wasn't shaken by Crowley's ruthless turn, but he's not letting himself break the way Sam did after the loss of Sarah. He told Sam that he would carry him through the trials if he had to, and it's clear now that he's not going to limit that promise to feats of physical strength.


What did you think of "Clip Show"?



CASE NOTES

– Possibly the biggest DUMB WINCHESTER SIGHTING all season long: leaving Abaddon tied up alone to chat with Crowley in the parking lot without even a back-up devil's trap to keep her contained. I mean seriously, how long would it have taken to draw one? They can probably do them with their eyes closed by now. Bleeping morons. 

– But whatever, Abaddon is awesome. 

– Crowley's Casualty List (so far): 

Tommy Collins (Lol, really?) from "Wendigo" (S01E02)

Jenny Klein from "Shut Up, Dr. Phil" (S07E05)

Sarah Blake from "Provenance" (S01E19)

– Not really a huge fan of Castiel closing the gates of Heaven, regardless of his motivation. I've always liked the symmetry of Sam being connected to/associated with Hell stuff and Dean with Heaven. I'm honestly kind of hoping Boogertron set Cas up or something, because that's Dean's mission, dammit! 

– WTF Heaven trials. U crazy. I appreciated the token attempt to make the Nephilim waitress a "bad" girl so we didn't feel bad about Castiel ganking her, but up until he and Metatron attacked her first, we had no reason to think she was anything that deserved to die. I mean, c'mon, Season 4 Sam was a more villainous "abomination" than she was and we let him live. Sometimes. 

– "You don't understand; I need pie." Aw, Castiel and his apology groceries broke my Grinch heart. 

– Sarah said she liked Sam's Season 1 hair the best. Idk. I want to know if Jared Padalecki uses sulfate-free shampoo, because his locks have looked increasingly glossy and lush this season and I've recently made the change myself and it's kind of the best hair decision I've made even with the awkward adjustment period or whatever. So: Season 1 Sam hair or Season 8 Sam hair?


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OK. Referring to your judgmental mistake in your CASE NOTE...Sam & Dean DID NOT bother to draw a demon trap because there was ALREADY a demon trap in Abaddon's skull in the shape of a bullet. PAY MORE ATTENTION TO STUFF NEXT TIME.
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He said 'without even a BACK-UP devil's trap'. He obviously knew about the bullet, but with a demon as powerful as Abaddon I would've thought about taking a few extra precautions as well.
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There's overwhelming love for her because she's hot.
The guest stars were pretty wasted, weren't they? Crammed too much in one episode again, guys.
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Cas talking on the trials? I only see bad things coming from this. He said that the tablets weren't meant for the angels. He's an angel. They are meant for the humans...for a reason! He's irritating me. He can't ever seem to learn from past mistakes.
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The beginning of the episode took me by surprise, in that it wasn't just some random guy/gal being set up to meet an untimely demise. Bringing a guest star all the way back from season 1, only to have him swiftly killed in a typically gruesome manner. Heh. That's Supernatural for you.
It was fun reminiscing, for a while. Until the show decided to issue another somber reminder-- that nope, we just aren't allowed to have nice things. It looks like that fairly short list of survivors might be getting even shorter...

I certainly felt the impact of Sarah Blake's death, and I certainly did not expect it to hit that hard. Perhaps it was the hopelesness of the situation, or the expectation that it would all be stopped before it became too late...
Crowley really struck where it hurts. He is living up to his potential of a clever schemer now, rather than just employing a brute force of his demon minions.

Traditionally, I disliked the self-righteous Dean having a go at Cas. Not that he always made the right calls and was totally innocent himself. But then of course Castiel had to go and make a horrible decision of killing an angel/human offspring who didn't deserve to die (purifying trials in order to close Hell, dirty trials in order to close Heaven? - does feel odd). All based on Metatron's word. I'm not sure what the scribe's endgame is, but I'm already not liking what I'm seeing.

The episode would've been really good, what with the new form of exorcisms and exploring more of the Men of Letter headquarters` interior, but I feel that it's been largely undermined by the stupidity surrounding Abaddon's release. She might make a good villian and the writers might've decided that they wanted her back, but did they really have to go for the most dumb and logic-defying way?
Take out one of the most powerful demons you've ever met for a trial exorcism run, and then leave her all on her own, with no secondary devil's traps sprung around, why won't you. Dumb, dumb, dumb. Downright impossible for such veteran hunters. This was even worse than Sam and Amelia or them trying to convince us that Sam would not look for Dean, and that is saying much.
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On the subject of Nephilim: I really hope it isn't just me that's been wondering about the Loki/Gabriel thing. Loki in Norse mythology had spawn - does that mean that in the Supernatural mythos they were Gabriel's Nephilim? And if Jane the Waitress's angel parent was of the garden variety, and she kicked the crap out of Cas and Boogertron, how powerful/dangerous will the offspring of an archangel be? And how peeved with this theoretical spawn be when encountered?
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Nephilim are off springs of the Grigori. Depending on religion the Grigori are "watchers" a superior order of angels or the Grigori are some of the 200 angels that were punished and banished to earth. A spawn of Loki would be a Demigod. Wouldn't it?
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When Sam came back from Hell, I thought I remembered them establishing something along the lines of him being "cured" from all the demon blood cravings and powers--like, reincarnated body doesn't come with the demon blood issues. But a couple things they've dropped the last few episodes make it seem like maybe that's not the case (or I've remembered it wrong) and if they need "pure" blood...Would Sam's even work? Maybe it they would have to use Dean's, but does that count as Sam curing the demon? Would be interesting to see either of those boys in a confession booth. They have a world of things to say.
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Seems like you called out the "confession booth" part in advance! Unfortunately we did not get to learn any dirty secrets.
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But we got enough... Sam still doesn't think he's good enough for his brother.
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Sam actually went in his own body, which Castiel later pulled back out of Hell. So, the cravings may have been gone but the demon taint in his blood would still be there.
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Great, thanks for that. The plot remains thickened.
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Am very confused about Metatron, according to Angel Lore he has been referred to as the only human to become an Angel. Enoch, the grandfather of Noah, was taken to heaven and made an angel, yes Enoch as in the books of Enoch, omitted texts from the bible, anyway Metatron is the largest of the angels, massive and sits beside God, he is a force to be reckoned with, not just a scribe. He is one of the most powerful and is part of the highest in Angel hierchy.
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They certainly made Metatron come across as rather... underwhelming. But perhaps it's been an elaborate ruse? He seems to amount to a little more now, after the season finale.
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This show started when I first began law school. Now, I have not just a JD but a master's degree in law AND I'm a partner in my Los Angeles firm. No offense to anyone . . . but I really feel as if they've done just about everything they can do with ol' Sam and Dean. A really great, unusual show with once-upon-a-time excellent writing seems to be evaporating because it's stayed w a a a a a y y y too long at the party. I haven't watched since season five and just happened to catch the last epi. I felt like it was shockingly, quite sadly bad.
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That's quite a leap to take when passing judgement. Jumping at the end of the season without much knowledge of what's been happening and dismissing it outright.
The truth of the matter is that there were still outstanding episodes in season 6 and only season 7 was a disaster for the series. Now season 8 has been uneven, but it took a direction for the better.

If there is anything I'd concede, it's that Supernatural (as just about any long series) would benefit from less episodes per season (less filler episodes, to be exact) in order not to dilute the storytelling. But it's not like there is any rule that suddenly makes shows become bad after X seasons.
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Just doing a little light reading: Metatron is another name given to the archangel Sariel, that would explain the saving of Kevin from The King of Hell
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And maybe Castiel is the last archangel (there were seven), the archangel Raguel
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Let us say that they close the gates of Hell. what happens to the demons running wild. You can't kill them because they couldn't go back "down" and I'm sure you can't cure all demons. Maybe there is an hidden agenda. you can't close one without closing the other. but I feel that Metatron is corrupting Castiel (What I believe to be the third trial from the angel tablet) and is planning something big: For someone who loves our freewill and our stories he sures doesn't care too much for the hairless apes. Maybe Chuck should come back to earth (yes, I am still convinced he is God), because from what the angels have told, there can only be a new prophet, when the other dies, and all I saw was him (Chuck) vanishing. My only doubt is how Becky and some absence of moral in the character. To finish please bring Death back into play. To see that gentleman act is a true pleasure
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Metatron? are there transformers on the show now? I haven't seen this season but that sounds odd even for this show.
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I hope this is a joke but if not... Google is your friend.
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Not to worry you but I am joking half joking anyway, I really haven't checked out what metatron is And I wouldn't want to ruin the show for myself completely unless metatron is a real beast of legend and such It has not passed my ears or eyes.
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Metatron is not a transformer. It's a religious thing. :) Ties in nicely with the show's mythology, in my opinion.
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I'm not sure what to make of Metatron. I like the casting choice but I would wait with the closing of Heaven before Hell is locked. although if there is more nutcases like Naomi up there, it may not be such a bad idea.
I find your take on the last scene interesting as, following Crowley's monologue, I feel like Sam is the one who always cares a bit more about teh collateral damage where Dean gets tunel vision and doesn't care who dies to achieve their goal as long as it's not Sam. it is understandable, but it leads to situations where I just want to kick his ass.
Dean and Castiel were a total married couple in this episode. and Castiel's apology shopping was the most bittersweet thing I have seen in a long time.Pity he didn't get the change to deliver them. including pie
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I think he'd want the Heaven and Hell gates closed at roughly the same time, so one faction doesn't easily take over Earth.
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Maybe the third trial from the Angel tablet is to corrupt an angel. Kind of what Metatron is doind to Castiel
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No, no more corrupting Castiel. We've already seen all that. I'm getting tired of watching Castiel make mistakes and going evil or whatever... I liked him more in the early years when he was just a fun supporting character with no real story arcs (when Dean & Sam and Michael & Lucifer were more of a big deal).
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OH SNAP. That would epic.
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The episode should be called "Crowley strikes back".
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I say season 8 is the season that got Crowley right. He was teased at being the Big Bad in Season 6, but Cas "killed" him after 4 episodes and he was replaced by Eve, who only lasted 3 episodes before she died and Crowley resurfaced, but was regulated to side Baddie so Cas and Raphael could fight each other. Season 7 had the Leviathans as the Big Bads, so Crowley took a back seat. Here, Crowley had no competition anymore, so he could do whatever he felt like... and he did it with style!
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just wanted to stop in and say i saw the whole "close the gates of heaven" thing coming. it seemed pretty reasonable that since the demon tablet could close the gates of hell, once an angel tablet was introduced, similarly it could tell you how to close the gates of heaven, but what good is a tablet when you have the real life version in Metatron. And if the first step is killing an innocent half angel/half human, i can't wait to see what the next step is.
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I think alot of people saw "close gates of Heaven" coming...but I don't see this as a bad thing,because it is already here and first trial already done. Bring it on...I wanna see what happens...oh the wait....
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the trials are changing sam into something, i wonder what the trials will change Cas into.
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while i will admit i did not see Cas as the one doing the trials, thought for sure dean would be doing them
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Here are my theories about demon souls being "cured:"

Normally, when demon's possess humans they take over all functions of the host body, and hang out with the human souls in their own heads. Demons are essentially a human soul that has been twisted over several years spent tortured in Hell, so that it is now evil (or was evil, but is now really evil). More importantly, we learned two seasons ago that demons are really just ghosts. They are much more powerful than regular ghosts, but they are ghosts nontheless. This means that if you burn their bones they die (or at least can't exist anywhere other than in the afterlife), and that they are, again, just souls.

When normal ghosts possess humans, this is in effect a human soul sharing a body with another human soul. The human soul that is the ghost is able to fully control the body that they are possessing, much like a demon does, though usually demons exhibit a much better control of their hosts than ghosts do. So, therefore, if a demon were "cured" and suddenly became the souls that they once were, then they would again be just a ghost. And as a ghost, they would be able to exist with another human soul in the same body.

Now, we never saw what the priest did with that demon in the video, so we don't know how the priest sent that demon up to Heaven (or even if the demon was sent to Heaven, it could just have been putting on a show, as demons tend to do. I realize that that's unlikely, but it's possible). He could have just slit the body's throat, but I really think/hope that that isn't what happened, or what the Winchesters plan on doing. Because after all, if the human is still alive you can simply exorcise the demon and only the human will remain, probably damaged mentally and possibly physically, but very much alive and functional nontheless.

In the past, Sam and Dean have refrained from doing exorcisms all that much anymore, for a number of reasons. First of all, they are fairly lengthy, require a certain amount of concentration, and require a precise script that must be said verbatim. So it is very difficult to pull off an exorcism when the demon in question is trying to kill you with her/his superior strength and powers. Also, when a demon is exorcised they don't actually die, but rather get sent back to Hell. Therefore, this isn't a very practical solution when it comes to the brothers defeating their big bads, or even some of their more deadly enemies, since chances are those freshly exorcised demons will just be crawling up out of Hell to face off with them in the next couple of weeks. Understandably, then, exorcisms really aren't that practical as a tool for the Winchesters when it comes to defeating their enemies, even if using their demon knife tends to kill the human host as well as the demon possessing him/him (for a while now they've been saying that it's fine to kill demons with the knife because the human hosts are probably already dead, but there's no real justification for this). In fact, the last time, in a long time, that either of the Winchesters used an exorcism, it was when Sam said the usual exorcism backwards to keep a demon from leaving her/his human host.

However, while using an exorcism to defeat an evil demon is usually impractical, the cons of an exorcism suddenly become pros when you're dealing with a demon that's been cured. First of all, when you exorcise an evil demon, they get sent straight to Hell. But if that demon were turned good and pure, so that it could theoretically reside in Heaven, then logically if it were exorcised it wouldn't be sent to Hell. And since exorcisms leave the human host unharmed, and since once the demons have left they return back to normal, albeit with no small amount of trauma to deal with, then the human host of this purified demon should be unharmed as well.

Now, here is where my theory branches out in two directions, though both of them eventually lead to this purified demon going to Heaven. The first direction is as such: if demons are normally sent straight to Hell once they're exorcised, then exorcising a cured demon could send it straight to Heaven. If this is the case, then the purified demon has successfully gone to Heaven, case closed. However, this in part assumes that the rules for demons still kind-of apply to purified demons, and that they are still enough like a demon, metaphysically speaking, that exorcising them will send them to one afterlife or the other. However, as I have previously pointed out, a purified demon would technically be more like a human soul than anything, with the exception of being maybe just a tad more powerful than your average ghost (It's unclear as to where their powerful comes from. If it's from consuming souls, which is what angels and demons usually do to become more powerful, then this purified demon may or may not still have the remnants of these souls in them). If this is the case, then the ghost (or any demon for that matter) could just leave its human host and wander about our world, until her/him ran into the closest reaper. Upon hooking up with this reaper (not in that way), the cleansed demon would then be escorted into the afterlife, and since this purified demon is worthy of residing in Heaven, it would go to Heaven (provided no one in Hell with enough influence drags them back).

So there you have it. Either way, the idea of demons being cured, still living with their host's souls inside their host's body, and then being sent away into Heaven, all fits nicely into the show's established mythology. There's even a bit of wiggle room when it comes to how the cured demons end up in Heaven.
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I like your theories, they do all fit in to the established cannon. I do have one point though, that they would have to change the Latin wording of the exorcism to sent the former demon to Heaven. I think the way the wording is now it specifically says "Go directly to Hell, do not pass Go, do not collect $200" or something like that. The brothers would have to reword, but given Sammy's fluency with Latin I don't think that would be a problem.
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I just looked up the wording of the exorcism they use on the show, and it actually never says that the demons should return to Hell. However, at several points it does tell them that they are wicked, creatures of Satan, evil, unholy, impure, etc. It also beseeches them to stop doing the evil things that they are doing. So you are right in saying that they'll need to change the wording of their exorcism quite a bit, considering the fact that the demon they're exorcising is no longer a creature of Satan, and is no longer doing evil things. So yeah, nice point.
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Can I just say how impressed I am you looked up the wording? Cause I am...very!
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Overall, this was an awesome episode. In fact, the only complaints I had with it centered around the B story of Castiel and Metatron embarking on the path toward closing the Gates of Heaven. Seriously, what is up with that? First of all, I'm still unsure of whether or not that actually is Metatron, especially since Crowley went to so much trouble to have his fake Dean and Sam manipulate Kevin into deciphering the tablet for him. Even though Castiel theoretically has the ability to see any creatures true form, and therefore would be able to tell if Metatron were an impostor, it's still extremely suspicious that some angel he doesn't know randomly showed up right next to him to enlist his help in closing the Gates of Heaven forever.

Now, I can see Metatron's point that Heaven and the angels really need some time to sit down together and talk some things out, so closing the Gates of Heaven for a while could be just what God's second (or third depending on where Eve fits into the order of creation) creatures need. However, if they complete the three trials they will be closing the Gates of Heaven for good, as in forever (unless for some reason the situation isn't identical to what it is for the Hell Tablet and the Gates of Hell, which is very unlikely since it would be asymmetrical and just plain unfair). I mean, unless there's a certain amount of choice given to the closer of these gates--a questionnaire that asks them "would you like to close these gates for A. a measly hundred years, B. make it an eon, C. Just close them now and I'll get back to you later if they should be opened, or D. why not, let's go ahead and make this thing permanent"--then the completion of either three trials will effectively lock the doors and throw away the key.

It's really obvious why Sam and Dean want the Gates of Hell closed forever, because...well...it's Hell, a place that they've both been too and really didn't like. And sure, there is the question of "where do the souls of the wicked go once Hell is blocked off?" (something which I'm very excited to see what they do with in Season 9, btw), but the pros really outweigh the cons in this case. However, there is no real reason why either Metatron, or especially Castiel, would ever want to close of Heaven for good. After all, God charged the angels with looking after the humans, a charge which becomes impossible to complete once you've become forever cut off from our universe. And yet, unless there's some sort of reset code that Metatron knows about that we don't (in which case the stakes involved in completing these trials are a whole lot lower than they've been made this entire season), Castiel just happily jumped aboard the "let's close off Heaven from every other universe forever, because that will magically solve all our angelic problems."

I mean, even if closing the Gates of Heaven weren't permanent, it's not like that would realistically curb all the fighting in Heaven. All the fighting is already going on in Heaven anyway, so they're still going to need some powerful force to intervene up there. And if, like it's been implied, this force is Metatron (which makes a whole lot of sense since he is effectively the Word of God and could become a more realistic God-replacement than Castiel ever was) I don't see why he hasn't ambled up to Heaven and put a stop to the Heaven already. Sure, he might be worried about some angels leaving Heaven and taking the fighting elsewhere, but couldn't he at least try holding a summit before doing so drastic as to close off the Gates of Heaven forever?

But more than all of the previous points I just made, the thing that really irks me about this whole situation is that it should be Crowley who's trying to close the Gates of Heaven. First of all, how cool would it be to see him having to complete various trials from time to time? Secondly, even though he's focused on keeping his deal old Hell open for business, he should still be sending at least some of his more capable minions to try and at least complete a few trials. Based on the fact that all of the Hell trials have appropriately revolved around Hell (kill a hell-hound, go to Hell and break someone out, cure a demon), it would follow that all of the Heaven trials will similarly revolve around Heaven. So far we know that the first trial is to kill a Nephilim (offspring of an angel and a human), which, if it weren't for the Nephilim in question's sudden mean streak at the end of the episode, would be a cruel thing to do. Further trials could include sending a soul from Heaven to Hell, killing a prophet, making an angel fall from grace, etc.

All of these things are, as Metatron freely admitted, very cruel, unpleasant, and will probably be very evil at some point. So why is Castiel doing all of these things? Crowley should be completing these trials if only for the fact that he'd be very motivated and have a positive attitude toward doing all these terrible things. But instead, we have Castiel (who as of this last episode is the only being who can now close the Gates of Heaven) going about these things reluctantly with an "okay, I guess I'll do all of these things, but I just don't know..." kind of attitude. Anyway, it's a moot point now because, as I've said, there was only one Nephilim left and Castiel killed her, meaning that no one else can complete the trials except him. I just hope that once Cas has realized that he just done three terrible things in order to do something that would normally be the bad guy's job to do, he doesn't try pulling a "it seemed like the the right thing to do at the time."

Other than all of that lengthy stuff that I just typed out (which actually amounted to only about five minutes of the episode), I thought the rest of "Clip Show" was absolutely brilliant. I don't even mind that Sam and Dean were really stupid when it came to letting Abbadon go free, since I think she's a great character that should be allowed to roam free anyway.
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What is wrong with Supernatural lately......
After finally meeting Metatron last week (Which was a brilliant episode, prolly the only one this year), I gotta say, poo poo to the writers for the follow up. First off, who digs up a "Knight of Hell" for a trial run? Such sloppy shit has run rampant this season. Leaving the building for a phone call? Plain ol' shite. I'm not gonna look up who all the writers have been just to call them worthless, but some of the episodes this season have just been so LAZY and contrived. Come to think of it, just about all of the episodes actually dealing with the mythology for the season have been just plain shite. Amanda Tapping has been shite (Loved ya' in SG1, but that's about it unfortunately). Misha has been just abused with poor writing, cuz that cat can act. Felecia Day once a month? Come on!!!! There is a lot left to go to get to season 10, and alot more can be done. Bring in some new blood on the writing staff, because these guys are just not doing it. I could site examples of your laziness this season for pages, but the fact is that YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DID WRONG....

So, either fix it, or hire me.
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Abaddon isn't just alive, she's now ZOMBIE DEAMON WITCH Abaddon. From the way things went, she's sure to be going after Crowley now.
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And I can't wait. GET 'IM, ABBIE.
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I hope so. As much as I have liked Crowley, he has had his run as the big bad. They need a new big bad.
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I knew that they'd introduce Nephilims - or in this case a Nephilim - this season! I really think that they should delve deeper and explore the concept of Nephilims a bit more since I found the introduction of this ep's Nephilim (forgot her name) interesting. They should also really continue the story of the Antichrist kid in S5 and introduce Cambions as a legitimate enemy and it'll provide a nice parallel to the Nephilims. I hoped that they bring back the couple from "Asylum" instead of Tommy and Jenny but whatever. Overall, thought this ep was awesome and I can't believe that next week's the finale. Dreading the upcoming 3 month+ hiatus.
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Oh man, I just cry my way through hiatus. Last year, it was August, and I distinctly remember being really excited because I was like, "YEAH. SEPTEMBER IS THE NEXT MONTH AND THAT MEANS SUPERNATURAL IS BACK." And then they pushed the premiere to October and there was much weeping.

Cambion and Nephilim sound like a delightful idea!
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Same here. Though I try to marathon all seasons of SPN during the hiatus in order to play through the pain. I hope that the next season isn't pushed back to far but if it is, then at least we'll have few breaks. :)
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Awsome,awsome,AWSOME episode. Great callback to 1st season! I love,how show can make Winchesters stupid and then everytime Crowley uses Moose and Squirrel,I just laugh so much sweeter because of it. Abaddon(love her!!!! right up there with Meg and Crowley as big bad baddies) escapes and Sam looks at chair and then at box,where hand was...like "oh she took her hand(s) with her:D" OF COURSE SHE TOOK HER HAND WITH HER!!!! AND YES,THIS IS HOW SHE ESCAPED!!!:D...Oh and we know Crowley will kill Sarah,but let's just draw some symbols and hope it works:D AAAAnd...he will kill people we saved,but let's keep demons on Earth and cause more deaths and more saving needed to be done...woow,where does one stop with these 2:D

METATRON AND CAS....I LOVE YOU!!!! Hell,I would watch just you 2. SUPERNATURAL YOU BETTER KEEP METATRON ALIVE,don't care what excuse you need him to be alive(go with he is messenger of God,etc.!),BUT YOU BETTER KEEP HIM ALIVE!!!
Think this is the first time in show,that someone is doing something not Winchester related. Sure,Cas had Civil War in Heavens,but we got so little of that. Now we are SEEING and ALREADY dealing with angel tablet in a way and TRIAL FOR CLOSING GATES OF HEAVEN.
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"– "You don't understand; I need pie." Aw, Castiel and his apology groceries broke my Grinch heart. " -- HA-HA! I totally agree! That was by far the most awesome thing to ever happen! I hate how at one point the writers just forgot Dean's obsession with pie and now that they remember it was pure joy! XD

I like when some of the scenes, or episodes even are a bit light hearted and filled with more jokes. (and I mean Cas/Dean episode where Dean took Cas to get laid because he is a virgin) So, personally I did not enjoy most of this, because of my despise for Crowley.
I seriously believe Crowley has overstayed his welcome. Why did everyone I love on the show had to die but him? Come on, enough already. I think the boys have been through enough bad stuff, can't they be happy for once? I miss Anna/(original actress)Meg so much! <<<

Also, are the writers/producers of this show sexist? I mean, every female character on the show is dead. (I also miss Joe) Don't get me wrong, I love Cas (and I don't want anything to happen to him) but why is that every female character on the show gets killed off after a handful of episode? It's just not right. < WE need female eye-candy. lol < XD

Peace!
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Ahh yessss, the age old sexist Supernatural debate! Not gonna lie, I cringed when Dean said "Sit there like a good bitch" to Abbadon because that's pretty awful. I really don't think they even realize that they're doing it half the time and Misha Collins alluded to it in an interview he did at one of the cons http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Q8QlDxTnB_Y where stuff just gets written and filmed and after the fact, they're all like, "That was kind of bad."

There's also the argument that cites the fact that the writers and producers are actually very open about the fact that they DO pay attention to fan criticism and they WANT to make a show that everyone likes and I honestly do think that in the case of female characters, the fanbase is a little (lot) more vocal about whether a character is liked or not and it tends to lead to premature death. Everyone likes to get nostalgic about Jo these days, but she really wasn't terribly popular until she was killed off. :/
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Since there just aren't many recurring characters, period, I haven't been terribly bothered by the female characters' deaths. If anyone sticks around too long, they'd probably be developed into a love interest and the show's never quite focused on that. I suppose Kevin's character could have been a girl without the storyline being any different. Obviously Amelia was terrible but I think it might be time for Dean to have a bit of a relationship again.
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That interview is pretty interesting! Thanks for the link! Misha is so charming! lol <

I honestly do not get the "fanbase hates female characters", it's simply not true. If they want to listen to the fans, and make a better show than they should stop killing off every female character! The only one left is Charlie, and she showed up late Season 8 or beginning of Season 9 ? It's just feels a little unfair, you know? Bobby was on for so long, Cas/Kevin too...

It does feel that the showrunners hate every female character on the show, at least to me. <<<
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I do love Crowley and I'm happy, he's still there (his directingscenes were awesome!)
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I've had enough of him. How long has he been king of hell or whatever? Isn't it time the writers kill him off? I've had enough of his hatred for the boys. It's just too much you know? Like he is so vile, and I just can't stand the sight of him much anymore.
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That's the whole point...Crowley is bad guy(King of Hell,demon),Winchesters are good guys(hunters). They wanna kill him,close gates on him,so why wouldn't he want them dead or to stop with trials? Should he just roll over and die!?!?! Crowley is awsome. And he started just as salesman,but now he is King of Hell.
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Thank you thank you thank you for this awesome review. I actually had to take notes as I was reading it (I do in fact know how lame I am) so I could properly comment. First off: I thought "penis of death" must have been a typo and laughed so hard when I finished the sentence and realized it wasn't.

I was sure this episode was going to suck, clip shows generally do. They tend to be geared towards catching up the casual viewer so they know the importance of the next few episodes. This wasn't like that at all, this was more like reminds us loyal fans "remember this person?" It didn't explain anything to a person who hasn't seen the episode before. I also liked the subtlety that they brought up the Carver Edlund books with Charlie to remind us about them then "Oh yea, they are important now" It makes me wonder if, somehow, they will be even more important as things go on.

I loved Sara Blake, and was super excited she was coming back. However, didn't we all know she was going to die the second it was announced? That's an old Kripke thing, he said back in season one that as fans were asking for certain guest (Pastor Jim, and Caleb) he would bring them in or back just to kill them. This death hit as hard as it did (for me anyway) because, as you said, it was pointless. She died for no reason other than Crowley wanted to hurt the boys, and that's why it worked so well in it's purpose. They lose people, it's why they are such good hunters, it's what keeps them driven, but there is always the hope that for every person they lose, they will save the lives of maybe 5 more. What Crowley did was destroy that hope and that is the best way to break someone. Don't break their bones...don't deprive them of things...take away their hope that things will get better, or that they are achieving something. Jo and Ellen's death almost broke Dean for that reason. They went through all that and didn't even manage to kill Lucifer. (BTW Ellen and Jo's death was the most moving in the entire series, more than John's, Sam's first time, Dean's in S. 3, even Bobby's. Even having seen that episode a dozen times I still bawl like a baby each time.)

The voice over as they searched for the hex bag and Sara was dying, only to find it after she died was heartbreaking. It was very well done, between what Crowley was saying and the expression of desperation on both of their faces was plenty, but taking away the background noise added to the hollow feeling in my gut.

Let's talk about how great Abaddon is. She's been buried for a few months now and girlfriend's lipstick is barely smeared. And the Cousin It hand pulling out the bullet was great, it had me shouting at my TV "GET BACK IN THERE YOU IDJITS!!!" Definitely the dumbest thing they've ever done, even dumber than Dean walking up behind Death thinking he could actually kill him. Even thought it doesn't make any sense for Abaddon to stay in that woman, I'm glad the actress is getting to come back.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that Marv is playing Cas. I guess the idea of killing the "abomination" fits with what we've seen of God so far, but I didn't like the idea of Cas killing that girl. It seemed like an easy out when she went rabid, like that makes it OK they were going to cut out her heart before they knew that. And while I'm on the subject of Cas, I loved the shopping scene too "I *need* pie".
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Yep. The penis of death is a thing. A mighty thing...of...death...poooooor Sam.

I LOVE how much this season is actively trying (and succeeding) at tying itself into the earlier seasons with the books and the guest stars and Sam's demon blood being a thing. I'm totally committed to Supernatural until the series finale airs but not gonna lie, Seasons 6 and 7 were CHORES. They just had such a terrible sucky sequel disconnect from the rest of the series.

ABADDON! I like to call her Abby (or Abbie, I can't decide if I like the Y or the IE) but as soon as they turned to leave the room I was screaming at the TV.

The Nephilim thing bothered me a lot. Like, the hell trials are unquestionably "just." Hellhounds are bad. Innocent souls deserve to go to Heaven. Demons used to be people. I GUESS the Nephilim trial kind of worked if we're going with the theme of things associated with Heaven but it just didn't seem like a just death and if God made the trials as backup to protect his creations then why would he have one of the trials include destroying one? She was HALF human, after all. And it's not like she was hiding in the woods eating puppies. She was just a waitress, doing her thing, and then these angels showed up to kill her. I don't blame her for going rabid at all. :/

Sooo I really hope Marv is playing Cas. Yup.
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Abby strikes me as preppy while Abbie is more off beat, so when she's in her 50's costume she can be Abby and while she's in her "The Devil Made Me Do It" costume she can be Abbie.
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Good episode, Crowley was back to TRUE DEMONIC ways. Taking out people that Sam and Dean saved, and using the Supernatural books to find them. Brilliant. I love Crowley and seeing him be so devious was absolutely fabulous. Leaving Abaddon alone was a stupid move, but I figured she would find some way to get out of it. Plus it will be interesting to see what she does now that she is free, she didn't seem to like that Crowley was now the King of Hell. I was shocked that they weren't able to save Sarah, but Crowley's move was smart. He went into a monologue/speech on the phone, while Sam and Dean searched desperately for the hex bag, only to have them discover after Sarah dies that the bag was in the phone the whole time. It was Fucked up but brilliant. Not sure what to make of Metatron (Marv). I want to believe he is being truthful with Castiel, but I have a feeling he may be the one working with Crowley. Next week's finale should be VERY interesting.
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With all the recent mentions of the Supernatural books, I really hope that Chuck (God?) will make an appearance.
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Yeah me too.
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First off Castiel tried to get Dean pie! Can we just take that in for a moment? It was so cute. Angels are bad at shopping it seems and kind of destructive. On another angel note what the heck heaven? Really?

I've always wondered what happens to some of the people that Sam and Dean save. I mean a lot of time they have to tell people the supernatural is real and it's about come crashing through the walls. Killing them is just mean. I liked Sarah from season 1. Yeah, she wasn't important, but it was nice to see Sammy notice a lady again. Killing her off kind of killed all feelings of nostalgia.

When the boys left Abaddon both my mother and I looked at each other and went, "She's getting free." I mean come on. At least leave her hands in the car or something. Ugh! How could they not see that coming? You never leave the powerful captured person alone in a room because when you come back they'll either jump out to kill you or be gone. Everyone knows this.

Also can you imagine Abaddon skips out of her body and someone finds that? I mean that's nightmare stuff right there. I know it doesn't look like she will. Seriously, if someone found the put back together pretty lady they'd need therapy. Oh the weird things I think about.
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I say close the gates of hell and heaven (the angels suck, except for Cas). Not sure about Metatron (total transformer name)--is he really Metatron or a bad angel or other entity... I think he is actually Metatron and I say close all the gates;-)
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You've never seen Dogma have you? I think Metatron has been around much longer than the Transformers. Word of God you know.
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saw Dogma but Transformers if more recent so it was remembered more easily.

Christopher Walken did the best angel movies! badass angels
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Walken? Alan Rickman was Metatron in Dogma.
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different movies dude

The best movies about angels is a series with Christopher Walken (The Prophecy series of movies). You've never seen it? If not then watch it if you like bad ass angels...better movies then Dogma imo.

I was just expanding on the angel theme--I thought that was obvious. Sorry I didn't make it clear but I'm trying to keep my comments shorter then this one since I tend to ramble on trying to explain everything. The one time I don't explain everything is the time someone doesn't get it....murphy's law (cliche or superstition)....

You like the awesome Alan Rickmann then check out this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eob7V_WtAVg

then this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_FaXMvrpsI
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Crowley kills the ones they directly saved but not the ones they indirectly saved (future potential deaths by the "monsters". Close the gates of Hell...don't make deals with the devil. They need to remember they have saved numerous potential lives and just get on with closing hell
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First off I have to say the scene where Cass was shopping for Dean was just hilarious. Always funny seeing powerful creatures/characters doing fairly mundane everyday tasks.
For the rest of the ep, quite a lot packed in.
I agree with everyone here about how careless it was to not have any devil's trap seals or why not take her back to the 'dungeon' and do the exorcism there? Why introduce that room if they weren't going to use it?
Also agreed that of all demons, they had to pick a pretty powerful one? I didn't see that episode and forgot the part about the knight thing, but yeah hardly the right person to try and exercise.
I too wonder how Crowley got info about the victim of the witches from last season unless maybe he didn't get that from the book and it was some demon lackey getting the info and passing it off? I guess it was nice about bringing back characters from the 1st season as those tends to be 1 offs and forgotten, so nice on that part even though the girl died anyway. Nice about Crowley being creative to kill her with the hex bag than to just send some demons to die.
I will say this about Crowley, I liked him better as the anti-hero worried about saving his ass. Season 5 was his best season as he was funny and he just doesn't seem credible as the big bad. If Abbadon? is the villain for next season, that might be nice. What happened to that Alpha Vamp? He said he'd see the Winchesters 'next season'. Not like I'd see any need for him to be back, but seems pointless to throw that line in if he isn't going to return.
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I know right? I've been waiting to see the Alpha Vamp all season because of that BLATANT line they put in last season. And come one, he was a Bada**! We need more of those characters to spice it up :)
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Exactly. Maybe he could've been a better reason for Benny to stay around instead of just letting him go back to purgatory. Well season 9, so here's hoping they come back?
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Cas needs to be watching the Winchester boys. What's more important, closing the pearly gates or keeping an eye on Sam and Dean while they finish up the last trial that will close the gates of hell! c'mon now. priorities.

The deaths of past characters of the week was a little...hmrph. In the scope of things their importance has very little meaning. Sarah didn't mean much to Sam. Maybe if Sam got it in and secretly had a love child then that would be interesting. Would've been better to see Lisa and Ben kidnapped, but I guess Crowley was reading those books from the beginning as to avoid any spoilers. Also too bad the show couldn't bring back that hottie Amy Acker, but she's too busy Rooting it up on POI.

Am I the only one who hopes that Jesse the Antichrist is brought back to save Sam and Dean's hides?

How about a Crowley origin tale?
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"To avoid any spoilers" HAHAHAHAHAHAA! fantastic! I completely forgot about Jessie, yes please let him come back.
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I thought that the Winchesters's novels stopped from publishing when the prophet disappeared in season 5! I remember they said something about that too! so how did Crowley knew about Jenny?!

I also miss the old Crowley when he used 2 be just a salesman... when he used to help our boys.
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Maybe Chuck is still secretly writing the Winchester Gospels...
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Crowley did say he did various forms of research, I'm sure there are other ways to find out who they saved, but that is a good point.
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I really liked this episode, but I kind of died inside, when they left abbadar. I mean... realllllly??
Poor Sarah... She was the only person I remembered from the earlier episodes. I really hoped they would save her.
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I liked this episode but I really did facepalm when they left the demon alone in that chair. It was so obvious that she was going to break free.
AND loved that Castiel knows Dean enough to grab Busty Asian Beauties and pie :D And I have never liked Sam's hear, too long for my taste.
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Sam's hair***
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Medatron to Castiel : Put down the VIRGIN LOL
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Cas tries so hard!
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The episode was really good. Crowley hunting down the people the brothers' have saved over the years was a good one, and killing off Sarah, well, while it sucks for the boys, and for the Season 1 episode where they saved her, it was a nice way to push them further towards ending Crowley (even though I like Crowley, but he's been around since Season 5 and still top evil? time to maybe pass the torch) I'm missing something, why the hell is Castiel interested in closing the gates of Heaven? What will happen to the souls on Earth when people die where will they go if both Hell and Heaven are closed? What about locking the gates of Purgatory so no monsters can get out? But then the creatures will have no where to go when they die either, so..yeah hello confusion. I think Mettatron is evil, or is working to release Lucifer or perhaps working for Naomi; I just don't trust him for shit.

The exorcism 2.0 is an interesting plot line. I was thinking this was going to happen a couple months back, to try and revert a demon back to human. But it does beg a lot of questions namely with the Human Host, what will happen to them if they have to share a body with another human soul instead of the demon. (which has been shown to choose whether or not they want to be in control or let the human "come out" to talk)

I'm looking forward to the Season Finale, but honestly I feel like there's nothing BIG happening, like I'm just waiting for Season 9 already instead of the S8 Finale. It's weird. But I'm pumped nonetheless. I hope Garth and Charlie make an appearance, but most likely not.
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his motovations seem shady indeed, but maybe closing the gates of Heaven and Hell is not so much about keeping things out but about keeping stuff in. So the souls will still have a place to go but the demons & angels will stay put
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Good point about the converted demon. I guess the hope is the demon realized what it did was wrong and leaves the body.

Yeah Metatron's motivation seems shady. I would like to see Mark Pelligrino come back reprising his role as Lucifer. Been rewatching season 5 on TNT and just loving his appearances. The show needs that big bad guy back. Sure Dick was a threat, but I didn't care about the leviatan arc.
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Leviathans are a big mistake!
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yes nothing much expected, unless Cas closes the gates of heavens before gates of hells are! we'll just pay the price;humans :S
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PS: I hated the fact that they killed off the GREAT idea of half angel/half human. I feel like that could've been a good way to kill the "antichrist" child from Season 5 not to mention a great character for next season. But that's really all i could say was bad in this episode.
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I agree, they bring up an interesting character and just kill her off like that? It's like eve all over again. At least in this case she wasn't hyped up from a few episodes ago. I do agree with the author that it seemed kinda forced to make her go crazy in attacking Cass and Metatron back just to justify her death.
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I think the writers of the antichrist storyline didn't meet the writers of the Nephilim... plus, I'm sure they all forgot about that kid
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Besides leaving this obviously super powerful demon alone the theory was broken from the get go. Abaddon is a Hell Knight which Im pretty sure they said means she's a fallen angel NOT a human who was tortured into a demon in Hell.
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Yeah I was thinking the same thing, it was bugging me actually, I remember them saying Abaddon was a fallen angel which means she was never human, I don't understand why the boys would have thought that was a good idea to try the ritual on her.. I think the writers just used this as a plot device to get Abaddon freed to take down Crowly and set her up as next seasons big bad...
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I thought they were the demons like Alistar, Lilith and Azeazel. Lucifer chose them and by molding them himself made them super powerful (which is why Azeazel wasn't bothered by holy water).
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Yeah the Knights of Hell were supposedly hand picked by Lucifer. So they are definitely demons, but the cream of the crop so to speak.
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ProTip
If you're going to run an experimental procedure on a demon that may seal the fate of humanity, maybe don't pick a Hell Knight (or whatever she was). Didn't we learn that she was no ordinary demon, but one of the FIRST demons or a fallen angel or something?

Seriously, you're just asking for trouble. That's like trying to see if anger therapy works by experimenting on Bruce Banner... by kicking him in the nuts. When he starts to turn green, you realize your horrible horrible mistake.
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Metatron is really confusing me in this episode. Last episode he implied that there were serious consequences in closing the Hell gates, even more than the physical toll Sam is going through. And yet he ENCOURAGES Cas to do the Heaven trials so he can close the gates of Heaven. Why? I know that the Angels are dicks in this series, but Metatron's subtle hinting last episode implies that when Hell closes, the people who deserve Hell might not be able to check in, forcing them to just exist as ghosts. Wouldn't closing the doors to Heaven be worse, since Heaven is filled with righteous and good souls? If the evil can't receive their punishment, what happens when the good can't get their reward?

Crowley has proven to be the most effective of all the Big Bads. He doesn't have the raw power that Azazel, Lilith, and Lucifer had, but he arguably knows how the boys operate better than any of those three and knows exactly what can cause the most pain. And better still, he had the courtesy to even tell the boys up front what he was going to do, knowing full well that they couldn't do anything to stop it because he never said HOW he was going to do it. Crowley has no grand plan this season, and that to me is why he's the perfect Big Bad. Instead of looking over his shoulder while performing some sort of end-of-the-world ritual, he has the luxury to sit and plan. It's a total reversal of how the seasons usually go: the WINCHESTERS have a grand plan, and Crowley, instead of finding a way to flat out win, is just looking for ways not to lose.

One other thing that bothers me, though. If Crowley is getting his info from Chuck's books, how did he know about Jenny? Or ANYONE post-season 3, since Chuck finished the book series with Dean going to Hell. Chuck did say in season 5 that he had plans to revive the series, but from what we can tell his work was never published. Did Crowley's demons find Chucks computer? Even if that were the case, it still wouldn't account for everyone Sam and Dean saved during seasons 6 through 8.

Abaddon... I'm taking a wild guess here and saying she's going to be set up as the Big Bad of Season 9, especially looking at the previews. She's obviously pissed that Crowley took over Hell after Lucifer was defeated, and she's at LEAST equal to Alistair in terms of power (since both could withstand Ruby's knife) so my prediction is that Crowley will FINALLY be beaten, but something will happen and Abaddon and her Demon Knights will take his place. I hope those Nazi necromancers have a bigger role next season, too. Season 8 touched BRIEFLY on the Men of Letters, but I want the whole concept expanded, not just added in as a C-plot to Sam and Dean closing Hell and Cas struggling with Naomi's brainwashing. But please PLEASE don't have Abaddon's mission be "spring Lucifer from Hell. We spent 5 seasons more or less doing that, 6 if you cont Raphael's plan.

Also, they should find a way to bring Benny back, and give hm more of a role than just the "get out of Purgatory free" card.
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Some time ago I stated that I had problems taking Crowley seriously. He was often more of a nuisance than a real nemesis. But this particular approach is as evil as it gets.

Abaddon would make for a fairly good Big Bad, indeed. But then I would also have to be constantly reminded of how dumb the plot behind her restoration and escape was in this episode. It's hard to swallow.

And I would definitely like to have Benny back. He's been mistreated and misused so far.
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I'm thinking darker motives a la Crowley last season. I just don't see it ending well.
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Crowley's motives for kidnapping Kevin is pretty simple: He realized that Kevin could read the Leviathan tablet, which contained the only way to beat them. He found the demon tablet, and forced Kevin to read it not because he thought the tablet might contain power beyond his wildest dreams, but because he's worried that the tablet might contain the same type of hidden weakness for demons that the Leviathan tablet contained. When he discovered the existence of the angel tablet, which presumably has all the angel weaknesses in it, he wanted that so h could use it against the angels if they decided to attack him, not to launch an all out war with Heaven. Crowley's motives have pretty much remained unchanged since season 5... just stay alive and in charge. He was sure Lucifer was going to kill him so he teamed up with the Winchesters. When Cas enslaved him, he was more than willing to share Lucifer's Death-binding spell to the Winchesters. He was certain the Leviathan were more powerful than demons, so he attempted to make an alliance with Dick, and when that failed, he teamed up with the Winchesters AGAIN and brought Dick down. And now, with the discovery of weakness-exposing tablets, he wants to make sure no one can know what it says. His ONLY major misstep was in season 6 when he wanted to combine Hell and Purgatory. He learned that gaining ultimate power is overrated, and now all he cares about is making sure no one discovers any weaknesses he doesn't know about so he can still run Hell un-bothered. My proof is when Kevin taunted Crowley saying he has no idea how much more powerful he could become if he knew how to read the tablet, and Crowley just shrugged it off, basically saying "I'm the King of Hell. I don't need any more power. All I want is to know what Sam and Dean are up to so I can stop them."
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I meant Metatron has darker motives. Crowley's always dark.
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"Metatron is really confusing me in this episode. Last episode he implied that there were serious consequences in closing the Hell gates, even more than the physical toll Sam is going through. And yet he ENCOURAGES Cas to do the Heaven trials so he can close the gates of Heaven. Why?"

Yeah, I just don't trust Metatron! I believe he is leading Cas, into some sort of trap by having him close the gates of Heaven. Or I'm pretty sure he knows more than he is letting on. I'm surprised no one else caught that.
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Metatron's actions are definitely fishy. Or it could be bad writing, I just cannot be sure sometimes.
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Ya see. Even Sarah hates Sam's hair. Bring on the clippers.

It was overall a good episode. Largely for bringing back potentially one of the best characters they have had in a couple seasons and that would be Abaddon. However I am not sure their cure would have worked? What myths are they going on, Abaddon in Hebrew myth was an Angel. If she is a fallen angel then their cure wouldn't have worked on her. Demon's are human, so I don't think that would have worked at all. But I am glad she is back. We need some new fun blood in the show.

I am interested to see where they are going to go with all of this.
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Great episode! I laughed so hard when the phone was showing that Crowley was calling from "666".
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" Despite the ominous title of next week's season finale, " Oddly, Arrow and Supernatural both have the same title for their season finales. Although there seems to be some kind of alternate title floating around out there for Arrow.
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yes! i noticed this too. CW might as well entitle next Wednesday, Night of 'Sacrifice'
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Just a canon issue but Jenny was AFTER Carver "vanished" and stopped writing so Crowley couldn't have got her name from the books unless someone else has been writing them.
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Good catch, but did Crowley mention Jenny from the book or was he just talking about her while reading one of the books? I guess the loophole could be that Crowley had some minions find her while the other victims were from season 1.
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Don't forget that Jenny had to do with witches, and witches get their power from demons, and with Crowley the king of hell one would presume he could find out who the Winchesters saved.
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nice!
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I thought we learned that Chuck continued writing after his meeting with the Winchesters. Perhaps they went online, along with the original novels.

Or, perhaps it was a plot hole.
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The last thing chuck wrote was swan song, at the end of season five. He then disappeard, assumingly to heaven, since he was done with his prothet duties. At least that's how I thought it was...
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From what I can tell the books ended at the end of season 5 when Chuck faded away. It's been established that those books are all online. One would assume Chuck saw no reason to change names or actual locations since for the first 4 seasons he thought he was making it up.

I'm surprised enemies of the Winchesters didn't think to go after the people they saved previously.
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What was weird was having Donnelly Rhodes in the episode. Because he was _also_ in Wendigo. But then having him play a totally different character. What was the point of that? They couldn't find another 75 year old actor to play the role?
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I thought that was him, but kept thinking I must be wrong.
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My impression was that once Father Thompson performed the "purification" rite, he fed the demon some of his blood directly, there's the usual "Someone's going to heaven" light show you get when an angel or pure soul leaves a body, and then... poof. The question that Dean asked is what happened to the human host afterward, but with a few exceptions that's always been an issue. A lot of the time the guys perform an exorcism and the human host just... disappears. We dont' know if it's dead, or alive and in therapy.

The purified demon is no longer in the human body or has to share: it's gone on to Heaven.
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I took that light as the purification and that the soul left talking was still the demon, just cleansed. I think they can still do a type of exorcism to get it out of the host, but the question is, are they forgiven and get to go to Heaven, or do they still go to Hell because of all the horrible things they've done.
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that sam and dean moment was insanely dumb: Quick! let's summon a demon and try this new exorcism out. Oh wait. Why do that? We can use one of the most powerful demons left in the world instead of finding a grunt demon. i mean, we only cut apart and buried Abaddon because she was basically unstoppable right? good idea! let's goo! Oh and then let's leave her ALL ALONE to figure a way to get out! Nice!

They did later have crowley say he's not going to let his demons get anywhere near the winchesters, so that could have explained it, but they didn't know that at the time. And not setting a spare demon's trap was inane.

anyways, overall i liked this ep. thought it kept the momentum going from last week. although idk why marv and cass think it's a great idea to CLOSE HEAVEN. that seems so dumb to me i mean how could they possibly think that will end well? Can't wait to see what happens next.
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-That girl that Castiel killed was pretty much innocent. I dunno bout that Boogerton...
-Castiel grocery shopping was pure hilarity.
-Neither. i'm going with season 4 ;)
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The girl got pretty savage when she had to defend herself, though... Kind of giving off a "barely restrained from going berserker" vibe, seguing into "Hi, I'm a berserker."
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I have a new theory and I therefore relinquish my theory that Sam is becoming an angel, it is just simply this whole pure blood thing and Sam is having a hard time because he was right last week, he has a lot more to go through to get pure than just going to confession. So, Crowley was likely a witch or a warlock before he died? Is that perhaps what we are guessing? And Abaddon really seemed outraged that Crowley was in charge, I am guessing just as our boys are at their wits end, she comes to them with a proposal....she will capture Crowley for them, they can do their little ritual on Crowley, and sure they can close the gates, but she will be in charge and there will be a catch (doesn't there seem like there would be one, Metatron doesn't seem to think closing heaven would be for forever), once she gets them in line, she can reopen them. But then, they cure Crowley and realize what Metatron has Cas doing and for shits and giggles, Crowley decides to help them stop the angels. Next season, Abaddon can be our very very fun bad guy, Crowley can be a reluctant helper witch who the Winchesters find suddenly they have to protect from all of demonkind and most of the angels who don't come to call. That will be a lot of fun...also randomly, those I was engaging in mysticism conversations with last week, see, Nephilim, the product of angels and humans. And I totally understand why there could only be the one, they would seem to be exactly the type of super powered people that would totally share the Winchester outlook on, well, everything.
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OMG,you could't be more right in your Dumb Winchester Sighting!!! All through the scene I was thinking the same thing,I mean,come on,even for lesser demons they have used traps and whatnot,but this one was Abaddon and they just left her unguarded?Come on!
I can't even remember Sarah,she happened so long ago that I've erased her completely of my mind,but still,made me feel bad to see her die like that.
Cas.That pic you posted.My angel so sad and brokenhearted :'( I know Dean has very good reasons to be really pissed of with him,but still... Now thaht Cas is doing the Heaven trials, I have the ominous feelings that he is the one to be sacrificed. Bad thing that every season one of them has to die,but by now I think we are all use to it...and if he dies I'll bet he'll go down with Sammy,too. But what the heck,they'll come back anyway.Is what they do.
BTW,I'm feeling strong urges to grab a scissor and get rid of all that hair (sideburns included) once and for all!!!! Sammy w/short hair: cute !
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I have been looking forward to Abaddon's return ever since I saw it in the previews for the episode. I would be very okay if Sam and Dean "cure" Crowley and she becomes the Big Bad for Season 9. VERY. OKAY. WITH. THIS. Because even though Crowley has, admittedly, become a better bad guy this season, come on. Abaddon would take care of business.

And I agree.....WTF with the Heaven trials?? And BIGGER WTF: assuming he's successful, Cas will now do in two episodes what it took Sam and Dean an entire season to accomplish. I realize Cas is an angel and he has Metatron instead of Kevin, but it feels cheap. Like the last two trials for closing the gates of Heaven may as well be "find and pet a puppy" and "give 3 arguments in support of a Friends reunion by 2015".
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I agree, Crowley isn't 'credible' as the bad guy. I liked him better being an anti-hero just saving his own ass. He already had his shot in season 6 and didn't get far. I'd take Abaddon or Naomi [who has some questionable reasons, so to me she's as bad if not worse than Crowley] as the big bad for next season.
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I agree with you, I too like when Crowely, is working with the boys than against them. And I believe Abaddon would make a more Scarier host of hell than Crowely.
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Not really. It took the Winchesters so long because A) Kevin had a hard time translating and B) they're human and roll in an old muscle car.

Cass has the guy who wrote the material with a perfect memory... so he can just say "do this, that, and the other thing" Add in teleportation and being really darn powerful and "bam" Bob's your Uncle.

Though I have my doubts... perhaps Marv isn't really Metatron but a converted angel working for Crowley or something. He did do a big 180 between "be careful what you wish for" with closing hell and "let's close heaven"
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-Yeah, leaving Abaddon unguarded was all time.. I know the writers did it to set up future storylines (it sounded like she doesn't respect Crowley, which could make for an interesting demon rivalry in the future) ,and I like the character, but talk about a dumb Winchester sighting!! I mean, geez....
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